Re: [AI] Moderator: multiple posts, RE: JAWS makes irrittating voice with each dialogue

2014-05-19 Thread Pallavi SJ
Hello sir,
Pls also stop just giving simple replies of same kind like to contact
someone without knowing the solution. pasting same message of someone
for all postings will also hinder our other list members from
providing solutions, as this same message will dominate all the
postings and the intension of the poster to get solution will be left
at nil position... There are many people on this list those are
expertised in their respective fields and matters. So, please let them
also get their turn to help the access indians. A uniform and
monotonous posting of telling to contact a single person for all
problems also will not allow the next reader to find the real subject
line immediately, as this message will be in the very beginning
itself.
Please give caution in this matter sir.

On 5/16/14, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 All
 He has been put on moderated mode. Despite warning him, there is no change
 in his postings.
 This thread is now closed
 Harish.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of vatsal shah
 Sent: 16 May 2014 15:21
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] JAWS makes irrittating voice with each dialogue

 hi i am vatsal shah from baroda, gujarat.please contact my sir bharat
 vaya.he is genious and will guide you properly.i dont want to waste your
 time.i use to take online computer tutions as well as personal tutions.his e
 mail i.d is bharatv...@gmail.com.he has been transferred so i dont know his
 phone number or mobile number.sorry for inconvenience.you can give him my
 reference.my e mail i.d is vatsal2...@gmail.com and mobile number is
 09638059449.sorry for not helping you cent percent.
   - Original Message -
   From: Mujeeb Rahman
   To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
   Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 3:57 PM
   Subject: [AI] JAWS makes irrittating voice with each dialogue


   Please ignore this mail if it has already been reached.

   Dear All,

   Hope you are doing good!

   Well, after receiving a good response to my previous posting, I have
   been started using JAWS with a Dongle.

   Now it made me write again, on my Windows XP machine where I use
   JAWS13, JAWS is making a noise something like repeating the option
   again after reading the things which I cannot tolerate in any way.
   Despite quitting, uninstalling and reinstalling JAWS, the problem is
   still persisting.

   My fellow members are requested to point out the real reason and
   solution for this issue. I hope it would be answered at the earliest
   as always.

   Note: Though it is licensed up to 15, I wanted to explore with JAWS13
   for number of reasons.



   Thanking you
   Kind Regards,

   Mujeeb



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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-19 Thread Shadab Husain
Friends, Kanchan ma'am have always been of great help to me, she is
just like my elder sister and the moderator must demand apology from
Kasia or remove him from the list. (I am polite to say that he must
apologise.) It is very unfortunate that Kanchan ma'am has to waste her
important time because of that person. Moderator I am very upset by
the disgust spewed on the list, and have wasted time reading all the
emails on this important topic which was not so important for me
because I saw your email. The level of Access India has fallen very
low. Poor. Moderator will you always remain polite with ridiculous
people? Access India is a nice list, I have made many good friends
here, but forgiveness will convert it to garbage. Weed out the
dead-wood forthwith.



On 5/19/14, payal payal.thereside...@gmail.com wrote:
 Unfounded spouting of venom is really something we can do without on this
 list. Unfortunately we don't have any defamation clauses on this list.
 A member out of nowhere decides he/she can say whatever they choose about a
 member of longstanding repute is not only unfortunate but also uncalled
 for.

 I agree with the rest when they say this information should be expunged
 with
 sufficient action taken against persons like this to ensure name calling
 and
 venom spouting is kept out.
 What Kanchan has done, is known to most on this list here. no action was
 taken on an earlier occasion when things were said in  unsavoury manner
 too.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 10:06 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Strainge it is.

 Kanchan had been composed and civil iin her reply and Kasia is going
 on and on for nothing.

 Kasia, if you had any problem with Kanchan, you should have sent her a
 private mail instead of writing on the list. You accuse Kanchan of
 something on some hearsay and you expect she shouldn't respond to you
 on the list? how bizzarre is that.

 I am the testimony as to how Kanchan had helped me and there are so
 many others like me I am sure.

 Kasia, you must apologise.

 Harish, please interveen in the matter.

 On 5/19/14, li...@srinivasu.org li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Kasia,
 I can write at least hundred good things that Kanchan has done and helped
 community inspire legal is her core profession. Can you have point me ten
 good things that you have done to help people on this list. I would
 suggest
 ease make best use of the list and if you can't, this is not the right
 forum
 for you.

 Regards,
 Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
 Sent from my iPhone 5C

 On 19-May-2014, at 6:08, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:

 O wow, backing up? Do whatever you like. But analyse first whether she's
 a
 lawyer or a liar. She may be a famous person as per this list. But with
 her
 fake fantacies.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of akhilesh
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:54 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Dear Kasia,
 if you can mind your language please?
 Advocate kanchan pamnani has contributed a lot for this society, and we
 know
 it  well and experienced it first hand. Some vested interests from Radio
 udaan have blabbering about her on the list and you have believe them
 without any research.  hmm?
 Learn to talk first and then comment..  she is the respectable member of
 this list and also of this society.

 On 5/18/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My suggestion is
 that don't go for heresay thingies. The person who accused Kanchan
 made a statement on a radio, which is not to be relied upon as he
 didn't have any solid evidence to support it. It might be possible
 that Kanchan Pamnani said something else and he tainted the her
 statement. It would be in public interest if baseless allegations are
 not to be relied upon. You are trying to defame someone on this public
 forum. Looking forward for case citation.

 On 5/18/14, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can even give you the case number and every details tomorrow after
 he is sending it to me. But don't make fus as you were the one did
 everything which are all for blind.

 I can prove that tomorrow via this list. As how you were ignoring his
 case at the beginning and how you've gained name after he is getting
 positive judgement from the high court, Chennai. I'm having him on my
 ears over the phone at present.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of 

[AI] Macro security setting problem

2014-05-19 Thread Mukesh
Dear friends,
I have enable all macros in macro setting. All the macros are running in the 
excel files which are not protected with password. If I give a password to the 
macro enable file then the macros are not running and giving error message 'due 
to your security setting macros has been disabled. Please reopen the file and 
enable macros again' I did it but in vain.

Please give me a solution.

Regards,

Mukesh Baviskar
Mobile: 9403161157


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Re: [AI] Is bank transaction riskier for the blind?

2014-05-19 Thread Shadab Husain
Viraj bhai, Mahendra bhai and Vamshi bhai you all have helped me to me
to do safe banking, will give you a treat (of water) one day for the
probable loss averted! I waited before replying thinking someone else
too will reply, please mind it.

On 5/18/14, Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Shadab,

 Being visually challenged as well as a banker, let me put forth my
 thoughts on this.

 1.  Use on line banking as far as possible.
 2.  Activate SMS alerts on your mobile so that you get to know about
 the transaction as soon it is over.
 3.  Every time you visit the branch, get home a few transaction slips
 so that you get them  filled up by people whom you can trust.
 4.  Remember the denominations and make sure you tell them to the
 employee so that he gets to know that you are sure of what you are
 doing.
 4.  If you are banking with SBI, use your debit card to withdraw as
 well as deposit cash into your account at green channel counters so
 that you won't need to fill any forms.  If you want to deposit cash
 into an account repeatedly, you can take a GRC (green remit card)
 which you can use for depositing cash.  The beneficiary as well as the
 remmitter will get SMS alerts about the transaction.

 If you can be specific about the ways you are getting cheated, I can
 provide guidance on the ways to prevent the same.





 On 5/18/14, mahendra gal...@chello.at wrote:
 Dear Shadab
 i think, you need to trust the bank staf,
 first of all, even if you are taking big sum,
 it is not every day, i suppose,
 second you can have netbanking, so you can see on mobile,
 how much amount you have withdrawn, after your transaction.so you you
 can be sure.
 thurd, they need to worrey about there jobs.


 At 04:29 PM 5/17/2014, you wrote:
I go alone.

What reasons you have for bank staff being honest?

Sent from my iPhone

  On 17-May-2014, at 5:59 pm, Aravind R aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  bank employees wont cheat don't worry. they are not that much wicked
  people. anyway, you normally go with someone no? so you can verify.
 
  On 5/17/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote:
  Friends, what risks the blind face doing bank transactions? Can the
  bank employees themselves cheat us? Please shed light on this crucial
  issue because often I transact and fear getting cheated. Your advice
  will comfort me very much. Thanks Shadab
 
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[AI] Vidio: Hindu temples deny disabled people entry

2014-05-19 Thread avinash shahi
So what about Mosque and temples? aren't these places are public places?
Here is this vidio featuring two wheelchair users who were denied
entry in Temples.
Has any blind ever faced any such restriction? do share your experience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCGN1KwniQ0


-- 
Avinash Shahi
M.Phil Research Scholar
Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
Jawaharlal Nehru University
New Delhi India



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Re: [AI] urgent: require circular/guidelines

2014-05-19 Thread Amar Jain
Check guidelines.gov.in (prior registration required) to view the
guidelines. And also click on Stop if the page is refreshing again and
again.

