Re: [AI] Background music while studying and visual impairment: a student's question

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

I do study our work with background music, so there are two options that we can use one. Let’s say if you are using or if you’re working with computer, then there are programmes like VLC media player and all in which you can lower the volume so that the background music is audible, but it does not interrupt Screen reader. That’s one option. Second option would be you can have another separate device in which music being played in low volume so that it doesn’t interrupt your screen so either way I don’t think it affects concentration as much. It is definitely possible to work or study with background music.Sent from my iPhoneOn 22 Aug 2024, at 9:15 AM, Sandeep Singh  wrote:Hi, depends on an individual. Ask the student to begin with low volume background music. If it feels comfortable, all right, otherwise will have to do without it. Background music does help in drowning out the outside noise sometimes.On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 4:37 AM Cauvery Krishna  wrote:I recently had a conversation with one of my younger visually impaired students who asked if they could study with background music like sighted students. Many sighted students find that background music can help them focus, especially when solving math problems. However, for visually impaired students, the challenge is balancing their attention between the screen reader and the music., I’m curious to hear your thoughts on this topic. Are there any strategies or accommodations you’ve found helpful for visually impaired students who prefer to study with background music?Regards.Cauvery, She/her



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Re: [AI] Requesting for sharing any contact in Cisco

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Hi Rahul Vetri, here I work with Cisco as a recruiting coordinator, so he can reach out to me for any doubt or clarifications. I can be reached on my cell 9597784596. Thank you.Sent from my iPhoneOn 19 Aug 2024, at 7:00 PM, rahul agarwal  wrote:Hello everyone,Hope you’re doing greatMy name is Rahul Agarwal and I am the person with blindness. I wanted to comprehend the recruitment process of Cisco and overall culture of the organisation. could anyone please share the contact of those who are currently working with Cisco?I will be highly obliged you.Thanks and regardsRahul



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Re: [AI] regarding these new tuch screen infotainment systems in cars.

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Perhaps you could connect it with your phone with someone’s assistance, and then operate it with the fear using android, then via talkback, or if you’re using iPhone then via voiceSent from my iPhoneOn 13 Jul 2024, at 9:33 PM, UDIT Pandey  wrote:hi all,untill 2019, perhaps. Cars had those buttons stereo systems. Now, on a large scail they hav been replaced by tuchscreen infotainment systems. Almost every first or second person has that installed in there cars.So, I want to know that. How to use them if you are a visually impaired? do they have any screen reader software available?.Yes, there are some enabuled with alexa but still that alexa does not work everytime. So, how to mannage then?is there any specific moddel I should consider?yes, there are android  stereo  systems also. But, do they have talkback in them?thanks,Udit.



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Re: [AI] This is question regarding picture smart

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Just open the JPG file, press insert+space, p, and then c. When the result is displayed, then click more results link at the bottom. Note that it will not work with pdf image files.Sent from my iPhoneOn 15 Jun 2024, at 10:45 AM, Preeti Monga  wrote:Thank you for your answer. But how do I do that please guide.WarmlyPreeti Preeti Monga – Chief Executive Officer Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY!  Mobile : 91 9871701646E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.orgWebsite : www.silver-linings.orgOur Services: Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, POSH. Your Choice to partner with us contributes towards quality Education & Empowerment of Visually Impaired Girls, and providing them with secure Hostel facility at SHIKSHA (A CSR Initiative of Silver Linings) From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam Vetrivel MuruganSent: 14 June 2024 12:58To: accessindia@accessindia.org.inSubject: Re: [AI] This is question regarding picture smart Yes, pictures. Smart can recognise photos as well.Sent from my iPhoneOn 14 Jun 2024, at 12:38 PM, Preeti Monga  wrote:Hi FriendsThank you for helping me earlier.Does picture smart  describe photos on the desktop or laptop?Or only on the  internet?It says that I need to open windows explorer to be able to use this?Please guideWarmlyPreeti Preeti Monga – Chief Executive Officer  Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY!  Mobile : 91 9871701646E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.orgWebsite : www.silver-linings.orgOur Services: Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, POSH. Your Choice to partner with us contributes towards quality Education & Empowerment of Visually Impaired Girls, and providing them with secure Hostel facility at SHIKSHA (A CSR Initiative of Silver Linings) -- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/000a01dabe29%2494f8f090%24beead1b0%24%40silver-linings.org.-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/EC6CC52B-4306-41F3-A551-43F880EAF37E%40gmail.com.



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Re: [AI] This is question regarding picture smart

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Yes, pictures. Smart can recognise photos as well.Sent from my iPhoneOn 14 Jun 2024, at 12:38 PM, Preeti Monga  wrote:Hi FriendsThank you for helping me earlier.Does picture smart  describe photos on the desktop or laptop?Or only on the  internet?It says that I need to open windows explorer to be able to use this?Please guideWarmlyPreeti Preeti Monga – Chief Executive Officer Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY!  Mobile : 91 9871701646E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.orgWebsite : www.silver-linings.orgOur Services: Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes, Diversity & Inclusion, POSH. Your Choice to partner with us contributes towards quality Education & Empowerment of Visually Impaired Girls, and providing them with secure Hostel facility at SHIKSHA (A CSR Initiative of Silver Linings) 



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Re: [AI] EVM number vs. candidate

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When you enter the polling booth, you should request for the candidate list in a Braille sheet which you should be present, so ask for it, and in that it will be clearly mentioned as to which number is represented for which candidate so read that carefully and based on that you go to the voting machine and vote accordingly, but then in my personal experience The number was actually not matching. So fortunately, I had my son with me so I voted so there is a small risk, but idea every bowling good should have you know Braille sheet with that details. Thank you. Sent from my iPhoneOn 19 May 2024, at 7:03 PM, ilovec...@gmail.com wrote:As most of us rely on numbers to exercise our vote in EVM machines, is there any way to know which number is represented by which individual/party including NOTA in our constituency? 



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Re: [AI]

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

The problem does not lie with guiding method, but the problem lies with people who lack mobility to walk in such situations and also the person who understands different speed capacity of different persons et cetera. So I don’t think this guiding method itself should be blamed for this as undignified method.Sent from my iPhoneOn 6 May 2024, at 7:29 PM, Cauvery Krishna  wrote:I felt it is undignified  because the last ones in this train feel like they are being dragged. The speed is not Proportionate, further more, as they stop or slow down there is constant stepping over each other's feats. Additionally, whenever there is a turn the last ones bump in the doors or walls or railings. In my opinion this is equally undignified as when one  catches the white stick and starts dragging the VI.On Mon, 6 May 2024, 15:30 Austin Pinto,  wrote:ya, this is the best way to do it in such a situationOn Mon, May 6, 2024 at 2:47 PM  wrote:Given that there’s limited sighted person available, I don’t see any other way of assisting more than 2 or 3 persons. Moreover, why should it be considered as undignified way? In comparison to bumping in to stuff and spilling things around, this is far dignified way of guiding group of visually challenged folks. Let others think whatever they want and at least for me it is not a bother. Vetri. From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf Of Cauvery KrishnaSent: Monday, May 6, 2024 11:57 AMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.inSubject: [AI]  Question of dignity? There were three visually impaired students and one sighted volunteer, the sighted volunteer grabbed the hand of one VI student and asked  the other two to keep their hands on each other shoulders, asked the other two to walk behind the first one, essentially, forming a train. I would like to know from you all is it a dignified way? If not, what would be a dignified way to assist three VIs by one sighted volunteer? Thank you.-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAK%3DRgBAH0FFPxKZ1FknWo%3D3Pok4p1MrLfrvRvZQ%3D2W8N00e34g%40mail.gmail.com.



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Re: [AI] A Pleasant UDID experience (UDID concession percentage)?

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Yes it is applicable in Tamilnadu. I use UD Id only. In long distance buses, 
you get 1 4th concession for you along with an escort. In local whiteboard 
buses you can just show the ID and get a free ticket for you and the escort. 
The interesting thing is, you can travel in local whiteboard board bus in any 
district within the state. But unfortunately, they don’t accept UD ID of 
another state. There is a document on this, but I don’t have it with me at the 
moment.ier,n
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> On 28 Feb 2024, at 10:49 PM, Saravanan K  wrote:
> 
> Is it applicable in Tamilnadu. Shall we travel in tamilnadu busses
> using UDID card. It is permissible within state or also allowed in
> interstate travel also. Is there any document available for this.
> 
>> On 2/28/24, vadhimoo...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> It is 1 4th of the prize. As it is applicable only in government buses, the
>> rate is uniform. I am not sure of other states, But in Tamilnadu it is
>> applicable only in non-AC buses.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On
>> Behalf Of Yamuna Jivana Dasa
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 9:00 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: RE: [AI] A Pleasant UDID experience (UDID concession percentage)?
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> What is the concession we are entitled to with UDID card? Is it a percentage
>> of the full price (MRP)? Or is it just up to the individual provider if they
>> want to give concession and how much to give?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> YJd
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
>> On Behalf Of manohar vaswani
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 4:09 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] A Pleasant UDID experience
>> 
>> I have also used my UDID card only for this purpose railways should also
>> recognize UDID card for giving concession.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/28/24, harish kotian  wrote:
>>> All
>>> 
>>> Want to share this experience. I have a UDID card issued at Karnataka.
>>> I was traveling in Maharashtra state transport bus.  I asked the
>>> conductor for 2 tickets. He asked me if I had any disability card. I
>>> handed over my UDID card. He gave me a ticket for us both with
>>> concession.
>>> 
>>> I suppose this is how the UDID card should operate. This was the first
>>> time I made any use of UDID card.
>>> 
>>> Harish
>>> 
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Re: [AI] Winamp users over here?

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I think vlc media player can be tried out.Sent from my iPhoneOn 01-Feb-2024, at 11:40 PM, Yamuna Jivana Dasa  wrote:Hi Friends,Any dinosaurs like me out here still using Winamp for audio playback??I like the ease of access to the equalizer, panning and moving tracks around the playlist, all easy to use from the keyboard. After adjusting EQ to your liking, saving that preset is easy also.Then there’s a compressor plugin that you can also adjust easily, turn it on and off as you like Etc.Anyone knows if there’s any modern audio playback programs that makes all this easy also from the keyboard? Thanks.Yamuna Jivana dasa From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of minar singhSent: Tuesday, January 30, 2024 7:20 PMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.inSubject: Re: [AI] i had a good experience with SBI Hi,I took 10 lakhs for 6 years with an 8.25 % of interest rate.There is no rebate for people with disabilities. Interest rates calculation depends on several factors like customer's profile, loan amount and the tenure and the previous credit history.  On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 6:58 PM tech talks tech talks  wrote:Yes even I want to know about the interest rate of bank loans for the persons with disabilities there is any concession in it or it's remains same as all On Tue, 30 Jan, 2024, 5:58 pm Sushmeetha Bubna,  wrote:Congratulations! Its great to know your ease of transacting with SBI. May I know the amount of loan and the rate of interest charged? If not on the mailing group, feel free to reply privately to me.  Reason of asking this to support one of our beneficiary. Hope you understand.    Best Regards,Sushmeetha B. Bubna | Founder Director Voice Vision103, Synthofine Estate,’ A’- Wing, Off Aarey Road, Goregaon (E), Mumbai – 400 063.Work Phone: +91 22 4040  │  Fax: +91 22 40400123  │  Hand Phone: +91 9820566010Email:  sushmee...@voicevision.in  │  Web: www.voicevision.inBasudeo Bubna Memorial Trust   │  Web: www.bubna.com Join us onFacebook, Youtube, Instagram, Twitter From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf Of minar singhSent: Tuesday, January 30, 2024 5:19 PMTo: accessindia@accessindia.org.inSubject: [AI] i had a good experience with SBI Hello Access Indians,SBI sanctioned the home loan for me with the minimal documents within 10minutes. I did not face any challenges due to my blindness and thumbimpression.i'm thankful to SBI team.-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAFaicuFfuy08m8K_0K%3DZPuw2D29rt1_z0Dz68pbq8CDQnNY-zA%40mail.gmail.com.-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/024a01da5377%24c6e3ea50%2454abbef0%24%40voicevision.in.-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..  Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAKudPSEZuTSp5A6sxcriqSDuHCA2Y%3Dm4NUm9JoeHvNRk4mt%3DRA%40mail.gmail.com.-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omissi

Re: [AI] GPay Question.

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I think that you should enable the speak password option under talkback settings and it may resolve the issue.Sent from my iPhoneOn 01-Feb-2024, at 8:45 AM, Amiyo Biswas  wrote:






Hello,
 
Most of the times I cannot enter the 4 digit pin at 
the start of google pay. Sometimes nothing happens, and sometimes the pin is 
entered wrong. Sometimes I can do it correctly also. In fact, in my case there 
is no feedback while entering the digits.
 
However, once the pin is successfully entered, I 
can do everything.
 
Is there any solution for the pin 
entry?
 
With best regards,Amiyo BiswasCell: 
6290527506 / 9433464329



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Re: [AI] Need a suggestion about best radio listening Android application

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

For Tamil radio stations, I use Southradios.
Sent from my iPhone

> On 24-Jan-2024, at 7:51 PM, P Subramani  wrote:
> 
> The only option is to listen to radio stations using Safari app also 
> bookmark the relevant stations for future use
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2024, at 3:36 PM, 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What is the way out to listen to radio then?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On 
>> Behalf Of Shek Mohammad Ali
>> Sent: 24 January 2024 14:53
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: RE: [AI] Need a suggestion about best radio listening Android 
>> application
>> 
>> CAUTION: This email is originated from outside Canara Bank. Do not click any 
>> links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know that the 
>> content is safe.
>> 
>> How is the accessibility of News on AIR on Android?
>> On iOS it can be manageable some extent but its UI is not pleasing.
>> For your information this is only for Indian DD news channels and national 
>> and regional radio stations.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On 
>> Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 12:27 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Need a suggestion about best radio listening Android 
>> application
>> 
>> Hey BHAWANI, please share the link for the app, as there are several apps 
>> available when we search "Radio" on playstore.
>> 
 On 1/24/24, P Subramani  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 23, 2024, at 9:16 PM, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 It is (Vradio) You can listen not only indian but also the entire
 world's radio stations in it. It also includes recording facility in
 mp3 format with good quality. All the buttons are fully accessible
 with talkback. You can make favorite station list also. You can
 remotely control this application while travelling by car through
 your car stereo or at your home through your home theatre with latest 
 bluetooth support.
 
 
 
 On 1/23/2024 8:06 PM, Omkar Pawaskar wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone. Hope you all are doing well. I need a suggestion about
> the best Android app for radio listening. Actually I like very much
> to listen the radio stations of India like radio mirchi 98.3 FM,
> 92.7 Big FM and many more. But I am not getting the accessible
> perfect and genuine app for this in the Google Play Store. So please
> suggest me some good Android applications to listen these radio stations. 
> Thanks and regards.
> Omkar Pawaskar.
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Re: [AI] IOS 17 accessibility

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Ya that’s a known bug and only the future update can fixSent from my iPhoneOn 23-Sep-2023, at 3:54 AM, sagar Akash  wrote:Kindly update ios17.01On Fri, 22 Sept, 2023, 6:39 pm Avichal Bhatnagar, <coolavic...@gmail.com> wrote:The problem which I am facing in my iPhone 12 after upgrading to IOS
17 is the inability of voiceover to announce the time after pressing
the power key. It only says how many notifications are there.

