[AI] Blind men’s group from Ahmedabad raises funds for Nepal quake victims

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http://www.dailypioneer.com/nation/blind-mens-group-from-ahmedabad-raises-funds-for-nepal-quake-victims.html

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[AI] More to it than meets the eye? Poona Blind Men’s Association under scanner

[avinash shahi]

So another NGO is under the scanner

When I went to Pune in Feb/March to take part in one legal orientation
conference organized by ILS college and Sabitribai Fule University, I
heard this man Mr Panda. His understanding about the disability and
how to fight for the rights of the disabled is utterly misplaced. He
continued speaking for more than half an hour and spoke no substance.
Anyway, if this association has constructed hospital instead of
housing colony, there should be strong action against the NGO.
http://indianexpress.com/article/cities/pune/more-to-it-than-meets-the-eye-poona-blind-mens-association-under-scanner/2/


Almost 24 years after a plot was sanctioned to the Poona Blind Men’s
Association (PBMA) for a primary health centre, as well as to build a
residential facility for the visually impaired, a notice has been
issued by the district collectorate to the PBMA after a group
representing the visually impaired alleged that there was violation of
land use. The case before the Pune District collector will be heard on
May 11.

In a complaint registered by Anil Khurana and others, it has been
alleged that the land in Sector 93/2 in Mauje Mohammadwadi, measuring
two hectares awarded to the PBMA, was for residential purpose but it
had been operating a commercial hospital on the plot. The Haveli
tehsil office has given a report of “violation of land use”.

A notice issued by the Haveli tehsil office stated that after
reviewing the site, it was seen that the present area housed the HV
Desai hospital with a huge parking lot. The details given in the note
of the tehsil office stated that there were three buildings in the
area, besides the parking space.


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The collectorate has stated that despite sending several letters
asking for the building permissions, the PBMA had not replied. The
circle officer, however, in his report, after inspecting the site and
the buildings, reported that the buildings were constructed in 2004
and registered under charity commissioner office.

Khurana, who is partially visually impaired, said he had approached
the revenue minister, apart from visiting the collectorate’s office,
on the issue. “With a huge population of visually impaired living and
begging on streets and sleeping on railway platforms, it is imperative
to provide them accommodation. When land was allotted, the order
clearly stated that it was granted by the collector S D to the Poona
Blind Men’s Association in 1991 for the purpose of construction of
building blind men’s residential buildings, primary health centre and
its ancillary activities free of occupancy price and free of revenue.
The terms and conditions clearly mentioned that the land should be
fully used for the purpose for which it was granted within a period of
two years,’’ said Khurana, who staged several protest against the
alleged misuse of land.

His colleague, Ramchandra Rangole, said, “The hospital is being used
for commercial purposes and not for what it was meant for. After
several meetings, the district administration accepted that there is
misuse and the hearing for the same is to be conducted. We were issued
a date of May 5 but it was later postponed to May 11.”

PBMA president N P Pandya, however, said the demand to have a housing
colony for the blind was not practical as it would isolate the
visually impaired. “If there are 5,000 people, we cannot have a
separate colony for them,’’ he said, stating that they had taken all
the necessary permissions and would put forward their case on the day
of hearing. “We have an eye hospital where people from across the
state visit. Several operations are conducted for free. A few people
with vested interest are levelling such baseless allegations,’’ he
said when asked about the alleged misuse of land. He added that at
present they had already built 1.10 lakh sq ft with three buildings
and were on an expansion mode. “We will require more land for our work
and will put forward the request during the hearing on May 11,’’
Pandya added.


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[AI] VISUALLY IMPAIRED RAPED, CASE FILED AFTER COURT'S ORDER

[avinash shahi]

Why this much delay? its because she had no support from the
government and the NGOs either. One could keep on harping on
services,however violation of rights are hardly taken up by the funded
well-wishers. I've been advocating for long for advocacy in matters of
sexual assault cases but no one is willing to come up.
http://indianexpress.com/videos/sponsored/vid485267114cb770648610/visually-impaired-raped-case-filed-after-courts-order/




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Re: [AI] nvda not reading the full mail.

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No problem! No worries!

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I haven't any experience whatsoever with e-mail clients on Windows. I have 
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Re: [AI] nvda not reading the full mail.

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No problem! No worries!

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Bhavya shah
Sent: 07 May 2015 10:56
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the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] nvda not reading the full mail.

Hi,
George Sir,
I haven't any experience whatsoever with e-mail clients on Windows. I
have always used the webmail interface of GMail and never bothered
with e-mail clients.
I apologize, I may not be able to help you here.
Thanks.

On 5/7/15, George Abraham  wrote:
> Bhavya,
>
> What is your experience of using MS Outlook as a Email client? Do you
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> enough to do some trouble shooting for me?
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> Subject: Re: [AI] nvda not reading the full mail.
>
> Hi,
> Rajesh Sir,
> From your e-mail address, you seem to be using GMail as your e-mail
> service provider, indicating that I may be able to help.
> Are you using any e-mail client like Microsoft Outlook or Mozilla
> Thunderbird?
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> Personally, I use the webmail interface on Mozilla Firefox with Basic
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> provision of further exact problem reproduction steps.
> Thanks.
>
> On 5/6/15, Parakh Rajesh  wrote:
>> Dear nvda geeks as the subject line says nvda is not reading the full
> mail
>> when i open the mail. instead it just reads the first line like hai
> friends,
>> then i have to press insert down arrow for nvda to read the full mail. i
> am
>> not able to figure out the solution. i am using nvda 2015.1.
>> thanks and regards,
>> rajesh parakh.
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Re: [AI] FW: Human bat uses echoes and sounds to see the world

[Bhavya shah]

Hi,
Could someone enlighten us on the status of usage and knowledge of
human echo location in India?
Thanks.

