Re: [AI] Urgent, is low vision covered under the definition of blindness?

2015-06-10 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
Yes, if their rules say that the scribe facility would be provided to
blind and low vision both, it is fine.
But the representative of the Public Service Commission interpreted
blind to those who don't have any sight, that's why they didn't
allow me to appear in the examination along with my scribe.
I will ask the government to amend this rule next time, but what about
the lost opportunity where I  have been wrongly denyed?
And Kanchan ma'm, see the same public service commission has announced
the vacancies to be filled shortly for the post of Assistant
Prosecuting officer (government advocates), wherein 4 vacancies are
reserved for persons with low vision. If they apply the same reasoning
that only 100% visually impaired candidate can take the scribe, it
mean the candidate, in respect of whom 4 posts have been reserved, is
unable to even appear in the examination because he is not allowed to
avail the services of the scribe. And those posts are not reserved for
completely blind person either, what does it mean, the persons who got
fake blindness certificate and are able to appear in the examination
with out scribe will get an opportunity and will be selected.

What a legal way of increasing corruption.


On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Justice Chandrachud is currently the CJ of Allahabad High Court. In Mumbai
 matters concerning PWD would generally come before the Chief Justice Of
 Bombay so I presumed it may be the same in Allahabad.
 OK why cant you say that you are a candidate with low vision and these
 scribe rules should extend to low vision as well and therefore to you. I
 would think that this is an easier reasoning.

 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of
 blindness?


 Kanchan Ma'm, you are quoting me wrong. I never claimed that I am a
 blind person, my whole argument is that having 70% visual impairment I
 should be covered under the definition of blindness given under Sec
 2(b) of PWD Act. Thus I am a blind person for the purposes mentioned
 under the Persons with disabilities Act. I am aware that low vision is
 a separet category defined under Sec 2(u) of the Act.
 But I have to challenge the arbitrary action of the Public Service
 Commission based on giving a narrow interpretation to the term blind
 having 100% visual impairment only. While Sec 2(b) include both
 categories, I.E. total absence of sight and visual acuity not acceding
 6/60 or 20/200.
 So how can you say that a person having 70% visual impairment is not
 covered under the definition of blindness?


 By the way how is the last para of your previous message i.e. Chief
 Justice Chandrachud has given many orders in favour of the Disabled
 including accessible elections is relevant to the case in hand?

 went overhead!

 On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am sorry I dont think you are on the right track.
 Yes you are entitled to challenge the UP notification and get  a scribe
 for
 the exam because you are a person with low vision but
 it is not good idea to ask for yourself to be included as  a Blind
 person.

 Chief Justice Chandrachud has given many orders in favour of the Disabled
 including accessible elections..
 Best wishes in your endeavour and please do keep me updated.


 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of
 blindness?


 Yes, my case is totally based upon the definition of blindness. I was
 not allowed to appear in Uttar Pradesh public service Commission
 examination on the same ground, that facility of the scribe is
 permitted only to blind candidates. And according to them a person is
 blind if he is having 100% visual impairment.
 So the question is that whether I am covered under the definition of
 blindness having 70% visual impairment? so that I can take the service
 of the scribe.
 Allahabad high court didn't grant me instant relief of reconducting my
 examination along with the facility of the scribe.
 The result of that preliminary examination has been declared and its
 mains exam is scheduled to be conducted by the end of June and
 Allahabad High court has listed the matter in July. That's why I had
 to rush to supreme court for instant relief.


 On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 

Re: [AI] Urgent, is low vision covered under the definition of blindness?

2015-06-10 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
I forgot to mention one thing in my previous mail, the rules of U.P
public service commission say that the facility of the scribe will be
given to the blind candidates

and they have understood this rule as blind mean who can not see at all.

On 6/10/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, if their rules say that the scribe facility would be provided to
 blind and low vision both, it is fine.
 But the representative of the Public Service Commission interpreted
 blind to those who don't have any sight, that's why they didn't
 allow me to appear in the examination along with my scribe.
 I will ask the government to amend this rule next time, but what about
 the lost opportunity where I  have been wrongly denyed?
 And Kanchan ma'm, see the same public service commission has announced
 the vacancies to be filled shortly for the post of Assistant
 Prosecuting officer (government advocates), wherein 4 vacancies are
 reserved for persons with low vision. If they apply the same reasoning
 that only 100% visually impaired candidate can take the scribe, it
 mean the candidate, in respect of whom 4 posts have been reserved, is
 unable to even appear in the examination because he is not allowed to
 avail the services of the scribe. And those posts are not reserved for
 completely blind person either, what does it mean, the persons who got
 fake blindness certificate and are able to appear in the examination
 with out scribe will get an opportunity and will be selected.

 What a legal way of increasing corruption.


 On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Justice Chandrachud is currently the CJ of Allahabad High Court. In
 Mumbai
 matters concerning PWD would generally come before the Chief Justice Of
 Bombay so I presumed it may be the same in Allahabad.
 OK why cant you say that you are a candidate with low vision and these
 scribe rules should extend to low vision as well and therefore to you. I
 would think that this is an easier reasoning.

 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of
 blindness?


 Kanchan Ma'm, you are quoting me wrong. I never claimed that I am a
 blind person, my whole argument is that having 70% visual impairment I
 should be covered under the definition of blindness given under Sec
 2(b) of PWD Act. Thus I am a blind person for the purposes mentioned
 under the Persons with disabilities Act. I am aware that low vision is
 a separet category defined under Sec 2(u) of the Act.
 But I have to challenge the arbitrary action of the Public Service
 Commission based on giving a narrow interpretation to the term blind
 having 100% visual impairment only. While Sec 2(b) include both
 categories, I.E. total absence of sight and visual acuity not acceding
 6/60 or 20/200.
 So how can you say that a person having 70% visual impairment is not
 covered under the definition of blindness?


 By the way how is the last para of your previous message i.e. Chief
 Justice Chandrachud has given many orders in favour of the Disabled
 including accessible elections is relevant to the case in hand?

 went overhead!

 On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am sorry I dont think you are on the right track.
 Yes you are entitled to challenge the UP notification and get  a scribe
 for
 the exam because you are a person with low vision but
 it is not good idea to ask for yourself to be included as  a Blind
 person.

 Chief Justice Chandrachud has given many orders in favour of the
 Disabled
 including accessible elections..
 Best wishes in your endeavour and please do keep me updated.


 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of
 blindness?


