[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload- session ontactile 3d paintings by Aishwaria Pillai

[harish kotian]

Hi

Aishwaria Pillai shares her techniques on making paintings. Although 
this presentation was scheduled and could not take place we are happy to 
share it here.


The URL for the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Its direct url is:

www.youtube.com

3D painting-Aishwarya Pillai <#>

Aishwarya Pillai describes the process on how she goes about making 3D 
paintings .


🔗 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x6_u60FizM 




Harish Kotian


On 10/04/2023 10:26, Harish Kotian wrote:

All
Dr. Priti Sharma walks us through a session of yoga.


I have now uploaded the fifth video from the AI convention.


The link to the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India




direct link of the video:https://youtu.be/2IgN_braWZ8






Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo 
in conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of 
the convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at 
the convention.


Harish Kotian





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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload- session on creative writing doable career optionShadab Husain

[harish kotian]

Hi

Shadab Husain shares with us the process of creative writing and 
publishing books. We also have his book launch.




The link to the channel is:

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Direct url:

🔗 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyyPG4nygqQ 











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Harish Kotian


On 10/04/2023 10:26, Harish Kotian wrote:

All
Dr. Priti Sharma walks us through a session of yoga.


I have now uploaded the fifth video from the AI convention.


The link to the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India




direct link of the video:https://youtu.be/2IgN_braWZ8






Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo 
in conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at 
the convention.


Harish Kotian





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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload- session on IAS a doable career option Ajay Arora

[harish kotian]

Hi

A highly inspiring talk by Ajay Arora who is doing great as an IAS 
officer. He is totally blind and he convinces anyone listening to this 
talk that IAS although being the most prestigious job, it can also be 
successfully carried out by a blind person. This is a must watch video 
from the convention for all the members of AccessIndia



The link to the channel is:


https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India


Direct url:






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsiXHT38a34 









Regards

Harish Kotian


On 10/04/2023 10:26, Harish Kotian wrote:

All
Dr. Priti Sharma walks us through a session of yoga.


I have now uploaded the fifth video from the AI convention.


The link to the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India




direct link of the video:https://youtu.be/2IgN_braWZ8






Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo in 
conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at 
the convention.


Harish Kotian





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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload- session on Dr. Charudutta Jadav

[Harish Kotian]

Hi

This time we dive into the life of Dr. Charudutta Jadav who has been a 
source of inspiration in reaching great heights despite loosing his sight.



The link to the channel is:


https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India


Direct url:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77hLKwlJWck&t=1s





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Harish Kotian


On 10/04/2023 10:26, Harish Kotian wrote:

All
Dr. Priti Sharma walks us through a session of yoga.


I have now uploaded the fifth video from the AI convention.


The link to the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India




direct link of the video:https://youtu.be/2IgN_braWZ8






Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo in 
conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at 
the convention.


Harish Kotian





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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload- session on RPD

[Harish Kotian]

Hi

Mission Accessibility team's panel discussion on The RPD generation.

A enthralling discussion touching various aspects of the RPD and how to 
take benefit of it. Rajesh Asudani joins in the Q&A


A must watch for all interested parties.

The link to the channel is:


https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India



Direct url:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsIyKv2kJzc

This is the 6th video on the AccessIndia convention.


Regards

Harish Kotian


On 10/04/2023 10:26, Harish Kotian wrote:

All
Dr. Priti Sharma walks us through a session of yoga.


I have now uploaded the fifth video from the AI convention.


The link to the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India




direct link of the video:https://youtu.be/2IgN_braWZ8






Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo in 
conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at the 
convention.


Harish Kotian





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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload- session on yoga for the visually disabled

[Harish Kotian]

All
Dr. Priti Sharma walks us through a session of yoga.


I have now uploaded the fifth video from the AI convention.


The link to the channel is:

https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India




direct link of the video:https://youtu.be/2IgN_braWZ8






Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo in 
conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at the 
convention.


Harish Kotian





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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload- session on entrepreneur being visually disabled

[Harish Kotian]

All


I have now uploaded the 4th video from the AI convention.

panel Moderator – Preetham Sunkavalli , Panelist- Sushmeetha Bubna, 
Gaurav Godbole Paresh Satra

Ankur Kankonkar


Presently there is a thread going on the same topic

The link to the channel is:


https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India




direct link of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKd88DacZ04


Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo in 
conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at the 
convention.


Harish Kotian





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RE: [AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload

[prashant.rv]

Dear Harish,

Probably I forgot to give you the link to the video I created for my session.

You can insert the below link to AccessIndia YouTube page.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwaMPZ_qM7M 

 

thanks,

Prashant 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Harish Kotian
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 10:25 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload

 

All 

I have now uploaded the 3rd video from the AI convention this morning.

Hetal Mehta, a dietitian, walks us through leading a healthy lifestyle.

 

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

 

Regards

Harish Kotian

 

On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:

Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo in conversation 
with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme "TRANSFORMATION THROUGH 
CONSOLIDATION"

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian

 

On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:

All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the convention.

I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at the convention.

Harish Kotian

 

 

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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload

[Harish Kotian]

All

I have now uploaded the 3rd video from the AI convention this morning.

Hetal Mehta, a dietitian, walks us through leading a healthy lifestyle.


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India


Regards

Harish Kotian


On 03/03/2023 22:43, Harish Kotian wrote:


Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo in 
conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at the 
convention.