On 5/7/15, raaju  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> For your information. Appended is today's article from the New Scientist,
> on echolocation.
>
> Peter
>
>
> Seeing with Sound - The vOICe
> http://www.seeingwithsound.com/winvoice.htm
>
>
> Human bat uses echoes and sounds to see the world .
>
> By Clare Wilson, May 6, 2015.
>
> WHAT is it like to be a bat? It's a question philosophers interested in
> consciousness like to ponder. Yet a few people already have something of a
> bat's
> world view.
>
> Brian Borowski, a 59-year-old Canadian who was born blind, began teaching
> himself to echolocate aged 3. He clicks with his tongue or snaps his fingers
> as
> he moves about, unconsciously decoding the echoes. Although many blind
> people
> get information from sounds around them, few turn this into a supersense by
> making sounds to help themselves get around.
>
> "When I'm walking down a sidewalk and I pass trees, I can hear the tree: the
> vertical trunk of the tree and maybe the branches above me," says Borowski.
> "I
> can hear a person in front of me and go around them."
>
> Borowski, who works as a programmer at Western University in London,
> Ontario,
> suspects he experiences "images" in a similar way to people who can see,
> just
> with less detail. "I store maps of information in my head and I compare what
> I
> have in my memory with what I'm hearing around me," he says. "I am matching
> images of some sort." This probably isn't too far from the truth – we know
> from
> brain scans of Borowski and another echolocator that the strategy co-opts
> the
> same parts of the brain that usually deal with visual information.
>
> For his latest scientific collaboration, he helped a team of researchers to
> explore how well echolocators can determine the relative sizes and distances
> of
> objects. Sighted people normally have no problem knowing whether objects
> appear
> small because they are far away or because they are actually small – yet
> both
> something small and nearby or large and distant would occupy the same area
> and
> angle in our field of view. "It's not a trivial thing," says team member
> Lore
> Thaler, at Durham University, UK. "But we don't think about it." So is it
> also
> easy for echolocators? You might think so, but previous work has suggested
> that
> echolocating bats sometimes struggle.
>
> Borowski, however, aced the tests, consistently identifying the true size of
> a
> range of objects placed at different distances. In contrast, 20 blind or
> blindfolded people who had no experience with echolocation floundered when
> asked
> to give it a try (Neurocase, doi.org/38g).
>
> As for how he does it, Thaler points out that theoretically, echoes contain
> intrinsic information about the source's distance as well as its size,
> taking
> longer to return from far-away objects. But Borowski feels he's using a
> different strategy. "If you're close to something, you hear a higher
> resolution.
> You get more detail," he says.
>
> Human echolocation has attracted great interest since the late 2000s, when
> Californian Daniel Kish came to wide attention. Yet his organisation, World
> Access for the Blind, is still the only one that teaches the skill to
> others,
> and it is not generally taught to blind children in schools. Tom Pey of the
> Royal London Society for Blind People points out that most people who are
> blind
> or partially sighted lose their sight in later life, when their hearing
> might
> also be on the wane.
>
> Thaler admits that echolocation has some drawbacks – it's not very good for
> detecting obstacles on the ground – but she is convinced it should be
> taught,
> and is currently helping Durham County Council to provide workshops. "It
> doesn't
> solve everything but it definitely gives additional information," she says.
> "It's an amazing example of brain plasticity."
>
> This article appeared in print under the headline "The man who sees with
> sound".
>
> How i learned to echolocate.
>
> Click here to read a longer version of this interview
> http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27474-how-i-learned-to-navigate-using-my-bat-supersense.html
>
> Once, when my parents were putting metal stakes into the ground, my brother
> –
> who is also blind – and I noticed that when they were banged with a hammer,
> the
> echoes bouncing off the house were really strong. We realised we could use
> that.
>
> Playing games like hide-and-seek with our sighted brother honed our skills.
> His
> idea of hiding from us was standing in the middle of the lawn. At first we
> couldn't find where he was, but as we got better at echolocating, he had to
> hide
> behind trees. We soon learned to find him there too.
>
> Once we'd mastered the skill, we taught ourselves how to ride bikes. We
> didn't
> just use echolocation, but other things too to keep track of where we were:
> the
> slope of the 

Re: [AI] nvda not reading the full mail.

[Bhavya shah]

Hi,
George Sir,
I haven't any experience whatsoever with e-mail clients on Windows. I
have always used the webmail interface of GMail and never bothered
with e-mail clients.
I apologize, I may not be able to help you here.
Thanks.

On 5/7/15, George Abraham  wrote:
> Bhavya,
>
> What is your experience of using MS Outlook as a Email client? Do you know
> enough to do some trouble shooting for me?
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> -Original Message-
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> Of Bhavya shah
> Sent: 06 May 2015 22:37
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> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] nvda not reading the full mail.
>
> Hi,
> Rajesh Sir,
> From your e-mail address, you seem to be using GMail as your e-mail
> service provider, indicating that I may be able to help.
> Are you using any e-mail client like Microsoft Outlook or Mozilla
> Thunderbird?
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>
> On 5/6/15, Parakh Rajesh  wrote:
>> Dear nvda geeks as the subject line says nvda is not reading the full
> mail
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> friends,
>> then i have to press insert down arrow for nvda to read the full mail. i
> am
>> not able to figure out the solution. i am using nvda 2015.1.
>> thanks and regards,
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>>
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Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
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Using G

Re: [AI] (no subject)

[Bhavya shah]

Hi,
Sonu Sir,
The primary extensive documentation in textual form is the NVDA User
Guide itself. If you have an copy of NVDA, you can directly access the
User Guide by going to NVDA Menu > Help submenu > User Guide.
The Commands Quick Reference, available in the Help submenu as well,
gives you a brief overview of the basic key commands used in NVDA.
Joseph Lee's recent audio tutorial series, about which I recently
forwarded the official announcement, isn't yet available in textual
form. I may be collaborating with him for the conversion process, but,
regardless, the transcription process will take quite long.
In the meanwhile, many other links to textual documentation and
resources aiding in NVDA's usage can be found here:
http://community.nvda-project.org/wiki/Guides
Thanks.