 Yes, my case is totally based upon the definition of blindness. I was
 not allowed to appear in Uttar Pradesh public service Commission
 examination on the same ground, that facility of the scribe is
 permitted only to blind candidates. And according to them a person is
 blind if he is having 100% visual impairment.
 So the question is that whether I am covered under the definition of
 blindness having 70% visual impairment? so that I can take the service
 of the scribe.
 Allahabad high court didn't grant me instant relief of reconducting my
 examination along with the facility of the 

Re: [AI] Urgent, is low vision covered under the definition of blindness?

2015-06-10 Thread kanchan Pamnani
Justice Chandrachud is currently the CJ of Allahabad High Court. In Mumbai 
matters concerning PWD would generally come before the Chief Justice Of 
Bombay so I presumed it may be the same in Allahabad.
OK why cant you say that you are a candidate with low vision and these 
scribe rules should extend to low vision as well and therefore to you. I 
would think that this is an easier reasoning.


Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of 
blindness?




Kanchan Ma'm, you are quoting me wrong. I never claimed that I am a
blind person, my whole argument is that having 70% visual impairment I
should be covered under the definition of blindness given under Sec
2(b) of PWD Act. Thus I am a blind person for the purposes mentioned
under the Persons with disabilities Act. I am aware that low vision is
a separet category defined under Sec 2(u) of the Act.
But I have to challenge the arbitrary action of the Public Service
Commission based on giving a narrow interpretation to the term blind
having 100% visual impairment only. While Sec 2(b) include both
categories, I.E. total absence of sight and visual acuity not acceding
6/60 or 20/200.
So how can you say that a person having 70% visual impairment is not
covered under the definition of blindness?


By the way how is the last para of your previous message i.e. Chief
Justice Chandrachud has given many orders in favour of the Disabled
including accessible elections is relevant to the case in hand?

went overhead!

On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:

I am sorry I dont think you are on the right track.
Yes you are entitled to challenge the UP notification and get  a scribe 
for

the exam because you are a person with low vision but
it is not good idea to ask for yourself to be included as  a Blind 
person.


Chief Justice Chandrachud has given many orders in favour of the Disabled
including accessible elections..
Best wishes in your endeavour and please do keep me updated.


Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message -
From: Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of
blindness?



Yes, my case is totally based upon the definition of blindness. I was
not allowed to appear in Uttar Pradesh public service Commission
examination on the same ground, that facility of the scribe is
permitted only to blind candidates. And according to them a person is
blind if he is having 100% visual impairment.
So the question is that whether I am covered under the definition of
blindness having 70% visual impairment? so that I can take the service
of the scribe.
Allahabad high court didn't grant me instant relief of reconducting my
examination along with the facility of the scribe.
The result of that preliminary examination has been declared and its
mains exam is scheduled to be conducted by the end of June and
Allahabad High court has listed the matter in July. That's why I had
to rush to supreme court for instant relief.


On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi
You will have to read the definition of Low Vision too. Your case seems
to
be on a slippery ground.
However no Authority can deny you the use of a scribe etc.
So if you can avoid getting into the nitty gritty of blindness and just
fight on the need for a scribe, it would be better. I have not read all
the
mails on this subject as yet so please accept my suggestion as based on
limited facts.
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message -
From: Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 11:21 PM
Subject: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of
blindness?



Hey experts, I would be thankful if somebody could explain to me the
section 2(b) of Persons with disabilities Act 1995.
For ready reference, I am reproducing the section as follows:
Sec2(b) define blindness, it provides “(b)  blindness refers to a
condition where a person suffers from any of the following conditions,
namely:---
(I)  total absence of sight.
(ii)  visual acuity not exceeding 6/60 or 20/200 (snellen) in the
better eye with correcting lenses; or
(iii)  limitation of the filed of vision subtending an angle of 20
degree or worse.”

Please explain to me the second and third point, so that I 

Re: [AI] Urgent, is low vision covered under the definition of blindness?

2015-06-10 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
Yes, my case is totally based upon the definition of blindness. I was
not allowed to appear in Uttar Pradesh public service Commission
examination on the same ground, that facility of the scribe is
permitted only to blind candidates. And according to them a person is
blind if he is having 100% visual impairment.
So the question is that whether I am covered under the definition of
blindness having 70% visual impairment? so that I can take the service
of the scribe.
Allahabad high court didn't grant me instant relief of reconducting my
examination along with the facility of the scribe.
The result of that preliminary examination has been declared and its
mains exam is scheduled to be conducted by the end of June and
Allahabad High court has listed the matter in July. That's why I had
to rush to supreme court for instant relief.


On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 You will have to read the definition of Low Vision too. Your case seems to
 be on a slippery ground.
 However no Authority can deny you the use of a scribe etc.
 So if you can avoid getting into the nitty gritty of blindness and just
 fight on the need for a scribe, it would be better. I have not read all the
 mails on this subject as yet so please accept my suggestion as based on
 limited facts.
 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 11:21 PM
 Subject: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of
 blindness?


 Hey experts, I would be thankful if somebody could explain to me the
 section 2(b) of Persons with disabilities Act 1995.
 For ready reference, I am reproducing the section as follows:
 Sec2(b) define blindness, it provides “(b)  blindness refers to a
 condition where a person suffers from any of the following conditions,
 namely:---
 (I)  total absence of sight.
 (ii)  visual acuity not exceeding 6/60 or 20/200 (snellen) in the
 better eye with correcting lenses; or
 (iii)  limitation of the filed of vision subtending an angle of 20
 degree or worse.”

 Please explain to me the second and third point, so that I could argue
 that  a person who has 10% remaining sight, is covered by the
 definition of blindness.
 The case is that who is a blind person. One point is clear that who
 has no sight is a blind person, but what is second and third point

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[AI] ESpeak Marathi / Hindi / Sindhi Training Career Counselling Workshop

2015-06-10 Thread sushmee...@voicevision.in

Dear All

Greetings from Voice Vision!

Voice Vision in partnership with NAB Delhi  CIS Bengaluru is organising 2 
workshops on 27th  28th June for persons with visual impairment in Mumbai. 

First workshop is training on ESpeak Marathi / Hindi / Sindhi usage with NVDA 
on 27th June. For sighted or blind trainers, teachers training blinds, 
individuals using Marathi to read or write. 
Second workshop is on Career Counselling, for students completed tenth 
standard and above, individuals aspiring to begin their employee career on 28th 
June. 
  