Harish Kotian





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[AI] AccessIndia convention recording upload

[Harish Kotian]

Hi

Today I uploaded the second video on Major General Ian Cardozo in 
conversation with Kanchan Pamnani on the convention theme 
"TRANSFORMATION THROUGH CONSOLIDATION"


 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

Harish Kotian


On 25/02/2023 18:57, Harish Kotian wrote:


All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the 
convention.


I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at the 
convention.


Harish Kotian





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[AI] AccessIndia convention recordings

[Harish Kotian]

All

As requested, we were able to get some of the recordings of the convention.

I shall keep posting at the convention playlist on Youtube.

 The link is:https://www.youtube.com/@Access_India

The first video is about Kiran Kaja introducing AccessIndia at the 
convention.


Harish Kotian


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RE: [AI] AccessIndia convention 2023

[Pranav Lal]

Hi Bharath,

This depends on the terrace. What kind of house do you live in? 

Can't you use your cane to find the door? 

There is technology that can help you, but I need to know more about your 
particular situation. Does the terrace have only one entry and or  exit?

Pranav

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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention 2023

[Bharat Subbarao]

Hi Harish Sir and Kanchan Madam,
The Access India Convention was nice.
I enjoyed it very much even though I did not ask any question over there.
I was unable to attend the purple fest as I was coming back to
Bangalore on 7th jan.
At the convention some person told that walking on the terrace on the
morning is good.
I am able to go to the terrace for the walk but I find it difficult to
come down as I am unable to find the stairs.
I would like to know if smart glasses will help me as I have only
light perception.
I shall be thankful and grateful for your help and advice in advance.
Regards
Bharath
Mob-8748912832





On 1/9/23, Harish Kotian  wrote:
> Hi
>
> Yes, we will keep the list informed as and when we keep uploading them.
>
> Harish Kotian
>
>
> On 07/01/2023 12:23, DINESH THOLE wrote:
>> Hello sir
>> If available, can we get the recordings of the sessions?
>> Thanks and regards
>> Dinesh Thole
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 07-Jan-2023, at 9:15 AM, Harish Kotian  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> All
>>>
>>> I would like to extend my sincere thanks to all the participants,
>>> presenters, volunteers  and of course Kanchan who ensured the show
>>> went impeccably. She gave me solid support in every stage organizing
>>> this event.
>>>
>>>  Taha and his wonderful team made the convention simply memorable.
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone once again.
>>>
>>> Harish Kotian
>>>
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention 2023

[Harish Kotian]

Hi

Yes, we will keep the list informed as and when we keep uploading them.

Harish Kotian


On 07/01/2023 12:23, DINESH THOLE wrote:

Hello sir
If available, can we get the recordings of the sessions?
Thanks and regards
Dinesh Thole

Sent from my iPhone


On 07-Jan-2023, at 9:15 AM, Harish Kotian  wrote:



All

I would like to extend my sincere thanks to all the participants, 
presenters, volunteers  and of course Kanchan who ensured the show 
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 Taha and his wonderful team made the convention simply memorable.

Thanks everyone once again.

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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention 2023

[DINESH THOLE]

Hello sirIf available, can we get the recordings of the sessions?Thanks and regardsDinesh TholeSent from my iPhoneOn 07-Jan-2023, at 9:15 AM, Harish Kotian  wrote:

  
  
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  presenters, volunteers  and of course Kanchan who ensured the show
  went impeccably. She gave me solid support in every stage
  organizing this event.  

 Taha and his wonderful team made the convention simply
  memorable.  

Thanks everyone once again.
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[AI] AccessIndia convention 2023

[Harish Kotian]

All

I would like to extend my sincere thanks to all the participants, 
presenters, volunteers  and of course Kanchan who ensured the show went 
impeccably. She gave me solid support in every stage organizing this event.


 Taha and his wonderful team made the convention simply memorable.

Thanks everyone once again.

Harish Kotian

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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention address and GPS location

[ganesh reddy]

Very good evening. I am Ganesh from Hyderabad.

Are you planning to record the AccessIndia convention sessions?



On 12/23/22, Harish Kotian  wrote:
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>
> Please share this on all the groups for those attending the convention.
>
>
>
>
> Manohar parrikar memorial hall,  Sanjay Center for Special Education,
> Porvorim, Goa. 403521.
>
> Sanjay School
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[AI] AccessIndia convention address and GPS location

[Harish Kotian]

All

Please share this on all the groups for those attending the convention.




Manohar parrikar memorial hall,  Sanjay Center for Special Education, 
Porvorim, Goa. 403521.


Sanjay School
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[AI] Accessindia convention

[Siva Suresh]

Hello all.
I am Shivasuresh from Andra.
I would like to connect with people who are traveling from Telangana
and Andra Pradesh to attend accessindia convention. Please let me know
if there is any WhatsApp group to discuss the travel or you can call
me on the number given at the end of this mail. We all can have a good
trip together. we can request Harish if any support required.
Thank you

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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[nitesh gupta]

Personly i also feel, taking fee was an appropriate move.

Without taking any fee, i anticipate the situation may be bad.
 anybody would have come just for good food and so on, it might have
created mismanagement. Ultimately a collapse of event.

