Re: [AI] Battery performance of Angel eBook Reader.

[niranjanraj urs]

Dear Sudhir,
Namasthee.I do not have such complaint. I basically use it for playing
radio and music in mp3.  Better enforce the warranty clause, which is
one year.
Niranjan

On 7/8/10, Sudhir R (NeSTIT)  wrote:
> Good morning, folks...
>
>
>
> I have been using Angel since mid-April this year and I have been
> noticing a gradual reduction of battery  performance over the last 3
> months.
>
>
>
> The charge does not seem to hold for more than 1 hour after a full
> charging of 5 hours, as recommended.  Please note that the gadget is
> mainly used for playing .mp3 files (not music though).
>
>
>
> Appreciate if other users of Angel could share their experiences in this
> regard.  I want to compare notes before taking up with the concerned
> dealer.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> RS
>
> + 98 472 76 126
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[AI] About DAISY

[Silpa Mallipeddi]

Hi Suman / All:

I would like to know about Daisy.

Is there any website or URL from where we can get more info about Daisy Player?

I would also like to know if word, excel, power point, HTML formats
can be accessed with Daisy Players.

I woould like to know any other formats are accessible with Daisy Players.

I would even like to know the keystrokes to use the Daisy Player.

Thanks and regards,
Silpa.

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Re: [AI] Require information related to scanners.

[harikrishnan]

Cannon Lid 100 is pretty accessible with Kurzweil.
With Regards.
Hari.
- Original Message - 
From: "giri prasad" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:49 AM
Subject: [AI] Require information related to scanners.



Dear access Indians,
 one of my friends is planning to purchase a scanner. Please suggest
me any brand and model number that is easy to handle and compatible
with fine reader and kurzweil.

--
WITH REGARDS

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SKYPE  giriprasad.maddina

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[AI] Appoint visually handicapped person who cleared IAS exam'

[pradeep banakar]

Appoint visually handicapped person who cleared IAS exam'
J. Venkatesan
http://thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article505093.ece
New Delhi, July 8, 2010
The Supreme Court on Wednesday came to the rescue of a visually
handicapped person who cleared the 2006 Civil Services examination and
the interview but was denied employment.

It directed the Government of India to appoint him under the
provisions of Persons with Disabilities (Equal Opportunities,
Protection, Rights and Full Participation) Act.

A Bench consisting of Justices Altamas Kabir and Cyriac Joseph
rejected the Centre's contention that since posts for the visually
handicapped had not been identified, no appointment could be provided
to respondent Ravi Prakash Gupta. Mr. Gupta, who is 100 per cent
blind, himself argued the case.

Writing the judgment, Justice Kabir said the fact that the respondent
was eligible for appointment in the civil services after having been
declared successful and placed at Serial No. 5 in the Disabled
Category of the visually impaired candidates could not be denied.

The Centre's contention on implementation of the provisions of Section
33 of the Disabilities Act only after identification of posts suitable
for such appointment “runs counter to the legislative intent with
which the Act was enacted.”

The Bench said that “to accept such a submission would amount to
accepting a situation where the provisions of Section 33 of the Act
could be kept deferred indefinitely by bureaucratic inaction. As has
been pointed out by the High Court, neither Section 32 nor Section 33
makes any distinction with regard to Grade ‘A', ‘B', ‘C' and ‘D'
posts.

They only speak of identification and reservation of posts for people
with disabilities, though the proviso to Section 33 does empower the
appropriate government to exempt any establishment from the provision
of the said Section, having regard to the type of work carried on in
any department or establishment.”

The judges said, “The Legislature never intended the provisions of
Section 32 of the Act to be used as a tool to deny the benefits of
Section 33 to these categories of disabled persons indicated therein.”

In the instant case, the Delhi High Court set aside the orders of the
Central Administrative Tribunal rejecting the relief sought for by Mr.
Gupta. It directed the Centre to grant him appointment as there was
sufficient number of vacancies in which he could be appointed. The
present appeal by the Centre is directed against this order.

The Supreme Court Bench, while declining to interfere with the High
Court order, granted the Centre eight weeks for complying with the
directions.

Disapproving of the Centre's stand, the Bench imposed Rs.20,000 costs
on it to be paid in four weeks.






Bench asks government to give him job under the Disabilities Act
Rejects Centre's contention that Act could be implemented only after
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[AI] Appoint visually handicapped person who cleared IAS exam'

[pradeep banakar]

‘Appoint visually handicapped person who cleared IAS exam'
J. Venkatesan

http://thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/article505093.ece

New Delhi, July 8, 2010
The Supreme Court on Wednesday came to the rescue of a visually
handicapped person who cleared the 2006 Civil Services examination and
the interview but was denied employment.

It directed the Government of India to appoint him under the
provisions of Persons with Disabilities (Equal Opportunities,
Protection, Rights and Full Participation) Act.

A Bench consisting of Justices Altamas Kabir and Cyriac Joseph
rejected the Centre's contention that since posts for the visually
handicapped had not been identified, no appointment could be provided
to respondent Ravi Prakash Gupta. Mr. Gupta, who is 100 per cent
blind, himself argued the case.

Writing the judgment, Justice Kabir said the fact that the respondent
was eligible for appointment in the civil services after having been
declared successful and placed at Serial No. 5 in the Disabled
Category of the visually impaired candidates could not be denied.

The Centre's contention on implementation of the provisions of Section
33 of the Disabilities Act only after identification of posts suitable
for such appointment “runs counter to the legislative intent with
which the Act was enacted.”

The Bench said that “to accept such a submission would amount to
accepting a situation where the provisions of Section 33 of the Act
could be kept deferred indefinitely by bureaucratic inaction. As has
been pointed out by the High Court, neither Section 32 nor Section 33
makes any distinction with regard to Grade ‘A', ‘B', ‘C' and ‘D'
posts.

They only speak of identification and reservation of posts for people
with disabilities, though the proviso to Section 33 does empower the
appropriate government to exempt any establishment from the provision
of the said Section, having regard to the type of work carried on in
any department or establishment.”

The judges said, “The Legislature never intended the provisions of
Section 32 of the Act to be used as a tool to deny the benefits of
Section 33 to these categories of disabled persons indicated therein.”

In the instant case, the Delhi High Court set aside the orders of the
Central Administrative Tribunal rejecting the relief sought for by Mr.
Gupta. It directed the Centre to grant him appointment as there was
sufficient number of vacancies in which he could be appointed. The
present appeal by the Centre is directed against this order.

The Supreme Court Bench, while declining to interfere with the High
Court order, granted the Centre eight weeks for complying with the
directions.

Disapproving of the Centre's stand, the Bench imposed Rs.20,000 costs
on it to be paid in four weeks.






Bench asks government to give him job under the Disabilities Act
Rejects Centre's contention that Act could be implemented only after
identification of posts




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[AI] Receiving 2 copies of each message.

[Sudhir R (NeSTIT)]

Folks,

 

I checked my Access India folder after a long gap today and found that I
am receiving 2 copies of every message for the past several days.

 

Have anybody else encountered this issue ?

 

Appreciate if Moderator could look into this if this is indeed a common
experience.  Otherwise, please let me know what needs to be checked at
my end.  I am receiving the group mails in my corporate email id, which
is  configured on MS Exchange server and I check it using MS Outlook
2003 with automatic routing configured to a personal folder.

 

Thanks and rgds

 

RS

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[AI] Battery performance of Angel eBook Reader.

[Sudhir R (NeSTIT)]

Good morning, folks...

 

I have been using Angel since mid-April this year and I have been
noticing a gradual reduction of battery  performance over the last 3
months.

 

The charge does not seem to hold for more than 1 hour after a full
charging of 5 hours, as recommended.  Please note that the gadget is
mainly used for playing .mp3 files (not music though).

 

Appreciate if other users of Angel could share their experiences in this
regard.  I want to compare notes before taking up with the concerned
dealer.

 

Thanks

 

RS

+ 98 472 76 126 

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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Sathiyaprakash Ramdoss]

 Yes, you are right.  U.S. in general and Texas in particular  having
some  ATM machines that I aware  that has both earphone jacks and
outlet speakers as well. Certainly, we don't like to have our  private
information i.e., bank balance  for public vicinity. However, it is
extremely hard for me to imagine an emergency situation where I am
unable to withdraw money because of not having headphone/ earphone.
Thank You.
On 7/7/10, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan  wrote:
> I guess it takes us back to the extended discussion we had before on
> talking ATM facility. But to clarify certain elements, I used ATM
> facility with and without headphone facilities and I don't see much
> difference. Regular users hardly understand our screen readers anyway
> and the screen actually goes blank as soon as you activate the speech.
> Last but not the least, much like standard screen readers, those
> screen readers allow us to control the speed/volume and henceforth an
> outsider even in a speaker can hardly over-hear you, let alone
> understand your information.
>
> Vetri.
>
> On 07/07/2010, Kiran Kaja  wrote:
>> Before I go further with this thread, let me clarify that I have obviously
>> no information as to why or how SBI require a blind user to opt for a
>> different sort of an ATM card for using speech features. Further, it is
>> also
>> unhealthy to jump to any conclusions with the scant information we have
>> here. So, let us look at this objectively.
>>
>> 1. Logically, this ATM card should not be any different from any other ATM
>> card. It won't be a separate card that only works with certain ATM
>> machines
>> providing a limited set of services.
>>
>> 2. the only difference is that this card will have extra embedded
>> information that tells an ATM that this user may require speech. If that
>> ATM
>> has a speech feature, it will be enabled automatically. If there is no
>> speech capabilities in an ATM, it will just offer the standard interface.
>>
>> 3. you will have to use headphones for speech features anyway. It would be
>> foolish to have your bank balance read out by a loud speaker.
>>
>>
>> 4. the problem with having a switch to enable and disable speech is that
>> regular sighted users who may not know about speech features and may
>> complain that they are unable to use certain features or their interaction
>> is different for whatever reason.
>>
>> 5. If SBI are indeed restricting the functionality of these specialised
>> ATM
>> cards like not enabling them to be used in other machines in a normal way,
>> it is the most idiotic solution and needs to be resolved.
>>
>> So, lets channel our energies in obtaining the right information before we
>> start ranting about how differently we are being treated and all that. I
>> don't think there is any harm in SBI requiring users to obtain a slightly
>> modified card for using accessible ATMs as long as the basic functionality
>> of the card is still available.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kiran
>> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
>> Sathiyaprakash
>> Ramdoss
>> Sent: 07 July 2010 20:11
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>>
>>  I am still having troubles in understanding, why do we need to have
>> an uniquely designed card to enable speech in ATM machines?
>> You can have a small piece of switch to turn on the speakers. If you
>> are really interested in protecting privacy, you can just give them an
>> earphone jack, right?
>> Earphone jacks  would also help individuals with other reading
>> challenges and senior citizens as well, right?
>>
>> On 7/7/10, Kiran Kaja  wrote:
>>> Hi Kanchan,
>>>
>>> It is a shame to say that there is currently no effort in the UK to
>> advocate
>>> for talking ATMs. I am trying  to do some background research and
>> eventually
>>> prepare a business case for my employer to start some efforts in this
>> area.
>>> UK is far ahead in a lot of respects, there is even legislation to make
>>> internet banking sites accessible. But sadly, nothing is being done for
>>> ATMs.
>>>
>>> As part of my research, I am gathering information on how access to ATMs
>> was
>>> improved in North America (the developed country perspective) and other
>>> countries such as India where this effort has just started recently.
>>>
>>> I am also very interested in the case before the CCD. May be that is an
>>> approach that we could follow at some stage in the UK if at all I can get
>>> some people interested in the topic.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Kiran
>>>
>>> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan
>> Pamnani
>>> Sent: 07 July 2010 19:30
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Cc: Sam Tara

Re: [AI] about g.o

[gtm . agrawal]

Hello sir,please contect to n.a.b. Dheli.they have compiled  most of the g. O. 
In format of e. Book on a c.d. That you may have  by payment of rs 15 only. One 
hounrable member of this list  shree partik agarwal has also clected and placed 
a  number of important g.o. On his personal web site.you may also contect him  
for having its link. Gautam agarwal.
-original message-
Subject: Re: [AI] about g.o
From: RAVI SHUKLA 
Date: 07/07/2010 6:44 pm

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> please send to me my mobile number 9884928446 skype id bharathbap email id
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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Jayachandran1977]

Dear list members,

Please dont conclude anything about this.  Because I have not received this 
card till now.  And I have not used this also.


