Re: [AI] Strange problem

[Hozefa Tambawala]

May I know the purpose of this option?

On 12/5/13, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:
> I am not sure, but maybe the preview pane is causing the delay. When inside
>
> the windows explorer window, press alt+p. It should turn off the preview
> window. jaws will say checked or unchecked. keep it unchecked and your
> problem might be solved.
>
> Another way to do this is:
> Again go to windows explorer,
> Alt+t=tools,
> O=options,
> Ctrl+tab to View tab,
> Tab until your in the tree view,
> Now press the letter "s",
> Until you hear "Show preview handlers in preview pane";
> By default it's on,
> Press the spacebar to turn this item off,
> And tab to okay press enter.
>
> With best Regards,
> Amiyo Biswas
> Cell: +91-9433464329
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> concerningthe disabled.'" 
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:41 PM
> Subject: [AI] Strange problem
>
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>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> I am using windows 7 64 bit with MS 2007. When I open any folder in my
>> laptop, it takes 2-3 minutes time to open, I also checked my antivirus
>> setting but all is fine. Now I don't know that how to solve this problem.
>>
>> Please help.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Sonu
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Re: [AI] outlook express strange problem.

[Amiyo Biswas]

Go to Tools / options and press Ctrl+tab key thrice to access the Send tab.

The first option is Save copy of sent messages in the 'Sent Items' folder. 
make sure it is checked. This is the default option. perhaps it has been 
inadvertently unchecked.


With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
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From: "mamta" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:39 AM
Subject: [AI] outlook express strange problem.



hello to all!

from 2nd of December evening am facing a strange problem with outlook 
express. what is happening is that when I am sending mails. it is getting 
sent I mean going into the outbox folder but not going from there to the 
sent items folder. which I am not confirmed that my mail is sent or not.


however when confirming from the recipient They have received the mail. 
but for me its not going in the sent items folder.


How to solve this problem?

with this mails are repeated being sent again until I do not move or 
delete it from the outbox. its being sent again and again when I press 
control + M to send and receive mails.


Please do help with the solution to solve this problem.

Thanks a lot to all.

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Re: [AI] Strange problem

[Amiyo Biswas]

I am not sure, but maybe the preview pane is causing the delay. When inside 
the windows explorer window, press alt+p. It should turn off the preview 
window. jaws will say checked or unchecked. keep it unchecked and your 
problem might be solved.


Another way to do this is:
Again go to windows explorer,
Alt+t=tools,
O=options,
Ctrl+tab to View tab,
Tab until your in the tree view,
Now press the letter "s",
Until you hear "Show preview handlers in preview pane";
By default it's on,
Press the spacebar to turn this item off,
And tab to okay press enter.

With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329
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From: "CVM" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.'" 

Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 11:41 PM
Subject: [AI] Strange problem



Dear Friends,

I am using windows 7 64 bit with MS 2007. When I open any folder in my
laptop, it takes 2-3 minutes time to open, I also checked my antivirus
setting but all is fine. Now I don't know that how to solve this problem.

Please help.

Thank you

Regards

Sonu

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Re: [AI] Indian Foreign Services-Visually Challenged

[George Abraham]

His name was Rabi Avraham. He was posted in Delhi around 2004 to 2006 or
so.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of payal
Sent: 05 December 2013 12:16
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Indian Foreign Services-Visually Challenged

I remember seeing an article on this list where mention has been made of
the person Harish has spoken of. I think she is a Ms Cementwala, I'm not
certain of her first name. she was visiting Devnar School in Hyderabad a
few weeks ago. 

Payal

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Of Kotian, H P
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:40 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Indian Foreign Services-Visually Challenged

Hi
There used to be a blind person from the US embassy stationed in India.

This could be a reference point to work on.
Harish.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
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Sent: 04 December 2013 21:58
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Indian Foreign Services-Visually Challenged

The doors of Indian Foreign service are open for a visually challanged
person. One has to qualify Civil services and have to give foreign service
as his first preference, there is no such bar that a VH candidate cann't
hold that office. Nonetheless for being successful in this career one has
to be proficient in good understanding of foreign relations of India with
other country and good knowledge of various affairs between India and
allocated country .

On 12/4/13, aishwarya pillai  wrote:
> Hi all,
> Can a visually challenged have a good career in Indian Foreign services?
> A friend of mine wants to pursue I F S.  But he does not know if that 
> will be a right career for him.  He is presently doing his LLB.  Is 
> there any one who has done I F S before. Please help!
> With regards,
> Aishwarya.
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Re: [AI] Delhi state election accessibility check

[Vivekananda Doddamani.]

myne was a very tipical experiance in Delhi voting, as soon as I
entered the room I asked for Braille list of candidates but presiding
officer refused such list & stood from her table & read all list of
candidates on EBM machine I requested to her to go back to her seat &
counted the buttons from top to bottom & pressed the desire buttons,
if they would have provided the braille list it would have been easy &
decreased my voting time,

On 12/5/13, Nirmal Verma  wrote:
> We had many illeterate voters in mwarby booth so we told them to Go from
> top to bottom and at certain no you have that particular symbol.
>
> Nirmal
> On Dec 5, 2013 5:45 AM, "Pranav Lal"  wrote:
>
>> Hi Nirmal,
>>
>> How would you know where the number is on the EVM? Do you count from the
>> left or the right or were there Braille markings?
>>
>> Pranav
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> Behalf
>> Of Nirmal Verma
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:33 PM
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>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Delhi state election accessibility check
>>
>> People following political party on social media knew at what number
>> their
>> symbols are in the evm in thw particular constituency.
>> Nirmal
>> On Dec 4, 2013 9:24 PM, "Viraj"  wrote:
>>
>> > I could locate the numbers in braille beside each buttons. But I think
>> > they could be inscribed with more clarity.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > > On 04-Dec-2013, at 9:13 pm, "Pranav Lal" 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hi all,
>> > >
>> > > Has anyone voted in the Delhi state election? If so, was there any
>> > > accessible way to know which button to press on the eletronic voting
>> > machine
>> > > or EVM? I ask because I did not find it but I was in a hurry so may
>> have
>> > > missed something.
>> > >
>> > > Pranav
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Re: [AI] Indian Foreign Services-Visually Challenged

[payal]

I remember seeing an article on this list where mention has been made of the
person Harish has spoken of. I think she is a Ms Cementwala, I'm not certain
of her first name. she was visiting Devnar School in Hyderabad a few weeks
ago. 

Payal

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kotian, H P
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:40 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Indian Foreign Services-Visually Challenged

Hi
There used to be a blind person from the US embassy stationed in India.

This could be a reference point to work on.
Harish.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: 04 December 2013 21:58
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Indian Foreign Services-Visually Challenged

The doors of Indian Foreign service are open for a visually challanged
person. One has to qualify Civil services and have to give foreign
service as his first preference, there is no such bar that a VH
candidate cann't hold that office. Nonetheless for being successful in
this career one has to be proficient in good understanding of foreign
relations of India with other country and good knowledge of various
affairs between India and allocated country .