On 2/20/14, Mukesh Sharma  wrote:
> Let's stop this. If there is a deficit of funds, I would request the
> organizer to let us know so some of us may contribute. I won't mind giving
> some amount to Score Foundation, they are anyway doing a great job.
>
> I am from those, who benefitted from the recording of the convention and
> always wished to meet AI friends in such convention but always missed due to
>
> prescheduled responsibilities.
>
> There is nothing free in this world, what you get for free, remember some
> one is paying for it, it's all about when we become capable of paying for
> our self. There are 2 sides of each coin here, one is giver and one is taker
>
> and believe it or not, at some point every one of us have been in both side.
>
> The real question, is what side we wish to choose for most of the time,
> after all none is permanent.
>
> If asking for money on streets is begging, then asking for sponsorship is
> more or less equal to that with only one difference, when we are sponsored,
>
> we owe and show our gratitude to the sponsor and the sponsor do that because
>
> he see a cause in that, let's not break that soft line, else there will be
> no real difference in begging and sponsoring.
>
> As far as fee is concerned, remember there are knowledge sharing / social
> networking events / conventions / exhibitions, for free and for a start of
> Rs. 50 to  5, 000, pounds may be higher. Just to give you some example,
> CSUN, ATIA, Google IO etc.
>
> If a fee is there, everyone should pay to participate, no question on that.
>
> Publically criticizing the defaulter is no bad thing, they should be made to
>
> feel shame.
>
> Rs. 500 may be a big amount for some of us (remember some of us, I
> completely agree on that) but those members had the option to ask for help
> from the organizer and people like Prashant sir (I respect him a lot for his
>
> generous attitude) offered sponsorship, the option could have been used.
>
>
> Thanks
> Mukesh
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ketan Kothari
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:32 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> I am writing here as representative of one of the sponsor
> organizations:  I think that not only we should be paying the small
> token amount that was charged but should not be arguing upon this.
>
> I am afraid NGO bashing does not take us very far.  Also, let me be
> clear:  we called this event as "convention" for lack of a better word
> but one of the purpose was also socializing which is not free.
>
> Nilima, although I fully sympathize where you are coming from, I don't
> think anyone who was present there came from such difficult
> background.  We cannot expect to get everything free of cost.
>
> I am shocked at the fact that some people are justifying this kind of
> behavour.  On the contrary if we know about such people who are
> working in reputed posts and earning good salaries, we should try and
> discourage such individuals and try and boycot them.
>
> Anyway, this shows where we are and then we also want everything
> rightsbased and claim that we are not for charity.
>
> Great friends, please do introspect.
>
> On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>> All
>>
>> This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back home
>> after this event.
>>
>> Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to
>> see
>> the delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the audotorium.
>>
>> I
>> guess the purpose of this convention got largely achieved.
>>
>> I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care to
>> make the stay comfortable and to put the logistics in place. I do express
>>
>> my
>> satisfaction with the presentation and the rich hue of topics which got
>> touched in these two days.
>>
>> I saw a lot of bonding and strengthen friendships in these last 2 days.
>> This
>> is really my yardstick to look at the convention.
>>
>> What made me very upset that, I was told, some persons had not paid up
>> for
>> the convention and sneaked in to the various events. This is not right at
>> all. I take it on myself, that, we haven't been able to raise above such
>>

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Mukesh Sharma]

Let's stop this. If there is a deficit of funds, I would request the 
organizer to let us know so some of us may contribute. I won't mind giving 
some amount to Score Foundation, they are anyway doing a great job.


I am from those, who benefitted from the recording of the convention and 
always wished to meet AI friends in such convention but always missed due to 
prescheduled responsibilities.


There is nothing free in this world, what you get for free, remember some 
one is paying for it, it's all about when we become capable of paying for 
our self. There are 2 sides of each coin here, one is giver and one is taker 
and believe it or not, at some point every one of us have been in both side. 
The real question, is what side we wish to choose for most of the time, 
after all none is permanent.


If asking for money on streets is begging, then asking for sponsorship is 
more or less equal to that with only one difference, when we are sponsored, 
we owe and show our gratitude to the sponsor and the sponsor do that because 
he see a cause in that, let's not break that soft line, else there will be 
no real difference in begging and sponsoring.


As far as fee is concerned, remember there are knowledge sharing / social 
networking events / conventions / exhibitions, for free and for a start of 
Rs. 50 to  5, 000, pounds may be higher. Just to give you some example, 
CSUN, ATIA, Google IO etc.


If a fee is there, everyone should pay to participate, no question on that. 
Publically criticizing the defaulter is no bad thing, they should be made to 
feel shame.


Rs. 500 may be a big amount for some of us (remember some of us, I 
completely agree on that) but those members had the option to ask for help 
from the organizer and people like Prashant sir (I respect him a lot for his 
generous attitude) offered sponsorship, the option could have been used.



Thanks
Mukesh


-Original Message- 
From: Ketan Kothari

Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:32 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled.

Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

Dear Friends,

I am writing here as representative of one of the sponsor
organizations:  I think that not only we should be paying the small
token amount that was charged but should not be arguing upon this.

I am afraid NGO bashing does not take us very far.  Also, let me be
clear:  we called this event as "convention" for lack of a better word
but one of the purpose was also socializing which is not free.

Nilima, although I fully sympathize where you are coming from, I don't
think anyone who was present there came from such difficult
background.  We cannot expect to get everything free of cost.

I am shocked at the fact that some people are justifying this kind of
behavour.  On the contrary if we know about such people who are
working in reputed posts and earning good salaries, we should try and
discourage such individuals and try and boycot them.

Anyway, this shows where we are and then we also want everything
rightsbased and claim that we are not for charity.

Great friends, please do introspect.

On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:

All

This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back home
after this event.

Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to 
see
the delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the audotorium. 
I

guess the purpose of this convention got largely achieved.

I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care to
make the stay comfortable and to put the logistics in place. I do express 
my

satisfaction with the presentation and the rich hue of topics which got
touched in these two days.