After receiving and using this let me write to you in detail. Because I may 
be wrong.


Jayachandran
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Before I go further with this thread, let me clarify that I have obviously
no information as to why or how SBI require a blind user to opt for a
different sort of an ATM card for using speech features. Further, it is 
also

unhealthy to jump to any conclusions with the scant information we have
here. So, let us look at this objectively.

1. Logically, this ATM card should not be any different from any other ATM
card. It won't be a separate card that only works with certain ATM 
machines

providing a limited set of services.

2. the only difference is that this card will have extra embedded
information that tells an ATM that this user may require speech. If that 
ATM

has a speech feature, it will be enabled automatically. If there is no
speech capabilities in an ATM, it will just offer the standard interface.

3. you will have to use headphones for speech features anyway. It would be
foolish to have your bank balance read out by a loud speaker.


4. the problem with having a switch to enable and disable speech is that
regular sighted users who may not know about speech features and may
complain that they are unable to use certain features or their interaction
is different for whatever reason.

5. If SBI are indeed restricting the functionality of these specialised 
ATM

cards like not enabling them to be used in other machines in a normal way,
it is the most idiotic solution and needs to be resolved.

So, lets channel our energies in obtaining the right information before we
start ranting about how differently we are being treated and all that. I
don't think there is any harm in SBI requiring users to obtain a slightly
modified card for using accessible ATMs as long as the basic functionality
of the card is still available.

Regards,
Kiran
Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sathiyaprakash

Ramdoss
Sent: 07 July 2010 20:11
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

I am still having troubles in understanding, why do we need to have
an uniquely designed card to enable speech in ATM machines?
You can have a small piece of switch to turn on the speakers. If you
are really interested in protecting privacy, you can just give them an
earphone jack, right?
Earphone jacks  would also help individuals with other reading
challenges and senior citizens as well, right?

On 7/7/10, Kiran Kaja  wrote:

Hi Kanchan,

It is a shame to say that there is currently no effort in the UK to

advocate

for talking ATMs. I am trying  to do some background research and

eventually

prepare a business case for my employer to start some efforts in this

area.

UK is far ahead in a lot of respects, there is even legislation to make
internet banking sites accessible. But sadly, nothing is being done for
ATMs.

As part of my research, I am gathering information on how access to ATMs

was

improved in North America (the developed country perspective) and other
countries such as India where this effort has just started recently.

I am also very interested in the case before the CCD. May be that is an
approach that we could follow at some stage in the UK if at all I can get
some people interested in the topic.

Regards,
Kiran

Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan

Pamnani

Sent: 07 July 2010 19:30
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Cc: Sam Taraporevala
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

There is a RBI circular. Will send it tomorrow. SBI has started rolling

out

ATMs. We had tested these machines in Mumbai last year. I am forwarding

your


mails to Dr. Sam at XRCVC  who has been in touch with the SBI.

It started with a case before the Commissioner of Disabilities in 2005.

then


the RBI circular of 2008 and then the other circular of  RBI to banks

asking


them to have 1/3rd talking ATMS. Then last year the testing and reports.

Now


the roll out has started.
They were supposed to be full fledged ATMS which additionally had audio
output.
Now when I read these reports of special cards etc. I am quite surprised.

Please let me know what is your exact interest in this matter and I can
explain better.
Kanchan
- Original Message -
From: "Kiran Kaja" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations i

Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Jayachandran1977]

Hello Kanchanji,

When I approached our Local Head Office for accessing Talking ATM, they take 
down my account no. and told that within a week we will be issuing another 
ATM card to access that Talking ATMs with another PIN no.


I dont know more about that.  I dont know what I have to do with present ATM 
card. Whether I have to surrender it or to destroy it.


Let me write to the group after receiving the new ATM card and using it.

Regards,

Jayachandran
- Original Message - 
From: "Kanchan Pamnani" 

To: 
Cc: "Sam Taraporevala" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India


There is a RBI circular. Will send it tomorrow. SBI has started rolling 
out ATMs. We had tested these machines in Mumbai last year. I am 
forwarding your mails to Dr. Sam at XRCVC  who has been in touch with the 
SBI.


It started with a case before the Commissioner of Disabilities in 2005. 
then the RBI circular of 2008 and then the other circular of  RBI to banks 
asking them to have 1/3rd talking ATMS. Then last year the testing and 
reports. Now the roll out has started.
They were supposed to be full fledged ATMS which additionally had audio 
output.

Now when I read these reports of special cards etc. I am quite surprised.

Please let me know what is your exact interest in this matter and I can 
explain better.

Kanchan
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Hi Jayachandran,

Thanks for replying. Would you be able to find out any details of
installations apart from Chennai? I wonder if SBI have a roadmap for 
talking

ATM installations?

Further, I heard that RBI passed some sort of a directive requiring 30% 
or

so of all banking ATMs to be made accessible? Is there a copy of this?

Regards,
Kiran
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-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Jayachandran1977
Sent: 07 July 2010 01:46
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

Hello Kiran,

This is Jayachandran from Chennai.

Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that 
we

have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same.
Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my visually
impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his
statement it is very user friendly.

Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot 
cash,


cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information please
write.

For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical 
cadre.


Thanks

Jayachandran.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Hi All,

Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in 
India?



I
am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are 
greatly

appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that they
will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't 
suppose

any of them have been installed yet?

Regards,
Kiran
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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Jayachandran1977]

Hello Kiran Sir,

I dont more about other places where the talking ATMs are installed.  And I 
dont have the circular which you have mentioned.


Regards,
Jayachandran.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Hi Jayachandran,

Thanks for replying. Would you be able to find out any details of
installations apart from Chennai? I wonder if SBI have a roadmap for 
talking

ATM installations?

Further, I heard that RBI passed some sort of a directive requiring 30% or
so of all banking ATMs to be made accessible? Is there a copy of this?

Regards,
Kiran
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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Jayachandran1977
Sent: 07 July 2010 01:46
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

Hello Kiran,

This is Jayachandran from Chennai.

Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that we
have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same.
Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my visually
impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his
statement it is very user friendly.

Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot 
cash,


cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information please
write.

For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical 
cadre.


Thanks

Jayachandran.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Hi All,

Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in 
India?



I
am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are 
greatly

appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that they
will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't suppose
any of them have been installed yet?

Regards,
Kiran
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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Jayachandran1977]

Hello Subramani Sir,

3 ATMs around West Mambalm and 2 ATMs near Light House.  In West Mambalam 
one ATM is in Arya Gowda Road.


Let me write to you in detail by tomorrow sir.

Regards,

Jayachandran
- Original Message - 
From: "Subramani L" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



XRCVC had done a test of the ATM machines in Mumbai. While the
configuration of the machines need a little modification or addition,
the cards need nothing on them... This sounds strange. Pl share the
details on the group. Also, let me know which are the ATMs (locations)
in Chennai that  have talking facility. I am on my way to Chennai this
weekend and would like to try.

Subramani





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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Jayachandran1977
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:16 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

Hello Kiran,

This is Jayachandran from Chennai.

Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that
we
have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same.
Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my
visually
impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his

statement it is very user friendly.

Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot
cash,
cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information
please
write.

For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical
cadre.

Thanks

Jayachandran.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Hi All,

Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in

India?

I
am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are

greatly

appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that

they

will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't

suppose

any of them have been installed yet?

Regards,
Kiran
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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Jayachandran1977]

Ok Mahendra
- Original Message - 
From: "mahendra" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



well, rather share on the group, as every one may be intrested.
At 05:54 AM 7/7/2010, you wrote:

Dear Jayachandran Sir,
What is the need of specially designed card?
Audio has to come out from the machine right?
And, why don't normal cards work?
What are the features currently not available to us with this special card 
comparing with normal card?
These are some of the questions on which I request you to share your 
knowledge after exploring the ATM. You may reply me off the list too.

And please include the remaining also if I have not mentioned.
Regards
Amar Jain.
--
From: "Jayachandran1977" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:16 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India


Hello Kiran,

This is Jayachandran from Chennai.

Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that 
we have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same. 
Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my visually 
impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his 
statement it is very user friendly.


Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot 
cash, cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information 
please write.


For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical 
cadre.


Thanks

Jayachandran.
- Original Message - From: "Kiran Kaja" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Hi All,

Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in 
India? I
am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are 
greatly

appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that they
will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't 
suppose

any of them have been installed yet?

Regards,
Kiran
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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Jayachandran1977]

ok Amar.

After receiving the card and using it I will write to you.

Regards,

Jayachandran
- Original Message - 
From: "Amar Jain" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Dear Jayachandran Sir,
What is the need of specially designed card?
Audio has to come out from the machine right?
And, why don't normal cards work?
What are the features currently not available to us with this special card 
comparing with normal card?
These are some of the questions on which I request you to share your 
knowledge after exploring the ATM. You may reply me off the list too.

And please include the remaining also if I have not mentioned.
Regards
Amar Jain.
--
From: "Jayachandran1977" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:16 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India


Hello Kiran,

This is Jayachandran from Chennai.

Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that 
we have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same. 
Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my visually 
impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his 
statement it is very user friendly.


Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot 
cash, cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information 
please write.


For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical 
cadre.


Thanks

Jayachandran.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Hi All,

Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in 
India? I
am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are 
greatly

appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that they
will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't 
suppose

any of them have been installed yet?

Regards,
Kiran
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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

I guess it takes us back to the extended discussion we had before on
talking ATM facility. But to clarify certain elements, I used ATM
facility with and without headphone facilities and I don't see much
difference. Regular users hardly understand our screen readers anyway
and the screen actually goes blank as soon as you activate the speech.
Last but not the least, much like standard screen readers, those
screen readers allow us to control the speed/volume and henceforth an
outsider even in a speaker can hardly over-hear you, let alone
understand your information.

Vetri.

