Re: [AI] Ulternate of Application key
hi, There are few options. 1. use of alternate keys. For example: pressing Shift f10. disadvantage: May not be universally applicable. A possibility of assigning the same key combination for another purpose in certain application can not be denied. 2. defining a shortcut: User can define some key combination as apps key as a shortcut. But it has a limitation. Not workable in all applications. Redefining a least usable key of the device as an apps key: This is the best and permanent solution. It creates a permanent apps keys. However, the key which is converted to apps will not be available for its original functionality. The redefining of a physical key to a particular functional keystroke can be done using key mapper software. There are few tools. 4. For the last option; either sited or not, it needs an operation of a good skill of using the key mapper tool. On 9/11/14, Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com wrote: No need to use any external application. You can explore the Keyboard Manager tool available in JAWS / Utilities. On 9/11/14, Kaifi Azmi kas...@gmail.com wrote: dear friend, you can convert any useless key to application key, with help of software called (key renaper). for this you will have to take sited assistance. thanks! On 9/10/14, Manish Sharma manishjmsha...@gmail.com wrote: hi friends Recently I purchased hp pavilion 15 n259tx notebook. It doesn't have application key. My operating software is windows 8.1. Can I create A key or a group of keys as application key with help of any software. Please provide me information. Thanks and Regards Manish Sharma. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Kaifi Azmi Email: kas...@gmail.com Skype: kaifiazmi Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/kaifi2012 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Life is like a piano. White keys are happy moments Black keys are sad moments. But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music. Focus on your abilities, not your disability. Follow me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/starhoze Skype ID: star.hoze Warm Regards, Hozefa... Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Him Prasad Gautam Kathmandu, Nepal Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to
Re: [AI] Jaws V16 beta released!
Hi ram, Can you throw some light on global licence of jaws? I work for cisco where jaws licence is available globaly. so my queries are: is it be limited in terms of users? and how will it be renewed whether anualy or based on its updates? ccurrently 15 is being continued licenced at our end. and if 16 releases do we have to wait till the current licence renews? - Original Message - From: Ram Agarwal ramagarwal...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:26 PM Subject: [AI] Jaws V16 beta released! Dear Friends, Freedom Scientific has today released their latest version V16 for Jaws and are giving below some of the major new features for your attention. Those of you who have the licenced versions can now purchase the SMA to take benefit of the V16 and V17 . Others who already are covered under SMA will receive their software by first week of November. For more details you can contact me. What's New in Jaws V16 Built-in Search Engine for JAWS Keystrokes JAWS provides many keystrokes to perform a variety of commands. Many commands can be performed anywhere in Windows, such as reading the window title or current line, while other commands are only available in specific applications like Microsoft Word or Internet Explorer. If you are using JAWS with a refreshable braille display, there are even JAWS commands that can be performed using the controls on the braille display. While there are certain commands that are used by the majority of JAWS users on a daily basis, such as reading the current line (INSERT+UP ARROW) or reading the current window title (INSERT+T), there are numerous commands that even the most experienced users do not use regularly and need to be looked up. Certain types of commands can be especially difficult to remember as some of them require pressing several keys at once. The JAWS Command Search feature enables you to enter a full or partial description of a command whose keystroke you do not remember. JAWS will display all commands that match your search criteria, the description of the feature, and all the associated keystrokes, including braille commands if a refreshable braille display is currently connected. For example, you may need to locate a keystroke for working with formulas in Excel. Instead of opening the JAWS help topic for Excel and searching through all of the available keystrokes, or starting Keyboard Help (INSERT+1) and pressing various keystroke combinations until you find the correct one, you can open the Search for JAWS Commands window while focused in Excel, type formulas in the search edit box, and then view a list of all keystrokes related to working with formulas. Similarly, if you are browsing the Web and you need to find the keystroke for displaying a list of headings on the current page (INSERT+F6), you can open the Search for JAWS Commands window from Internet Explorer or Firefox, type list headings in the search edit box, and this command will be the first result. To search for a command, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by J, to open the Search for JAWS Commands window. Alternatively, you can choose Search for Commands from the Run JAWS Manager dialog box (INSERT+F2) or the JAWS Utilities menu. An HTML window opens and places you in an edit field. If Forms Mode is set to Auto or Semi-Auto, Forms Mode will be activated when the edit field gains focus. Begin typing the description of the command you are looking for and the results area in the lower part of the window automatically updates. As you type, the first result in the list is spoken automatically. Pressing ENTER turns off Forms Mode and places you on the first result. Note: If Auto Forms Mode is set to Manual, you will need to first press ENTER to activate Forms Mode before you begin typing in the edit field. Since this is an HTML window, you can use standard reading commands to review the search results. Each command name along with the most common keystroke used to perform it is displayed as a heading so you can quickly move between results using the H and SHIFT+H Navigation Quick Keys. When you locate the command you want, press DOWN ARROW to move to a brief description of what the command does, and any additional keystrokes that can be used to perform the command. This will include non-layered, layered, and braille keystrokes. If a particular command offers a braille keystroke, but a braille display is not currently connected when you performed the search, the braille keystroke will not be listed. Each JAWS command name and its associated keystrokes are also displayed as links. This allows you to press ENTER on the command name heading, or any of the associated keystroke links to close the Search for JAWS Commands window and activate the command. You can also exit this window by pressing ALT+F4, or the ESC key. Note: When performing a JAWS command search, the search results
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
Well, analytical questions are acceptable but my concern is rather implementing this mechanism on all sites better if we have service dedicatedly just like webvisum (not webvisum itself). AH! Indeed i'm no where bounded to the access india. that's why I said let us form a world-wide selution. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the audio capture. how the deaf-blind people will access this audio captcha. accessibility means accessible to all, not to the members of accessindia. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani ji, Indeed you hold the effectual point no doubt but, rather removing the entire mechanism better if we aproach to make it accesible by developing some alternative to tackle this. let us not give up, why don't we formulate an action plan on this? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse, will obtain less than 30 and get failled. thanks and sorry. thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic. -Original Message- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani, We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to except it. For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any features / measures which are vital to the website because they are inaccessible to us. Rather than it would be good approach to notify the website administrators about it and suggest them for other alternatives. I wonder you are not aware how the website functions behind the seen. The folks studied in web development can easily understand this. If you have any contacts of web developers you can take their views regarding to this and I 100% say they will strongly disagree on your point. Finally, if you wish to know what happens if the CAPTCHA is not placed on the site, take the example of Inclusive planet website. On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this can be done only at the data centre level where the cridentials are saved in a server of data centre. an individual should keep the antivirus upto date and only should visit genuine website. there are number of values are to be matched before financial transaction. like card no, expiry date, cvv, date of birth, pin, 3d secure password, now what is the roll of captcha their. my second question did not answer, was about incometax website. - Original Message - From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Here onething. if your personal/financial credentials are stolen, at least, an individual can never take access to these stuffs immediately. and they are stolen robotically and used on the merchant sites in the same manner. O no no indeed, I did not suggest webvisum but I had put my views comparatively. there should be a mechanism which can do the job exclusively. as suggested by kartik, there should be some analytical questions to be answered. it is very unfortunate that nobody is taking part in this critical discussion. let us hear from other folks what do they have to say on this. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem suppose I entered all my details of credit card like card number, expiry date and 3d secure password, what this captcha will do their. I enter my pan number, date of birth, password correctly, what this captcha is doing
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
Think generally. if this is the case on times of india, they will take action eventually and no doubt we could see lot of spamming comments there. simple calculation can be made through the bots very much. I have not commented there so i'm not aware much what mechanism they use. - Original Message - From: Madhumitha mdmt1...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem As a new comer, I'd like to present my opinion about this issue. Captchas are really annoying. In fact, they say it's for to prove as we are not a robot. There are plenty of ways to do that. If you're posting a comment against a news in times of India, they give us a small addition like 5+6 =? I personally feel that's the best way for proving as I'm not a robot. Which will also workout for both visually and hearing impaired people. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem please read my mail carefully, I am concern for the person with deaf-blind not only for deaf. some of website provide clear audio, not all. -Original Message- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:22 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem The similar point has been said by Zujar Kanchwala sir some months back when the same topic is raised and now the same point is mentioned by Sheik sir: The main intension of this CAPTCHA is for keeping servers high rather making cluttering. Now a day's many sites are providing better audio CAPTCHA which can be understood properly. If the person is deaf, he / she can see and enter the code. On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the audio capture. how the deaf-blind people will access this audio captcha. accessibility means accessible to all, not to the members of accessindia. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani ji, Indeed you hold the effectual point no doubt but, rather removing the entire mechanism better if we aproach to make it accesible by developing some alternative to tackle this. let us not give up, why don't we formulate an action plan on this? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse, will obtain less than 30 and get failled. thanks and sorry. thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic. -Original Message- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani, We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to except it. For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any features / measures which are vital to the website because they are inaccessible to us. Rather than it would be good approach to notify the website administrators about it and suggest them for other alternatives. I wonder you are not aware how the website functions behind the seen. The folks studied in web development can easily understand this. If you have any contacts of web developers you can take their views regarding to this and I 100% say they will strongly disagree on your point. Finally, if you wish to know what happens if the CAPTCHA is not placed on the site, take the example of Inclusive planet website. On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this can be done only at the data centre level where the cridentials are saved in a server of data centre. an individual should keep the antivirus upto date and only should visit genuine website. there are number of values are to be matched before financial transaction. like card no, expiry date, cvv, date of birth,
[AI] Few questions:
Hai friends: I have a few problems in my android. 1. I tried to install accessible what's app in my mobile. It said app not installed an app with the same signature is there. I tried to unstall my old whats app. but it had only disable option and not uninstall. I disabled it and tried to install the accessible one. but the same error came again. I went to playstore and checked. It said update. I clicked it but till today it is not opening. what can I do? 2. how to read mails in mobile? when I open, it reads the subject. how to read the entire mail? Note: my mobile is carbon a90s with android 4.2.2. please help me in solving my problems. -- Thanks and Regards, Saranya S. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
The main issue with the dedicated service is that it should be managed well for proper functioning. If the service experience down time, again we have to rely on sited person. So the best solution is to develop a mechanism on the website itself. On 9/11/14, Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote: Think generally. if this is the case on times of india, they will take action eventually and no doubt we could see lot of spamming comments there. simple calculation can be made through the bots very much. I have not commented there so i'm not aware much what mechanism they use. - Original Message - From: Madhumitha mdmt1...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem As a new comer, I'd like to present my opinion about this issue. Captchas are really annoying. In fact, they say it's for to prove as we are not a robot. There are plenty of ways to do that. If you're posting a comment against a news in times of India, they give us a small addition like 5+6 =? I personally feel that's the best way for proving as I'm not a robot. Which will also workout for both visually and hearing impaired people. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem please read my mail carefully, I am concern for the person with deaf-blind not only for deaf. some of website provide clear audio, not all. -Original Message- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:22 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem The similar point has been said by Zujar Kanchwala sir some months back when the same topic is raised and now the same point is mentioned by Sheik sir: The main intension of this CAPTCHA is for keeping servers high rather making cluttering. Now a day's many sites are providing better audio CAPTCHA which can be understood properly. If the person is deaf, he / she can see and enter the code. On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the audio capture. how the deaf-blind people will access this audio captcha. accessibility means accessible to all, not to the members of accessindia. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani ji, Indeed you hold the effectual point no doubt but, rather removing the entire mechanism better if we aproach to make it accesible by developing some alternative to tackle this. let us not give up, why don't we formulate an action plan on this? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse, will obtain less than 30 and get failled. thanks and sorry. thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic. -Original Message- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani, We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to except it. For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any features / measures which are vital to the website because they are inaccessible to us. Rather than it would be good approach to notify the website administrators about it and suggest them for other alternatives. I wonder you are not aware how the website functions behind the seen. The folks studied in web development can easily understand this. If you have any contacts of web developers you can take their views regarding to this and I 100% say they will strongly disagree on your point. Finally, if you wish to know what happens if the CAPTCHA is not placed on the site, take the example of Inclusive planet website. On
Re: [AI] Ulternate of Application key
