Re: [AI] C5 and NetKing Antivirus.

2011-11-28 Thread BHAVESH
i also recommend not to use this product. instead, use defenks
anti-virus security suite, or kaspersky mobile security. you can
download the same from ovi store.

On 11/29/11, K. Nageswaraiah  wrote:
> I'm also not happy with the product.  It does not detect viruses but
> prevents some apps from starting automatically.  I use Mobile Guard for
> deleting spam files.
> Regards.
>
>
> -original message-
> Subject: [AI] C5 and NetKing Antivirus.
> From: "Amiyo Biswas" 
> Date: 29/11/2011 12:39 pm
>
> Hello,
>
> Some days back I installed NetKing antivirus on my C5 handset. I noticed
> that each time I switched off my handset, I have to reinstall Talks. Once
> even the registration was lost. Even now I have to enable Talks when I am
> forced to switch off my mobile or Talks suddenly stops talking.
>
> There is yet another problem. My phone memory is getting full too
> frequently. It is hardly 8 mb free most of the time. Do you recommend
> NetKing antivirus? I am using NetKing mobile guard.
>
> Best regards,
> Amiyo Biswas
> Cell: +91-9433464329
>
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Re: [AI] C5 and NetKing Antivirus.

2011-11-28 Thread K. Nageswaraiah
I'm also not happy with the product.  It does not detect viruses but prevents 
some apps from starting automatically.  I use Mobile Guard for deleting spam 
files.
Regards.


-original message-
Subject: [AI] C5 and NetKing Antivirus.
From: "Amiyo Biswas" 
Date: 29/11/2011 12:39 pm

Hello,

Some days back I installed NetKing antivirus on my C5 handset. I noticed that 
each time I switched off my handset, I have to reinstall Talks. Once even the 
registration was lost. Even now I have to enable Talks when I am forced to 
switch off my mobile or Talks suddenly stops talking.

There is yet another problem. My phone memory is getting full too frequently. 
It is hardly 8 mb free most of the time. Do you recommend NetKing antivirus? I 
am using NetKing mobile guard.

Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329


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[AI] C5 and NetKing Antivirus.

2011-11-28 Thread Amiyo Biswas
Hello,

Some days back I installed NetKing antivirus on my C5 handset. I noticed that 
each time I switched off my handset, I have to reinstall Talks. Once even the 
registration was lost. Even now I have to enable Talks when I am forced to 
switch off my mobile or Talks suddenly stops talking.

There is yet another problem. My phone memory is getting full too frequently. 
It is hardly 8 mb free most of the time. Do you recommend NetKing antivirus? I 
am using NetKing mobile guard.

Best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329


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[AI] EVMS With Braille Facility This Time

2011-11-28 Thread shahnaz

EVMS With Braille Facility This Time.

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_evms-with-braille-facility-this-time_1618738





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Re: [AI] Socializing

2011-11-28 Thread Venkatakrishnan
Verry well said and correct statement. We should defanetly take a step forwed 
and my experience is mif we go forwed one step they will also come forwed one 
step atleast.

-original message-
Subject: Re: [AI] Socializing
From: Amit Bhatt 
Date: 28.11.2011 16:29

As per my personal observation and experience, the nature of
socializing depends on persons to person, circle to circle and of
course, circumstances too.
Some of us have rightly said here, we people, the Visually Impaired
folks also need to be opened and actively involved with our friends
and associates in the social events or general network. It is not wise
to expect every time from our sighted people that they would come to
us and ask to join them just because we cannot see. The other folks
also may have the similar state of mind and expectations from us that
we should get in touch with them.
Yes, why I have said that socializing also depends on circumstance,
because it is equally true that your sighted friend would not call you
on every occasion to enjoy the things in the life. I would give you
some real examples:
I did all my studies from Mainstream School and I was actively
involved in all School activities. And like many of us said, my
friends and teachers used to be very close to me specially in the time
of School competitions and studies, however, they used to get the
company of other sighted friends while going to watch movie and all in
general.
In my office these days, my sighted friends even do not like to have
their lunch without calling me. If I am busy in some work or not
available at my workstation, they try to search me by calling me
through phone or coming to my table. Some of my friends do not like to
go for shopping without me since they feel that I have some good
experience in purchase in the market. Specially they do not want to
miss me while going out for buying perfumes, other beauty products and
Mobile phone. Again, if I am not available, they call me up and seek
my suggestion. So, it also depends on our preferences and choices,
where, why and when we want to get involve with someone.
One of my friends always invite me at his home to stay and enjoy for
the day. He also comes to me and spend some moments with me.
Despite all these experiences, I would also endorse the views of those
members who think that some of our sighted friends hesitate to get
accompany with us due to some wrong conceptions  residual in their
mind. This is true, specially in case of some of the sighted female
friends.
We should always endeavor to eliminate the misapprehensions from their
mind by our active efforts, but if they still do not change their
mentality, we have many more to join their company. The World is very
big, if one doesn’t join your hand, there are many others who would
need your companionship. We can just try to make the people mind
positive but we cannot guarantee to change their frame of mind
completely, because we just have our efforts in our hand, one cannot
control the thought and attitude of others.

Regards,

Amit Bhatt


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Re: [AI] meeting with PM

2011-11-28 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
HAHAHA
Stay put in Delhi till he obliges.
Anyway, there are hardly any trains/flights from Delhi to return, so he might 
have thought let them wait in sweet anticipation.


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of National Platform 
For The Rights of the Disabled (NPRD)
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:55 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] meeting with PM

Dear All,

A delegation of visually impaired persons was to meet the Prime Minister
today with regard to the problems faced by them in their  induction into
the IAS and allied services.

Unfortunately, the meeting did not take place.

After going through all the security drills and reaching the PM's
secretariat we were told that the PM has cancelled *all *his appointments
for the day


We are waiting for the PMO to  give us an appointment within the next few
days.

*Muralidharan*
*Assistant Convenor*
*National Platform for the Rights of the Disabled*

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Re: [AI] Home Lona

2011-11-28 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Dear
A VI is entitled to home loan like any other human being on same terms and 
conditions without any concessions/limitations...


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Saravanan
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:30 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Home Lona

Hello and hi friends,
Good Evening to you all.

I am having a doubt regarding Home Loan.
Is it possible for a VI to avail Home Loan.
Which bank is porviding Home Lonans for VI Persons.
WHat might be the interest rate. What are the terms
and condition for availing a Home Loan. Is there any concessions
for VI Persons. What are the procedures to be carried out for availing it.
Many of our (accessinida Groip) friends are working in Bank.
Expecting your guidance as earliest.

Thanks in advance
Saravanan.K
Bangalore
+91 9916512402

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Re: [AI] Relaxation of scribe norms for IBPS exam

2011-11-28 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Well, I am yet to read the CCPD order but I wish to know whether the condition 
regarding lesser marks than the candidate also stands revoked?
IBPS should have come out  with written corrigendum by now...


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of gufran
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 7:47 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Relaxation of scribe norms for IBPS exam

hi amit first of all i would like to thanks nab india and team for this
effort.
but i think we should not only stick to IBPS, we should also force SBI and
SSC to remove this barior and allow the candidate to take a breeth of fresh
air in order to hunt for a good scribe for them selvs.
although IBPS has removed the criteria for percentage, but SBI is still want
60% of marks. and even SSC has failed to arrange quality of scribes.
so we should also work with them also.
- Original Message -
From: "Amit Bhatt" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Relaxation of scribe norms for IBPS exam


Dear all,

We must appreciate the efforts being made by our people in the direction of
revising the Scribe guidelines which will certainly remove unnecessary
barriers in the examinations, however, we still need to complete the
formalities with IBPS through written documentation in a professional and
organized way.
We hope that the concerned Organizations like NAB India would request IBPS
to place the revised order (Policy) in their Website and advertisement to be
published in the future. I've come to know that IBPS is going to conduct
next exam in March April 2012 and we expect all the documentation to be
completed before the next examination.
Regardless to say, they will require to change their Scribe Declaration
Performa. and, more importantly, IBPS has to accept the revised order or
instructions approved by CCPD via written communication.

Regards,

Amit Bhatt
- Original Message -
From: "sachu ramalingam" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Relaxation of scribe norms for IBPS exam


Dear All,

Here is further information for all the aspirants which I request you all
to further cerculate to the candidates appearing for the exam.

1, IBPS has absolutely agreed not to disqualify any scribe on the basis of
percentage of marks.
2. Since the nitification may not reach every one in time, they have set up
a HELP LINE for any clarifications, even the exam centres may be requested
to call these helpline and please themselves if they have any doubt over
the issue.

HLPLINE NUMBERS ARE:
29687000, 29687250, 29687249

THESE NUMBERS ARE GIVEN BY DR. KONARK, IBPS itself.

Kudos to Pallavi Kadam and Ramkrishna who left no stone unturned to get
this huge hurdle out of the way for the visually impaired.

All the best for those appearing for the exam tomorrow.

Regards

Sachu Ramalingam

On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Kotian, H P  wrote:

>
> Friends
> Those appearing for the forthcoming IBPS test, please carry a printout of
> this revised guidelines from the link:
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21735685/i%20b%20p%20s.jpg
>
> Please find below the text. I have run OCR of the image file and no
> editing has been done.
>
> All the very best guys!
>
> Regards
> Harish Kotian.
>
>
> Ki No ATTA/' *>- kO.NJ/iRK , cO-OiZOlNATOe, I BPS
>
>
> rr^JiTcf
> chiafcTO T£s2T 3TT*J3?T 'PT:VI^FSR OFFICE OF THE CHIEF COMMISSIONER FOR
> PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES 1 ^iiHlRjlcfr "^TRT 3TT7 3Tfc*>lRdl   ^Rrf
> TR^TTT
> Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment. Govt, of India
> Case No: 49/1041/11-12  Dated: 2<2-/11/2011
> Dispatch No b
> Ms Palfav. Kadam 'Jy. Director
> National Association for the Blind 11 12. Khan Abdul Gaiiar Khan Road
> VVorti °,iafgce, Mumbai - 400C30
> Subject' Guidelines prescribed by BPS for persons with disabilities using
> scribe
> Sir.
> ... . .. t \ji. (ito cuAvvt.'
> subject.
> 2.  We believe 'hat the condition that the scribe should have *esser
> marks than Ihe candidate and not more than 60% marks in his/her academic
> stream as prescribed by iBPS for appearing in the common written
> examination, wi'.i put the candidates with disabilities to serious
> disadvantage. Therefore no such conditions snould be prescribed. The
> recommendations of this office to the Government regarding Comprehensive
> policy for conduct of written examinations for persons with disabii.^es me
> jde that such restrictions for the scribe/reaaer/!ab assistant should not
> be Imposes r stead. oroper inv;gil3tion should be ensured so that
> candidates using scribe c~ not md:. go in copying
> 3.  The concewec :.:ncn:nduding ;f>PS. are expected to facilitate
> participation by persons with disabil tes or equa bas's with others rather
> than make it more difficultly prescribing restrictive xnd :;ons fcr the
> scribe.
> vr.j"-: fal'.hhiHy,
> (T
> Dy. Chief Commissioner
> The Chairman & Managing D.rec'or IBPS House.