On 9/22/23, Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam <vadhimoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also they have just release a patch 17.0.1. Please update and see if
> the bug fix is there.
>
> On 22/09/2023, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan <vadhimoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi everyone, I understand that some of us are facing this issue with the
>> new
>> iOS iOS. It is a bug but I think there is a work around that you can try
>> basically go to settings then accessibility voice over the last option is
>> to
>> increase the double touch screen response by default. It is set as 25.
>> You
>> can increase it to 35 or something 35 or 45 which ever works for you. I
>> think it temporarily solve the problem Until they find a permanent fix.
>> This
>> will definitely work. Thank you.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 22-Sep-2023, at 7:05 AM, B. R. Nautial <brnaut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I also upgraded IOS 17.00 on my i phone 13 & its working fine. if you
>>> already upgraded IOS of your mobile, then, no question of running Beta
>>> version at all. Its your confusion only. I already installed Beta
>>> version
>>> of 17.00 on my mobile & its also showing Beta VErsion if you turn Beta
>>> version. its only an icon on your mobile inside the Update software
>>> obtion, so you need not to worry at all. You are using final version of
>>> IOS 17.00 on your mobile. Please note, in future, no need to download
>>> Beta
>>> version on your mobile. its only for developers.
>>> If you find problem on your mobile, you can rest your IOS settings
>>> again.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Praveen Guru"
>>> <praveen.g...@gmail.com>
>>> To: "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 September, 2023 09:13 PM
>>> Subject: [AI] IOS 17 accessibility
>>>
>>>
>>>> hi all, i upgraded my iPhone 12 to IOS 17 and the touch response is
>>>> not working well, i.e. it is very hard to dubble tap and go into
>>>> applications. i researched online and it seams it is still in beta
>>>> version! any solution will be helpful if any one has tried... Kind
>>>> regards
>>>>
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Re: [AI] IOS 17 accessibility

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Hi everyone, I understand that some of us are facing this issue with the new 
iOS iOS. It is a bug but I think there is a work around that you can try 
basically go to settings then accessibility voice over the last option is to 
increase the double touch screen response by default. It is set as 25. You can 
increase it to 35 or something 35 or 45 which ever works for you. I think it 
temporarily solve the problem Until they find a permanent fix. This will 
definitely work. Thank you. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On 22-Sep-2023, at 7:05 AM, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
> 
> I also upgraded IOS 17.00 on my i phone 13 & its working fine. if you 
> already upgraded IOS of your mobile, then, no question of running Beta 
> version at all. Its your confusion only. I already installed Beta version of 
> 17.00 on my mobile & its also showing Beta VErsion if you turn Beta version. 
> its only an icon on your mobile inside the Update software obtion, so you 
> need not to worry at all. You are using final version of IOS 17.00 on your 
> mobile. Please note, in future, no need to download Beta version on your 
> mobile. its only for developers.
> If you find problem on your mobile, you can rest your IOS settings again.
> - Original Message - From: "Praveen Guru" 
> To: "accessindia" 
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 September, 2023 09:13 PM
> Subject: [AI] IOS 17 accessibility
> 
> 
>> hi all, i upgraded my iPhone 12 to IOS 17 and the touch response is
>> not working well, i.e. it is very hard to dubble tap and go into
>> applications. i researched online and it seams it is still in beta
>> version! any solution will be helpful if any one has tried... Kind
>> regards
>> 
>> --
>> Praveen
>> 
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Re: [AI] COVID-19: Helpline for blind and visually impaired in bangalore

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Dear All
Samarthanam Trust for the Disabled is providing basic groceries and mask kit 
for people with disabilities residing in Bangalore. So those who are in need of 
this facility please contact the below numbers:
Mr. Naveen- 9449864786
Mr. Sunil- 9449864691
Mr. Raghavendra- 9483237158
They will facilitate the materials to reach at your doorstep. Please mention 
your referer while collecting.

Note: Please share this message with the poorest of poor disabled persons.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11-Apr-2020, at 10:55 PM, writetochaitali .  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi ,
> There was one article recently on newzhook regarding some NGOs working in
> this space.
> Sharing the link here please check it out for the numbers for Bengaluru
> https://newzhook.com/story/helpline-numbers-for-disabled-during-covid-19/
> 
> Chaitali
> 
>> On Sat, 11 Apr 2020, 22:46 SARAVANAN K,  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Friends,
>> 
>> Our nation is totally worried about the panda mic of covid-19.
>> We are now situated in locked down position.
>> Most of VI persons & their families are unable to get the essential
>> items like groceries, mask kit, sanitizes, medicine, hand wash,
>> vegetables, milk products, etc for their daily purpose. Is there any
>> NGO or helping hands for VI persons in bangalore for  helping VI
>> persons for providing these items in this situation. There is no
>> proper guidance for VI persons to tackle these situation. If anybody
>> is having any  valuable information then furnish those information in
>> detail.
>> It will be helpful for most of us. Timely help is appreciable.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Saravanan.K
>> +91 9916512402
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Re: [AI] capture on SBI net banking

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You can also email them at: customerc...@sbi.co.in

On 14/08/2019, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan  wrote:
> You can visit the following site to register your complains:
> https://cms.onlinesbi.com/CMS/ and please note that you need sighted
> assistance since this site also uses capture code. But let us flood
> them with complains to let them know that they will loose customers if
> this is not fixed. Or if someone has a better way of contacting them,
> then please let us know. Thank you.
>
> On 14/08/2019, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> Yes, SBI has reintroduced capcha again. Please give e-mail address of
>> the concerned person whom we can contact to take back this
>> exclusionary decision. Do start sharing your concerns about capcha on
>> SBI twitter handle also.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/14/19, Jeegar Pithwa  wrote:
>>> Yes it seems that it has been again reintroduce, last time when it first
>>> introduced v we send an email but not remembering exact ID. On corporate
>>> site I am not finding email ID which was there earlier
>>>
>>> On 14 August 2019 12:35:09 pm Saravanan  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Friends,
>>>>
>>>> They have introduced capture in SBI net banking.
>>>> How to resolve it.
>>>> Waiting for your valuable response.
>>>> How to overcome this situation.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Saravanan.K
>>>> +91 9916512402
>>>>
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Re: [AI] capture on SBI net banking

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

You can visit the following site to register your complains:
https://cms.onlinesbi.com/CMS/ and please note that you need sighted
assistance since this site also uses capture code. But let us flood
them with complains to let them know that they will loose customers if
this is not fixed. Or if someone has a better way of contacting them,
then please let us know. Thank you.

On 14/08/2019, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Yes, SBI has reintroduced capcha again. Please give e-mail address of
> the concerned person whom we can contact to take back this
> exclusionary decision. Do start sharing your concerns about capcha on
> SBI twitter handle also.
>
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> On 8/14/19, Jeegar Pithwa  wrote:
>> Yes it seems that it has been again reintroduce, last time when it first
>> introduced v we send an email but not remembering exact ID. On corporate
>> site I am not finding email ID which was there earlier
>>
>> On 14 August 2019 12:35:09 pm Saravanan  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Friends,
>>>
>>> They have introduced capture in SBI net banking.
>>> How to resolve it.
>>> Waiting for your valuable response.
>>> How to overcome this situation.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Saravanan.K
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[AI] Need information on Office 365 - cloud

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hey folks,
posting here after a very long time. Any one here making use of Office
365 cloud application? If so, then could you share your experience in
terms of accessibility? My company Cisco is going to move entirely out
of the stand alone Microsoft office and moving to the cloud based
office 365. Your input will help me raise accessibility concerns with
the associated team in my institution.

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[AI] Fwd: an inclusive trip to Hampi

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Vetrivel Murugan Adhimoolam 
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 12:09:07 +0530
Subject: an inclusive trip to Hampi
To: vadhimoo...@gmail.com

Greetings from  Inditrippers! Inditrippers is organising an inclusive
trip to Hampi in association with Smileys organisation on 22nd and
23rd of September. Inditrippers is a tours and travel initiative which
is driven by Persons with Vision Impairment. Bring along all  your
friends and family to experience the “inclusive trip”. It will be a
trip which is mind-freshing ,breathtaking, engaging, exploring,
bon-firing and more importantly making more friends and creating more
memories. If you are interested, Kindly fill the google form at
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdSDTCmQdvib2UHGP4nJl5vbF2DEJgXNYmYF8e4ggryV25lHQ/viewform?usp=sf_link
Any enquiries ping Shailesh at 8123110106. Or, call at 8073709969
*Let's get together to Explore the Unexplored*. Those who filled
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Re: [AI] Difficulty in using Google Maps

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It may also depend up on the area. Say for example, in Bangalore, it
works well since users regularly update map and even turning is mostly
announced correctly. When I get a new cab driver at Cisco, Google map
becomes very handy and I don't see too much of difference in terms of
ut's usage in my android as well as IPhone. I use it in both depending
up on the availability of power.

On 05/09/2018, Srinivasu Chakravarthula  wrote:
> I have to double check but as far as I remember, on Android, it says aloud
> for specific turns in addition to 200 meters. I mean speak loud function
> in-built with maps and not Talk back. I can check this evening (if I take a
> car) or tomorrow and report back.
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> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:58 AM turab chimthanawala 
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>> Ok thanks. So are the prompts better in another mode from the VI
>> person's perspective.
>> Best
>> Turab
>>
>>
>> On 9/5/18, shankar shan  wrote:
>> > as for my observations, when the user reache's the turn, visually the
>> > arrow mark will be shown, but, the screen reader may not report the
>> > same. if you driving the car on your own, then you have to observe the
>> > arrow rather than the screen reader.
>> > and, for your information, the voice prompts are designed  only from
>> > the driver prospective.
>> > it just alerts the drivers what to do next.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 9/5/18, Turabh  wrote:
>> >> Hi Shankar,
>> >> Thanks for your revert.
>> >> I use it while in my car and hence select the driving mode . So what’s
>> the
>> >> workaround?
>> >> Best
>> >> Turab
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>> On 05-Sep-2018, at 9:39 AM, shankar shan 
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi there,
>> >>> yes, you are correct!the map does not instruct you with the specific
>> >>> turn..
>> >>> it all depends upon your traveling speed.
>> >>> and also, depends on the mode which you selected. example, walking,
>> >>> driving, so on.
>> >>> this is an usability issue.
>> >>>
>>  On 9/5/18, turab chimthanawala  wrote:
>>  Hi all,
>>  Of late I have difficulty in using Google Maps. I mean while
>>  travelling, google maps says turn left after 200m. But it fails to
>>  indicate at the specific turn. I am using G Maps on an iPhone updated
>>  to the latest version.
>>  Please guide.
>>  Thanking you
>>  Best
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Re: [AI] Does apple maps work nicely in India?

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi, Not only for Android, but even for IPhone in India, Google Maps is
the best navigational software we have from the points of view of VI.
As for as using the program is concern, you don't really need
instruction manual. Just explore around and you'll find options
yourself.

Best,

Vetri.

On 09/08/2018, Srinivasu Chakravarthula  wrote:
> Have you tried looking up on AppleVis.com? Below is from 2013; but still
> may relevant.
>
> https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ios-app-discussion/using-google-maps-ios-6-voiceover
>
>
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>
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Rishi Kewalramani <
> rishi.kewalram...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi friends,
>> Thanks for your replies.
>> Is there a  video or audio podcast tutorial on using Google maps with
>> voice
>> over on an iPhone?
>> Thanks, Rishi
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Ketan Kothari
>> Sent: 08 August 2018 11:21 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Does apple maps work nicely in India?
>>
>> Apple maps  are not supported  for turn by turn directions in India and
>> they
>> don't seem to be doing that any time soon.  Gmaps  are the best that we
>> have.
>>
>> Ketan
>>
>> On 8/7/18, Rishi Kewalramani  wrote:
>> > Hi friends,
>> > Does the Apple maps  work good in India?
>> > Because when I search for some directions to some famous landmarks,
>> > apple's maps says, "No directions found from this location."
>> >  I have tried this from different locations in Bangalore but in vain.
>> > So do I have to change some setting or Apple maps are not good enough
>> > in India?
>> >
>> > If so, can I make Google maps as  my default maps app in my iPhone?
>> >
>> > And finally, is there any hadley or apple vis podcast tutorial
>> > teaching us on how to use the Google maps app on an iPhone with voice
>> over?
>> >
>> > Many thanks in advance,
>> > Rishi
>> >
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[AI] Blind Woman Sues California Hospital for Employment Discrimination

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Blind Woman Sues California Hospital for Employment Discrimination
 National Federation of the Blind Assisting in Litigation

 San Francisco, California (July 26, 2018): Alina Sorling worked for
ten years as a food service technician at Mercy Medical Center in
Redding, California until she went blind from an illness. After
successful rehabilitation in which she learned to manage her home and
perform the duties of her job as a blind person, she sought reasonable
accommodations from her employer to return to work. Instead, she was
fired.

 The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and Ms. Sorling
have filed suit in the federal District Court for the Northern
District of California, alleging that Dignity Health, the parent
company of Mercy Medical Center, unlawfully discriminated against Ms.
Sorling, violating the Americans with Disabilities Act and other
federal and state laws. The National Federation of the Blind, the
nation's leading advocate for the equal employment of blind people, is
aiding in the litigation.

 Ms. Sorling's lawsuit alleges that she was fired because she did not
meet a new vision requirement that Dignity Health claims applies to
its food service technicians. Yet, the suit alleges, Ms. Sorling's
vision was never tested in all the time she worked for the hospital,
nor has such a vision requirement been applied to other food service
technicians there.

 "Today marks the twenty-eighth anniversary of the signing of the
Americans with Disabilities Act," said Mark Riccobono, President of
the National Federation of the Blind. "Yet we still find employers
discriminating against the blind, basing their decisions on fears
rather than on facts. Many blind people work in food service jobs
every day, using the kinds of reasonable accommodations that Dignity
Health did not even consider before firing an employee with ten years
of service. Alina Sorling's capabilities have not changed; only her
vision has. We will fight for her rights, her dignity, and her ability
to do the work she is qualified to do and live the life she wants."

 "My termination has been a severe blow to me, not only financially
but also emotionally," said Alina Sorling. "I have worked hard to be
an asset to my employer. It is unfortunate that my former employer
could not see the value that I brought to my work."

 Ms. Sorling is represented by Timothy Elder of the TRE Legal Practice
of Freemont, CA, and Scott C. Labarre of LaBarre Law offices of
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[AI] Tech Makes Life Easier for Disabled Travelers, Until They Board.

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Tech Makes Life Easier for Disabled Travelers, Until They Board.
By JOSHUA BROCKMAN. Technology is fast changing how people with
disabilities get to and then navigate airports and train and bus
stations. But technology can go only so far: Its advantages usually
stop at the door of the plane, train or bus.

Consider the experience of Michael May, who is blind and typically
flies at least once a week. Mr. May, the executive director of
Envision's BVI Workforce Innovation Center, which provides employment
training for the blind and visually impaired in Wichita, Kan., says he
uses airline apps at home to secure his boarding pass, takes Uber to
the airport and gets dropped off as close as possible to the
Transportation Security Administration's PreCheck. (He's also enrolled
in the Clear program to speed his way through airport security.)

But then he hits what he calls a void -- he has to ask someone how to
get to the security line. And in frenzied airports, he doesn't always
get a response.

'I'm looking forward to having indoor navigation to the point where I
can at least get to PreCheck,' he said.

Mr. May has a cane and Jonnie, his golden retriever guide dog. He also
draws on screen-reader software and smartphone apps. He uses the free
app Be My Eyes, which relies on a network of 1.2 million volunteers to
provide directions through the airport via live video. In addition, he
uses Aira, a monthly subscription app that uses a smartphone camera or
a pair of glasses outfitted with a camera to live-stream video to an
agent, who then provides navigational instructions. Ten airports,
including ones in Seattle, Boston, Houston, Memphis and Minneapolis,
currently offer zones where blind and visually impaired travelers can
download the Aira app and use the service without charge. (Several
more airports are expected to offer complimentary service this
summer.)

David Wilson, the director of innovation at the Sea-Tac Airport, says
blind travelers no longer have to rely on wheelchair attendants. 'With
Aira, they can get up and go to a restroom, go to a concession,' he
said. 'It's independence.