On 07/07/2010, Kiran Kaja  wrote:
> Before I go further with this thread, let me clarify that I have obviously
> no information as to why or how SBI require a blind user to opt for a
> different sort of an ATM card for using speech features. Further, it is also
> unhealthy to jump to any conclusions with the scant information we have
> here. So, let us look at this objectively.
>
> 1. Logically, this ATM card should not be any different from any other ATM
> card. It won't be a separate card that only works with certain ATM machines
> providing a limited set of services.
>
> 2. the only difference is that this card will have extra embedded
> information that tells an ATM that this user may require speech. If that ATM
> has a speech feature, it will be enabled automatically. If there is no
> speech capabilities in an ATM, it will just offer the standard interface.
>
> 3. you will have to use headphones for speech features anyway. It would be
> foolish to have your bank balance read out by a loud speaker.
>
>
> 4. the problem with having a switch to enable and disable speech is that
> regular sighted users who may not know about speech features and may
> complain that they are unable to use certain features or their interaction
> is different for whatever reason.
>
> 5. If SBI are indeed restricting the functionality of these specialised ATM
> cards like not enabling them to be used in other machines in a normal way,
> it is the most idiotic solution and needs to be resolved.
>
> So, lets channel our energies in obtaining the right information before we
> start ranting about how differently we are being treated and all that. I
> don't think there is any harm in SBI requiring users to obtain a slightly
> modified card for using accessible ATMs as long as the basic functionality
> of the card is still available.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
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> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sathiyaprakash
> Ramdoss
> Sent: 07 July 2010 20:11
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>
>  I am still having troubles in understanding, why do we need to have
> an uniquely designed card to enable speech in ATM machines?
> You can have a small piece of switch to turn on the speakers. If you
> are really interested in protecting privacy, you can just give them an
> earphone jack, right?
> Earphone jacks  would also help individuals with other reading
> challenges and senior citizens as well, right?
>
> On 7/7/10, Kiran Kaja  wrote:
>> Hi Kanchan,
>>
>> It is a shame to say that there is currently no effort in the UK to
> advocate
>> for talking ATMs. I am trying  to do some background research and
> eventually
>> prepare a business case for my employer to start some efforts in this
> area.
>> UK is far ahead in a lot of respects, there is even legislation to make
>> internet banking sites accessible. But sadly, nothing is being done for
>> ATMs.
>>
>> As part of my research, I am gathering information on how access to ATMs
> was
>> improved in North America (the developed country perspective) and other
>> countries such as India where this effort has just started recently.
>>
>> I am also very interested in the case before the CCD. May be that is an
>> approach that we could follow at some stage in the UK if at all I can get
>> some people interested in the topic.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kiran
>>
>> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan
> Pamnani
>> Sent: 07 July 2010 19:30
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Cc: Sam Taraporevala
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>>
>> There is a RBI circular. Will send it tomorrow. SBI has started rolling
> out
>> ATMs. We had tested these machines in Mumbai last year. I am forwarding
> your
>>
>> mails to Dr. Sam at XRCVC  who has been in touch with the SBI.
>>
>> It started with a case before the Commissioner of Disabilities in 2005.
> then
>>
>> the RBI circular of 2008 and then the other circular of  RBI to banks
> asking
>>
>> them to have 1/3rd talking ATMS. Then last year the testing and reports.
> Now
>>
>> the roll out has start

Re: [AI] most accessible net banking.

[mahendra]

Hallo Sunil

if you have Icici bank near you, would be great. it is very 
accessable, for doing online transaction,
also if you want to do online share trading, would be very useful- to 
open an account with Icici bank..



At 08:03 PM 7/7/2010, you wrote:

hello list,
am about to open an saving/ demat account, so, i want to know the most
accessible net banking fasility in india.
pleas do suggest me any bank witch provides accessible web interface
for net banking. mostly i will be doing on line tranzactions.
although i know that SBI provide accessible net banking,  but in that
website, we cant make on line tranzactions .
so, a humble  request from you all to help me out for this matter.
please also tell about pnb 'snet banking fasility because its the most
 nearest bank from my home location.

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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Kiran Kaja]

Before I go further with this thread, let me clarify that I have obviously
no information as to why or how SBI require a blind user to opt for a
different sort of an ATM card for using speech features. Further, it is also
unhealthy to jump to any conclusions with the scant information we have
here. So, let us look at this objectively.

1. Logically, this ATM card should not be any different from any other ATM
card. It won't be a separate card that only works with certain ATM machines
providing a limited set of services.

2. the only difference is that this card will have extra embedded
information that tells an ATM that this user may require speech. If that ATM
has a speech feature, it will be enabled automatically. If there is no
speech capabilities in an ATM, it will just offer the standard interface.

3. you will have to use headphones for speech features anyway. It would be
foolish to have your bank balance read out by a loud speaker.


4. the problem with having a switch to enable and disable speech is that
regular sighted users who may not know about speech features and may
complain that they are unable to use certain features or their interaction
is different for whatever reason.

5. If SBI are indeed restricting the functionality of these specialised ATM
cards like not enabling them to be used in other machines in a normal way,
it is the most idiotic solution and needs to be resolved.

So, lets channel our energies in obtaining the right information before we
start ranting about how differently we are being treated and all that. I
don't think there is any harm in SBI requiring users to obtain a slightly
modified card for using accessible ATMs as long as the basic functionality
of the card is still available.

Regards,
Kiran
Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12 
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sathiyaprakash
Ramdoss
Sent: 07 July 2010 20:11
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

 I am still having troubles in understanding, why do we need to have
an uniquely designed card to enable speech in ATM machines?
You can have a small piece of switch to turn on the speakers. If you
are really interested in protecting privacy, you can just give them an
earphone jack, right?
Earphone jacks  would also help individuals with other reading
challenges and senior citizens as well, right?

On 7/7/10, Kiran Kaja  wrote:
> Hi Kanchan,
>
> It is a shame to say that there is currently no effort in the UK to
advocate
> for talking ATMs. I am trying  to do some background research and
eventually
> prepare a business case for my employer to start some efforts in this
area.
> UK is far ahead in a lot of respects, there is even legislation to make
> internet banking sites accessible. But sadly, nothing is being done for
> ATMs.
>
> As part of my research, I am gathering information on how access to ATMs
was
> improved in North America (the developed country perspective) and other
> countries such as India where this effort has just started recently.
>
> I am also very interested in the case before the CCD. May be that is an
> approach that we could follow at some stage in the UK if at all I can get
> some people interested in the topic.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
>
> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan
Pamnani
> Sent: 07 July 2010 19:30
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Cc: Sam Taraporevala
> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>
> There is a RBI circular. Will send it tomorrow. SBI has started rolling
out
> ATMs. We had tested these machines in Mumbai last year. I am forwarding
your
>
> mails to Dr. Sam at XRCVC  who has been in touch with the SBI.
>
> It started with a case before the Commissioner of Disabilities in 2005.
then
>
> the RBI circular of 2008 and then the other circular of  RBI to banks
asking
>
> them to have 1/3rd talking ATMS. Then last year the testing and reports.
Now
>
> the roll out has started.
> They were supposed to be full fledged ATMS which additionally had audio
> output.
> Now when I read these reports of special cards etc. I am quite surprised.
>
> Please let me know what is your exact interest in this matter and I can
> explain better.
> Kanchan
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kiran Kaja" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>
>
>> Hi Jayachandran,
>>
>> Thanks for replying. Would you be able to find out any details of
>> installations apart from Chennai? I wonder if SBI have a roadmap for
>> talking
>> ATM installations?
>>
>> Further, I heard that RBI passed some sort of a directive requiring 30%
or
>> so of all banking ATMs to be made accessible? Is the

Re: [AI] info needed for blue tooth

[Dr. Yogesh Sharma]

Dear Prof. Jassal, I think you must be wanting to transfer your files from the 
computer on to the memory card of your mobile rather than on to the phone 
memory, as the phone memory has a rather limited space. the best way to 
transfer files from computer on to mobile is through memory card reader. You 
can get a decent memory card reader at a cost of merely Rs. 50 to 70 from any 
shop dealing in simple electronics or mobile accessories. All you have to do is 
to pull out your memory card from the handset and plug it in to the appropriate 
slot available in the card reader. The card reader has to be plugged in to the 
U S B port of your system. If everything falls in perfect place, you 
immediately hear a message from JAWS stating various options available as to 
what you want to do with the card. You can just proceed on  as you like. Hope 
it helps.
Regards,
 Yours, Yogesh Sharma.
e mail: yogesh.sharma...@gmail.com

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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

special ATM card certainly sounds strange to me as well. There are
several ways of making an ATM speech to be activated rather than
issuing a restricted ATM card. Another example of token accesibility
in Indian public sector. Why don't they learn lesson within India
itself? As I understand, the ICICI issues regular bank card for
everyone and one can use it in speech enabled ATMS without much
trouble.

Vetri.

On 07/07/2010, Kiran Kaja  wrote:
> Hi Kanchan,
>
> It is a shame to say that there is currently no effort in the UK to advocate
> for talking ATMs. I am trying  to do some background research and eventually
> prepare a business case for my employer to start some efforts in this area.
> UK is far ahead in a lot of respects, there is even legislation to make
> internet banking sites accessible. But sadly, nothing is being done for
> ATMs.
>
> As part of my research, I am gathering information on how access to ATMs was
> improved in North America (the developed country perspective) and other
> countries such as India where this effort has just started recently.
>
> I am also very interested in the case before the CCD. May be that is an
> approach that we could follow at some stage in the UK if at all I can get
> some people interested in the topic.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
>
> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
> Sent: 07 July 2010 19:30
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Cc: Sam Taraporevala
> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>
> There is a RBI circular. Will send it tomorrow. SBI has started rolling out
> ATMs. We had tested these machines in Mumbai last year. I am forwarding your
>
> mails to Dr. Sam at XRCVC  who has been in touch with the SBI.
>
> It started with a case before the Commissioner of Disabilities in 2005. then
>
> the RBI circular of 2008 and then the other circular of  RBI to banks asking
>
> them to have 1/3rd talking ATMS. Then last year the testing and reports. Now
>
> the roll out has started.
> They were supposed to be full fledged ATMS which additionally had audio
> output.
> Now when I read these reports of special cards etc. I am quite surprised.
>
> Please let me know what is your exact interest in this matter and I can
> explain better.
> Kanchan
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kiran Kaja" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>
>
>> Hi Jayachandran,
>>
>> Thanks for replying. Would you be able to find out any details of
>> installations apart from Chennai? I wonder if SBI have a roadmap for
>> talking
>> ATM installations?
>>
>> Further, I heard that RBI passed some sort of a directive requiring 30% or
>> so of all banking ATMs to be made accessible? Is there a copy of this?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kiran
>> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
>> Jayachandran1977
>> Sent: 07 July 2010 01:46
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>>
>> Hello Kiran,
>>
>> This is Jayachandran from Chennai.
>>
>> Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that we
>> have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same.
>> Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my visually
>> impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his
>> statement it is very user friendly.
>>
>> Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot
>> cash,
>>
>> cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information please
>> write.
>>
>> For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical
>> cadre.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jayachandran.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kiran Kaja" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
>> Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>>
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in
>>> India?
>>
>>> I
>>> am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are
>>> greatly
>>> appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that they
>>> will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't suppose
>>> any of them have been installed yet?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Kiran
>>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with
>>> disability bill at:
>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm
>>>
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>>> with the subject unsubscribe.
>>>
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>>> please visit the list home page at
>>>
>>> http://accessindi

Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Sathiyaprakash Ramdoss]

 I am still having troubles in understanding, why do we need to have
an uniquely designed card to enable speech in ATM machines?
You can have a small piece of switch to turn on the speakers. If you
are really interested in protecting privacy, you can just give them an
earphone jack, right?
Earphone jacks  would also help individuals with other reading
challenges and senior citizens as well, right?