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Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily

2014-05-19 Thread Amiyo Biswas
Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear 
ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading 
Bengali, English or Hindi.


With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329
- Original Message - 
From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily



Hi,
The auto language detection   characteristics is not from nvda but it
is from Espeak.
Nvda does no thing on TTs.
In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working
language must be the same.
Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than
seventy languages.


On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Him Prasad Gautam  Sir,
I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a
user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak
everything without mentioning the language.
The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can
distinguish between the two languages himself.
Please inform me your views about this.

On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda.
Based on the letter,  the default nvda synthesizer  automatically
detects the language. But if your voice is different than the language
of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular
language.
Take an example,
For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi.

If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the
letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you  know whether
it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka?
In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same.
If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language
belongs to the other language.
nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice.
Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a proper
way.
Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work.







On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote:

friends,
While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each 
letter;

for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the problem
solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It
should be notted that it was not in 2012.




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Re: [AI] SmartCane Device

2014-05-19 Thread Amiyo Biswas

Hello,

I collected my smart cane from NAB, West Bengal last Thursday. It's 
excellent and very helpful.


However, it seems, the makers have compromised the longevity of the stick to 
keep it light-weight. It's very light and may be damaged if it gets into the 
spoke of a cycle or something like that. Even if a man fumbles on it, it may 
be damaged. I would request for a more robust and hardy stick. My stick 
frequently gets damaged.


The smar device is attached to a standard Dehradun tick which can be folded 
into six parts. But when the device is attached, the stick can be folded 
into three segments. It is too long for an office bag. Though the device is 
removable, it is not advisable to attach and remove it frequently. It takes 
time and the lock may be damaged.


At least the stick with the device attached should be folded into four 
segments. Or, the device fitting may be made smaller to fit into the second 
part. Then it can be folded into six segments. The actual device is just the 
size of two wrist watches placed one on the other.


I must thank the developpers for introducing such a device at such a cost. 
It is clear that they have taken into consideration many difficulties. It 
needs a Nokia battery wich is easily available. The vibrations are very 
clear and distinct.


With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329

- Original Message - 
From: Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] SmartCane Device


It is not to discourage anyone, as far as I heard about the smart cane 
from

the users here, It is confusing since it is vibrating almost all the time
since as per our Indian cities, something or the other vehicle being kept 
on

the way where we walk. Even though the range is kept for short distance as
well. So I personally dropped the idea of purchasing one myself.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Dr. G. Janardhana Naidu
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:23 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] SmartCane Device

Dear Sir,
Will you please describe salient features of smart cane device?
Thanks in advance,
janardhana Naidu.
On 5/14/14, Anwesha Choudhuri smartc...@saksham.org wrote:

Dear All,



After a long wait, the SmartCane device is now available for purchase.
The device is for Rs. 3000/- and will be available in various centers
across the country.  Please find the location of the center below:



North Zone:

Saksham Trust, New Delhi- NCR

Saksham Punjab, Jallandhar- Punjab

Rehabilitation Society of Visually Impaired, Lucknow- Uttar Pradesh

Arushi, Bhopal- Madhya Pradesh

Sparsh Products, Dehradun-  Uttarakhand



South Zone:

Mitra Jyoti, Bangalore- Karnataka

National Federation for the Blind (NFB), Bangalore- Karnataka

LV Prasad Eye Institute, Hyderabad- Andhra Pradesh

International Association for the Blind (IAB), Madurai- Tamil Nadu

Chakshumathi, Trivandrum- Kerala



East Zone:

National Association for the Blind, Kolkata- West Bengal

Odisha Association of the Blind (OAB), Bhubaneswar- Orissa



West Zone:

Xavier's Resource Centre for the Blind, Mumbai- Maharashtra

Voice Vision Mumbai, Mumbai- Maharashtra

National Association of the Blind (NAB), Mumbai- Maharashtra

Blind People's Association, Ahmadabad- Gujarat

Andhjan Kalyan Trust, Rajkot- Gujarat



Please get in touch with us through Access India or you can email us
directly at smartc...@saksham.org



Regards,

Anwesha Choudhuri

Saksham







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[AI] need people who are professional artists.

2014-05-19 Thread Taha Haaziq
dear all.

the Department of Art and Culture, Goa, is in search of professional
artists in the differently abled category.
they may be professionals in performing or fine art. such as, singers[
classical or light], instrumentalist[classical or light], dancers,
photographer, painter, sculpturist  or others.
please send me the details  such as personal information, professional
in which art?, experience, contact details etc. off the list...
my contact details are given in my signature line.
please forward this to as many as possible.
also to other disabilities.

Thanks.
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with best Regards,

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Re: [AI] Vidio: Hindu temples deny disabled people entry

2014-05-19 Thread muruganandan.k
dear Avinash and friends, this is an issue concerning more factors
than the general empathetic view expressed by the reporter in this
vidio.
It was Mr.Deepak, a well-known disability activist from Chennai, who
brought this issue to my knowledge in his lecture. I was shocked to
know that such a problem exists, and also felt how distanced the
disabled community in understanding each others' problems.
being a blind, if I have encountered any trouble in the temple, that
is only due to the over-caring and over-simpathy of the priests and
public! For the wheel-chair users however, problem is different:
of course, each public temple should have a whiel-chair of its own for
the disabled visiters. As in this case, all the disabled visiters
won't be able to use the same kind of whiel-chair, and most of them
have them disigned for their special needs.
but what hell is the problem in allowing individual wheel-chairs?
the prominent reason is that, straps and some other parts of the
whiel-chairs are allegedly made using the cattles' (kow or bull's)
wool, and hence they cannot be allowed inside the temples.

even if you approach the court, articles 25 and 26 will be invoked,
and such entry of a disabled visiter with his/her wheel chair will be
treated as an infringement in the Hindu religious belief. In a country
where majority of the people help the disabled only for their own
spiritual satisfaction, I really doubt howmany will support the
disabled right over religious belief in  the State laws, courts and
public opinions.
but a few questions naturally araise:
1. are the disabled persons using custamised wheel-chairs not Hindus?
2. as believers and followers of the same religion, don't they diserve
respect and acceptance?
3. how will the temple administrations and believers would ensure that
belts, vollets./purses, hats and other properties the visiters take
are woolen-free?
4. should we allow the religious beliefs enjoy veto power over all the
democratic rights at least in the matters of disabled?

note of caution: my views expressed here are only in relevance to the
State laws, constitutional provitions and public opinion. I am not
responsible if these views are interpreted as malining hinduism or
hindus. in fact, any such practice in any religious institution is
condemnable.

thank you.

On 5/19/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 So what about Mosque and temples? aren't these places are public places?
 Here is this vidio featuring two wheelchair users who were denied
 entry in Temples.
 Has any blind ever faced any such restriction? do share your experience.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCGN1KwniQ0


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 Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
 Jawaharlal Nehru University
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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-19 Thread akhilesh
Kasia..!
I know her personally that's why speaking. not morons like you keep
blabbering believing in hearsay nonsense talks  and without any
evidences. Don't talk if you have nothing constructive to offer.
believe me, Learn to use the brains in constructive ways.. It will
cost you nothing..
your friends who are moving complaint boxes are getting free legal
advice at the comfort of their homes!. ask them to visit some courts
for their legal solutions and experience the heat first hand and then
talk..!

On 5/19/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote:
 Friends, Kanchan ma'am have always been of great help to me, she is
 just like my elder sister and the moderator must demand apology from
 Kasia or remove him from the list. (I am polite to say that he must
 apologise.) It is very unfortunate that Kanchan ma'am has to waste her
 important time because of that person. Moderator I am very upset by
 the disgust spewed on the list, and have wasted time reading all the
 emails on this important topic which was not so important for me
 because I saw your email. The level of Access India has fallen very
 low. Poor. Moderator will you always remain polite with ridiculous
 people? Access India is a nice list, I have made many good friends
 here, but forgiveness will convert it to garbage. Weed out the
 dead-wood forthwith.



 On 5/19/14, payal payal.thereside...@gmail.com wrote:
 Unfounded spouting of venom is really something we can do without on this
 list. Unfortunately we don't have any defamation clauses on this list.
 A member out of nowhere decides he/she can say whatever they choose about
 a
 member of longstanding repute is not only unfortunate but also uncalled
 for.