Re: [AI] quick Intro

2011-11-28 Thread Divyanshu Ganatra
Welcome abode Dorris. i remember you from another list.
Divyanshu

On 11/28/11, Doris and Chris  wrote:
> I have been lurking on this list for a week or two. I came upon a
> subscription link for this list during a google search. I have seen a
> few familiar names on here but I am new and want to introduce
> myself  for those whose paths I have not crossed.
>
> My name is Doris and my husband Chris and I live in Germany. chris is
> fully sighted but I lost my sight in 1998 and am totally blind except
> for some light perception in my right eye.
>
> I use jaws for windows and nvda on an xp pro sp3 system. I am the
> resident computer nerd and internet junkie around the house. I enjoy
> tekkie stuff and every once in a while get myself in trouble
> playing.  I enjoy the computer, online communication and making
> international friends. I also enjoy language - English is my second
> but beloved adopted one - and I also enjoy reading on a variety of
> subjects and any accessible format that comes my way.
>
> I joined this list as much out of technical as cultural interst and
> just to have a non-American blindness related forum for a change. I
> look forward to listening and learning and hopefully being able to
> contribute every once in a while.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> doris
>
>
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[AI] Required guidance and books.

2011-11-28 Thread balondhe
Dear Friends,
I want yourguidance for a blind girl who is studying in class 2 in Army school. 
She has very low vision. Her parrents are working in army department. She has a 
computer at home. Please guide me what can I do? Shall I teach her Braille or 
computer? Which is more benificial for her? 
The list of her course books is given below. Please tell where can I get these 
books in Braille or large print.
The list of required books:
1.   Skyline Course Book 2 Author: Shyamala Kumafadas Oxford University 
Press.

2.   Skyline Work Book 2. Author: Subbramanian Oxford University Press.

3.   Skyline Literature Reader 2. Author: Shyamala Kuumaradas Oxfore 
University.

4.   The  Grammar Tree Basic English Grammar and composition 2. Authors: 
Indranath Guha and Kavita Guha, Oxford University Press.

5.   Abinav Hindi Pustakmala Pathya Pustak 2 Authors: Kusum Agarwal, 
Pramila ShrivastavSarla Lokendra, Macmillian Publishers India ltd.

6.   Abinav Hindi Pustakmala Pathya PustakKary Pustika  2 Authors: Kusum 
Agarwal, Pramila ShrivastavSarla Lokendra, Macmillian Publishers India ltd.

Balasaheb Londhe
PGT English
Kendriya Vidyalaya no. 1 Devlali,
Near Devi Mandir,
Rest Camp Road,
Devlali Camp,
Nasik-422401
Maharashtra
Mobile: 9158087690
Email: balon...@gmail.com
Skype Id: balondhe

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Re: [AI] Wanted: Jaws Reader program - Interface program o work with JAWS for DOS

2011-11-28 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi Doris,

Jaws for dos?? What is your friend trying to do? Is he using native DOS?

Pranav 



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Re: [AI] Wanted: Jaws Reader program - Interface program o work with JAWS for DOS

2011-11-28 Thread harish

Hi Doris
Do you mean the software synthesizer.
Firstly it would work only on Creative Sb16 soundcard
Secondly, it was prone to frequent crashes

I may be having it somewhere, need to search it.
You need not use it at all.

 use Jaws in command prompt.
Harish Kotian
- Original Message - 
From: "Doris and Chris" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:25 PM
Subject: [AI] Wanted: Jaws Reader program - Interface program o work with 
JAWS for DOS




HI,

I am new on here - I'll send a proper introduction at a later time . I am 
hoping you guys might be able to help me to find the  "jaws reader" 
interface program that allows jaws for dos to run in a dos box under 
windows using software speech. I used to have this program years and years 
ago but lost it during a hard disk crash.


the page I got it from and found the link to it again is:



http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/disabilities/software/jawsfordos.php

However, the link to the program is no longer working. I have the jaws for 
dos freeware program itself but am in need for the above interface program 
to work with it.


Does anyone either have the jaws reader program itself and could share it 
with me or know where to get the software from?


I need this for a friend actually. any help would be so much appreciated!

Thanks bunches.

Doris



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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-11-28 Thread Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
One issue why your friends are not inviting you for films and other
activities may be due to the fact that they may not realize your
ability to enjoy such things and that's where your responsibility lies
in showing them how you enjoy those things despite your visual
impairment. And remember that inviting works both ways and as someone
already pointed out, you could also initiate some invitations?

Vetri.

On 28/11/2011, Sameer  wrote:
>
> Dear Rahul,
>
> I agree with the points made by Kanchan Madam in her trailing mail below
> regarding mobility.
>
> I am a late-blind individual & lost all sight when I was 22 years old. Prior
> to losing sight, I had a good-sized circle of friends but most of them
> started to avoid me after I lost my sight. Initially, I used to move around
> with a sighted guide & faced being left out from social gatherings like
> going to movies, parties etc. But since I have started moving around
> independently to a certain extent, many of my friends who had left when I
> lost my sight have returned. During talks with them, the most common thing
> for the break in friendship that I find is the presence of the sighted
> guide. Most of my friends used to consider him an outsider in the group & I
> was also marginalised as a result.
>
> So, I feel that you should also learn to move around without a sighted guide
> & trust your friends to help you move around.
>
> Regards
> Mr. Sameer Latey
> Mumbai, India
> - Original Message -
> From: "KanchanPamnani" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising
>
>
>> Rahul, I have just read your mail and haven't read the trailing mails.
>> The problem is very clear. You will have to learn mobility and get rid of
>> your sighted assistant if you really want to go out wit friends. I am
>> notasking you to get rid of the driver. The driver will be an asset. The
>> faster you get more independent the better chance you have of making
>> friends
>> and moving from acquaintances to friends.
>>
>> Please understand that once you start trying to move independently others
>> around you will give you a hand. Its a bit of play acting and a bit of
>> preplanning. Call me on any Sunday morning and we can chat.
>> For those who are late blind and feel that their friends are cutting them
>> off I can only tell yu how I managed to retain my friends.
>> 1 Initially you may have to be the one who plans an outing.
>> 2. Never show your friends that you are depending upon them for reaching a
>> place. Try to reach the meeting point on your own. Use others like
>> cabbies,
>> security guards, ushers and waiters. Be Bold and keep a bold face even if
>> you are scared or cursing in your heart.  Kanchan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
>> Sent: 28 November 2011 21:07
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> First of all, I would like to thank you all for your wonderful and
>> informative responses.
>> I would love to be friends with everyone in this group :)
>>
>> Even I happen to be very good in studies, so there are many people who
>> contact me when they have doubts/difficulties related to studies.
>> My problem is not that I don't have friends.
>> In fact, whenever I go for a class, I mostly have someone to talk to,
>> and I usually have a lot of fun with my friends.
>> The only problem is that my friends don't call me when they go to
>> other public places.
>>
>> Ajay,
>>
>> I really appreciate your views, and I somewhat agree with you.
>> However, I have always believed that I will make myself more dependent
>> on others if I don't have a sighted guide with me.
>> I believe that my friends think that, If I go somewhere only with my
>> friends, and if something goes wrong, then they will be the ones who
>> will be answerable.
>> However, if I have a sighted guide with me, then they won't have to
>> make any extra adjustments for me.
>>
>> Most of these plans are made after the class gets over.
>> So, it could also be that I usually don't end up being a part of these
>> plans merely because I mostly have to leave immediately after the
>> class gets over, because I have to go with a sighted guide and a
>> driver.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28/11/2011, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>>> Hi shadab
>>> in 4th standard I also had the same situation
>>> I was really naughty so my teacher arainged special seet for me just
>>> closed to her away from class
>>> till 12th standard teachers would want me to sit on the 1st banch
>>> because they know as soon as the teacher stoppes then ajay starts
>>> and I was too naughty I didn't miss even a single chance to moov away
>>> from my seet while in lunch or between other interwells
>>> and my friends also supported me
>>> they injoyed my company
>>> when we used to sit in class and have a chat
>>> then it was their duty to let me know when

Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-11-28 Thread Sameer


Dear Rahul,

I agree with the points made by Kanchan Madam in her trailing mail below 
regarding mobility.


I am a late-blind individual & lost all sight when I was 22 years old. Prior 
to losing sight, I had a good-sized circle of friends but most of them 
started to avoid me after I lost my sight. Initially, I used to move around 
with a sighted guide & faced being left out from social gatherings like 
going to movies, parties etc. But since I have started moving around 
independently to a certain extent, many of my friends who had left when I 
lost my sight have returned. During talks with them, the most common thing 
for the break in friendship that I find is the presence of the sighted 
guide. Most of my friends used to consider him an outsider in the group & I 
was also marginalised as a result.


So, I feel that you should also learn to move around without a sighted guide 
& trust your friends to help you move around.


Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India
- Original Message - 
From: "KanchanPamnani" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising



Rahul, I have just read your mail and haven't read the trailing mails.
The problem is very clear. You will have to learn mobility and get rid of
your sighted assistant if you really want to go out wit friends. I am
notasking you to get rid of the driver. The driver will be an asset. The
faster you get more independent the better chance you have of making 
friends

and moving from acquaintances to friends.

Please understand that once you start trying to move independently others
around you will give you a hand. Its a bit of play acting and a bit of
preplanning. Call me on any Sunday morning and we can chat.
For those who are late blind and feel that their friends are cutting them
off I can only tell yu how I managed to retain my friends.
1 Initially you may have to be the one who plans an outing.
2. Never show your friends that you are depending upon them for reaching a
place. Try to reach the meeting point on your own. Use others like 
cabbies,

security guards, ushers and waiters. Be Bold and keep a bold face even if
you are scared or cursing in your heart.  Kanchan

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: 28 November 2011 21:07
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

Hi all,

First of all, I would like to thank you all for your wonderful and
informative responses.
I would love to be friends with everyone in this group :)

Even I happen to be very good in studies, so there are many people who
contact me when they have doubts/difficulties related to studies.
My problem is not that I don't have friends.
In fact, whenever I go for a class, I mostly have someone to talk to,
and I usually have a lot of fun with my friends.
The only problem is that my friends don't call me when they go to
other public places.

Ajay,

I really appreciate your views, and I somewhat agree with you.
However, I have always believed that I will make myself more dependent
on others if I don't have a sighted guide with me.
I believe that my friends think that, If I go somewhere only with my
friends, and if something goes wrong, then they will be the ones who
will be answerable.
However, if I have a sighted guide with me, then they won't have to
make any extra adjustments for me.

Most of these plans are made after the class gets over.
So, it could also be that I usually don't end up being a part of these
plans merely because I mostly have to leave immediately after the
class gets over, because I have to go with a sighted guide and a
driver.




On 28/11/2011, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

Hi shadab
in 4th standard I also had the same situation
I was really naughty so my teacher arainged special seet for me just
closed to her away from class
till 12th standard teachers would want me to sit on the 1st banch
because they know as soon as the teacher stoppes then ajay starts
and I was too naughty I didn't miss even a single chance to moov away
from my seet while in lunch or between other interwells
and my friends also supported me
they injoyed my company
when we used to sit in class and have a chat
then it was their duty to let me know when teacher is watching by
touching me or some thing else
and I used to become silent at once
but in my whole school life
I didn't let my self to loose the top 5 positions of my class in studies
when my parents used to go in parents teacher meeting then teacher would

say

" this boy is excilent in studies
but he is equally naughty"
regards


On 11/28/11, payal  wrote:

Rahul,

You've already received some excellent tips from others on this list. 
The

main thing I can surmise from these and my own experience with other
sighted
people is that you need to be comfortable in your own skin to ensure
others
see you exactly the same way, confident and ready to take the world on.

At 17, all 

[AI] Maharashtra Reinstates Visually Impaired Clerk To College

2011-11-28 Thread shahnaz

Maharashtra Reinstates Visually Impaired Clerk To College.