General Details:
Time: 10 am to 5:30 pm. 
Venue: SIES College of Arts, Science  Commerce, Jain Society, Sion (West), 
Mumbai - 400 022. (India). Telephone: 2407 27 29 (Office) Near Sion Bus Depot. 
Register: Click here to register now. 

Workshop details  requirements: 

1. Workshop Name: ESpeak Marathi / Hindi / Sindhi usage training with NVDA. 
A. Date 27th June
B. Venue Computer Lab 2 on 4th Floor. SIES College C. Time 10 am to 5:30 pm D. 
Carry your laptop with headphone. (Laptops with windows 7 OS are appreciated).
E. Compulsory, Carry your own headphones to use a desktop.  
F. Teachers or trainers or special educators for visually impaired sighted or 
visually impaired may participate. 
G. Individuals who are using Marathi language on computers to read  write may 
participate.   
H. Individuals in government sector using Marathi / Hindi language can 
participate.  

2. Workshop: Career Counselling. 
A. Date 28th June
B. Venue Auditorium on ground Floor. SIES College C. Time 10 am to 5:30 pm D. 
Students completed tenth standard or above may participate. 
E. Students pursuing graduation or post-graduation can join. 
F. Individuals seeking employment or self-employment can participate G. 
Teachers or trainers or special educators for visually impaired can 
participate. 
H. Organisation heads working for visually impaired can participate. 

Kindly note your participation will be confirmed, only on receiving your 
registration on our website.  To register Click here. 

Voice Vision always welcomes outstation participants. 
For these workshops, first 10 outstation participants accommodation is 
organised  sponsored in a dormitory style of setup.   

Interested individuals may contact Sushmeetha on 022 4040, between 12 noon 
to 6pm Monday to Saturday, or email on cont...@voicevision.in   

Register at the earliest if you don't wish to miss it. 
Looking forward to an overwhelming participation. 
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Voice Vision
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[AI] That is why i love dogs

2015-06-10 Thread Ekinath Khedekar
Here is the link
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[AI] Eyeway's alerts for the day

2015-06-10 Thread Eyeway Helpdesk
Dear Listers:

Kindly follow the alerts for the day below:

1. News Alerts-

The Hospital Cornea Retrieval Programme (HCRP), launched at Sassoon
Hospital in November last year, has raised the hopes of
visually-impaired people. Thanks to HCRP, the availability of good
quality corneal tissues in the city has now become easier. Pune is the
first city in the State and the third in the country where HCRP has
been launched. It is a Public-Private-Partnership Programme under
which the Government of Maharashtra has signed a Memorandum of
Understanding (MoU) with US-based NGO Sightlife and HV Desai Eye
Hospital based in Mohommadwadi in Pune. More at
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=corneal-retrieval-initiative-raises-hopes-visually-impaired

It's hard to imagine a successful sportsman facing obstacles when it
comes to employment: And yet, Ketan Patel, who was awarded
Man-Of-The-Series in the ODI and T20 cricket series in England (held
recently) has returned to his home town flushed with success, but
without any job prospects in sight. Visually-challenged Patel, who
returned to Mumbai yesterday, revealed that his team's success did not
alleviate his worries about finding a job in his home country in an
interview with Mid-day
http://www.mid-day.com/articles/blind-cricketer-who-won-man-of-the-series-in-england-has-no-job-at-home/16269165.
“I was part of the World Cup team and now these two memorable series,
but will these performances count for something? Despite several pleas
to the Gujarat government, I have not been able to get a much-needed
job,” he said. More at
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=blind-cricketer-who-won-world-cup-india-cannot-find-job

2. Job Alerts-

Required Utility Operator in Bharat Petroleum Corporation Limited
(BPCL), Mumbai. Qualification: First Class Full Time Diploma in
Mechanical/Electrical Engineering from a Government Polytechnic or
equivalent Government recognized Institute of repute.  Candidates
possessing First Class Boiler Attendant Certificate will have an added
advantage. Experience: A minimum of one year of experience in Boilers
and Waste Heat Boilers, Gas Turbines, DM Plant, Air Compressors, Air
Driers, Cooling Towers, Effluent Treatment Plant, etc. in a Factory /
Manufacturing Unit of repute. However, any training will not be
considered as experience. Age Limit: Maximum age 30 years. Last date
15th June. More at http://www.eyeway.org/?q=jobs  or employment news
of 30th  May  page no. 5

There is one post for Visually Impaired as Assistant (General, Finance
 Accounts, Stores  Purchase) in CSIR-National Geophysical Research
Institute, Hyderabad. Qualification: 10+2/XII or its equivalent and
typing speed of 35 w.p.m in English or 30 w.p.m in Hindi on computer.
Age Limit: 28 years. Last date 26th June. Apply online. More at
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=jobs  or employment news of 6th  June  page
no. 7

3. Event Alert-

Voice Vision in partnership with NAB Delhi  CIS Bengaluru is
organising 2 workshops on 27th  28th June for persons with visual
impairment in Mumbai. First workshop is training on ESpeak Marathi /
Hindi / Sindhi usage with NVDA on 27th June. For sighted or blind
trainers, teachers training blinds, individuals using Marathi to read
or write. Second workshop is on Career Counselling, for students
completed tenth standard and above, individuals aspiring to begin
their employee career on 28th June. Time: 10 am to 5:30 pm. Venue:
SIES College of Arts, Science  Commerce, Jain Society, Sion (West),
Mumbai.  First 10 outstation participants accommodation is organised 
sponsored in a dormitory style of setup. Interested individuals may
contact Sushmeetha on 022 4040, between 12 noon to 6pm Monday to
Saturday, or email on cont...@voicevision.in. More at
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=workshop-visually-impaired

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[AI] JFW service dialogue??

2015-06-10 Thread Mujeeb Rahman
Friends,

I’m using a Windows xp machine at office with jaws 13. Today, I got my
system formatted and there after when I installed my dongle jaws on
it, it’s not coming by default at the log on screen and have to start
it manually once I’m landed on the desktop. Not only this, while
trying to check the check box at the basic settings to start jaws
automatically, an error pops up and says: jfw dialogue, couldn’t open
service manager, ok button. Due to the same I’m not able to navigate
through the log on screen. It’s a common system, hence the user will
be changed from shift to shift.

It’s quite crucial for me to have jaws at the log on screen to be an
independent user like others. For which, I beg your help in all the
manners.