On 12/4/13, aishwarya pillai  wrote:
> Hi all,
> Can a visually challenged have a good career in Indian Foreign services?
> A friend of mine wants to pursue I F S.  But he does not know if that
> will be a right career for him.  He is presently doing his LLB.  Is
> there any one who has done I F S before. Please help!
> With regards,
> Aishwarya.
>
>
> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
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2009 - 2011 M.Phil, International Legal Studies, JNU.
2011 - 2013 LL.M, Faculty of Law, University of Delhi.
2013 - Pursuing Ph.D in International Law, JNU

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[AI] article on delhi university

[kapil sapra]

-- 
Kapil kumar

research Scholar
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Cell. No. 9811174243
hi to all,

compelled to mention of the article of which the link is pasted below.
I urge you all to have a look at it and express your views..


through this article the writer has just tried to appritiate the
efforts of university and to speak good words about them. no efforts
were made to mention about the serious efforts made by the students of
the university. at one point of time, by their own selves and at other
point of time, under the banner  of sambhavana. it is sad to give
whole of the credit to eoc or the university administration for
changes being brought. whether it is the case of the syllabus of the
foundation course for the blind students of the university, those all
changes were brought after the intervention made by sambhavana in form
of case.

I agree that the moves of university are appritiable but I also label
them as charity as no serious efforts for the employment of disabled
students are made. there are various matters lying ahead.

http://millenniumpost.in/NewsContent.aspx?NID=45646

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[AI] Where is my Right to Vote?

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
Pasting a post which failed to get to the list.
Harish.
Quoting:

Hi friends,

Persons with visual impairment have right to participate in political 
activities as equal with others. The issue of inaccessibility has been major 
challenge to restrict the person's mobility and exercise their franchise. There 
are government provision (Supreme court order, 2004) to ensure right of the 
blind people to vote. Inspite of the fact,   most of the people can't give 
their vote due to lack of facilities and ignorance.

I am doing my preliminary research aiming to knock the door of the election 
commission of India. I have done with RTI application with five states where 
general assembly election has  happened. I am also doing interviews with people 
from all these states like Rajasthan,MP, Mizoram ,Chhatisgrah and Delhi.

If any body interested to add to my findings please feel free to share your 
experience of voting.That will help us to make the arguments strong.

My experience with my brother who has disability at polling both:
*  police were relatively sensitive
*  There was no awareness among officer and volunteers presented at 
polling both
*  I did not see the braille signage on EVMs machine
*  I feel that goverment is failed to provide the basic provisions 
mentioned in the supreme court order which itself is outdated and insufficient 
to ensure the barrier free voting.


DO Share and voice out for a change!

Thanks,
Shabina Bano
Score Foundation









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[AI] Fwd: HELLO - RENUKA

[Renuka Warriar Edakkunni]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Peeyush Jain 
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 14:27:14 +0530
Subject: HELLO - RENUKA
To: eren...@gmail.com

Renuka,



Hi... This is Peeyush from Jaipur, Rajasthan.  I came to know that you are
from Hyderabad and actively using assistive technology for Visually
Impaired.



I lost my eye sight before 1 year and struggling with IT gazzattes.  I am
going Hyderabad on 6th December and want to meet any person to consult on
this.

I shall feel oblized if you can give me contact detail ofany person or
institute, where I can meet and discuss on it





Thanx & Regards,

Peeyush Bardia

900209





This message was sent to me by Mr. Piyush.  But since I am not from
Hyderabad, I am unable to help him. If anyone from this list could
help him, please do it.

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Re: [AI] Indian Foreign Services-Visually Challenged

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
There used to be a blind person from the US embassy stationed in India.

This could be a reference point to work on.
Harish.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: 04 December 2013 21:58
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Indian Foreign Services-Visually Challenged

The doors of Indian Foreign service are open for a visually challanged
person. One has to qualify Civil services and have to give foreign
service as his first preference, there is no such bar that a VH
candidate cann't hold that office. Nonetheless for being successful in
this career one has to be proficient in good understanding of foreign
relations of India with other country and good knowledge of various
affairs between India and allocated country .

On 12/4/13, aishwarya pillai  wrote:
> Hi all,
> Can a visually challenged have a good career in Indian Foreign services?
> A friend of mine wants to pursue I F S.  But he does not know if that
> will be a right career for him.  He is presently doing his LLB.  Is
> there any one who has done I F S before. Please help!
> With regards,
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[AI] Etiquette: Interacting with PWD (Persons With Disability)

[Kotian, H P]

Friends
Got this interesting info from Mujtaba Merchant.
Read on
Harish Kotian
Forwarded info:


Etiquette: Interacting with PWD (Persons With Disability)

Introduction:

 This document is aimed to educate fellow employees on basic ethicate on the 
correct way to interact with people with disabilities. For many people, meeting 
someone in a wheelchair or with a significant disability creates an awkward 
moment when they are unsure how to behave.

 All content here has been compiled from various sources on the internet. A 
special mention and thanks to Richard C. Senelick, MD, neurologist, author, 
blogger and international speaker.

 Greeting Ethicate:

 What would you do when faced with someone with a paralyzed or missing right 
arm? Most people, even those with a prosthetic arm or hand, can shake hands. It 
is appropriate to use your left hand if the person cannot respond with their 
right hand. The disabled person will usually give you a cue by extending an arm 
or hand as best they can. It is best not to just go ahead and grab an arm that 
may turn out to be a painful experience for the person.

 The "good old buddy" pat on the back or shoulder is never appropriate behavior.

 Have you ever noticed that when you speak to someone who doesn't understand 
English that you tend to raise your voice, thinking that somehow shouting the 
words will rattle their brain into understanding? We do the same thing when we 
address people with disabilities. There is usually no need to raise your voice. 
However, when someone has a cognitive impairment it can help to slow down and 
speak clearly.

 Use their first name only if everyone else is being referred to by their first 
name. Better yet, ask for their preference.

 Treat the person as an adult. Don't patronize the individual because they have 
a physical or mental disability.

 Don't pat people in wheelchairs on the head or shoulder in place of a proper 
greeting. Sit down and make eye contact. This is critical! When you are seated 
in your office and someone enters, don't you usually stand up to greet them?

 Some people want help, others do not. It is acceptable to ask if you can get 
the door, pick up their canes or push their wheelchair. But don't feel hurt if 
your offer is declined and the person wishes to be independent.

 If you make contact with someone who is visually impaired, introduce yourself 
with your first & last name. A name like Tom and Kevin is easy for one to 
remember but for a person who has no visual cue it's challenging for them to 
remember or recall which Tom or which Kevin. Also try and associate your name 
with the department you work in, your designation or office location. For 
example, "Hi this is Jennifer Douglas, from the Health & Safety department on 
the 3rd floor. Do you need any assistance with the stairs?"

 If you have made contact with the visually impaired person more than once and 
probably you work in the same office or department you are not obligated to 
keep introducing yourself to the person. He/ She could guess who you are by 
your voice. And if there is any doubt be ready to be asked without being 
embarrassed "Sorry, who is this?"