Still, the Americans With Disabilities Act, which became law in 1990,
applies to airports and ground transportation -- trains, buses and
subways. But airline cabins are governed by the Air Carrier Access
Act, which was enacted in 1986 and does not carry as many
accessibility requirements. If, for example, someone uses a motorized
wheelchair, it must be checked at the end of the jetway. Wheelchair
assistants, often contractors, help the passenger transfer to a
wheelchair that can fit down the narrow aisles and then to their seat
(a foldable aisle wheelchair is also kept on board).

'The most accessible feature on an airplane is the fact that the arm
rest lifts up to get in and out of the seat, and that's about it,'
said Lee Page, a quadriplegic who uses a wheelchair full time and
serves as the senior advocacy director for Paralyzed Veterans of
America.

A spokesman for Delta Air Lines, Anthony Black, said its gate agents
must complete a 'comprehensive accessibility curriculum' for travelers
with disabilities that includes training on everything from handling
service animals to transfer assistance onto a plane. A spokesman for
United Airlines, Charles Hobart, said the carrier had a 24-hour
accessibility desk and also trained all of the employees who work
directly with customers on how to assist passengers with disabilities.
Southwest Airlines said all of its customer representatives were
trained to help customers with disabilities, and it maintained a video
relay and a Teletypewriter number for deaf travelers.

But disabled travelers, including Teresa Blankmeyer Burke, an
associate professor of philosophy at Gallaudet University, who is
deaf, say airlines could improve their training. She said she would
like airlines to do a better job of reassuring deaf and
hard-of-hearing travelers that 'our presence has been noted and that
we will not be overlooked.

Sheryl Stroup, a safety expert for the Association of Flight
Attendants-CWA, said flight attendants were responsible for
communicating directly with disabled passengers to make sure their
needs are met. 'You need to go ask them, 'How can I best assist you?
she said.

Ms. Blankmeyer Burke says she wears a brightly colored piece of
clothing or a distinctive hat so that she's readily identifiable and
introduces herself to the ticketing crew at the airport, train station
or bus terminal with a note.

'I print out a script that tells the flight attendants a little bit
about my communication needs and abilities, where I am sitting, and
also notes my beverage preferences and my destination,' she said in an
email. 'In this document, I explicitly state that I want important
announcements written and I ask who will be responsible for
communicating with me in case of emergency.

Ms. Blankmeyer Burke says she carries a small notebook or types
inquiries on her smartphone and travels with a flash

Re: [AI] scribe guidelines

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

In my view there should be just some minimum eligibility to the
scribe. The scribe being 1 level below the candidate may not work in
certain situations. For example, the minimum qualification to write
UPSC is an undergrad degree. So  If someone appears for his/her exam
immediately after his undergrad, then the scribe will be expected to
be 1 level below undergrad degree which is literally the higher
secondary level. So considering this, UPSC or in fact the entire
government agency should fix a minimum qualification to be a scribe.

On 21/06/2018, Krishna Bodawala  wrote:
> on this issue i to am facing a problem regarding SBI PO Prilim Exam ?
> Can any1 tell me guide lines For a scribe in a SBI PO Prilim Exam ?
>
> On 6/19/18, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
>>
>>
>> The problem is manifold-
>> 1. These guidelines are not restricted to UPSE. We have fought so hard to
>> ensure that scribes will be brought by the candidates and not by the
>> Examining Authority in the first place. Why has the sub-committee made us
>> surrender? Tomorrows fight.
>>  -Original Message-
>>
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>> Sent: 19 June 2018 15:22
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] scribe guidelines
>>
>> As I understand, both the recommendation from the sub-committee and the
>> response from UPSC are stated here for our understanding. UPSC's claim to
>> be
>> lacking resources in providing alternate writing mode for differently
>> abled
>> is simply unbelievable and they can always approach the Central gov for
>> additional resources. So in my view, UPSC will not even think about
>> implementing these points without any directive from the court. It's the
>> time that we make them realize that simple zoom text question papers are
>> hardly enough in fulfilling special needs of diversed population of the
>> differently abled candidates. Vetri.
>>
>> On 19/06/2018, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>>> What I understand is that:
>>> 1. one step junior norm is going to be brought in again.
>>> 2. Primarily examination bodies will provide the writer, if they
>>> cannot, candidates will bring their own junior scribe.
>>>
>>> First is okay, as no percentage etc. is mentioned.
>>> We should clearly say second point is not acceptable.
>>> Discretion should be with candidate about choice of scribe, whether
>>> own or needs to be provided.
>>> Besides, one step junior should be clarified to mean one year junior
>>> and not one degree or course junior.
>>>
>>> Creation of specialized centers for computerized exam is unjustified.
>>> Installation of assistive technology and accessibility should be
>>> mandated wherever exam is online.
>>>
>>>
>>> सादर / With thanks & Regards
>>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
>>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
>>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
>>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur
>>>
>>> 0712 2806846
>>>
>>> President
>>> VIBEWA
>>> Co-Moderator
>>> VIB-India
>>>
>>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
>>> laughter.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
>>> Sent: 19 June 2018 11:42
>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled.'
>>> Subject: [AI] scribe guidelines
>>>
>>> Has anyone seen the amount of trouble we are going to be in?
>>>
>>> K
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Re: [AI] scribe guidelines

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

As I understand, both the recommendation from the sub-committee and
the response from UPSC are stated here for our understanding. UPSC's
claim to be lacking resources in providing alternate writing mode for
differently abled is simply unbelievable and they can always approach
the Central gov for additional resources. So in my view, UPSC will not
even think about implementing these points without any directive from
the court. It's the time that we make them realize that simple zoom
text question papers are hardly enough in fulfilling special needs of
diversed population of the differently abled candidates. Vetri.

On 19/06/2018, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> What I understand is that:
> 1. one step junior norm is going to be brought in again.
> 2. Primarily examination bodies will provide the writer, if they cannot,
> candidates will bring their own junior scribe.
>
> First is okay, as no percentage etc. is mentioned.
> We should clearly say second point is not acceptable.
> Discretion should be with candidate about choice of scribe, whether own or
> needs to be provided.
> Besides, one step junior should be clarified to mean one year junior and not
> one degree or course junior.
>
> Creation of specialized centers for computerized exam is unjustified.
> Installation of assistive technology and accessibility should be mandated
> wherever exam is online.
>
>
> सादर / With thanks & Regards
> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
> नागपुर Nagpur
>
> 0712 2806846
>
> President
> VIBEWA
> Co-Moderator
> VIB-India
>
> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
> laughter.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Kanchan Pamnani
> Sent: 19 June 2018 11:42
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: [AI] scribe guidelines
>
> Has anyone seen the amount of trouble we are going to be in?
>
> K
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> hrllo sir.good afternoon sir. i need help regarding hr persons for my
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Re: [AI] state bank internet banking comes up with captcha

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

As an alternative, Please use the mobile link to access most of their
banking services. The link is:

https://m.onlinesbi.com/mretail/login.htm

Please note that the link has some limitations though. Say for
example, things like your profile pages etc still have to be accessed
on the full site only, but this is good to perform some basic banking
activities.

In a nut shell, the glass is at least haf full.

Hope this helps.

Vetri.

On 17/12/2015, Mahendra Galani  wrote:
> i feel OTP is best way.
> At 12:00 PM 12/17/2015 +0530, you wrote:
>>hey folks, with at most  disapointment  i'd like to share instead of
>> things
>>making more accessible for visually impaired, banks are making even more
>>difficult for us. from today, state bank of india and all of its
>> associates
>>internet banking portal requireds a captcha to be entered while login. to
>>my surprise, even jaws OCR is not able to recognize the captcha.
>>
>>at the same time,  i do consider the fact its been done to get more
>>security for the customers and to get rid of fraudsters. however, no
>>provisions have been made for visually impaireds. no audio captcha is
>>there, no login OTP is there the way IRCTC has implimented.
>>
>>so what should be done to  make it accessible for us
>>
>>Amit Pahuja
>>9650519193
>>State Bank of Travancore
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Re: [AI] Some documentation questions

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hello Srinivasu,

Thanks for clearing the air. I shall be joining Cisco Bangalore on the
27th of April as the project coordinator. Their background check and
verification of documents are outsourced to another company known as
Edeco and their instruction was not clear on that. Thanks again.

Vetri.

On 25/03/2015, li...@srinivasu.org  wrote:
> In general company would provide all required forms. Ask HR. BTW, congrats.
>
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
> Sent from my iPhone 5C
>
>> On 25-Mar-2015, at 15:41, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, I am still trying to get used to the Indian documentation
>> process.
>>
>> As the process of Joining a company, I have been asked to submit ESI
>> declaration - Form 1, PF nomination - Form
>> 2 and Gratuity Nomination - Form F. My question is: Are they company
>> specific or can those forms be downloaded from any specific website?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Vetri.
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[AI] Some documentation questions

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi all, I am still trying to get used to the Indian documentation process.

As the process of Joining a company, I have been asked to submit ESI
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Re: [AI] in need of IGNOU M.A. history first and second year books.

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi,

You can visit IGNO web page and click the link that says E-Jeyankosh
or something similar to that. You have to register yourself and then
you can download MA matterials for history or any other subject
offered at the Univ.

Best,

Vetri.

On 09/03/2015, anil reddy  wrote:
> hi sir/madam,
> i am anil reddy from hyderabad.
> as mentioned in the subject, i am in need of IGNOU M.A. history
> material of both first and second year.
> so if anyone of you have the same please send me on my mail ID.
>
>
> --
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Re: [AI] Circular needed regarding income tax limit for the differently abled

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Thanks both for sharing your documents.

Vetri.

On 08/03/2015, Vamshi. G  wrote:
> Yes, exemption under section 80U is considered while calculating TDS.
>
> Download the circular from
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2619069/Rebate%20under%20article%2080U.pdf
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> This is the circular relevant for the financial year 2014-15.
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>> Is this exemption of 125000 considered by the employer while calculating
>> TDS?
>> On 8 Mar 2015 05:02, "SRUJANA AKELLA"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> The basic exemption limit and slab rates do not change.
>>> but we get 1lakh 25thousand as additional exemption for severe
>>> disability.
>>> previously it was 10 and in the current budget, it got changed to
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[AI] Circular needed regarding income tax limit for the differently abled

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi all,

How are you doing? As my subject line says, I need to show the
circular to my employer as they are not aware of the income tax
exemption up to certain level for us.

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Re: [AI] expert advice needed in availing railway consession.

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

The old form can still be used until it expires, However absents of
doctor's name is an appropriate reason for rejection. So I am afraid
that you have to get a new form.

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> my railway consession was issued in 2011 and it is still valid.
> i did not get consession on Rajdani express i.e. 25 percent due to
> abscent of the doctor's name and registeration number.
> this new norm was recently updated by the railways of the doctors name
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> if any circular or guideline pls furnish to my personal id mentioned
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Re: [AI] Regarding Kannada Typing software for P C

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi, Why don't you familiarize with the default kanada typing keyboard
which comes with windows OS. For any supported regional language for
that matter, I strongly suggest people to use the default input since
one can actually use it in any windows machine and you may not
necessarily have any special typing software installed in browsing
centers for example.

Vetri.

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Re: [AI] A request: this is very urgent

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

It's at Calicut.

Vetri.

On 23/01/2015, Renuka Warriar Edakkunni  wrote:
> In Kerala, where is the center of examination?
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> On 1/23/15, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan  wrote:
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[AI] A request: this is very urgent

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi all,

a student from Chennai is going to write a banking exam this coming
Sunday Jan 25th in Kerala and he is not able to find a scribe as of
now. So if you know of anyone or agency in Kerala that can help him
out in this matter, then kindly get in touch with me ASAP at my cel
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Re: [AI] how to read password protected pdf files

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi,

If you are using K1000, then you can read such password protected
files. After opening the file by using the given password, click
"print" and select KESI Virtual printer as the printer source. Wait
for the file to be processed through k1000. Note that the recognition
quality may be slightly bad, but something is better than nothing.

Best,

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On 10/01/2015, SKYLINER  wrote:
> Similar bills I receive from airtel.  However, when I opt for 'read from
> left to right' the pdf file opens which JAWS reads whereas the same file
> opened on first option of 'recommended document' opens in image form
> unreadable by JAWS after entering the password.
>
>
>
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>
> On Fri, 09 Jan 2015 03:01:20 +0530 D H  wrote
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>>hey Manish,
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> i am scared that there is no other way to read PDF file of vodafone
>
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>
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>> I received my Vodafone bill in password protected pdf file. After
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>
>
>
>> to read it.
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Re: [AI] visit to tirupathy thirumula

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Just carry your disability ID card with you and a photo copy of it.
Get in touch with the Thevastan people associated with room booking
and they will help you out. Technically you pay a dipt and get it back
while checking out. Although they may expect a bit of bribe to give
you a comfortable room. As for as Dharshan is concerned, there is a
separate counter for disabled and there are specific times. In
mornings, the counter is opened until 9 or 10 I am not sure, but I
always reach there before 9:00 AM. There's an evening timing which
someone else can enlighten you.

Vetri.

On 10/12/2014, Saravanan.K  wrote:
> Dear Friends,
> I am Saravanan from Bangalore.
> I hope you are all fine in gods grace.
> I am planning to go to worship tirupathy thirumula devasthana.
> I am inneed of appropriate  guidance of availing rooms and darishan
> there.Can any of our friends support me in providing the procedures in
> availing rooms there. And I also want to know is there any special
> formalities  in getting rooms and darishan queue schdule for VI persons in
> thirumula. Is there any other places to visit there.
>
> Thanks
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Re: [AI] Registry editing disabled!

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Are you using your computer as a standard user rather than being an
administrator? If so, there must be another administrative account
which may or may not be with password. On the directory c:\windows,
try single clicking the file regedit.exe and double click the item
that says: "run as administrator". If prompted for an administrative
password, then enter it and see if you are able to open the file.

Vetri.

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> am getting a msg that Regsvr.exe is missing -- pls suggest to overcome
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Re: [AI] unable to start MS outlook 2007!

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Hello Subramani,

Try clicking the file OUTLOOK.EXE which can be found under C:\Program
Files\Microsoft Office\Office14 or something similar path. It is
certainly under program files and the directory may be slightly
different in 2007. If clicking that does not work, then try reparing
the office rather than reinstalling it. That way you may not loose
your email configuration and other settings.

Vetri.

On 24/11/2014, P. Subramani  wrote:
> I am unable to start ms outlook, using win XP sp3 from desktop, startmenu
> and all programs. Kindly suggest to overcome this. Is reinstallation the
> only option? Thanks and regards, P. Subramani
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[AI] Anyone on the list working in Infosys?

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi everyone,

If you or someone known to you are working with infosys or Google
India, then could you kindly get back to me or provide me his/her
contact info at my personal e-mail:

avm...@gmail.com ?

Would really be greatful.

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Re: [AI] Require scribes

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi,

Get in touch with M.r Vamchi, who may be able to put you in touch with
someone in that area and if my memory is right, he belongs to
Thirupati. He writes here regularly and henceforth it shouldn't be
difficult to find his e-mail address.

Best,

Vetri.

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> Hi friends,
>
>  Three of my friends are appearing for  IBPS PO exam in Thirupati
> on November 30, December first week. They are facing difficulty in
> finding scribes. If you have any information regarding scribes please
> send to this mail ID:
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> ysnagam...@gmail.com
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Re: [AI] Gmail questions

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Besides that checkbox, you should also check the "skip inbox".
Otherwise the message will appear both on inbox and the associated
label.

Vetri.