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_maharashtra-reinstates-visually-impaired-clerk-to-college_1617900





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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-11-28 Thread Vamshi. G
Hi Rahul,

I've read all your mails.  I feel another problem with your sighted
guide is that he might be affecting the privacy of your friends group.
  Your friends may have him at the back of their minds while planning
their trip with you.

coming to my experience, I am also a late blind with little vision
still left.  Though I was not good at academics, I was a very
mischievous child which made me very popular in the school, with my
vision condition adding to my uniqueness.

My friends always took me everywhere they went, films, hotels, late
night parties, etc.  I don't have mobility.  So, they always gave me a
call to check whether I needed any assistance.

I even went to an expedition into a forest with my friends a few years
ago.  I still
remember one of my friends stand in a pool and place his hand adjacent
to a rock to enable me to cross the pool by stepping on his palm for
support.

I know we can't generalise things.  But try to make them feel that your presence
will make their time more joyous.  I'm blessed with such nature and
hence always had great company throughout my life so far.


On 11/28/11, Anirban Mukherjee  wrote:
> Dear Rahul,
>
> thank you for raising a brilliant discussion. your concerns brought
> back a few sweet and sour memories. let me share those. hope you will
> not be boared.
>
> the first day i went to college after having been educated in set ups
> where i always had at least a few fellow visually impaired students
> was an eye opener. i thought just due to my visual impairment, people
> would come and talk to me. but at the end of the class, nobody did and
> i was left totally alone in the college hall. i somehow staggered to
> the office gate where i had a few acquaintence. a classmate of mine
> came and talked with me. but the very next day when i started
> interacting with my friends, they readily obliged and later, i had a
> cracking college life. i took part in all sorts of
> activities--cultural, political etc. i had and still have some very
> good friends and ahem some bitter enemies. (smiles)
>
> later, when i got the job as a teacher, my school authorities thought
> me as their liability. but i have proved my worth somewhat.
>
> what is most important is that you have to present yourself in such a
> way that people feel like mixing with you.
>
> sorry for a longish and cumbersome mail and thanks for raising this topic.
>
> with greetings and regards, Anirban Mukherjee, cell: 09433305139
>
> be my friend everyone
>
> On 11/28/11, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> First of all, I would like to thank you all for your wonderful and
>> informative responses.
>> I would love to be friends with everyone in this group :)
>>
>> Even I happen to be very good in studies, so there are many people who
>> contact me when they have doubts/difficulties related to studies.
>> My problem is not that I don't have friends.
>> In fact, whenever I go for a class, I mostly have someone to talk to,
>> and I usually have a lot of fun with my friends.
>> The only problem is that my friends don't call me when they go to
>> other public places.
>>
>> Ajay,
>>
>> I really appreciate your views, and I somewhat agree with you.
>> However, I have always believed that I will make myself more dependent
>> on others if I don't have a sighted guide with me.
>>  I believe that my friends think that, If I go somewhere only with my
>> friends, and if something goes wrong, then they will be the ones who
>> will be answerable.
>> However, if I have a sighted guide with me, then they won't have to
>> make any extra adjustments for me.
>>
>>  Most of these plans are made after the class gets over.
>> So, it could also be that I usually don't end up being a part of these
>> plans merely because I mostly have to leave immediately after the
>> class gets over, because I have to go with a sighted guide and a
>> driver.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28/11/2011, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>>> Hi shadab
>>> in 4th standard I also had the same situation
>>> I was really naughty so my teacher arainged special seet for me just
>>> closed to her away from class
>>> till 12th standard teachers would want me to sit on the 1st banch
>>> because they know as soon as the teacher stoppes then ajay starts
>>> and I was too naughty I didn't miss even a single chance to moov away
>>> from my seet while in lunch or between other interwells
>>> and my friends also supported me
>>> they injoyed my company
>>> when we used to sit in class and have a chat
>>> then it was their duty to let me know when teacher is watching by
>>> touching me or some thing else
>>> and I used to become silent at once
>>> but in my whole school life
>>> I didn't let my self to loose the top 5 positions of my class in studies
>>> when my parents used to go in parents teacher meeting then teacher would
>>> say
>>> " this boy is excilent in studies
>>> but he is equally naughty"
>>> regards
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/28/11, payal  wrote:
 Rahul,

 You've already rece

Re: [AI] Wanted: Jaws Reader program - Interface program o work with JAWS for DOS

2011-11-28 Thread Doris and Chris
I'm afraid this is not the place to go as I am not lacking jaws for 
dos freeware but the third party interface  program that was 
developed by some 3rd party outfit for the blind in India and that is 
not supported by FS.


Thanks much.

Doris

At 10:48 PM 11/28/2011 +0530, you wrote:

Hello,
Please Contact technical support of Freedom Scientific available at,
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- Original Message - From: "Doris and Chris" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:25 PM
Subject: [AI] Wanted: Jaws Reader program - Interface program o work 
with JAWS for DOS




HI,

I am new on here - I'll send a proper introduction at a later time 
. I am hoping you guys might be able to help me to find the  "jaws 
reader" interface program that allows jaws for dos to run in a dos 
box under windows using software speech. I used to have this 
program years and years ago but lost it during a hard disk crash.


the page I got it from and found the link to it again is:



http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/disabilities/software/jawsfordos.php

However, the link to the program is no longer working. I have the 
jaws for dos freeware program itself but am in need for the above 
interface program to work with it.


Does anyone either have the jaws reader program itself and could 
share it with me or know where to get the software from?


I need this for a friend actually. any help would be so much appreciated!

Thanks bunches.

Doris



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Re: [AI] amazing news

2011-11-28 Thread Swati Sinha

That's Great!
Congratulations!

- Original Message - 
From: "maitreya shah" 

To: "access india" 
Cc: "Voice Vision. " ; "keyboard users" 


Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:17 PM
Subject: [AI] amazing news



hi all,
here i am having amazing news .
today , 28/11/2011 i went in the inogration ceremony of the KHEL MAHA 
Kumbh organise in vadodara by Sri Narendra Modi - Chief Minister of 
Gujarat .


about 21 lakhs of people are going to take part in this Maha Kumbh .

and the most amazing thing is that A special Olumpics in this Khel Maha 
Kumbh is organise for differently able people and
about 6 differently able people are going to take part in all type of 
sports .


Akshay Kumar the great celebrity was the chief guest and he promoted a lot 
for differently able people in front of crores of people .


i was specially invited their and i was on the stage with Akshay Kumar and 
Sri Narendra Modi !!


recieved a great honour being a VI person .


THANKS ,

MAITREYA

GIVE ME A CHANCE TO STAND & I WILL MOVE THE EARTH!!

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Re: [AI] Wanted: Jaws Reader program - Interface program o work with JAWS for DOS

2011-11-28 Thread Swati Sinha

Hello,
Please Contact technical support of Freedom Scientific available at,
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- Original Message - 
From: "Doris and Chris" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:25 PM
Subject: [AI] Wanted: Jaws Reader program - Interface program o work with 
JAWS for DOS




HI,

I am new on here - I'll send a proper introduction at a later time . I am 
hoping you guys might be able to help me to find the  "jaws reader" 
interface program that allows jaws for dos to run in a dos box under 
windows using software speech. I used to have this program years and years 
ago but lost it during a hard disk crash.


the page I got it from and found the link to it again is:



http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/disabilities/software/jawsfordos.php

However, the link to the program is no longer working. I have the jaws for 
dos freeware program itself but am in need for the above interface program 
to work with it.


Does anyone either have the jaws reader program itself and could share it 
with me or know where to get the software from?


I need this for a friend actually. any help would be so much appreciated!

Thanks bunches.

Doris



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Re: [AI] information required editing books for braille printing.

2011-11-28 Thread Swati Sinha

Please contact All India Confederation of the Blind, Delhi.
Contact:
Phone: 011 27054082
E-mail: aicbde...@yahoo.com
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To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:20 AM
Subject: [AI] information required editing books for braille printing.



   friends,
let me know if there any agency or individual for editing books for 
braille printing. krishnan m moothimoola.

assistant professor  political science law college calicut
email: moothimo...@gmail.com
ph: 09495547984.


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[AI] quick Intro

2011-11-28 Thread Doris and Chris
I have been lurking on this list for a week or two. I came upon a 
subscription link for this list during a google search. I have seen a 
few familiar names on here but I am new and want to introduce 
myself  for those whose paths I have not crossed.


My name is Doris and my husband Chris and I live in Germany. chris is 
fully sighted but I lost my sight in 1998 and am totally blind except 
for some light perception in my right eye.


I use jaws for windows and nvda on an xp pro sp3 system. I am the 
resident computer nerd and internet junkie around the house. I enjoy 
tekkie stuff and every once in a while get myself in trouble 
playing.  I enjoy the computer, online communication and making 
international friends. I also enjoy language - English is my second 
but beloved adopted one - and I also enjoy reading on a variety of 
subjects and any accessible format that comes my way.


I joined this list as much out of technical as cultural interst and 
just to have a non-American blindness related forum for a change. I 
look forward to listening and learning and hopefully being able to 
contribute every once in a while.


Warm Regards,

doris



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Re: [AI] FW: Article

2011-11-28 Thread Anirban Mukherjee
awesome observation. thank you.

best regards, Anirban

On 11/28/11, Shadab Husain  wrote:
> Prima facie, Suresh Shirude seems to be a poor deceiver. He is trying
> to deceive the court and the public by arguing that he brought the
> third child for the wellbeing of his blind child because his eldest
> one is already normal. He seems to be a cruel hypocrite who does not
> even care about the trauma he might have heaped upon his blind child
> only because he wants to compete. This is a case of domestic violence.
>
> Even if his intentions are pure, he is a top class coward,
> short-sighted, who does not even know what repercussions his stupid
> acts would have on his children; he is absolutely wretched at handling
> his personal life – how can such an impractical moron be a leader?
>
> He is superbly ruining the life of his youngest child also by training
> him to hang around his blind sibling.
>
> Regards
>
> Shadab
>
> PersonalityAndEnglish.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
> On 11/26/11, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
>> Such a thing should be strongly condemned.
>> There are so many people who are completely "normal", but are still
>> totally worthless.
>> The sad thing is that we all have friends and/or relatives who think
>> in this manner about visually impaired people.
>> With our hard work and determination, we might be able to change
>> people's perception about us, but it's very difficult to change their
>> perception about visually impaired people in general.
>> In India, even the word 'blind' is considered to be an abusive word,
>> so this is nothing compared to that.
>> Sorry for sounding so negative, but, unfortunately, that's the truth.
>>
>> On 25/11/2011, austin pinto  wrote:
>>> we should start a signiture campaign and send it to some top goverment
>>> officials to let them know what we think aboute such a petition and
>>> then put it in media
>>>
>>> On 11/25/11, Pranav Lal  wrote:
 Hi George,

 The problem with media campaigns is that they run for a short time. I
 suspect this sort of thing requires something significantly more
 sustained.
 The media campaign can be the shock component that brings this to
 people's
 attention.

 The question now is what vehicle do we use to give such initiatives
 sustainability? Do we hit the schools like what has been done to bring
 awareness in the case of firecrackers?

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[AI] Wanted: Jaws Reader program - Interface program o work with JAWS for DOS

2011-11-28 Thread Doris and Chris

HI,

I am new on here - I'll send a proper introduction at a later time . 
I am hoping you guys might be able to help me to find the  "jaws 
reader" interface program that allows jaws for dos to run in a dos 
box under windows using software speech. I used to have this program 
years and years ago but lost it during a hard disk crash.


the page I got it from and found the link to it again is:



http://acharya.iitm.ac.in/disabilities/software/jawsfordos.php

However, the link to the program is no longer working. I have the 
jaws for dos freeware program itself but am in need for the above 
interface program to work with it.