 Conversational Etiquette:

 Always speak to the disabled individual directly and not through someone else. 
We will speak to family members and friends instead of addressing the person 
directly. Even if the person has a cognitive disability, their presence must be 
recognized and respected. People are individuals who happen to have 
disabilities and should not be addressed as third parties or objects in the 
room.

 When having a conversation with a person with a physical disability, use 
normal everyday language and relax. We can slip into an unpleasant and 
demeaning habit of speaking to the disabled person as if they were a child. You 
may have to make a physical accommodation, such as sitting down. Remember, the 
individual is otherwise no different than you.

 Most of us are poor listeners. When someone has a speech impairment, take your 
time and listen. Don't try to always finish their sentence. That can be 
difficult when you are in a hurry, but never to pretend to understand if you do 
not -- it is acceptable to say so.

 If the person has a visual impairment, identify yourself and let them know 
where you are what you intend to do.

 Do not use derogatory statements or phrases in your conversation with the 
individual. Even if they have a pun or humor to them.

 Don't apologize if you use an expression such as "I gotta run" or "See you 
later" that relates to the person's disability. These expressions are part of 
everyday language and it is likely the apology will be more offensive than the 
expression.

 Things to remember:

 Individuals with disabilities are people! Remember, he/she is a person, NOT a 
disability.

 They expect to be treated with the same dignity and respect that you do.

 Just because someone has a disability does not mean he/she is disabled.

 Look at

Re: [AI] considering addition to group guidelines

[Kotian, H P]

Dear Umesha
Thanks for bringing this out. This is essentially an email etiquette issue and 
it is upon each one of us to respect fellow members. Frankly, I don't want the 
guidelines to be very heavy and what we can do is that our mentors can engage 
with those persons. This is one of the small corrections which needs to be 
worked on. This is all done through private mail so, nobody should feel 
offended by it. One should take it in a positive spirit and one is expected  to 
respond accordingly.

I hope this is fine.
Harish.


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Sent: 05 December 2013 07:29
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] considering addition to group guidelines

Dear moderator and others,
I have changed the subject line to reflect the matter being discussed.
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moderator's mail ID.

Umesha

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From: "Varadhu Rajan" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:37 PM
Subject: [AI] Fwd: [Arkitect India] Fwd: Ask for Water Rights. Raise your
voice to stop the water privatization. No Water, No Vote! [2 Attachments]


-- Forwarded message --
From: Varadhu Rajan 
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:17:12 +0530
Subject: Fwd: [Arkitect India] Fwd: Ask for Water Rights. Raise your
voice to stop the water privatization. No Water, No Vote! [2
Attachments]
To: varadhurajan9898 

-- Forwarded message --
From: "sanaqvi ." 
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 15:40:18 +0530
Subject: [Arkitect India] Fwd: Ask for Water Rights. Raise your voice
to stop the water privatization. No Water, No Vote! [2 Attachments]
To: arkitectin...@yahoogroups.com

Dear Friends,



''The privatisation of water is a deliberate policy choice by the
government. We all believe that local communities are 'natural protectors
and sustainable users' of water; not its 'customers'. The privatization of
water is against the spirit of a welfare state, as enshrined in our
Constitution. Privatization of water leads to corruption and makes water a
profitable market commodity which we are experiencing in Delhi and others
parts of India where water has been privatized  leading to increased
financial burden in the form of high water bills for the end users ie. the
citizens. The Delhi Government is privatizing city's water supply to allow
corporate control over water through "Public-Private-Partnership" that will
lead to high water tariffs. It is clear that private corporations have no
ethical agenda to make water a 'social good', rather they have to "develop
markets" to make huge profits out of water.



All over the globe, the model of Privatisation has been miserably failed
and we see a  reversing trend  in privatisation, and re-municipalisation of
water services to regain public control in countries like France, Canada,
Germany, Hungary, Finland, Tanzania, Indonesia and Malaysia, while there is
a strong resistance to water privatization in different countries around
the world, e.g. in Italy, Portugal, Greece, Spain, Brazil and others.



We therefore appeal to you to raise your voice to stop the privatization
and commodification of water services in Delhi and strengthening of public
water services in Delhi.



Please find attached  the leaflet as part of our water manifesto and
circulate this widely, within your network and with people. If any  of you
are  interested in distributing this Parcha among voters/in your
neighborhood, please contact me on 9818065092 or send a mail.



Let us make our struggle for water democracy, a success. Right to water
flows with Right to Life.



*PANI NAHI TOH VOTE NAHI! NO VOTE WITHOUT WATER!*



Solidarity,



*S  A Naqvi*

National Coordinator

NPAWP

sana...@sify.com

np...@yahoo.com

09871449968



--
with kindness and smile
S. Varadharaj
Assistant Professor
Department of English
Shaheed Bhagat Singh College
University of Delhi
Sheik Sarai Phase 2
New Delhi 110017.
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Re: [AI] Delhi state election accessibility check

[Nirmal Verma]

We had many illeterate voters in mwarby booth so we told them to Go from
top to bottom and at certain no you have that particular symbol.

Nirmal
On Dec 5, 2013 5:45 AM, "Pranav Lal"  wrote:

> Hi Nirmal,
>
> How would you know where the number is on the EVM? Do you count from the
> left or the right or were there Braille markings?
>
> Pranav
>
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> Behalf
> Of Nirmal Verma
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 9:33 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Delhi state election accessibility check
>
> People following political party on social media knew at what number their
> symbols are in the evm in thw particular constituency.
> Nirmal
> On Dec 4, 2013 9:24 PM, "Viraj"  wrote:
>
> > I could locate the numbers in braille beside each buttons. But I think
> > they could be inscribed with more clarity.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On 04-Dec-2013, at 9:13 pm, "Pranav Lal"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Has anyone voted in the Delhi state election? If so, was there any
> > > accessible way to know which button to press on the eletronic voting
> > machine
> > > or EVM? I ask because I did not find it but I was in a hurry so may
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[AI] considering addition to group guidelines

[Umesha Economics]

Dear moderator and others,
I have changed the subject line to reflect the matter being discussed.
the trailing mail and many more in the list are forwarded mails. we the 
screen reader users face lot of problem in reading these mails. many a 
times, the original mail is recirculated and forwarded several times and to 
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useless text before getting the actual content. even surprising is the fact 
that some times people foreword from their same mail IDs. so, please 
consider the addition of a rule into the list guidelines demanding the 
posters to remove such forwarding text before posting to the list. since I 
feel the matter can be discussed among members, and learned members can 
express their opinions, I posted this to the list rather than sending to the 
moderator's mail ID.


Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "Varadhu Rajan" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:37 PM
Subject: [AI] Fwd: [Arkitect India] Fwd: Ask for Water Rights. Raise your 
voice to stop the water privatization. No Water, No Vote! [2 Attachments]



-- Forwarded message --
From: Varadhu Rajan 
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:17:12 +0530
Subject: Fwd: [Arkitect India] Fwd: Ask for Water Rights. Raise your
voice to stop the water privatization. No Water, No Vote! [2
Attachments]
To: varadhurajan9898 

-- Forwarded message --
From: "sanaqvi ." 
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 15:40:18 +0530
Subject: [Arkitect India] Fwd: Ask for Water Rights. Raise your voice
to stop the water privatization. No Water, No Vote! [2 Attachments]
To: arkitectin...@yahoogroups.com

Dear Friends,



''The privatisation of water is a deliberate policy choice by the
government. We all believe that local communities are ‘natural protectors
and sustainable users’ of water; not its ‘customers’. The privatization of
water is against the spirit of a welfare state, as enshrined in our
Constitution. Privatization of water leads to corruption and makes water a
profitable market commodity which we are experiencing in Delhi and others
parts of India where water has been privatized  leading to increased
financial burden in the form of high water bills for the end users ie. the
citizens. The Delhi Government is privatizing city’s water supply to allow
corporate control over water through “Public-Private-Partnership” that will
lead to high water tariffs. It is clear that private corporations have no
ethical agenda to make water a ‘social good’, rather they have to “develop
markets” to make huge profits out of water.



All over the globe, the model of Privatisation has been miserably failed
and we see a  reversing trend  in privatisation, and re-municipalisation of
water services to regain public control in countries like France, Canada,
Germany, Hungary, Finland, Tanzania, Indonesia and Malaysia, while there is
a strong resistance to water privatization in different countries around
the world, e.g. in Italy, Portugal, Greece, Spain, Brazil and others.



We therefore appeal to you to raise your voice to stop the privatization
and commodification of water services in Delhi and strengthening of public
water services in Delhi.



Please find attached  the leaflet as part of our water manifesto and
circulate this widely, within your network and with people. If any  of you
are  interested in distributing this Parcha among voters/in your
neighborhood, please contact me on 9818065092 or send a mail.



Let us make our struggle for water democracy, a success. Right to water
flows with Right to Life.



*PANI NAHI TOH VOTE NAHI! NO VOTE WITHOUT WATER!*



Solidarity,



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NPAWP

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[AI] : Not a disabled friendly electoral system

[Dr Satendra Singh]

Today's 'The Hindu' has covered the problems faced by disabled voters in
high-tech Delhi Elections.

Not a disabled friendly electoral system
5 December 2013

While it tried through media campaigns to improve the voter turnout for the
Delhi Assembly elections, a large number of persons with disability (PwDs)
were still unable to reach the polling booths — as they were not disabled
friendly — and could not exercise their franchise.

A case in point was that of Neeru Gautam, who works in the disability
sector with Sahyogi. A resident of Block 34 of West Patel Nagar, Ms. Gautam
decided to cast her vote by taking her power chair all the way to the
polling station in Block 26 Community Centre.

However, on reaching her polling booth, she realised there was no ramp to
enter and the entrance to the room was also blocked by a wooden pole which
had been put in the middle of the passage to segregate the incoming and
leaving voters.

“As my chair could not enter the room, I asked the election staff to come
out and help me cast my vote. But despite repeated pleas, no one came
forward. Then one person offered to lift me physically, which I refused
outright and I came back without casting my vote,” she rued.

Ms. Gautam incidentally had been voting in every election. “Earlier, I had
a helper who would take me inside the booth but ever since I became
independent due to my power chair, I have not felt the need for one. The
Election Commission should have ensured ramps and barrier-free access for
the PwDs in this election.”

Some PwDs also vented their anger on social networking sites. Abha
Khetarpal, a wheelchair user and president of NGO Cross the Hurdles, wrote
on the Facebook page of Dr. Satendra Singh, Coordinator with the Enabling
Unit of the Equal Opportunity Cell of the University College of Medical
Sciences, how polling booth number A-28 in Subhash Nagar, where she had to
cast her vote, had no ramps for wheelchair users and no Braille stickers.

She commented: “So, in this politics of vote bank, polling stations are
inaccessible. How can this be called government of the people, by the
people and for the people?”

Ms. Khetarpal also noted the media often asks for proof about such
shortcomings in the electoral system. “But taking pictures is not allowed —
a disabled system indeed.”

For his part, Dr. Singh said: “I haven’t seen any attempts on the part of
the Election Commission to publicise voting facilities for the disabled.
There is no information on radio or media. However, kudos to the EC Delhi
to finally make their website accessible to visually impaired. Sadly, EC’s
website is still inaccessible.”

Despite the heavy odds, some PwD voters remained determined to cast their
vote. Virender Kalra, a bank manager and a resident of Subhash Nagar, was
one of them. When he found there was no ramp for his wheelchair to climb
on, he got two persons to lift him and take him inside the polling booth.
“I was determined to vote and did so to play my role in ensuring a healthy
democracy,” he said.


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Re: [AI] can we get handicap certificate, best bus pass, st bus pass, online in mumbai?

[austin pinto]

can i register on my own from home?

On 12/5/13, Amjad Ahmed Fitwala  wrote:
> Sir,
>
> The registration of Online Disability Certificate has been started in
> Sir. J. J. Hospital, Mumbai and Civil Hospital in Thane. You have to
> carry the photo-copies of ration card, proof of your birth and aadhaar
> card along with original documents for verification.
>
> The Concession pass of BEST and ST is not available online so far in
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> social welfare department or the nearest office of NGOs those are
> working for the visually impaired. Hope this helps.
>
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>> hi all I don't know if this is real or how to do this but people today
>> told me in train that if we have old handicap certificate and require
>> a new 1 we can get it online? in this certificate there will be our
>> photo also.
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>> told that we can get b.e.s.t and st bus pass online?
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Re: [AI] Delhi state election accessibility check

[Pranav Lal]

Hi Nirmal,

How would you know where the number is on the EVM? Do you count from the
left or the right or were there Braille markings?

Pranav

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Subject: Re: [AI] Delhi state election accessibility check

People following political party on social media knew at what number their
symbols are in the evm in thw particular constituency.
Nirmal
On Dec 4, 2013 9:24 PM, "Viraj"  wrote:

> I could locate the numbers in braille beside each buttons. But I think
> they could be inscribed with more clarity.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Has anyone voted in the Delhi state election? If so, was there any
> > accessible way to know which button to press on the eletronic voting
> machine
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Re: [AI] can we get handicap certificate, best bus pass, st bus pass, online in mumbai?

[Amjad Ahmed Fitwala]

Sir,

The registration of Online Disability Certificate has been started in
Sir. J. J. Hospital, Mumbai and Civil Hospital in Thane. You have to
carry the photo-copies of ration card, proof of your birth and aadhaar
card along with original documents for verification.

The Concession pass of BEST and ST is not available online so far in
Mumbai as they are under progress. You have to visit at the office of
social welfare department or the nearest office of NGOs those are
working for the visually impaired. Hope this helps.