 I agree with the rest when they say this information should be expunged
 with
 sufficient action taken against persons like this to ensure name calling
 and
 venom spouting is kept out.
 What Kanchan has done, is known to most on this list here. no action was
 taken on an earlier occasion when things were said in  unsavoury manner
 too.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 10:06 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Strainge it is.

 Kanchan had been composed and civil iin her reply and Kasia is going
 on and on for nothing.

 Kasia, if you had any problem with Kanchan, you should have sent her a
 private mail instead of writing on the list. You accuse Kanchan of
 something on some hearsay and you expect she shouldn't respond to you
 on the list? how bizzarre is that.

 I am the testimony as to how Kanchan had helped me and there are so
 many others like me I am sure.

 Kasia, you must apologise.

 Harish, please interveen in the matter.

 On 5/19/14, li...@srinivasu.org li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Kasia,
 I can write at least hundred good things that Kanchan has done and
 helped
 community inspire legal is her core profession. Can you have point me
 ten
 good things that you have done to help people on this list. I would
 suggest
 ease make best use of the list and if you can't, this is not the right
 forum
 for you.

 Regards,
 Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
 Sent from my iPhone 5C

 On 19-May-2014, at 6:08, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:

 O wow, backing up? Do whatever you like. But analyse first whether
 she's
 a
 lawyer or a liar. She may be a famous person as per this list. But with
 her
 fake fantacies.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of akhilesh
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:54 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
 Delhi
 judicial services exam

 Dear Kasia,
 if you can mind your language please?
 Advocate kanchan pamnani has contributed a lot for this society, and we
 know
 it  well and experienced it first hand. Some vested interests from
 Radio
 udaan have blabbering about her on the list and you have believe them
 without any research.  hmm?
 Learn to talk first and then comment..  she is the respectable member
 of
 this list and also of this society.

 On 5/18/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My suggestion is
 that don't go for heresay thingies. The person who accused Kanchan
 made a statement on a radio, which is not to be relied upon as he
 didn't have any solid evidence to support it. It might be possible
 that Kanchan Pamnani said something else and he tainted the her
 statement. It would be in public interest if baseless allegations are
 not to be relied upon. You are trying to defame someone on this public
 forum. Looking forward for case citation.

 On 

Re: [AI] Vidio: Hindu temples deny disabled people entry

2014-05-19 Thread avinash shahi
Many thanks muruganandan for your careful consideration of the issue.
We have National and international legislation/treaty which call upon
the state to facilitate easy access to public places for disabled But
religious shrines have not been specifically mentioned as one of the
frequent cites which PWDs visit.
As far as article 25 and 26 of Indian Constitution are concerned,
religious establishments are free to protect their religious practices
and propogate their religious preachings. Situation is little complex,
and we would have to find out the way where individual rights don't
clash with exclusive religious rights. And there has to be provision
for state-owned temples to provide easy access to persons with
wheel-chair.
I know There is a temple where menstruating women are not allowed from
entering in the temple's premises.  And such archaic and
discriminating practices must be challenged and done away with
forthwith. Still RPD Bill is lying with the Standing Committee, and we
can lobby to include specific clauses where religious shrines are made
accessible by the government for people with wheel-chair in
particular, and for persons with disabilities in general.


On 5/19/14, muruganandan.k send2...@gmail.com wrote:
 dear Avinash and friends, this is an issue concerning more factors
 than the general empathetic view expressed by the reporter in this
 vidio.
 It was Mr.Deepak, a well-known disability activist from Chennai, who
 brought this issue to my knowledge in his lecture. I was shocked to
 know that such a problem exists, and also felt how distanced the
 disabled community in understanding each others' problems.
 being a blind, if I have encountered any trouble in the temple, that
 is only due to the over-caring and over-simpathy of the priests and
 public! For the wheel-chair users however, problem is different:
 of course, each public temple should have a whiel-chair of its own for
 the disabled visiters. As in this case, all the disabled visiters
 won't be able to use the same kind of whiel-chair, and most of them
 have them disigned for their special needs.
 but what hell is the problem in allowing individual wheel-chairs?
 the prominent reason is that, straps and some other parts of the
 whiel-chairs are allegedly made using the cattles' (kow or bull's)
 wool, and hence they cannot be allowed inside the temples.

 even if you approach the court, articles 25 and 26 will be invoked,
 and such entry of a disabled visiter with his/her wheel chair will be
 treated as an infringement in the Hindu religious belief. In a country
 where majority of the people help the disabled only for their own
 spiritual satisfaction, I really doubt howmany will support the
 disabled right over religious belief in  the State laws, courts and
 public opinions.
 but a few questions naturally araise:
 1. are the disabled persons using custamised wheel-chairs not Hindus?
 2. as believers and followers of the same religion, don't they diserve
 respect and acceptance?
 3. how will the temple administrations and believers would ensure that
 belts, vollets./purses, hats and other properties the visiters take
 are woolen-free?
 4. should we allow the religious beliefs enjoy veto power over all the
 democratic rights at least in the matters of disabled?

 note of caution: my views expressed here are only in relevance to the
 State laws, constitutional provitions and public opinion. I am not
 responsible if these views are interpreted as malining hinduism or
 hindus. in fact, any such practice in any religious institution is
 condemnable.

 thank you.

 On 5/19/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 So what about Mosque and temples? aren't these places are public places?
 Here is this vidio featuring two wheelchair users who were denied
 entry in Temples.
 Has any blind ever faced any such restriction? do share your experience.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCGN1KwniQ0


 --
 Avinash Shahi
 M.Phil Research Scholar
 Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
 Jawaharlal Nehru University
 New Delhi India



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Re: [AI] Vidio: Hindu temples deny disabled people entry

2014-05-19 Thread George Abraham
People go into places of worship with purses, handbags, belts and so on
which could also be considered a violation?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: 19 May 2014 14:36
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Vidio: Hindu temples deny disabled people entry

Many thanks muruganandan for your careful consideration of the issue.
We have National and international legislation/treaty which call upon
the state to facilitate easy access to public places for disabled But
religious shrines have not been specifically mentioned as one of the
frequent cites which PWDs visit.
As far as article 25 and 26 of Indian Constitution are concerned,
religious establishments are free to protect their religious practices
and propogate their religious preachings. Situation is little complex,
and we would have to find out the way where individual rights don't
clash with exclusive religious rights. And there has to be provision
for state-owned temples to provide easy access to persons with
wheel-chair.
I know There is a temple where menstruating women are not allowed from
entering in the temple's premises.  And such archaic and
discriminating practices must be challenged and done away with
forthwith. Still RPD Bill is lying with the Standing Committee, and we
can lobby to include specific clauses where religious shrines are made
accessible by the government for people with wheel-chair in
particular, and for persons with disabilities in general.


On 5/19/14, muruganandan.k send2...@gmail.com wrote:
 dear Avinash and friends, this is an issue concerning more factors
 than the general empathetic view expressed by the reporter in this
 vidio.
 It was Mr.Deepak, a well-known disability activist from Chennai, who
 brought this issue to my knowledge in his lecture. I was shocked to
 know that such a problem exists, and also felt how distanced the
 disabled community in understanding each others' problems.
 being a blind, if I have encountered any trouble in the temple, that
 is only due to the over-caring and over-simpathy of the priests and
 public! For the wheel-chair users however, problem is different:
 of course, each public temple should have a whiel-chair of its own for
 the disabled visiters. As in this case, all the disabled visiters
 won't be able to use the same kind of whiel-chair, and most of them
 have them disigned for their special needs.
 but what hell is the problem in allowing individual wheel-chairs?
 the prominent reason is that, straps and some other parts of the
 whiel-chairs are allegedly made using the cattles' (kow or bull's)
 wool, and hence they cannot be allowed inside the temples.

 even if you approach the court, articles 25 and 26 will be invoked,
 and such entry of a disabled visiter with his/her wheel chair will be
 treated as an infringement in the Hindu religious belief. In a country
 where majority of the people help the disabled only for their own
 spiritual satisfaction, I really doubt howmany will support the
 disabled right over religious belief in  the State laws, courts and
 public opinions.
 but a few questions naturally araise:
 1. are the disabled persons using custamised wheel-chairs not Hindus?
 2. as believers and followers of the same religion, don't they diserve
 respect and acceptance?
 3. how will the temple administrations and believers would ensure that
 belts, vollets./purses, hats and other properties the visiters take
 are woolen-free?
 4. should we allow the religious beliefs enjoy veto power over all the
 democratic rights at least in the matters of disabled?

 note of caution: my views expressed here are only in relevance to the
 State laws, constitutional provitions and public opinion. I am not
 responsible if these views are interpreted as malining hinduism or
 hindus. in fact, any such practice in any religious institution is
 condemnable.

 thank you.