On 07/11/2014, Bhavya shah  wrote:
> Hi,
> You are on the right check box.
> Though it says 20 conversations, it means all old conversations, check
> that box, and see the results yourself, it does work.
>
>
> On 11/7/14, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>> DDearBhavya,
>>
>> Actually, in HTML view, you only get the checkbox saying apply this to 20
>> mails.  I have atleast 1000 mails which are archived.
>>
>> Help?
>>
>> Ketan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bhavya shah
>> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 9:30 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Gmail questions
>>
>> Yes, answering your second question.
>> After filling in all the criteria, there will be a 'Apply to x
>> conversations below' check box, which you need to check, only then
>> will older mails be filtered as well.
>>
>> On 11/7/14, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>>> Vetri,
>>>
>>> Actually, I know how to create filters; the question I asked is: How do
>>> I
>>> apply filter to older mails?  That is not clear in HTML view and
>>> standard
>>> view is a nightmare with access technology.
>>>
>>> Please do help.  Thank you for first one.
>>>
>>> Ketan
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
>>> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 7:44 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerningthe disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Gmail questions
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As for as your first question is concerned, find your answer by
>>> visiting:
>>>
>>> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6576?hl=en
>>>
>>> And your second question: On the Gmail inbox, click the link: "create
>>> filter". There you can specify criteria and they are self explonatory.
>>>
>>> Vetri.
>>>
>>> On 07/11/2014, Ketan Kothari  wrote:
>>>> Hi friends,
>>>>
>>>> I have a couple of gmail questions:
>>>>
>>>> Firstly, how can I redownload the messages that have been archived
>>>> after
>>>> reformatting?  I wish to download messages with a particular
>>>> subjectline
>>>> only.
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, how do I apply filters to messages that have already arrived
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>> my
>>>> gmail account?  I am sure there is a way but don't know how to do it;
>>>> please
>>>> do help.
>>>>
>>>> With best wishes,
>>>>
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Re: [AI] Gmail questions

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi,

As for as your first question is concerned, find your answer by visiting:

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6576?hl=en

And your second question: On the Gmail inbox, click the link: "create
filter". There you can specify criteria and they are self explonatory.

Vetri.

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> I have a couple of gmail questions:
>
> Firstly, how can I redownload the messages that have been archived after
> reformatting?  I wish to download messages with a particular subjectline
> only.
>
> Secondly, how do I apply filters to messages that have already arrived in my
> gmail account?  I am sure there is a way but don't know how to do it; please
> do help.
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> With best wishes,
>
> Ketan
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[AI] IT or any other MMC

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi all,

Anyone working in the IT sector or similar multi national consultancy
could get in touch with me on my personal e-mail

avm...@gmail.com ?

I need some suggestions.

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Re: [AI] Difficulty in reading Frontline Magazine

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

A better solution may be to disable add-ons and extentions while
reading Frontline. To do so, you just open the sight in in-private
browser mode. To activate in-private mode, press control+shift+P
inside the browser and a new window will open. Type the frontline
address on the address bar and try reading it. Note that it will not
make any change to your default settings, but will simply allow you to
access various pages without any add-on.

Vetri.

On 26/10/2014, suryanarayana ganta  wrote:
> Dear sir,
> no repeatation of topic is there. when a person has doubt, simply he
> writes on the list. what is the wrong in it? just for clarification. a
> nice discussion or subject has taken place. try to show something
> better.
>
> On 10/25/14, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> Dear Frontline magazine readers
>>
>> Owing to inaccessible website of the Frontline, I am not able to read
>> the magazine of late. Are you also facing the same problem? do suggest
>> what is the way out. Thank you.
>> --
>> Avinash Shahi
>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
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[AI] Admision opened for computer training at Mitra Jyothi

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

See the forwarded message below. If you know someone who does not have
computer knowledge and willing to spend three months at Bangalore,
then please spread the word.

Vetri.

Forwarded message --
 From: tony thomas 
  Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 17:04:56 +0530
  Subject: Admissions open for Computer Training Program at Mitra Jyothi
  To: Surbhi Lohia 

  Career Centric Computer Training; Basic Computer Training for Visually
  Impaired by Mitra Jyothi

  This is an initiative from Mitra Jyothi team towards giving quality
  computer training for visually impaired people. Main goal of this
  course is to increase the candidate's knowledge on Computer Basics and
  making them efficient in using computers independently. This will
  increase the employment opportunities, betterment of existing job, and
  for higher studies.

  Contents
 *Keyboard orientation and Typing practice with software "Talking Typer"

 *Basics of Software, Hardware and Network

 *Introduction to Assistive technologies for visually impaired.

 *Basic concepts such as desktop, taskbar, menus, Editing,
  Dialog box, File/Folder management etc...

 *Screen readers, NVDA/JAWS settings and help

 *MS Word, MS Excel, MS PowerPoint and MS Outlook

 *Scanning, printing, CD burning etc...

 *Internet- Email, online chat, internet calling, social
  networking, reading websites, online file transfer etc...

 *Introduction to reading accessible books in DAISY format

  Material Used:

  1. Computers with
  a. Windows7 operating system and
  b. Office 2007,
  c. NVDA/JAWS
  d. Talking Typer
  2. Self-paced exercises for each concept.
  3. Test for final assessment.
  4. Designed Curriculum with computer concepts and employment aspects.
  5. Tactile Diagrams

  Mitra Jyothi team provides Communication Skills training
  Objectives:
 *Overcome the Fear of Public Speaking

 *Develop Effective Presentation Skills

 *Acquire Influential Communication Skills

 *Learn Influential Business Writing

 *Give Structure & Meaning to Presentations

 *Design Effective, Audience Captivating Presentations

 *Learn Business Etiquettes

  Course Details:-
 Duration : 3 Months
  Timings : 9:30AM - 5:00PM, Monday-Saturday
  Date : approx. mid-September 2014
  Seats : 15
  Place : Mitra Jyothi






On 05/09/2014, Jyotsna  wrote:
> Hi all,
> Since last one week I am facing trouble in solving captcha through web
> visum. I noticed that daily after solving one captcha when I submit
> second ones it announces that please submit captcha after 30 seconds
> error:33. However I submitted the next captcha even after one hour as
> well as restart the system the same error message appears. Please
> confirm web visum users whether they are are also encountering the
> same trouble in solving multiple captcha on the same day through web
> visum or this trouble is only with my system.
> Reply awaited.
>
> Thanks inadvance,
> Jyotsna.
>
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Re: [AI] A big hello to everyone and an Excel question

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi, Office 2010 pro.

Vetri.

On 23/08/2014, Him Prasad Gautam  wrote:
> hi,
> First make clear which version of MS office are you using.
>
>
> On 8/22/14, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan  wrote:
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Great to write to the list after a very long time! I need help with
>> excel sheat in completing an assignment. Could someone explain step by
>> step instruction in sorting data for a single colunm from a table
>> containing 4 colunms and 12 rows. Second, I would also need help with
>> Pivot Table. Any help is greatly appriciated.
>>
>> Thanks and Regards,
>>
>> Vetri.
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[AI] A big hello to everyone and an Excel question

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hey all,

Great to write to the list after a very long time! I need help with
excel sheat in completing an assignment. Could someone explain step by
step instruction in sorting data for a single colunm from a table
containing 4 colunms and 12 rows. Second, I would also need help with
Pivot Table. Any help is greatly appriciated.

Thanks and Regards,

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[AI] Anyone living in patna on the list?

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi all,

I will be staying in Patna for a week from 14 - 21 of this month. I am
looking for a reasonable lodging facility there. So if anyone of you
are living there at the moment or have prior experience of the city,
then could you kindly get in touch with me off the list?

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On 07/04/2013, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
> Hello  Sushmeetha Ma'am,
> It's great that Voice Vision is organising a workshop on such a pertinent
> issue.
> I must say that it's refreshing to see that you people always organise
> workshops on such unique issues which are not often discussed in the
> blindness community. :)
>
> Would it be possible to get a recording of the most important sessions
> of the   workshop?
> Unfortunately, I don't think I'll be able to attend the workshop in
> person because of exams, but I'd love to listen to the discussions.
>
> Best,
> Rahul
>
>
> On 07/04/2013, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Thank you for your wonderful replies.
>> I do wholeheartedly agree with the view that the way in which you
>> speak is the most important factor.
>> Voice modulation, sense of humour, witty comments, etc  are indeed
>> indispensable components  for delivering  a good  speech.
>>   However, my only point is that being   able to make appropriate
>> gestures  might help you to convert a very good speech into a great
>> speech.
>> So, basically, even though it isn't necessary, it does add some value
>> to your speech, doesn't  it?
>>
>>
>> On 07/04/2013, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>> Rahul, Sense of humour is a key to any professional presentation.
>>> So be crisp, concise and confident.
>>> And don't take unnecessary mental pain in emulating non-verbal jestures.
>>> Stick to your strenghth, rest will emulate you in the days to come.
>>> All the very best.
>>> On 4/7/13, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 I hope you all are having a wonderful weekend. :)
 I would like to get everyone's views on one important subject.
 Whenever I  give a speech or a  presentation, one area in which I
 lack is non-verbal communication.
  This is because I just stand there  and deliver my speech.
 I don't move my hands or anything to put greater emphasis on a point,
 etc like sighted people do.
 Due to this, sometimes, even if you deliver a great speech, it doesn't
 appeal to your listeners  like it should.

 So, what do you all think about this?
 What are the best ways of dealing with this problem?

 Best,
 Rahul

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Re: [AI] A reservation question under quota

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi Rajesh and Harish, Unfortunately it didn't work actually and many
booking clurks here in Tamilnadu are completely unaware of that and
henceforth I had to settle for a WL ticket at the moment. But
something needs to be done and I will explore proper contacts within
railway to take this matter to their attention.

Vetri.

On 27/03/2013, harish  wrote:
> Hi Vetri
>
> Ask the booking clerk  to choose  PH for handicap quota and the system shall
>
> do the rest.
> Harish Kotian
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:41 PM
> Subject: [AI] A reservation question under quota
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am trying to book a ticket from Chennai to Howra for 12th of April
>> and there are seats available under handicapped quota. But for some
>> reason booking officers at the counter seem to be looking at general
>> quota only and thus telling my friend that no ticket is available on
>> that day. Has anyone on the list encountered this before and if so,
>> how to handel it? I would appriciate your quick response since this is
>> farely urgent for me to face an interview at Central University of
>> Bihar on the 15th of next month. Tickets are being fast sold out.
>>
>> Vetri.
>>
>> On 26/03/2013, pankaj kumar  wrote:
>>> Hi friends
>>> I hope every one is doing well
>>> I want to know IBPS OBC VI cut of list
>>> how can I get it?
>>> please assess me
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[AI] A reservation question under quota

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi all,

I am trying to book a ticket from Chennai to Howra for 12th of April
and there are seats available under handicapped quota. But for some
reason booking officers at the counter seem to be looking at general
quota only and thus telling my friend that no ticket is available on
that day. Has anyone on the list encountered this before and if so,
how to handel it? I would appriciate your quick response since this is
farely urgent for me to face an interview at Central University of
Bihar on the 15th of next month. Tickets are being fast sold out.

Vetri.

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> Hi friends
> I hope every one is doing well
> I want to know IBPS OBC VI cut of list
> how can I get it?
> please assess me
>
>
>
> Reagards
> PANKAJ KUMAR
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Re: [AI] How to read Tamil with E- speak ?

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

When you install E-speak, the language field will appear and type TA
TA+M2 and TA-in on the next field. When you hit next, the voice will
be installed. Then change the voice of Sappy 5 to Tamil. Ones you do
that, JAWS will read Tamil web pages/documents. Sometimes JAWS may not
read web page and in this case press insert+V within internet explorer
and then press LAN quickly. Now press space bar to disable "language
detect change.

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On 24/03/2013, JAYAPRAKASH C  wrote:
> Dear friends
>
> Happy Morning !
>
> I have heard from some of our friends we can read Tamil documents as well as
> online Tamil mewspapers using E - speak along with JAWS
>
> Kindly give me step by step  instructions to read tamil documents and
> newspapers  how to configure JAWS AND E -SPEAK  to read Tamil
>
> Thanks
>
> Jaya Prakash
> M + 91 95 43 95 63 43
>
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Re: [AI] about accessibility of gsm data card.

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

I can tell you that reliance is not directly accessible, but you can
work around things by using JAWS/invisible curssers.

Vetri.

On 21/03/2013, Salim qureshi  wrote:
> hi friends, please tell me witch gsm data card is accessible with
> screen readers???wating for your reply..
>
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Re: [AI] regarding literature class

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Additionally, IGNOU matterials for literature are also available
online and they can be downloaded as PDF. By the way, they are
considered as good resource for net/slet exams.

Vetri.

On 10/02/2013, Prashanth  wrote:
>  you can visit the IGNOU channel on YouTube.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "sooraj ms" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:11 PM
> Subject: [AI] regarding literature class
>
>
>> hi friends, is there any way to get vidio or mp3 lectures based on
>> english literature? some of them i found in youtube. is there any
>> websites provide such materials? reply me
>>
>>   with regards sooraj m.s
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Re: [AI] Google scholarship for people with disability in computer studies

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Prashant is correct. When a scholarship is restricted to a particular
nationality, it is very clearly mentioned and since it is not in this
case, one can safely assume that Indians enroled in those countries
are also eligible for those scholarships.

Vetri.

On 28/01/2013, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
> They say that they also sponsor international students who study in US or
> Canada.
> This means any indian can also get this if he/she gets admission in those
> countries.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Siddalingeshwar Ingalagi
> Sent: 28 January 2013 16:11
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Google scholarship for people with disability in computer
> studies
>
> sir this facility for only US And kenada studintes. not for Indian is it?
> am
> I correct.
>
> On 1/28/13, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As the subject line says: Click the link below to learn more and apply
>> online.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Vetri.
>>
>> http://www.limeconnect.com/opportunities/page/google-lime-scholarship-
>> program
>>
>>
>> On 28/01/2013, Rahul Bhatia  wrote:
>>> Hello to all,
>>> i need information regarding to the vacancies in NIVH, actually i
>>> read the add.  from this link
>>> http://ncrplacements4u.blogspot.in/2013/01/nivh-recruitment-2013-nati
>>> onal.html , there is no complete add on this link and the website of
>>> NIVH also not updated, does any one have any information about it so
>>> please guide me or does any one have the hindustan times page 13 of
>>> dated
>>> 18.01.2013 so please send on my personal mail id.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Rahul Bhatia
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AI] Practical challenges associated with the use of the white cane

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi, I would just add few extra points here. In India and particularly
among the low vissioned population, there is a tendency to avoid usage
of cane even when their vision is so low that they may end-up bumping
in to objects. It's the high time to realize that independant mobility
and physical safety is far more important than other's views about
you. Second, if someone considers moving around with a person holding
a cane is undignifying, then you certainly don't need such company and
you are better without him/her. Last but not least, use your cane
effectively and you will find plunty of sighted as well as visually
challenged friends who will admire your confidence.

Vetri.