On 12/4/13, austin pinto  wrote:
> hi all I don't know if this is real or how to do this but people today
> told me in train that if we have old handicap certificate and require
> a new 1 we can get it online? in this certificate there will be our
> photo also.
> if any1 knows how can we do this can u please guide me? also people
> told that we can get b.e.s.t and st bus pass online?
>
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[AI] Strange problem

[CVM]

Dear Friends,
 
I am using windows 7 64 bit with MS 2007. When I open any folder in my
laptop, it takes 2-3 minutes time to open, I also checked my antivirus
setting but all is fine. Now I don't know that how to solve this problem.
 
Please help.
 
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Re: [AI] Indian Foreign Services-Visually Challenged

[Mohib Anwar Rafel]

The doors of Indian Foreign service are open for a visually challanged
person. One has to qualify Civil services and have to give foreign
service as his first preference, there is no such bar that a VH
candidate cann't hold that office. Nonetheless for being successful in
this career one has to be proficient in good understanding of foreign
relations of India with other country and good knowledge of various
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> Can a visually challenged have a good career in Indian Foreign services?
> A friend of mine wants to pursue I F S.  But he does not know if that
> will be a right career for him.  He is presently doing his LLB.  Is
> there any one who has done I F S before. Please help!
> With regards,
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Re: [AI] Delhi state election accessibility check

[Nirmal Verma]

People following political party on social media knew at what number their
symbols are in the evm in thw particular constituency.
Nirmal
On Dec 4, 2013 9:24 PM, "Viraj"  wrote:

> I could locate the numbers in braille beside each buttons. But I think
> they could be inscribed with more clarity.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 04-Dec-2013, at 9:13 pm, "Pranav Lal"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
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> > accessible way to know which button to press on the eletronic voting
> machine
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> > missed something.
> >
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> >
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Re: [AI] Delhi state election accessibility check

[Viraj]

I could locate the numbers in braille beside each buttons. But I think they 
could be inscribed with more clarity. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 04-Dec-2013, at 9:13 pm, "Pranav Lal"  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Has anyone voted in the Delhi state election? If so, was there any
> accessible way to know which button to press on the eletronic voting machine
> or EVM? I ask because I did not find it but I was in a hurry so may have
> missed something.
> 
> Pranav
> 
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Re: [AI] Delhi state election accessibility check

[Amit Pahuja]

i did vote today. sadly there was no accessible way to know which button to
press on the electronic voting machine.



On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Pranav Lal  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Has anyone voted in the Delhi state election? If so, was there any
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[AI] Delhi state election accessibility check

[Pranav Lal]

Hi all,

Has anyone voted in the Delhi state election? If so, was there any
accessible way to know which button to press on the eletronic voting machine
or EVM? I ask because I did not find it but I was in a hurry so may have
missed something.

Pranav



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[AI] Social Media Networking Hands On Workshop

[Sushmeetha]

Do you know the importance of being socially active on the internet?

Friends on Facebook and Followers on Twitter = your latest lookout?

Worried about the increasing online privacy cases on Social networking
sites?


Voice Vision is organizing a knowledge come working session on effective
communication on the different social networking platforms on December 22,
2013 at the Umedbhai Patel English School, Malad, Mumbai.

The very need to be omnipresent, functionality of the platforms (Facebook
and Twitter), and the available options to keep the online and social
identity safe and secure would be discussed.

Please find below more details of the event:
Date: Sunday, 22nd December 2013.
   Time: 10:00 am to 5:30 PM. Registration begins at 9:30 AM.
   Venue: Room Number 12, Umedbhai Patel English School, Sunder Nagar,
S. V. Road, Malad West, Mumbai 400064.
   Registration fee: Rs. 200 per participant. (includes refreshments)
   Age group: 15 years and above.
   Mandatory Criteria: Having a mobile phone with internet & data pack
enabled or subscribed.
   Schedule:
1.  Introduction to Face Book & Twitter.
2.  How to network safely.

For registration:
   Fill the form at http://www.voicevision.in/content/registration-form
   Phone: +9122 4040 & speak to Mr. Prakash Dalvi / Ms. Sushmeetha
B. Bubna or
   Email  us at cont...@voicevision.in

Limited seats, please hurry up your registration

We request you to disseminate this information among your friends, family,
associates or similar community organisations and aid us in spreading the
awareness. 

Note: Participants are required to carry Mobile handsets with internet plan
or data pack enabled or subscribed, since the session will have theoretical
and practical components.
 
Disclaimer: 
 Availability of internet connectivity, enabling the data transfer,
enabling any feature shall be beyond the scope of Voice Vision, its members,
trainers, volunteers etc.

Best Regards,
Sushmeetha B. Bubna │ Founder Director 
 
Voice Vision
103, Synthofine Estate,' A'- Wing, Off Aarey Road, Goregaon (E), Mumbai -
400 063.
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Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes
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[AI] Indian Foreign Services-Visually Challenged

[aishwarya pillai]

Hi all,
Can a visually challenged have a good career in Indian Foreign services?
A friend of mine wants to pursue I F S.  But he does not know if that
will be a right career for him.  He is presently doing his LLB.  Is
there any one who has done I F S before. Please help!
With regards,
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[AI] Moderator: RE: modern analysis of the play tempest

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All

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Traffic is closed.

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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Varadhu Rajan
Sent: 04 December 2013 16:44
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: [AI] modern analysis of the play tempest

-- Forwarded message --
From: Varadhu Rajan 
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 16:30:31 +0530
Subject: Fwd: [englishteachers_du] Abstract sent to Shakespeare Society of India
To: varadhurajan9898 

-- Forwarded message --
From: Vandita Gautam 
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 19:15:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [englishteachers_du] Abstract sent to Shakespeare Society of India
To: "englishteachers...@yahoogroups.com" 
Cc: "vasantsharmad...@gmail.com" 