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Re: [AI] Delhi: Visually challenged woman accuses man of rape

2015-06-10 Thread avinash shahi
Don't name the victims.
Just do stories with name changed, And expose the wrong-doings. Things
will become better.

On 6/10/15, akshun mahajan akshunmahajan...@gmail.com wrote:
 i agree dear avinash with you and the saddest thing that most of our
 NGOs are hiding and becoming saveguard of culprits so image of their
 NGO could not be tarnished.
 i spoke with some NGO's people over same issue of the record means
 privately and response was shoking.
 i have even noticed on person who was accuse of sexual  assault
 terminated from the one NGO and working again in other NGO.
 Let us get together and fight against.
 I always try to do my best but their are certain cases where you are
 not allowed to take the name of victims  then in that scenario  we
 have no proofed  and culprits takes advantage of it and get away.
 There was a victim i told her that i will expose all but she told not
 to do anything even if i did anything on behalf of her she will not
 support me and declare it is fake story now you tell in this case what
 can i do?


 On 6/10/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 There are many more such cases Danish,you should do a radio report by
 visiting the cite.
 Private hospitals in that region are testimony to the fact that blind
 women very frequently visit there to abort their child developing in
 their womb.. And some of the girls have underwent life-threatening
 operations at the later stage. Many have been informed by doctors that
 they can't bear child anymore. Why I'm giving all these details,cause
 we should be equally mindful of the fact things are not going smooth
 in our community. And certainly, we should raise difficult questions
 which are swept under the carpet.




 On 6/10/15, akshun mahajan akshunmahajan...@gmail.com wrote:
 very disturbing news indeed but who is this idiot?

 On 6/10/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Such news is very disturbing. I have heard from close sources that
 there is a big racket is being runned by blind men in western and
 north-eastern Delhi to woo blind women for sex on the pretext of
 marriage. Not only this, poor blind women who have no hope of marrying
 to sighted people are easily falling prey to such ploy. Moreover,
 delayed marriages, unavailability of sexual partner for many,  and
 avoidance of contraceptives are leading to all unwanted consiquences.
 Hence we need an institutionalized advocacy support and councelling
 system to tackle such cases which I have been advocating for long. Sex
 is certainly a primary need and if it is not available timely, we are
 bound to hear such stories. psychological conditions such as
 frustration, depression, and prolonged dejection are bound to surface.
 Visually challenged woman accuses man of rape
 http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/visually-challenged-woman-accuses-man-of-rape/article7300271.ece


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[AI] CCPD judgemen on banking on 5 september 2005

2015-06-10 Thread Akash Gupta
Dear friends,
Please  send me the judgement of CCPD on 5th september 2005 regarding
banking facilities to persons with disabilities.

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vision. By Helen Keller.
The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision.
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Rajasthan
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Re: [AI] CCPD judgemen on banking on 5 september 2005

2015-06-10 Thread kanchan Pamnani
Why would you want this judgement. After this judgement you have the RBI 
circular and the IBA guidelines which go much further than the judgement. 
Please dont go back to the old position.


Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:54 PM
Subject: [AI] CCPD judgemen on banking on 5 september 2005



Dear friends,
Please  send me the judgement of CCPD on 5th september 2005 regarding
banking facilities to persons with disabilities.

--
The most pathetic person in the world is someone who has sight but no
vision. By Helen Keller.
The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision.
By Helen Keller.
--
With Warm Regards,
Akash Gupta
Rajasthan
Skype: akash.gupta2412



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Re: [AI] Urgent, is low vision covered under the definition of blindness?

2015-06-10 Thread anjali Anand
well,
apart from the definition of blindness and the percentage of visual
accuity, and category of low vision, you also have to remember that to
be covered under pwd, it is imperitive that the extent of disability
must necessarily be 40% or more.
70% vision means only 30% of vision loss.
the facilities and accomodations would be hard to seek unless 40% of
disability criteria is fulfilled.

best wishes




On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am sorry I dont think you are on the right track.
 Yes you are entitled to challenge the UP notification and get  a scribe for
 the exam because you are a person with low vision but
 it is not good idea to ask for yourself to be included as  a Blind person.

 Chief Justice Chandrachud has given many orders in favour of the Disabled
 including accessible elections..
 Best wishes in your endeavour and please do keep me updated.


 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of
 blindness?


 Yes, my case is totally based upon the definition of blindness. I was
 not allowed to appear in Uttar Pradesh public service Commission
 examination on the same ground, that facility of the scribe is
 permitted only to blind candidates. And according to them a person is
 blind if he is having 100% visual impairment.
 So the question is that whether I am covered under the definition of
 blindness having 70% visual impairment? so that I can take the service
 of the scribe.
 Allahabad high court didn't grant me instant relief of reconducting my
 examination along with the facility of the scribe.
 The result of that preliminary examination has been declared and its
 mains exam is scheduled to be conducted by the end of June and
 Allahabad High court has listed the matter in July. That's why I had
 to rush to supreme court for instant relief.


 On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 You will have to read the definition of Low Vision too. Your case seems
 to
 be on a slippery ground.
 However no Authority can deny you the use of a scribe etc.
 So if you can avoid getting into the nitty gritty of blindness and just
 fight on the need for a scribe, it would be better. I have not read all
 the
 mails on this subject as yet so please accept my suggestion as based on
 limited facts.
 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 11:21 PM
 Subject: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of
 blindness?


 Hey experts, I would be thankful if somebody could explain to me the
 section 2(b) of Persons with disabilities Act 1995.
 For ready reference, I am reproducing the section as follows:
 Sec2(b) define blindness, it provides “(b)  blindness refers to a
 condition where a person suffers from any of the following conditions,
 namely:---
 (I)  total absence of sight.
 (ii)  visual acuity not exceeding 6/60 or 20/200 (snellen) in the
 better eye with correcting lenses; or
 (iii)  limitation of the filed of vision subtending an angle of 20
 degree or worse.”

 Please explain to me the second and third point, so that I could argue
 that  a person who has 10% remaining sight, is covered by the
 definition of blindness.
 The case is that who is a blind person. One point is clear that who
 has no sight is a blind person, but what is second and third point

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Re: [AI] Delhi: Visually challenged woman accuses man of rape

2015-06-10 Thread avinash shahi
There are many more such cases Danish,you should do a radio report by
visiting the cite.
Private hospitals in that region are testimony to the fact that blind
women very frequently visit there to abort their child developing in
their womb.. And some of the girls have underwent life-threatening
operations at the later stage. Many have been informed by doctors that
they can't bear child anymore. Why I'm giving all these details,cause
we should be equally mindful of the fact things are not going smooth
in our community. And certainly, we should raise difficult questions
which are swept under the carpet.