Hi, there is a simple and uncomplicated method for this. Root your jaws cursor to PC cursor by pressing jaws key + minus key on num pad. Then press the right key on the num pad, you will have the options given by the application key. Regards, Sandeep At 11:37 AM 9/11/2014, you wrote: hi, There are few options. 1. use of alternate keys. For example: pressing Shift f10. disadvantage: May not be universally applicable. A possibility of assigning the same key combination for another purpose in certain application can not be denied. 2. defining a shortcut: User can define some key combination as apps key as a shortcut. But it has a limitation. Not workable in all applications. Redefining a least usable key of the device as an apps key: This is the best and permanent solution. It creates a permanent apps keys. However, the key which is converted to apps will not be available for its original functionality. The redefining of a physical key to a particular functional keystroke can be done using key mapper software. There are few tools. 4. For the last option; either sited or not, it needs an operation of a good skill of using the key mapper tool. On 9/11/14, Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com wrote: No need to use any external application. You can explore the Keyboard Manager tool available in JAWS / Utilities. On 9/11/14, Kaifi Azmi kas...@gmail.com wrote: dear friend, you can convert any useless key to application key, with help of software called (key renaper). for this you will have to take sited assistance. thanks! On 9/10/14, Manish Sharma manishjmsha...@gmail.com wrote: hi friends Recently I purchased hp pavilion 15 n259tx notebook. It doesn't have application key. My operating software is windows 8.1. Can I create A key or a group of keys as application key with help of any software. Please provide me information. Thanks and Regards Manish Sharma. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Kaifi Azmi Email: kas...@gmail.com Skype: kaifiazmi Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/kaifi2012 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Life is like a piano. White keys are happy moments Black keys are sad moments. But remember both keys are played together to give sweet music. Focus on your abilities, not your disability. Follow me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/starhoze Skype ID: star.hoze Warm Regards, Hozefa... Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Him Prasad Gautam Kathmandu, Nepal Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
it should not be server based application like webvisum, instead work like OCR as add on. if anybody would develop such software, it would be a wonder for the entire blind cummunity. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Well, analytical questions are acceptable but my concern is rather implementing this mechanism on all sites better if we have service dedicatedly just like webvisum (not webvisum itself). AH! Indeed i'm no where bounded to the access india. that's why I said let us form a world-wide selution. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the audio capture. how the deaf-blind people will access this audio captcha. accessibility means accessible to all, not to the members of accessindia. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani ji, Indeed you hold the effectual point no doubt but, rather removing the entire mechanism better if we aproach to make it accesible by developing some alternative to tackle this. let us not give up, why don't we formulate an action plan on this? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse, will obtain less than 30 and get failled. thanks and sorry. thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic. -Original Message- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani, We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to except it. For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any features / measures which are vital to the website because they are inaccessible to us. Rather than it would be good approach to notify the website administrators about it and suggest them for other alternatives. I wonder you are not aware how the website functions behind the seen. The folks studied in web development can easily understand this. If you have any contacts of web developers you can take their views regarding to this and I 100% say they will strongly disagree on your point. Finally, if you wish to know what happens if the CAPTCHA is not placed on the site, take the example of Inclusive planet website. On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this can be done only at the data centre level where the cridentials are saved in a server of data centre. an individual should keep the antivirus upto date and only should visit genuine website. there are number of values are to be matched before financial transaction. like card no, expiry date, cvv, date of birth, pin, 3d secure password, now what is the roll of captcha their. my second question did not answer, was about incometax website. - Original Message - From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Here onething. if your personal/financial credentials are stolen, at least, an individual can never take access to these stuffs immediately. and they are stolen robotically and used on the merchant sites in the same manner. O no no indeed, I did not suggest webvisum but I had put my views comparatively. there should be a mechanism which can do the job exclusively. as suggested by kartik, there should be some analytical questions to be answered. it is very unfortunate that nobody is taking part in this critical discussion. let us hear from other folks what do they have to say on this. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia:
Re: [AI] Mailing list related to Books:
hi! u can join masews mailing list! visit, http://masews.org/mailman/listinfo/masews_masews.org On 9/11/14, Raaju bidh...@gmail.com wrote: You can even join bs...@yahoogroups.com -Original message- From: Aravind R Sent: 11/09/2014, 7:41 am To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Mailing list related to Books: join scholars_learners On 9/11/14, meharaj shaik meharajsha...@gmail.com wrote: for now I am unavair of any mailing list. but in face book, there are meny. one among is e book zoon. thanks and regards meharaj On 9/10/14, Vidhya Y vidhya@gmail.com wrote: Hi Friends, is there any mailing list for Visually challenged meant to share audio/E books related to academics and literature? Thanks and regards, Vidhya Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. r. aravind, D R O in bank of baroda, mobile no: +91 9940369593, email id : aravind_...@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- efforts may fail but don't fail to make efforts. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem it should not be server based application like webvisum, instead work like OCR as add on. if anybody would develop such software, it would be a wonder for the entire blind cummunity. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Well, analytical questions are acceptable but my concern is rather implementing this mechanism on all sites better if we have service dedicatedly just like webvisum (not webvisum itself). AH! Indeed i'm no where bounded to the access india. that's why I said let us form a world-wide selution. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the audio capture. how the deaf-blind people will access this audio captcha. accessibility means accessible to all, not to the members of accessindia. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani ji, Indeed you hold the effectual point no doubt but, rather removing the entire mechanism better if we aproach to make it accesible by developing some alternative to tackle this. let us not give up, why don't we formulate an action plan on this? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse, will obtain less than 30 and get failled. thanks and sorry. thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic. -Original Message- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani, We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to except it. For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any features / measures which are vital to the website because they are inaccessible to us. Rather than it would be good approach to notify the website administrators about it and suggest them for other alternatives. I wonder you are not aware how the website functions behind the seen. The folks studied in web development can easily understand this. If you have any contacts of web developers you can take their views regarding to this and I 100% say they will strongly disagree on your point. Finally, if you wish to know what happens if the CAPTCHA is not placed on the site, take the example of Inclusive planet website. On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this can be done only at the data centre level where the cridentials are saved in a server of data centre. an individual should keep the antivirus upto date and only should visit genuine website. there are number of values are to be matched before financial transaction. like card no, expiry date, cvv, date of birth, pin, 3d secure password, now what is the roll of captcha their. my second question did not answer, was about incometax website. - Original Message - From: Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Here onething. if your personal/financial
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
Cool. this can also be considered but, it consumes resource on each site. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem The main issue with the dedicated service is that it should be managed well for proper functioning. If the service experience down time, again we have to rely on sited person. So the best solution is to develop a mechanism on the website itself. On 9/11/14, Sheik Mohammedali shahid.se...@gmail.com wrote: Think generally. if this is the case on times of india, they will take action eventually and no doubt we could see lot of spamming comments there. simple calculation can be made through the bots very much. I have not commented there so i'm not aware much what mechanism they use. - Original Message - From: Madhumitha mdmt1...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem As a new comer, I'd like to present my opinion about this issue. Captchas are really annoying. In fact, they say it's for to prove as we are not a robot. There are plenty of ways to do that. If you're posting a comment against a news in times of India, they give us a small addition like 5+6 =? I personally feel that's the best way for proving as I'm not a robot. Which will also workout for both visually and hearing impaired people. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem please read my mail carefully, I am concern for the person with deaf-blind not only for deaf. some of website provide clear audio, not all. -Original Message- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:22 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem The similar point has been said by Zujar Kanchwala sir some months back when the same topic is raised and now the same point is mentioned by Sheik sir: The main intension of this CAPTCHA is for keeping servers high rather making cluttering. Now a day's many sites are providing better audio CAPTCHA which can be understood properly. If the person is deaf, he / she can see and enter the code. On 9/10/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the audio capture. how the deaf-blind people will access this audio captcha. accessibility means accessible to all, not to the members of accessindia. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani ji, Indeed you hold the effectual point no doubt but, rather removing the entire mechanism better if we aproach to make it accesible by developing some alternative to tackle this. let us not give up, why don't we formulate an action plan on this? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse, will obtain less than 30 and get failled. thanks and sorry. thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic. -Original Message- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani, We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to except it. For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any features / measures which are vital to the website because they are inaccessible to us. Rather than it would be good approach to notify the website administrators about it and suggest them for other alternatives. I wonder you are not aware how the website functions behind the seen. The folks studied in web development can easily understand this. If you have any
Re: [AI] Jaws V16 beta released!
Dear Alok, Here are your answers: 1. Your mail mentions that feature for remote desktop clients and citrix clients could be purchased. Is this in addition to JAWS license cost? Yes Freedom Scientific charge Rs.12400 for this facility. 2. Can this feature / service be purchased for an already installed older version of JAWS, for example, version 13 or 14? Yes you can. 3. Is any installation needed on the remote computer / server that we connect to through remote desktop for this JAWS feature to work? Yes you need to install a demo of Jaws Pro but of the same version you are using and also the same voice synthesizer like Eloquence or Sangeeta or Veena etc. In case you require any further information or clarification, please contact us and we shall be glad to provide the same. Looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks Kind Regards, Ram Agarwal -- Karishma Enterprises 132 Maker Tower B, Cuffe Parade, Mumbai - 45, INDIA Phone: (022)-22181853 Telefax: (022)-22153291 Company Email: cont...@karishmaenterprises.com Direct Email: ramagarwal...@gmail.com Website: www.KarishmaEnterprises.com -- -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Alok Kaushik Sent: 10 September 2014 20:31 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Jaws V16 beta released! Dear Mr. Ram, One of the features mentioned in your mail is a real and urgent need for me. Would like to clarify a couple of points regarding it. I need to work on several Windows based production servers using remote desktop. And JAWS does not work for remote desktop. 1. Your mail mentions that feature for remote desktop clients and citrix clients could be purchased. Is this in addition to JAWS license cost? 2. Can this feature / service be purchased for an already installed older version of JAWS, for example, version 13 or 14? 3. Is any installation needed on the remote computer / server that we connect to through remote desktop for this JAWS feature to work? Thanks. Alok - Original Message - From: Ram Agarwal ramagarwal...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:26 PM Subject: [AI] Jaws V16 beta released! Dear Friends, Freedom Scientific has today released their latest version V16 for Jaws and are giving below some of the major new features for your attention. Those of you who have the licenced versions can now purchase the SMA to take benefit of the V16 and V17 . Others who already are covered under SMA will receive their software by first week of November. For more details you can contact me. What's New in Jaws V16 Built-in Search Engine for JAWS Keystrokes JAWS provides many keystrokes to perform a variety of commands. Many commands can be performed anywhere in Windows, such as reading the window title or current line, while other commands are only available in specific applications like Microsoft Word or Internet Explorer. If you are using JAWS with a refreshable braille display, there are even JAWS commands that can be performed using the controls on the braille display. While there are certain commands that are used by the majority of JAWS users on a daily basis, such as reading the current line (INSERT+UP ARROW) or reading the current window title (INSERT+T), there are numerous commands that even the most experienced users do not use regularly and need to be looked up. Certain types of commands can be especially difficult to remember as some of them require pressing several keys at once. The JAWS Command Search feature enables you to enter a full or partial description of a command whose keystroke you do not remember. JAWS will display all commands that match your search criteria, the description of the feature, and all the associated keystrokes, including braille commands if a refreshable braille display is currently connected. For example, you may need to locate a keystroke for working with formulas in Excel. Instead of opening the JAWS help topic for Excel and searching through all of the available keystrokes, or starting Keyboard Help (INSERT+1) and pressing various keystroke combinations until you find the correct one, you can open the Search for JAWS Commands window while focused in Excel, type formulas in the search edit box, and then view a list of all keystrokes related to working with formulas. Similarly, if you are browsing the Web and you need to find the keystroke for displaying a list of headings on the current page (INSERT+F6), you can open the Search for JAWS Commands window from Internet Explorer or Firefox, type list headings in the search edit box, and this command will be the first result. To search for a command, press
Re: [AI] low vision aids for far sight
Dear Preeti, You can also visit the website www.karishmaenterprises.com for info on a wide range of low vision aids and if you need more details you can contact me. In case you require any further information or clarification, please contact us and we shall be glad to provide the same. Looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks Kind Regards, Ram Agarwal -- Karishma Enterprises 132 Maker Tower B, Cuffe Parade, Mumbai - 45, INDIA Phone: (022)-22181853 Telefax: (022)-22153291 Company Email: cont...@karishmaenterprises.com Direct Email: ramagarwal...@gmail.com Website: www.KarishmaEnterprises.com -- -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: 10 September 2014 16:55 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] low vision aids for far sight Here it is: 91 9818169160. You can tell her that Preeti Monga has given you her number. In case she does not answer on this bnumber,please drop her a text message and tell her you got her number from me and hope she will reply. Otherwise here below are the landline numbers of Shroff's Charity Eye Hospital: 0114352 and 0114352. Please call during office hours before 5 pm and ask for her or the low vision clinic. All the best. Let me know if you are not successful. I will try to get you in touch. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Bhutani Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:36 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] low vision aids for far sight I want the personal contact numbers of soniya srivastava , low vision specialist at shroff charity eye hospital , Daryaganj, New Delh As I want to contact her for low vision aids for far sight. regards preeti Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at
Re: [AI] Regarding BlueStacks
It need to install talkback with sited assistant. On Sep 9, 2014 4:25 PM, rajendra dhurve rd0...@gmail.com wrote: The very same problem I'm facing too! Bluestag doesn't speak anything. the moment we click on the Blustag cursor. It simply shows the icons on the screen but doesn't speak anything. if anybody knows about it, so please come forward with ur expert advice. Regards: RD On 9/5/14, Daphnie skinnybal...@gmail.com wrote: I got this message already. - Original Message - From: Narendra narendra.eict2...@gmail.com To: keyboardus...@googlegroups.com; sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org; n...@freelists.org; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 8:21 PM Subject: [AI] Regarding BlueStacks Dear Friends, I install BlueStacks in my windows 7 PC but I am not able to do anything. So Please Gide me Regards, Narendra VG Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Don't B A Parrot In Life, B An Eagle. A Parrot Speaks But Cant Fly High, But An Eagle Is Silent Has The Willpower 2 Touch The Sky... :) Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Jaws V16 beta released!