hai friends, read and enjoy this analysis of tempest.
The Tempest- A Banana Republic
Dr. Vandita Gautam
Associate Professor, Dept. of English
Motilal Nehru College (University of Delhi)
William Shakespeare is at his enigmatic best in The Tempest. The play
is a miasma of subtle interpretations which verberate in tandem to the
diachronic slant of the reader-critic. One common denominator that
underscores the variety of criticism on the play is its inter-racial
inflection. This paper will explore the dynamics of slavery and
cultural shifts in the play which lead the dramatist to a guilt-ridden
conclusion that cultures are universally complicit in creating social
tragedies, no matter how missionary their stance.
Our first and foremost cue to the conflictual nature of The Tempest is
its name and setting. The play’s setting is a desolate island
discovered by chance. The landscape of this island is rough where
caves and grottos abound. The immediate climate setting of the play is
tropical marine. The weather of the island is very varied: sunshine,
snow, rains and tempests abound. A close reading of the flora and
fauna of the play clearly cues us to the region, which is in all
probability, the Americas – the New World recently discovered. The
Tempest is set in Central and upper South America, i.e. Mexico and the
Caribbeans, imaginatively limned by Shakespeare who had read the
travelogues of the contemporary voyagers and mariners. It is by design
that the island Prospero makes his home is inhabited by a witch from
Algiers -Sycorax, and her son whom Prospero aptly namesCaliban.
Sycorax is a moon worshipper, which connects her to Mexico since in
Nahuatl
 language, Mēxihco translates to navel of the moon. Caliban is clearly
a derivative of the Kalinago or Carib people from Lesser Antilles in
the Caribbean Sea. The Caribs are of African, American Indian and
mixed ethnicity. Prospero’s daughter is aptly namedMiranda. In Latin
mirandus means alternatively, ‘she who must be admired’ and a
‘watchtower’ or a ‘vantage point’. In 1519 the Spaniard, Hernán Cortés
arrived in Mexico where war and small pox ravaged the natives but left
the conquering Europeans unharmed. The Mexicans took this as a miracle
and there was mass conversion to Christianity. European perception of
their selves was messianic at its colonial best. ‘Miranda’ has ominous
overtones – the young lass symbolises the New World which holds
enormous potential for Europe but is a beacon to future crisis since
colonisation howsoever gloved with the zeal to civilize will involve
dispossession, displacement and
 manslaughter. Ariel, the wind sprite who is promised conditional
freedom is clearly a Native American Indian exploited by the
Europeans. Ariel’s appearance as a Harpy re-affirms this since Harpy
eagles are mainly found in Central America.
The Tempest is a cultural chiaroscuro where Shakespeare paints complex
characters in an ambiguous setting. The play is a dark comedy with a
baffling beginning and  a charismatic ending. The play begins with a
discussion on 'Utopia' laced with paradoxes; the end is dystopian -
the  protagonist hurls the craft of his passion and vocation, his
magic wand, into the deep sea. This final act impounds Prospero’s
nobility and his magic to witchcraft. The play plays with cultural
sensibilities and questions our societal status quo which lets us be
complacent and above the guilty parley all cultures acquiesce to.


--
with kindness and smile
S. Varadharaj
Assistant Professor
Department of English
Shaheed Bhagat Singh College
University of Delhi
Sheik Sarai Phase 2
New Delhi 110017.
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[AI] modern analysis of the play tempest

[Varadhu Rajan]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Varadhu Rajan 
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 16:30:31 +0530
Subject: Fwd: [englishteachers_du] Abstract sent to Shakespeare Society of India
To: varadhurajan9898 

-- Forwarded message --
From: Vandita Gautam 
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2013 19:15:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [englishteachers_du] Abstract sent to Shakespeare Society of India
To: "englishteachers...@yahoogroups.com" 
Cc: "vasantsharmad...@gmail.com" 



hai friends, read and enjoy this analysis of tempest.
The Tempest- A Banana Republic
Dr. Vandita Gautam
Associate Professor, Dept. of English
Motilal Nehru College (University of Delhi)
William Shakespeare is at his enigmatic best in The Tempest. The play
is a miasma of subtle interpretations which verberate in tandem to the
diachronic slant of the reader-critic. One common denominator that
underscores the variety of criticism on the play is its inter-racial
inflection. This paper will explore the dynamics of slavery and
cultural shifts in the play which lead the dramatist to a guilt-ridden
conclusion that cultures are universally complicit in creating social
tragedies, no matter how missionary their stance.
Our first and foremost cue to the conflictual nature of The Tempest is
its name and setting. The play’s setting is a desolate island
discovered by chance. The landscape of this island is rough where
caves and grottos abound. The immediate climate setting of the play is
tropical marine. The weather of the island is very varied: sunshine,
snow, rains and tempests abound. A close reading of the flora and
fauna of the play clearly cues us to the region, which is in all
probability, the Americas – the New World recently discovered. The
Tempest is set in Central and upper South America, i.e. Mexico and the
Caribbeans, imaginatively limned by Shakespeare who had read the
travelogues of the contemporary voyagers and mariners. It is by design
that the island Prospero makes his home is inhabited by a witch from
Algiers -Sycorax, and her son whom Prospero aptly namesCaliban.
Sycorax is a moon worshipper, which connects her to Mexico since in
Nahuatl
 language, Mēxihco translates to navel of the moon. Caliban is clearly
a derivative of the Kalinago or Carib people from Lesser Antilles in
the Caribbean Sea. The Caribs are of African, American Indian and
mixed ethnicity. Prospero’s daughter is aptly namedMiranda. In Latin
mirandus means alternatively, ‘she who must be admired’ and a
‘watchtower’ or a ‘vantage point’. In 1519 the Spaniard, Hernán Cortés
arrived in Mexico where war and small pox ravaged the natives but left
the conquering Europeans unharmed. The Mexicans took this as a miracle
and there was mass conversion to Christianity. European perception of
their selves was messianic at its colonial best. ‘Miranda’ has ominous
overtones – the young lass symbolises the New World which holds
enormous potential for Europe but is a beacon to future crisis since
colonisation howsoever gloved with the zeal to civilize will involve
dispossession, displacement and
 manslaughter. Ariel, the wind sprite who is promised conditional
freedom is clearly a Native American Indian exploited by the
Europeans. Ariel’s appearance as a Harpy re-affirms this since Harpy
eagles are mainly found in Central America.
The Tempest is a cultural chiaroscuro where Shakespeare paints complex
characters in an ambiguous setting. The play is a dark comedy with a
baffling beginning and  a charismatic ending. The play begins with a
discussion on 'Utopia' laced with paradoxes; the end is dystopian -
the  protagonist hurls the craft of his passion and vocation, his
magic wand, into the deep sea. This final act impounds Prospero’s
nobility and his magic to witchcraft. The play plays with cultural
sensibilities and questions our societal status quo which lets us be
complacent and above the guilty parley all cultures acquiesce to.


-- 
with kindness and smile
S. Varadharaj
Assistant Professor
Department of English
Shaheed Bhagat Singh College
University of Delhi
Sheik Sarai Phase 2
New Delhi 110017.
mobile no. (0) 9871926764.


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[AI] Fwd: [Arkitect India] Fwd: Ask for Water Rights. Raise your voice to stop the water privatization. No Water, No Vote! [2 Attachments]

[Varadhu Rajan]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Varadhu Rajan 
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 09:17:12 +0530
Subject: Fwd: [Arkitect India] Fwd: Ask for Water Rights. Raise your
voice to stop the water privatization. No Water, No Vote! [2
Attachments]
To: varadhurajan9898 

-- Forwarded message --
From: "sanaqvi ." 
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 15:40:18 +0530
Subject: [Arkitect India] Fwd: Ask for Water Rights. Raise your voice
to stop the water privatization. No Water, No Vote! [2 Attachments]
To: arkitectin...@yahoogroups.com

Dear Friends,



''The privatisation of water is a deliberate policy choice by the
government. We all believe that local communities are ‘natural protectors
and sustainable users’ of water; not its ‘customers’. The privatization of
water is against the spirit of a welfare state, as enshrined in our
Constitution. Privatization of water leads to corruption and makes water a
profitable market commodity which we are experiencing in Delhi and others
parts of India where water has been privatized  leading to increased
financial burden in the form of high water bills for the end users ie. the
citizens. The Delhi Government is privatizing city’s water supply to allow
corporate control over water through “Public-Private-Partnership” that will
lead to high water tariffs. It is clear that private corporations have no
ethical agenda to make water a ‘social good’, rather they have to “develop
markets” to make huge profits out of water.