Does anyone either have the jaws reader program itself and could 
share it with me or know where to get the software from?


I need this for a friend actually. any help would be so much appreciated!

Thanks bunches.

Doris



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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-11-28 Thread Anirban Mukherjee
Dear Rahul,

thank you for raising a brilliant discussion. your concerns brought
back a few sweet and sour memories. let me share those. hope you will
not be boared.

the first day i went to college after having been educated in set ups
where i always had at least a few fellow visually impaired students
was an eye opener. i thought just due to my visual impairment, people
would come and talk to me. but at the end of the class, nobody did and
i was left totally alone in the college hall. i somehow staggered to
the office gate where i had a few acquaintence. a classmate of mine
came and talked with me. but the very next day when i started
interacting with my friends, they readily obliged and later, i had a
cracking college life. i took part in all sorts of
activities--cultural, political etc. i had and still have some very
good friends and ahem some bitter enemies. (smiles)

later, when i got the job as a teacher, my school authorities thought
me as their liability. but i have proved my worth somewhat.

what is most important is that you have to present yourself in such a
way that people feel like mixing with you.

sorry for a longish and cumbersome mail and thanks for raising this topic.

with greetings and regards, Anirban Mukherjee, cell: 09433305139

be my friend everyone

On 11/28/11, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> First of all, I would like to thank you all for your wonderful and
> informative responses.
> I would love to be friends with everyone in this group :)
>
> Even I happen to be very good in studies, so there are many people who
> contact me when they have doubts/difficulties related to studies.
> My problem is not that I don't have friends.
> In fact, whenever I go for a class, I mostly have someone to talk to,
> and I usually have a lot of fun with my friends.
> The only problem is that my friends don't call me when they go to
> other public places.
>
> Ajay,
>
> I really appreciate your views, and I somewhat agree with you.
> However, I have always believed that I will make myself more dependent
> on others if I don't have a sighted guide with me.
>  I believe that my friends think that, If I go somewhere only with my
> friends, and if something goes wrong, then they will be the ones who
> will be answerable.
> However, if I have a sighted guide with me, then they won't have to
> make any extra adjustments for me.
>
>  Most of these plans are made after the class gets over.
> So, it could also be that I usually don't end up being a part of these
> plans merely because I mostly have to leave immediately after the
> class gets over, because I have to go with a sighted guide and a
> driver.
>
>
>
>
> On 28/11/2011, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>> Hi shadab
>> in 4th standard I also had the same situation
>> I was really naughty so my teacher arainged special seet for me just
>> closed to her away from class
>> till 12th standard teachers would want me to sit on the 1st banch
>> because they know as soon as the teacher stoppes then ajay starts
>> and I was too naughty I didn't miss even a single chance to moov away
>> from my seet while in lunch or between other interwells
>> and my friends also supported me
>> they injoyed my company
>> when we used to sit in class and have a chat
>> then it was their duty to let me know when teacher is watching by
>> touching me or some thing else
>> and I used to become silent at once
>> but in my whole school life
>> I didn't let my self to loose the top 5 positions of my class in studies
>> when my parents used to go in parents teacher meeting then teacher would
>> say
>> " this boy is excilent in studies
>> but he is equally naughty"
>> regards
>>
>>
>> On 11/28/11, payal  wrote:
>>> Rahul,
>>>
>>> You've already received some excellent tips from others on this list. The
>>> main thing I can surmise from these and my own experience with other
>>> sighted
>>> people is that you need to be comfortable in your own skin to ensure
>>> others
>>> see you exactly the same way, confident and ready to take the world on.
>>>
>>> At 17, all your friends have plenty on their own to prove to the world
>>> and
>>> thus will have little time to spare you if you don't make your presence
>>> felt. As Ajay has rightly mentioned, your sighted guide is perhaps a
>>> deterent. They need  to feel like you want to be one of them and let them
>>> do
>>> all your guide perhaps does for you. You are not invisible, they need to
>>> see
>>> that. I still have trouble with people wanting to speak to my companion
>>> rather than me, simply because they know no better and I'm forced to
>>> remind
>>> them I'm only blind and can use all other faculties just fine and don't
>>> bite
>>> either.
>>>
>>> Give yourself the time and space to know that you indeed are a part of
>>> who
>>> all of them are and slowly, but surely things will get better. There are
>>> bigger things in life that will take precedence over this huge worry in
>>> some
>>> time.
>>>
>>> All the best.
>>>
>>> Payal
>>>
>>> --

Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-11-28 Thread KanchanPamnani
Rahul, I have just read your mail and haven't read the trailing mails. 
The problem is very clear. You will have to learn mobility and get rid of
your sighted assistant if you really want to go out wit friends. I am
notasking you to get rid of the driver. The driver will be an asset. The
faster you get more independent the better chance you have of making friends
and moving from acquaintances to friends.

Please understand that once you start trying to move independently others
around you will give you a hand. Its a bit of play acting and a bit of
preplanning. Call me on any Sunday morning and we can chat.  
For those who are late blind and feel that their friends are cutting them
off I can only tell yu how I managed to retain my friends. 
1 Initially you may have to be the one who plans an outing.
2. Never show your friends that you are depending upon them for reaching a
place. Try to reach the meeting point on your own. Use others like cabbies,
security guards, ushers and waiters. Be Bold and keep a bold face even if
you are scared or cursing in your heart.  Kanchan 
 
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: 28 November 2011 21:07
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Socialising

Hi all,

First of all, I would like to thank you all for your wonderful and
informative responses.
I would love to be friends with everyone in this group :)

Even I happen to be very good in studies, so there are many people who
contact me when they have doubts/difficulties related to studies.
My problem is not that I don't have friends.
In fact, whenever I go for a class, I mostly have someone to talk to,
and I usually have a lot of fun with my friends.
The only problem is that my friends don't call me when they go to
other public places.

Ajay,

I really appreciate your views, and I somewhat agree with you.
However, I have always believed that I will make myself more dependent
on others if I don't have a sighted guide with me.
 I believe that my friends think that, If I go somewhere only with my
friends, and if something goes wrong, then they will be the ones who
will be answerable.
However, if I have a sighted guide with me, then they won't have to
make any extra adjustments for me.

 Most of these plans are made after the class gets over.
So, it could also be that I usually don't end up being a part of these
plans merely because I mostly have to leave immediately after the
class gets over, because I have to go with a sighted guide and a
driver.




On 28/11/2011, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Hi shadab
> in 4th standard I also had the same situation
> I was really naughty so my teacher arainged special seet for me just
> closed to her away from class
> till 12th standard teachers would want me to sit on the 1st banch
> because they know as soon as the teacher stoppes then ajay starts
> and I was too naughty I didn't miss even a single chance to moov away
> from my seet while in lunch or between other interwells
> and my friends also supported me
> they injoyed my company
> when we used to sit in class and have a chat
> then it was their duty to let me know when teacher is watching by
> touching me or some thing else
> and I used to become silent at once
> but in my whole school life
> I didn't let my self to loose the top 5 positions of my class in studies
> when my parents used to go in parents teacher meeting then teacher would
say
> " this boy is excilent in studies
> but he is equally naughty"
> regards
>
>
> On 11/28/11, payal  wrote:
>> Rahul,
>>
>> You've already received some excellent tips from others on this list. The
>> main thing I can surmise from these and my own experience with other
>> sighted
>> people is that you need to be comfortable in your own skin to ensure
>> others
>> see you exactly the same way, confident and ready to take the world on.
>>
>> At 17, all your friends have plenty on their own to prove to the world
and
>> thus will have little time to spare you if you don't make your presence
>> felt. As Ajay has rightly mentioned, your sighted guide is perhaps a
>> deterent. They need  to feel like you want to be one of them and let them
>> do
>> all your guide perhaps does for you. You are not invisible, they need to
>> see
>> that. I still have trouble with people wanting to speak to my companion
>> rather than me, simply because they know no better and I'm forced to
>> remind
>> them I'm only blind and can use all other faculties just fine and don't
>> bite
>> either.
>>
>> Give yourself the time and space to know that you indeed are a part of
who
>> all of them are and slowly, but surely things will get better. There are
>> bigger things in life that will take precedence over this huge worry in
>> some
>> time.
>>
>> All the best.
>>
>> Payal
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On

Re: [AI] Relaxation of scribe norms for IBPS exam

2011-11-28 Thread DINESH THOLE
Hello Friends,

So just want to confirm, along with the scribe form and other
documents,   can we just carry a print out of the letter  which was
posted here fiew days back?
As what was mentioned by IBPS, were the athorities at various test
centers aware about this change in the guidelines?
I request those who have given their exams to share their experiences,
so that it will help those of us who will be appearing for the exam on
4th and 11th of December respectively.

Thanks and Regards.


Dinesh Thole.

On 11/28/11, gufran  wrote:
> hi amit first of all i would like to thanks nab india and team for this
> effort.
> but i think we should not only stick to IBPS, we should also force SBI and
> SSC to remove this barior and allow the candidate to take a breeth of fresh
> air in order to hunt for a good scribe for them selvs.
> although IBPS has removed the criteria for percentage, but SBI is still want
> 60% of marks. and even SSC has failed to arrange quality of scribes.
> so we should also work with them also.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Amit Bhatt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Relaxation of scribe norms for IBPS exam
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> We must appreciate the efforts being made by our people in the direction of
> revising the Scribe guidelines which will certainly remove unnecessary
> barriers in the examinations, however, we still need to complete the
> formalities with IBPS through written documentation in a professional and
> organized way.
> We hope that the concerned Organizations like NAB India would request IBPS
> to place the revised order (Policy) in their Website and advertisement to be
> published in the future. I've come to know that IBPS is going to conduct
> next exam in March April 2012 and we expect all the documentation to be
> completed before the next examination.
> Regardless to say, they will require to change their Scribe Declaration
> Performa. and, more importantly, IBPS has to accept the revised order or
> instructions approved by CCPD via written communication.
>
> Regards,
>
> Amit Bhatt
> - Original Message -
> From: "sachu ramalingam" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Relaxation of scribe norms for IBPS exam
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> Here is further information for all the aspirants which I request you all
> to further cerculate to the candidates appearing for the exam.
>
> 1, IBPS has absolutely agreed not to disqualify any scribe on the basis of
> percentage of marks.
> 2. Since the nitification may not reach every one in time, they have set up
> a HELP LINE for any clarifications, even the exam centres may be requested
> to call these helpline and please themselves if they have any doubt over
> the issue.
>
> HLPLINE NUMBERS ARE:
> 29687000, 29687250, 29687249
>
> THESE NUMBERS ARE GIVEN BY DR. KONARK, IBPS itself.
>
> Kudos to Pallavi Kadam and Ramkrishna who left no stone unturned to get
> this huge hurdle out of the way for the visually impaired.
>
> All the best for those appearing for the exam tomorrow.
>
> Regards
>
> Sachu Ramalingam
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>
>>
>> Friends
>> Those appearing for the forthcoming IBPS test, please carry a printout of
>> this revised guidelines from the link:
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21735685/i%20b%20p%20s.jpg
>>
>> Please find below the text. I have run OCR of the image file and no
>> editing has been done.
>>
>> All the very best guys!
>>
>> Regards
>> Harish Kotian.
>>
>>
>> Ki No ATTA/' •>- kO.NJ/iRK , cO-OiZOlNATOe, I BPS
>>
>>
>> rr^JiTcf
>> chiafcTO T£s2T 3TT*J3?T 'PT:VI^FSR OFFICE OF THE CHIEF COMMISSIONER FOR
>> PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES 1 ^iiHlRjlcfr "^TRT 3TT7 3Tfc*>lRdl   ^Rrf
>> TR^TTT
>> Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment. Govt, of India
>> Case No: 49/1041/11-12  Dated: 2<2-/11/2011
>> Dispatch No b
>> Ms Palfav. Kadam 'Jy. Director
>> National Association for the Blind 11 12. Khan Abdul Gaiiar Khan Road
>> VVorti °,iafgce, Mumbai - 400C30
>> Subject’ Guidelines prescribed by BPS for persons with disabilities using
>> scribe
>> Sir.
>> ... . .. t \ji. (ito cuAvvt.'
>> subject.
>> 2.  We believe ‘hat the condition that the scribe should have *esser
>> marks than Ihe candidate and not more than 60% marks in his/her academic
>> stream as prescribed by iBPS for appearing in the common written
>> examination, wi'.i put the candidates with disabilities to serious
>> disadvantage. Therefore no such conditions snould be prescribed. The
>> recommendations of this office to the Government regarding Comprehensive
>> policy for conduct of written examinations for persons with disabii.^es me
>> jde that such restrictions for the scribe/reaaer/!ab assistant should not
>> be Imposes r stead. oroper inv;gil3tion should be ensured so that
>> candidates using scribe c~ not md:. go in copying
>> 3.  The concewec :.:ncn:nduding ;f>PS. are expected to facilitate
>> participation by persons with disab

Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-11-28 Thread Rahul Bajaj
Hi all,

First of all, I would like to thank you all for your wonderful and
informative responses.
I would love to be friends with everyone in this group :)

Even I happen to be very good in studies, so there are many people who
contact me when they have doubts/difficulties related to studies.
My problem is not that I don't have friends.
In fact, whenever I go for a class, I mostly have someone to talk to,
and I usually have a lot of fun with my friends.
The only problem is that my friends don't call me when they go to
other public places.

Ajay,

I really appreciate your views, and I somewhat agree with you.
However, I have always believed that I will make myself more dependent
on others if I don't have a sighted guide with me.
 I believe that my friends think that, If I go somewhere only with my
friends, and if something goes wrong, then they will be the ones who
will be answerable.
However, if I have a sighted guide with me, then they won't have to
make any extra adjustments for me.

 Most of these plans are made after the class gets over.
So, it could also be that I usually don't end up being a part of these
plans merely because I mostly have to leave immediately after the
class gets over, because I have to go with a sighted guide and a
driver.




On 28/11/2011, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Hi shadab
> in 4th standard I also had the same situation
> I was really naughty so my teacher arainged special seet for me just
> closed to her away from class
> till 12th standard teachers would want me to sit on the 1st banch
> because they know as soon as the teacher stoppes then ajay starts
> and I was too naughty I didn't miss even a single chance to moov away
> from my seet while in lunch or between other interwells
> and my friends also supported me
> they injoyed my company
> when we used to sit in class and have a chat
> then it was their duty to let me know when teacher is watching by
> touching me or some thing else
> and I used to become silent at once
> but in my whole school life
> I didn't let my self to loose the top 5 positions of my class in studies
> when my parents used to go in parents teacher meeting then teacher would say
> " this boy is excilent in studies
> but he is equally naughty"
> regards
>
>
> On 11/28/11, payal  wrote:
>> Rahul,
>>
>> You've already received some excellent tips from others on this list. The
>> main thing I can surmise from these and my own experience with other
>> sighted
>> people is that you need to be comfortable in your own skin to ensure
>> others
>> see you exactly the same way, confident and ready to take the world on.
>>
>> At 17, all your friends have plenty on their own to prove to the world and
>> thus will have little time to spare you if you don't make your presence
>> felt. As Ajay has rightly mentioned, your sighted guide is perhaps a
>> deterent. They need  to feel like you want to be one of them and let them
>> do
>> all your guide perhaps does for you. You are not invisible, they need to
>> see
>> that. I still have trouble with people wanting to speak to my companion
>> rather than me, simply because they know no better and I'm forced to
>> remind
>> them I'm only blind and can use all other faculties just fine and don't
>> bite
>> either.
>>
>> Give yourself the time and space to know that you indeed are a part of who
>> all of them are and slowly, but surely things will get better. There are
>> bigger things in life that will take precedence over this huge worry in
>> some
>> time.
>>
>> All the best.
>>
>> Payal
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:23 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: [AI] Socialising
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I hope you all are well.
>> Like I've mentioned in my earlier posts, I'm 17 and am currently in 12th
>> grade.
>> I have quite a few sighted friends, but I've noticed that they hardly
>> ever call me when they go for movies, have birthday parties or have
>> get-togethers.
>> I feel that my visual impairment is a major reason for this.
>> We have appointed a sighted guide who goes with me everywhere.
>>
>> So, I often get depressed and frustrated when my friends don't call me.
>> In fact, for me, this is the biggest challenge that I currently have
>> to face due to my visual impairment.
>> I can't even ask my friends if they don't call me because of my visual
>> problem, because none of them will ever admit it.
>>
>> So, has anyone here faced this problem?
>> Please share your views and suggestions.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rahul
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] a query regarding IBPS

2011-11-28 Thread ndgadhvi05
Hello members what are the new guidelines for scribe for i b p s exam . I am 
asking beacouse my exam is on december 11th 
-original message-
Subject: [AI] a query regarding IBPS
From: "gufran" 
Date: 28/11/2011 7:33 pm

dear friends, a friend of my colleague has enroll for IBPS exam which was held 
on 27th which was yesterday. according to him, he did well in his written but 
he forget to write battery number, and other serial number of the question 
paper on answer sheet. other wise he wrote other details such as role number 
and other formalities. now the paper is under the concerned authority and now 
these things can not be corrected. so my question is, weather is he eligible 
for selection? is there any solution to sought out this problem?
please I request all expert members to come-up with solutions. as he is worried 
about this exam.
with thanks and regards gufran.

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[AI] problem in jaws skripts of skype 5.7

2011-11-28 Thread yusuf vohra

hellow list members,
here I have got problem regarding jaws skripts of skype 5.7. whenever I 
start skype, one sound occures and one small webpage opens. I have 
restarted both jaws and skype several time, but the problem percist 
again and again. not only 1 time, but again and again, this message 
comes. I am using jaws 13.

here I am pasting this small message.

Problem:  JAWS and/or Skype Restart Required

Skype is unaware that a screen reader is running and is not providing 
accessibility information,

and all attempts to fix this without reloading JAWS or Skype have failed.
JAWS and/or Skype must be restarted to fix this problem.
Until the below directions are followed, many things will not work 
correctly in Skype with JAWS.


Please close all screen readers, then restart JAWS and see if this 
corrects the problem.
If you have already done this but the problem remains, close and restart 
Skype.  This should not usually be necessary.


We are sorry for this inconvenience.  Details of the cause of this 
problem can be found

here

Press Esc to close this message and return to Skype.

so please friends, suggest me what to do?
waighting for your soon reply regarding this.
with warm regards,
yusuf vohra.


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Re: [AI] question on how to boot from cd

2011-11-28 Thread Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
Well it will work for windows 7 also. Further more, when the PC
restarts with the CD inserted, you get the press any key message and
doing so will automatically make you boot from the CD. If you are not
getting the message, then you have to make changes to your bio-setup
utility which unfortunately requires sighted help.

Vetri.

On 28/11/2011, austin pinto  wrote:
> the same works for windows 7cd also?
>
> On 11/28/11, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
>> Hello! insert window XP's CD in the CD-rom and restart your pc with the
>> restart button, located on your PC and press F9 continuesly for almost
>> more
>> than 1 minute.
>> that's it.
>>
>> With Regards
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>> Mobile: +919915073368++
>> - Original Message -
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>> To: "access uk" ; "accessindia"
>> ; "bsftb" ; "Voice
>> Vision." 
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 4:54 PM
>> Subject: [AI] question on how to boot from cd
>>
>>
>>> hi all i have a question
>>> i want to install windows on my friends pc
>>> but the problem is that i wont get sighted help
>>> i have a unattended windows installation file but cannot pass the boot
>>> from cd stage
>>> i know that the bios setup key is f2 so i press f2 to bring up the
>>> boot menu but i want to know after pressing f2 what to do? how to
>>> select cd?
>>>
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Re: [AI] a query regarding IBPS

2011-11-28 Thread ndgadhvi05
Hello members . What are the new guidelines for the scribe for i b p s exam . I 
am asking because my exam is on december 11th .   

-original message-
Subject: [AI] a query regarding IBPS
From: "gufran" 
Date: 28/11/2011 7:33 pm

dear friends, a friend of my colleague has enroll for IBPS exam which was held 
on 27th which was yesterday. according to him, he did well in his written but 
he forget to write battery number, and other serial number of the question 
paper on answer sheet. other wise he wrote other details such as role number 
and other formalities. now the paper is under the concerned authority and now 
these things can not be corrected. so my question is, weather is he eligible 
for selection? is there any solution to sought out this problem?
please I request all expert members to come-up with solutions. as he is worried 
about this exam.
with thanks and regards gufran.

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Re: [AI] help regarding net banking of SBI

2011-11-28 Thread gufran
hi in this case you can contact your branch, they will issue a new kit for 
you. i hope they will help you in this matter.
if they failed to do so, you can send a message "unhappy" to the number: 
+91-8008202020

hope this helps.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mahaveer Somani" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:24 PM
Subject: [AI] help regarding net banking of SBI



Hello Accessindians, greetings of the day.
i am facing strange problem with SBI online banking. after first time
log in, the system asked me to change user name and log in password
and i did it successfully. in the next screen, while i was entering my
profile password, phone number and other details, suddenly internet
connection disconnected due to power cut. since than i have tryed
several times but i am unable to log in my account with the new or old
password. i am a new user. please suggest me what to do?
with best regards,




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[AI] information required editing books for braille printing.

2011-11-28 Thread Krishnan
friends,
let me know if there any agency or individual for editing books for braille 
printing. krishnan m moothimoola.
assistant professor  political science law college calicut
email: moothimo...@gmail.com
ph: 09495547984.
 

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Re: [AI] Relaxation of scribe norms for IBPS exam

2011-11-28 Thread gufran
hi amit first of all i would like to thanks nab india and team for this 
effort.
but i think we should not only stick to IBPS, we should also force SBI and 
SSC to remove this barior and allow the candidate to take a breeth of fresh 
air in order to hunt for a good scribe for them selvs.
although IBPS has removed the criteria for percentage, but SBI is still want 
60% of marks. and even SSC has failed to arrange quality of scribes.

so we should also work with them also.
- Original Message - 
From: "Amit Bhatt" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Relaxation of scribe norms for IBPS exam


Dear all,

We must appreciate the efforts being made by our people in the direction of
revising the Scribe guidelines which will certainly remove unnecessary
barriers in the examinations, however, we still need to complete the
formalities with IBPS through written documentation in a professional and
organized way.
We hope that the concerned Organizations like NAB India would request IBPS
to place the revised order (Policy) in their Website and advertisement to be
published in the future. I've come to know that IBPS is going to conduct
next exam in March April 2012 and we expect all the documentation to be
completed before the next examination.
Regardless to say, they will require to change their Scribe Declaration
Performa. and, more importantly, IBPS has to accept the revised order or
instructions approved by CCPD via written communication.