Dear Mr. Ram, Thanks a lot for the information. Is a demo version of this feature available using which I can test the usage through remote desktop? Thanks. Alok - Original Message - From: Ram Agarwal ramagarwal...@gmail.com To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Jaws V16 beta released! Dear Alok, Here are your answers: 1. Your mail mentions that feature for remote desktop clients and citrix clients could be purchased. Is this in addition to JAWS license cost? Yes Freedom Scientific charge Rs.12400 for this facility. 2. Can this feature / service be purchased for an already installed older version of JAWS, for example, version 13 or 14? Yes you can. 3. Is any installation needed on the remote computer / server that we connect to through remote desktop for this JAWS feature to work? Yes you need to install a demo of Jaws Pro but of the same version you are using and also the same voice synthesizer like Eloquence or Sangeeta or Veena etc. In case you require any further information or clarification, please contact us and we shall be glad to provide the same. Looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks Kind Regards, Ram Agarwal -- Karishma Enterprises 132 Maker Tower B, Cuffe Parade, Mumbai - 45, INDIA Phone: (022)-22181853 Telefax: (022)-22153291 Company Email: cont...@karishmaenterprises.com Direct Email: ramagarwal...@gmail.com Website: www.KarishmaEnterprises.com -- -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Alok Kaushik Sent: 10 September 2014 20:31 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Jaws V16 beta released! Dear Mr. Ram, One of the features mentioned in your mail is a real and urgent need for me. Would like to clarify a couple of points regarding it. I need to work on several Windows based production servers using remote desktop. And JAWS does not work for remote desktop. 1. Your mail mentions that feature for remote desktop clients and citrix clients could be purchased. Is this in addition to JAWS license cost? 2. Can this feature / service be purchased for an already installed older version of JAWS, for example, version 13 or 14? 3. Is any installation needed on the remote computer / server that we connect to through remote desktop for this JAWS feature to work? Thanks. Alok - Original Message - From: Ram Agarwal ramagarwal...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:26 PM Subject: [AI] Jaws V16 beta released! Dear Friends, Freedom Scientific has today released their latest version V16 for Jaws and are giving below some of the major new features for your attention. Those of you who have the licenced versions can now purchase the SMA to take benefit of the V16 and V17 . Others who already are covered under SMA will receive their software by first week of November. For more details you can contact me. What's New in Jaws V16 Built-in Search Engine for JAWS Keystrokes JAWS provides many keystrokes to perform a variety of commands. Many commands can be performed anywhere in Windows, such as reading the window title or current line, while other commands are only available in specific applications like Microsoft Word or Internet Explorer. If you are using JAWS with a refreshable braille display, there are even JAWS commands that can be performed using the controls on the braille display. While there are certain commands that are used by the majority of JAWS users on a daily basis, such as reading the current line (INSERT+UP ARROW) or reading the current window title (INSERT+T), there are numerous commands that even the most experienced users do not use regularly and need to be looked up. Certain types of commands can be especially difficult to remember as some of them require pressing several keys at once. The JAWS Command Search feature enables you to enter a full or partial description of a command whose keystroke you do not remember. JAWS will display all commands that match your search criteria, the description of the feature, and all the associated keystrokes, including braille commands if a refreshable braille display is currently connected. For example, you may need to locate a keystroke for working with formulas in Excel. Instead of opening the JAWS help topic for Excel and searching through all of the available keystrokes, or starting Keyboard Help (INSERT+1) and pressing various keystroke combinations until you find the correct one, you can open the Search for JAWS Commands window while focused in Excel, type formulas in the search edit box, and then view a
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem it should not be server based application like webvisum, instead work like OCR as add on. if anybody would develop such software, it would be a wonder for the entire blind cummunity. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Well, analytical questions are acceptable but my concern is rather implementing this mechanism on all sites better if we have service dedicatedly just like webvisum (not webvisum itself). AH! Indeed i'm no where bounded to the access india. that's why I said let us form a world-wide selution. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the audio capture. how the deaf-blind people will access this audio captcha. accessibility means accessible to all, not to the members of accessindia. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani ji, Indeed you hold the effectual point no doubt but, rather removing the entire mechanism better if we aproach to make it accesible by developing some alternative to tackle this. let us not give up, why don't we formulate an action plan on this? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse, will obtain less than 30 and get failled. thanks and sorry. thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic. -Original Message- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani, We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to except it. For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any features / measures which are vital to the website because they are inaccessible to us. Rather than it would be good approach to notify the website administrators about it and suggest them for other alternatives. I wonder you are not aware how the website functions behind the seen. The folks studied in web development can easily understand this. If you have any contacts of web developers you can take their views regarding to this and I 100% say they will strongly disagree on your point. Finally, if you wish to know what happens if the
[AI] any refreshable braille display users? I want to know some details about them.
hi I would like to know about refreshable braille display for my friend who had vision and hereing empairment. if any one ready to give me details, pleas give me your contact details. thanks and regards meharaj. PH: 8985982535 mail id: meharajsha...@gmail.com Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Help Requested on Learning Swimming
Hi Friends, I intend to learn swimming, whereas, I know as a fact that, lot of VIs do swim, I do not know whom to approach for getting koaching for the same. I have been to few places for inquiring about the same in Mumbai around Goregaon area, but they expressed their inability to teach to a VI. Any help in this regard shall be greatly appritiated. Thanks and warm regards, Rahul. -- Rahul Kelapure +91 9833349929 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] hindu e paper.
hay friends, today i got the attachment but it's not working, what i can doo to read it properly? On 9/7/14, kuldeep kumar kuldeep@gmail.com wrote: Dear tiper of the hindu e.paper, as u know the editorial is a voice of every newspaper. it alsow plays an importent role for its readers in behalf of subscribers i would like to request u to please type editorial alsow if posible. With best regards. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
Hi friends, I am following this thread very carefully. Before I proceed I would like to say My English is not good as Juzer and my knowledge about computers is not good as Huzefa and Sheek. The solution comes to my mind is, ?The website can take our Mobile number and can send One Time Password in form of SMS. That OTP should be re entered on the webpage. Can this method work? On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem it should not be server based application like webvisum, instead work like OCR as add on. if anybody would develop such software, it would be a wonder for the entire blind cummunity. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Well, analytical questions are acceptable but my concern is rather implementing this mechanism on all sites better if we have service dedicatedly just like webvisum (not webvisum itself). AH! Indeed i'm no where bounded to the access india. that's why I said let us form a world-wide selution. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the audio capture. how the deaf-blind people will access this audio captcha. accessibility means accessible to all, not to the members of accessindia. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani ji, Indeed you hold the effectual point no doubt but, rather removing the entire mechanism better if we aproach to make it accesible by developing some alternative to tackle this. let us not give up, why don't we formulate an action plan on this? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse, will obtain less than 30 and get failled. thanks and sorry. thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic. -Original Message- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani, We tried our best to make you understand that why the CAPTCHA is necessary to implement on the website but still you are not ready to except it. For the sake of accessibility we just can't demand to remove any features / measures which are vital to the website
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
obviously no. so what would be the next step. we have not come up with the idea yet. then where is the approaching step. there shall not be any security risk. and these private companies do not listen to others. have experienced with the freedomscientific. Hope authorised dealers can do something to approach them. many accesible devices are being published by saksham and karishma enterprises. why don't they consider this issue too? do they both involve in the developmental process? then we can do our level best. and if you say this is the chit chatt, I don't want to spare my valuable time in this. let us not put our views blindly while approaching like removal of entire captcha system. it can never be done individually. since couple of days this thread is going on and least of members took part in this. I have told you, I will standby you. else I would have refrained from this. even inclusive planet has gone down for ever due to lacking of teamwork. let us try to make it everlasting. without gathering ideas how can you approach? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem it should not be server based application like webvisum, instead work like OCR as add on. if anybody would develop such software, it would be a wonder for the entire blind cummunity. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Well, analytical questions are acceptable but my concern is rather implementing this mechanism on all sites better if we have service dedicatedly just like webvisum (not webvisum itself). AH! Indeed i'm no where bounded to the access india. that's why I said let us form a world-wide selution. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the audio capture. how the deaf-blind people will access this audio captcha. accessibility means accessible to all, not to the members of accessindia. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani ji, Indeed you hold the effectual point no doubt but, rather removing the entire mechanism better if we aproach to make it accesible by developing some alternative to tackle this. let us not give up, why don't we formulate an action plan on this? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove the entire
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
Fine it would do the best. I think in gmail already it has been facilatated what zoher said. captcha is optional there. - Original Message - From: Zoher Kheriwala zos...@gmail.com FTo: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Hi friends, I am following this thread very carefully. Before I proceed I would like to say My English is not good as Juzer and my knowledge about computers is not good as Huzefa and Sheek. The solution comes to my mind is, ?The website can take our Mobile number and can send One Time Password in form of SMS. That OTP should be re entered on the webpage. Can this method work? On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem it should not be server based application like webvisum, instead work like OCR as add on. if anybody would develop such software, it would be a wonder for the entire blind cummunity. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Well, analytical questions are acceptable but my concern is rather implementing this mechanism on all sites better if we have service dedicatedly just like webvisum (not webvisum itself). AH! Indeed i'm no where bounded to the access india. that's why I said let us form a world-wide selution. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the audio capture. how the deaf-blind people will access this audio captcha. accessibility means accessible to all, not to the members of accessindia. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani ji, Indeed you hold the effectual point no doubt but, rather removing the entire mechanism better if we aproach to make it accesible by developing some alternative to tackle this. let us not give up, why don't we formulate an action plan on this? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse, will obtain less than 30 and get failled. thanks and sorry. thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic. -Original Message- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
Re: [AI] hindu e paper.