All over the globe, the model of Privatisation has been miserably failed
and we see a  reversing trend  in privatisation, and re-municipalisation of
water services to regain public control in countries like France, Canada,
Germany, Hungary, Finland, Tanzania, Indonesia and Malaysia, while there is
a strong resistance to water privatization in different countries around
the world, e.g. in Italy, Portugal, Greece, Spain, Brazil and others.



We therefore appeal to you to raise your voice to stop the privatization
and commodification of water services in Delhi and strengthening of public
water services in Delhi.



Please find attached  the leaflet as part of our water manifesto and
circulate this widely, within your network and with people. If any  of you
are  interested in distributing this Parcha among voters/in your
neighborhood, please contact me on 9818065092 or send a mail.



Let us make our struggle for water democracy, a success. Right to water
flows with Right to Life.



*PANI NAHI TOH VOTE NAHI! NO VOTE WITHOUT WATER!*



Solidarity,



*S  A Naqvi*

National Coordinator

NPAWP

sana...@sify.com

np...@yahoo.com

09871449968



-- 
with kindness and smile
S. Varadharaj
Assistant Professor
Department of English
Shaheed Bhagat Singh College
University of Delhi
Sheik Sarai Phase 2
New Delhi 110017.
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Re: [AI] ALT Software

[Umesha Economics]

where can we get it? is it a free software or a paid software? the web site 
does not contain this information.


Umesha

- Original Message - 
From: "Rahul Bajaj" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 12:30 AM
Subject: [AI] ALT Software



Hello Everyone,

I hope this message finds you well.
I just came across this wonderful software application called ALT. It
essentially allows you to perform routine tasks in a quicker and more
efficient manner. It also allows you to customize your screen reader
as per your requirements. This can be very useful.
You can find more information about this application at
http://u-r-able.com/alt

Has anyone here used this application?
Would love to read your feedback.

Best,
Rahul

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[AI] job alert from eyeway

[Eyeway Helpdesk]

Hi all,

Two job alerts are given below from eyeway

1. One post as Officer Scale-I and one post as Office Assistant
(Multipurpose) for V.I. in J & K Grameen Bank. Those who have been
declared qualifiied at the Online CWE for RRBs conducted by IBPS
during September/ October 2013, can apply. Qualification: Degree in
any discipline from a recognized University or its equivalent. Also
need Proficiency in local language. The interview will be held at
Jammu/ Srinagar centres.  Last date 12th December. More at
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=jobs or 30 November employment News page 4

2. Required Manager (Hindi) and Hindi Translator in Central
Warehousing Corporation, Delhi. Qualification: For Manager- (Hindi)
Master's degree of a recognized University or equivalent in Hindi with
English as a subject at the degree level. For Hindi Translator:
Master’s degree of a recognized University in Hindi/English with
English/Hindi as a main subject at the degree level.  V.I. can apply.
Last date 14th January. More at http://www.eyeway.org/?q=jobs

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Re: [AI] NEED SCRIBER GUIDE LINES FOR SLET/NET EXAMS urgently

[Umesha Economics]

Hi Pallavi,
in which University you are taking the exam? don't you have the recent MSJE 
guidelines on exams and scribe? please get it from the ministry's web site. 
if you need any clarification/assistance, please contact me off the list or 
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- Original Message - 
From: "Pallavi SJ" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] NEED SCRIBER GUIDE LINES FOR SLET/NET EXAMS urgently



i didn't get anything on my inbox!!! to which mail have u sent?

On 12/3/13, Yogesh Chhabra  wrote:

check your inbox

On 12/2/13, Pallavi SJ  wrote:

Hello friends, i need the scribe guide lines for SLET/NET exams. as my
university has rejected a scriber whom i took and is also demanding me
to get a letter from the principal of my scriber's college to certify
that, the scriber has studied from that college. They are also forcing
me of taking another scriber than i selected...

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[AI] Moderator: RE: Deaf, mute dalit widow molested by caste Hindu trio in Thoothukudi

[Kotian, H P]

Friends

I wonder what is wrong with you guys. Despite closing this off-topic thread and 
again reuttering that action is being taken, still why this thread is continued 
and forcing me to add more to the list

Please again, do not make any more comment on this thread.

This thread continues to be closed.

Harish Kotian
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
ishita kapoor
Sent: 04 December 2013 14:35
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Deaf, mute dalit widow molested by caste Hindu trio in 
Thoothukudi

now you people have start blaming rss for horable situation for disabled.
i am afraid this logic will not take you anywhere.

On 12/4/13, jignesh thakur  wrote:
> Avinash how Gujarat came in discussion?
> Here discussion was regarding disable and Hinduism.
> I can understand your extreme love for Gujarat and I thank you for
> that. But keep it for some Gujarat oriented debate
> If a disable person is good in singing then what is wrong if rss use
> him or her in that profession.
> Please understand all disable are not jnu scholars.
> Some of them are only good in singing so let them sing bhajans in
> stead of bagging.
> To give them job in jnu is not in the capacity of rss.
>
>
> On 12/3/13, P Subramani  wrote:
>> studies of disabilities and disabled persons on castelines is in
>> itself illogical and unscientific, v disabled persons must b above
>> such faulty lines as castes and religions have neverever favoraly
>> treated us,  the so called disableds are xploited by such groups,
>> media has its own agenda and they come up with such catchy  items and
>> headlines, disableds r disableds v do not belong to any caste r
>> religion as v  neither get  benefits of castes r religions unlike the
>> able bodyed,  rather than being united and fighting for more rights
>> and benefits, v r fighting among selves, exposing our weakness
>>
>> On 12/3/13, muruganandan.k  wrote:
>>> Mr. Avichal Bhatnagar, well, RSS has no other way to mobalize people
>>> and claim them all as Hindus. This strong Brahminical hold in the
>>> disability sector has been the root-cause of the disabled mass not
>>> getting organized and politicized as in the west. Those you say to be
>>> serving the disabled decide what to read for a blind, what not to
>>> read, and even what to identify with. So, the service of RSS, if any,
>>> is only its part of its effort to mobalize people and keep them a part
>>> of Hinduism. This mobalization tactis in fact works better in
>>> gathering people into Kara Seva.
>>> coming to your second point, one must be against any form of violence
>>> against anyone. But it is ridiculous to say that the affense against
>>> an oppressed section is not more severe than the normal instance. Will
>>> you treat the killing of a strong man and that of a meek child equal?
>>> and, what do you really mean when you say that media must show the
>>> "OTHER SIDE"?
>>>
>>> slogans 30-32 say that the four Varna of people were born from Brahma
>>> according to their due place in the hierarchy. Please cite evidence
>>> for proving the Varnas were based on colour. Please refer any
>>> anthropological peace on the caste system. Its not mere labour
>>> division, but a structured hierarchy in which one's societal position
>>> is determined by birth.
>>>
>>> I think it is not proper to reply in this plotform for your comic
>>> assertion of saints working for caste abolition.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/3/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
 Though I adhered the Moderator's call and stopped responding few days
 back.
 But Here you have brought in an interesting aspect to a discussion
 which is very fruitful if we carry on...
 Please site sources how RSS is helping disabled in profound manner?
 By taking them to sing songs and bhajans/keertans in temples...
 And I must inform you one of the activists has filed RTI in Gujarat to
 ascertain that how many disabled have been employed in State's public
 sectors since Mr Modi is the CM. Wait for the outcome provided
 they supply right info!
 On 12/3/13, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> Absolutely false!
> For your info, RSS is helping the disabled in the most profound
> manner.
> And I must mention that RSS is strictly against the caste system.
> If a dalit disabled is exploited, its wrong, but if an upper caste
> disabled is exploited, its not that bad after all, isn't it?
> I agree, that dalit disabled are facing more challenges as compaired
> to others, but that doesn't make attrocities commited on them of a
> more severe nature.
> If the media is really keen on highlighting the so called "caste
> inequality", then why doesn't it have guts to show the other side as
> well?
> I am writing this because Hinduism as a whole has been criticised,
> which is totally unexceptab