 On 5/19/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 So what about Mosque and temples? aren't these places are public places?
 Here is this vidio featuring two wheelchair users who were denied
 entry in Temples.
 Has any blind ever faced any such restriction? do share your experience.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCGN1KwniQ0


 --
 Avinash Shahi
 M.Phil Research Scholar
 Centre for The Study of Law and Governance
 Jawaharlal Nehru University
 New Delhi India



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Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-19 Thread Satguru Rathi
Furthermore, where are the case details which Katia was talking about? How 
many hours are there in your single day?




-Original Message- 
From: akhilesh

Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 1:53 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi 
judicial services exam


Kasia..!
I know her personally that's why speaking. not morons like you keep
blabbering believing in hearsay nonsense talks  and without any
evidences. Don't talk if you have nothing constructive to offer.
believe me, Learn to use the brains in constructive ways.. It will
cost you nothing..
your friends who are moving complaint boxes are getting free legal
advice at the comfort of their homes!. ask them to visit some courts
for their legal solutions and experience the heat first hand and then
talk..!

On 5/19/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote:

Friends, Kanchan ma'am have always been of great help to me, she is
just like my elder sister and the moderator must demand apology from
Kasia or remove him from the list. (I am polite to say that he must
apologise.) It is very unfortunate that Kanchan ma'am has to waste her
important time because of that person. Moderator I am very upset by
the disgust spewed on the list, and have wasted time reading all the
emails on this important topic which was not so important for me
because I saw your email. The level of Access India has fallen very
low. Poor. Moderator will you always remain polite with ridiculous
people? Access India is a nice list, I have made many good friends
here, but forgiveness will convert it to garbage. Weed out the
dead-wood forthwith.



On 5/19/14, payal payal.thereside...@gmail.com wrote:

Unfounded spouting of venom is really something we can do without on this
list. Unfortunately we don't have any defamation clauses on this list.
A member out of nowhere decides he/she can say whatever they choose about
a
member of longstanding repute is not only unfortunate but also uncalled
for.

I agree with the rest when they say this information should be expunged
with
sufficient action taken against persons like this to ensure name calling
and
venom spouting is kept out.
What Kanchan has done, is known to most on this list here. no action was
taken on an earlier occasion when things were said in  unsavoury manner
too.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of Rahul Kelapure
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 10:06 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
Delhi
judicial services exam

Strainge it is.

Kanchan had been composed and civil iin her reply and Kasia is going
on and on for nothing.

Kasia, if you had any problem with Kanchan, you should have sent her a
private mail instead of writing on the list. You accuse Kanchan of
something on some hearsay and you expect she shouldn't respond to you
on the list? how bizzarre is that.

I am the testimony as to how Kanchan had helped me and there are so
many others like me I am sure.

Kasia, you must apologise.

Harish, please interveen in the matter.

On 5/19/14, li...@srinivasu.org li...@srinivasu.org wrote:

Kasia,
I can write at least hundred good things that Kanchan has done and
helped
community inspire legal is her core profession. Can you have point me
ten
good things that you have done to help people on this list. I would

suggest

ease make best use of the list and if you can't, this is not the right

forum

for you.

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C


On 19-May-2014, at 6:08, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:

O wow, backing up? Do whatever you like. But analyse first whether
she's
a
lawyer or a liar. She may be a famous person as per this list. But with
her
fake fantacies.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
Of akhilesh
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:54 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in
Delhi
judicial services exam

Dear Kasia,
if you can mind your language please?
Advocate kanchan pamnani has contributed a lot for this society, and we
know
it  well and experienced it first hand. Some vested interests from
Radio
udaan have blabbering about her on the list and you have believe them
without any research.  hmm?
Learn to talk first and then comment..  she is the respectable member
of
this list and also of this society.


On 5/18/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My suggestion is
that don't go for heresay thingies. The person who accused Kanchan
made a statement on a radio, which is not to be relied upon as he
didn't have any 

Re: [AI] Is bank transaction riskier for blind?

2014-05-19 Thread Amar Jain
Hi Shadab Bhaiya,

I presume that you are referring to physical transactions as against
the transactions done on technological platforms.

Locker is a specific instance which retains high risk weight when compared
to cash deposit.
Though there are no absolute safeguards apart from of course having
your trusted people around with the assumption that the trust level
retains the same for both of you,
but the things like presence of CC TV cameras and some legal
safeguards  bring down the degree of risk which we have to undertake.

Having said that, it cannot be said in an unequivocal terms that
physical transactions are absolutely safe for us. However the
incidents of such defaults occurring are rare or may be rarest.

Happy to express my opinion if you can specify the kind of incidents
where you want to minimize the risk.

Kind Regards,
Amar Jain

-- 
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Website: www.amarjain.com



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[AI] Moderator: Personal attacks- RE: Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam

2014-05-19 Thread Kotian, H P
Just to reiterate, this thread continues to be closed for traffic and action 
will be taken on all indulging in personal attacks.

Harish Kotian

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
akhilesh
Sent: 19 May 2014 13:53
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi 
judicial services exam

Kasia..!
I know her personally that's why speaking. not morons like you keep blabbering 
believing in hearsay nonsense talks  and without any evidences. Don't talk if 
you have nothing constructive to offer.
believe me, Learn to use the brains in constructive ways.. It will cost you 
nothing..
your friends who are moving complaint boxes are getting free legal advice at 
the comfort of their homes!. ask them to visit some courts for their legal 
solutions and experience the heat first hand and then talk..!

On 5/19/14, Shadab Husain shadab...@gmail.com wrote:
 Friends, Kanchan ma'am have always been of great help to me, she is
 just like my elder sister and the moderator must demand apology from
 Kasia or remove him from the list. (I am polite to say that he must
 apologise.) It is very unfortunate that Kanchan ma'am has to waste her
 important time because of that person. Moderator I am very upset by
 the disgust spewed on the list, and have wasted time reading all the
 emails on this important topic which was not so important for me
 because I saw your email. The level of Access India has fallen very
 low. Poor. Moderator will you always remain polite with ridiculous
 people? Access India is a nice list, I have made many good friends
 here, but forgiveness will convert it to garbage. Weed out the
 dead-wood forthwith.



 On 5/19/14, payal payal.thereside...@gmail.com wrote:
 Unfounded spouting of venom is really something we can do without on
 this list. Unfortunately we don't have any defamation clauses on this list.
 A member out of nowhere decides he/she can say whatever they choose
 about a member of longstanding repute is not only unfortunate but
 also uncalled for.

 I agree with the rest when they say this information should be
 expunged with sufficient action taken against persons like this to
 ensure name calling and venom spouting is kept out.
 What Kanchan has done, is known to most on this list here. no action
 was taken on an earlier occasion when things were said in  unsavoury
 manner too.


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of Rahul Kelapure
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 10:06 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter
 in Delhi judicial services exam

 Strainge it is.

 Kanchan had been composed and civil iin her reply and Kasia is going
 on and on for nothing.

 Kasia, if you had any problem with Kanchan, you should have sent her
 a private mail instead of writing on the list. You accuse Kanchan of
 something on some hearsay and you expect she shouldn't respond to you
 on the list? how bizzarre is that.

 I am the testimony as to how Kanchan had helped me and there are so
 many others like me I am sure.

 Kasia, you must apologise.

 Harish, please interveen in the matter.

 On 5/19/14, li...@srinivasu.org li...@srinivasu.org wrote:
 Kasia,
 I can write at least hundred good things that Kanchan has done and
 helped community inspire legal is her core profession. Can you have
 point me ten good things that you have done to help people on this
 list. I would
 suggest
 ease make best use of the list and if you can't, this is not the
 right
 forum
 for you.

 Regards,
 Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone
 5C

 On 19-May-2014, at 6:08, Kasia kasiaka...@gmail.com wrote:

 O wow, backing up? Do whatever you like. But analyse first whether
 she's a lawyer or a liar. She may be a famous person as per this
 list. But with her fake fantacies.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
 On Behalf Of akhilesh
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 12:54 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter
 in Delhi judicial services exam

 Dear Kasia,
 if you can mind your language please?
 Advocate kanchan pamnani has contributed a lot for this society,
 and we know it  well and experienced it first hand. Some vested
 interests from Radio udaan have blabbering about her on the list
 and you have believe them without any research.  hmm?
 Learn to talk first and then comment..  she is the respectable
 member of this list and also of this society.