On 18/01/2013, Amit Bhatt  wrote:
> Dear Rahul,
>
> Below are my answers in respond to your queries raised for the use of white
>
> cane.
>
> 1. I do use cane while walking also in indoor environment if the place is
> new to me, but once I am familiar with the place or I am visiting regularly,
>
> then I do not use white stick. In my College, I was using cane partly since
>
> the area of my college was so wide. I had seldom used Cane in my Office as I
>
> have been well oriented with my company and office premises.
> I don't hesitate to take sighted assistance wherever it is required along
> side the use of Cane. For an instance, if I am on the heavy road to cross, I
>
> ask the people for help. But it depends on the road and traffic. There are
> some smooth roads and crossing in South Delhi which I do cross easily using
>
> cane without any sighted assistance. This mobility technique I had learned
> when I was studding at NAB Delhi.
> 3. I do not think there is any loss of our dignity or respect what so ever
> in use of our assistive tools like white stick. "What people think of us,
> this is none of our business." Its better to make the people aware of white
>
> stick if they are not.
> 4. Generally I don't use cane when I am companied by my friends and family
> members.
> 5. Problem arises when we feel shy in using cane. As I've mentioned above,
> there is no reason of losing dignity, so question of feeling isolated in
> this case does not exist at all. White stick never creates any barrier or
> obstacle in our interaction, it all depends on our mental state of mind.
> Nothing to do with the cane here. It is always good to communicate and
> interact with the people in whatever condition you are.
>
> As Mr. Pranav suggested, Guide Dog cannot be used here in India and I would
>
> recommend to use white stick as it is known as one of the powerful mobility
>
> tool. More we use it, More the public will understand and the possibility of
>
> any so called isolation will be finished.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Amit Bhatt
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rahul Bajaj" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:56 PM
> Subject: [AI] Practical challenges associated with the use of the white
> cane
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I hope you all are having a wonderful January.
>> I am always on the lookout for new mobility options.
>> My preferred means of independent mobility is with the help of  guide
>> dogs.
>> Although I do believe that it is possible to face all challenges
>> relating to the law, public awareness about guide dogs in India, etc,
>> it is equally true that this will require a lot of time and energy.
>> I will surely invest that time and energy at some point in the future,
>> but at this stage I am not in a position to take that step because I
>> have to concentrate on  attaining my professional goals.
>> So, in light of the aforementioned reasons, I  have started thinking
>> about using the white cane more extensively than  I currently do.
>> I   would be really grateful if you could answer the following
>> questions and help me to make an informed decision.
>>
>> 1. Do you use the cane in indoor environments like your college,
>> office, etc or only when you are  outdoors?
>> 2. To what extent do you need sighted assistance in addition to your
>> cane?
>> 3. What, according to you, is the best way to deal with the sympathy
>> and/or loss of dignity that sometimes accompanies the use of the cane?
>> 4. Do you use your cane when you are with your  family/friends, or
>> only when you're alone?
>> 5. Do you think that using the cane sometimes makes you feel isolated
>> and prevents you from interacting with other people like  you would if
>> you were with a sighted guide?
>>
>> Any other tips/views will also  be appreciated.
>> Thanks so much in advance for your assistance. :)
>>
>> Best,
>> Rahul
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Re: [AI] Biometric and Accessibility

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Although the above mentioned percentage of visually challenged people
can be identified with biometric system, it's time consuming and those
with UID or US visa experience can bear testimony to the truth.
Henceforth it's the time for the DU visually challenged staff to fight
for a finger based biometric system.

Vetri.

On 21/11/2012, Mohammed Asif iqbal  wrote:
> Hi there,
> I can leverage on my UID experience and perhaps attempt in answering your
> query.
> Iris scanner is used for authenticating biometricx  . 80% of visual
> impairment case can work with iris scanner but 20% of visual impairment can
> not be accomodated.
> However UID had an exception but don't know about DU.
> Hoep this helps.
> Asif
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 10:31 PM
> To: Access India
> Subject: [AI] Biometric and Accessibility
>
> Hello all,
> As some of you people might be aware of the fact that very soon, maybe in a
> couple of months from now, all colleges under the University of Delhi are
> going to introduce biometric system to control the absenteeism and teachers
> attendance. What I've heard from some unconfirmed sources that the
> biometric
> machines that are being procured are not finger based as most of them are
> today, most probably they would be either eye contact based or face
> recognition based. I'd like to know what would be the choices/remedies for
> the people with visual impairment if the latter types of machines are
> installed, especially if they are eye contact based. has anybody so far
> come
> across this kind of system? Is it really manageable the latter types of
> machines for the above mentioned category of people?
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Re: [AI] difficulty in reading The Hindu Newspaper: help, please.

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Better than mobile version is to get to index and read all sections.
To do so, go to the hindu home page, hit "today's news" and then
"index". Ones you are there, then you should be able to navigate
around various sections by pressing letter H or appropriate headings
by pressing their associated keys. For example, 1 for heading1.

Vetri.

On 19/11/2012, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> may be.
>
> On 11/19/12, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> But one big shortcoming I'm experiencing while going Mobile version of
>> The Hindu.
>> It doesn't display the all news items of a particular section.
>> like if I  have to read National items mobile version only displays
>> six seven items, where as The website Index version displays 20 items.
>> I have again gone back to read via Website Index.
>> On 11/19/12, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>>> Hello!
>>> The mobile virsion of this website I mean thehindu is very symple. I
>>> am writing some stepps for those who are having problems with it.
>>> 1. go to http://m.thehindu.com.
>>> 2. after that reach to link sections by pressing down errow two ro three
>>> times.
>>> 3. after pressing enter on that you will be able to see the list of
>>> various sections of the news paper like breaking news, top stories,
>>> education, national etc. hit enter on the desired section.
>>> 4. It should load after that navigate the page using erro keys and
>>> press enter on that news which you want to read.
>>> 5. after the page gets loaded press N key on the keyboard to reach to
>>> the plane text and enjoy your news without those anawing page refresh
>>> and advertisements.
>>> 6. you can go back by pressing alt + left erro and then select the
>>> next topic to read. it is as symple as that.
>>> regards
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/21/12, Prashanth  wrote:
 I use RSS feeds on Mozilla Firefox to read The Hindu.
 Disabling immages will load the page quite quickly.

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 To: 
 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 4:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] difficulty in reading The Hindu Newspaper: help,
 please.


>i too feel the same.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Renuka Warriar" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 4:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] difficulty in reading The Hindu Newspaper: help,
> please.
>
>
>> But, when I tried the mobile website, I felt that, the original
>> website is more easy to use. (only my personal opinion.)
>> Renuka.
>>
>> On 11/18/12, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>> thank you so much Sir.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/18/12, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
 I will suggest that you open and read the mobile version of the
 newspapers.
 They are really accessible and without any clutter.
 Here are the urls
 http://m.thehindu.com/
 http://m.timesofindia.com

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 Behalf
 Of bijoy sukumaran
 Sent: 18 November 2012 21:00
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] difficulty in reading The Hindu Newspaper: help,
 please.

 Avinash, i could read the hindu even today.
 don't know whether the page is getting fully loaded or not, but the
 entire
 news was visible

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>
> Why The Hindu Newspaper's website is not working normally since
> yesterday?
> When I'm hitting on any link to read news item, the full page is
> not
> getting displayed.
> is it their problem, or my computer's fault?
> Help me.
> Website is: www.thehindu.com
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Re: [AI] What are the latest netbooks available in Indian market?

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Ok, but forgive my ignorence. What is an entry level laptop? Is it
something like netbook with larger screens? And how about their price
range?

Vetri.

On 30/08/2012, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Hi vetri,
> Unfortunately for VI comunity allmost all major manufacturors have
> stopped shipping netbooks. You can explore about acer and asus. But
> being very frank I didn't like acer netbook at all because of it's too
> much clumbzy keyboard. and asus doesn't have a pleasing sound quality.
> My suggestion will be to buy an entry level laptop instead of netbook.
> I also bought one and works like a charm for me.
> regards
>
> On 8/30/12, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan  wrote:
>> A father of a visually challenged daughter contacted me and wanted to
>> know about the availability of netbooks at cheeper prize. Since I am
>> not familiar with Indian computer market at the moment, Your
>> suggestions will be well appriciated.
>>
>> Thanks and Regards,
>>
>> Vetri.
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Re: [AI] For loadstone users in Tamilnadu

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi,

visit:

http://www.loadstone-gps.com

and you will find manual and other resources. There is also an user
group and you can join them to learn further.

Vetri.

On 19/07/2012, Sakina Dhariwala  wrote:
> Hi I want to learn basics of Lodestone. Can I get any tutorial or any
> website to learn lodestone?
> With warm regards Sakina.
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] For loadstone users in Tamilnadu
>
>
>> Hi pranav,
>>
>> I used the LS tool http://www.loadstone-gps.com/docs/tools/gcd/index.php
>> to get specific points. Of course it was a time consuming process
>> since I could not find a way to download points directly by using the
>> me log file. As you may be aware, the above tool basically uses Google
>> earth to get coordinates for a specific location. If you know of a
>> better tool, then let me know.
>>
>> Vetri.
>>
>> On 18/07/2012, Pranav Lal  wrote:
>>> Hi Vetri.,
>>>
>>> How did you create the points using Google Earth? Did you upload
>>> nmea.log
>>> files to Google Earth and then pull the data from there?
>>>
>>> Pranav
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Re: [AI] For loadstone users in Tamilnadu

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi pranav,

I used the LS tool http://www.loadstone-gps.com/docs/tools/gcd/index.php
to get specific points. Of course it was a time consuming process
since I could not find a way to download points directly by using the
me log file. As you may be aware, the above tool basically uses Google
earth to get coordinates for a specific location. If you know of a
better tool, then let me know.

Vetri.

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> Hi Vetri.,
>
> How did you create the points using Google Earth? Did you upload nmea.log
> files to Google Earth and then pull the data from there?
>
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Re: [AI] regarding OS

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Actually, even windows 7 can be installed without sighted help and
this is the main reason for asking you (Haris Capur) to look at the
list archive before replying to other members.

Vetri.

On 26/06/2012, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Even we can use orca to install linux / ubuntu. Windows should learn
> this thing from linux specially ubuntu.
> regards
>
> On 6/26/12, Pranav Lal  wrote:
>> Harish,
>>
>> This is incorrect. See the unattended install mechanism in windows. Many
>> Linux distributions allow you to install the operating system without
>> sighted help.
>>
>> Pranav
>>
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Re: [AI] Stop announcement in bus

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi,

If my memory is correct, Tamilnadu Trans was planning to roll out some
GPS enabled busses in Chennai. Any experience with those busses as for
as announcements are concerned?

Vetri.

On 19/06/2012, Renuka Warriar  wrote:
> All the private buses, at least in Trissur district announce the bus
> stops.  I didn't mean the KSRTC buses, but the private buses do
> announce.
>
> On 6/18/12, Sathiyaprakash Ramdoss  wrote:
>>  Indeed a great NEWS!
>> Here in the U.S. passengers are required to pull a rope located near
>> the window to inform the driver or bus operator to inform him/ her
>> that the approaching stop is requested. Some of you might aware that
>> we do not have conductors here. Usually, bus announces the approaching
>> bus stops and it only announces major / important bus stations or stop
>> points- and in a synthetic male or female voice. Thank you.
>>
>> Sathiyaprakash.
>> .On 6/18/12, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>>> All
>>>
>>> I was pleasantly surprised when the city bus at Mumbai I happened to be
>>> travelling was making stop announcements. It was quite useful. I
>>> supposed,
>>> it is also GPS based. At one place it gave confusing stop names, overall
>>> it
>>> was good.
>>>
>>> Soon, all the buses I hope, will have it functioning.
>>>
>>> Harish Kotian.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AI] regarding quickoffice

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Just to add, there is no demo for quickoffice and phones generally
come with quickoffice viewer with which you cannot edit files. I have
been told that latest phones do have quickoffice with editing
features, but I have not seen them personally and henceforth cannot
comment on that. So in a word, quickoffice is a paid/lisenced
software. And harish kapoor, please take moderator's comment in good
spirit and please do a bit of research before commenting on the list.

Vetri.

On 15/06/2012, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Harish Kapoor
>
> There are 2 versions of quickoffice one which is merely a reader and the
> other you can read, create an Office Word file.
> Depending on the model it can be any of the two. You can also pay for the
> full version where only QO reader comes as a default.
>
> Hence, it is necessary to warn members that they don't inadvertently share a
> full version.
>
> Secondly, Generally speaking, it is not possible to be aware which software
> is freeware and commercial hence, it is better to warn before hand rather
> than take action later on. We would not want to loose on our members or take
> strict action if it can be prevented.
>
> Harish Kotian.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: harish kapoor [mailto:harish.kapoor1...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 15 June 2012 12:32
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] regarding quickoffice
>
> Mr. harish kotian sir, first of all I would like to tell you I have
> got quikoffice, and also know you are moderator but think aboute it
> that if you don't know aboute demo version availabl or not you should
> not say don't share the softwaire and also I know piracy soft waire
> can not be share.
> as per your knolige it is also illeaggal and hope you will deffinately
> think aboute it.
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Re: [AI] problem in checking the seat Availability on indianrail.gov.in

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

That's why it's a good idea to find station code for your
source/destination and even small stations got to have a code.

Vetri.

On 12/06/2012, mukesh jain  wrote:
> hello,
> what if station is not included in the list such as, korba, akaltara
> or champa? although these are not major stations but lot many trains
> pass bye from these stations.
> thanks,
> mukesh.
>
> On 6/12/12, Sachit Kumar Sahrawat  wrote:
>> Hi dear!
>>
>>
>> You don't put the station codes, you just select the station from the
>> list.  I am sending you the link, use this to check the availability,
>> its working.  If you still feel problem, contact me of the list to
>> avoid rush.
>>
>> http://www.indianrail.gov.in/between_Imp_Stations.html
>>
>> On 6/9/12, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>>> everything is fine here. i am just typing station code and filling all
>>> the
>>> required information by moving through tab and getting availability.
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "RAJ VASWANI" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 6:55 PM
>>> Subject: [AI] problem in checking the seat Availability on
>>> indianrail.gov.in
>>>
>>>
 Dear group members,

 As the subject line says, I am facing a problem in checking the seat
 Availability for any train on indianrail.gov.in. Whenever I try to do
 this, it says that destination station can not be left blank or
 sometimes

 it says: source station can not be left blank.

 However I've checked the all data always before clicking on the get
 status

 button. there is nothing missing in any column.

>>


 Kindly do inform me that how can I overcome from this strange problem?



 Hope to hear from anyone of you shortly.



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Re: [AI] regarding bsnl datacard

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

2G packs: RS 7 = 100MB for 1 day. RS 54 = 500MB. RS 98 = 2GB. RS 270 =
10GB. They all have 1 month validity. RS 308 = 8GB with 90 days
validity.

Vetri.

On 10/06/2012, SYED IMRAN  wrote:
> 3g or 2g
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of harish kapoor
> Sent: 10 June 2012 12:12
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] regarding bsnl datacard
>
> hello accessindia friends no relaxation in BSNL datacard and if you want so
> cheeper internet you can perchase BSNL sim and recharge stv 48 ru. you will
> get 500 mb permonth all india roming free for internet and also use it
> computer and laptop more info.
> email:harish.kapoor1...@gmail.com
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Re: [AI] (no subject)

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

On windows help, search for those words and you will get the appropriate result.

Vetri.

On 09/06/2012, harish kapoor  wrote:
> hello accessindia friend I am using window 7 last night I format
> window7 now I could not custemise the desktop in windo 7 pls tell me
> how to custemise the desktop in window7?
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[AI] doubt regarding railway consession form

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi,

It is my understanding that railway consession forms can be signed by
any registered medical doctor working in a government hospetals or
head of institutions recognized by social welfare. So I am assuming
that one doesn't necessarily have to go to an optemologist in order to
get the form certified. Please clarify me regarding this and I have
been out of touch for long time on this matter.

Thanks.

Vetri.


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Re: [AI] How can one improve his/her writing skills in English?

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Perhaps talking via skipe, but I am not sure about chatt rooms.
Because they are filled with broken/celephone languages, one may
actually end-up being mislead.

Vetri.

On 31/05/2012, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
> oh! one can improve both the things simultaneously through chatting or
> talking over skype/yahoo messanger with new friends in various countries.
> With Warm Regards
> B. R. Nautial
> Mobile: +919915073368
> - Original Message -
> From: "Binni Kumari" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 5:12 PM
> Subject: [AI] How can one improve his/her writing skills in English?
>
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> How can one learn to communicate  simply and accurately in English in
>> writing?
>> If someone wants to start from  scratch, how should one go about it?
>>
>> Thanks in anticipation!
>> With best regards,
>> Binni Kumari
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Re: [AI] INFO NEDED ABOUT SATILITE PHONES

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

First of all, satalite phones are very expencive. Second, they are
inaccesible for visually challenged users. Third, you are not allowed
to use them in India and you need to get lisence from the state.

Vetri.