[AI] problem with windows 7 p e help me please!!!!!!!

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

hai dear friends, hope all are fine.

as the subject says, iam having problem with my windows 7 p e boottable 
USD.


the problem iam facing is, there is no sound after booting from this USD 
through my bios.


NVDA is coming, and  we also getting the interface like our windows 7 
desktop, but no sound atall.


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[AI] problem with windows 7 p e help me please!!!!!!!

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

problem with windows 7 p  e help me please!!!
hai dear friends, hope all are fine.

as the subject says, iam having problem with my windows 7 p e boottable 
USD.


the problem iam facing is, there is no sound after booting from this USD 
through my bios.


NVDA is coming, and  we also getting the interface like our windows 7 
desktop, but no sound atall.


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Timy.


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[AI] problem with windows 7 p e help me please!!!!!!!

[timy sebastian ettumanoor]

hai dear friends, hope all are fine.

as the subject says, iam having problem with my windows 7 p e boottable 
USD.


the problem iam facing is, there is no sound after booting from this USD 
through my bios.


NVDA is coming, and  we also getting the interface like our windows 7 
desktop, but no sound atall.


iam using windows 7 ultimate 32 bit and my motherboard is asoos.

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Timy.


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Re: [AI] Deaf, mute dalit widow molested by caste Hindu trio in Thoothukudi

[ishita kapoor]

now you people have start blaming rss for horable situation for disabled.
i am afraid this logic will not take you anywhere.

On 12/4/13, jignesh thakur  wrote:
> Avinash how Gujarat came in discussion?
> Here discussion was regarding disable and Hinduism.
> I can understand your extreme love for Gujarat and I thank you for
> that. But keep it for some Gujarat oriented debate
> If a disable person is good in singing then what is wrong if rss use
> him or her in that profession.
> Please understand all disable are not jnu scholars.
> Some of them are only good in singing so let them sing bhajans in
> stead of bagging.
> To give them job in jnu is not in the capacity of rss.
>
>
> On 12/3/13, P Subramani  wrote:
>> studies of disabilities and disabled persons on castelines is in
>> itself illogical and unscientific, v disabled persons must b above
>> such faulty lines as castes and religions have neverever favoraly
>> treated us,  the so called disableds are xploited by such groups,
>> media has its own agenda and they come up with such catchy  items and
>> headlines, disableds r disableds v do not belong to any caste r
>> religion as v  neither get  benefits of castes r religions unlike the
>> able bodyed,  rather than being united and fighting for more rights
>> and benefits, v r fighting among selves, exposing our weakness
>>
>> On 12/3/13, muruganandan.k  wrote:
>>> Mr. Avichal Bhatnagar, well, RSS has no other way to mobalize people
>>> and claim them all as Hindus. This strong Brahminical hold in the
>>> disability sector has been the root-cause of the disabled mass not
>>> getting organized and politicized as in the west. Those you say to be
>>> serving the disabled decide what to read for a blind, what not to
>>> read, and even what to identify with. So, the service of RSS, if any,
>>> is only its part of its effort to mobalize people and keep them a part
>>> of Hinduism. This mobalization tactis in fact works better in
>>> gathering people into Kara Seva.
>>> coming to your second point, one must be against any form of violence
>>> against anyone. But it is ridiculous to say that the affense against
>>> an oppressed section is not more severe than the normal instance. Will
>>> you treat the killing of a strong man and that of a meek child equal?
>>> and, what do you really mean when you say that media must show the
>>> "OTHER SIDE"?
>>>
>>> slogans 30-32 say that the four Varna of people were born from Brahma
>>> according to their due place in the hierarchy. Please cite evidence
>>> for proving the Varnas were based on colour. Please refer any
>>> anthropological peace on the caste system. Its not mere labour
>>> division, but a structured hierarchy in which one's societal position
>>> is determined by birth.
>>>
>>> I think it is not proper to reply in this plotform for your comic
>>> assertion of saints working for caste abolition.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/3/13, avinash shahi  wrote:
 Though I adhered the Moderator's call and stopped responding few days
 back.
 But Here you have brought in an interesting aspect to a discussion
 which is very fruitful if we carry on...
 Please site sources how RSS is helping disabled in profound manner?
 By taking them to sing songs and bhajans/keertans in temples...
 And I must inform you one of the activists has filed RTI in Gujarat to
 ascertain that how many disabled have been employed in State's public
 sectors since Mr Modi is the CM. Wait for the outcome provided
 they supply right info!
 On 12/3/13, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> Absolutely false!
> For your info, RSS is helping the disabled in the most profound
> manner.
> And I must mention that RSS is strictly against the caste system.
> If a dalit disabled is exploited, its wrong, but if an upper caste
> disabled is exploited, its not that bad after all, isn't it?
> I agree, that dalit disabled are facing more challenges as compaired
> to others, but that doesn't make attrocities commited on them of a
> more severe nature.
> If the media is really keen on highlighting the so called "caste
> inequality", then why doesn't it have guts to show the other side as
> well?
> I am writing this because Hinduism as a whole has been criticised,
> which is totally unexceptable.
> The molesters are criminals, and the sufferers are the victims.
> Why is the identity of other disabled victims and their culprets not
> revealed if it is the case?
> The gods of Hinduism have always enlightened the society about the
> caste
> system.
> Even the saints are working in the same direction.
> And as it is said, half knowledge is more dangerous than having no
> knowledge at all.
> Hinduism describes the 4 Varnas, and not 4 castes.
> These Varnas were based on skin colour.
> Later, they became based on occupation.
> How can Hinduism be criticised for the mistake of the society?
>