On 5/7/15, sonu golkar  wrote:
> Hi Bhavya,
>
> Would be possible for you to send me word file of NVDA tutorial?
>
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> The various cursors in JAWS are replicated in NVDA by a combination of
> review modes, review cursor and object navigation techniques. You may
> want to study the relevant User Guide sections in the NVDA User Guide
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> Regarding your second concern, that too is possible and doable in
> NVDA. Check the Automatic focus mode for caret movement check box and
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>> I am also NVDA staunch user by virtue of its rather easy accessibility &
>> switch over to Hindi, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> It works very well here on window 7 & so on.  Only difficulty I am yet to
>> overcome with NVDA is its non use of JAWS & ROUTE TO JAWS CURSORS, its
> tough
>> behaviour in edit fields where it would move not beyond the box& read the
>> heads to be filled in.  May be, one could suggest me their solutions as I
>> have not much read NVDA audios on its functions.
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[AI] Nagpur boy to showcase invention at US science fair

[Divyanshu Ganatra]

hmm .. i wonder why i will wear another device that will read out text
for me? that too a ugly contraption on my head and pay twenty thousand
for the same. maybe someone needs to point this lad to stuff on
android and Iphone in perticular.  i wonder sometimes if they ever
have spoken to a blind tech user to get feedback. this is not to take
away from the fact that a young boy has gone ahead and made something,
he believes will be of use to our community.

Nagpur boy to showcase invention at US science fair A Class IX student from
Nagpur is among 12 outstanding pre-college innovators from India who have
been invited to showcase their innovations at the Intel International
Science Engineering Fair to be held at Pittsburgh in the US from May 10.

Aditya Bhople from Narayana Vidyalay has developed a device called
Autoreader that can identify and read any text for a visually impaired
person. According to Aditya, this could be one-of-a-kind device in the
world.

“There are some devices that need a constant power supply and are immobile.
Mine is a wearable device which runs on a lithium battery, helping the user
to be mobile and use it anywhere he goes,” he says.

The band-like device is fitted with a camera in the front and a processing
unit at the back and can be worn on the head. The camera captures the
images in the front while the processing unit distinguishes the textual
matter from other things and reads it out for the user.

Says Aditya: “I have been following electronics ever since I was in Class
II. There are 285 million visually impaired people in the world, with 90
per cent of them so poor that they can’t afford assisting devices costing
thousands of dollars. Last year, I thought I would make a reading device
for them, which is not available at this point of time. Working on it since
June 2014, I have been able to make one in a few months and was chosen
among the 12 finalists from over 90 entries from across the country.”
Aditya developed the device at a cost of Rs 20,000, but says it could cost
less than Rs 5,000 if manufactured on a large scale.

Aditya has applied for a patent at the Nagpur patent office and is hoping
to get it for the Autoreader soon.

Explaining how the device works, he says, “I have employed what is known as
text algorithm in my processing unit to extract only the text in front of
the camera. It is preceded by identification of letters by what is known as
visual processing algorithm. The text, thus isolated by these processes
from the details of the image captured by the camera, is then converted
into speech by text-to-speech engine.”

Aditya acknowledges that his device is currently able to read text with a
font size of only 22 points and above. “I am working on it further to
enable to read fine print,” he adds.

The advantage of Aditya’s device is that it does not require internet
connection for text-to-speech synthesis. Aditya learnt C programming as
early as in Class IV, quickly graduating to JAVA and BASH. He was
encouraged and help by his uncle Sunil Khajone, a senior design engineer
with Qualcomm in the US.



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Re: [AI] Banking career for VI: Nafisa Buhariwala On Radio Udaan on Friday 9 PM

[Rishi Sharma]

Hello,

I just signed the petition, "Central Board of Secondary Education Plot
No. 149, Block - H, Sector - 63, Noida - 201309 Distt-, University
Grants Commission
(UGC) Bahadur Shah Zafar Marg, New Delhi Pin:110 002 India,
Ministr...: Declare Result of National Eligibility Test(NET) Exam."

I think this is important. Will you sign it too?

Here's the link:

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> Nafisa Buhariwala
>
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[AI] Banking career for VI: Nafisa Buhariwala On Radio Udaan on Friday 9 PM

[Vamshi. G]

Nafisa Buhariwala

Executive Committee Member (VIBEWA)
www.vibewa.org
Chief Manager, Central Bank of India
Mumbai, Maharashtra

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Re: [AI] Urgent Need of Latest Version of Talks

[Hozefa Tambawala]

Visit
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On 5/7/15, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
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Re: [AI] Bank Managers Going Mad.