They are sending 2 papers one is thamil version of hindu another one is the original english news paper, so, make sure that your open the right one. Thank you. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Eyeway's job alert
Hi All: There is 1 post for V.I. as Assistant Teacher in Cantonment Board Office, Delhi Cantonment, Delhi Cantt. Qualification: (1)Sr. Secondary (10+2) or intermediate passed or its equivalent from a recognised Board. (2) Two years diploma or certificate course in elementary Teachers Education Course/Junior Basic Training or Bachelor or Elementary Educational or equivalent from a recognized Institution. (3) Must have passed Hindi as a subject at Secondary level. (4) Clearance of Central Teacher Eligibility Test as a part of minimum essential qualification from Central Board of Secondary Education. Last date for applying is 26th of September. Far areas 5th October. More at http://www.eyeway.org/?q=jobs or 6 September employment News page 19 -- ** Best,Binni Kumari|Helpdesk Executive! Score Foundation 17/107, Basement, Vikram Vihar, Lajpatnagar 4, New Delhi 110024, INDIA. Helpdesk:+91 - 11 - 460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm) Office Phone: +91 - 11 - 26472582/81 Email:bi...@eyeway.org Websites: scorefoundation.org.in http://www.scorefoundation.org.in/ www.eyeway.org ** http://www.youtube.com/user/eyewayindiahttps://twitter.com/friendsofeyeway https://www.facebook.com/projecteyeway Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
Hi, It would be better to give a representation before proper authority for removal of captcha from all websites and left the headache of security on their part. For developing new or alternate security of Websites they have skilled IT professionals. Our aim should be to get rid of this irritating captcha which is a big hurdle in accessibility. I have to daily solve 10-15 captcha in my office. Its very difficult and irritating to take sighted help each time. However We don't need to solve any captcha in using SBI net banking.Does it mean that SBI has compromised with their websites security? I think SBI has made some alternate provisions instead of using captcha for security Then why not other developers can do the same. Thanks, Jyotsna On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem it should not be server based application like webvisum, instead work like OCR as add on. if anybody would develop such software, it would be a wonder for the entire blind cummunity. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Well, analytical questions are acceptable but my concern is rather implementing this mechanism on all sites better if we have service dedicatedly just like webvisum (not webvisum itself). AH! Indeed i'm no where bounded to the access india. that's why I said let us form a world-wide selution. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the audio capture. how the deaf-blind people will access this audio captcha. accessibility means accessible to all, not to the members of accessindia. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani ji, Indeed you hold the effectual point no doubt but, rather removing the entire mechanism better if we aproach to make it accesible by developing some alternative to tackle this. let us not give up, why don't we formulate an action plan on this? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse, will obtain less than 30 and get failled. thanks and sorry. thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic. -Original Message- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
make him understand. coming to your point, while resetting your login password state bank of india also asks captcha. even though we provide our account number, mobile number and date of birth one time security password is also sent. - Original Message - From: Jyotsna jyotsnadi...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Hi, It would be better to give a representation before proper authority for removal of captcha from all websites and left the headache of security on their part. For developing new or alternate security of Websites they have skilled IT professionals. Our aim should be to get rid of this irritating captcha which is a big hurdle in accessibility. I have to daily solve 10-15 captcha in my office. Its very difficult and irritating to take sighted help each time. However We don't need to solve any captcha in using SBI net banking.Does it mean that SBI has compromised with their websites security? I think SBI has made some alternate provisions instead of using captcha for security Then why not other developers can do the same. Thanks, Jyotsna On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem it should not be server based application like webvisum, instead work like OCR as add on. if anybody would develop such software, it would be a wonder for the entire blind cummunity. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Well, analytical questions are acceptable but my concern is rather implementing this mechanism on all sites better if we have service dedicatedly just like webvisum (not webvisum itself). AH! Indeed i'm no where bounded to the access india. that's why I said let us form a world-wide selution. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the audio capture. how the deaf-blind people will access this audio captcha. accessibility means accessible to all, not to the members of accessindia. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani ji, Indeed you hold the effectual point no doubt but, rather removing the entire mechanism better if we aproach to make it accesible by developing some alternative to tackle this. let us not give up, why don't we formulate an action plan on this? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove the entire capture. I
[AI] Fwd: RiVO for iPhone VoiceOver is now available in 20 languages
Thought some might find this interesting. Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 (US), +91-9958499435 (India) E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com, karti...@stanford.edu Skype: kartik.sawhney22 -- Forwarded message -- From: RiVO Connection rivo.connect...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:48:28 +0900 Subject: RiVO for iPhone VoiceOver is now available in 20 languages To: RiVO Connection rivo.connect...@gmail.com Sorry for the inconvenience, this is an information email sent just once. Hi, We are trying to reach as many visually challenged people as possible who might have never heard of RiVO for iPhone VoiceOver, which is currently available in 20 language versions. Briefly, RiVO is a portable Bluetooth keyboard about the size of a credit card. Being designed for blind or visually impaired users of iPhone, it supports VoiceOver, text typing and editing, music and audio control. RiVO is a smart keyboard to use iPhone easily quickly and precisely to make the most out of it. Smartphone is an important tool for everyone alike. We wish whoever has difficulty with touchscreen also become good at using smartphone and great apps to find greater possibilities in their lives. For more information about RiVO, please visit RiVO homepage at http://mobience.com/rivo Thanks. Best wishes, RiVO Team at Mobience Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Eyeway's job alert
Sir i am partha borah. I want to get your sms service my mobile number is 9717815545 On 11 Sep 2014 17:04, Eyeway Helpdesk helpd...@eyeway.org wrote: Hi All: There is 1 post for V.I. as Assistant Teacher in Cantonment Board Office, Delhi Cantonment, Delhi Cantt. Qualification: (1)Sr. Secondary (10+2) or intermediate passed or its equivalent from a recognised Board. (2) Two years diploma or certificate course in elementary Teachers Education Course/Junior Basic Training or Bachelor or Elementary Educational or equivalent from a recognized Institution. (3) Must have passed Hindi as a subject at Secondary level. (4) Clearance of Central Teacher Eligibility Test as a part of minimum essential qualification from Central Board of Secondary Education. Last date for applying is 26th of September. Far areas 5th October. More at http://www.eyeway.org/?q=jobs or 6 September employment News page 19 -- ** Best,Binni Kumari|Helpdesk Executive! Score Foundation 17/107, Basement, Vikram Vihar, Lajpatnagar 4, New Delhi 110024, INDIA. Helpdesk:+91 - 11 - 460 70 380 (Monday to Friday 10am to 5pm) Office Phone: +91 - 11 - 26472582/81 Email:bi...@eyeway.org Websites: scorefoundation.org.in http://www.scorefoundation.org.in/ www.eyeway.org ** http://www.youtube.com/user/eyewayindia https://twitter.com/friendsofeyeway https://www.facebook.com/projecteyeway Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] hindu e paper.
actually it is in HTML formatte. you have to open it in a web brouser. On 9/11/14, timy sebastian timys...@gmail.com wrote: They are sending 2 papers one is thamil version of hindu another one is the original english news paper, so, make sure that your open the right one. Thank you. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Regarding BlueStacks
Talkback!! What is it? Does it remains in the Bluestag setup itself?? I never saw any type of Talkback while installing the bluestag. Regards: RD On 9/11/14, anil kumar artprat...@gmail.com wrote: It need to install talkback with sited assistant. On Sep 9, 2014 4:25 PM, rajendra dhurve rd0...@gmail.com wrote: The very same problem I'm facing too! Bluestag doesn't speak anything. the moment we click on the Blustag cursor. It simply shows the icons on the screen but doesn't speak anything. if anybody knows about it, so please come forward with ur expert advice. Regards: RD On 9/5/14, Daphnie skinnybal...@gmail.com wrote: I got this message already. - Original Message - From: Narendra narendra.eict2...@gmail.com To: keyboardus...@googlegroups.com; sayeveryth...@sayeverything.org; n...@freelists.org; accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 8:21 PM Subject: [AI] Regarding BlueStacks Dear Friends, I install BlueStacks in my windows 7 PC but I am not able to do anything. So Please Gide me Regards, Narendra VG Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Don't B A Parrot In Life, B An Eagle. A Parrot Speaks But Cant Fly High, But An Eagle Is Silent Has The Willpower 2 Touch The Sky... :) Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Don't B A Parrot In Life, B An Eagle. A Parrot Speaks But Cant Fly High, But An Eagle Is Silent Has The Willpower 2 Touch The Sky... :) Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs
[AI] JNU introduces 'Digital voting system' for visually-challenged
http://www.gmail.com/ In a first, the Election Committee of Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) will introduced a 'Digital Voting System' for visually-challenged students in the students' union elections slated for September 12. We are going to introduce Digital Voting System for visually-challenged students for the first time, according to a statement by Dileep Maurya, chairperson of the JNU Election Committee. This is for the first time that an alternative voting system is being introduced in the JNUSU elections. Around 80 students enrolled in several courses will benefit through digital voting. This is a very effective step. We appreciate this move by The Election Commission, said Mohib Anwar, a PhD student and representative of the Visually Challenged Students' Forum in JNU. Days after the Election Committee was constituted, representatives of the forum and visually-challenged students had held a protest on the campus demanding accessible voting rights in the union elections. Previously, JNU had implemented 'Braille ballot' in the Gender Sensitisation Committee Against Sexual Harassment (GSCASH) in the previous academic session, Anwar said -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
this method is already working in various internet bank and payment gateway websites. but, only numeric code should be sent to the mobile number. - Original Message - From: Zoher Kheriwala zos...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Hi friends, I am following this thread very carefully. Before I proceed I would like to say My English is not good as Juzer and my knowledge about computers is not good as Huzefa and Sheek. The solution comes to my mind is, ?The website can take our Mobile number and can send One Time Password in form of SMS. That OTP should be re entered on the webpage. Can this method work? On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem it should not be server based application like webvisum, instead work like OCR as add on. if anybody would develop such software, it would be a wonder for the entire blind cummunity. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Well, analytical questions are acceptable but my concern is rather implementing this mechanism on all sites better if we have service dedicatedly just like webvisum (not webvisum itself). AH! Indeed i'm no where bounded to the access india. that's why I said let us form a world-wide selution. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the audio capture. how the deaf-blind people will access this audio captcha. accessibility means accessible to all, not to the members of accessindia. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani ji, Indeed you hold the effectual point no doubt but, rather removing the entire mechanism better if we aproach to make it accesible by developing some alternative to tackle this. let us not give up, why don't we formulate an action plan on this? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem ok then I should withdraw my petition from ccpd. where I demanded to remove the entire capture. I am sorry if would not demand to remove the entire capture, they will do nothing even for alternate solution. if you will demand for 100% you will achieve 80 or 90% if you will demand 60% ofcourse, will obtain less than 30 and get failled. thanks and sorry. thank you, now I am to say nothing on this topic. -Original Message- From: Hozefa Tambawala Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:16 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing
[AI] Interesting Study: Unique brain mechanism helps learning hand gestures even for blind