On 6/10/15, akshun mahajan akshunmahajan...@gmail.com wrote:
 very disturbing news indeed but who is this idiot?

 On 6/10/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Such news is very disturbing. I have heard from close sources that
 there is a big racket is being runned by blind men in western and
 north-eastern Delhi to woo blind women for sex on the pretext of
 marriage. Not only this, poor blind women who have no hope of marrying
 to sighted people are easily falling prey to such ploy. Moreover,
 delayed marriages, unavailability of sexual partner for many,  and
 avoidance of contraceptives are leading to all unwanted consiquences.
 Hence we need an institutionalized advocacy support and councelling
 system to tackle such cases which I have been advocating for long. Sex
 is certainly a primary need and if it is not available timely, we are
 bound to hear such stories. psychological conditions such as
 frustration, depression, and prolonged dejection are bound to surface.
 Visually challenged woman accuses man of rape
 http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/visually-challenged-woman-accuses-man-of-rape/article7300271.ece


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 Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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Re: [AI] Delhi: Visually challenged woman accuses man of rape

2015-06-10 Thread akshun mahajan
i agree dear avinash with you and the saddest thing that most of our
NGOs are hiding and becoming saveguard of culprits so image of their
NGO could not be tarnished.
i spoke with some NGO's people over same issue of the record means
privately and response was shoking.
i have even noticed on person who was accuse of sexual  assault
terminated from the one NGO and working again in other NGO.
Let us get together and fight against.
I always try to do my best but their are certain cases where you are
not allowed to take the name of victims  then in that scenario  we
have no proofed  and culprits takes advantage of it and get away.
There was a victim i told her that i will expose all but she told not
to do anything even if i did anything on behalf of her she will not
support me and declare it is fake story now you tell in this case what
can i do?


On 6/10/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 There are many more such cases Danish,you should do a radio report by
 visiting the cite.
 Private hospitals in that region are testimony to the fact that blind
 women very frequently visit there to abort their child developing in
 their womb.. And some of the girls have underwent life-threatening
 operations at the later stage. Many have been informed by doctors that
 they can't bear child anymore. Why I'm giving all these details,cause
 we should be equally mindful of the fact things are not going smooth
 in our community. And certainly, we should raise difficult questions
 which are swept under the carpet.




 On 6/10/15, akshun mahajan akshunmahajan...@gmail.com wrote:
 very disturbing news indeed but who is this idiot?

 On 6/10/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Such news is very disturbing. I have heard from close sources that
 there is a big racket is being runned by blind men in western and
 north-eastern Delhi to woo blind women for sex on the pretext of
 marriage. Not only this, poor blind women who have no hope of marrying
 to sighted people are easily falling prey to such ploy. Moreover,
 delayed marriages, unavailability of sexual partner for many,  and
 avoidance of contraceptives are leading to all unwanted consiquences.
 Hence we need an institutionalized advocacy support and councelling
 system to tackle such cases which I have been advocating for long. Sex
 is certainly a primary need and if it is not available timely, we are
 bound to hear such stories. psychological conditions such as
 frustration, depression, and prolonged dejection are bound to surface.
 Visually challenged woman accuses man of rape
 http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/visually-challenged-woman-accuses-man-of-rape/article7300271.ece


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[AI] ESpeak Marathi / Hindi / Sindhi Training Career Counselling Workshop

2015-06-10 Thread sushmee...@voicevision.in

Dear All

Greetings from Voice Vision!

Voice Vision in partnership with NAB Delhi  CIS Bengaluru is organising 2 
workshops on 27th  28th June for persons with visual impairment in Mumbai. 

First workshop is training on ESpeak Marathi / Hindi / Sindhi usage with NVDA 
on 27th June. For sighted or blind trainers, teachers training blinds, 
individuals using Marathi to read or write. 
Second workshop is on Career Counselling, for students completed tenth 
standard and above, individuals aspiring to begin their employee career on 28th 
June. 
  
General Details:
Time: 10 am to 5:30 pm. 
Venue: SIES College of Arts, Science  Commerce, Jain Society, Sion (West), 
Mumbai - 400 022. (India). Telephone: 2407 27 29 (Office) Near Sion Bus Depot. 
Register: Click here to register now. 

Workshop details  requirements: 

1. Workshop Name: ESpeak Marathi / Hindi / Sindhi usage training with NVDA. 
A. Date 27th June
B. Venue Computer Lab 2 on 4th Floor. SIES College C. Time 10 am to 5:30 pm D. 
Carry your laptop with headphone. (Laptops with windows 7 OS are appreciated).
E. Compulsory, Carry your own headphones to use a desktop.  
F. Teachers or trainers or special educators for visually impaired sighted or 
visually impaired may participate. 
G. Individuals who are using Marathi language on computers to read  write may 
participate.   
H. Individuals in government sector using Marathi / Hindi language can 
participate.  

2. Workshop: Career Counselling. 
A. Date 28th June
B. Venue Auditorium on ground Floor. SIES College C. Time 10 am to 5:30 pm D. 
Students completed tenth standard or above may participate. 
E. Students pursuing graduation or post-graduation can join. 
F. Individuals seeking employment or self-employment can participate G. 
Teachers or trainers or special educators for visually impaired can 
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Re: [AI] CCPD judgemen on banking on 5 september 2005

2015-06-10 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
RBI and IBA guidelines don't talk in details about issuing cheques.
CCPD guidelines give a way out..


सादर With thanks and regards

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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [AI] CCPD judgemen on banking on 5 september 2005

Why would you want this judgement. After this judgement you have the RBI 
circular and the IBA guidelines which go much further than the judgement.
Please dont go back to the old position.

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Battery Street, Colaba,
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Subject: [AI] CCPD judgemen on banking on 5 september 2005


 Dear friends,
 Please  send me the judgement of CCPD on 5th september 2005 regarding
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Re: [AI] Urgent, is low vision covered under the definition of blindness?

2015-06-10 Thread kanchan Pamnani

I am sorry I dont think you are on the right track.
Yes you are entitled to challenge the UP notification and get  a scribe for 
the exam because you are a person with low vision but

it is not good idea to ask for yourself to be included as  a Blind person.