[li...@srinivasu.org]

Good to hear but this does not solve the route problem of bank denying customer 
to operate her account. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

> On 07-May-2015, at 06:49, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody,
> 
> I wrote some days back about a vi lady being denied access to her bank acount 
> by the bank following her mother's death. I am happy to inform you that the 
> problem has been solved. It was Allahabad Bank. As soon as I came to know of 
> the bank's name, I contacted Himansu Sahu of our list. He is also the 
> Secretary of Visually Impaired Bank Employees Association. He immediately 
> took up the issue with Allahabad Bank. Luckily it is his employer also. He 
> made some phone calls and finally yesterday the vi customer got her money 
> transferred to her new salary account.
> 
> I am glad that we have helped someone from the list and, of course, thanks to 
> VIBEA too.
> 
> With best regards,
> Amiyo Biswas
> Cell: +91-9433464329
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Amiyo Biswas" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
> the disabled." 
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 9:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Managers Going Mad.
> 
> 
>> I am sorry, I could not contact the vi lady. I heard it from a friend. I 
>> know the lady's husband. I talked to him yesterday. He does not know the 
>> bank's name. I shall update you as soon as I hear anything else. I shallk 
>> pass over the suggestions you have offered.
>> 
>> With best regards,
>> Amiyo Biswas
>> Cell: +91-9433464329
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Jerin Jose" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Managers Going Mad.
>> 
>> 
>>> Dear Amiyo,
>>> 
>>> I read your e-mail saying "joined salary account with her mother". In
>>> that case if the mandate given is "E or S" (either or surviver), she
>>> has all the rights to operate the account independently without the
>>> intervention of a legal guardian. If this basic banking facility is
>>> denied by the bank officials, the same has to be taken up with the
>>> regional/circle/zonal office of that bank in writing. Only then we can
>>> bring awareness about the right of visually challenged persons to the
>>> banking facilities among the bankers. Would like to know the bank name
>>> and the branch name.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Jerin Jose
>>> Cell: +91-9539510031
>>> 
>>> 
 On 4/23/15, vivek doddamani  wrote:
 this type of cases have also happened to one of my friend in Allahabad
 Bank, timarpur branch in Delhi when myself & some other blind friends
 approached the manager & described about the RBI guidelines then the
 manager agreed & paid salary to the blind person without any sighted
 gardian.  the main arguement these managers tell is blind persons
 cannot recognise the notes & count their cash withdrawed from our bank
 so we tell them to bring any sighted persons who is above 12 years to
 count the notes.
 
> On 4/23/15, SC Vashishth  wrote:
> Amiyo, name the bank and branch immediately.
> 
>> On 23 April 2015 at 09:17, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
>> 
>> She should have approach with the higher authority of the bank of that
>> zone. I am sure! the problem will be resolved. Most of the Branch
>> managers
>> are not aware, how to deal with these kind's of cases. Generally, they
>> takes extra precaughtions to deal with the accounts of Visually Impaired
>> peoples.
>> - Original Message - From: "Amiyo Biswas"
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 7:07 AM
>> Subject: [AI] Bank Managers Going Mad.
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> A visually impaired woman, a teacher at a primary school at a village,
>>> had a joint salary account with her mother. Recently her mother died.
>>> The
>>> branch manager refused to pay her salary etc from her account as,
>>> according
>>> to the manager, she must have a legal guardian to operate the account.
>>> 
>>> She finally managed to open another salary account with another bank in
>>> her locality. But her last month's salary is still in the said account
>>> which the manager is not allowing her to withdraw.
>>> 
>>> I have asked her to immediately complain to the zonal office. Maybe her
>>> problem will be solved. But I wonder how long the bank officials will
>>> consider themselves guardians of the visually impaired and keep
>>> harassing
>>> them. Banking service is a commercial service and, I think, we should
>>> move
>>> the consumer court for such harassment. We should also demand some sort
>>> of
>>> penalty, in the form of fine etc, from the bank. Otherwise they won't
>>> stop
>>> treating like this.
>>> 
>>> With b

Re: [AI] Bank Managers Going Mad.

[Amiyo Biswas]

Hello everybody,

I wrote some days back about a vi lady being denied access to her bank 
acount by the bank following her mother's death. I am happy to inform you 
that the problem has been solved. It was Allahabad Bank. As soon as I came 
to know of the bank's name, I contacted Himansu Sahu of our list. He is also 
the Secretary of Visually Impaired Bank Employees Association. He 
immediately took up the issue with Allahabad Bank. Luckily it is his 
employer also. He made some phone calls and finally yesterday the vi 
customer got her money transferred to her new salary account.


I am glad that we have helped someone from the list and, of course, thanks 
to VIBEA too.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329


- Original Message - 
From: "Amiyo Biswas" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Managers Going Mad.


I am sorry, I could not contact the vi lady. I heard it from a friend. I 
know the lady's husband. I talked to him yesterday. He does not know the 
bank's name. I shall update you as soon as I hear anything else. I shallk 
pass over the suggestions you have offered.


With best regards,
Amiyo Biswas
Cell: +91-9433464329

- Original Message - 
From: "Jerin Jose" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Bank Managers Going Mad.



Dear Amiyo,

I read your e-mail saying "joined salary account with her mother". In
that case if the mandate given is "E or S" (either or surviver), she
has all the rights to operate the account independently without the
intervention of a legal guardian. If this basic banking facility is
denied by the bank officials, the same has to be taken up with the
regional/circle/zonal office of that bank in writing. Only then we can
bring awareness about the right of visually challenged persons to the
banking facilities among the bankers. Would like to know the bank name
and the branch name.

Best regards,

Jerin Jose
Cell: +91-9539510031


On 4/23/15, vivek doddamani  wrote:

this type of cases have also happened to one of my friend in Allahabad
Bank, timarpur branch in Delhi when myself & some other blind friends
approached the manager & described about the RBI guidelines then the
manager agreed & paid salary to the blind person without any sighted
gardian.  the main arguement these managers tell is blind persons
cannot recognise the notes & count their cash withdrawed from our bank
so we tell them to bring any sighted persons who is above 12 years to
count the notes.