I saw a lot of bonding and strengthen friendships in these last 2 days. 
This

is really my yardstick to look at the convention.

What made me very upset that, I was told, some persons had not paid up for
the convention and sneaked in to the various events. This is not right at
all. I take it on myself, that, we haven't been able to raise above such
trifle slips. Such folks are a blot to the community. What they don't
realise that, these things also come into notice and gives reason to think
ill about us. Each one of us are ambassadors in their own rights.

I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he 
would

sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined but did not
have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer. Then, why this
indulgence?

Well, friends thanks for all those who put small and big efforts and all 
the

delegates who came along from many states of the country.It was nice to be
with each one of you.
Warmly
Harish Kotian.




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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Ketan Kothari]

Dear Friends,

I am writing here as representative of one of the sponsor
organizations:  I think that not only we should be paying the small
token amount that was charged but should not be arguing upon this.

I am afraid NGO bashing does not take us very far.  Also, let me be
clear:  we called this event as "convention" for lack of a better word
but one of the purpose was also socializing which is not free.

Nilima, although I fully sympathize where you are coming from, I don't
think anyone who was present there came from such difficult
background.  We cannot expect to get everything free of cost.

I am shocked at the fact that some people are justifying this kind of
behavour.  On the contrary if we know about such people who are
working in reputed posts and earning good salaries, we should try and
discourage such individuals and try and boycot them.

Anyway, this shows where we are and then we also want everything
rightsbased and claim that we are not for charity.

Great friends, please do introspect.

On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> All
>
> This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back home
> after this event.
>
> Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to see
> the delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the audotorium. I
> guess the purpose of this convention got largely achieved.
>
> I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care to
> make the stay comfortable and to put the logistics in place. I do express my
> satisfaction with the presentation and the rich hue of topics which got
> touched in these two days.
>
> I saw a lot of bonding and strengthen friendships in these last 2 days. This
> is really my yardstick to look at the convention.
>
> What made me very upset that, I was told, some persons had not paid up for
> the convention and sneaked in to the various events. This is not right at
> all. I take it on myself, that, we haven't been able to raise above such
> trifle slips. Such folks are a blot to the community. What they don't
> realise that, these things also come into notice and gives reason to think
> ill about us. Each one of us are ambassadors in their own rights.
>
> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he would
> sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined but did not
> have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer. Then, why this
> indulgence?
>
> Well, friends thanks for all those who put small and big efforts and all the
> delegates who came along from many states of the country.It was nice to be
> with each one of you.
> Warmly
> Harish Kotian.
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Asudani, Rajesh]

I had thought of not interfering in this debate.
However, must say the following:
Organizing any event of a kind as AI convention does involve a lot of efforts, 
coordination and selfless service by a host of persons which they have done, 
and I am thankful to them immensely.

1. Paying some registration  fee for the event by blind is not a problem.
2. However, in AI convention, if one considers registration and making one's 
own stay arrangements, the sum was on a bit higher side.
3. Still most of us are in a position to do so, and no excuse is tenable for 
not doing so, when some kind of sponsorship was also announced.
4. However, use of words like "Begging bowl" generally for blind community are 
indefensible, particularly when  most of the participants had duly paid up. We 
cannot brand a community for a fault of a few. So, I frankly opine that our 
moderator should have raised the issue but not in such a generalized and harsh 
manner.
5. Dear Rahul, please consider your assertion, I am quoting:

"Forgive me if I'm being rude, but  it is on account of such a fickle mindset 
that we always keep asking for reservation instead of improving our skills and 
competence."

Now, please understand that a large chunk of blind persons are not at all 
privileged and have not got even the basic things of life, materially, as well 
as psychologically.
So. please do not think reservation for them, a pittence as it is, is some kind 
of charity.
It is rightful for a community who is one of the most backward to have some 
sort of claim on the public goods.
I am really disappointed at such a comment by a young and budding lawyer.
Please rethink your stand...





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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:28 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

It's sad that people are trying to defend the indefensible. We are making a 
mountain out of a mole hill. The comment about impoverished blind people not 
being able to pay 500 rupees is laughable to say the least. All those who are a 
part of the AI list at least have a computer or a mobile phone.
 So, I find it hard to believe that such people would have to run from pillar 
to post to accumulate 500 rupees.
 We always keep harping  about the fact that we deserve empathy and not   
sympathy.
 This is precisely the reason why most people view us as mere objects of 
charity and sympathy.
Forgive me if I'm being rude, but  it is on account of such a fickle mindset 
that we always keep asking for reservation instead of improving our skills and 
competence.


> On Feb 18, 2014, at 3:42 PM, avinash shahi  wrote:
>
> I think discussion should not rest on JNU. It is not a centre of
> discussion. if I give figures then many would write back alleging me
> defending to the core...
> But from Sonia's National Advisory Council to Planning Commission,
> From mainstream print and electronic media to secretaries positions,
> and from Well-known Universities to many Ambacies in the world JNUites
> are well placed.
> Hope people don't ask anymore questions writing my name, I have
> already made clear my point on money issue.
>> On 2/18/14, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:
>> Dear List Members,
>>
>> Quite amused to see the theme of the discussion.
>>
>> Dear Avinash,
>> The state or any organiser simply can not print notes or plead for
>> sponsorships. The models be it organisational or economic are bound to
>> fail due to inefficiencies if they are not based on revenue driving
>> philosopy. When i had come to JNU and seen people enjoying free
>> delicacies and ending the seminar with out any clear results achieved,
>> i was made to think that in Mumbai even students and for that matter
>> anything that we do, we have to pay through our noses.
>>
>> Universities like JNU receives a grant as they deserve, but what does
>> it offer in return to the nation?
>> How many research papers are implemented in mainstream public affairs,
>> which have changed the development landscape as desired by so called
>> scholars? You can certainly sensitize us.
>> I am not sure if the university rankings are done on that basis. It
>> must be on number of research papers and not their quality, therefore,
>> not even a single Indian university ranks amongst top 200 universities
>> around the world.
>>
>> Talking about "begging bowl" mindset, that's the biggest problem in
>> our society. We would love to call us honourable, but we would not
>> think twice to lay down most important right of of voting for a bottle
>> of liquor or 2 rupees a kg grains. That&#

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[harish]

All
May we please, close this thread. It is loosing its intended purpose.