study has suggested that a unique mechanism work in the brain helps in understanding and learning hand gestures even for blind people. The study conducted by Japanese researchers showed that a region of the neural network that recognizes others' hand gestures is formed in the same way even without visual information. http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/unique-brain-mechanism-helps-learning-hand-gestures-even-for-blind-114090700281_1.html The study showed that human brain mechanism perceived human bodies from inanimate objects and showed a particular response. The research group was able to pinpoint a common activated brain region regardless of visual experience and it also revealed that a region showing signs of activity that was dependent on the duration of the visual experience and it was also learned that this region functions as a supplement when recognizing hand gestures. Assistant Professor Ryo Kitada of the National Institute for Physiological Sciences, National Institutes of Natural Sciences, said that many individuals were active in many parts of the society even with the loss of their sight as a child. Kitada added that developmental psychology had been advancing its doctrine based on sighted individuals. The study is published in The Journal of Neuroscience. We r -- Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] mailing list about books
how should i join scholars_learners mailing list Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Regarding BlueStacks
After installing bluestag, you have to take sighted help for downloading and installing talkback from the play store. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] JNU introduces 'Digital voting system' for visually-challenged
I am sorry for wrong link. Here is the link for the news. http://www.dnaindia.com/delhi/report-jnu-introduces-digital-voting-system-for-visually-challenged-2017645 On 9/11/14, Mohib Anwar Rafel mohibra...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.gmail.com/ In a first, the Election Committee of Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) will introduced a 'Digital Voting System' for visually-challenged students in the students' union elections slated for September 12. We are going to introduce Digital Voting System for visually-challenged students for the first time, according to a statement by Dileep Maurya, chairperson of the JNU Election Committee. This is for the first time that an alternative voting system is being introduced in the JNUSU elections. Around 80 students enrolled in several courses will benefit through digital voting. This is a very effective step. We appreciate this move by The Election Commission, said Mohib Anwar, a PhD student and representative of the Visually Challenged Students' Forum in JNU. Days after the Election Committee was constituted, representatives of the forum and visually-challenged students had held a protest on the campus demanding accessible voting rights in the union elections. Previously, JNU had implemented 'Braille ballot' in the Gender Sensitisation Committee Against Sexual Harassment (GSCASH) in the previous academic session, Anwar said -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Urgent please, Looking for option of auto signout in gmail after sending mail
Can we really do that? What I do is, after sending any mail, in the same page I take links list by pressing 'Insert + F7'. There by pressing letters s and i simultaneously it will go to the option signout. I just press enter on that. That's it done. I thought it is the easiest way. If there is any option for auto signout that is great then! Even I would like to do that. Pinky Gupta mysore-Original message- From: Mohib Anwar Rafel Sent: 08/09/2014, 12:29 pm To: accessindia Subject: [AI] Urgent please, Looking for option of auto signout in gmail after sending mail Hi friends I am in urgent need of such feature in gmail basic html view that the gmail account should be automatically signed off as soon I finish sending a mail to somebody. In other words, if I send a mail to somebody, my gmail account should be logged off automatically in stead of returning back to my inbox. Or the option of Any timer that could enable auto sign out after few seconds of sending a mail will also do the trick. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Urgent please, Looking for option of auto signout in gmail after sending mail
Can we really do that? What I do is, after sending any mail, in the same page I take links list by pressing 'Insert + F7'. There by pressing letters s and i simultaneously it will go to the option signout. I just press enter on that. That's it done. I thought it is the easiest way. If there is any option for auto signout that is great then! Even I would like to do that. Pinky Gupta mysore-Original message- From: Mohib Anwar Rafel Sent: 08/09/2014, 12:29 pm To: accessindia Subject: [AI] Urgent please, Looking for option of auto signout in gmail after sending mail Hi friends I am in urgent need of such feature in gmail basic html view that the gmail account should be automatically signed off as soon I finish sending a mail to somebody. In other words, if I send a mail to somebody, my gmail account should be logged off automatically in stead of returning back to my inbox. Or the option of Any timer that could enable auto sign out after few seconds of sending a mail will also do the trick. -- Mohib Anwar Rafel M.Phil 2011, LL.M 2013 Ph.D Candidate, at Jawaharlal Nehru University Delhi, India Phone: 09211192333, 0926800 Skype: mohibrafel Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
Yes. Mobile verification can be a good option. Gmail uses this option in 2-step verification process if enabled in your account. Otherwise, it only asks for your username and password to get you into your account. E-mail verification can also be considered. Like instead of asking user to enter the CAPTCHA first, the website may prompt the user to enter the e-mail address so that the website can send the code on that mail address. When this is done, the site can expect the code from the user. @Jyotsna, As said several times, CAPTCHA is not implemented only for security reasons. It is placed for other reasons as well like to reduce the load on the server. On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this method is already working in various internet bank and payment gateway websites. but, only numeric code should be sent to the mobile number. - Original Message - From: Zoher Kheriwala zos...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Hi friends, I am following this thread very carefully. Before I proceed I would like to say My English is not good as Juzer and my knowledge about computers is not good as Huzefa and Sheek. The solution comes to my mind is, ?The website can take our Mobile number and can send One Time Password in form of SMS. That OTP should be re entered on the webpage. Can this method work? On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem it should not be server based application like webvisum, instead work like OCR as add on. if anybody would develop such software, it would be a wonder for the entire blind cummunity. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Well, analytical questions are acceptable but my concern is rather implementing this mechanism on all sites better if we have service dedicatedly just like webvisum (not webvisum itself). AH! Indeed i'm no where bounded to the access india. that's why I said let us form a world-wide selution. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the audio capture. how the deaf-blind people will access this audio captcha. accessibility means accessible to all, not to the members of accessindia. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhawani ji, Indeed you hold the effectual point no doubt but, rather removing the entire mechanism better if we aproach to make it accesible by developing some alternative to tackle this. let us not give up, why don't we formulate an action plan on this? - Original Message - From:
Re: [AI] Help Requested on Learning Swimming
better to enquire in jolly jimkhana at Vidyavihar. On 9/11/14, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Friends, I intend to learn swimming, whereas, I know as a fact that, lot of VIs do swim, I do not know whom to approach for getting koaching for the same. I have been to few places for inquiring about the same in Mumbai around Goregaon area, but they expressed their inability to teach to a VI. Any help in this regard shall be greatly appritiated. Thanks and warm regards, Rahul. -- Rahul Kelapure +91 9833349929 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Impact Positive Change, Share Your Perspective-
All Forwarding a mail which did not get to the list. Regards Harish. -Original Message- From: Sushmeetha [mailto:sushmee...@ascentnetworks.net] Sent: 03 September 2014 15:27 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Impact Positive Change, Share Your Perspective- last date 15th September Dear List Members Kindly read below complete in the survey. Dear Student, Community Business is a leading not-for-profit organisation with a mission ‘to lead, inspire and support businesses to have a positive impact on people and communities’. We are pleased to be working with leading companies in India who are committed to removing barriers to inclusion and creating more employment opportunities for students with disabilities. If you are a university student or recent graduate with a disability or long-term health condition, we want to find out more about you – what you are looking for in an employer, your concerns and what support you need to be successful. The information you share will be instrumental in encouraging and advising companies how to position themselves as an employer of choice to the disabled student community across India. We warmly invite you to share your perspectives and experiences. You can do this by completing our short online survey. The information gathered by this survey shall remain confidential with us. For more information, see below: Online Survey (Deadline for completion: Monday 15 September) A quick and easy way for you to share your views is to complete our online survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/disabilitydeliverable. This should take you no more than 15 minutes to complete - and is fully accessible. Through a series of 10 core questions we are seeking to understand how you select an employer and what is important to you. This is a unique opportunity for you to impact positive change in India – particularly as it relates to removing barriers to inclusion and increasing employment opportunities for students with disabilities. We hope you will seize the opportunity! To learn more about the initiative, visit: www.communitybusiness.org/DIANIndia/DisabilityDeliverable. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us by sending an email to sandy.c...@communitybusiness.org. Best regards Sandy Sandy Chan 陈惠珊 Programme Manager 策划经理 Community Business社商贤汇 21/F., Hing Lung Commercial Building, 68 Bonham Strand, Sheung Wan, Hong Kong Direct: +852 2201 1816 | General: +852 2152 1889 | Mobile: +852 6421 2677 Email: sandy.c...@communitybusiness.org Follow on Twitter | Follow on LinkedIn Community Business is a not-for-profit organisation whose mission is to lead, inspire and support businesses to improve their positive impact on people and communities. For more information please see http://www.communitybusiness.org. 社商賢匯是一家非牟利機構，其使命是領導、啟發及支持商界實踐企業社會責任，發揮企業對人群和社區的正面影響。 Best Regards, Sushmeetha B. Bubna │ Founder Director Voice Vision 103, Synthofine Estate,’ A’- Wing, Off Aarey Road, Goregaon (E), Mumbai – 400 063. Work Phone: +91 22 4040 │ Fax: +91 22 40400123 │ Hand Phone: +91 9820566010 Email: sushmee...@voicevision.in │ Web: www.voicevision.in Facebook www.facebook.com/voicevisionfans Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful. Current Events: Read my blog on shopping experience with and without eyesight @ http://voicevision.in/content/shopping-experience-and-without-eyesight - Voice Vision,Mumbai,India .. .. Support us for Ripple Live Awards by clicking on the below link to caste your vote. https://www.gudville.com/app?a=pt_tk_actn_v11oi=wWpPmpHKSxJGkFh7nEivnLmFjMcY3cseei=hnBi%2F7BLPgg%2FqbKmOmrMcdjgEw3grq2wra=opty_sh_lg Visit our website at http://www.voicevision.in Join us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/voicevisionfans Or follow us on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/voicevision_in List mailing list l...@voicevision.in For list guidelines other subscription changes visit http://voicevision.in/mailman/listinfo/list_voicevision.in - Voice Vision,Mumbai,India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
An image with distorted text on it is just one of the ways of implementing CAPTCHA. This is very popular primarily because it is independent of user specific data and also has become easy to implement due to readily available image generation API to developers. Some of the better accessible alternatives that can be adopted and implemented include: 1. Mobile/Email OTP or a combination of both 2. Random easy-to-solve mathematical or logical quiz 3. Login activity to be a 2 step process like HDFC bank's netbanking site where user enters User ID in the first step and in the second step the site displays site provided fetched data for user identification which the user has to agree and enter login password to successfully login. Option 1 depends on availability of user data with the site and is error-prone if changed whereas options 2 and 3 are independent of user data. Also, solving CAPTCHA can be made unrequired like LinkedIn where it is required only after 2 unsuccessful login attempts. Users entering correct credentials are not burdened with solving CAPTCHA. List members using various sites may have come across more alternatives to inaccessible image-based CAPTCHA (other than audio-based) which they can share for making a better presentation to the authorities. It is also a valid suggestion to enhance the OCR to recognize image-based CAPTCHA if the site hasn't implemented any other mechanism, not sure of the technical challenges that may come up in doing so and the rate of success it can achieve. Best Regards, Zujar.. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Hozefa Tambawala Sent: 11 September 2014 09:32 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Yes. Mobile verification can be a good option. Gmail uses this option in 2-step verification process if enabled in your account. Otherwise, it only asks for your username and password to get you into your account. E-mail verification can also be considered. Like instead of asking user to enter the CAPTCHA first, the website may prompt the user to enter the e-mail address so that the website can send the code on that mail address. When this is done, the site can expect the code from the user. @Jyotsna, As said several times, CAPTCHA is not implemented only for security reasons. It is placed for other reasons as well like to reduce the load on the server. On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this method is already working in various internet bank and payment gateway websites. but, only numeric code should be sent to the mobile number. - Original Message - From: Zoher Kheriwala zos...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Hi friends, I am following this thread very carefully. Before I proceed I would like to say My English is not good as Juzer and my knowledge about computers is not good as Huzefa and Sheek. The solution comes to my mind is, ?The website can take our Mobile number and can send One Time Password in form of SMS. That OTP should be re entered on the webpage. Can this method work? On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11,