 On 5/18/14, Arjun Malhotra malhotraarjun2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm wondering where is the moderator of the list? My 

Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily

2014-05-19 Thread Him Prasad Gautam
Hi,
I also work in Espeak.
You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi
or Bengali or English.
This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader.
If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are
misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I
am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another
one.
It is a lie declaration!
The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or
navigation of the character.
In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text.
Hence no question of disturbance.
It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is
reminding you that your default voice is different and working in
another language.

In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also
Bengali; you can say why to inform me?
But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is
your weakness.
Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user
may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual
working manner.
If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the
road is built.

On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear
 ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading
 Bengali, English or Hindi.

 With best Regards,
 Amiyo Biswas
 Cell: +91-9433464329
 - Original Message -
 From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily


 Hi,
 The auto language detection   characteristics is not from nvda but it
 is from Espeak.
 Nvda does no thing on TTs.
 In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working
 language must be the same.
 Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than
 seventy languages.


 On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Him Prasad Gautam  Sir,
 I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a
 user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak
 everything without mentioning the language.
 The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can
 distinguish between the two languages himself.
 Please inform me your views about this.

 On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda.
 Based on the letter,  the default nvda synthesizer  automatically
 detects the language. But if your voice is different than the language
 of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular
 language.
 Take an example,
 For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi.

 If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the
 letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you  know whether
 it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka?
 In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same.
 If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language
 belongs to the other language.
 nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice.
 Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a proper
 way.
 Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work.







 On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote:
 friends,
 While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each
 letter;
 for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the problem
 solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It
 should be notted that it was not in 2012.




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Re: [AI] Audio Labellers

2014-05-19 Thread Bhavya shah
Hi.
Very interesting information.
How to determine whether a phone supports NFC or not? Is there any
list containing all the phones that can support nfc stickers.
What is the full form of NFC?
I would appreciate any assistance.

On 5/19/14, Manish Agrawal manis...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you use a NFC capable android phone, like the nexus 4 or 5, you can also
 get the same functionality as that provided by tools like the ones you have
 mentioned here on your phone.
 The benefit of using an android app is that you do not need to buy a
 separate device, remember to keep its battery charged or carry it around,
 can buy off the shelf NFC stickers instead of the proprietary stickers used
 by these devices and easily copy and share your audio labels across
 devices.

 You can read more about this at:

 http://iaccessible.net/audiolabeller/

 Regards,
 Manish


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Bhavya shah
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:22 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.; keyboardusers
 Subject: [AI] Audio Labellers

 Dear all.
 I just discovered the penfriend audio labeller and touch memo while
 surfing the web.
 Can you all share reviews/experiences with audio labellers, penfriend
 in particular?
 Also, do you all have any innovative ideas I [I am a twelve year old
 studying in 7th standard in an inclusive school with a laptop as a
 means of taking notes] could use an audio labeller for?
 I would appreciate any assistance.
 P.S. I am soon visiting RNIB so do you all have any suggestions for
 me, any particular thing I should check out in RNIB?
 --
 Best Regards
 Bhavya Shah
 Contact Details:
 E-mail address: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com
 Skype username: bhavya.09



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Re: [AI] Audio Labellers

2014-05-19 Thread Bhavya shah
Also, I have been recently informed about the sonic labeller.
Can you all shae any experiences/reviews with the mentioned product? I
did some search but was unable to find the order link on Skasham
website. Please ell me where can I get the specifictions, product
details, description etc. of the sonic labeller.

On 5/19/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.
 Very interesting information.
 How to determine whether a phone supports NFC or not? Is there any
 list containing all the phones that can support nfc stickers.
 What is the full form of NFC?
 I would appreciate any assistance.

 On 5/19/14, Manish Agrawal manis...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you use a NFC capable android phone, like the nexus 4 or 5, you can
 also
 get the same functionality as that provided by tools like the ones you
 have
 mentioned here on your phone.
 The benefit of using an android app is that you do not need to buy a
 separate device, remember to keep its battery charged or carry it around,
 can buy off the shelf NFC stickers instead of the proprietary stickers
 used
 by these devices and easily copy and share your audio labels across
 devices.

 You can read more about this at:

 http://iaccessible.net/audiolabeller/

 Regards,
 Manish


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf
 Of Bhavya shah
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:22 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.; keyboardusers
 Subject: [AI] Audio Labellers

 Dear all.
 I just discovered the penfriend audio labeller and touch memo while
 surfing the web.
 Can you all share reviews/experiences with audio labellers, penfriend
 in particular?
 Also, do you all have any innovative ideas I [I am a twelve year old
 studying in 7th standard in an inclusive school with a laptop as a
 means of taking notes] could use an audio labeller for?
 I would appreciate any assistance.
 P.S. I am soon visiting RNIB so do you all have any suggestions for
 me, any particular thing I should check out in RNIB?
 --
 Best Regards
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 Contact Details:
 E-mail address: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com
 Skype username: bhavya.09



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[AI] job alert from eyeway

2014-05-19 Thread Eyeway Helpdesk
Please find here below One job alert from eyeway:

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Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily

2014-05-19 Thread Bhavya shah
Hi.
A user may need to work on two or more languages together and does not
need to be told which language he has focus on sometimes.
Therefore, I request you to incorporate an option to make two or more
as default language or something like that.
I would certainly like to know your views on this.

On 5/19/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I also work in Espeak.
 You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi
 or Bengali or English.
 This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader.
 If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are
 misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I
 am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another
 one.
 It is a lie declaration!
 The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or
 navigation of the character.
 In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text.
 Hence no question of disturbance.
 It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is
 reminding you that your default voice is different and working in
 another language.

 In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also
 Bengali; you can say why to inform me?
 But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is
 your weakness.
 Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user
 may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual
 working manner.
 If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the
 road is built.

 On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear
 ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading
 Bengali, English or Hindi.

 With best Regards,
 Amiyo Biswas
 Cell: +91-9433464329
 - Original Message -
 From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily


 Hi,
 The auto language detection   characteristics is not from nvda but it
 is from Espeak.
 Nvda does no thing on TTs.
 In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working
 language must be the same.
 Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than
 seventy languages.


 On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Him Prasad Gautam  Sir,
 I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a
 user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak
 everything without mentioning the language.
 The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can
 distinguish between the two languages himself.
 Please inform me your views about this.

 On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda.
 Based on the letter,  the default nvda synthesizer  automatically
 detects the language. But if your voice is different than the language
 of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular
 language.
 Take an example,
 For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi.

 If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the
 letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you  know whether
 it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka?
 In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same.
 If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language
 belongs to the other language.
 nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice.
 Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a proper
 way.
 Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work.







 On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote:
 friends,
 While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each
 letter;
 for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the
 problem
 solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It
 should be notted that it was not in 2012.




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Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily

2014-05-19 Thread Amiyo Biswas
Ok, how shall I choose a language and correctly inform NVDA that I am using 
this language?


With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329

- Original Message - 
From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily



Hi,
I also work in Espeak.
You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi
or Bengali or English.
This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader.
If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are
misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I
am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another
one.
It is a lie declaration!
The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or
navigation of the character.
In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text.
Hence no question of disturbance.
It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is
reminding you that your default voice is different and working in
another language.

In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also
Bengali; you can say why to inform me?
But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is
your weakness.
Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user
may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual
working manner.
If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the
road is built.

On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:

Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear
ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading
Bengali, English or Hindi.

With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329
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concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily



Hi,
The auto language detection   characteristics is not from nvda but it
is from Espeak.
Nvda does no thing on TTs.
In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working
language must be the same.
Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than
seventy languages.


On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Him Prasad Gautam  Sir,
I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a
user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak
everything without mentioning the language.
The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can
distinguish between the two languages himself.
Please inform me your views about this.

On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda.
Based on the letter,  the default nvda synthesizer  automatically
detects the language. But if your voice is different than the language
of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular
language.
Take an example,
For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi.

If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the
letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you  know whether
it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka?
In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same.
If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language
belongs to the other language.
nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice.
Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a proper
way.
Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work.







On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote:

friends,
While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each
letter;
for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the 
problem

solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It
should be notted that it was not in 2012.




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[AI] Need Sanskrit to english accessible dictionary

2014-05-19 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
Hi listers, one of my friends who is pursuing research in hindi
language urgently need an accessible Sanskrit to English dictionary.
He tried to search on internet, but only in pdf format dictionaries
are available, which are not supportable by jaws and lekha. Please do
tell from where it may be obtained?