Harish Kotian


- Original Message - 
From: "Amit Bhatt" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention



Dear George Sir,

When I gave my opinion in my earlier mail about proper fund not being
utilized by a few organizations, I also stated there are still some
NGO's doing good work for the disabled or disadvantaged people. I know
Score foundation very well and you believe me or not, I always
appreciate the work and activities being performed by Score
Foundation, and I also shown my appreciation to everyone including
Score Foundation at the bottom of my earlier communication, then you
shouldn't  have taken it to heart of Score Foundation. Never the less,
I never ever took any particular name of an NGO.
As far as nazariya or vision of the people is concerned, the NGO's and
the blind people, both will work and I agree that life does not stop
here.
Like perhaps you didn't like my critics against NGO's, similarly I
also didn't  like unnecessary remark given to the entire blind
community in the name of bagging and anticipating things free of cost.
AS simple as that.
Sir, I am sure you would have read my entire mail comprehensively and
I also said that submitting the registration fee is necessary and all
should do this. My only concern was with those people who unneceesary
blame the blind for this and that. Bad or good human being are found
every where on this earth.

Thanks,

Amit Bhatt
On 2/19/14, George Abraham  wrote:

Dear Amit,

I read your mail. I would like to state the following:

1. Score Foundation does not get funds from  the Govt and as you have
accused we do not misuse or abuse the funds we raise. We raise funds with
difficulty and use it in a manner we feel right. I do not take kindly to
the NGO bashing you have resorted to in your mail.

2. There was a registration desk at the venue on both daySo let us not 
make

an issue about it.

  3. If Avinash has not received or taken any momento from the 
convention,

that is true of me too.

Well I would like to thank Avinash to have raised this registration fee
issue which resulted in this exhaustive debate. It is for each of us to
take our own learnings from it.

No heart feelings as far as I am concerned. Life will move on and our 
work

will continue irrespective of people's Nazariya about NGOs.

Best,

George




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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Amit Bhatt]

Dear George Sir,

When I gave my opinion in my earlier mail about proper fund not being
utilized by a few organizations, I also stated there are still some
NGO's doing good work for the disabled or disadvantaged people. I know
Score foundation very well and you believe me or not, I always
appreciate the work and activities being performed by Score
Foundation, and I also shown my appreciation to everyone including
Score Foundation at the bottom of my earlier communication, then you
shouldn't  have taken it to heart of Score Foundation. Never the less,
I never ever took any particular name of an NGO.
As far as nazariya or vision of the people is concerned, the NGO's and
the blind people, both will work and I agree that life does not stop
here.
Like perhaps you didn't like my critics against NGO's, similarly I
also didn't  like unnecessary remark given to the entire blind
community in the name of bagging and anticipating things free of cost.
AS simple as that.
Sir, I am sure you would have read my entire mail comprehensively and
I also said that submitting the registration fee is necessary and all
should do this. My only concern was with those people who unneceesary
blame the blind for this and that. Bad or good human being are found
every where on this earth.

Thanks,

Amit Bhatt
On 2/19/14, George Abraham  wrote:
> Dear Amit,
>
> I read your mail. I would like to state the following:
>
> 1. Score Foundation does not get funds from  the Govt and as you have
> accused we do not misuse or abuse the funds we raise. We raise funds with
> difficulty and use it in a manner we feel right. I do not take kindly to
> the NGO bashing you have resorted to in your mail.
>
> 2. There was a registration desk at the venue on both daySo let us not make
> an issue about it.
>
>   3. If Avinash has not received or taken any momento from the convention,
> that is true of me too.
>
> Well I would like to thank Avinash to have raised this registration fee
> issue which resulted in this exhaustive debate. It is for each of us to
> take our own learnings from it.
>
> No heart feelings as far as I am concerned. Life will move on and our work
> will continue irrespective of people's Nazariya about NGOs.
>
> Best,
>
> George
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Sucharu Gupta]

Hi all,
Though I neither attended the convention nor find myself capable enough to
comment about this topic,but would like to share my point:
Is not to attach every issue with blindness orsighted in itself ,a
certification to the inferiority complex we cling to.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 2:19 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

Thank you Amitji for highlighting critical concerns related to the
Convention gone by

I'm dazed by some of the responses reffering my comment charity equals
blindness and poverty. If you analyse some of the comments which are visible
on Google search engin as well, undoubtedly many may conclude, look how
middle-class  english -read blind people discuss about their fellow beings
who don't have money, Because they were not born in a family where parants
could support them. I strongly clung to my determination and vision for
greater inclusion of those who experience exclusion merely on ground of
being unable to pay.