On 4/23/15, SC Vashishth  wrote:

Amiyo, name the bank and branch immediately.

On 23 April 2015 at 09:17, B. R. Nautial  wrote:


She should have approach with the higher authority of the bank of that
zone. I am sure! the problem will be resolved. Most of the Branch
managers
are not aware, how to deal with these kind's of cases. Generally, they
takes extra precaughtions to deal with the accounts of Visually 
Impaired

peoples.
- Original Message - From: "Amiyo Biswas"

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 7:07 AM
Subject: [AI] Bank Managers Going Mad.


 Hello,


A visually impaired woman, a teacher at a primary school at a 
village,

had a joint salary account with her mother. Recently her mother died.
The
branch manager refused to pay her salary etc from her account as,
according
to the manager, she must have a legal guardian to operate the 
account.


She finally managed to open another salary account with another bank 
in
her locality. But her last month's salary is still in the said 
account

which the manager is not allowing her to withdraw.

I have asked her to immediately complain to the zonal office. Maybe 
her

problem will be solved. But I wonder how long the bank officials will
consider themselves guardians of the visually impaired and keep
harassing
them. Banking service is a commercial service and, I think, we should
move
the consumer court for such harassment. We should also demand some 
sort

of
penalty, in the form of fine etc, from the bank. Otherwise they won't
stop
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Re: [AI] (no subject)

[sonu golkar]

Hi Bhavya,

Would be possible for you to send me word file of NVDA tutorial?

Regards

Sonu

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Subject: Re: [AI] (no subject)

Hi,
The various cursors in JAWS are replicated in NVDA by a combination of
review modes, review cursor and object navigation techniques. You may
want to study the relevant User Guide sections in the NVDA User Guide
for more information.
Regarding your second concern, that too is possible and doable in
NVDA. Check the Automatic focus mode for caret movement check box and
report back if the issue is resolved.
Thanks.

On 5/6/15, SKYLINER  wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I am also NVDA staunch user by virtue of its rather easy accessibility &
> switch over to Hindi, etc.
>
>
>
> It works very well here on window 7 & so on.  Only difficulty I am yet to
> overcome with NVDA is its non use of JAWS & ROUTE TO JAWS CURSORS, its
tough
> behaviour in edit fields where it would move not beyond the box& read the
> heads to be filled in.  May be, one could suggest me their solutions as I
> have not much read NVDA audios on its functions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 01 Jan 1970 05:30:00 +0530  wrote
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Re: [AI] nvda not reading the full mail.

[George Abraham]

Bhavya,

What is your experience of using MS Outlook as a Email client? Do you know
enough to do some trouble shooting for me?

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Subject: Re: [AI] nvda not reading the full mail.

Hi,
Rajesh Sir,
>From your e-mail address, you seem to be using GMail as your e-mail
service provider, indicating that I may be able to help.
Are you using any e-mail client like Microsoft Outlook or Mozilla
Thunderbird?
Are you using the webmail interface of GMail on which web browser?
Are you using Basic HTML or Standard View?
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HTML as my default view.
If you have a similar e-mailing environment, I may be able to help on
provision of further exact problem reproduction steps.
Thanks.

On 5/6/15, Parakh Rajesh  wrote:
> Dear nvda geeks as the subject line says nvda is not reading the full
mail
> when i open the mail. instead it just reads the first line like hai
friends,
> then i have to press insert down arrow for nvda to read the full mail. i
am
> not able to figure out the solution. i am using nvda 2015.1.
> thanks and regards,
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[AI] Urgent Need of Latest Version of Talks

[B. R. Nautial]

Hello friends!
Have a nice day to all of you.
Friends, I am in urgent need of latest version of talks. I already downloaded 
with Saksham Trust but unable to extract in view of some error.
With regards
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[AI] FW: Human bat uses echoes and sounds to see the world

[raaju]

Hi All,

For your information. Appended is today's article from the New Scientist,
on echolocation.

Peter


Seeing with Sound - The vOICe
http://www.seeingwithsound.com/winvoice.htm


Human bat uses echoes and sounds to see the world .

By Clare Wilson, May 6, 2015.

WHAT is it like to be a bat? It's a question philosophers interested in
consciousness like to ponder. Yet a few people already have something of a bat's
world view.

Brian Borowski, a 59-year-old Canadian who was born blind, began teaching
himself to echolocate aged 3. He clicks with his tongue or snaps his fingers as
he moves about, unconsciously decoding the echoes. Although many blind people
get information from sounds around them, few turn this into a supersense by
making sounds to help themselves get around.

"When I'm walking down a sidewalk and I pass trees, I can hear the tree: the
vertical trunk of the tree and maybe the branches above me," says Borowski. "I
can hear a person in front of me and go around them."

Borowski, who works as a programmer at Western University in London, Ontario,
suspects he experiences "images" in a similar way to people who can see, just
with less detail. "I store maps of information in my head and I compare what I
have in my memory with what I'm hearing around me," he says. "I am matching
images of some sort." This probably isn't too far from the truth – we know from
brain scans of Borowski and another echolocator that the strategy co-opts the
same parts of the brain that usually deal with visual information.

For his latest scientific collaboration, he helped a team of researchers to
explore how well echolocators can determine the relative sizes and distances of
objects. Sighted people normally have no problem knowing whether objects appear
small because they are far away or because they are actually small – yet both
something small and nearby or large and distant would occupy the same area and
angle in our field of view. "It's not a trivial thing," says team member Lore
Thaler, at Durham University, UK. "But we don't think about it." So is it also
easy for echolocators? You might think so, but previous work has suggested that
echolocating bats sometimes struggle.