Chief Justice Chandrachud has given many orders in favour of the Disabled 
including accessible elections..

Best wishes in your endeavour and please do keep me updated.


Kanchan Pamnani
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9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message - 
From: Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of 
blindness?




Yes, my case is totally based upon the definition of blindness. I was
not allowed to appear in Uttar Pradesh public service Commission
examination on the same ground, that facility of the scribe is
permitted only to blind candidates. And according to them a person is
blind if he is having 100% visual impairment.
So the question is that whether I am covered under the definition of
blindness having 70% visual impairment? so that I can take the service
of the scribe.
Allahabad high court didn't grant me instant relief of reconducting my
examination along with the facility of the scribe.
The result of that preliminary examination has been declared and its
mains exam is scheduled to be conducted by the end of June and
Allahabad High court has listed the matter in July. That's why I had
to rush to supreme court for instant relief.


On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi
You will have to read the definition of Low Vision too. Your case seems 
to

be on a slippery ground.
However no Authority can deny you the use of a scribe etc.
So if you can avoid getting into the nitty gritty of blindness and just
fight on the need for a scribe, it would be better. I have not read all 
the

mails on this subject as yet so please accept my suggestion as based on
limited facts.
Kanchan Pamnani
Advocate  Solicitor
9, Suleman Chambers,
Battery Street, Colaba,
Mumbai - 400 039.



- Original Message -
From: Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 11:21 PM
Subject: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of
blindness?



Hey experts, I would be thankful if somebody could explain to me the
section 2(b) of Persons with disabilities Act 1995.
For ready reference, I am reproducing the section as follows:
Sec2(b) define blindness, it provides “(b)  blindness refers to a
condition where a person suffers from any of the following conditions,
namely:---
(I)  total absence of sight.
(ii)  visual acuity not exceeding 6/60 or 20/200 (snellen) in the
better eye with correcting lenses; or
(iii)  limitation of the filed of vision subtending an angle of 20
degree or worse.”

Please explain to me the second and third point, so that I could argue
that  a person who has 10% remaining sight, is covered by the
definition of blindness.
The case is that who is a blind person. One point is clear that who
has no sight is a blind person, but what is second and third point

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Re: [AI] Urgent, is low vision covered under the definition of blindness?

2015-06-10 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
Kanchan Ma'm, you are quoting me wrong. I never claimed that I am a
blind person, my whole argument is that having 70% visual impairment I
should be covered under the definition of blindness given under Sec
2(b) of PWD Act. Thus I am a blind person for the purposes mentioned
under the Persons with disabilities Act. I am aware that low vision is
a separet category defined under Sec 2(u) of the Act.
But I have to challenge the arbitrary action of the Public Service
Commission based on giving a narrow interpretation to the term blind
having 100% visual impairment only. While Sec 2(b) include both
categories, I.E. total absence of sight and visual acuity not acceding
6/60 or 20/200.
So how can you say that a person having 70% visual impairment is not
covered under the definition of blindness?


By the way how is the last para of your previous message i.e. Chief
Justice Chandrachud has given many orders in favour of the Disabled
including accessible elections is relevant to the case in hand?

went overhead!

On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am sorry I dont think you are on the right track.
 Yes you are entitled to challenge the UP notification and get  a scribe for
 the exam because you are a person with low vision but
 it is not good idea to ask for yourself to be included as  a Blind person.

 Chief Justice Chandrachud has given many orders in favour of the Disabled
 including accessible elections..
 Best wishes in your endeavour and please do keep me updated.


 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of
 blindness?


 Yes, my case is totally based upon the definition of blindness. I was
 not allowed to appear in Uttar Pradesh public service Commission
 examination on the same ground, that facility of the scribe is
 permitted only to blind candidates. And according to them a person is
 blind if he is having 100% visual impairment.
 So the question is that whether I am covered under the definition of
 blindness having 70% visual impairment? so that I can take the service
 of the scribe.
 Allahabad high court didn't grant me instant relief of reconducting my
 examination along with the facility of the scribe.
 The result of that preliminary examination has been declared and its
 mains exam is scheduled to be conducted by the end of June and
 Allahabad High court has listed the matter in July. That's why I had
 to rush to supreme court for instant relief.


 On 6/10/15, kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 You will have to read the definition of Low Vision too. Your case seems
 to
 be on a slippery ground.
 However no Authority can deny you the use of a scribe etc.
 So if you can avoid getting into the nitty gritty of blindness and just
 fight on the need for a scribe, it would be better. I have not read all
 the
 mails on this subject as yet so please accept my suggestion as based on
 limited facts.
 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.



 - Original Message -
 From: Mohib Anwar Rafay mohibra...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 11:21 PM
 Subject: [AI] Urgent,is low vision covered under the definition of
 blindness?


 Hey experts, I would be thankful if somebody could explain to me the
 section 2(b) of Persons with disabilities Act 1995.
 For ready reference, I am reproducing the section as follows:
 Sec2(b) define blindness, it provides “(b)  blindness refers to a
 condition where a person suffers from any of the following conditions,
 namely:---
 (I)  total absence of sight.
 (ii)  visual acuity not exceeding 6/60 or 20/200 (snellen) in the
 better eye with correcting lenses; or
 (iii)  limitation of the filed of vision subtending an angle of 20
 degree or worse.”

 Please explain to me the second and third point, so that I could argue
 that  a person who has 10% remaining sight, is covered by the
 definition of blindness.
 The case is that who is a blind person. One point is clear that who
 has no sight is a blind person, but what is second and third point

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[AI] How to read comments in Microsoft word?

2015-06-10 Thread abhay kanwar
Hello all
I submitted one of my submissions to my professor. He has mailed me
back by giving me some comments in it, kindly let me know how to read
comments in the docx file. I am using MS office 2007 with windows 7 32
bit and jaws version 13.
Waiting to hear from you
Abhay vir singh Kanwar
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Re: [AI] JFW service dialogue??

2015-06-10 Thread Aravind R
Press windows u combination in log in screen. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 10-Jun-2015, at 6:11 pm, Mujeeb Rahman m4mujeebrah...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Friends,
 
 I’m using a Windows xp machine at office with jaws 13. Today, I got my
 system formatted and there after when I installed my dongle jaws on
 it, it’s not coming by default at the log on screen and have to start
 it manually once I’m landed on the desktop. Not only this, while
 trying to check the check box at the basic settings to start jaws
 automatically, an error pops up and says: jfw dialogue, couldn’t open
 service manager, ok button. Due to the same I’m not able to navigate
 through the log on screen. It’s a common system, hence the user will
 be changed from shift to shift.
 