Let me analyse some of the comments one by one in my response to this thread
which has stretched longer unnecessarily me thinks. As Mr Amit already
pointed out linguistic expression has been used irresponsibly.
AI Moderator wrote on 21st January 2014
block quote
On our side, the registration charge was reduced, the topics have been set
by members and now the agenda is also available. The online registration is
just about 42 and registration amount is  received from only 15 members. At
this rate, I am afraid, it makes no sense organising a huge event like this.
We are giving a last attempt and you may consider an ultimatum.
block quote end
visit:
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/11mepob4iwn65/?&v=c&s=q&q=Ultimatum+&th=1
43bd7a4fcbc8e5a
Ultimatum? to whom? Probably low-turn out is the outcome of such ultimatum.

Mr Srinivasu Chakravarthula writes
block quote
BTW, if you say knowledge should be fee, no school / collage or university
should charge tuition fee from anyone.
block quote end
Sir, tuition classes are afforded by who? , its crude business in smaller
cities don't you think so? And it has become a fassion these days. for
obtaining knowledge/skills one doesn't need tuition necessairily.

Mr Ekinath writes
block quote
As per this specific case, if the consideration was made for non-earning
students then how many of them approached the organisers for a leeway?
Were they serious about attaining Gyan in the confrance?
block quote end
Mr Ekinath, acquisition of knowledge doesn't require money in principle,
unfortunately market forces have influenced the thinking of many here. If
this would have been the case, we would not had Poet like Soordas and
Milton.

Mr Rahul Bajaj writes
block quote
impoverished blind people not being able to pay 500 rupees is laughable to
say the least. All those who are a part of the AI list at least have a
computer or a mobile phone.
block quote end
FYI, I don't have internet connection in my room, hope this suffice well.
And we don't know how many use from their colleges, libraries.
and who knows from Cybercafes?

 Prashant sir writes
block quote
It seems that self sustainability of any project is not really possible in
the VI community.
block quote end
Very much possible, the Inclusive Planet was one of the prominent platform
which facilitated sharing of books to many places to blind people who didn't
know from where to arrange books. I myself shared more than 15 hundred books
from my computer and JNU library to blind fellow beings.
And as far as NGOs in general are concerned, to say the least, CAG should
audit them. And what if proposed NCPd should moniter their activities also?
but alas private players are free to spread discrimination and not made
accountable in RPD Bill.
And as per the last year's company act, in majority of cases, 2 per cent
spending by companies for CSR again will be on charity model at large.

Bijoy writes
block quote
Demanding rights is not begging, but expecting to get everything free of
cost because of blindness definitely is a beggar's attitude.
block quote end
All individuals love to live dignified life. And nowhere I hinted that
everything should be free to blind people.
Regards
 On 2/19/14, Amit Bhatt  wrote:
> Friends,
>
> Though I could not make my presence in the 4th convention of 
> Accesindia group this time, and thus I don't deem myself to be 
> entitled to give my comment on the current thread, however,  I thought 
> to put my view across after following this discussion on the board.
>
> I have also been organizing such events and seminars since last 7-8 
> years and yes, undeniably it is not an easy chore to make the 
> arrangement without getting the full cooperation from 

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[George Abraham]

Dear Amit,

I read your mail. I would like to state the following:

1. Score Foundation does not get funds from  the Govt and as you have
accused we do not misuse or abuse the funds we raise. We raise funds with
difficulty and use it in a manner we feel right. I do not take kindly to
the NGO bashing you have resorted to in your mail.

2. There was a registration desk at the venue on both daySo let us not make
an issue about it.

  3. If Avinash has not received or taken any momento from the convention,
that is true of me too. 

Well I would like to thank Avinash to have raised this registration fee
issue which resulted in this exhaustive debate. It is for each of us to
take our own learnings from it.

No heart feelings as far as I am concerned. Life will move on and our work
will continue irrespective of people's Nazariya about NGOs.

Best,

George




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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Nikita Jain]

. Knowledge Dissimination on Internet for free is picking
> >>>>>>>> momentum and being in one of the poorest countries, we should
> >>>>>>>> support
> >>>>>>>> such movements. Cambridge and Oxford Universities have already
> >>>>>>>> started
> >>>>>>>> circulating their lectures for free on Youtube.
> >>>>>>>> And HereI should inform you sir. In Jawaharlal Nehru University
> >>>>>>>> Which
> >>>>>>>> is buzz with talks and seminars, No student ever pays for
> attending
> >>>>>>>> any confrence and outsiders are equally invited. State is bound to
> >>>>>>>> release financial outlay to be invested for
> >>>>>>>> confrences/seminars/conventions.
> >>>>>>>> I will be a faculty in one or the other universities for sure. But
> >>>>>>>> state will take care of my needs but economically modest Students
> >>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>> not be burdened to pay.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And Harish Sir Sorry to read from you
> >>>>>>>> block quote
> >>>>>>>> We must rise above the begging bowl mindset
> >>>>>>>> block quote end
> >>>>>>>> Please you being the moderator of a reputed mailing list such
> >>>>>>>> written
> >>>>>>>> expression is unwarranted.
> >>>>>>>> Who beggs is very subjective notion, those who demand rights from
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> state? or those who find money from corporates which covertly
> drive
> >>>>>>>> where it is to be invested.
> >>>>>>>>> On 2/18/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Dear Avinash
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I really need to respond to you.
> >>>>>>>>> 1 When a fee is set, it is clear it is not free lunch and you
> need
> >>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> pay.
> >>>>>>>>> Sneeking in clandestinely is not acceptable.
> >>>>>>>>> 2 On the request of members we cut the registration by 50% to
> all.
> >>>>>>>>> Thereafter no one complained about the cost.
> >>>>>>>>> 3 We kept the window open for those who could not afford this
> >>>>>>>>> amount
> >>>>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>>>> well.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regarding your arguement,
> >>>>>>>>> " nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> ethics of knowledge disssimination."
> >>>>>>>>> I am apauled to see the word "ethics" being used in this context.
> >>>>>>>>> With
> >>>>>>>>> respect to the remaining words "knowledge discimination" so all
> >>>>>>>>> those
> >>>>>>>>> who
> >>>>>>>>> provide knowledge including centres of knowledge should do so
> free
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> teachers should not charge anything for this.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I would look forward for you to do so in the comming days.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Coming to the point.
> >>>>>>>>> 1 We must rise above the begging bowl mindset.
> >>>>>>>>> 2 We must pay for services for which you are expected to pay.
> >>>>>>>>> 3 Until and unless there is a revenue model, we can't expect any
> >>>>>>>>> service
> >>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>> quality to come to us.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Besides this there were other issues I would like to highlight.
> >>>>>>&