On 7/7/10, Kiran Kaja  wrote:
> Hi Kanchan,
>
> It is a shame to say that there is currently no effort in the UK to advocate
> for talking ATMs. I am trying  to do some background research and eventually
> prepare a business case for my employer to start some efforts in this area.
> UK is far ahead in a lot of respects, there is even legislation to make
> internet banking sites accessible. But sadly, nothing is being done for
> ATMs.
>
> As part of my research, I am gathering information on how access to ATMs was
> improved in North America (the developed country perspective) and other
> countries such as India where this effort has just started recently.
>
> I am also very interested in the case before the CCD. May be that is an
> approach that we could follow at some stage in the UK if at all I can get
> some people interested in the topic.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
>
> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
> Sent: 07 July 2010 19:30
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Cc: Sam Taraporevala
> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>
> There is a RBI circular. Will send it tomorrow. SBI has started rolling out
> ATMs. We had tested these machines in Mumbai last year. I am forwarding your
>
> mails to Dr. Sam at XRCVC  who has been in touch with the SBI.
>
> It started with a case before the Commissioner of Disabilities in 2005. then
>
> the RBI circular of 2008 and then the other circular of  RBI to banks asking
>
> them to have 1/3rd talking ATMS. Then last year the testing and reports. Now
>
> the roll out has started.
> They were supposed to be full fledged ATMS which additionally had audio
> output.
> Now when I read these reports of special cards etc. I am quite surprised.
>
> Please let me know what is your exact interest in this matter and I can
> explain better.
> Kanchan
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kiran Kaja" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>
>
>> Hi Jayachandran,
>>
>> Thanks for replying. Would you be able to find out any details of
>> installations apart from Chennai? I wonder if SBI have a roadmap for
>> talking
>> ATM installations?
>>
>> Further, I heard that RBI passed some sort of a directive requiring 30% or
>> so of all banking ATMs to be made accessible? Is there a copy of this?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kiran
>> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
>> Jayachandran1977
>> Sent: 07 July 2010 01:46
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>>
>> Hello Kiran,
>>
>> This is Jayachandran from Chennai.
>>
>> Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that we
>> have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same.
>> Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my visually
>> impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his
>> statement it is very user friendly.
>>
>> Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot
>> cash,
>>
>> cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information please
>> write.
>>
>> For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical
>> cadre.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jayachandran.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Kiran Kaja" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
>> Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>>
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in
>>> India?
>>
>>> I
>>> am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are
>>> greatly
>>> appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that they
>>> will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't suppose
>>> any of them have been installed yet?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Kiran
>>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with
>>> disability bill at:
>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm
>>>
>>> To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
>>> with the subject unsubscribe.
>>>
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>>> please visit the list home page at
>>>
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[AI] most accessible net banking.

[sunil]

hello list,
am about to open an saving/ demat account, so, i want to know the most
accessible net banking fasility in india.
pleas do suggest me any bank witch provides accessible web interface
for net banking. mostly i will be doing on line tranzactions.
although i know that SBI provide accessible net banking,  but in that
website, we cant make on line tranzactions .
so, a humble  request from you all to help me out for this matter.
please also tell about pnb 'snet banking fasility because its the most
 nearest bank from my home location.

-- 
"Woods are dark and deep,
I have promises to keep,
And I have miles to go before I sleep."
sunil sangtani

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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Kiran Kaja]

Hi Kanchan,

It is a shame to say that there is currently no effort in the UK to advocate
for talking ATMs. I am trying  to do some background research and eventually
prepare a business case for my employer to start some efforts in this area.
UK is far ahead in a lot of respects, there is even legislation to make
internet banking sites accessible. But sadly, nothing is being done for
ATMs.

As part of my research, I am gathering information on how access to ATMs was
improved in North America (the developed country perspective) and other
countries such as India where this effort has just started recently. 

I am also very interested in the case before the CCD. May be that is an
approach that we could follow at some stage in the UK if at all I can get
some people interested in the topic.

Regards,
Kiran

Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12 
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: 07 July 2010 19:30
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Cc: Sam Taraporevala
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

There is a RBI circular. Will send it tomorrow. SBI has started rolling out 
ATMs. We had tested these machines in Mumbai last year. I am forwarding your

mails to Dr. Sam at XRCVC  who has been in touch with the SBI.

It started with a case before the Commissioner of Disabilities in 2005. then

the RBI circular of 2008 and then the other circular of  RBI to banks asking

them to have 1/3rd talking ATMS. Then last year the testing and reports. Now

the roll out has started.
They were supposed to be full fledged ATMS which additionally had audio 
output.
Now when I read these reports of special cards etc. I am quite surprised.

Please let me know what is your exact interest in this matter and I can 
explain better.
Kanchan
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India


> Hi Jayachandran,
>
> Thanks for replying. Would you be able to find out any details of
> installations apart from Chennai? I wonder if SBI have a roadmap for 
> talking
> ATM installations?
>
> Further, I heard that RBI passed some sort of a directive requiring 30% or
> so of all banking ATMs to be made accessible? Is there a copy of this?
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
> Jayachandran1977
> Sent: 07 July 2010 01:46
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>
> Hello Kiran,
>
> This is Jayachandran from Chennai.
>
> Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that we
> have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same.
> Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my visually
> impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his
> statement it is very user friendly.
>
> Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot 
> cash,
>
> cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information please
> write.
>
> For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical 
> cadre.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jayachandran.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kiran Kaja" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
> Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in 
>> India?
>
>> I
>> am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are 
>> greatly
>> appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that they
>> will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't suppose
>> any of them have been installed yet?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kiran
>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with
>> disability bill at:
>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm
>>
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>> with the subject unsubscribe.
>>
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>> please visit the list home page at
>> 
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>
>
>
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> disability bill at:
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[AI] info needed for blue tooth

[Ashwani Jassal]

Hi friends 

A few days back somebody has mentioned about windows mobile centre which
would enhance blue tooth quality. I need more info for this software and
where should I get it from? I  have problems in transferring files from my
pc to my phone wiya Bluetooth so any help in this direction will be
appreciable.

 

Ashwani Jassal 

Assistant Professor department of Political Science 

Shyamlal College(E) University of Delhi

Mobile:9958481481/9013244122

E  Mail:ashwanijas...@slce.in /ashwanijas...@gmail.com 

Skype ID: ashwani.phd 

 

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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Kanchan Pamnani]

There is a RBI circular. Will send it tomorrow. SBI has started rolling out 
ATMs. We had tested these machines in Mumbai last year. I am forwarding your 
mails to Dr. Sam at XRCVC  who has been in touch with the SBI.


It started with a case before the Commissioner of Disabilities in 2005. then 
the RBI circular of 2008 and then the other circular of  RBI to banks asking 
them to have 1/3rd talking ATMS. Then last year the testing and reports. Now 
the roll out has started.
They were supposed to be full fledged ATMS which additionally had audio 
output.

Now when I read these reports of special cards etc. I am quite surprised.

Please let me know what is your exact interest in this matter and I can 
explain better.

Kanchan
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Hi Jayachandran,

Thanks for replying. Would you be able to find out any details of
installations apart from Chennai? I wonder if SBI have a roadmap for 
talking

ATM installations?

Further, I heard that RBI passed some sort of a directive requiring 30% or
so of all banking ATMs to be made accessible? Is there a copy of this?

Regards,
Kiran
Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Jayachandran1977
Sent: 07 July 2010 01:46
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

Hello Kiran,

This is Jayachandran from Chennai.

Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that we
have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same.
Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my visually
impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his
statement it is very user friendly.

Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot 
cash,


cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information please
write.

For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical 
cadre.


Thanks

Jayachandran.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Hi All,

Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in 
India?



I
am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are 
greatly

appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that they
will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't suppose
any of them have been installed yet?

Regards,
Kiran
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Re: [AI] Delhi High Court on relaxation

[Kanchan Pamnani]

thank you very much. Though the judgement was decided against the disabled 
there are several points the Drafting committee will have to look at.


Kanchan
- Original Message - 
From: "akhilesh" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Delhi High Court on relaxation


Hello mam,
If I'm getting it correct, the following download links will suffice the 
need.


http://lobis.nic.in/dhc/BDA/judgement/06-07-2010/BDA06072010CW87502009.pdf

http://lobis.nic.in/dhc/BDA/judgement/06-07-2010/BDA06072010CW67592008.pdf

http://lobis.nic.in/dhc/BDA/judgement/06-07-2010/BDA06072010CW13522008.pdf
regards,
Akhilesh.

On 7/7/10, Pamnani  wrote:
This is an interesting judgement. Please will someone email the entire 
text

of the judgement .

Thanks
Kanchan


http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Daily/skins/TOINEW/navigator.asp?Daily=TOIM&showST=true&login=default&pub=TOI

its on toi page 13 today

Treat disabled on a par with SC/STs: HC




New Delhi: The Delhi HC on Tuesday said a physicallychallenged person 
should

be treated on a par with SC/ST candidates, while relaxing qualifying marks
for admission in professional courses.
   The HC asked the government to consider the recommendations of the 
chief

commissioner for disabilities who had directed all governmentaided
institutions to extend the relaxed norms to physically-disabled candidates
to bring them on a par with SC/ST candidates.
   However, the bench refused relief to a handicapped student who had 
sought
such relaxation for admission to a medical college, saying there is no 
such

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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[padmanabham]

yes that may be correct.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



The idea behind a separate ATM/debit card may perhaps be to make it more
convenient for blind users. As soon as you insert the card, the software
detects that you need speech and enables the speech option automatically. 
I

can't think of any other reason why they require a separate card for blind
users.

Regards,
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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: 07 July 2010 14:03
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

XRCVC had done a test of the ATM machines in Mumbai. While the
configuration of the machines need a little modification or addition,
the cards need nothing on them... This sounds strange. Pl share the
details on the group. Also, let me know which are the ATMs (locations)
in Chennai that  have talking facility. I am on my way to Chennai this
weekend and would like to try.

Subramani





-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Jayachandran1977
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:16 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

Hello Kiran,

This is Jayachandran from Chennai.

Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that
we
have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same.
Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my
visually
impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his

statement it is very user friendly.

Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot
cash,
cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information
please
write.

For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical
cadre.

Thanks

Jayachandran.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Hi All,

Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in

India?

I
am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are

greatly

appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that

they

will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't

suppose

any of them have been installed yet?

Regards,
Kiran
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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Kiran Kaja]

Hi Jayachandran,

Thanks for replying. Would you be able to find out any details of
installations apart from Chennai? I wonder if SBI have a roadmap for talking
ATM installations?

Further, I heard that RBI passed some sort of a directive requiring 30% or
so of all banking ATMs to be made accessible? Is there a copy of this?

Regards,
Kiran
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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Jayachandran1977
Sent: 07 July 2010 01:46
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

Hello Kiran,

This is Jayachandran from Chennai.

Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that we 
have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same. 
Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my visually 
impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his 
statement it is very user friendly.

Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot cash,

cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information please 
write.

For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical cadre.

Thanks

Jayachandran.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India


> Hi All,
>
> Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in India?