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[AI] Ms Office 2007 tutorials needed

2014-05-19 Thread Binni Kumari
Dear listers,

I am in need of tutorials of Ms Office 2007. Please help if somebody
has. I particularly need that of Ms Word, Excel and Powerpoint.

Thanks for the anticipated response.
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[AI] How to decrupt wifi access point in connectify pro version

2014-05-19 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafel
I am using connectify pro for wifi hotspot. In its setup it shows
encrupted access point. It is being started, but it is not being shown
in my mobile because the access point is encrupted, please tell me how
to decrupt it in order to be shown to other mobile devices?

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Re: [AI] Ms Office 2007 tutorials needed

2014-05-19 Thread Yogesh Chhabra
hello, you can find the MS word 2007 tutorial on nab delhi's site.
Www.nabdelhi.in

regards,
yogesh chhabra

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Re: [AI] Need Sanskrit to english accessible dictionary

2014-05-19 Thread Bhavya shah
Hi.
Do share with me  the Sanskrit to English accessible dictionary as
well if available.

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 Hi listers, one of my friends who is pursuing research in hindi
 language urgently need an accessible Sanskrit to English dictionary.
 He tried to search on internet, but only in pdf format dictionaries
 are available, which are not supportable by jaws and lekha. Please do
 tell from where it may be obtained?

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[AI] additional features of pro version of wordweb 7.02

2014-05-19 Thread Bhavya shah
Dear all.
I have recently installed Wordweb 7.02 Pro.
Please inform me the additional features I have access to with the Pro
version and the method to access those features.
I would appreciate any assistance.

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Re: [AI] Vidio: Hindu temples deny disabled people entry

2014-05-19 Thread muruganandan.k
dear Avinash, sorry for being pessimistic, but I have not come across
any leegal battle that was won against the Hindu religious belief in
India... I strongly doubt if such a converging point where the
individual rights do not clash with the religious belief could be
found against article 25 and 26. it would be great if practicing
lawyers in the list could share their insight in this matter... You
(Avinash) and others could also explore the possibilities Though
this is not all that relevant issue for the blind, we, in my humble
opinion, have always fought for all the disabled sections, and should
continue to do so...

thank  you.

On 5/19/14, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote:
 People go into places of worship with purses, handbags, belts and so on
 which could also be considered a violation?

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 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of avinash shahi
 Sent: 19 May 2014 14:36
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Vidio: Hindu temples deny disabled people entry

 Many thanks muruganandan for your careful consideration of the issue.
 We have National and international legislation/treaty which call upon
 the state to facilitate easy access to public places for disabled But
 religious shrines have not been specifically mentioned as one of the
 frequent cites which PWDs visit.
 As far as article 25 and 26 of Indian Constitution are concerned,
 religious establishments are free to protect their religious practices
 and propogate their religious preachings. Situation is little complex,
 and we would have to find out the way where individual rights don't
 clash with exclusive religious rights. And there has to be provision
 for state-owned temples to provide easy access to persons with
 wheel-chair.
 I know There is a temple where menstruating women are not allowed from
 entering in the temple's premises.  And such archaic and
 discriminating practices must be challenged and done away with
 forthwith. Still RPD Bill is lying with the Standing Committee, and we
 can lobby to include specific clauses where religious shrines are made
 accessible by the government for people with wheel-chair in
 particular, and for persons with disabilities in general.


 On 5/19/14, muruganandan.k send2...@gmail.com wrote:
 dear Avinash and friends, this is an issue concerning more factors
 than the general empathetic view expressed by the reporter in this
 vidio.
 It was Mr.Deepak, a well-known disability activist from Chennai, who
 brought this issue to my knowledge in his lecture. I was shocked to
 know that such a problem exists, and also felt how distanced the
 disabled community in understanding each others' problems.
 being a blind, if I have encountered any trouble in the temple, that
 is only due to the over-caring and over-simpathy of the priests and
 public! For the wheel-chair users however, problem is different:
 of course, each public temple should have a whiel-chair of its own for
 the disabled visiters. As in this case, all the disabled visiters
 won't be able to use the same kind of whiel-chair, and most of them
 have them disigned for their special needs.
 but what hell is the problem in allowing individual wheel-chairs?
 the prominent reason is that, straps and some other parts of the
 whiel-chairs are allegedly made using the cattles' (kow or bull's)
 wool, and hence they cannot be allowed inside the temples.

 even if you approach the court, articles 25 and 26 will be invoked,
 and such entry of a disabled visiter with his/her wheel chair will be
 treated as an infringement in the Hindu religious belief. In a country
 where majority of the people help the disabled only for their own
 spiritual satisfaction, I really doubt howmany will support the
 disabled right over religious belief in  the State laws, courts and
 public opinions.
 but a few questions naturally araise:
 1. are the disabled persons using custamised wheel-chairs not Hindus?
 2. as believers and followers of the same religion, don't they diserve
 respect and acceptance?
 3. how will the temple administrations and believers would ensure that
 belts, vollets./purses, hats and other properties the visiters take
 are woolen-free?
 4. should we allow the religious beliefs enjoy veto power over all the
 democratic rights at least in the matters of disabled?

 note of caution: my views expressed here are only in relevance to the
 State laws, constitutional provitions and public opinion. I am not
 responsible if these views are interpreted as malining hinduism or
 hindus. in fact, any such practice in any religious institution is
 condemnable.

 thank you.

 On 5/19/14, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 So what about Mosque and temples? aren't these places are public places?
 Here is this vidio featuring two wheelchair users who were denied
 entry in Temples.
 Has any blind ever faced any such 

[AI] Suggest hostels available for blind girls and boys in Mumbai

2014-05-19 Thread Prashant Naik
Hello,

Please suggest me hostels or accommodations available for blind girls and
boys in Mumbai city and around for working, non-working and students.  I
know MNB, Jogeshwari, BDD Chawl, Worli, Salvation army, Byculla, etc.  I
wish to know other options.

Regards,

Prashant


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Re: [AI] How to decrupt wifi access point in connectify pro version

2014-05-19 Thread Ajay Minocha
I use the free version, it's free as well as simpal.
Regards,
Ajay

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 I am using connectify pro for wifi hotspot. In its setup it shows
 encrupted access point. It is being started, but it is not being shown
 in my mobile because the access point is encrupted, please tell me how
 to decrupt it in order to be shown to other mobile devices?

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Re: [AI] Audio Labellers

2014-05-19 Thread Mohit Gupta
hi
Saksham trust has a labeler device.

On 5/19/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, I have been recently informed about the sonic labeller.
 Can you all shae any experiences/reviews with the mentioned product? I
 did some search but was unable to find the order link on Skasham
 website. Please ell me where can I get the specifictions, product
 details, description etc. of the sonic labeller.

 On 5/19/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.
 Very interesting information.
 How to determine whether a phone supports NFC or not? Is there any
 list containing all the phones that can support nfc stickers.
 What is the full form of NFC?
 I would appreciate any assistance.

 On 5/19/14, Manish Agrawal manis...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you use a NFC capable android phone, like the nexus 4 or 5, you can
 also
 get the same functionality as that provided by tools like the ones you
 have
 mentioned here on your phone.
 The benefit of using an android app is that you do not need to buy a
 separate device, remember to keep its battery charged or carry it
 around,
 can buy off the shelf NFC stickers instead of the proprietary stickers
 used
 by these devices and easily copy and share your audio labels across
 devices.

 You can read more about this at:

 http://iaccessible.net/audiolabeller/

 Regards,
 Manish


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 Behalf
 Of Bhavya shah
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:22 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
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 Subject: [AI] Audio Labellers

 Dear all.
 I just discovered the penfriend audio labeller and touch memo while
 surfing the web.
 Can you all share reviews/experiences with audio labellers, penfriend
 in particular?
 Also, do you all have any innovative ideas I [I am a twelve year old
 studying in 7th standard in an inclusive school with a laptop as a
 means of taking notes] could use an audio labeller for?
 I would appreciate any assistance.
 P.S. I am soon visiting RNIB so do you all have any suggestions for
 me, any particular thing I should check out in RNIB?
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Re: [AI] Audio Labellers

2014-05-19 Thread Bhavya shah
Hi.
Saksham has the penfriend audio labeller imported from RNIB.
I have been informed by someone and by the AI archives about the
inexpensive equivalent of the penfriend, the sonic labeller.
Please tell me where can I get the product details and order request
of the sonic labeller.
Do share personal reviews as well.
I would appreciate any assistance.

On 5/19/14, Mohit Gupta mohitchan...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi
 Saksham trust has a labeler device.