Borowski, however, aced the tests, consistently identifying the true size of a
range of objects placed at different distances. In contrast, 20 blind or
blindfolded people who had no experience with echolocation floundered when asked
to give it a try (Neurocase, doi.org/38g).

As for how he does it, Thaler points out that theoretically, echoes contain
intrinsic information about the source's distance as well as its size, taking
longer to return from far-away objects. But Borowski feels he's using a
different strategy. "If you're close to something, you hear a higher resolution.
You get more detail," he says.

Human echolocation has attracted great interest since the late 2000s, when
Californian Daniel Kish came to wide attention. Yet his organisation, World
Access for the Blind, is still the only one that teaches the skill to others,
and it is not generally taught to blind children in schools. Tom Pey of the
Royal London Society for Blind People points out that most people who are blind
or partially sighted lose their sight in later life, when their hearing might
also be on the wane.

Thaler admits that echolocation has some drawbacks – it's not very good for
detecting obstacles on the ground – but she is convinced it should be taught,
and is currently helping Durham County Council to provide workshops. "It doesn't
solve everything but it definitely gives additional information," she says.
"It's an amazing example of brain plasticity."

This article appeared in print under the headline "The man who sees with sound".

How i learned to echolocate.

Click here to read a longer version of this interview
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27474-how-i-learned-to-navigate-using-my-bat-supersense.html

Once, when my parents were putting metal stakes into the ground, my brother –
who is also blind – and I noticed that when they were banged with a hammer, the
echoes bouncing off the house were really strong. We realised we could use that.

Playing games like hide-and-seek with our sighted brother honed our skills. His
idea of hiding from us was standing in the middle of the lawn. At first we
couldn't find where he was, but as we got better at echolocating, he had to hide
behind trees. We soon learned to find him there too.

Once we'd mastered the skill, we taught ourselves how to ride bikes. We didn't
just use echolocation, but other things too to keep track of where we were: the
slope of the road, whether the gravel was loose or well-packed. But we would
always be clicking, listening for the grass growing at the side of the road, or
for the turning into our driveway.

We never had any formal training. Our teachers thought it wasn't a good thing to
do. They said blind people have enough trouble fitting into society and you
shouldn't do anything that 

Re: [AI] NVDA lags on Windows 7

[Bhavya shah]

Hi,
Dinesh Sir,
I doubt if anti virus programs could cause a constantly noticeable lag
in NVDA's performance. If this were so, all programs apart from NVDA
too would be affected.
The keystroke NVDA + V toggles on and off if the screen layout is
preserved while rendering the document content (Input Help mode
message). An ideal preference would be simple layout, and in
particular cases  screen layout is beneficial.
The second feature request expressed by Shankar Sir is the wrapping to
top functionality that allows JAWS to move to the first element when
there exists no next element. The NVDA developers are unwilling to
allow its implementation, and, in my experience, one can get
accustomed easily to this feature's absence.
Amar,
Regarding the constant and conspicuous delay in NVDA, lets leave that
part to our talk on the phone.
Thanks.


On 5/6/15, shankar shan  wrote:
> Hi amar
> as dinesh said, some times the antivirus  programme interapt
> if you r acing the issues in the brousers, kindly turn off the virtual
> screen by pressing nvda v
> so that, you can have a better navigation i hope
> and, in n v d a, after reaching  the last elements again, if we  press
> the key combination it wont take us back to the 1st element
> i mean to say, for xample, after reaching the heading 6, if we press h
> in jaws, it will take us to  the heading level 1, but, in n v d a
> does not have this option,
> i am not commanting, just expressing myself on the list
>
>
> On 06/05/2015, Dinesh Thole  wrote:
>> Yes Amar,
>>
>> I did check NVDA's performance on browser.
>> No issues as such.
>> Just wondering, could the antivirus cause any issues like this?
>>
>> Warm Regards.
>>
>>
>> Dinesh Thole.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Amar Jain
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 3:32 PM
>> To: accessindia
>> Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA lags on Windows 7
>>
>> Thanks bhaiya; the problem persists in navigating, reading and typing
>> specifically on browsers and navigation and typing in other apps is slow
>> as
>> well. Not the reading though.
>>
>> I have already unchecked the checkboxes for pauses in character and
>> words.
>>
>> Regards,
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Re: [AI] nvda not reading the full mail.

[Bhavya shah]

Hi,
Rajesh Sir,
>From your e-mail address, you seem to be using GMail as your e-mail
service provider, indicating that I may be able to help.
Are you using any e-mail client like Microsoft Outlook or Mozilla Thunderbird?
Are you using the webmail interface of GMail on which web browser?
Are you using Basic HTML or Standard View?
Personally, I use the webmail interface on Mozilla Firefox with Basic
HTML as my default view.
If you have a similar e-mailing environment, I may be able to help on
provision of further exact problem reproduction steps.
Thanks.

On 5/6/15, Parakh Rajesh  wrote:
> Dear nvda geeks as the subject line says nvda is not reading the full mail
> when i open the mail. instead it just reads the first line like hai friends,
> then i have to press insert down arrow for nvda to read the full mail. i am
> not able to figure out the solution. i am using nvda 2015.1.
> thanks and regards,
> rajesh parakh.
>
>
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Re: [AI] (no subject)

[Bhavya shah]

Hi,
The various cursors in JAWS are replicated in NVDA by a combination of
review modes, review cursor and object navigation techniques. You may
want to study the relevant User Guide sections in the NVDA User Guide
for more information.
Regarding your second concern, that too is possible and doable in
NVDA. Check the Automatic focus mode for caret movement check box and
report back if the issue is resolved.
Thanks.