 It’s quite crucial for me to have jaws at the log on screen to be an
 independent user like others. For which, I beg your help in all the
 manners.
 
 
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[AI] regarding special fecilities and provisions for the vh professors.

2015-06-10 Thread sreenivas choudari
hie dear list  members good evening to all, i am g. sreenivasarao i am
in urgent need of some information relating to ugc.  i want to know
special ugc provitions for the vh assistant and assosiate professors
relating to cas scheme and other financial assistance those who are
working under ugc universities is there any technical and equipment
support from ugc for visually handicapped assistant professors other
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Re: [AI] person working in banks reply pls regarding special handicap allowance and ITR Return

2015-06-10 Thread PAULMUDDHA
My friend, this conveyance allowance of Rs.400 is exempt from Incometax.
Banks don't take into account this allowance.
Don't worry.
Regards
Paul

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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:33 AM
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Subject: [AI] person working in banks reply pls regarding special handicap
allowance and ITR Return

Hello every one!.
Hello to all!
In banks we get special handicap allowance of rs 400
   Sow any one who file ITR can tell?
In ITr in witch hed should we show this allowance and is this exempt
for the tax?

Person from banking sector pls reply



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Re: [AI] 3rd challenge cup nation cricket tournament for the blind

2015-06-10 Thread SKYLINER
Very encouraging.

Thanks for providing coverage.





On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:44:35 +0530 vivek doddamani  wrote

Blind Cricket Association India had arranged third challenger cricket



tournament for blind in Dehra Dun in Utter Khand from 4th to 7th June



2015 which is also considered as blind premier league cricket



tournament. total 54 players from 16 states had participated in the



tournament which were divided into 4 groups Challanger Blue,



Challanger orange, Challanger Red  Challanger yellow, this tournament



was an unique tournament each team had players from different states,



this tournament was a great success in the history of blind cricket in



India though this was third challenger cup since 2013 but this



tournament was great success. BCA is very much grateful to all the



sponcerors who helped this tournament to become great success,



especially Dun public school for extending their support for third



time in providing ground  other amenities.







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[AI] how to work with talley using jaws or NVDA

2015-06-10 Thread Aravind R
hi friends,
is there any way to work in talley using NVDA?
or is jaws script the only way to work with talley?

-- 
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

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[AI] Delhi: Visually challenged woman accuses man of rape

2015-06-10 Thread avinash shahi
Such news is very disturbing. I have heard from close sources that
there is a big racket is being runned by blind men in western and
north-eastern Delhi to woo blind women for sex on the pretext of
marriage. Not only this, poor blind women who have no hope of marrying
to sighted people are easily falling prey to such ploy. Moreover,
delayed marriages, unavailability of sexual partner for many,  and
avoidance of contraceptives are leading to all unwanted consiquences.
Hence we need an institutionalized advocacy support and councelling
system to tackle such cases which I have been advocating for long. Sex
is certainly a primary need and if it is not available timely, we are
bound to hear such stories. psychological conditions such as
frustration, depression, and prolonged dejection are bound to surface.
Visually challenged woman accuses man of rape
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/visually-challenged-woman-accuses-man-of-rape/article7300271.ece


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Re: [AI] Delhi: Visually challenged woman accuses man of rape

2015-06-10 Thread akshun mahajan
very disturbing news indeed but who is this idiot?

On 6/10/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Such news is very disturbing. I have heard from close sources that
 there is a big racket is being runned by blind men in western and
 north-eastern Delhi to woo blind women for sex on the pretext of
 marriage. Not only this, poor blind women who have no hope of marrying
 to sighted people are easily falling prey to such ploy. Moreover,
 delayed marriages, unavailability of sexual partner for many,  and
 avoidance of contraceptives are leading to all unwanted consiquences.
 Hence we need an institutionalized advocacy support and councelling
 system to tackle such cases which I have been advocating for long. Sex
 is certainly a primary need and if it is not available timely, we are
 bound to hear such stories. psychological conditions such as
 frustration, depression, and prolonged dejection are bound to surface.
 Visually challenged woman accuses man of rape
 http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/visually-challenged-woman-accuses-man-of-rape/article7300271.ece


 --
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 Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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[AI] Challenging story of a visually challenged IAS officer

2015-06-10 Thread Kotian, H P

All
A very interesting story which did not hit the list. Copying it below.
Harish Kotian

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Hi AccessIndia,
Your friend, Joel Vergis, sent you this message:
Challenging story of a visually challenged IAS officer
Click the following to access the sent link
Ajit Kumar Yadav's Enduring Vision

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Re: [AI] Note taking application for laptop

2015-06-10 Thread Rejin Jose k.
hello,thanks for the messages.
I'm looking for a kind of application like MS oneNote.
I've checked the jaws script for OneNote,it is not much better to work.
is their any free alternatives for  OneNote?
I'm looking for  either open source or free application.




On 6/10/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 The Windows notepad works nicely for note taking. However, if you want
 something
 more feature rich, look at OpenOffice version 4 which is quite accessible.
 If
 you need to take short notes, you may want to consider using the leasey
 product
 from http://www.hartgen.org.

 You may also consider using one note from Microsoft. I believe jaws
 configuration files are available for this product.
 Pranav
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of
 Rejin Jose k.
 Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 10:15 PM
 To: accessindia
 Subject: [AI] Note taking application for laptop

 hi all,
 hope all are doing well.
 I'm  using windows 7 laptop with jaws 16.
 I need a free note taking application to use in my college. the main
 use is to keep my notes in a systematic manner and to take notes while
 the session is going on.   so please share the knowledge about the
 applications available to meet my needs.

 expecting the best guidance.:-)
 --
 With Warm Regards,
 Rejin Jose
 email:m2re...@gmail.com
 cell:8281293699

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[AI] regarding toll tax exemption

2015-06-10 Thread srinivas.karnati
Dear friends good evening to all of you, recently a circular was posted in this 
list, regarding toll tax exemption. I also got the same from AICB. Today MrJ. 
L. Kaul Recipient of Padma Shri Award 2014 Secretary General All India 
Confederation of the Blind has stated that (At the outset, I apologize for 
circulating the toll tax exemption circular which proved a fake one.  We had 
received that copy and sent it to you all to share this good news.  But in fact 
some person had inserted the category of physically handicapped in the main 
circular and sent to some persons.) This is for your kind information. I 
request all the members not to do so.