 On 5/19/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, I have been recently informed about the sonic labeller.
 Can you all shae any experiences/reviews with the mentioned product? I
 did some search but was unable to find the order link on Skasham
 website. Please ell me where can I get the specifictions, product
 details, description etc. of the sonic labeller.

 On 5/19/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi.
 Very interesting information.
 How to determine whether a phone supports NFC or not? Is there any
 list containing all the phones that can support nfc stickers.
 What is the full form of NFC?
 I would appreciate any assistance.

 On 5/19/14, Manish Agrawal manis...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you use a NFC capable android phone, like the nexus 4 or 5, you can
 also
 get the same functionality as that provided by tools like the ones you
 have
 mentioned here on your phone.
 The benefit of using an android app is that you do not need to buy a
 separate device, remember to keep its battery charged or carry it
 around,
 can buy off the shelf NFC stickers instead of the proprietary stickers
 used
 by these devices and easily copy and share your audio labels across
 devices.

 You can read more about this at:

 http://iaccessible.net/audiolabeller/

 Regards,
 Manish


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 Of Bhavya shah
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:22 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning
 the disabled.; keyboardusers
 Subject: [AI] Audio Labellers

 Dear all.
 I just discovered the penfriend audio labeller and touch memo while
 surfing the web.
 Can you all share reviews/experiences with audio labellers, penfriend
 in particular?
 Also, do you all have any innovative ideas I [I am a twelve year old
 studying in 7th standard in an inclusive school with a laptop as a
 means of taking notes] could use an audio labeller for?
 I would appreciate any assistance.
 P.S. I am soon visiting RNIB so do you all have any suggestions for
 me, any particular thing I should check out in RNIB?
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 Contact Details:
 E-mail address: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com
 Skype username: bhavya.09



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Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily

2014-05-19 Thread Maheshinder Singh Khosla

Dear Amiyo,
Press the key combination
Insert + control and letter v.
Choose the language on which you want to work and press enter.

Thanks

Maheshinder Singh Khosla
Mobile +91 97 811 20333
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From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily


Ok, how shall I choose a language and correctly inform NVDA that I am 
using this language?


With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329

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To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
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Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily



Hi,
I also work in Espeak.
You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi
or Bengali or English.
This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader.
If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are
misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I
am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another
one.
It is a lie declaration!
The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or
navigation of the character.
In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text.
Hence no question of disturbance.
It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is
reminding you that your default voice is different and working in
another language.

In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also
Bengali; you can say why to inform me?
But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is
your weakness.
Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user
may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual
working manner.
If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the
road is built.

On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:

Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear
ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading
Bengali, English or Hindi.

With best Regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329
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To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
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Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily



Hi,
The auto language detection   characteristics is not from nvda but it
is from Espeak.
Nvda does no thing on TTs.
In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working
language must be the same.
Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than
seventy languages.


On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Him Prasad Gautam  Sir,
I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a
user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak
everything without mentioning the language.
The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can
distinguish between the two languages himself.
Please inform me your views about this.

On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda.
Based on the letter,  the default nvda synthesizer  automatically
detects the language. But if your voice is different than the 
language

of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular
language.
Take an example,
For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi.

If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the
letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you  know whether
it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka?
In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same.
If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language
belongs to the other language.
nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice.
Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a 
proper

way.
Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work.







On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote:

friends,
While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each
letter;
for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the 
problem

solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It
should be notted that it was not in 2012.




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[AI] The Summer Session is Here- Be Fit

2014-05-19 Thread Blind Graduates' Forum of India
Dear all,

Greetings from Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI).

With our busy lives and more than crazy schedules, we often forget the most 
important aspect of our lives. Health! and Fitness!- that is what we are 
talking about. So join us in our session on 'Be Fit'.

 

What will we do at 'Be Fit'?

We have invited a sports psychologist and fitness trainer who will address us 
on the need and importance of  staying fit and giving the due attention to our 
body.

but it wont be all talk. In the second half, she will introduce us to 
sustainable free hand exercises and this will be an hour long practical 
session. Participants are requested to wear comfortable clothing.

 

Who is the Trainer?

Amruta Deshmukh is a sports psychologist and a fitness trainer. She has won 
many awards for swimming, cycling and running at the international  level. At 
the National Level, she has won over a dozen gold, silver, and bronze medals  
for Triathlon (running, swimming, and cycling) and exclusively for cycling as 
well. She is a record holder swimmer from  Dharamtar to Gateway of India  and 
has broken Anita Sood's record. 

 

When and Where is the session?

Saturday, May 24, 2014

From 3 pm to 6 pm

At Yashwantrao Chavan Pratishthan basement hall, Jagannathrao Bosale
Marg, Nariman Point, Mumbai 400021 - opposite Mantralay.  The venue
can be conveniently reached by bus root number 138 from CST station as
well as 138/100 from Churchgate station.  Share taxi services are also
available from both these railway stations.

For any further queries

Call Dinesh on 9969029700

 

 

Believe us, this session will be a time well invested. Look forward to seeing 
you.

Regards,

BGFI Team


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[AI] Notice To The Moderator, Accessindia.

2014-05-19 Thread bala9119
We, as an entity of online Radio Station, want to take the reverts
pertaining to the below subject RE: Urgent legal assistance
required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam to your
notice as it contains a Backstabbing, derogatory remark about our
Radio by 2 of your
list's members named Arjun Malhotra and Akhilesh whose reply dated
18/05/2014 Sunday and 19/05/2014 Monday states that they want to prove
what we have said on aire as a mere lye and an utter blabber. In our
context, Radio or Radio Udaan has nothing to do with the above
mentioned thread. Radio Udaan is another form of voice of the visually
challenged like accessindia mailing list. We request you to take a
necessary measure to curtail these sort of unwarranted,
debasive, demoralizing statements from the above mentioned members.
Looking forward to your initiative and reply on this.
Thanks and regards,
Balanagendran,
Station Media Spokesperson Radio Udaan.
-- 
It doesn't matter what we have, but it really matters what we do with
what we have.

With Sincere Regards

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Re: [AI] Suggest hostels available for blind girls and boys in Mumbai

2014-05-19 Thread mukesh jain
hello,
for students, you may also contact elphinston colege hostel which is
situated at chirchgate near railway station near international youth
hostel where many blind studetns were also staying long ago.

you may also like to contact wilson colege hostel i.e. sent androons
hostel near chaupaty where also many blind students were staying.
there is one private hostel at malad where blind employed/self
employed youth are accomodated.

there is one hostel at andheri for girls. don't know the name exactly
but few girls i was in touch were staying there.

thanks,

On 5/19/14, Prashant Naik pran...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Please suggest me hostels or accommodations available for blind girls and
 boys in Mumbai city and around for working, non-working and students.  I
 know MNB, Jogeshwari, BDD Chawl, Worli, Salvation army, Byculla, etc.  I
 wish to know other options.

 Regards,

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Re: [AI] Audio Labellers

2014-05-19 Thread Manish Agrawal
NFC stands for near field communication. It is a subset of the RFID (radio 
frequency identification) set of technologies.

Most new android phones are coming with NFC support. You'll need to look at the 
specs of the phone to determine if it supports NFC or not. It is usually very 
clearly mentioned.
The NFC antenna is located at the back of the phone and so, you basically touch 
the back of your phone to an NFC sticker to activate the functionality.

If I mention phone once more in this mail, someone will ask me to move to the 
mobile list. So, will suggest that you read the link I sent in the earlier post 
and google for NFC stickers to learn more.

-Manish

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Bhavya shah
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 6:46 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Audio Labellers

Hi.
Very interesting information.
How to determine whether a phone supports NFC or not? Is there any list 
containing all the phones that can support nfc stickers.
What is the full form of NFC?
I would appreciate any assistance.

On 5/19/14, Manish Agrawal manis...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you use a NFC capable android phone, like the nexus 4 or 5, you can 
 also get the same functionality as that provided by tools like the 
 ones you have mentioned here on your phone.
 The benefit of using an android app is that you do not need to buy a 
 separate device, remember to keep its battery charged or carry it 
 around, can buy off the shelf NFC stickers instead of the proprietary 
 stickers used by these devices and easily copy and share your audio 
 labels across devices.