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
O! email verification is again risky since bots can operate vendour's mails unlike person's mobile phone. that's true. we do not find many internet banking users like credit/debit card where you can even save your credentials apart from your CVV unlike netbanking. where we have much traffic there captcha is compulsory especially where you will have to provide inputs and submit. No site has left captcha while filling the form while applying for govt job right? Hmm. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Yes. Mobile verification can be a good option. Gmail uses this option in 2-step verification process if enabled in your account. Otherwise, it only asks for your username and password to get you into your account. E-mail verification can also be considered. Like instead of asking user to enter the CAPTCHA first, the website may prompt the user to enter the e-mail address so that the website can send the code on that mail address. When this is done, the site can expect the code from the user. @Jyotsna, As said several times, CAPTCHA is not implemented only for security reasons. It is placed for other reasons as well like to reduce the load on the server. On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this method is already working in various internet bank and payment gateway websites. but, only numeric code should be sent to the mobile number. - Original Message - From: Zoher Kheriwala zos...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Hi friends, I am following this thread very carefully. Before I proceed I would like to say My English is not good as Juzer and my knowledge about computers is not good as Huzefa and Sheek. The solution comes to my mind is, ?The website can take our Mobile number and can send One Time Password in form of SMS. That OTP should be re entered on the webpage. Can this method work? On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem it should not be server based application like webvisum, instead work like OCR as add on. if anybody would develop such software, it would be a wonder for the entire blind cummunity. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Well, analytical questions are acceptable but my concern is rather implementing this mechanism on all sites better if we have service dedicatedly just like webvisum (not webvisum itself). AH! Indeed i'm no where bounded to the access india. that's why I said let us form a world-wide selution. - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem yes, I would be the firtst to join your action. but, suggest a logical solution. I am also against the
Re: [AI] Fwd: Invitation: National Conference and Exhibition on 'ICTs for Persons with Disabilities
You are right. Sadly it was held for targetted delegates/students. I would have loved to inform the list earlier but myself got to know at the 11th hour. Majority of them came, had sumptuous food at 4Star Hotel and flew back to their respective places. Aah, I also went there but not as a technologist but as a student/researcher/observer. We posed questions, and government representatives as usuals ran away from responding hard questions. For example, to one of my questions, MS Stuti Kakkar did not find any link between Disability certification and employment. But she and her department is well-aware that NGOs have their own stake and could be made silent and convinced by connivance, but students specially from JNU/DU will always ask questions which are of serious nature and of greater concern. NGOs displayed their products and provided justification for their better marketability. Big players known in the accessible technology arena in the disability sector, lamented the fact that why persons with disabilities do not wish to buy products and want technologies reach them 'free of cost'? They advocated for business model which would drive innovation. Technology was discussed, its inaccessibility and way forward was deliberated upon. Apart from galaxy of technology experts, IITs' professors and NGO representatives , Two responsible personalities from the government spoke on the occasion, RCI Chairperson and Secretary Department of Disability Affairs. It was first innitiative taken by UNESCO perhaps and they will be bringing recommendations emerged out of the conference in print/electronic soon. Remember next big 'brainstorming' will be at India International Centre in Late November. On 9/8/14, mukesh jain mukesh.jai...@gmail.com wrote: hello, i fully secand the views. this is the great concern i have faced so far that information is mostly reached about such events to the candidates at a very short notice. perhapes this might be because the organisers have already targeted the expected number of participants. what so ever the reasons may be, wishes are there for it's grand success. even myself would have surely attended this event if would be known in advance. thank you, On 9/8/14, Parmala Bhat parimala2...@gmail.com wrote: well, it is good to know that such conferences are organised. . now a days there are many new concepts are coming up and it is very essential for the people working with ngOs to gain knowledge and share ideas I would have surely attended the conference if I had known earlier. - Original Message - From: avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 2:11 PM Subject: [AI] Fwd: Invitation: National Conference and Exhibition on 'ICTs for Persons with Disabilities -- Forwarded message -- From: Pratiksha Baxi pratiksha.b...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 23:29:54 +0530 Subject: Fwd: Invitation: National Conference and Exhibition on 'ICTs for Persons with Disabilities To: Abdul Hafiz Gandhi abdulhafizgan...@gmail.com, Anant Prakash Narayan anit...@gmail.com, Anu Sharma anuharitha...@gmail.com, Avinash Shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com, Chubatila Ozukum ati.ozu...@gmail.com, Debajanee Bora debajaneeb...@gmail.com, Deblina Dey deblina_de...@yahoo.co.in, deep chatterjee motherwars...@gmail.com, Harpreet Kaur Azad harpreetkaurdy...@gmail.com, Jayakrishnan PK jkrishna...@gmail.com, K.S.Rajesh Kumar ksrajeshkumar...@gmail.com, Madhavi Shukla madhavi.n...@gmail.com, Manpreet Dhillon dhillon.n...@gmail.com, Nikita Audichya audichya.2...@gmail.com, Piya Srinivasan piyasriniva...@gmail.com, Priya Mathur prialwaysonm...@gmail.com, Rahela Khorakiwala rahel...@gmail.com, Rahul.N rahul.nc...@gmail.com, Rajesh Kumar raajj...@gmail.com, Rebecca John johnrebe...@gmail.com, Shrimoyee Nandini Ghosh shrimo...@gmail.com, Susanta Kumar Mallick susanta...@gmail.com, Swastee Ranjan swastee.ran...@gmail.com, Umesh. O umesh.kadampa...@gmail.com -- Forwarded message -- From: Syed Kazi syedkazi@gmail.com Date: 7 September 2014 23:28 Subject: Invitation: National Conference and Exhibition on 'ICTs for Persons with Disabilities To: *National Conference and Exhibition on* *'ICTs for Persons with Disabilities: * *Taking Stock and Identifying Opportunities'* The Hans Hotel, 15 Barakhamba Road, New Delhi, on 9-10 September 2014 9:00 AM - 6:00 PM *Key Sessions* *September 9, 2014* Session 1: Aspirations of Youth Session 2: ICTs for Inclusive K-12 Education Session 3: ICTs for Inclusive Higher Education *September 10, 2014* Session 5: Employment and Professional Growth for PWDs in an ICT- enabled economy Session 6: ICT-enabled Participation of PWDs in Arts and Cultural Life PROGRAMME ATTACHED -- -- Pratiksha Baxi Associate Professor Centre for the Study
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
So, we have three significant selutions. OCR, OTP on Mobile and analytical questions which can never be compromised with the bots. - Original Message - From: Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala zujarbri...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem An image with distorted text on it is just one of the ways of implementing CAPTCHA. This is very popular primarily because it is independent of user specific data and also has become easy to implement due to readily available image generation API to developers. Some of the better accessible alternatives that can be adopted and implemented include: 1. Mobile/Email OTP or a combination of both 2. Random easy-to-solve mathematical or logical quiz 3. Login activity to be a 2 step process like HDFC bank's netbanking site where user enters User ID in the first step and in the second step the site displays site provided fetched data for user identification which the user has to agree and enter login password to successfully login. Option 1 depends on availability of user data with the site and is error-prone if changed whereas options 2 and 3 are independent of user data. Also, solving CAPTCHA can be made unrequired like LinkedIn where it is required only after 2 unsuccessful login attempts. Users entering correct credentials are not burdened with solving CAPTCHA. List members using various sites may have come across more alternatives to inaccessible image-based CAPTCHA (other than audio-based) which they can share for making a better presentation to the authorities. It is also a valid suggestion to enhance the OCR to recognize image-based CAPTCHA if the site hasn't implemented any other mechanism, not sure of the technical challenges that may come up in doing so and the rate of success it can achieve. Best Regards, Zujar.. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Hozefa Tambawala Sent: 11 September 2014 09:32 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Yes. Mobile verification can be a good option. Gmail uses this option in 2-step verification process if enabled in your account. Otherwise, it only asks for your username and password to get you into your account. E-mail verification can also be considered. Like instead of asking user to enter the CAPTCHA first, the website may prompt the user to enter the e-mail address so that the website can send the code on that mail address. When this is done, the site can expect the code from the user. @Jyotsna, As said several times, CAPTCHA is not implemented only for security reasons. It is placed for other reasons as well like to reduce the load on the server. On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this method is already working in various internet bank and payment gateway websites. but, only numeric code should be sent to the mobile number. - Original Message - From: Zoher Kheriwala zos...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Hi friends, I am following this thread very carefully. Before I proceed I would like to say My English is not good as Juzer and my knowledge about computers is not good as Huzefa and Sheek. The solution comes to my mind is, ?The website can take our Mobile number and can send One Time Password in form of SMS. That OTP should be re entered on the webpage. Can this method work? On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in
[AI] excel question
Friends, In d8 I have 18136.5 which is sum of b8 and c8. I tried to round it to the nearest digit, that is, 18137. After typing =round(d8,0) I am getting the folowing error. Microsoft Office Excel Circular Reference Warning One or more formulas contain a circular reference and may not calculate correctly. Circular references are any references within a formula that depend upon the results of that same formula. For example, a cell that refers to its own value or a cell that refers to another cell which depends on the original cell's value both contain circular references. For more information about understanding, finding, and removing circular references, click OK. If you want to create a circular reference, click Cancel to continue. Please let me know how to write more than one formulae in a cel, and also, where I am wrong? Thanks. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] (no subject)
you can find notepadand volume cuntrol in accessri submenu from all program submenu hope its work thank you with regards On 9/11/14, sana samad sanasamad...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/9/14, Surinder suna1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have installed Windows7 Professional edition on my PC. Could please someone guide me as to where can I find Note pad and System volume control in the start menu? Thanks Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Type Volume in search box. You will get all the options for volume. Note pad is in programmes. Open programmes and then accessaries there you will find note pad. If you are unable to find then type in the search box notepad. You will get it. When you press windows key then search box appears at the top. Regards Sana Samad Phone No.- 9899467078 Email Id: sanasamad...@gmail.com (All personal/academic mails)) Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Was ur gmail account compromised?