Regards,

Amit Bhatt
- Original Message - 
From: "sachu ramalingam" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Relaxation of scribe norms for IBPS exam


Dear All,

Here is further information for all the aspirants which I request you all
to further cerculate to the candidates appearing for the exam.

1, IBPS has absolutely agreed not to disqualify any scribe on the basis of
percentage of marks.
2. Since the nitification may not reach every one in time, they have set up
a HELP LINE for any clarifications, even the exam centres may be requested
to call these helpline and please themselves if they have any doubt over
the issue.

HLPLINE NUMBERS ARE:
29687000, 29687250, 29687249

THESE NUMBERS ARE GIVEN BY DR. KONARK, IBPS itself.

Kudos to Pallavi Kadam and Ramkrishna who left no stone unturned to get
this huge hurdle out of the way for the visually impaired.

All the best for those appearing for the exam tomorrow.

Regards

Sachu Ramalingam

On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Kotian, H P  wrote:



Friends
Those appearing for the forthcoming IBPS test, please carry a printout of
this revised guidelines from the link:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21735685/i%20b%20p%20s.jpg

Please find below the text. I have run OCR of the image file and no
editing has been done.

All the very best guys!

Regards
Harish Kotian.


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PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES 1 ^iiHlRjlcfr "^TRT 3TT7 3Tfc*>lRdl   ^Rrf 
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Ministry of Social Justice and Empowerment. Govt, of India
Case No: 49/1041/11-12  Dated: 2<2-/11/2011
Dispatch No b
Ms Palfav. Kadam 'Jy. Director
National Association for the Blind 11 12. Khan Abdul Gaiiar Khan Road
VVorti °,iafgce, Mumbai - 400C30
Subject’ Guidelines prescribed by BPS for persons with disabilities using
scribe
Sir.
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subject.
2.  We believe ‘hat the condition that the scribe should have *esser
marks than Ihe candidate and not more than 60% marks in his/her academic
stream as prescribed by iBPS for appearing in the common written
examination, wi'.i put the candidates with disabilities to serious
disadvantage. Therefore no such conditions snould be prescribed. The
recommendations of this office to the Government regarding Comprehensive
policy for conduct of written examinations for persons with disabii.^es me
jde that such restrictions for the scribe/reaaer/!ab assistant should not
be Imposes r stead. oroper inv;gil3tion should be ensured so that
candidates using scribe c~ not md:. go in copying
3.  The concewec :.:ncn:nduding ;f>PS. are expected to facilitate
participation by persons with disabil tes or equa bas's with others rather
than make it more difficultly prescribing restrictive xnd :;ons fcr the
scribe.
vr.j"-: fal'.hhiHy,
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Dy. Chief Commissioner
The Chairman & Managing D.rec’or IBPS House. 90 Feet, D P. Road Near
Thakur Polytechnic. Of.'. Western C-y.press riignway. Ksudiva1

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Re: [AI] Master circular on customer service in banks

2011-11-28 Thread Srikanth Kanuri
nothing is here. re-upload

On 11/27/11, gufran  wrote:
> next time i will do the same.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Surinder" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 9:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Master circular on customer service in banks
>
>
>> Upload it on Dropbox and send the link. No attachments allowed on this
>> list.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "gufran" 
>> To: "arun chhabra" ;
>> ; ;
>> "Voice Vision. " ; 
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:37 PM
>> Subject: [AI] Master circular on customer service in banks
>>
>>
>>dear list members hope this circular may helpful for most of us.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] question on how to boot from cd

2011-11-28 Thread austin pinto
the same works for windows 7cd also?

On 11/28/11, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
> Hello! insert window XP's CD in the CD-rom and restart your pc with the
> restart button, located on your PC and press F9 continuesly for almost more
> than 1 minute.
> that's it.
>
> With Regards
> B. R. Nautial
> Mobile: +919915073368++
> - Original Message -
> From: "austin pinto" 
> To: "access uk" ; "accessindia"
> ; "bsftb" ; "Voice
> Vision." 
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 4:54 PM
> Subject: [AI] question on how to boot from cd
>
>
>> hi all i have a question
>> i want to install windows on my friends pc
>> but the problem is that i wont get sighted help
>> i have a unattended windows installation file but cannot pass the boot
>> from cd stage
>> i know that the bios setup key is f2 so i press f2 to bring up the
>> boot menu but i want to know after pressing f2 what to do? how to
>> select cd?
>>
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Re: [AI] Query regarding Talks & E63 handset

2011-11-28 Thread Surya Prakash Sharma

i am facing the same problem.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sameer" 

To: "Access India" 
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:30 PM
Subject: [AI] Query regarding Talks & E63 handset




Dear Access India friends,

Talks does not read the cell site information on my Nokia E63 handset. But 
the cell site info is visible to sighted people.


Kindly inform me if there is any keystroke with Talks or any setting 
changes which will make Talks the cell site info.


I am using the latest Premium version of Talks on the E63 handset.

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India

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[AI] Home Lona

2011-11-28 Thread Saravanan
Hello and hi friends,
Good Evening to you all.

I am having a doubt regarding Home Loan.
Is it possible for a VI to avail Home Loan.
Which bank is porviding Home Lonans for VI Persons.
WHat might be the interest rate. What are the terms
and condition for availing a Home Loan. Is there any concessions
for VI Persons. What are the procedures to be carried out for availing it.
Many of our (accessinida Groip) friends are working in Bank.
Expecting your guidance as earliest.

Thanks in advance
Saravanan.K
Bangalore
+91 9916512402

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[AI] Handicapped Pension Fund

2011-11-28 Thread Saravanan
Hello Friends,

Good Evening to you all .
My friend, also a VI belongs to bangalore.
He has applied for handicapped pension 
in Bangalore on December 2011.
It is about to one year. The revenue
Inspector has finished the verification
and submitted the report to the concerned
section. The clerks of the section has informed
that the order for handicapped pension has not 
amended. After amendment they will sansion it.
Those persons are telling the same information
for past nine to ten months. 
Do any one of you have idea about this.
When the order will come under amendment.
Please provide a good solution for this problem.
My friend is keep on going to taluk office every 
month. If there is any solution please guide.

Regards
Saravanan.K

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Re: [AI] About recharging my acount in my mobile through net.

2011-11-28 Thread rajasekhar

any listers of Apple MAC laptops?
Any feedback or comparison between Jaws and VoiceOver with respect to using 
laptops?

regards,
Rajasekhar


- Original Message - 
From: "yusuf vohra" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] About recharging my acount in my mobile through net.



hellow, go to
http://www.easymobilerecharge.com
and register yourself. then fill the requirements about your mobile 
recharge like your mobile number, your simcard, circul, through which bank 
you are going to recharge, etc. everything is jaws accessible.


On 11/28/2011 4:33 PM, Phen Varghese wrote:

Dear friends,

Can you explaine the steps how to recharge my acount in my mobile through 
net?

Can you give the various websites which JAWS will perfectly work?
Hope that you all can help me in this.

With regards,

Phen Varghese


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Re: [AI] question on how to boot from cd

2011-11-28 Thread B. R. Nautial
Hello! insert window XP's CD in the CD-rom and restart your pc with the 
restart button, located on your PC and press F9 continuesly for almost more 
than 1 minute.

that's it.

With Regards
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Mobile: +919915073368++
- Original Message - 
From: "austin pinto" 
To: "access uk" ; "accessindia" 
; "bsftb" ; "Voice 
Vision." 

Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 4:54 PM
Subject: [AI] question on how to boot from cd



hi all i have a question
i want to install windows on my friends pc
but the problem is that i wont get sighted help
i have a unattended windows installation file but cannot pass the boot
from cd stage
i know that the bios setup key is f2 so i press f2 to bring up the
boot menu but i want to know after pressing f2 what to do? how to
select cd?

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Re: [AI] About recharging my acount in my mobile through net.

2011-11-28 Thread yusuf vohra

hellow, go to
http://www.easymobilerecharge.com
and register yourself. then fill the requirements about your mobile 
recharge like your mobile number, your simcard, circul, through which 
bank you are going to recharge, etc. everything is jaws accessible.


On 11/28/2011 4:33 PM, Phen Varghese wrote:

Dear friends,

Can you explaine the steps how to recharge my acount in my mobile through net?
Can you give the various websites which JAWS will perfectly work?
Hope that you all can help me in this.

With regards,

Phen Varghese


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[AI] Tilting at Windmills

2011-11-28 Thread sarthak edu
Dear Access Indians,

SARTHAK, New Delhi is organising a training program called the
Windmill Training. Tilting at Windmills is a high impact attitudinal
training program which was developed by United States of America. It
has now been brought to India by Shakila Maharaj of Disability
Management Services

“Windmills works”! People who use the program report a significant
change in the attitude towards disability and people with disability.
Supervisors feel
more confident in working with disabled persons after the training.
Managers feel more confident about supervising employees with
disabilities.

Agenda for the training program:
Date: December 11 to 14, 2011
Day: Sunday to Wednesday
Time: 9:00 AM to 5:00 PM

To register please confirm through mail at sarthakindia...@gmail.com

P.S. The trainer Ms Shakila Maharaj is travelling all the way from
South Africa and therefore the cost or the fees for the training is Rs
4000 for the four days training program. This will include lunch as
well as refreshments during the day. The confirmation letter will
be sent to you after the payment is made.

We really look forward for your participation in the training program.

Please feel free to call me or Ms Swati Singh (+918860563262) for any
further clarification.

Thank you.

Warm Regards,

-- 
Dr. Jitender Aggarwal
CEO
Sarthak to empower people with disabilities
**

---

Main Office:Building # 1, Sarthak Educational Trust
 Mohammad pur, Near Bhikaji Cama Place
New Delhi – 110066

Phone:  011-42004238. Mobile: 9868627244.
Email:   sarthak...@gmail.com
Web site:  www.sarthakindia.org

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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-11-28 Thread Ajay Minocha
Hi shadab
in 4th standard I also had the same situation
I was really naughty so my teacher arainged special seet for me just
closed to her away from class
till 12th standard teachers would want me to sit on the 1st banch
because they know as soon as the teacher stoppes then ajay starts
and I was too naughty I didn't miss even a single chance to moov away
from my seet while in lunch or between other interwells
and my friends also supported me
they injoyed my company
when we used to sit in class and have a chat
then it was their duty to let me know when teacher is watching by
touching me or some thing else
and I used to become silent at once
but in my whole school life
I didn't let my self to loose the top 5 positions of my class in studies
when my parents used to go in parents teacher meeting then teacher would say
" this boy is excilent in studies
but he is equally naughty"
regards


On 11/28/11, payal  wrote:
> Rahul,
>
> You've already received some excellent tips from others on this list. The
> main thing I can surmise from these and my own experience with other sighted
> people is that you need to be comfortable in your own skin to ensure others
> see you exactly the same way, confident and ready to take the world on.
>
> At 17, all your friends have plenty on their own to prove to the world and
> thus will have little time to spare you if you don't make your presence
> felt. As Ajay has rightly mentioned, your sighted guide is perhaps a
> deterent. They need  to feel like you want to be one of them and let them do
> all your guide perhaps does for you. You are not invisible, they need to see
> that. I still have trouble with people wanting to speak to my companion
> rather than me, simply because they know no better and I'm forced to remind
> them I'm only blind and can use all other faculties just fine and don't bite
> either.
>
> Give yourself the time and space to know that you indeed are a part of who
> all of them are and slowly, but surely things will get better. There are
> bigger things in life that will take precedence over this huge worry in some
> time.
>
> All the best.
>
> Payal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:23 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Socialising
>
> Hi all,
>
> I hope you all are well.
> Like I've mentioned in my earlier posts, I'm 17 and am currently in 12th
> grade.
> I have quite a few sighted friends, but I've noticed that they hardly
> ever call me when they go for movies, have birthday parties or have
> get-togethers.
> I feel that my visual impairment is a major reason for this.
> We have appointed a sighted guide who goes with me everywhere.
>
> So, I often get depressed and frustrated when my friends don't call me.
> In fact, for me, this is the biggest challenge that I currently have
> to face due to my visual impairment.
> I can't even ask my friends if they don't call me because of my visual
> problem, because none of them will ever admit it.
>
> So, has anyone here faced this problem?
> Please share your views and suggestions.
>
> Cheers,
> Rahul
>
>
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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-11-28 Thread payal
Rahul,

You've already received some excellent tips from others on this list. The
main thing I can surmise from these and my own experience with other sighted
people is that you need to be comfortable in your own skin to ensure others
see you exactly the same way, confident and ready to take the world on.