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Re: [AI] How to read comments in Microsoft word?

2015-06-10 Thread Pranav Lal
Hi,
Enter quick navihgation mode and hit the letter n. You can use this to move from
comment to comment. If jaws 13 does not have this feature, then I suspect you
will have to read line by line. Jaws will tell you if there is a comment in the
text.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
abhay kanwar
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:17 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] How to read comments in Microsoft word?

Hello all
I submitted one of my submissions to my professor. He has mailed me back by
giving me some comments in it, kindly let me know how to read comments in the
docx file. I am using MS office 2007 with windows 7 32 bit and jaws version 13.
Waiting to hear from you
Abhay vir singh Kanwar
+917738709712



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[AI] Wanted a clarification regarding Indian Bank

2015-06-10 Thread Amrita gupta
Dear All,
I have been selected as Assistant Manager (language Officer) in Indian
Bank and have got the appointment letter from the bank. In the
appointment letter they have mentioned Computer Proficiency and IIBF
Entry Level Exam.
Can anyone give detailed information about the same?
It would be a great help from your side to me.

Regard's
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Re: [AI] suggest me scanner please

2015-06-10 Thread Arjun Malhotra
I got a copy of Nuance Power PDF along with brother scanner. I'm using
it.It  uses Omnia OCR Engine and its really good.

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 Hi Arjun,

 What program are you using for OCR?

 Pranav

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 Of
 Arjun Malhotra
 Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 10:45 PM
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 the
 disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] suggest me scanner please

 Alternatively one can go for automatic document feeder scanners. These
 scanners
 are both simplex and duplex. Scan quality is better than flatbed and camera
 based solutions. Such scanners excel in speed. One caveat is that one need
 to
 unbind the books. For books you need to invest in duplex ADS scanner. I'm
 using
 brother ads 2100 scanner. The performance is satisfactory.

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 Raju,

 Look at scanners from Cannon. Be warned, you may have to invest in OCR.

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Re: [AI] FW: Shopping- groceries

2015-06-10 Thread Aravind R
amazon can be used to buy groseries people are saying.
ibufresh.com and spiceraja websights can be used for purchasing
vegitables online

On 6/11/15, Divyanshu Ganatra dngana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Kanchan,
 my friends use and swear by Grofers. havent downloaded and used the
 app myself but have heard that the  company is very responsive to
 feedback. maybe you could try and let us know.

 Thanks
 Divyanshu
 On 6/4/15, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 Forwarding a post which did not come through.
 Harish Kotian

 - Original Message -
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 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.inmailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:13 PM
 Subject: Shopping- groceries

 Hi Is anyone using a app on IPhone or  a website on the computer for
 purchasing groceries on the Net.
 Is there any app or website which is fully accessible.
 Share any personal experiences please
 Thanks
 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
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Re: [AI] CCPD judgemen on banking on 5 september 2005

2015-06-10 Thread Akash Gupta
On 10/06/2015, kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why would you want this judgement. After this judgement you have the RBI
 circular and the IBA guidelines which go much further than the judgement.
 Please dont go back to the old position.

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 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:54 PM
 Subject: [AI] CCPD judgemen on banking on 5 september 2005


 Dear friends,
 Please  send me the judgement of CCPD on 5th september 2005 regarding
 banking facilities to persons with disabilities.

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Rajasthan
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Re: [AI] regarding toll tax exemption

2015-06-10 Thread Divyanshu Ganatra
Briliant! no wonder they did not  accept my copy at the toll bbooth. wasted!

On 6/10/15, srinivas.karnati srinivas.carn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends good evening to all of you, recently a circular was posted in
 this list, regarding toll tax exemption. I also got the same from AICB.
 Today MrJ. L. Kaul Recipient of Padma Shri Award 2014 Secretary General All
 India Confederation of the Blind has stated that (At the outset, I apologize
 for circulating the toll tax exemption circular which proved a fake one.  We
 had received that copy and sent it to you all to share this good news.  But
 in fact some person had inserted the category of physically handicapped in
 the main circular and sent to some persons.) This is for your kind
 information. I request all the members not to do so.

 k. srinivas


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Re: [AI] regarding toll tax exemption

2015-06-10 Thread Deepak Singla
Hi all
I also have some experiences with the same  document:

On my way to Agra I paid the Toll Tax at Yamuna Express way but while
returning the Toll Tax was exempted: clearly shows the willingness of
the person deployed there either to obey the order or deny it.

On some other Tolls like Karnla Toll and Chandigarh to Ambala Toll I
got the exemption both ways without any problems.

So request you to please confirm the validity of the Toll Tax
exemption notification.

Regards
Deepak Singla



On 6/11/15, Divyanshu Ganatra dngana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Briliant! no wonder they did not  accept my copy at the toll bbooth.
 wasted!

 On 6/10/15, srinivas.karnati srinivas.carn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear friends good evening to all of you, recently a circular was posted
 in
 this list, regarding toll tax exemption. I also got the same from AICB.
 Today MrJ. L. Kaul Recipient of Padma Shri Award 2014 Secretary General
 All
 India Confederation of the Blind has stated that (At the outset, I
 apologize
 for circulating the toll tax exemption circular which proved a fake one.
 We
 had received that copy and sent it to you all to share this good news.
 But
 in fact some person had inserted the category of physically handicapped
 in
 the main circular and sent to some persons.) This is for your kind
 information. I request all the members not to do so.

 k. srinivas


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Re: [AI] FW: Shopping- groceries

2015-06-10 Thread Divyanshu Ganatra
Kanchan,
my friends use and swear by Grofers. havent downloaded and used the
app myself but have heard that the  company is very responsive to
feedback. maybe you could try and let us know.

Thanks
Divyanshu
On 6/4/15, Kotian, H P hpkot...@rbi.org.in wrote:

 Forwarding a post which did not come through.
 Harish Kotian

 - Original Message -
 From: kanchan Pamnanimailto:kanchanpamn...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.inmailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:13 PM
 Subject: Shopping- groceries

 Hi Is anyone using a app on IPhone or  a website on the computer for
 purchasing groceries on the Net.
 Is there any app or website which is fully accessible.
 Share any personal experiences please
 Thanks
 Kanchan Pamnani
 Advocate  Solicitor
 9, Suleman Chambers,
 Battery Street, Colaba,
 Mumbai - 400 039.




 
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