On 31/05/2012, PRASHANTH  wrote:
> Hello there:
> as I aware, satilite phones are used in defence and alide fields.
>
> are sofisticated
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Shankar" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:30 AM
> Subject: [AI] INFO NEDED ABOUT SATILITE PHONES
>
>
>> Hi all, hope things r going well
>> and enjoying barath band
>>
>> does any 1 using satilite phones
>>
>> if yes how does it work
>> and what r the features
>> does talks and mobile speak screen readers r supported?
>> Or is there any inbult screenreaders are given
>>
>> and on which platform
>> the phones r devoloped
>>
>> looking for the reply
>>
>> it is urjunt i need to get it 1 for myself
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from  blackberry curve 9360
>> registered phone
>> thanks and regards
>> shan
>> email: harshalg...@gmail.com
>> mobile: +919591846442
>> skype: shankar.a
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Airtel 3G plans Karnataka - Suggestion required

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Naturally. In order to have 4G sims, you need 4g supported phones and
I believe that they are not yet available in India.

Vetri.

On 30/05/2012, PRASHANTH  wrote:
> Yes, if I remember right, that dongle cost 7000plus
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sheik mohammedali" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Airtel 3G plans Karnataka - Suggestion required
>
>
>> only 4g dongle, not yet sim.
>> ----- Original Message -
>> From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 12:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Airtel 3G plans Karnataka - Suggestion required
>>
>>
>>> If my memory is correct, airtel just introduced 4G at Bangalore. If
>>> so, then you will get much faster download/upload speed in contrast to
>>> 2G/3G.
>>>
>>> Vetri.
>>>
>>> On 30/05/2012, Sheik mohammedali  wrote:
>>>> you are telling it post paid right? if so, it's not 1 GB, 2 GB of 3g
>>>> data
>>>> will be given.
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "SYED IMRAN" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:55 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Airtel 3G plans Karnataka - Suggestion required
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If you are in Bangalore, go for 299 plan. This will give you 700
>>>>> minutes
>>>>> of
>>>>> talktime, STD and local included. This will also provide you 1 GB of
>>>>> internet (I don't know weather 3 G or 2 g).
>>>>> You will get 100 free messages everyday weather you use it or not
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>>>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
>>>>> Chakravarthula (Lists Account)
>>>>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:43
>>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>>> Subject: [AI] Airtel 3G plans Karnataka - Suggestion required
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Firstly, my apologize this email is nothing do with accessibility,
>>>>> assistive
>>>>> technologies, lives of people with vision impairment; yet, posting
>>>>> this
>>>>> question, in case this may be helpful to anyone else, who might use a
>>>>> lot
>>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>> data on the go. Harish, please close the thread if you feel
>>>>> inappropriate
>>>>>
>>>>> in
>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using iPhone 3GS and use data including email, social networking,
>>>>> gps
>>>>> etc. and I also do use the phone for calls - more often national
>>>>> calls;
>>>>> my
>>>>> service provider is Airtel and it's post-paid (some folks call this as
>>>>> billing). I would like to know, what is the best plan in Airtel one
>>>>> should
>>>>> choose for above requirement. I am not a fan of SMS.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless, you feel your reply helps everyone on the list, I would
>>>>> request
>>>>> you
>>>>> to write to me off the list at li...@srinivasu.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and sorry again,
>>>>>
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Re: [AI] Hello friends how can we spell the words in mail when we use the mobile.

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Just bear in mind that the above instruction applies only to talks and
some here on the list use mobile speak as well.

Vetri.

On 30/05/2012, Kakarla Nageswaraiah  wrote:
> Hello,
> Change the cursor mode to letters.  It may not work on the Web.  In
> that case, use the object navigation feature of Talks.  On a
> particular line which you want to read letter by letter, just press
> talks and then the select key for a few seconds; arrow down to focus
> and select twice.
> Regards.
>
>
> On 5/29/12, Kavitha  wrote:
>> say what?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:41 PM
>> Subject: [AI] Hello friends how can we spell the words in mail when we use
>> the mobile.
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Is Neu York Times not any more freely readable and accessible?

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

That's correct. Excluding the editorial/comments section, NY times
have been converted in to paid News paper.

Vetri.

On 30/05/2012, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Friends
>
> For last two days I am being asked to subscribe NY times in the middle
> of any article. this was not the case before.
> I am very tensed, what to do.
> How to access NY Times now?
> is there any Journal which has subscription of Ny Times?
> If any member here has any info regarding accessibility of Ny Times
> via any Journal
> Please, let me know.
> I am in desperate need some opinion items are very essential for me to
> read.
> like
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/30/opinion/how-china-flouts-its-laws.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&gwh=80ECB3C3DD960037C47345CA78F42D52
> Thanking in advance, help me.
>
> --
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> M.A. Political Science
> CPS JNU
> New Delhi India
> You can join my group 'World opinion'
>  By hitting enter on
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Re: [AI] Airtel 3G plans Karnataka - Suggestion required

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

If my memory is correct, airtel just introduced 4G at Bangalore. If
so, then you will get much faster download/upload speed in contrast to
2G/3G.

Vetri.

On 30/05/2012, Sheik mohammedali  wrote:
> you are telling it post paid right? if so, it's not 1 GB, 2 GB of 3g data
> will be given.
> - Original Message -
> From: "SYED IMRAN" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Airtel 3G plans Karnataka - Suggestion required
>
>
>> If you are in Bangalore, go for 299 plan. This will give you 700 minutes
>> of
>> talktime, STD and local included. This will also provide you 1 GB of
>> internet (I don't know weather 3 G or 2 g).
>> You will get 100 free messages everyday weather you use it or not
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
>> Chakravarthula (Lists Account)
>> Sent: 29 May 2012 20:43
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: [AI] Airtel 3G plans Karnataka - Suggestion required
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>>
>>
>> Firstly, my apologize this email is nothing do with accessibility,
>> assistive
>> technologies, lives of people with vision impairment; yet, posting this
>> question, in case this may be helpful to anyone else, who might use a lot
>>
>> of
>> data on the go. Harish, please close the thread if you feel inappropriate
>>
>> in
>> anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am using iPhone 3GS and use data including email, social networking,
>> gps
>> etc. and I also do use the phone for calls - more often national calls;
>> my
>> service provider is Airtel and it's post-paid (some folks call this as
>> billing). I would like to know, what is the best plan in Airtel one
>> should
>> choose for above requirement. I am not a fan of SMS.
>>
>>
>>
>> Unless, you feel your reply helps everyone on the list, I would request
>> you
>> to write to me off the list at li...@srinivasu.org
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and sorry again,
>>
>> -Srinivasu
>>
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Re: [AI] two technical questions

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

As for as my first problem goes, I don't see the option to increase
the volume for line-in under volume control. Rather I see only two
devices namely the microphone and the sound card being listed as
recording/playback devices respectively. what am I missing out here? I
am also using windows 7 32 bit. and thanks for answering my second
question and I shall try it out.

Vetri.

On 10/04/2012, Divyanshu Ganatra  wrote:
> Hi,
> could you eloborate the process you are using currently to record? I
> use wave pad recorder and it seems to do  the trick for me. i'm using
> windows 7 on my laptop. what specific problem are you facing?
>
>  divyanshu
> On 4/10/12, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I don't usually use audio editing software, but I need to urgently
>> convert an audio tape in to mp3 or wav by using my PC. I am unable to
>> make my line-in to work. Any suggestion on this matter? Second, How do
>> I move to a specific item in a compobox without activating the link
>> associated with it? I am using JAWS 13.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Vetri.
>>
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[AI] two technical questions

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi all,

I don't usually use audio editing software, but I need to urgently
convert an audio tape in to mp3 or wav by using my PC. I am unable to
make my line-in to work. Any suggestion on this matter? Second, How do
I move to a specific item in a compobox without activating the link
associated with it? I am using JAWS 13.

Thanks.

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Re: [AI] Need computer clock

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

I guess you can get "say the time" and I think the lisence costs you
about $10. I could be slightly wrong about the prizing.

Vetri.

On 04/04/2012, Sakina Dhariwala  wrote:
> Hi friends, I want a clock wich can ring as cockoo or cock and we can set
> alarm also.
> With warm regards Sakina.
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Re: [AI] Open Office

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Why don't you get it from:

http://www.openoffice.org

Vetri.

On 16/03/2012, Saji Mathews  wrote:
> Hello Friends,
>
> Does anyone has the set up of Open Office (Latest Version)?  If so,
> kindly  share the link to download the same either from Drop Box or
> from  other  links.
>
> Thanks in Advance.
>
>
> SAJI
>
>
>
>
> --
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> Manager(Commercial)
> Food Corporation of India
> Distt.Office,
> Dehradun.UK.
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Re: [AI] help needed

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

I have no idea. Unless someone gives you a better idea, your best bet
is to uninstall and reinstall the internet explorer.

Vetri.

On 12/03/2012, Arul Selvi  wrote:
> Thank you for your information.  I followed your instructions,  and in
> the add-ons I clicked all add-ons and all the add-ons displayed in the
> status enabled.  And I finally clicked closed and opened the internet
> the status is still the same.  and I tried restarting the computer
> still  it says the internet currently running on add-ons
> dissabled.
> With thanks and regards.
>
> On 3/11/12, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan  wrote:
>> Here is the relevant info from the FAQ:
>>
>> How can I see which add-ons are installed?
>> list of 5 items
>> 1. Click to open Internet Explorer.
>>
>> 2. Click the Tools button, and then click Manage Add-ons.
>>
>> 3. Under Add-on Types, click Toolbars and Extensions.
>>
>> 4. Under Show, you can select one of the following views of your add-ons:
>>
>> list of 4 items nesting level 1
>> • To display a complete list of the add-ons that reside on your
>> computer, click All add-ons.
>>
>> • To display only those add-ons that were needed for the current
>> webpage or a recently viewed webpage, click Currently loaded add-ons.
>>
>> • To display add-ons that were pre-approved by Microsoft, your
>> computer manufacturer, or a service provider, click Run without
>> permission.
>>
>> • To display only 32-bit ActiveX controls, click Downloaded controls.
>> list end nesting level 1
>>
>> 5. When you are finished, click Close.
>> list end
>>
>> Why am I getting a message saying I'm running without add-ons when I
>> start Internet Explorer?
>>
>> This message appears when Internet Explorer is opened with add-ons
>> disabled. To run Internet Explorer normally (with add-ons turned on),
>> make sure to click
>> Internet Explorer on the Start menu and do not click Internet Explorer
>> (No Add-ons).
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Vetri.
>>
>> On 10/03/2012, Arul Selvi  wrote:
>>> Hello access Indians,  hope all are doing wel.  I need expert's
>>> suggestions.  When I open internet exploror it says  internet exploror
>>> is running with addons disabled.  And says click here to manage
>>> disable or remove your addons.   When I clik manage addons and make
>>> enable all the addons finally close.  nothing happens.  And it is in
>>> the same position.  Can any one help to get over this problem.
>>> Thanks in advance.  with regards P. Arulselvi.
>>>
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Re: [AI] Accessibility of Apple products

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi, Remember that the in-build voiceover is available only with
I-phone 3gs and above. The 3g models don't include that feature.
Second, activating the voiceover with the latest software is very
easy. You just press the home key thrice in rapid siquence.

Vetri.

On 12/03/2012, li...@srinivasu.org  wrote:
> Yes, Siri is good too but that still needs some improvements. But for
> dictation, yup, it's good.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu
> Sent from my iPhone
> -
> Senior Inclusive Design Manager, Yahoo!
> http://accessibility.yahoo.com
> http://Srinivasu.org
> Twitter: @vasutweets
>
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Phen Varghese  wrote:
>
>> What about Siri?
>> Will that be also good?
>>
>> RGDS,
>>
>> Phen
>>
>> On 3/12/12, Srinivasu Chakravarthula  wrote:
>>> Murali,
>>> If they show you any of the device for demo, you may consider asking them
>>> to
>>> activate VoiceOver and the steps are pretty simple. Go to Settings -->
>>> General --> Accessibility --> VoiceOver ON...
>>>
>>> Also, this link may be of use to you - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3598
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> -Srinivasu
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Murali
>>> Padmanabhan
>>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:52 PM
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Accessibility of Apple products
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Srinivasu,
>>> Many thanks for the mail and the quick note about apple products.
>>> I was visiting a store yesterday and not sure about the executives having
>>> the knowledge about the in built voice software.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Murali Padmanabhan
>>> Inclusive Development Officer
>>>
>>>
>>> CBM South Asia Regional Office (North)
>>>
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>>> Chamarajpet,
>>>
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>>>
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>>> 3640
>>>
>>> . Email: mur...@cbmsaron.org  . www.cbm.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CBM - Building an inclusive society
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Srinivasu
>>> Chakravarthula
>>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 1:02 PM
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Accessibility of Apple products
>>>
>>> Hi Murali,
>>>
>>> Yes, you can go for Apple products if the budget permits:-) You do not
>>> require to install any screen reader etc. on it. Apple products comes
>>> with
>>> in-built accessibility tools such as Voice Over Screen reader and Zoom
>>> for
>>> low vision etc. Most of the applications (at least, so far I have used)
>>> are
>>> accessible. I use Apple iPad and iPhone and use them for communication,
>>> reading news, books, sharing, social on Twitter and FB and of course, I
>>> do
>>> use it to isten to music as well as playing a few games like Chess...
>>>
>>> You can find all accessibility related information on Apple products at
>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> -Srinivasu
>>> +91 9900810881
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P
>>> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:03 PM
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: [AI] Accessibility of Apple products
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello
>>> The message pasted below, did not get to the list.
>>> Harish Kotian
>>> Quoting:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Friends,
>>>
>>> Can you throw some light on different apple products in terms of their
>>> compatibility with our speech softwares and our accessibility?
>>> Can we go for the latest arrivals such as I pad 3 etc?
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Murali Padmanabhan
>>> Inclusive Development Officer
>>>
>>>
>>> CBM South Asia Regional Office (North)
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>>> Chamarajpet,
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Re: [AI] Accessibility of Apple products

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Even the in-build screen reader on Mak computers have been improving
to a considerable extent. Overall, I can say that the out of box
experience with apple is truely admirable from the accessibility point
of view.

Vetri.


I am in India at the moment and my cell - +919486123815.


Produced I my Nokia N97 mini via BSNL internet using “talks”, a screen
reader for S60 phones.


On 12/03/2012, Srinivasu Chakravarthula  wrote:
> Hi Murali,
>
> Yes, you can go for Apple products if the budget permits:-) You do not
> require to install any screen reader etc. on it. Apple products comes with
> in-built accessibility tools such as Voice Over Screen reader and Zoom for
> low vision etc. Most of the applications (at least, so far I have used) are
> accessible. I use Apple iPad and iPhone and use them for communication,
> reading news, books, sharing, social on Twitter and FB and of course, I do
> use it to isten to music as well as playing a few games like Chess...
>
> You can find all accessibility related information on Apple products at
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>
> Hope this helps,
> -Srinivasu
> +91 9900810881
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:03 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Accessibility of Apple products
>
>
> Hello
> The message pasted below, did not get to the list.
> Harish Kotian
> Quoting:
>
>
> Dear Friends,
>
>  Can you throw some light on different apple products in terms of their
> compatibility with our speech softwares and our accessibility?
> Can we go for the latest arrivals such as I pad 3 etc?
> Best regards,
>
> Murali Padmanabhan
> Inclusive Development Officer
>
>
> CBM South Asia Regional Office (North)
> #140, "Commerce Cube", 3rd Floor, 5th Main, Puttannachetty Road,
> Chamarajpet,
> Bangalore - 560 018. Karnataka - INDIA
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Re: [AI] help needed

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Here is the relevant info from the FAQ:

How can I see which add-ons are installed?
list of 5 items
1. Click to open Internet Explorer.

2. Click the Tools button, and then click Manage Add-ons.

3. Under Add-on Types, click Toolbars and Extensions.

4. Under Show, you can select one of the following views of your add-ons:

list of 4 items nesting level 1
• To display a complete list of the add-ons that reside on your
computer, click All add-ons.