Russian hackers released 5 mn passwords. This is one of the biggest security breach incidents that has been reported in the recent past. To check if ur gmail id was compromised, i recommend the website of this Australian Security Advisor. Please use if you would like: https://haveibeenpwned.com/ Hope this helps. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Blind star convention
Dear Friends,Greetings!I am sure you must be aware with our Blind Stars group on Facebook. Wealong with Antardrishti jointly organizing our first ever nationalconvention of visually impaired people in Agra. The convention named asBlind Stars Beyond Face book – Bridging the Gap will be a three day event,packed with brainstorming sessions, group discussions on variety ofsubjects concerning empowerment of visually impaired and culturalperformances by visually impaired artists.The convention will be a fabulous gathering of host of visually impairedprofessionals in many disciplines, artists, musicians, academicians andactivists. After having a high quality exchange of ideas and experiencesthe convention will also issue an Agra Declaration. Besides delegates therewill be huge participation of noted ophthalmologists, representatives ofeye care related professionals, journalists, bureaucrats and members ofcivil society.Important info:1. Event Date: 7 to 9 November 20142. Venue: Agra3. Registration fee: Rs. 500/-4. Last date of Registration: 30 September 2014for participation and more information check our website athttp://blindstars.orgBlind Star Group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/blindstar/Event Page of Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/1492858797631923/Looking forward to see you in Agra for better Tomorrow.ThanksRegards Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] kushanas
-- Kind Regard Name:Lovely Kumar Grover Email id:lovelygrove...@gmail.com Mobile:08527006353 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] kushanas
-- Kind Regard Name:Lovely Kumar Grover Email id:lovelygrove...@gmail.com Mobile:08527006353 Hello to all. How are you all? I need your help in the reading material. If anyone has material on kushanas. Please, share... Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Receipt of Hindu
Dear Members, last week I subscribed to the Braille ACL and from 11th September I started receiving a copy of the Hindu in HTML Form. It is fully accessible and I could read the full paper. Thanks for this service. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar Telephone: 0251-2438457 Mobile: +91 9920410788 Skype ID- sayanekar Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Paper of Interest: Naming, blaming and claiming ablism: the lived experiences of lawyers and advocates with disabilities
Very thought-provoking and engaging read. http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09687599.2014.923749 Abstract The social model explains that different abilities are not the true cause of disablement. Ablist institutions and practices construct a certain level of ability as disability. How do people respond when they are being disabled by society? This study analyses how 28 advocates and lawyers with disabilities respond when they confront ablism. This study employs the naming, blaming and claiming model to map the conduct of 28 lawyers and advocates with disabilities from Australia, the United Kingdom and the United States. Despite their empowered position, participants often did not claim for every act of ablism. This study analyses why participants did not claim. One of the primary issues raised by participants was a gap between the range of parties who caused disablement in society and the way in which anti-discrimination laws attributed duties. -- Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] A request for material for presentation
Dear List Members, Warm Greetings! Please share any article or presentation with me on the topic: Psychological and social wellbeing of disabled people on my personal email id - kkhar...@gmail.com Regards. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Fwd: Invitation: National Conference and Exhibition on 'ICTs for Persons with Disabilities
thanks for the information. you have given us a good picture in a capsule form it shows that the intention for which it was organised was not - Original Message - From: avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Invitation: National Conference and Exhibition on 'ICTs for Persons with Disabilities You are right. Sadly it was held for targetted delegates/students. I would have loved to inform the list earlier but myself got to know at the 11th hour. Majority of them came, had sumptuous food at 4Star Hotel and flew back to their respective places. Aah, I also went there but not as a technologist but as a student/researcher/observer. We posed questions, and government representatives as usuals ran away from responding hard questions. For example, to one of my questions, MS Stuti Kakkar did not find any link between Disability certification and employment. But she and her department is well-aware that NGOs have their own stake and could be made silent and convinced by connivance, but students specially from JNU/DU will always ask questions which are of serious nature and of greater concern. NGOs displayed their products and provided justification for their better marketability. Big players known in the accessible technology arena in the disability sector, lamented the fact that why persons with disabilities do not wish to buy products and want technologies reach them 'free of cost'? They advocated for business model which would drive innovation. Technology was discussed, its inaccessibility and way forward was deliberated upon. Apart from galaxy of technology experts, IITs' professors and NGO representatives , Two responsible personalities from the government spoke on the occasion, RCI Chairperson and Secretary Department of Disability Affairs. It was first innitiative taken by UNESCO perhaps and they will be bringing recommendations emerged out of the conference in print/electronic soon. Remember next big 'brainstorming' will be at India International Centre in Late November. On 9/8/14, mukesh jain mukesh.jai...@gmail.com wrote: hello, i fully secand the views. this is the great concern i have faced so far that information is mostly reached about such events to the candidates at a very short notice. perhapes this might be because the organisers have already targeted the expected number of participants. what so ever the reasons may be, wishes are there for it's grand success. even myself would have surely attended this event if would be known in advance. thank you, On 9/8/14, Parmala Bhat parimala2...@gmail.com wrote: well, it is good to know that such conferences are organised. . now a days there are many new concepts are coming up and it is very essential for the people working with ngOs to gain knowledge and share ideas I would have surely attended the conference if I had known earlier. - Original Message - From: avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 2:11 PM Subject: [AI] Fwd: Invitation: National Conference and Exhibition on 'ICTs for Persons with Disabilities -- Forwarded message -- From: Pratiksha Baxi pratiksha.b...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 23:29:54 +0530 Subject: Fwd: Invitation: National Conference and Exhibition on 'ICTs for Persons with Disabilities To: Abdul Hafiz Gandhi abdulhafizgan...@gmail.com, Anant Prakash Narayan anit...@gmail.com, Anu Sharma anuharitha...@gmail.com, Avinash Shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com, Chubatila Ozukum ati.ozu...@gmail.com, Debajanee Bora debajaneeb...@gmail.com, Deblina Dey deblina_de...@yahoo.co.in, deep chatterjee motherwars...@gmail.com, Harpreet Kaur Azad harpreetkaurdy...@gmail.com, Jayakrishnan PK jkrishna...@gmail.com, K.S.Rajesh Kumar ksrajeshkumar...@gmail.com, Madhavi Shukla madhavi.n...@gmail.com, Manpreet Dhillon dhillon.n...@gmail.com, Nikita Audichya audichya.2...@gmail.com, Piya Srinivasan piyasriniva...@gmail.com, Priya Mathur prialwaysonm...@gmail.com, Rahela Khorakiwala rahel...@gmail.com, Rahul.N rahul.nc...@gmail.com, Rajesh Kumar raajj...@gmail.com, Rebecca John johnrebe...@gmail.com, Shrimoyee Nandini Ghosh shrimo...@gmail.com, Susanta Kumar Mallick susanta...@gmail.com, Swastee Ranjan swastee.ran...@gmail.com, Umesh. O umesh.kadampa...@gmail.com -- Forwarded message -- From: Syed Kazi syedkazi@gmail.com Date: 7 September 2014 23:28 Subject: Invitation: National Conference and Exhibition on 'ICTs for Persons with Disabilities To: *National Conference and Exhibition on* *'ICTs for Persons with Disabilities: * *Taking Stock and Identifying Opportunities'* The Hans Hotel, 15 Barakhamba Road, New Delhi, on 9-10 September 2014 9:00 AM - 6:00 PM *Key Sessions* *September 9, 2014* Session
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
suppose you are booking a ticket from IRCTC. and the code will be sent to your registerd email, moving one to another web page will expire your session. and IRCTC ask many times a captcha. first stage, at the login and secondly while submitting your booking detail and last but not least, if you are luckey with your payment gateway, if not, this will again ask this captcha. imagine that the code will be sent to 3 times in your mail ID and you have to move forward and back from one to another website to solve this unnecessary barrier. the same is on incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in. it ask for the captcha at unlimited stages. each and every time you have to face this strong barrier. I request you to all that before giving any suggestion, please experience the websites yourself. however, now the discussion has turned up towards an intelligent discussion and i don't think that will get any result. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Yes. Mobile verification can be a good option. Gmail uses this option in 2-step verification process if enabled in your account. Otherwise, it only asks for your username and password to get you into your account. E-mail verification can also be considered. Like instead of asking user to enter the CAPTCHA first, the website may prompt the user to enter the e-mail address so that the website can send the code on that mail address. When this is done, the site can expect the code from the user. @Jyotsna, As said several times, CAPTCHA is not implemented only for security reasons. It is placed for other reasons as well like to reduce the load on the server. On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this method is already working in various internet bank and payment gateway websites. but, only numeric code should be sent to the mobile number. - Original Message - From: Zoher Kheriwala zos...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Hi friends, I am following this thread very carefully. Before I proceed I would like to say My English is not good as Juzer and my knowledge about computers is not good as Huzefa and Sheek. The solution comes to my mind is, ?The website can take our Mobile number and can send One Time Password in form of SMS. That OTP should be re entered on the webpage. Can this method work? On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem it should not be server based application like webvisum, instead work like OCR as add on. if anybody would develop such software, it would be a wonder for the entire blind cummunity. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 11:52 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Well, analytical questions are acceptable but my concern is rather implementing this mechanism on all sites better if we have service dedicatedly just like webvisum (not webvisum itself). AH! Indeed i'm no where bounded to the access india.
Re: [AI] Help Requested on Learning Swimming
Will surely do that Ravindra. However, would request for more detailed explaination especially with regard to some tricks and technics that may be used which may then be informed to the koach who may not have tought any VI before. On 9/11/14, Ravindra Jadhav ravikj...@gmail.com wrote: better to enquire in jolly jimkhana at Vidyavihar. On 9/11/14, Rahul Kelapure rkelap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Friends, I intend to learn swimming, whereas, I know as a fact that, lot of VIs do swim, I do not know whom to approach for getting koaching for the same. I have been to few places for inquiring about the same in Mumbai around Goregaon area, but they expressed their inability to teach to a VI. Any help in this regard shall be greatly appritiated. Thanks and warm regards, Rahul. -- Rahul Kelapure +91 9833349929 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Rahul Kelapure +91 9833349929 Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
As many of our learned members has said that a mathematical equations can be solved by spammers, 1 more solution comes to my mind is instead of using mathematical expressions for providing the equations we can use alphabetical expressions. For e.g. Instead of writing 5 + 5 =? We can write f I v e p l u s f i v e e q u a l s? without the spaces. On 9/12/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: suppose you are booking a ticket from IRCTC. and the code will be sent to your registerd email, moving one to another web page will expire your session. and IRCTC ask many times a captcha. first stage, at the login and secondly while submitting your booking detail and last but not least, if you are luckey with your payment gateway, if not, this will again ask this captcha. imagine that the code will be sent to 3 times in your mail ID and you have to move forward and back from one to another website to solve this unnecessary barrier. the same is on incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in. it ask for the captcha at unlimited stages. each and every time you have to face this strong barrier. I request you to all that before giving any suggestion, please experience the websites yourself. however, now the discussion has turned up towards an intelligent discussion and i don't think that will get any result. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Yes. Mobile verification can be a good option. Gmail uses this option in 2-step verification process if enabled in your account. Otherwise, it only asks for your username and password to get you into your account. E-mail verification can also be considered. Like instead of asking user to enter the CAPTCHA first, the website may prompt the user to enter the e-mail address so that the website can send the code on that mail address. When this is done, the site can expect the code from the user. @Jyotsna, As said several times, CAPTCHA is not implemented only for security reasons. It is placed for other reasons as well like to reduce the load on the server. On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this method is already working in various internet bank and payment gateway websites. but, only numeric code should be sent to the mobile number. - Original Message - From: Zoher Kheriwala zos...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Hi friends, I am following this thread very carefully. Before I proceed I would like to say My English is not good as Juzer and my knowledge about computers is not good as Huzefa and Sheek. The solution comes to my mind is, ?The website can take our Mobile number and can send One Time Password in form of SMS. That OTP should be re entered on the webpage. Can this method work? On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem it should not be server based application like webvisum, instead work like OCR as add on. if anybody would develop such software, it would be a wonder for the entire
[AI] does my mail reach this list?