> I
> am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are greatly
> appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that they
> will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't suppose
> any of them have been installed yet?
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
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Re: [AI] Induction Cooker

[harish]

Dear Vaishnavi

Thanks so much for the investigation. This should indeed be a wonderful 
device for the blind and a good candidate for nomination for the NCPEDP 
design award.


It would certainly be out of the blue recognition to them, folks at Chennai 
need to check on its accessibility and nominate it accordingly.


When main stream products take the extra step in accessibility we should 
reward the effort enthusiastically.


I would also urge our members to support this product in their own little 
ways.


Harish.

- Original Message - 
From: "V. Jayakumar" 

To: 
Cc: "Senthil Kumar" ; ; 


Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Induction Cooker


Dear Harish,

I deserve the needle in the haystack award for this find! There is a talking
induction cooker already available for Rs 3000. Made by a Chennai
export-oriented company called Shadows Ltronix - they are open to adapting
and customizing their unit range to suit specific needs -so this particular
model SLS-2030 can be tweaked further! Details via links at eom.

Strangely, models available abroad advertising accessibility seem to use
tactile features only, though talking microwaves, kettles etc are easily
available.  For eg this model from
http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=201106 : This 12"
square cooktop only heats when a pan made of stainless steel, enamelware or
iron meets the surface which makes it safe to touch without getting burned.
You can cook and warm foods almost as quickly as with a gas stove adjusting
the settings from 120 to 420 degrees. There are 3 temperature settings,
L/M/H for keeping foods warm and a 99 minute timer. The unit has an auto
shut-off and overheat protection functions. The control panel can be
tactually marked making it accessible as well as safe, fast and energy
efficient. This item includes a covered frypan.

Since you've already figured the accessible blog for AI, perhaps you could
start an AI Accessible Tech blog (Called @ India!) with consumer feedback
and reviews from Indian disabled community. The AI group is very tech-savvy
- this knowledge should be shared with the outside world, don't you think?
For eg, this link explains the accessible induction cooker safety features
across models is a very simple, readable way:
http://www.fredshead.info/2006/09/using-flat-cooktop-stove.html


Hope this helps! Links follow*...
*
Vaishnavi*

ACCESSIBLE PRODUCT REFERENCE LINKS FOR FURTHER CUSTOMISATION
*http://www.accessible-devices.com/appliances.html<%20http://www.shadowsltronix.com/pcat-docs/2030.pdf>
http://www.accessible-devices.com/SaferCooking.html
http://www.accessible-devices.com/cooktop.html
http://www.accessible-devices.com/kitchen.html
*
LINKS: TALKING INDUCTION COOKER SLS-2030*
Product Leaflet (Inaccessible Image
Pdf)<%20http://www.shadowsltronix.com/pcat-docs/2030.pdf>
Shadows Ltronix Chennai Contacts 
*
SLS 2030*
# Power : 2000 Watts, Power Range 200W – 2000W
# Temperature range: 60C-280C, 5 modes of cooking
# 24Hrs booking function, booking function for auto On & Off
# Quick cooking, consumes less power & time
# Non fire cooking no smoke, high heat efficiency and no radiation
# Smooth surface and easy to clean

*Found this model after seeing image in classifieds ad below!
*Home appliances for sales. Talking Induction Cooker for sale in Chennai.
06-Jul-2010   |   Tamil Nadu » Chennai

TALKING INDUCTION COOKER SLS-2030 - Rs. 2999
For More Information about Induction cooker contact Raji Chandran:
Mobile: 9841828875 / 9841828879
Email: craj...@gmail.com


--
On 7 July 2010 00:30,  wrote:




On 7/6/10, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Hello All
>
> I just heard about this induction cooker. I am told it is available in
our
> Indian market for Rs. 1,700 upwards.
>
> I suppose it is well suited to the blind and there is good scope to make
it
> talking as well.
>
> Anyone using it? Please share your experience.
> For more: 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_cooker\

>
> Harish Kotian
>

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Re: [AI] Problem with System Time

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Not necessarily. When you click date and time, there are several tabs
and get to the internet time tab. There is a checkbox to disable the
automatic time syncrenisation and generally it should fix your
problem.

Vetri.

On 07/07/2010, Surinder  wrote:
> Mother board battery needs a replacement.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "jagadeshwari kumari" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:49 PM
> Subject: [AI] Problem with System Time
>
>
>> Hello friends, my system time is slowing down automatically once in
>> every 5-10 days. What might be the problem? Please find the solution
>> for it.
>>
>> --
>> Mob: 9900250122
>> Res: 080-23236014
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Re: [AI] Multi Media Software Available For Downloading

[padmanabham]

not necessary Dr. ji has to delit other files from his public link of 
dropbox.
- Original Message - 
From: "giri prasad" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Multi Media Software Available For Downloading


Sir even I tried to download the same but couldn't. I got 
message"Dropbox - 509

Oops! (509)
This account's public links are generating too much traffic and have
been temporarily disabled!"

It would be better if you can upload in smaller parts.

On 05/07/2010, Rakesh Kumar Gupta  wrote:

I have downloaded successfully the same from this link.
Regards,
- Original Message -
From: "Anuj Verma" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Multi Media Software Available For Downloading


Hi, This link is not working.

Dr. A.K. Verma

--- On Sun, 4/7/10, Dr. Yogesh Sharma  wrote:


From: Dr. Yogesh Sharma 
Subject: [AI] Multi Media Software Available For Downloading
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Date: Sunday, 4 July, 2010, 3:09 PM


Hi dear friends! How are you? I have uploaded some very useful multi 
media

software on dropbox. All interested friends are most welcome to download,
unzip and install them and experiment with them. They will be there for 
the
next week. I would await your valuable feedback and comments on my 
personal

e mail i d in order to avoid traffic on the list. The download link is as
under:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8048484/Multi-Media%20Softwares.zip

With best regards,
Yours sincerely, Yogesh.
e mail: yogesh.sharma...@gmail.com

Mobile: 099882893833.

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Re: [AI] emergency talks users response to me

[Gaurav sharma]

hello talks works with  only symbian phones so you can not instal
talks  on2700. with love gaurav

On 7/7/10, mahesh  wrote:
> my friend by  nokia 2700 mobile in shop  few months back.
> now he want instal the talking software in it?
> it is posible?
> tel me please it is very important.
>
> thanks in advance
>
> skype
> maheshswis
> email
> maheshs...@gmail.com
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Re: [AI] Induction Cooker

[V. Jayakumar]

Dear Harish,

I deserve the needle in the haystack award for this find! There is a talking
induction cooker already available for Rs 3000. Made by a Chennai
export-oriented company called Shadows Ltronix - they are open to adapting
and customizing their unit range to suit specific needs -so this particular
model SLS-2030 can be tweaked further! Details via links at eom.

Strangely, models available abroad advertising accessibility seem to use
tactile features only, though talking microwaves, kettles etc are easily
available.  For eg this model from
http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=201106 : This 12"
square cooktop only heats when a pan made of stainless steel, enamelware or
iron meets the surface which makes it safe to touch without getting burned.
You can cook and warm foods almost as quickly as with a gas stove adjusting
the settings from 120 to 420 degrees. There are 3 temperature settings,
L/M/H for keeping foods warm and a 99 minute timer. The unit has an auto
shut-off and overheat protection functions. The control panel can be
tactually marked making it accessible as well as safe, fast and energy
efficient. This item includes a covered frypan.

Since you've already figured the accessible blog for AI, perhaps you could
start an AI Accessible Tech blog (Called @ India!) with consumer feedback
and reviews from Indian disabled community. The AI group is very tech-savvy
- this knowledge should be shared with the outside world, don't you think?
For eg, this link explains the accessible induction cooker safety features
across models is a very simple, readable way:
http://www.fredshead.info/2006/09/using-flat-cooktop-stove.html


Hope this helps! Links follow*...
*
Vaishnavi*

ACCESSIBLE PRODUCT REFERENCE LINKS FOR FURTHER CUSTOMISATION
*http://www.accessible-devices.com/appliances.html<%20http://www.shadowsltronix.com/pcat-docs/2030.pdf>
http://www.accessible-devices.com/SaferCooking.html
http://www.accessible-devices.com/cooktop.html
http://www.accessible-devices.com/kitchen.html
*
LINKS: TALKING INDUCTION COOKER SLS-2030*
Product Leaflet (Inaccessible Image
Pdf)<%20http://www.shadowsltronix.com/pcat-docs/2030.pdf>
Shadows Ltronix Chennai Contacts 
*
SLS 2030*
# Power : 2000 Watts, Power Range 200W – 2000W
# Temperature range: 60C-280C, 5 modes of cooking
# 24Hrs booking function, booking function for auto On & Off
# Quick cooking, consumes less power & time
# Non fire cooking no smoke, high heat efficiency and no radiation
# Smooth surface and easy to clean

*Found this model after seeing image in classifieds ad below!
*Home appliances for sales. Talking Induction Cooker for sale in Chennai.
06-Jul-2010   |   Tamil Nadu » Chennai

TALKING INDUCTION COOKER SLS-2030 - Rs. 2999
For More Information about Induction cooker contact Raji Chandran:
Mobile: 9841828875 / 9841828879
Email: craj...@gmail.com


--
On 7 July 2010 00:30,  wrote:

>
>
> On 7/6/10, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> > Hello All
> >
> > I just heard about this induction cooker. I am told it is available in
> our
> > Indian market for Rs. 1,700 upwards.
> >
> > I suppose it is well suited to the blind and there is good scope to make
> it
> > talking as well.
> >
> > Anyone using it? Please share your experience.
> > For more: 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_cooker\
> >
> > Harish Kotian
> >
>
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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Amar Jain]

Respected Sir,
in that case, why does it not accept the normal debit card?
Regards
Amar Jain.
--
From: "Kiran Kaja" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:49 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India


The idea behind a separate ATM/debit card may perhaps be to make it more
convenient for blind users. As soon as you insert the card, the software
detects that you need speech and enables the speech option automatically. 
I

can't think of any other reason why they require a separate card for blind
users.

Regards,
Kiran
Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: 07 July 2010 14:03
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

XRCVC had done a test of the ATM machines in Mumbai. While the
configuration of the machines need a little modification or addition,
the cards need nothing on them... This sounds strange. Pl share the
details on the group. Also, let me know which are the ATMs (locations)
in Chennai that  have talking facility. I am on my way to Chennai this
weekend and would like to try.

Subramani





-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Jayachandran1977
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:16 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

Hello Kiran,

This is Jayachandran from Chennai.

Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that
we
have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same.
Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my
visually
impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his

statement it is very user friendly.

Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot
cash,
cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information
please
write.

For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical
cadre.

Thanks

Jayachandran.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Hi All,

Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in

India?

I
am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are

greatly

appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that

they

will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't

suppose

any of them have been installed yet?

Regards,
Kiran
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Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

[Manish Agrawal]

Letters are located in a qwerty layout as if on a regular keyboard on the
iphone screen. With a little practice, you'll get faster at locating them.
However, I still think it is slower than a tactile keypad.

-Manish
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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:36 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

Hai Vetri: 

Just out of curiosity, I tried typing messages using VoiceOver. The
first difficulty is locating the keys. The order in which the letters
are located isn't very clear and lack of a tactile key is definitely
making learning slower. However, do you think it would take long for
someone to learn it? 