 You can read more about this at:

 http://iaccessible.net/audiolabeller/

 Regards,
 Manish


 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of Bhavya shah
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:22 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled.; keyboardusers
 Subject: [AI] Audio Labellers

 Dear all.
 I just discovered the penfriend audio labeller and touch memo while 
 surfing the web.
 Can you all share reviews/experiences with audio labellers, penfriend 
 in particular?
 Also, do you all have any innovative ideas I [I am a twelve year old 
 studying in 7th standard in an inclusive school with a laptop as a 
 means of taking notes] could use an audio labeller for?
 I would appreciate any assistance.
 P.S. I am soon visiting RNIB so do you all have any suggestions for 
 me, any particular thing I should check out in RNIB?
 --
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 Contact Details:
 E-mail address: bhavya.shah...@gmail.com Skype username: bhavya.09



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[AI] Rights of Prisoners with disabilities

2014-05-19 Thread Sruti disAbility Rights Centre
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/the-rights-of-prisoners-with-disabilities/article6026129.ece

Where prison facilities are not equipped to deal with the specific needs of
persons with disabilities, arrest and detention in custody should be a
measure of last resort
We have a slew of cases around prisoners’ rights that emphasise their right
to dignity and their right against cruel and degrading punishment, which
have been understood to violate the right to life, guaranteed by Article 21
of the Indian Constitution. In complying with the standards set out in
constitutional jurisprudence on this matter, the offence for which the
person has been apprehended or convicted is immaterial. The standard is
clear. No person shall be subjected to degrading, inhuman or cruel
punishment that is violative of human dignity; the duty of care to be
exercised in this matter during pre-trial custody is of a much higher
order. These are standards applicable to all custodial situations and to
all persons, irrespective of caste, sex, race, religion, or place of birth.
*Treatment in custody*
The Veena Sethi case in the early 1980s brought to light the treatment of
prisoners with mental illnesses and their prolonged incarceration for
periods ranging from 16 to 30 years in custody. This is far in excess of
sentences given to them in most of these cases, without bringing them any
substantive relief beyond release from illegal custody and transport and
food expenses till they reached home. That was long before there was a
consciousness or political articulation of the rights of persons with
disabilities, which, importantly today, includes civil and political rights
for prisoners with disabilities.
We have seen some reports on the arrest of Dr. G.N. Saibaba and the
conditions under which he is being held in custody. The fact that needs
close and urgent examination here is not whether he has Maoist “links” or
whether he is a “sympathiser” or even whether a university professor can be
harassed in this manner (although we must separate his troubles in the
university from his treatment by the officers of the criminal justice
system.) What needs our immediate attention is even more fundamental: as a
person with disabilities who requires constant assistance and support, what
are the standard minimum rules that must temper the decision to take him
into custody, in order that the treatment meted out to him is not construed
as cruel, degrading and inhuman?
It would be useful for the authorities who have taken Dr. Saibaba into
custody to be informed of India’s commitment to the UN Convention on the
Rights of Persons with Disabilities (UNCRPD). Article 4(d) enjoins States
Parties “to refrain from engaging in any act or practice that is
inconsistent with the present Convention and to ensure that public
authorities and institutions act in conformity with the present
Convention.” What are the specific protections for persons with
disabilities in relation to state custody? Article 15(1) of the UNCRPD is
immediately relevant: “No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel,
inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.” Article 15(2) of the
Convention places an obligation on the state to protect persons with
disabilities from cruel degrading or inhuman treatment and punishment. It
says, “States Parties shall take all effective legislative, administrative,
judicial or other measures to prevent persons with disabilities, on an
equal basis with others, from being subjected to torture or cruel, inhuman
or degrading treatment or punishment.”
The norm of substantive equality, well established through constitutional
jurisprudence in India, speaks of the principle of equality that
necessarily includes special treatment for persons who are vulnerable. The
denial of special provisions, appropriate assistance and specialised health
care access to a person with disabilities in custody, who uses a wheelchair
and has special health care needs arising from chronic illness, comes
firmly within the meaning of degrading, inhuman and cruel treatment in
derogation of the state’s obligation under the UNCRPD.
Particularly where a prisoner with disability requires support and
assistance for daily living, placing such a prisoner in solitary
confinement and denying the right to accessible facilities for personal
care and hygiene is violative of the right to dignity and bodily integrity
— both guaranteed under Article 21 of the Constitution, but also under
Article 17 of the UNCRPD. The latter simply and pertinently states that
“every person with disabilities has a right to respect for his or her
physical and mental integrity on an equal basis with others.”
The Rights of Persons with Disabilities legislation that ought to set out
these standards in clear and unequivocal terms has been ever in the making
in India. The absence of specific legislation, however, need not deter us
from the path of justice. Article 14 of the Constitution that sets out the
substantive right to 

Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily

2014-05-19 Thread Him Prasad Gautam
Hi,
Think globally, not locally.
Do not assume your scenario implies to all.
Why to set one language and work to other?
What is wrong to set the particular voice in which you are working.


On 5/19/14, Maheshinder Singh Khosla mahesh.kho...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Amiyo,
 Press the key combination
 Insert + control and letter v.
 Choose the language on which you want to work and press enter.

 Thanks

 Maheshinder Singh Khosla
 Mobile +91 97 811 20333
 - Original Message -
 From: Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
 thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 5:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily


 Ok, how shall I choose a language and correctly inform NVDA that I am
 using this language?

 With best Regards,
 Amiyo Biswas
 Cell: +91-9433464329

 - Original Message -
 From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily


 Hi,
 I also work in Espeak.
 You said that you your self can judge whether you are working in Hindi
 or Bengali or English.
 This is not a fault of Espeak or screen reader.
 If you set the voice name as Bengali and type Hindi; you yourself are
 misinforming the screen reader. To set a voice means declaring that I
 am/will work in this language. Why to set one voice and work another
 one.
 It is a lie declaration!
 The announcement of the language is only while typing a text or
 navigation of the character.
 In a plain reading it is not announcing the language of the text.
 Hence no question of disturbance.
 It is not annoying you but is serving its duty with loyalty that it is
 reminding you that your default voice is different and working in
 another language.

 In case of your voice is in Bengali and the working language is also
 Bengali; you can say why to inform me?
 But if you are setting one language and working another one; it is
 your weakness.
 Think globally, not locally. A developer never thinks that the user
 may handle his/her system wrongly and have an address for individual
 working manner.
 If yu want to drive in a road, you have to drive the vehicle as the
 road is built.

 On 5/19/14, Amiyo Biswas amiyo.bis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, then talk to the ESpeak developpers. It is very irritating to hear
 ESpeak saying Bengali ka and so on. I can understand that I am reading
 Bengali, English or Hindi.

 With best Regards,
 Amiyo Biswas
 Cell: +91-9433464329
 - Original Message -
 From: Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] N V D A/utter unnecessarily


 Hi,
 The auto language detection   characteristics is not from nvda but it
 is from Espeak.
 Nvda does no thing on TTs.
 In brief you must understand that the selected voice and working
 language must be the same.
 Do not think that two or three language, espeak supports more than
 seventy languages.


 On 5/16/14, Bhavya shah bhavya.shah...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Him Prasad Gautam  Sir,
 I feel that NVDA developers should incorporate an option by which a
 user can allow ESpeak to have no default language or can speak
 everything without mentioning the language.
 The user might have a document with two or more languages where he can
 distinguish between the two languages himself.
 Please inform me your views about this.

 On 5/16/14, Him Prasad Gautam drishtibac...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 there is a provision of auto language switch in nvda.
 Based on the letter,  the default nvda synthesizer  automatically
 detects the language. But if your voice is different than the
 language
 of use, it informs you that this letters belongs to this particular
 language.
 Take an example,
 For example; if you type a bengali ka while your voice is Hindi.

 If nvda will say it is a Bengali ka, you will know what exactly the
 letter is. If it will not say Bengali ka, how will you  know whether
 it is a Hindi ka or Bengali ka?
 In brief, the nvda voice and the typing language must be the same.
 If different, it will inform you that the typing letter language
 belongs to the other language.
 nvda assumes that you use that language which is set voice.
 Setting a voice and working in other language is not consider a
 proper
 way.
 Change the voice to the regional language of India in which you work.







 On 5/15/14, Dr.K. Viswanathan kviswanathanwarr...@gmail.com wrote:
 friends,
 While typing n, v d a 2013/2014 utter the language name for each
 letter;
 for instance hindy क, hindy ख. When hindy opted as default, the
 problem
 solved. But, the problem stil continued in the regional language. It
 should be notted that it was not in 

[AI] nvda or jaws is never speaks with open office.

2014-05-19 Thread Mahesh Bhagwat
i am workin at zp ahmednagar as a junior cleck. I havw installed nvda
13.3 at my home i installed jaws 14 but while working in open office
it never read any thing. In ofiice i have to work with only in open
office. What can i do? Please guide me deeply and step by step thanks
in advance your mahesh bhagwat.



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[AI] Scanning tutorial

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Dear scanning experts

can u provide me with scanning tutorials with abbyy fine reader for proper 
scanning of text books.


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