-- your friend yogesh you can't study well with out techknology, today! you can't stand steadily with out techknology, tomorrow so keep learning skype me romio.yogesh, FB yogeshyogi twitter romioyogesh Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
That could be easily parsed by bots and the correct answer can be returned. So, simple computations won't help. Best, On 9/12/14, Zoher Kheriwala zos...@gmail.com wrote: As many of our learned members has said that a mathematical equations can be solved by spammers, 1 more solution comes to my mind is instead of using mathematical expressions for providing the equations we can use alphabetical expressions. For e.g. Instead of writing 5 + 5 =? We can write f I v e p l u s f i v e e q u a l s? without the spaces. On 9/12/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: suppose you are booking a ticket from IRCTC. and the code will be sent to your registerd email, moving one to another web page will expire your session. and IRCTC ask many times a captcha. first stage, at the login and secondly while submitting your booking detail and last but not least, if you are luckey with your payment gateway, if not, this will again ask this captcha. imagine that the code will be sent to 3 times in your mail ID and you have to move forward and back from one to another website to solve this unnecessary barrier. the same is on incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in. it ask for the captcha at unlimited stages. each and every time you have to face this strong barrier. I request you to all that before giving any suggestion, please experience the websites yourself. however, now the discussion has turned up towards an intelligent discussion and i don't think that will get any result. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Yes. Mobile verification can be a good option. Gmail uses this option in 2-step verification process if enabled in your account. Otherwise, it only asks for your username and password to get you into your account. E-mail verification can also be considered. Like instead of asking user to enter the CAPTCHA first, the website may prompt the user to enter the e-mail address so that the website can send the code on that mail address. When this is done, the site can expect the code from the user. @Jyotsna, As said several times, CAPTCHA is not implemented only for security reasons. It is placed for other reasons as well like to reduce the load on the server. On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this method is already working in various internet bank and payment gateway websites. but, only numeric code should be sent to the mobile number. - Original Message - From: Zoher Kheriwala zos...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Hi friends, I am following this thread very carefully. Before I proceed I would like to say My English is not good as Juzer and my knowledge about computers is not good as Huzefa and Sheek. The solution comes to my mind is, ?The website can take our Mobile number and can send One Time Password in form of SMS. That OTP should be re entered on the webpage. Can this method work? On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
Hi I have been following this thread keenly. My comments are as under: captcha per say cannot be dispensed. However the scope of captcha can be enhanced. Presently the options are image and audio, we can insist for a third option i.e. text based Captcha. The forth being OTP. Some sites go paranoid on Captcha like the passport site. These implementations are guided by the developers. Once authenticated it should hold good for the session. It is basically the threat perception of the portal owner and one cannot put dictates on that. What we can work on is that the government should issue a circular that on a website whenever there is in implementation of image Captcha there should necessarily be text Captcha or OTP. I suppose this is the way to take this ahead. Regards Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 12 September 2014 07:30 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem suppose you are booking a ticket from IRCTC. and the code will be sent to your registerd email, moving one to another web page will expire your session. and IRCTC ask many times a captcha. first stage, at the login and secondly while submitting your booking detail and last but not least, if you are luckey with your payment gateway, if not, this will again ask this captcha. imagine that the code will be sent to 3 times in your mail ID and you have to move forward and back from one to another website to solve this unnecessary barrier. the same is on incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in. it ask for the captcha at unlimited stages. each and every time you have to face this strong barrier. I request you to all that before giving any suggestion, please experience the websites yourself. however, now the discussion has turned up towards an intelligent discussion and i don't think that will get any result. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Yes. Mobile verification can be a good option. Gmail uses this option in 2-step verification process if enabled in your account. Otherwise, it only asks for your username and password to get you into your account. E-mail verification can also be considered. Like instead of asking user to enter the CAPTCHA first, the website may prompt the user to enter the e-mail address so that the website can send the code on that mail address. When this is done, the site can expect the code from the user. @Jyotsna, As said several times, CAPTCHA is not implemented only for security reasons. It is placed for other reasons as well like to reduce the load on the server. On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this method is already working in various internet bank and payment gateway websites. but, only numeric code should be sent to the mobile number. - Original Message - From: Zoher Kheriwala zos...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Hi friends, I am following this thread very carefully. Before I proceed I would like to say My English is not good as Juzer and my knowledge about computers is not good as Huzefa and Sheek. The solution comes to my mind is, ?The website can take our Mobile number and can send One Time Password in form of SMS. That OTP should be re entered on the webpage. Can this method work? On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are
Re: [AI] Web visum problem
Dear Bhavani Sir, I totally agree with you that there are many problems in web navigations due to Captchas, and it is our duty to provide the solutions to the companies, as the problems are faced by us and not them. The right solutions comes only from the person who faces the problem. JAWS was originally released in 1989 by Ted Henter, a former motorcycle racer who lost his sight in a 1978 automobile accident. Talking ATM is a gift of Prashant sir who also happends to be blind. And how can we forget Loui Braille who opened the door of knowledge for us who was also blind. What I meen is whatever the solutions are discussed here is not a waist of time. On 9/12/14, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Hi I have been following this thread keenly. My comments are as under: captcha per say cannot be dispensed. However the scope of captcha can be enhanced. Presently the options are image and audio, we can insist for a third option i.e. text based Captcha. The forth being OTP. Some sites go paranoid on Captcha like the passport site. These implementations are guided by the developers. Once authenticated it should hold good for the session. It is basically the threat perception of the portal owner and one cannot put dictates on that. What we can work on is that the government should issue a circular that on a website whenever there is in implementation of image Captcha there should necessarily be text Captcha or OTP. I suppose this is the way to take this ahead. Regards Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 12 September 2014 07:30 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem suppose you are booking a ticket from IRCTC. and the code will be sent to your registerd email, moving one to another web page will expire your session. and IRCTC ask many times a captcha. first stage, at the login and secondly while submitting your booking detail and last but not least, if you are luckey with your payment gateway, if not, this will again ask this captcha. imagine that the code will be sent to 3 times in your mail ID and you have to move forward and back from one to another website to solve this unnecessary barrier. the same is on incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in. it ask for the captcha at unlimited stages. each and every time you have to face this strong barrier. I request you to all that before giving any suggestion, please experience the websites yourself. however, now the discussion has turned up towards an intelligent discussion and i don't think that will get any result. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Yes. Mobile verification can be a good option. Gmail uses this option in 2-step verification process if enabled in your account. Otherwise, it only asks for your username and password to get you into your account. E-mail verification can also be considered. Like instead of asking user to enter the CAPTCHA first, the website may prompt the user to enter the e-mail address so that the website can send the code on that mail address. When this is done, the site can expect the code from the user. @Jyotsna, As said several times, CAPTCHA is not implemented only for security reasons. It is placed for other reasons as well like to reduce the load on the server. On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this method is already working in various internet bank and payment gateway websites. but, only numeric code should be sent to the mobile number. - Original Message - From: Zoher Kheriwala zos...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Hi friends, I am following this thread very carefully. Before I proceed I would like to say My English is not good as Juzer and my knowledge about computers is not good as Huzefa and Sheek. The solution comes to my mind is, ?The website can take our Mobile number and can send One Time Password in form of SMS. That OTP should be re entered on the webpage. Can this method work? On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw
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this can also be like that: a website should ask please spell 25 and tye the spelling in the desired field. another solution may be the word crumble but that word should not be more then 5 or six letters longer. better to to take action now. -Original Message- From: Zoher Kheriwala Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 10:39 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem As many of our learned members has said that a mathematical equations can be solved by spammers, 1 more solution comes to my mind is instead of using mathematical expressions for providing the equations we can use alphabetical expressions. For e.g. Instead of writing 5 + 5 =? We can write f I v e p l u s f i v e e q u a l s? without the spaces. On 9/12/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: suppose you are booking a ticket from IRCTC. and the code will be sent to your registerd email, moving one to another web page will expire your session. and IRCTC ask many times a captcha. first stage, at the login and secondly while submitting your booking detail and last but not least, if you are luckey with your payment gateway, if not, this will again ask this captcha. imagine that the code will be sent to 3 times in your mail ID and you have to move forward and back from one to another website to solve this unnecessary barrier. the same is on incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in. it ask for the captcha at unlimited stages. each and every time you have to face this strong barrier. I request you to all that before giving any suggestion, please experience the websites yourself. however, now the discussion has turned up towards an intelligent discussion and i don't think that will get any result. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Yes. Mobile verification can be a good option. Gmail uses this option in 2-step verification process if enabled in your account. Otherwise, it only asks for your username and password to get you into your account. E-mail verification can also be considered. Like instead of asking user to enter the CAPTCHA first, the website may prompt the user to enter the e-mail address so that the website can send the code on that mail address. When this is done, the site can expect the code from the user. @Jyotsna, As said several times, CAPTCHA is not implemented only for security reasons. It is placed for other reasons as well like to reduce the load on the server. On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this method is already working in various internet bank and payment gateway websites. but, only numeric code should be sent to the mobile number. - Original Message - From: Zoher Kheriwala zos...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Hi friends, I am following this thread very carefully. Before I proceed I would like to say My English is not good as Juzer and my knowledge about computers is not good as Huzefa and Sheek. The solution comes to my mind is, ?The website can take our Mobile number and can send One Time Password in form of SMS. That OTP should be re entered on the webpage. Can this method work? On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often fails to recognise it. then why I should pay for the services? also it works only on firefox and some payment gateway sites don't allow firefox. better is to develop add on to solve this captcha. we should contact to gw micro or freedom scientific or developer of NVDA to develop such tool. webvisum is not a solution. however, do anybody made any representation to government or we are just discussing the matter here. until or unless you knock the door of government, nothing can be achieved in this matter. rest everything is nothing more then chitchat. -Original Message- From: Sheik Mohammedali Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem this sounds good. freedomscientific could have thought on this to intigrate it on jaws since they are constantly developing the convenient OCR. but these captchas are not so easy to recognise textually. Really webvisum is terrific! What if we suggest these webvisum people to make it available paid in terms of some subscriptions so that we can rely on it? - Original Message - From: bhawani shankar verma
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Perhaps you have written =round(d8,0) in d8 cell itself. Circular reference means the cell in which the formula is written falls with the refered cell within the formula. On 9/11/14, sanjay sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Friends, In d8 I have 18136.5 which is sum of b8 and c8. I tried to round it to the nearest digit, that is, 18137. After typing =round(d8,0) I am getting the folowing error. Microsoft Office Excel Circular Reference Warning One or more formulas contain a circular reference and may not calculate correctly. Circular references are any references within a formula that depend upon the results of that same formula. For example, a cell that refers to its own value or a cell that refers to another cell which depends on the original cell's value both contain circular references. For more information about understanding, finding, and removing circular references, click OK. If you want to create a circular reference, click Cancel to continue. Please let me know how to write more than one formulae in a cel, and also, where I am wrong? Thanks. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. -- Him Prasad Gautam Kathmandu, Nepal Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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agreed, please quote these examples while filing your petition. -Original Message- From: Zoher Kheriwala Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 11:08 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Dear Bhavani Sir, I totally agree with you that there are many problems in web navigations due to Captchas, and it is our duty to provide the solutions to the companies, as the problems are faced by us and not them. The right solutions comes only from the person who faces the problem. JAWS was originally released in 1989 by Ted Henter, a former motorcycle racer who lost his sight in a 1978 automobile accident. Talking ATM is a gift of Prashant sir who also happends to be blind. And how can we forget Loui Braille who opened the door of knowledge for us who was also blind. What I meen is whatever the solutions are discussed here is not a waist of time. On 9/12/14, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote: Hi I have been following this thread keenly. My comments are as under: captcha per say cannot be dispensed. However the scope of captcha can be enhanced. Presently the options are image and audio, we can insist for a third option i.e. text based Captcha. The forth being OTP. Some sites go paranoid on Captcha like the passport site. These implementations are guided by the developers. Once authenticated it should hold good for the session. It is basically the threat perception of the portal owner and one cannot put dictates on that. What we can work on is that the government should issue a circular that on a website whenever there is in implementation of image Captcha there should necessarily be text Captcha or OTP. I suppose this is the way to take this ahead. Regards Harish Kotian -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 12 September 2014 07:30 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem suppose you are booking a ticket from IRCTC. and the code will be sent to your registerd email, moving one to another web page will expire your session. and IRCTC ask many times a captcha. first stage, at the login and secondly while submitting your booking detail and last but not least, if you are luckey with your payment gateway, if not, this will again ask this captcha. imagine that the code will be sent to 3 times in your mail ID and you have to move forward and back from one to another website to solve this unnecessary barrier. the same is on incometaxindiaefiling.gov.in. it ask for the captcha at unlimited stages. each and every time you have to face this strong barrier. I request you to all that before giving any suggestion, please experience the websites yourself. however, now the discussion has turned up towards an intelligent discussion and i don't think that will get any result. - Original Message - From: Hozefa Tambawala starh...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Yes. Mobile verification can be a good option. Gmail uses this option in 2-step verification process if enabled in your account. Otherwise, it only asks for your username and password to get you into your account. E-mail verification can also be considered. Like instead of asking user to enter the CAPTCHA first, the website may prompt the user to enter the e-mail address so that the website can send the code on that mail address. When this is done, the site can expect the code from the user. @Jyotsna, As said several times, CAPTCHA is not implemented only for security reasons. It is placed for other reasons as well like to reduce the load on the server. On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this method is already working in various internet bank and payment gateway websites. but, only numeric code should be sent to the mobile number. - Original Message - From: Zoher Kheriwala zos...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Web visum problem Hi friends, I am following this thread very carefully. Before I proceed I would like to say My English is not good as Juzer and my knowledge about computers is not good as Huzefa and Sheek. The solution comes to my mind is, ?The website can take our Mobile number and can send One Time Password in form of SMS. That OTP should be re entered on the webpage. Can this method work? On 9/11/14, bhawani shankar verma bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote: this webvisum does not work efficiently on every sight like IRCTC and NSDL. if the captcha has character on capitle letters it often