On 5/6/15, SKYLINER  wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I am also NVDA staunch user by virtue of its rather easy accessibility &
> switch over to Hindi, etc.
>
>
>
> It works very well here on window 7 & so on.  Only difficulty I am yet to
> overcome with NVDA is its non use of JAWS & ROUTE TO JAWS CURSORS, its tough
> behaviour in edit fields where it would move not beyond the box& read the
> heads to be filled in.  May be, one could suggest me their solutions as I
> have not much read NVDA audios on its functions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 01 Jan 1970 05:30:00 +0530  wrote
>
>>
>
>
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[AI] nvda not reading the full mail.

[Parakh Rajesh]

Dear nvda geeks as the subject line says nvda is not reading the full mail when 
i open the mail. instead it just reads the first line like hai friends, then i 
have to press insert down arrow for nvda to read the full mail. i am not able 
to figure out the solution. i am using nvda 2015.1.
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[AI] request for the materials needed for preparing net exam for sociology

[Bandi Sudhakar]

hi all
hope every one is fine
friends I  want materials  for preparing  sociology  net  exam
if any  one  has   please  share  or
sent  to my email id
my email id is
sudakarbandi...@gmail.com

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Re: [AI] NVDA lags on Windows 7

[shankar shan]

Hi amar
as dinesh said, some times the antivirus  programme interapt
if you r acing the issues in the brousers, kindly turn off the virtual
screen by pressing nvda v
so that, you can have a better navigation i hope
and, in n v d a, after reaching  the last elements again, if we  press
the key combination it wont take us back to the 1st element
i mean to say, for xample, after reaching the heading 6, if we press h
in jaws, it will take us to  the heading level 1, but, in n v d a
does not have this option,
i am not commanting, just expressing myself on the list


On 06/05/2015, Dinesh Thole  wrote:
> Yes Amar,
>
> I did check NVDA's performance on browser.
> No issues as such.
> Just wondering, could the antivirus cause any issues like this?
>
> Warm Regards.
>
>
> Dinesh Thole.
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> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
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> To: accessindia
> Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA lags on Windows 7
>
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> specifically on browsers and navigation and typing in other apps is slow as
> well. Not the reading though.
>
> I have already unchecked the checkboxes for pauses in character and words.
>
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Re: [AI] regarding jaws problems

[shankar shan]

hello
gretings
as for my understanding, you are using jaws 16 32 bit with windows 7
if this is the case,  please install the file called, install_ca.bat
so that, your jaws will run automatically
for skype scripts
do the following
1. go to the folder, where you downloaded the scripts
2. place the cursore on the scripts
3. unzip the files
4. copy the scripts from the unzipped folder
5. go to C:\Users\admin\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\16.0\Settings\enu
and paste it them
and restart it, the scripts might get work
if u r facing the issues, kindly let me know




On 06/05/2015, markandeswar rao Bandi  wrote:
> Hi experts
> I am using HP laptop with windows7 profisional32bit
> In my laptop some days onwards facing 2 problems regarding jaws
> First of jaws is not starting automatically I set basic setting put
> both options checked but also jaws not start automatically
> Another problem is Skype scripts not installed in my laptop
> I am pasting that log file information
> 15 or 16 also facing same problems
> Install into JAWS folders 15.0.
> Preparing for JAWS script compilation.
> 15.0:
> User folder:
> C:\Windows\system32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
> Scientific\JAWS\15.0\Settings\enu
> Shared folder: C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\15.0\Settings\enu
> Output folder:
> C:\Windows\system32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
> Scientific\JAWS\15.0\Settings\enu
> Installing files.
> JAWSUtil command: compile skype_compat.jss skype_jcpdict.jss Skype.JSS
> skypewatch.JSS
> Error output:
> Error: Unable to expand %appdata%.
>
> End of output.
> Command returned 1.
> Output:
> End of output.
> Restoring this JAWS folder to its original state.
> JAWSUtil command: chain "default" remove skypewatch.jsb
> Error output:
> Error: Unable to expand %appdata%.
>
> End of output.
> Command returned 1.
> Output:
> End of output.
> JAWSInstallDirs is .
> All installations failed!
> Writing log file.
> 3 times jaws removed and installed also facing same problem
> Please guide me regarding in this matter
> Thanking you
>
>
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> MGNREGS AP
> DWMA office Kakinada
> East godavari district
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> office:7095524800
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Re: [AI] NVDA lags on Windows 7

[Dinesh Thole]

Yes Amar,

I did check NVDA's performance on browser.  
No issues as such.
Just wondering, could the antivirus cause any issues like this?

Warm Regards.


Dinesh Thole.
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Amar Jain
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 3:32 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] NVDA lags on Windows 7

Thanks bhaiya; the problem persists in navigating, reading and typing
specifically on browsers and navigation and typing in other apps is slow as
well. Not the reading though.

I have already unchecked the checkboxes for pauses in character and words.

Regards,
--
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[AI] regarding jaws problems

[markandeswar rao Bandi]

Hi experts
I am using HP laptop with windows7 profisional32bit
In my laptop some days onwards facing 2 problems regarding jaws
First of jaws is not starting automatically I set basic setting put
both options checked but also jaws not start automatically
Another problem is Skype scripts not installed in my laptop
I am pasting that log file information
15 or 16 also facing same problems
Install into JAWS folders 15.0.
Preparing for JAWS script compilation.
15.0:
User folder: C:\Windows\system32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\15.0\Settings\enu
Shared folder: C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\15.0\Settings\enu
Output folder: C:\Windows\system32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Roaming\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\15.0\Settings\enu
Installing files.
JAWSUtil command: compile skype_compat.jss skype_jcpdict.jss Skype.JSS
skypewatch.JSS
Error output:
Error: Unable to expand %appdata%.