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[li...@srinivasu.org]

ulty in one or the other universities for sure. But
>>>>>>>> state will take care of my needs but economically modest Students
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> not be burdened to pay.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And Harish Sir Sorry to read from you
>>>>>>>> block quote
>>>>>>>> We must rise above the begging bowl mindset
>>>>>>>> block quote end
>>>>>>>> Please you being the moderator of a reputed mailing list such
>>>>>>>> written
>>>>>>>> expression is unwarranted.
>>>>>>>> Who beggs is very subjective notion, those who demand rights from
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> state? or those who find money from corporates which covertly drive
>>>>>>>> where it is to be invested.
>>>>>>>>> On 2/18/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dear Avinash
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I really need to respond to you.
>>>>>>>>> 1 When a fee is set, it is clear it is not free lunch and you need
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> pay.
>>>>>>>>> Sneeking in clandestinely is not acceptable.
>>>>>>>>> 2 On the request of members we cut the registration by 50% to all.
>>>>>>>>> Thereafter no one complained about the cost.
>>>>>>>>> 3 We kept the window open for those who could not afford this
>>>>>>>>> amount
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regarding your arguement,
>>>>>>>>> " nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> ethics of knowledge disssimination."
>>>>>>>>> I am apauled to see the word "ethics" being used in this context.
>>>>>>>>> With
>>>>>>>>> respect to the remaining words "knowledge discimination" so all
>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>> provide knowledge including centres of knowledge should do so free
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> teachers should not charge anything for this.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I would look forward for you to do so in the comming days.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Coming to the point.
>>>>>>>>> 1 We must rise above the begging bowl mindset.
>>>>>>>>> 2 We must pay for services for which you are expected to pay.
>>>>>>>>> 3 Until and unless there is a revenue model, we can't expect any
>>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> quality to come to us.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Besides this there were other issues I would like to highlight.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 1 There were about 140 who registered online. Some sent advanced
>>>>>>>>> information, they were unable to come. However, there was a good
>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>> did not bother to inform. Food and other logistic arrangements were
>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> them. This has all got waste. There is a cost to all that and more
>>>>>>>>> importantly an moral obligation to inform before hand.There were
>>>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>> showed only on the first day and again they did not inform they
>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> comming the second day.
>>>>>>>>> 2 Delegates were chit chatting causing disturvance and disrespect
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> speakers. It was very upsetting when the speaker had 

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[avinash shahi]

 with proper treatment or
> people including some of the organizers could not become the witness
> of Fusion program. Also the Fusion program was perhaps not covered
> under the audio recording.
> 6.Last but not the least, we all are friend here and none of us would
> like to break the heart of others. Suggestions, appreciation and
> critics should be welcomed with equal spirit. Let us always try to see
> good in bad, and not bad in good. All the organizers of 4th
> Accessindia convention including the Moderator and Score Foundation
> are appreciated and valued for their every best effort made to finish
> a successful convention.
> Now let us all come together and enjoy the audio recording of the
> convention.
>
> Regards,
>
> Amit Bhatt
>
>
> On 2/19/14, bijoy sukumaran  wrote:
>> I am saddened to read the comment by a fellow JNUite regarding the
>> registration fee of AI convention.
>> The conferences that some of the centres offer, provide free of
>> charge, not only quality intellectual discussion, but delicious food
>> and liquor as well.
>> The organisers don't have to worry about the funding, some running
>> around to the administration block and some exchange of letters, the
>> funding is taken care of.
>> Now can we expect the same from NGOs which don't have any source of
>> income other than the good will of the sponsors?
>> I am in full agreement with him in the matter of free dissemination of
>> knowledge, but unsure of its practicability.
>> The idea of free conference for all whereas food for only those who
>> can pay for it sounds pathetic.
>> It will be piteous to see some people who have money in their pocket
>> eat, while some go hungry because of the shortage of money.
>> Even if the organisers wave off the registration fee in order to
>> ensure the free flow of knowledge there are other barriers which stand
>> on this free flow of knowledge dissemination, to travel to the venue a
>> person will have to spend money for metro, rickshaw and so on.
>> Demanding rights is not begging, but expecting to get everything free
>> of cost because of blindness definitely is a beggar's attitude.
>>
>>
>> On 2/19/14, Prashant Verma  wrote:
>>> I feel very sad to read the comments about the registration fees. All
>>> the
>>> registered participants got a USB drive, a smart jute bag and other
>>> material. The cost of this alone would be close to Rs. 500.
>>> The registration fee was not enough to pay for the food, snacks, the
>>> audio
>>> system, tentage, support staff  etc.
>>>
>>> This kind of reaction will surely  discourage people who would thought
>>> of
>>> hosting the next convention. Many people took time off from their busy
>>> schedule to help out, this is a sad outcome for them.
>>>
>>> If I had the assurance of getting nominal registration fees from
>>> participants I could have organized so many useful programs on a regular
>>> basis at NAB Delhi.
>>> Instead of focussing our energies on devising useful programs and
>>> services
>>> we in the NGO sector have to spend most of our time finding sponsors.
>>> It seems that self sustainability of any project is not really possible
>>> in
>>> the VI community.
>>>
>>> If we investigate we will find that this kind of attitude among us is
>>> one
>>> of
>>> the reasons why assistive technology development has not taken off in
>>> India.
>>> There is virtually no market for quality products and services among the
>>> visually impaired even though thousands are now employed. We want
>>> everything
>>> free or subsidized.
>>>
>>> I am sure that George, Harish myself and others will not get deterred by
>>> this. Our resolve to do something meaningful and productive for the
>>> community is too strong even though we will think twice before accepting
>>> to
>>> host the next AI convention.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Rahul Bajaj
>>> Sent: 18 February 2014 20:28
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>>>
>>> It's sad that people are trying to defend the indefensible. We are
>>> making
>>> a
>>> mountain out of a mole hill. The c