At 17, all your friends have plenty on their own to prove to the world and
thus will have little time to spare you if you don't make your presence
felt. As Ajay has rightly mentioned, your sighted guide is perhaps a
deterent. They need  to feel like you want to be one of them and let them do
all your guide perhaps does for you. You are not invisible, they need to see
that. I still have trouble with people wanting to speak to my companion
rather than me, simply because they know no better and I'm forced to remind
them I'm only blind and can use all other faculties just fine and don't bite
either. 

Give yourself the time and space to know that you indeed are a part of who
all of them are and slowly, but surely things will get better. There are
bigger things in life that will take precedence over this huge worry in some
time.

All the best.

Payal

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Socialising

Hi all,

I hope you all are well.
Like I've mentioned in my earlier posts, I'm 17 and am currently in 12th
grade.
I have quite a few sighted friends, but I've noticed that they hardly
ever call me when they go for movies, have birthday parties or have
get-togethers.
I feel that my visual impairment is a major reason for this.
We have appointed a sighted guide who goes with me everywhere.

So, I often get depressed and frustrated when my friends don't call me.
In fact, for me, this is the biggest challenge that I currently have
to face due to my visual impairment.
I can't even ask my friends if they don't call me because of my visual
problem, because none of them will ever admit it.

So, has anyone here faced this problem?
Please share your views and suggestions.

Cheers,
Rahul


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Re: [AI] NPRD Delegation Meets Shri Mukul Wasnik

2011-11-28 Thread srinivas hdc
Thank you

On 11/26/11, National Platform For The Rights of the Disabled (NPRD)
 wrote:
> November 25, 2011
>
> * *
>
> *Press Release*
>
> * *
>
> The National Platform for the Rights of the Disabled (NPRD) is conducting a
> nation-wide signature campaign on some specific issues before the disabled.
> In this connection programmes were organized in several state headquarters
> and district centres today.
>
>
>
> In Delhi a NPRD delegation met the Union Minister for Social Justice &
> Empowerment, Shri Mukul Wasnik and submitted a memorandum today. Former
> Member of Parliament, Brinda Karat accompanied the delegation.
>
>
>
> The Minister gave a patient hearing and assured the delegation that
> appropriate measures will be taken soon.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Muralidharan*
>
> *Assistant Convenor*
>
> *NPRD*
>
>
>
>
>
> The full text of the memorandum is given below.
>
>
>
>
>
> * *
>
> *Shri Mukul Wasnik*
>
> *Union Minister for Social Justice & Empowerment*
>
> *Government of India*
>
>
>
> *Dear Shri Wasnikji,*
>
> * *
>
>
>
>
>
> 1.*BPL Census: *We are shocked at the non-inclusion of disabled persons
> in the automatic inclusion category for the 2011 BPL census being conducted
> by the Ministry for Rural Development. Even more shocking is the
> non-intervention of the MSJ&E in the matter, despite the Supreme Court
> order of May 2, 2003 clearly laying down that the disabled have to be
> listed in the automatic inclusion category for Antodaya benefits.  We
> therefore demand that all disabled persons should be provided with BPL
> cards.
>
>
>
> 2.*Disability Allowance: *Currently, under the Indira Gandhi National
> Disability Pension Scheme (IGNDPS) the Central Government provides an
> assistance of Rs. 200/- per month per beneficiary.
>
>
>
> The amount being given to the beneficiaries differs from state to state. In
> some states it is as low as Rs. 200/- whereas in some it is Rs. 1200/-
>
>
>
> In the light of ever increasing cost of living, the central allocation per
> beneficiary has to be raised to Rs. 500/- and the states asked to provide a
> matching amount so that each beneficiary receives at least Rs. 1000/- per
> month.
>
>
>
> The criteria/norms/rules for receiving this allowance also vary from state
> to state. They also have to be made uniform.
>
>
>
> 3.*Universally Valid Identity Card: *There should be one universally
> valid identity card.  This card should be issued by the village/taluka
> offices and delivered at the residence of the disabled within seven days of
> the receipt of an application. Multiplicity of cards/certificates hinders
> the disabled from seeking benefits.
>
>
>
> *4.**Reservations -- Filling of Backlogs: *There is no correct data
> available on the backlog in vacancies for the disabled in various
> departments. Special drives have to be launched by all departments to clear
> the backlogs. **
>
> * *
>
> Jobs for persons with different disabilities should be identified, reviewed
> and updated. These have to be notified and filled by central and state
> government departments and PSU’s within a stipulated time frame. The
> Ministry should create a monitoring mechanism for this purpose.
>
>
>
> We hope you will give due consideration to these demands and take
> appropriate steps to implement them.
>
>
>
> Yours sincerely
>
> Sd/-
>
>
>
> *(Abdul Mabood)   (Pankaj Sinha)*
>
> *Snehi
> HRLN*
>
> * *
>
> *(Shampa Sengupta)  (Muralidharan)*
>
> *SDRC   NPRD
> *
>
>
>
>
>
> Signatory Organisations:
>
>
>
> 1.  Differently-Abled Welfare Federation, Kerala
>
> 2.  Haryana Viklang Adhikar Manch, Haryana
>
> 3.  Himachal Viklang Adhikar Manch, Himachal Pradesh
>
> 4.  Human Rights Law Network, New Delhi
>
> 5.  Jharkhand Viklang Morcha, Jharkhand
>
> 6.  Karnataka Rajya Angavikalara Mattu Palakara Okkota,
> Karnataka
>
> 7.  Manipur Rights for the Disabled, Manipur
>
> 8.  NPRD, Andhra Pradesh
>
> 9.  Platform for Rights of Disabled, Orissa
>
> 10. Paschimbanga Rajya Pratibandhi Sammilani, West Bengal
>
> 11. Snehi, Delhi
>
> 12. Sruti Disability Rights Centre, West Bengal
>
> 13. Tamilnadu Assn for the Rights of Differently-Abled & Caregivers
>
> 14. Viklang Adhikar Manch, Gujarat
>
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[AI] Eyeway Blind Cricket Challenger

2011-11-28 Thread George Abraham


We at Score Foundation are organising the inaugural Eyeway Blind Cricket
Challenger at New Delhi

Dates: 29th Nov-4th Dec, 2011
Venue: Frank Anthony Public School cricket grounds
Timing: All days from 2 p.m. to 5 p.m. and on 3rd Dec  from 10 a.m. to 5
p.m.

This is the launch of an annual inter school Blind Cricket event which would
be a platform that would bring together 4 of the top  blind schools of the
capital in a league cum knock out tournament. The  matches will be in the
20-20 format.

The Objectives of the tournament are:
1. To create an annual event that is a fun platform for the blind kids of
Delhi
2. To establish a rapport between Eyeway (single stop knowledge resource on
life with blindness) and the blind kids
3. To promote Eyeway, the knowledge resource
4. Use the event to spread the message of ability/talent/potential to the
people of Delhi
5. To celebrate "World Disability Day" ( 3rd December)

A brief about Eyeway:

Eyeway was launched in 2003 by Score Foundation as a single stop knowledge
resource on life with blindness, with the object of using Information not
only Inform but also to Inspire and Empower. We believe that the real
problem is the not the "blindness" but the "Mindset". Eyeway endeavours to
change this mindset. The Govt. policies/programmes, NGOs by and large look
at blind people as lesser beings and as people who need to be looked after.
We believe that they need to be invested in and seen as potential resource
for the country.

Today Eyeway Comprises:

1. the website www.eyeway.org
2. the weekly radio programme "eyeway, yea hai roshni ka karwan" broadcast
from 30 cities of India/also in Oriya
3. the eyeway helpdesk which receives calls from across India
4. the eyeway sms alerts: over 2500 subscribers
5. the eyeway awareness workshops: in different parts of India
6. the Eyeway advocacy initiatives
7. Eyeway blind cricket challenger(just launched)

Score Foundation was established in May, 2002 as an NGO working with the
blind and visually impaired persons in India. In 2003, the Foundation
launched Eyeway as a single stop Knowledge Resource on "Life with
Blindness". It is believed at Score Foundation that the real problem is not
with the blindness, it is with the mindset. Eyeway endeavours to change this
mindset to help the blind person to find his or her space in the community
and the National economy.

The mission at Score Foundation is to "Help realize personal independence,
economic self reliance and social inclusion of every blind and visually
impaired person in India.

We believe that every blind person in the country has potential and should
be viewed as a resource and hence should be invested in. They should not be
looked upon as a liability and merely provided for.

The event is being covered live on our website www.eyeway.org/cricket

Highlights can also be seen on DD sports.






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[AI] About recharging my acount in my mobile through net.

2011-11-28 Thread Phen Varghese
Dear friends,

Can you explaine the steps how to recharge my acount in my mobile through net?
Can you give the various websites which JAWS will perfectly work?
Hope that you all can help me in this.

With regards,

Phen Varghese


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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-11-28 Thread Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala
wow - that's an interesting point. One may not necessarily be good at
academics in order to make friends in school/college. What matters is
one's attitude, behavior, lingual skills, body language, and an
overall feeling of being equal to, not lesser or greater than, friends
- sighted or challenged.

On 11/28/11, Shadab Husain  wrote:
> Everyone, unlike me, seems to be excellent at studies! First time I
> failed in the half yearly exams of class 6th. I became really naughty.
> Save a few teachers, everyone had thrashed me at La Martiniere Boys. I
> was promoted with warning in 7th where again I failed in the half
> yearly exams. My chair used to be apart from the entire class. But my
> fun was appreciated and thankfully I was never short of friends. You
> need to enjoy yourself and make the people laugh around to make
> friends!
>
> PersonalityAndEnglish.blogspot.com
>
> On 11/28/11, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>> here I would also like to add one more thing
>> till my 10th standard mymom used to drop and pick me up from my school
>> I didn't have many friends then
>> but when in 11th My mom became ill
>> then I started to come alone
>> and in just 1 year I was socialised with most of the class
>> we should be keen to help others in what ever way we can
>> then nobody can remain alone without a group
>> earlier my friends used to have a fear in their mind about handling me
>> but now the hold my hand but I take care of my self
>> in markets molls or cinemas
>>
>> regards
>>
>> On 11/28/11, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala  wrote:
>>> I agree with Ajay, I have been through similar situations in
>>> school/college. I remember my first day in college when I could not
>>> find anyone of my school mates, so just went and sat besides an
>>> unknown student who was constantly talking with his school buddy on
>>> the other side. Some teachers asked us to introduce ourselves with
>>> name and marks for the specific subject where I was one of the top
>>> scorers. By the end of the day, my bench partner asked me how I would
>>> go home, how I study, etc and the next day, he asked me if I need
>>> something from the canteen. I joined him to the canteen and thereafter
>>> we became friends. I've experienced that people are more comfortable
>>> with independent movers maybe, they feel like being free from worrying
>>> about the challenged friend. Everyone on the list must have had unique
>>> experiences and may think in their own way.
>>>
>>> On 11/28/11, Alla rakhi  wrote:
 What has been said by ajay is absolutely true. You'll never be counted
 as a friend on equal terms by your sighted counterparts unless you're
 independant in mobility. but on the other hand, mind you that, if  you
 can handle yourself independantly without being dependant all the time
 on others then you'll find that hardly do your sighted friends
 distinguish you from others. Be mobile and good in socialising and
 daily living skills, then you'll find most of things in the society
 become normal to you even if you are a totally blind. Mustering good
 mobility skills is no rocketry science but it definitely require a
 strong will power an a desire for it.