Subramani 



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam
Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:52 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

The point about I-phone 3g is correct and that's universal since they
don't have voiceover feature. You can access almost everything with
voiceover on 3gs. There could be some difficulties until you get used
to the touch screen interface, but that's about it. As I mentioned
before, typing could be a bit slow, but it should be possible to input
short messages with the touch screen interface. Much like other screen
readers, there is an in-build help is available to learn the screen
navigation with voiceover.

Vetri.

On 01/07/2010, Kiran Kaja  wrote:
> Let me try and clarify a few points here:
>
> 1. iPhone 3G (which is still available in India) is not accessible at
all.
> So, just forget about.
>
> 2. iPhone 3GS is also available in India and it has VoiceOver and Zoom
> functionality. VoiceOver is a full-fledged screen reader and provides
access
> to most of the built-in apps and third-party apps. It does not provide
> limited access.
>
> 3. As far as I am aware, SayText may only work with the new iPhone 4
and not
> with any other models. I may be wrong but I don't thing the camera on
the
> 3GS and 3G is sufficient for OCR.
>
> Look at www.maccessibility.net for reviews of the iPhone 3GS.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
> Chakravarthula
> Sent: 01 July 2010 17:16
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS
>
> Subramani:
>
> This may perhaps help you -
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html
>
> I remember seeing a detailed review by Victor Tsaran, but don't have
the
> link right now. You may search on Twitter.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani
L
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:03 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS
>
> Folks:
>
> Am just about to check out Say Text and do a small review cum report
for
> my newspaper. However, am told that Voice Over is not fully functional
> on iPhone 3GS.
>
> 1.Is it true that VoiceOver works only to get some contacts and
> operate music in iPhone 3Gs bought in India?
> 2. If not, pl let me know how best I or anyone buying iPhone 3GS
> in India can make the best use of VoiceOver and by extension Say Text.
> Quick response is appreciated since I need to do it faster.
>
> Subramani
>
>
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Re: [AI] assigning JAWS to read bold later.

[Raju Singhq]

Hello ramesh JEE!

there are many ways to assign bold voice. but one of the symple and easyest 
way is,


for example, if you are in word, or in any other application, run JAWS 
manager with Insert+f2.


hit C until JAWS says configuration manager. and then press enter. now press 
alt+S to open set option menu. and press M to open speech and sound 
manager...

now by pressing up/down arrow, press enter on proof reading (attribute)
and press ctrl+s to save your changes. and close configuration manager by 
pressing alt+f4.


now you are done! 



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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Srinivasu Chakravarthula]

If that's the case, it is an excellent thought. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kiran Kaja
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:50 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

The idea behind a separate ATM/debit card may perhaps be to make it more
convenient for blind users. As soon as you insert the card, the software
detects that you need speech and enables the speech option automatically. I
can't think of any other reason why they require a separate card for blind
users.

Regards,
Kiran
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-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: 07 July 2010 14:03
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

XRCVC had done a test of the ATM machines in Mumbai. While the
configuration of the machines need a little modification or addition,
the cards need nothing on them... This sounds strange. Pl share the
details on the group. Also, let me know which are the ATMs (locations)
in Chennai that  have talking facility. I am on my way to Chennai this
weekend and would like to try. 

Subramani 





-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Jayachandran1977
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:16 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

Hello Kiran,

This is Jayachandran from Chennai.

Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that
we 
have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same. 
Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my
visually 
impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his

statement it is very user friendly.

Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot
cash, 
cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information
please 
write.

For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical
cadre.

Thanks

Jayachandran.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India


> Hi All,
>
> Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in
India? 
> I
> am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are
greatly
> appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that
they
> will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't
suppose
> any of them have been installed yet?
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
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> disability bill at:
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Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

[Srinivasu Chakravarthula]

Hi Kiran,

Yes, BSNL and MTNL has 3G in some cities including, Bangalore, Hyderabad,
Delhi as far as I know, maybe, it's available in other cities too, not sure
though.

My experience so far with BSNL 3G in Bangalore is very good, it gives very
good connectivity. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kiran Kaja
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:47 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

There is Dragon Dictation app which funnily enough, works only in the US for
now. There is also Vlingo which is not that accurate. With all these tools
though, the voice recognition actually happens on the server side. So, you
need a decent data connection to make any realistic use of them.

Same goes for Google Voice on Android.

Any idea when the 3G networks will be up and running in India? I heard
BSNL/MTNL already have 3G in some cities. Anyone used it?

Regards,
Kiran
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-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: 07 July 2010 14:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

Looks like there is a third party app for that, but couldn't test it on
account of my limited time to test the phone. 

Subramani 

 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
Chakravarthula
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:44 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

Subramani, Vetri,

Out of curiosity, does iPhone 3Gs has dictation capabilities so that we
may
not need to key in the text?
Thanks,
Vasu

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:36 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

Hai Vetri: 

Just out of curiosity, I tried typing messages using VoiceOver. The
first difficulty is locating the keys. The order in which the letters
are located isn't very clear and lack of a tactile key is definitely
making learning slower. However, do you think it would take long for
someone to learn it? 

Subramani 



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam
Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:52 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

The point about I-phone 3g is correct and that's universal since they
don't have voiceover feature. You can access almost everything with
voiceover on 3gs. There could be some difficulties until you get used
to the touch screen interface, but that's about it. As I mentioned
before, typing could be a bit slow, but it should be possible to input
short messages with the touch screen interface. Much like other screen
readers, there is an in-build help is available to learn the screen
navigation with voiceover.

Vetri.

On 01/07/2010, Kiran Kaja  wrote:
> Let me try and clarify a few points here:
>
> 1. iPhone 3G (which is still available in India) is not accessible at
all.
> So, just forget about.
>
> 2. iPhone 3GS is also available in India and it has VoiceOver and Zoom
> functionality. VoiceOver is a full-fledged screen reader and provides
access
> to most of the built-in apps and third-party apps. It does not provide
> limited access.
>
> 3. As far as I am aware, SayText may only work with the new iPhone 4
and not
> with any other models. I may be wrong but I don't thing the camera on
the
> 3GS and 3G is sufficient for OCR.
>
> Look at www.maccessibility.net for reviews of the iPhone 3GS.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
> Chakravarthula
> Sent: 01 July 2010 17:16
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS
>
> Subramani:
>
> This may perhaps help you -
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html
>
> I remember seeing a detailed review by Victor Tsaran, but don't have
the
> link right now. You may search on Twitter.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani
L
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:03 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS
>
> Folks:

Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Kiran Kaja]

Exactly. Barclays Bank here in the UK has the same website for all users and
it is the most accessible and most easiest of banking websites I have ever
seen. When I was living in India, I was using HDFC netbanking and it is not
a very accessible site.

However, in case of ATM cards, I suspect that it is to do with enabling
speech automatically rather than anything else. That's the only reason I
think of having read about the technology anyway.

Regards,
Kiran
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-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Viraj Kafle
Sent: 07 July 2010 09:22
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

This has to be seen in conjunction with SBI's earlier initiative of a 
separate netbanking page for the visually challenged with restricted 
facilities. The need really is to integrate our accessibility requirements 
with mainstream facilities.
- Original Message - 
From: "Amar Jain" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India


> Dear Jayachandran Sir,
> What is the need of specially designed card?
> Audio has to come out from the machine right?
> And, why don't normal cards work?
> What are the features currently not available to us with this special card

> comparing with normal card?
> These are some of the questions on which I request you to share your 
> knowledge after exploring the ATM. You may reply me off the list too.
> And please include the remaining also if I have not mentioned.
> Regards
> Amar Jain.
> --
> From: "Jayachandran1977" 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:16 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>
>> Hello Kiran,
>>
>> This is Jayachandran from Chennai.
>>
>> Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that 
>> we have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same. 
>> Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my visually

>> impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his 
>> statement it is very user friendly.
>>
>> Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot 
>> cash, cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information 
>> please write.
>>
>> For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical 
>> cadre.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jayachandran.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Kiran Kaja" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
>> Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India
>>
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in 
>>> India? I
>>> am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are 
>>> greatly
>>> appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that they
>>> will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't 
>>> suppose
>>> any of them have been installed yet?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Kiran
>>> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons with 
>>> disability bill at:
>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/blog.htm
>>>
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>>> with the subject unsubscribe.
>>>
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>>> please visit the list home page at
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>>>
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>>
>>
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>> disability bill at:
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>
>
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Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

[Subramani L]

BSNL's speeds are not that great according to people using it already.
It is announced in Bangalore that BSNL would give the 3G sim card for
free for those who have their landline connections. The private players
are supposed to roll out their services by September. 

Subramani 



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kiran Kaja
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:47 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

There is Dragon Dictation app which funnily enough, works only in the US
for
now. There is also Vlingo which is not that accurate. With all these
tools
though, the voice recognition actually happens on the server side. So,
you
need a decent data connection to make any realistic use of them.

Same goes for Google Voice on Android.

Any idea when the 3G networks will be up and running in India? I heard
BSNL/MTNL already have 3G in some cities. Anyone used it?

Regards,
Kiran
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-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: 07 July 2010 14:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

Looks like there is a third party app for that, but couldn't test it on
account of my limited time to test the phone. 

Subramani 

 

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
Chakravarthula
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:44 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

Subramani, Vetri,

Out of curiosity, does iPhone 3Gs has dictation capabilities so that we
may
not need to key in the text?
Thanks,
Vasu

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:36 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

Hai Vetri: 

Just out of curiosity, I tried typing messages using VoiceOver. The
first difficulty is locating the keys. The order in which the letters
are located isn't very clear and lack of a tactile key is definitely
making learning slower. However, do you think it would take long for
someone to learn it? 

Subramani 



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam
Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:52 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

The point about I-phone 3g is correct and that's universal since they
don't have voiceover feature. You can access almost everything with
voiceover on 3gs. There could be some difficulties until you get used
to the touch screen interface, but that's about it. As I mentioned
before, typing could be a bit slow, but it should be possible to input
short messages with the touch screen interface. Much like other screen
readers, there is an in-build help is available to learn the screen
navigation with voiceover.

Vetri.

On 01/07/2010, Kiran Kaja  wrote:
> Let me try and clarify a few points here:
>
> 1. iPhone 3G (which is still available in India) is not accessible at
all.
> So, just forget about.
>
> 2. iPhone 3GS is also available in India and it has VoiceOver and Zoom
> functionality. VoiceOver is a full-fledged screen reader and provides
access
> to most of the built-in apps and third-party apps. It does not provide
> limited access.
>
> 3. As far as I am aware, SayText may only work with the new iPhone 4
and not
> with any other models. I may be wrong but I don't thing the camera on
the
> 3GS and 3G is sufficient for OCR.
>
> Look at www.maccessibility.net for reviews of the iPhone 3GS.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
> Chakravarthula
> Sent: 01 July 2010 17:16
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS
>
> Subramani:
>
> This may perhaps help you -
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html
>
> I remember seeing a detailed review by Victor Tsaran, but don't have
the
> link right now. You may search on Twitter.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani
L
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:03 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS
>
> Folks:
>
> Am just about 

Re: [AI] How to download Cricket with comentory?

[Subramani L]

If you are talking about downloads, you may perhaps like to check out
TMS (Test Match Special) at bbc's website where you would find podcasts
during match days. 

Subramani 



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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Abdul
Razzaq
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:46 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] How to download Cricket with comentory?