• To display only those add-ons that were needed for the current
webpage or a recently viewed webpage, click Currently loaded add-ons.

• To display add-ons that were pre-approved by Microsoft, your
computer manufacturer, or a service provider, click Run without
permission.

• To display only 32-bit ActiveX controls, click Downloaded controls.
list end nesting level 1

5. When you are finished, click Close.
list end

Why am I getting a message saying I'm running without add-ons when I
start Internet Explorer?

This message appears when Internet Explorer is opened with add-ons
disabled. To run Internet Explorer normally (with add-ons turned on),
make sure to click
Internet Explorer on the Start menu and do not click Internet Explorer
(No Add-ons).

Hope this helps.

Vetri.

On 10/03/2012, Arul Selvi  wrote:
> Hello access Indians,  hope all are doing wel.  I need expert's
> suggestions.  When I open internet exploror it says  internet exploror
> is running with addons disabled.  And says click here to manage
> disable or remove your addons.   When I clik manage addons and make
> enable all the addons finally close.  nothing happens.  And it is in
> the same position.  Can any one help to get over this problem.
> Thanks in advance.  with regards P. Arulselvi.
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Re: [AI] A Question

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Note pad is for text files whereas word pad used to creat simple word
files that can be opened with microsoft word. The trouble is that it
only has basic typing functions and you need microsoft or open office
to perform advanced editing functions.

Vetri.

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> Hello friends
> Let me know the difference between notepad and world pad Please!
> With Regards
> B. R. Nautial
> Mobile: +919915073368
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Re: [AI] Tamil Screen reader

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi, You need to install E-speak with Tamil male or female voice
options or both. The read me file on the e-speak folder explains steps
to add additional voices. You can use E-speak either with JAWS or
NVDA.

Vetri.

On 21/02/2012, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> Friends
> What screen readers are available for reading in Tamil? Whether JAWS?
> NVDA?
> Any other.
> I require it for a colleague of mine whose eyesight is on the decline...
>
>
> With thanks and regards
>
>
>
> (Rajesh Asudani)
> Assistant General Manager
> Reserve Bank of India
> Nagpur
> Cell: 9420397185
> o: +91 712 2806846
> R: 2591349
>
> (In youth you want things, and then in middle-age you want to want them.)
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Re: [AI] Sangita TTS

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Get it here:

http://freedomscientific.com/downloads/RealSpeak-Solo-Direct-Voices/RealSpeak-Solo-Direct-Downloads.asp

Vetri.

On 11/02/2012, moiz tundawala  wrote:
> Hi
> Can anyone please send me the Sangita TTS or tell me where to download
> it from? A visually impaired student needs to have it installed on his
> computer.
> Moiz.
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Re: [AI] internet radio with talks

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It will work only with the latest version of talks. I have not
experimented it myself, but that's what I was told.

Vetri.

On 06/02/2012, Jitendra Malik  wrote:
> hi friends, hope all are well and enjoying. i have nokia e 63 with
> talks 4. i want to use internet radio installed on my phone. kindly
> guide me about the steps to do it. many thanks and best regards.
> jitendra
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Re: [AI] Query regarding Ms Outlook Express

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

If it's public accounts like gmail, then the info is publically
available to us. If it's an e-mail of some firm or other organization,
then you have to get the server info from them. So let's know.

Vetri.

On 06/02/2012, Binni Kumari  wrote:
> What sort of other details you would require, Vetri?
> Binni Kumari
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding Ms Outlook Express
>
>
> It could be because of the outgoing server or the port number not
> being properly idetified. To give you further tips, we require more
> info. Vetri.
>
> On 06/02/2012, Binni Kumari  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have configured my four e-mail ids in MS outlook Express. I am able to
>> send my e-mails from two of them and unable to send from the rest of the
>> two. What sort of technical problem I may be facing and how can it be
>> resolved?
>>  Thanks in anticipation for the responses,
>> Binni Kumari
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Re: [AI] Query regarding Ms Outlook Express

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

It could be because of the outgoing server or the port number not
being properly idetified. To give you further tips, we require more
info. Vetri.

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> Hi all,
>
> I have configured my four e-mail ids in MS outlook Express. I am able to
> send my e-mails from two of them and unable to send from the rest of the
> two. What sort of technical problem I may be facing and how can it be
> resolved?
>  Thanks in anticipation for the responses,
> Binni Kumari
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Re: [AI] problem in downloading fci hallticket

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

That's too general. You have to tell us exactly what happens on the
sight so that we can determine whether it can be workable with the
screen reader.

Vetri.

On 04/02/2012, B Jyothi  wrote:
> Hi access Indians,
>
> I'm not able to download FCI HALL TICKET.
>
> YOUR help would be highly appreciated.--
>
> waiting for your response.
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Re: [AI] Sleep disorders of blind persons

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

True. The reason I mentioned big city is because of the fact that
there are cities that never sleep and never feel darkness because of
artificial lights. At the same time countries like Norvay never get
sun for many months during winter. So I guess that the body clock
issue can affect sighted people as well.

Vetri.

On 01/02/2012, Geetha Shamanna  wrote:
> I wonder how relevant these aspects are in the modern time, when everything
> including the number of hours one sleeps is regulated by the external clock.
> Although I can still see the light, I never wake up because it is bright
> outside, but only because the alarm rings!
>
> While it has been scientifically proven that lack of light perception does
> affect the body's rhythm, having a regular routine and getting enough
> exercise can help one sleep at night and remain active during the day. Many
> totally blind people do that successfully.
>
> Having said that, I know a couple of blind people here who have participated
> in sleep disorder research that was conducted at a university some years
> ago. They still sleep at irregular hours and complain about their body clock
> going haywire. However, how much of their problem has to do with their body
> clock and how much with their tendency to give into their urge to sleep
> during the day is debatable. Besides, if one sleeps for a good many hours
> during the day, one would have trouble sleeping at night regardless of a
> disrupted body clock.
>
> Geetha
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of payal
> Sent: 01 February 2012 10:11
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Sleep disorders of blind persons
>
> These aspects are difficult to adjust to when one has lost their sight
> midway in life. The whole body is thrown into a state of chaos, both
> physically and psychologically. At that stage, it is indeed difficult to
> identify the passing of day and night fall. Remember, the individual took
> all these available senses for granted and have no idea how to make the
> residual senses  do the job.
>
> With passage of time, it is simply a matter of habit. Initially one may use
> the elements mentioned by Vetri, but as time goes on, these become a part of
> life's daily cycle and the body clock talks. A change in schedule like a
> change of place can throw things out of gear. There will be some daily
> sounds one will ultimately relate to, in fact,  I think the smell of a
> morning is different from that of the night, correct me if I'm wrong, but
> I've noticed this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam
> Vetrivel Murugan
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 3:17 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Sleep disorders of blind persons
>
> Also, I used to wonder about the process of a completely sightless person's
> ability to distinguish night and day. But when you think about it carefully,
> it actually makes sense. There are sounds related to day, early morning and
> of course nights. Besides, perhaps the temperature and other similar
> elements can help him/her to distinguish night and day. The only question
> is: What if one lives in a big city where many of these elements are not
> easy to identify? Would love to hear people's experience.
>
> Vetri.
>
> On 01/02/2012, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have changed the subject line.
>>
>> Yes, it is true, blind persons face sleep disorders. More correctly,
> sleeps
>> gets triggered during day time. It is found by researchers, the body's
>> timeclock or the bioclock gets  reset by sunshine.Hence, you can stand
>> in sunshine early hours facing the sun.
>>
>> The tip helps folks who travel across countries and the body has to
>> adjust to the new time of that area.
>>
>> Harish
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pankaj Kwatra [mailto:pankaj.kwa...@tecnovate.co.in]
>> Sent: 01 February 2012 09:43
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
>> hearing /speech impaired.
>>
>> Hello Folks,
>>
>> Please members also give inputs on dream during daytime or when person
>> is awake as with no vision how does brain make out difference in day
>> or night and something about conscious and unconscious state of mind
>> plus any sleep disorders.
>>
>> Rgds,
>>
>> Pankaj Kwatra
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-

Re: [AI] Sleep disorders of blind persons

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Also, I used to wonder about the process of a completely sightless
person's ability to distinguish night and day. But when you think
about it carefully, it actually makes sense. There are sounds related
to day, early morning and of course nights. Besides, perhaps the
temperature and other similar elements can help him/her to distinguish
night and day. The only question is: What if one lives in a big city
where many of these elements are not easy to identify? Would love to
hear people's experience.

Vetri.

On 01/02/2012, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I have changed the subject line.
>
> Yes, it is true, blind persons face sleep disorders. More correctly, sleeps
> gets triggered during day time. It is found by researchers, the body's
> timeclock or the bioclock gets  reset by sunshine.Hence, you can stand in
> sunshine early hours facing the sun.
>
> The tip helps folks who travel across countries and the body has to adjust
> to the new time of that area.
>
> Harish
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pankaj Kwatra [mailto:pankaj.kwa...@tecnovate.co.in]
> Sent: 01 February 2012 09:43
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
> hearing /speech impaired.
>
> Hello Folks,
>
> Please members also give inputs on dream during daytime or when person
> is awake as with no vision how does brain make out difference in day or
> night and something about conscious and unconscious state of mind plus
> any sleep disorders.
>
> Rgds,
>
> Pankaj Kwatra
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Himanshu
> Sahu
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:51 AM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
> hearing /speech impaired.
>
> No Sir. Visual clarity is diminishing in my case.
>
> Even sometimes its blurred and difficult to ascertain whether in dream
> also I am imagining or actually experiencing the thing. I find a
> blue/black type of film hindering visualization.
> Now in many dreams, I act in a sighted manner (I lost my eyesight
> suddenly, 8 years back) but feel a sense of restriction like conscious
> or sub-conscious part of my mind is saying that I am blind and hence
> how is it possible?
> I too create imaginary pictures especially of human I interact with.
> But, inadvertently. And recently after getting it confirmed by sighted
> aid I found that it differs in case to case.
>
> Now, it also becomes difficult to determine whether any movie is seen
> in sighted or blindness condition.
>
> (on behalf of Rajesh Sir)
>
> On 1/24/12, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>> Hi Bijal
>>
>> I suppose, dreams are just the manifestation of the world of your
> awakened
>> conscious state. What ever gives sensory inputs, those would be
> reflected in
>> the dream state.
>>
>> Continuing with Vetri's comments, sexual experiences in dream would be
>> triggered by biological factors like those of hormones, scent,
> thoughts etc.
>>
>> Interesting topic.
>> Harish Kotian.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: bijal patel [mailto:bijalpatel...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 23 January 2012 23:11
>> To: accessindia
>> Subject: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, &
> hearing
>> /speech impaired.
>>
>> Dear friends,
>> It's just my curiosity to know about dreams during night of totally
>> and born blind as well as hearing/speech impaired person.
>> How are the dreams of such persons who never see colours in life? Is
>> there a dream of multi-coloured world?
>> And what about dreams of h i/ and s i, who never hear voice?
>> So please, explain.
>> Friends, this query is based only for scientific level.
>> Thanks.
>> Bijal Patel.
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] configuring Gmail account in nokia E63

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Do the following:

1. Open messaging and mailbox. If no e-mail has been created, then it
will show as "mailbox new". That's the case with N97 and I believe
that it's same with E63.

2. If you are asked whether nokia exchange or e-mail, select option
two. Again it may not happen with E63.

3. Select the "existing e-mail account" option and hit ok.

4. Type your e-mail address. Note that the @ sign is there by default
you should either type around it or remove it and type the address
fresh.

5. Type the password.

6. While being asked to specify the server option, select imap.

7. After completing these steps, hit okay and you will be positioned
on the e-mail folder. While being asked: "connect to mail?" hit know.

8. Press option and go to e-mail settings. Make sure that the
following fields are correct: A. Incoming server: pop.gmail.com. B.
Outgoing server: imap.gmail.com. C. Specify your default internet
connection. D. Security: SSL/TLS. E. Leave the port by default.

9. If you want your name to appear on the from field instead of the
e-mail address, then go to user settings and type your name. There you
can also type-in your signature.

That's it and you should be good to go.

Vetri.

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> sure! you can contact me offlist
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> Mobile: 09915073368
> - Original Message -
> From: "RAJ VASWANI" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:16 PM
> Subject: [AI] configuring Gmail account in nokia E63
>
>
>> Hello all list members,
>>
>> Today I'd like to know that is it possible to configure our gmail account
>> in nokia E63?
>>
>> If yes, then how to fulfill this task?
>>
>> Would highly appreciate if the guidance is provided step by step to me.
>>
>> Thanks in anticipations,
>> RAJ VASWANI
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Re: [AI] Moderator: RE: Satanic verses

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Also, this e-mail was sent as a group e-mail which is the violation of
the list guidelines. So please do the needful.

Vetri.

On 25/01/2012, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Hello
>
> This thread is closed for traffic, then why is thread continuing.
>
> No more of this please.
> Harish Kotian
> Moderator
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Asudani, Rajesh [mailto:rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in]
> Sent: 25 January 2012 10:10
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Satanic verses
>
> I disagree.
> Though it did not impress me from narrative point of view, or unity of plot
> etc. I believe author is wanting to convey some thoughts and arguments of
> his, which as happens in  dreams and literary conventions, are disguised and
> sometimes changed beyond recognition and lend themselves to myriad
> interpretations...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sandeep Singh
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 7:09 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Satanic verses
>
> Hi friends,
> I have read this book and frankly speaking I really couldn't
> understand why the book was such a hit. It is a very distasteful book
> where the author has openly abused all and sundry, be it a certtain
> faith or the Indians at large or the englishmen. The only reason it
> must have been a rage could be because a fatwa was released in the
> name of the author.
> Regards,
> Sandeep
>
> At 05:10 PM 24-01-12, you wrote:
>>Hi Rajesh,
>>
>>Can you send it to me also? I would like to read it and understand what the
>>controversy is about.
>>
>>Rahul
>>
>>On 24 January 2012 17:00, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>>
>> > I can send you an average scan of the book, provided I am not pulled up
>> > for distributing the banned book by moderator or police, Smile
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
>> > accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ekinath ekinath
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 4:26 PM
>> > To: accessindia
>> > Subject: [AI] Satanic verses
>> >
>> > Hi friends,
>> >
>> > I wish to read or rather hear an audio book by Salman Rushdi "Satanic
>> > Verses", where can I get hold of it?
>> >
>> > Any free or paid services are welcome to be suggested.
>> >
>> > rgds
>> >
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Re: [AI] Accessibility features in iPad

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Not really. I have used and have known many using i-phone/i-pod
touch/i-pad. Vetri.

On 23/01/2012, Rakesh  wrote:
> iPad is more usable for persons with low vision and no vision. To know
> the features that help persons with disabilities in iPad can be observed
> in this blog
> http://accessibilityindia.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/accessibility-features-in-ipad/
> Regards
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Re: [AI] appealing to all

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

What I don't understand is: Why should a blind person always be
interesting to others? The more relevant question should be: How can a
visually challenged person lead a life without relying up on others to
a considerable extent? But I am sure that the subject crops-up on the
forum at various levels. In a word, we don't have to lead our life
just to make it interesting to others. Rather let's be concerned with
issues that are far more important to our community.

Vetri.