 On 11/28/11, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Hi rahul
> sorry for a long mail
>
> it may sound harsh to you
> but the main problam is the sighted guide
> please don't mind but after passing your 12th you should devote some
> time specially to have a nice mobility training
> and when you sit in your group
> then you should take active partisipation in their conversations
> they will automatically ask you for hang outs
> I had also faced the same situation when I was at school
> because school students  have a fear in their mind about handeling a
> blind or low vision person
> I had a positive thing with me
> that I used to be an outstanding student in my school as well as
> college
> so many people got excited to talk to me
> and after that they became my good friends
> when I passed my school I had a large number of friends and other
> suggesting me to study with distence education plan
> because they thought that going alone to college was not my cup of tea
> my parents also thought that way
> but when I went to college they are quite satisfied with me
> I also remember the 1st day of my college
> One of my sighted friend who was my class mate earlier
> had dropped me to my class
> an unknown person helped me to aquire a seet in class
> when the lecturor came she asked us to present our selves by giving a
> brief introduction
> I was the 1st to go
> when I finished my introduction the lecturor asked me some special
> questions about my life
> which I answered quite patiently
> then I had allmost 10 to 15 people gathered around me
> after the class they were qurious about their low vision friend
> soon I got familiar with them
> 

[AI] After Buzz, Google to discontinue seven more products

2011-11-28 Thread Renuka Warriar
Source: http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/internet/article2668017.ece

New York, November 28, 2011
After Buzz, Google to discontinue seven more products
PTI

Internet search titan Google plans to discontinue seven more products,
including ‘Wave’, in a bid to simplify its services further. File
photo
APInternet search titan Google plans to discontinue seven more
products, including ‘Wave’, in a bid to simplify its services further.
File photo

Internet search titan Google plans to discontinue seven more products,
including ‘Wave’, in a bid to simplify its services further after
bringing down the curtains on its ‘Buzz’ social networking,
microblogging and messaging tool.

The off-season “spring cleaning” would mark the end of various Google
services such as Wave, Knol, Gears, Bookmarks Lists, Friend Connect
and Search Timeline, Google Senior Vice-President (Operations) Urs
Holzle said in a blogpost.

In addition, Google said it will also shelve its ’renewable
energy-cheaper-than-coal initiative, which was touted as an effort to
drive down the cost of renewable energy.

This is the third time that Google has announced a whittling down of
its products slate after they failed to generate interest among users.

Google said some of the services will stop working from next month and
by next year, most of the products will be shut down completely.

“To recap, we’re in the process of shutting a number of products which
haven’t had the impact we’d hoped for, integrating others as features
into our broader product efforts and ending several which have shown
us a different path forward. Overall, our aim is to build a simpler,
more intuitive, truly beautiful Google user experience,” Holzle added.

The US-based firm said Google Wave -- which was an attempt to combine
email and instant messaging for real-time collaboration -- will turn
off completely from April 30, 2012.

In addition, Google Friends Connect service -- which allowed
webmasters to add social features to their sites by embedding a
snippet of code -- would be retired from March 1, 2012.

Google Gears, which maintains web browser functionality when working
offline, will stop working from December 1 and Google Bookmarks List,
a service which allowed users to share bookmarks with friends, will
end on December 19.

Last month, Google announced that it will shut down its social
networking product Google Buzz. In September, Google said it will
close as many as 10 products, including Aardvark and Fast Flip, as it
streamlines operations and focuses on areas that have “higher impact”.

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2011-11-28 Thread siva rao
On 11/28/11, austin pinto  wrote:
> hi all basicaly i have 2 questions
> 1 is ebuddy messanger fully accessable with talks latest?
> 2 please give me step by step instructions on how to use the messanger
> with talks and download link
> 3 if any potcasts are there on ebuddy messanger then please give me the url
> thanks
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Re: [AI] Socialising

2011-11-28 Thread Shadab Husain
Everyone, unlike me, seems to be excellent at studies! First time I
failed in the half yearly exams of class 6th. I became really naughty.
Save a few teachers, everyone had thrashed me at La Martiniere Boys. I
was promoted with warning in 7th where again I failed in the half
yearly exams. My chair used to be apart from the entire class. But my
fun was appreciated and thankfully I was never short of friends. You
need to enjoy yourself and make the people laugh around to make
friends!

PersonalityAndEnglish.blogspot.com

On 11/28/11, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> here I would also like to add one more thing
> till my 10th standard mymom used to drop and pick me up from my school
> I didn't have many friends then
> but when in 11th My mom became ill
> then I started to come alone
> and in just 1 year I was socialised with most of the class
> we should be keen to help others in what ever way we can
> then nobody can remain alone without a group
> earlier my friends used to have a fear in their mind about handling me
> but now the hold my hand but I take care of my self
> in markets molls or cinemas
>
> regards
>
> On 11/28/11, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala  wrote:
>> I agree with Ajay, I have been through similar situations in
>> school/college. I remember my first day in college when I could not
>> find anyone of my school mates, so just went and sat besides an
>> unknown student who was constantly talking with his school buddy on
>> the other side. Some teachers asked us to introduce ourselves with
>> name and marks for the specific subject where I was one of the top
>> scorers. By the end of the day, my bench partner asked me how I would
>> go home, how I study, etc and the next day, he asked me if I need
>> something from the canteen. I joined him to the canteen and thereafter
>> we became friends. I've experienced that people are more comfortable
>> with independent movers maybe, they feel like being free from worrying
>> about the challenged friend. Everyone on the list must have had unique
>> experiences and may think in their own way.
>>
>> On 11/28/11, Alla rakhi  wrote:
>>> What has been said by ajay is absolutely true. You'll never be counted
>>> as a friend on equal terms by your sighted counterparts unless you're
>>> independant in mobility. but on the other hand, mind you that, if  you
>>> can handle yourself independantly without being dependant all the time
>>> on others then you'll find that hardly do your sighted friends
>>> distinguish you from others. Be mobile and good in socialising and
>>> daily living skills, then you'll find most of things in the society
>>> become normal to you even if you are a totally blind. Mustering good
>>> mobility skills is no rocketry science but it definitely require a
>>> strong will power an a desire for it.
>>>
>>> On 11/28/11, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
 Hi rahul
 sorry for a long mail

 it may sound harsh to you
 but the main problam is the sighted guide
 please don't mind but after passing your 12th you should devote some
 time specially to have a nice mobility training
 and when you sit in your group
 then you should take active partisipation in their conversations
 they will automatically ask you for hang outs
 I had also faced the same situation when I was at school
 because school students  have a fear in their mind about handeling a
 blind or low vision person
 I had a positive thing with me
 that I used to be an outstanding student in my school as well as college
 so many people got excited to talk to me
 and after that they became my good friends
 when I passed my school I had a large number of friends and other
 suggesting me to study with distence education plan
 because they thought that going alone to college was not my cup of tea
 my parents also thought that way
 but when I went to college they are quite satisfied with me
 I also remember the 1st day of my college
 One of my sighted friend who was my class mate earlier
 had dropped me to my class
 an unknown person helped me to aquire a seet in class
 when the lecturor came she asked us to present our selves by giving a
 brief introduction
 I was the 1st to go
 when I finished my introduction the lecturor asked me some special
 questions about my life
 which I answered quite patiently
 then I had allmost 10 to 15 people gathered around me
 after the class they were qurious about their low vision friend
 soon I got familiar with them
 now they tell me that when we saw the very 1st day they we got very
 imotional
 specially the girls
 they call me to see movie or just to have a nice hang out
 they didn't had any idea to handle me
 in earlier they used to pull me behind them
 then I told them the right way to handle me
 when I go in class then if I recorganise somebody I say hi to him or her
 if not then they will come to my seet to meet m

Re: [AI] Socializing

2011-11-28 Thread Phen Varghese
Dear Friend's,

For me all friends are the same.
They interact with me and we have gatherings and we have a lot of fun.
For them I am an inspirator.
If you take the case of the female friends they would like to know
what a person like me can do in this world.
For their mind to be positive they consider me as a normal sighted
person because of my smile and interaction.
So for me even if I don't tell them they are ready to take me where
ever they are gathering if I am interested to go with them.

Regards,

Phen Varghese

On 11/28/11, Amit Bhatt  wrote:
> As per my personal observation and experience, the nature of
> socializing depends on persons to person, circle to circle and of
> course, circumstances too.
> Some of us have rightly said here, we people, the Visually Impaired
> folks also need to be opened and actively involved with our friends
> and associates in the social events or general network. It is not wise
> to expect every time from our sighted people that they would come to
> us and ask to join them just because we cannot see. The other folks
> also may have the similar state of mind and expectations from us that
> we should get in touch with them.
> Yes, why I have said that socializing also depends on circumstance,
> because it is equally true that your sighted friend would not call you
> on every occasion to enjoy the things in the life. I would give you
> some real examples:
> I did all my studies from Mainstream School and I was actively
> involved in all School activities. And like many of us said, my
> friends and teachers used to be very close to me specially in the time
> of School competitions and studies, however, they used to get the
> company of other sighted friends while going to watch movie and all in
> general.
> In my office these days, my sighted friends even do not like to have
> their lunch without calling me. If I am busy in some work or not
> available at my workstation, they try to search me by calling me
> through phone or coming to my table. Some of my friends do not like to
> go for shopping without me since they feel that I have some good
> experience in purchase in the market. Specially they do not want to
> miss me while going out for buying perfumes, other beauty products and
> Mobile phone. Again, if I am not available, they call me up and seek
> my suggestion. So, it also depends on our preferences and choices,
> where, why and when we want to get involve with someone.
> One of my friends always invite me at his home to stay and enjoy for
> the day. He also comes to me and spend some moments with me.
> Despite all these experiences, I would also endorse the views of those
> members who think that some of our sighted friends hesitate to get
> accompany with us due to some wrong conceptions  residual in their
> mind. This is true, specially in case of some of the sighted female
> friends.
> We should always endeavor to eliminate the misapprehensions from their
> mind by our active efforts, but if they still do not change their
> mentality, we have many more to join their company. The World is very
> big, if one doesn’t join your hand, there are many others who would
> need your companionship. We can just try to make the people mind
> positive but we cannot guarantee to change their frame of mind
> completely, because we just have our efforts in our hand, one cannot
> control the thought and attitude of others.
>
> Regards,
>
> Amit Bhatt
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