Hai friends i need a help how to download Cricket along with
comentory. Please anybody help me immideatly, please send direct links
to download Cricket Game with comentory.

Thanks&Regards
ABDUL RAZZAQ.S

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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Kiran Kaja]

The idea behind a separate ATM/debit card may perhaps be to make it more
convenient for blind users. As soon as you insert the card, the software
detects that you need speech and enables the speech option automatically. I
can't think of any other reason why they require a separate card for blind
users.

Regards,
Kiran
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-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: 07 July 2010 14:03
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

XRCVC had done a test of the ATM machines in Mumbai. While the
configuration of the machines need a little modification or addition,
the cards need nothing on them... This sounds strange. Pl share the
details on the group. Also, let me know which are the ATMs (locations)
in Chennai that  have talking facility. I am on my way to Chennai this
weekend and would like to try. 

Subramani 





-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Jayachandran1977
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:16 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

Hello Kiran,

This is Jayachandran from Chennai.

Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that
we 
have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same. 
Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my
visually 
impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his

statement it is very user friendly.

Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot
cash, 
cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information
please 
write.

For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical
cadre.

Thanks

Jayachandran.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India


> Hi All,
>
> Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in
India? 
> I
> am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are
greatly
> appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that
they
> will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't
suppose
> any of them have been installed yet?
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
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Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

[Kiran Kaja]

There is Dragon Dictation app which funnily enough, works only in the US for
now. There is also Vlingo which is not that accurate. With all these tools
though, the voice recognition actually happens on the server side. So, you
need a decent data connection to make any realistic use of them.

Same goes for Google Voice on Android.

Any idea when the 3G networks will be up and running in India? I heard
BSNL/MTNL already have 3G in some cities. Anyone used it?

Regards,
Kiran
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-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: 07 July 2010 14:05
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

Looks like there is a third party app for that, but couldn't test it on
account of my limited time to test the phone. 

Subramani 

 

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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
Chakravarthula
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:44 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

Subramani, Vetri,

Out of curiosity, does iPhone 3Gs has dictation capabilities so that we
may
not need to key in the text?
Thanks,
Vasu

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:36 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

Hai Vetri: 

Just out of curiosity, I tried typing messages using VoiceOver. The
first difficulty is locating the keys. The order in which the letters
are located isn't very clear and lack of a tactile key is definitely
making learning slower. However, do you think it would take long for
someone to learn it? 

Subramani 



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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam
Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:52 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

The point about I-phone 3g is correct and that's universal since they
don't have voiceover feature. You can access almost everything with
voiceover on 3gs. There could be some difficulties until you get used
to the touch screen interface, but that's about it. As I mentioned
before, typing could be a bit slow, but it should be possible to input
short messages with the touch screen interface. Much like other screen
readers, there is an in-build help is available to learn the screen
navigation with voiceover.

Vetri.

On 01/07/2010, Kiran Kaja  wrote:
> Let me try and clarify a few points here:
>
> 1. iPhone 3G (which is still available in India) is not accessible at
all.
> So, just forget about.
>
> 2. iPhone 3GS is also available in India and it has VoiceOver and Zoom
> functionality. VoiceOver is a full-fledged screen reader and provides
access
> to most of the built-in apps and third-party apps. It does not provide
> limited access.
>
> 3. As far as I am aware, SayText may only work with the new iPhone 4
and not
> with any other models. I may be wrong but I don't thing the camera on
the
> 3GS and 3G is sufficient for OCR.
>
> Look at www.maccessibility.net for reviews of the iPhone 3GS.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
> Chakravarthula
> Sent: 01 July 2010 17:16
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS
>
> Subramani:
>
> This may perhaps help you -
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html
>
> I remember seeing a detailed review by Victor Tsaran, but don't have
the
> link right now. You may search on Twitter.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani
L
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:03 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS
>
> Folks:
>
> Am just about to check out Say Text and do a small review cum report
for
> my newspaper. However, am told that Voice Over is not fully functional
> on iPhone 3GS.
>
> 1.Is it true that VoiceOver works only to get some contacts and
> operate music in iPhone 3Gs bought in India?
> 2. If not, pl let me know how best I or anyone buying iPhone 3GS
> in India can make the best use of VoiceOver and by extension Say Text.
> Quick response is appreciated since I need to do it faster.
>
> Subramani
>
>
> Voice your thoughts in the blog to discuss the Rights of persons w

[AI] How to download Cricket with comentory?

[Abdul Razzaq]

Hai friends i need a help how to download Cricket along with
comentory. Please anybody help me immideatly, please send direct links
to download Cricket Game with comentory.

Thanks&Regards
ABDUL RAZZAQ.S

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[AI] emergency talks users response to me

[mahesh]

my friend by  nokia 2700 mobile in shop  few months back.
now he want instal the talking software in it?
it is posible?
tel me please it is very important.

thanks in advance

skype 
maheshswis
email
maheshs...@gmail.com
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Re: [AI] Problem with System Time

[Surinder]

Mother board battery needs a replacement.

- Original Message - 
From: "jagadeshwari kumari" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:49 PM
Subject: [AI] Problem with System Time



Hello friends, my system time is slowing down automatically once in
every 5-10 days. What might be the problem? Please find the solution
for it.

--
Mob: 9900250122
Res: 080-23236014
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[AI] Problem with System Time

[jagadeshwari kumari]

Hello friends, my system time is slowing down automatically once in
every 5-10 days. What might be the problem? Please find the solution
for it.

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Res: 080-23236014
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Re: [AI] about g.o

[RAVI SHUKLA]

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:08 AM, bharath  wrote:

> i'am bharath from chennai i'am studying college second year i'am chess
> player myinternational ratting is 1564 i need all the government orders
> please send to me my mobile number 9884928446 skype id bharathbap email id
> bharath...@gmail.com
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Re: [AI] about g.o

[Subramani L]

What kind of government orders? 

Subramani 



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Subject: [AI] about g.o

i'am bharath from chennai i'am studying college second year i'am chess
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please send to me my mobile number 9884928446 skype id bharathbap email
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[AI] about g.o

[bharath]

i'am bharath from chennai i'am studying college second year i'am chess player 
myinternational ratting is 1564 i need all the government orders please send to 
me my mobile number 9884928446 skype id bharathbap email id 
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Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

[Subramani L]

Looks like there is a third party app for that, but couldn't test it on
account of my limited time to test the phone. 

Subramani 

 

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
Chakravarthula
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:44 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

Subramani, Vetri,

Out of curiosity, does iPhone 3Gs has dictation capabilities so that we
may
not need to key in the text?
Thanks,
Vasu

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Subramani L
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:36 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

Hai Vetri: 

Just out of curiosity, I tried typing messages using VoiceOver. The
first difficulty is locating the keys. The order in which the letters
are located isn't very clear and lack of a tactile key is definitely
making learning slower. However, do you think it would take long for
someone to learn it? 

Subramani 



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam
Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:52 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS

The point about I-phone 3g is correct and that's universal since they
don't have voiceover feature. You can access almost everything with
voiceover on 3gs. There could be some difficulties until you get used
to the touch screen interface, but that's about it. As I mentioned
before, typing could be a bit slow, but it should be possible to input
short messages with the touch screen interface. Much like other screen
readers, there is an in-build help is available to learn the screen
navigation with voiceover.

Vetri.

On 01/07/2010, Kiran Kaja  wrote:
> Let me try and clarify a few points here:
>
> 1. iPhone 3G (which is still available in India) is not accessible at
all.
> So, just forget about.
>
> 2. iPhone 3GS is also available in India and it has VoiceOver and Zoom
> functionality. VoiceOver is a full-fledged screen reader and provides
access
> to most of the built-in apps and third-party apps. It does not provide
> limited access.
>
> 3. As far as I am aware, SayText may only work with the new iPhone 4
and not
> with any other models. I may be wrong but I don't thing the camera on
the
> 3GS and 3G is sufficient for OCR.
>
> Look at www.maccessibility.net for reviews of the iPhone 3GS.
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
> Follow me on Twitter! www.twitter.com/kirankaja12
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
> Chakravarthula
> Sent: 01 July 2010 17:16
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS
>
> Subramani:
>
> This may perhaps help you -
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html
>
> I remember seeing a detailed review by Victor Tsaran, but don't have
the
> link right now. You may search on Twitter.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:03 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Urgent help needed regarding iPhone 3GS
>
> Folks:
>
> Am just about to check out Say Text and do a small review cum report
for
> my newspaper. However, am told that Voice Over is not fully functional
> on iPhone 3GS.
>
> 1.Is it true that VoiceOver works only to get some contacts and
> operate music in iPhone 3Gs bought in India?
> 2. If not, pl let me know how best I or anyone buying iPhone 3GS
> in India can make the best use of VoiceOver and by extension Say Text.
> Quick response is appreciated since I need to do it faster.
>
> Subramani
>
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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Subramani L]

XRCVC had done a test of the ATM machines in Mumbai. While the
configuration of the machines need a little modification or addition,
the cards need nothing on them... This sounds strange. Pl share the
details on the group. Also, let me know which are the ATMs (locations)
in Chennai that  have talking facility. I am on my way to Chennai this
weekend and would like to try. 

Subramani 





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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Jayachandran1977
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:16 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

Hello Kiran,

This is Jayachandran from Chennai.

Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that
we 
have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same. 
Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my
visually 
impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his

statement it is very user friendly.

Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot
cash, 
cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information
please 
write.

For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical
cadre.

Thanks

Jayachandran.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India


> Hi All,
>
> Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in
India? 
> I
> am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are
greatly
> appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that
they
> will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't
suppose
> any of them have been installed yet?
>
> Regards,
> Kiran
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Re: [AI] Delhi High Court on relaxation

[akhilesh]

Hello mam,
If I'm getting it correct, the following download links will suffice the need.

http://lobis.nic.in/dhc/BDA/judgement/06-07-2010/BDA06072010CW87502009.pdf

http://lobis.nic.in/dhc/BDA/judgement/06-07-2010/BDA06072010CW67592008.pdf

http://lobis.nic.in/dhc/BDA/judgement/06-07-2010/BDA06072010CW13522008.pdf
regards,
Akhilesh.

On 7/7/10, Pamnani  wrote:
> This is an interesting judgement. Please will someone email the entire text
> of the judgement .
>
> Thanks
> Kanchan
>
>
> http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Daily/skins/TOINEW/navigator.asp?Daily=TOIM&showST=true&login=default&pub=TOI
>
> its on toi page 13 today
>
> Treat disabled on a par with SC/STs: HC
>
>
>
>
> New Delhi: The Delhi HC on Tuesday said a physicallychallenged person should
> be treated on a par with SC/ST candidates, while relaxing qualifying marks
> for admission in professional courses.
>The HC asked the government to consider the recommendations of the chief
> commissioner for disabilities who had directed all governmentaided
> institutions to extend the relaxed norms to physically-disabled candidates
> to bring them on a par with SC/ST candidates.
>However, the bench refused relief to a handicapped student who had sought
> such relaxation for admission to a medical college, saying there is no such
> provision in law at present. “The disabled persons have a right to
> reservation, but there is no right to relaxation in the minimum standards,”
> it said. AGENCIES
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[AI] access India digest mode

[viji lami]

Please can any one tell me how to receive my access india mails from digest 
mode to single mode
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[AI] Delhi High Court on relaxation

[Pamnani]

This is an interesting judgement. Please will someone email the entire text of 
the judgement . 