On 29/12/2011, Rohiet A. Patil  wrote:
> Before some days, I read it's marathi translation by Mr. Madhukar Mandlekar
> "maat andharavar". It's a very nice book. Nab india talking books library is
> having the same.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dinesh Kaushal" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] appealing to all
>
>
>> An interesting story is about a blind doctor.
>>
>> He became doctor around 100 years back, when there was no technology.
>>
>> The book name is The Blind Doctor - The Jacob Bolotin Story By Rosalin
>> Perlman
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of zoher
>> Sent: 29 December 2011 5:06 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] appealing to all
>>
>> do not overprojector underproject the picture of a blind character, and
>> try
>> to incert some funny aliment to story. as some funny insedence bound to
>> heppen in all of VI's life
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "avinash shahi" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 4:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] appealing to all
>>
>>
>> Shadab, you're mulling a nice idea
>> I Hope, whatever you venture wil prove to be paragon piece on living with
>> blindness.
>> further, a good writing is understood an outcome of varicious reading and
>> practical experience.
>> moreover, you can produce much self-contented piece if you instead of
>> capturing the likes of people primarily, you come up with your own
>> understanding of your story 'living with blindness.
>> and believe me, soonner than later, people will recognise your work with
>> throbing heart.
>> There is an old saying: "writing for one's pleasure brings out the best
>> out
>> of a writer."
>> you may always disagree.
>> Good luck,.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/29/11, Subramani L  wrote:
>>> Hai Shadab:
>>>
>>> It's nice to know about your enthusiasm to write about blindness.
>>> Unfortunately, few people have really tried describing what it is to
>>> live or experience life with blindness. As UNCRPD clearly says, this
>>> is the way you experience life, where the sense of touch and the
>>> feelings of your heart takes the place of seeing. A lot of my sighted
>>> colleagues and friends have told me that not seeing is sometimes a
>>> good thing. This is not a patronising statement, but a practical one
>>> wherein the person beside you is glad that you are not seeing the
>>> gory, heart renching things like an accident or a murder as they do.
>>> They can shut their eyes, but most people don't realise they have such
>>> an option. Well, I gave this example as to how experiences of seeing
>>> and feeling things can be different. The best thing to read is R. K.
>>> Narayan's profile of veteran VI journalist Ved Mehta. Actually Mehta
>>> profiled Narayan for the New Yorker magazine. So impressed was Narayan
>>> that he returned the favour by profiling Mehta for the same magazine I
>>> think. Pl do a google search on Ved Mehta. I heard his memoir is also
>>> said to be inspiring. Do a lot of reading before you venture to write.
>>> We have a funny saying about doctors in Tamil: a true doctor is one
>>> who had killed a thousand people... Same way if you kill a thousand
>>> characters and create a truely memorable one, you are a good writer.
>>> So all the best for your venture. Go ahead and write your epic.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Subramani
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/29/11, Swati Sinha  wrote:
 Hello,
 1) Beat the person has topped the school/ college/ X board/ XII board.
 2) He is the Highest scorer of any competitive exam.
 3) holds officer rank in his office.
 4) Participated in any sports on State/ National/ International level.

 Frankly speaking, the points that I mentioned are on practical grounds.
 The
 fact is all the work that a VI does is from his 4 senses only, and
 his work is equivalent to that of  the sighted people.

 For more information, you can read success stories of VI persons.
 The books are available at NAB and AICB.


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Re: [AI] Moderator: Re: How the National ID card will work....!!!

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Hi Harish,

Thanks for doing this and perhaps that's the only way of stopping some
people from forwarding unnecessary messages. Just a quick suggestion
though: Perhaps the same approach should be needed for people
intentionly bringing-in piracy on to the list.

Vetri.

On 12/12/2011, harish  wrote:
> All
>
> Henceforth, I shall not send separate mail for such off-topic mails. I shall
> be straight taking actions against them.
>
> Hence, not seeing mails from me should not be assumed that there is no
> control or monitoring or those folks are left scott free.
>
> Please don't participate in such conversations.
>
> Harish Kotian
> Moderator.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vikas Waghmare" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 4:52 PM
> Subject: [AI] How the National ID card will work!!!
>
>
>> Description: cid:1.158984011@web94607.mail.in2.yahoo.com
>>
>>  Operator : "Thank you for calling Pizza Hut . May I have
>> your..."
>>
>>  Customer: "Helloo, can I order..."
>>
>>  Operator : "Can I have your multi purpose ID card number
>> first, Sir?"
>>  Customer: "It's. he..
>> hold..on..889861356102049998-45-54610"
>>
>>  Operator : "OK... You're... Mr Singh and you're calling
>> from B-17, Jaya Babu Street.
>>  Your home number is 2x26, your
>> office 250x and your mobile is 09.
>>
>>  Which number are you calling from now
>> Sir?"
>>
>>  Customer: "Home! How did you get all my phone numbers?
>>  Operator : "We are connected to the system Sir !"
>>
>>  Customer: "May I order your Seafood Pizza..."
>>  Operator : "That's not a good idea Sir !"
>>
>>  Customer: "How come?"
>>  Operator : "According to your Medical Records, you have
>> high blood pressure and even higher cholesterol level Sir !"
>>
>>  Customer: "What ?... What do you recommend then ?"
>>  Operator : "Try our Low Fat Pizza. You'll like it "
>>
>>  Customer: "How do you know for sure ?"
>>  Operator : "You borrowed a book entitled "Popular
>> Dishes" from the National Library last week Sir !"
>>
>>  Customer: "OK I give up... Give me three family size
>> ones then, how much will that cost ?"
>>  Operator : "That should be enough for your family of 05,
>> Sir . The total is Rs 500.0"
>>
>>   Customer: "Can I pay by! Credit card?"
>>   Operator : "I'm afraid you have to pay us cash, Sir. Your
>> credit card is over the limit and you owe your bank Rs 23,000.75 since
>> October last year.
>>
>>   That's not including the late payment
>> charges on your housing loan, Sir..."
>>
>>  Customer: "I guess I have to run to the neighbourhood
>> ATM and withdraw some cash before your guy arrives "
>>  Operator : "You can't Sir. Based on the Records, you've
>> reached your daily limit on machine withdrawal today "
>>
>>  Customer: "Never mind just send the pizzas, I'll have
>> the cash ready. How long is it gonna take anyway ?"
>>  Operator : "About 45 minutes Sir, but if you can't wait
>> you can always come and collect it on your Nano Car"
>>  Customer: " What !!!"
>>  Operator : "According to the details in system ,you own
>> a Nano car..Registration Number GZ-05-AB-1107..."
>>  Customer: " ??? "
>>
>>  Operator : " Is there anything else Sir ? "
>>  Customer: "Nothing... By the way... Aren't you giving me
>> that 3 free bottles of cola as advertised?"
>>  Operator : "We normally would Sir, but based on your
>> records you're also diabetic... "
>>
>>  Customer: #$$^%& f***k $%
>>  Operator : "Better watch your language Sir... Remember
>> on 15th July 2011... you were convicted of using abusive language on a
>> policeman...?"
>>
>>  Customer: [Faints].!!!
>>
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Re: [AI] My experience with Ultrasonic glass

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Correct me if I am wrong, but as I understand, sparsh product is the
Indian retailer for the same product that we use. Second, the question
regarding power eye glasses is a very good question. Technically the
glass has nothing to do with the functioning of the device and maing
components of the device are actually implanted on the frame itself.
So you either can change lences yourself by taking to an optical shop
or make a special request to them mentioning your situation.

Vetri.

On 10/12/2011, mukesh jain  wrote:
> hello,
> is this the same product available with sparsh product as discussed
> here or its newly developed product by them.
> thanks,
> mukesh.
>
> On 10/8/11, Chetan Soni  wrote:
>> Hello Sir, You may contact the address pasted below.
>>
>> Sparsh Products
>> 151-5, Rajpur Road
>> Dehradun 248 001, India
>> Phone: +91 135-3299873
>> Ph/Fax: +91 135-2735011
>> Email: i...@sparshproducts.com
>> www.sparshproducts.com
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 7:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] My experience with Ultrasonic glass
>>
>>
>> is any supplier available in india?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:38 AM
>> Subject: [AI] My experience with Ultrasonic glass
>>
>>
>> I tried out the Ultrasonic glass today and here are my views:
>>
>> First, I have not yet tried out against new barriers and I have to see
>> how it works. Second, I am amazed to see my capacity to cross known
>> barriers without crashing on to them on a daily bases and the glass
>> actually made me feel how close they are. We visually challenged are
>> simply great! Third and this is something Austin didn’t mention, you
>> can actually feel whether the barrier is on your right or left or even
>> at the center and the glass in that way is very amazing. I guess I
>> will feel it’s maximum use when I stay in Chennai due to my lack of
>> familiarity of that city. Overall I would agree with Austin’s feedback
>> on the device and it’s the great supplement to mobility aids like
>> Cane, guide dogs etc. Remember that it is a supplement and not the
>> substitute. Unlike some crazy scientists of India, the producer of
>> this device is very clear on that.
>>
>> Vetri.
>>
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Re: [AI] Of disclosing 'disability' before marriage

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

It's much more than interesting. It's very important to be upfront
about and of course needless to say that parents need a bit of
convincing. It is our responsibility to convince them.

Vetri.

On 10/12/2011, B. R. Nautial  wrote:
> Really Interesting!
> B. R. Nautial
> - Original Message -
> From: "Shadab Husain" 
> To: "accessindia" ;
> 
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 4:03 PM
> Subject: [AI] Of disclosing 'disability' before marriage
>
>
> Of disclosing ‘disability’ before marriage
> There was a time when my mother and sister were searching a bride for
> me. I had insisted to have my visual ‘disability’ (as others call it)
> be totally disclosed. People initially showed interest and willingness
> in my proposal, but the moment my Retinitis Pigmentosa-caused
> blindness was disclosed, either they did not carry the issue further
> or politely tendered their refusals.
>
> My parents and sister used to feel sorry for this, and they found it
> difficult to tell me that I again am being refused for the fear that I
> will get disheartened. But I had not committed a guilty or shameful
> act due to which I was facing rejections, so I saw no reason to get
> disheartened. Indeed, the fact that people were interested in me until
> my blindness was disclosed was a positive point for me. I have not
> caused my blindness; it is caused due to reasons beyond my control,
> then why to feel sorry over it? Yet, I must confess that sometimes I
> used to feel dejected, but there was light at the end of the tunnel.
>
> We had a very old friendship with a family. They used to frequent us
> often, and once all of a sudden my mother kept my marriage proposal to
> them. They gladly agreed, the mother of my supposed wife merrily
> telling us “What is the use of asking? My daughter is yours, we know
> your son, he is our child, everything is settled.”
>
> Both the families came in the mood to have a great celebration.
> Marriage celebrations or their preparations seem to be so divine that
> we feel as if everyone, even our bloodthirsty enemies, are loving and
> blessing us in their hearts. The noteworthy thing was that we had
> visited each other so much that it was clear that they know about my
> blindness. Moreover, my sister too has RP, and they had helped her
> often. Yet my sight problem was impressed upon them. But they just did
> not listen to us and even told my sister not to talk about that issue
> again as if it was hurting them.
>
> Marriage is a big thing. Everything was clear but I felt some
> uneasiness and requested to talk with the girl because I did not want
> to take chances.
>
> We went to meet them. It turned out that they were not taking my sight
> problem seriously because they were thinking that I have enough sight
> to do my work on my own. For instance, they knew that I work on
> computers and move around the city and out of the city independently
> (at the time these talks were taking place I was out of station). But
> the astonishing thing was that they could not realise that in the
> course of time I have become blind.
>
> I told her mother point-blank: “I can only see light. I am looking
> towards your face because of your voice. I use screen reading
> technology to work on computers. And I use a cane when I walk alone. I
> cannot see.”
>
> She gave a pause. That pause clearly expressed that she was broken.
> (Later, I came to know from my mother that her hands were shaking at
> that time.) Then I talked with the girl who had already known about
> the new condition I was in. She sounded perplexed and disinclined.
>
> Their reaction, though, was normal. Anyone would have reacted in a
> similar manner after knowing about my blindness. My marriage date was
> to be fixed, but now they needed time and told us that they were
> unaware that I had lost my sight. I thought that the game was over.
>
> But I was wrong.
>
> Days passed. One good evening, the mother of the
> girl-who-could-be-my-wife came to our home and started showering
> praises on me. She talked to me in a tearfully sympathetic tone,
> though I had not needed it. Apologising from her expressions and tone,
> she told us that her daughter was not willing to marry me. I was
> thankful because if this condition had disclosed after marriage, I
> would have been in great trouble.
>
> At my home, I gave a small party to my friends, and called it ‘In the
> name of my cancelled marriage’! It was meant to truly celebrate life;
> it was not one of those Bollywood parties in which bottles are
> uncorked, there is false enjoyment all around, and the main character
> ineptly tries to forget his grief in the make-believe. Thankfully, we
> really enjoyed our party, and since my room is quite separated, we
> made a lot of noise until the early hours of the morning.
>
> Days passed. Wham! The mother of   the girl-who-could-be-my-wife told
> us that her daughter wants to marry me! She was deeply moved by that
> honesty stuff. Earlier too, that delicate

Re: [AI] Internet Explorer 9 and JAWS 13

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Well I had issues in accessing my college e-mail page with IE9 and
henceforth forced my school to revert back to IE8. I still have JAWS
12 and am not sure if it has improved with JAWS 13.

Vetri.

On 09/12/2011, Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala  wrote:
> Yes! I've used IE9 with JAWS 12 & am using it with JAWS 13 on a Vista
> system.
>
> On 12/9/11, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>> Folks,
>> How far internet explorer 9 is compatible with JAWS 13? Can one take a
>> chance to upgrade to IE 9 if JAWS 13 is installed on a system with Win7
>> ultimate edition?
>>
>> Vikas Kapoor,
>> MSN Id: dl_vi...@hotmail.com, Yahoo&Skype Id: dl_vikas,
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Re: [AI] My experience with Ultrasonic glass

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

That's not my experience since I am almost 5.11. for example, it does
not detect cars as quickly as it detects a bus.

On 09/12/2011, manoj cherian  wrote:
> On 12/9/11, Geetha Shamanna  wrote:
>> The glasses don't come in different sizes unfortunately. I could barely
>> keep
>> them upright on my face and had to continuously push them up when I tried
>> them at the RNIB. Also, the glasses are really thick with a rather heavy
>> frame.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Adhimoolam
>> Vetrivel Murugan
>> Sent: 09 December 2011 11:28
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] My experience with Ultrasonic glass
>>
>> They are just like regular glasses. To me it's okay because of the size of
>> my head, but if you are small then it may look slightly big.
>> You'll have to ask them if they come in different sizes, but my sixth
>> sense
>> tells me that no.
>>
>> Vetri.
>>
>> On 09/12/2011, Srikanth Kanuri  wrote:
>>> Hi, those are good observations, hope it may be available at Techshare
>>> in Feb as RNIB is participating. hope they have a stall there and hope
>>> i could buy them.
>>>
>>> On 12/9/11, Prof S. R. Mittal  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> MittalYes. I hope Sparsh products i...@sparshproducts.com supplies
>>>> this device.
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
>>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of BHAWANI
>>>> SHANKAR VERMA
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 7:53 AM
>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] My experience with Ultrasonic glass
>>>>
>>>> is any supplier available in india?
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:38 AM
>>>> Subject: [AI] My experience with Ultrasonic glass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I tried out the Ultrasonic glass today and here are my views:
>>>>
>>>> First, I have not yet tried out against new barriers and I have to
>>>> see how it works. Second, I am amazed to see my capacity to cross
>>>> known barriers without crashing on to them on a daily bases and the
>>>> glass actually made me feel how close they are. We visually
>>>> challenged are simply great! Third and this is something Austin
>>>> didn't mention, you can actually feel whether the barrier is on your
>>>> right or left or even at the center and the glass in that way is very
>>>> amazing. I guess I will feel it's maximum use when I stay in Chennai
>>>> due to my lack of familiarity of that city. Overall I would agree
>>>> with Austin's feedback on the device and it's the great supplement to
>>>> mobility aids like Cane, guide dogs etc. Remember that it is a
>>>> supplement and not the substitute. Unlike some crazy scientists of
>>>> India, the producer of this device is very clear on that.
>>>>
>>>> Vetri.
>>>>
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