End of output.
Command returned 1.
Output:
End of output.
Restoring this JAWS folder to its original state.
JAWSUtil command: chain "default" remove skypewatch.jsb
Error output:
Error: Unable to expand %appdata%.

End of output.
Command returned 1.
Output:
End of output.
JAWSInstallDirs is .
All installations failed!
Writing log file.
3 times jaws removed and installed also facing same problem
Please guide me regarding in this matter
Thanking you


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District Coordinator (Disabilities)
MGNREGS AP
DWMA office Kakinada
East godavari district
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personal:9440223992
home:08842334600
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Re: [AI] NVDA lags on Windows 7

[Amar Jain]

Thanks bhaiya; the problem persists in navigating, reading and typing
specifically on browsers and navigation and typing in other apps is
slow as well. Not the reading though.

I have already unchecked the checkboxes for pauses in character and words.

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Re: [AI] (no subject)

[SKYLINER]

Hi.

I am also NVDA staunch user by virtue of its rather easy accessibility & switch 
over to Hindi, etc.



It works very well here on window 7 & so on.  Only difficulty I am yet to 
overcome with NVDA is its non use of JAWS & ROUTE TO JAWS CURSORS, its tough 
behaviour in edit fields where it would move not beyond the box& read the heads 
to be filled in.  May be, one could suggest me their solutions as I have not 
much read NVDA audios on its functions.







On Thu, 01 Jan 1970 05:30:00 +0530  wrote

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Re: [AI] NVDA lags on Windows 7

[Dinesh Thole]

Hello Amar,

I don't think RAM is an issue here.
Just to let you know, I am using windows 8.1 on a laptop with   Intel Core 2
duo 2.0 GHZ Processor, with 2 GB RAM.
And NVDA Still works very well without any lag.

Warm Regards.


Dinesh Thole.
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Amar Jain
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 12:59 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] NVDA lags on Windows 7

Dear All,

I have been a Jaws user since Jaws 3.7 was out in the market. However,
the basic things being broken down with each update of Jaws, and the
changes in the support strategies for international users of
Freedomscientific, I have no option but to equip myself with the
necessary skills to use NVDA efficiently.

Thanks to the user guide and the audio tutorial (the only one I heard
was that about cursers and object navigation), the migration has been
easy so far.

Query: the only problem I am facing is the noticeable lag with NVDA
while typing or navigating using keyboard.

To give an example, if I am on any browser (I know Firefox is better
supported here), and I do a google search or open the user guide of
NVDA, and if I jump by headings, while my key press may be 3 or 4
times, NVDA will be stuck on the first key press and there will be a
noticeable delay for it to come up to the heading after last key
press.

I am using NVDA 2015.1 with ESpeak, on Windows 7 Pro with all latest
updates. Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4300U CPU @ 1.90GHz   2.50
GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 4.00 GB (3.42 GB usable)

What do you think can be the cause and the solution for the same?
Is the fact that it is running on Pithon and not on C++ or other
languages due to which NVDA may require better ram and processor a
problem?

Any response will be highly appreciated.

Regards,
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Re: [AI] Blind civil service aspirants and officers

[Shweta Mishra]

hi!
I too tried to join civil services group many days back but couldn't
get success.
please add me too.
my mail ID is,
shweta.mishra...@gmail.com
thanks in advance!

On 4/20/15, Aartee Agarwal  wrote:
> Hello Sir I also want to join the group. so plz join me. Aartee Agarwal
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
> wrote:
>
>> Ok, I will see it, if you haven't been subscribed already, I will
>> directly add you.
>>
>> On 1/27/15, Poonam Lakra  wrote:
>> > Hello Sir,
>> >
>> > I have sent mail few days back for subscription, but didn't get any
>> > response.
>> >
>> > With Regards.
>> >
>> > On 1/27/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
>> >> Hey, there are already members with visual impairment into Indian
>> >> civil services. But finding the contact details of all is little bit
>> >> difficult.
>> >> Yeah, I remember last year one IAS officer of 2007 bache with complete
>> >> blindness was appointed District Magistrate in MP. This news itom was
>> >> shared on this list, you may search in group's archive.
>> >> Regarding joining civil services group, you may become its member by
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[AI] NVDA lags on Windows 7

[Amar Jain]

Dear All,

I have been a Jaws user since Jaws 3.7 was out in the market. However,
the basic things being broken down with each update of Jaws, and the
changes in the support strategies for international users of
Freedomscientific, I have no option but to equip myself with the
necessary skills to use NVDA efficiently.

Thanks to the user guide and the audio tutorial (the only one I heard
was that about cursers and object navigation), the migration has been
easy so far.

Query: the only problem I am facing is the noticeable lag with NVDA
while typing or navigating using keyboard.

To give an example, if I am on any browser (I know Firefox is better
supported here), and I do a google search or open the user guide of
NVDA, and if I jump by headings, while my key press may be 3 or 4
times, NVDA will be stuck on the first key press and there will be a
noticeable delay for it to come up to the heading after last key
press.

I am using NVDA 2015.1 with ESpeak, on Windows 7 Pro with all latest
updates. Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4300U CPU @ 1.90GHz   2.50
GHz
Installed memory (RAM): 4.00 GB (3.42 GB usable)

What do you think can be the cause and the solution for the same?
Is the fact that it is running on Pithon and not on C++ or other
languages due to which NVDA may require better ram and processor a
problem?

Any response will be highly appreciated.

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com



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