Thanks 
Kanchan 


http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Daily/skins/TOINEW/navigator.asp?Daily=TOIM&showST=true&login=default&pub=TOI

its on toi page 13 today

Treat disabled on a par with SC/STs: HC 




New Delhi: The Delhi HC on Tuesday said a physicallychallenged person should be 
treated on a par with SC/ST candidates, while relaxing qualifying marks for 
admission in professional courses. 
   The HC asked the government to consider the recommendations of the chief 
commissioner for disabilities who had directed all governmentaided institutions 
to extend the relaxed norms to physically-disabled candidates to bring them on 
a par with SC/ST candidates. 
   However, the bench refused relief to a handicapped student who had sought 
such relaxation for admission to a medical college, saying there is no such 
provision in law at present. “The disabled persons have a right to reservation, 
but there is no right to relaxation in the minimum standards,” it said. 
AGENCIES 
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[AI] About JAWS.

[Nikhil Yogi]

Dear friends,

Is it possible to record our voice for "JAWS", like real speak solo voices.

 regards,

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[AI] NComputing launches energy-saving device

[Renuka Warriar]

The Hindu:Business   » Companies
NEW DELHI, July 6, 2010
NComputing launches energy-saving device
Special Correspondent
COST EFFECTIVE: Manish Sharma, Vice-President, NComputing, APAC
Region, launching L300 virtual desktop access device in New Delhi on
Tuesday. Photo: Shiv Kumar Pushpankar
The HinduCOST EFFECTIVE: Manish Sharma, Vice-President, NComputing,
APAC Region, launching L300 virtual desktop access device in New Delhi
on Tuesday. Photo: Shiv Kumar Pushpankar
Related
TOPICS
company information new product

NComputing Inc on Tuesday launched L300, the energy-efficient Ethernet
virtual desktop device in India, priced at Rs. 9,500 and primarily
aimed at small and medium businesses.

“L300 access devise uses the surplus energy generated by a computer to
power almost 11 to 30 users simultaneously at near or remote
locations. The product is enabled with vSpace virtualisation software,
therefore, even the remote Ethernet local-area network can be
centrally managed,” NComputing Vice-President (Asia Pacific) Manish
Sharma told journalists here.
Seamless integration

He further said that the product seamlessly integrated with the
operating system like Windows, Linux, and had two-crore daily users in
140 countries. “It not only reduces unmatched economic advantages but
also offers features like zero client access with rich full screen
motion multimedia playback,” he said.

“L300 is based on the NComputing Numo chip family that provides
substantial success with the Indian market. It delivers low-cost
investment, reduces management and IT support costs the Indian
enterprises are already adapting to virtual desktop infrastructure due
to its cost effectiveness,” Mr. Sharma added.

The L300 device to India is being sourced from Korea and will be
marketed by Redington India.

Keywords: NComputing, computer hardware, desktop devices

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Re: [AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter politics?

[akhilesh]

This has to be very very clear that we need representation in indian
parliament not by only election, but also by nomination.
People are nominated from different walks of life in rajya sabha, so
why not from our community as well!!!
Let's do something about it together.


On 7/7/10, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
> Thank you for your vote of confidence. I am not interested and will never
> be. after my recent interactions with Parliamentarians in and out of
> Parliament I am definitely not interested. I have however enjoyed your
> discussions and have read all the mails on the subject. Whoever decides to
> stand must start working now. I promise to stop my work for those last15
> days and come and campaign. I wish I had done it when Javed was standing in
> 2004.
>
> However there is one thing I would like to say there are people on this
> group who can make a difference by campaigning, lobbying and airing their
> views on subjects but who only do so in our forum.
> I know that I was not trained in advocacy. I just found something that was
> hurting others and started. Recently I have been asking for help on this
> group but except for praise I do not get the active help that such causes
> need. More about this in another email.
> In my Rotaract year as District Governor my theme was "its you who matters".
> I still feel that every one on this group makes a difference whether we are
> in Parliament or not.
> If someone really does want to stand then we will have to support and
> support actively in whatever way we can.
> Onward March to Parliament
>
> Kanchan
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Subramani L" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 5:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter politics?
>
>
>> This sounds like a good idea. I feel those who have done activism fro a
>> long time must be fielded as candidates --folks like George, Kanchan
>> (though she has been refusing I feel she is a wonderful role model and a
>> candidate to represent us in the parliament). Unfortunately, folks like
>> Harish and Rajesh are in RBI otherwise I feel they too make a good
>> candidates. Probably, if you all are interested, we will draw up a list
>> and then ask the people if they are willing to contest. Like in the US,
>> we can open websites to solicit public donation for the candidate to
>> successfully contest the election. The other alternative  is to seek
>> tickets from the parties.
>>
>> Subramani
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of akhilesh
>> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 5:00 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter
>> politics?
>>
>> Subramani sir,
>> We have been  vested with the right to fight the elections and there
>> seems no doubt about it.
>> Lets come and fight the election from the next general elections. We
>> should make sure that the numbers of visually challenged candidates
>> must not be less than 543 means; each constituency will have at least
>> one visually challenged candidate.
>> As far as nomination like Anglo Indians is concern, it has to be
>> mandatory for the GVT.  To make such laws which can give the
>> representation to PWD community in parliament.
>>
>> On 7/4/10, harish  wrote:
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I think, one should have a long term strategy. One should start from
>> the
>>> grass root and this way your credibility would be established and you
>> would
>>> also build up a team of committed persons around you.
>>>
>>> I am glad we have Sudha Patel amidst us who is doing just that.
>>>
>>> Harish Kotian.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Subramani L" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 5:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter
>> politics?
>>>
>>>
 Don't you think it is rather bettr for us to fight the elections and
 come through the straight way?

 Subramani

 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of akhilesh
 Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 1:14 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Is it time for persons with disability to enter
 politics?

 I think it would be wrong to say that Jamuna prasad shastri has not
 fought and not spoken about the rights of the disables.

 Probably you don't know, but he has started the blind school at the
 most backward region of the madhya Pradesh, and the same school is
 still flourishing and imparting the education for so many blinds in
 state of MP.

 I've got the opportunity to listen his speech, and I have done most
>> of
 my schooling from his school.
 He passed away in 1997.

 As far as election is concern, I think we should start fighting from
 our constituency's 

[AI] Require information related to scanners.

[giri prasad]

Dear access Indians,
  one of my friends is planning to purchase a scanner. Please suggest
me any brand and model number that is easy to handle and compatible
with fine reader and kurzweil.

-- 
WITH REGARDS

GIRIPRASAD

 MOBILE 92471   /   9441133367

SKYPE  giriprasad.maddina

"Our greatest glory consists not in never falling,
 but in rising every time we fall."

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Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India

[Viraj Kafle]

This has to be seen in conjunction with SBI's earlier initiative of a 
separate netbanking page for the visually challenged with restricted 
facilities. The need really is to integrate our accessibility requirements 
with mainstream facilities.
- Original Message - 
From: "Amar Jain" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Dear Jayachandran Sir,
What is the need of specially designed card?
Audio has to come out from the machine right?
And, why don't normal cards work?
What are the features currently not available to us with this special card 
comparing with normal card?
These are some of the questions on which I request you to share your 
knowledge after exploring the ATM. You may reply me off the list too.

And please include the remaining also if I have not mentioned.
Regards
Amar Jain.
--
From: "Jayachandran1977" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:16 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India


Hello Kiran,

This is Jayachandran from Chennai.

Yes sir, as you said SBi installed 5 Talking ATMs in chennai.  For that 
we have to apply for a special ATM Card.  I have applied for the same. 
Probably within a week I will be receiving that card.  One of my visually 
impaired friend has used talking ATM for withdrawal of cash.  As per his 
statement it is very user friendly.


Presently SBI has given few powers for the users of this card like hot 
cash, cash withdrawal, change of PIN etc.,  If you need more information 
please write.


For your information, I am working in State Bank of India in clerical 
cadre.


Thanks

Jayachandran.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kiran Kaja" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:57 AM
Subject: [AI] Status of talking ATM installations in India



Hi All,

Has anyone got any recent update on installation of talking ATMs in 
India? I
am doing some research on on this topic and any recent updates are 
greatly

appreciated. I remember reading an article where SBI announced that they
will be installing some 7000 ATMs throughout the country. I don't 
suppose

any of them have been installed yet?

Regards,
Kiran
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Re: [AI] Request for clarifications on Braille

[Amiyo Biswas]

Hello,

I measured a complete Braille cell as 10 x 6 mm. I could not measure the 
dots, it needs delicate instruments. Normally, 2 and half lines require 1 
inch in height whereas 4 cells require 1 inch in length. It is a rough 
calculation. I use this rule of the thumb for calculating number of lines 
and characters while configuring an Index braille printer. It works more or 
less.


With Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas.
Cell: 91-9433464329

- Original Message - 
From: "Vamshi. G" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:14 PM
Subject: [AI] Request for clarifications on Braille



Dear friends,

Apologies for the earlier blank mail.

Required the following clarifications while embossing Braille using
the moulding method and not by using any Braille type writer.


1. What is the standard height and diameter of a dot when Braille is 
embossed?

2. What is the standard space between dots in a particular cell?
3. What is the standard space between two cells in a word?

Note:  We are embossing Braille on a silicon material.  We are not
using any Braille type writer and hence have to be specific about
these dimensions.

Also please provide guidance as to the way a letter in the middle of a
word can be emphasized without capitalizing it.

Awaiting your early reply.

--
G. Vamshi
PH Res : +91 877-2243861
Mobile: +91 9949349497
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gvamsh...@gmail.com
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Re: [AI] Higher secondary mark sheets now in Braille

[Asudani, Rajesh]

More important is to get all information relating to government offices in 
accessible format.
ThEven UNCRPD hints at it.
But, that is not to be seen on the horizon right now.


Regards

"If you believe that there is a God, a God that made your
body, and yet you think that you can do anything with
that body that's dirty, then the fault lies with the manufacturer."

 --Lenny Bruce

(Rajesh Asudani)

Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
Res: 0712 2591349



-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:06 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Higher secondary mark sheets now in Braille

Hindu other states Orissa:

Higher secondary mark sheets now in Braille
Ananya Dutta
KOLKATA: Visually challenged students appearing for the Higher Secondary 
Examinations in the state can now get a feel of the marks secured by them first 
hand as the West Bengal Council for Higher Secondary Education has introduced 
Braille mark-sheets for them. In a decision taken last year, visually 
challenged students who appeared for their exams this year can get their 
mark-sheets in Braille, said Malay Roy, Deputy Secretary (Exams) of the council 
on Tuesday.
"The intention of introducing the mark-sheets in Braille is so that the student 
can experience the fruits of their labour themselves - a chance to see them 
through your own touch," he added. Even though the council wants to promote 
differently-abled persons to appear for exams there are only about 50 visually 
challenged students out of the lakhs of students who took the examination this 
year, Mr. Roy said.


Regards

"If you believe that there is a God, a God that made your
body, and yet you think that you can do anything with
that body that's dirty, then the fault lies with the manufacturer."

 --Lenny Bruce

(Rajesh Asudani)

Assistant General Manager,
Reserve Bank of India
Nagpur
09420397185
O: 0712 2806676
Res: 0712 2591349





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