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[vivek doddamani]

 it is to be invested.
>>>>>>>> On 2/18/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dear Avinash
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I really need to respond to you.
>>>>>>>> 1 When a fee is set, it is clear it is not free lunch and you need
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> pay.
>>>>>>>> Sneeking in clandestinely is not acceptable.
>>>>>>>> 2 On the request of members we cut the registration by 50% to all.
>>>>>>>> Thereafter no one complained about the cost.
>>>>>>>> 3 We kept the window open for those who could not afford this
>>>>>>>> amount
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regarding your arguement,
>>>>>>>> " nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> ethics of knowledge disssimination."
>>>>>>>> I am apauled to see the word "ethics" being used in this context.
>>>>>>>> With
>>>>>>>> respect to the remaining words "knowledge discimination" so all
>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> provide knowledge including centres of knowledge should do so free
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> teachers should not charge anything for this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would look forward for you to do so in the comming days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Coming to the point.
>>>>>>>> 1 We must rise above the begging bowl mindset.
>>>>>>>> 2 We must pay for services for which you are expected to pay.
>>>>>>>> 3 Until and unless there is a revenue model, we can't expect any
>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> quality to come to us.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Besides this there were other issues I would like to highlight.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1 There were about 140 who registered online. Some sent advanced
>>>>>>>> information, they were unable to come. However, there was a good
>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> did not bother to inform. Food and other logistic arrangements were
>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> them. This has all got waste. There is a cost to all that and more
>>>>>>>> importantly an moral obligation to inform before hand.There were
>>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> showed only on the first day and again they did not inform they
>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> comming the second day.
>>>>>>>> 2 Delegates were chit chatting causing disturvance and disrespect
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> speakers. It was very upsetting when the speaker had to bluntly
>>>>>>>> demand
>>>>>>>> silence. Friends, do we deserve such reprimand?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The bottom line of all this is our insensitivity and lack of our
>>>>>>>> sense
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> being responsible citizen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we don't correct ourselves, we will have to pay a huge price for
>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>> Already we have an adverse mindset and this will only go to
>>>>>>>> strengthen
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is not a finger pointing exercise it is for us to reflect and
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> correct our course.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Harish Kotian.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[harish]

Hi All

Let me articulate 2 points
1 The purpose of highlighting the fee issue is to bring on table that the 
attitude of expecting things for free is not ok, we need to come over it. 
When one does so in the mainstream, the usual reaction is to cover it up 
with sympathy. We need to be careful about such negative mindset. For, it 
tends to perpetuate the bechare mindset, which, does immense harm to us. As 
Prashant said, it also, comes in the way of quality service and activities. 
Until and unless there is a financial model in place it only retards quality 
services. I do appreciate different point of view. AccessIndia to me, means 
by and large empowerment. I feel it pertinant to do my bit to raise the bar 
and talk on issue which is necessary to speak out and which is usually 
ducked.


2 The second point I had raised was that it is necessary to inform their 
organisers about their inability to attend. Food got wasted and if the 
information was given to the organisers, food and money could have got 
saved. The saved money could have been utilised to a more productive use.
We definately need to be responsible citizen. This is certainly a bit we can 
do.


Guys, lets go ahead.
Harish.

- Original Message - 
From: "Amit Bhatt" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention


Friends,

Though I could not make my presence in the 4th convention of
Accesindia group this time, and thus I don't deem myself to be
entitled to give my comment on the current thread, however,  I thought
to put my view across after following this discussion on the board.

I have also been organizing such events and seminars since last 7-8
years and yes, undeniably it is not an easy chore to make the
arrangement without getting the full cooperation from the members. It
becomes more thorny task when people do not submit the said
registration amount. Being an another organizer I too can understand
the intricacy in arranging the things in to a proper system and I
strongly endorse  the view of submitting the registration fee but as
Ms. Sherene said, perhaps many of us have misunderstood what Mr.
Avinash wanted to communicate here. This is also a cause that the
entire discussion is moving to the direction that has nothing to do
with the original message.
The problem arises when some of us do not welcome the critical
observation as I understand Avinash was responding to a mail in this
regard and everyone has his or her own opinion.
Now I'll come to the point, I am astonished to se the response from
those members who all the time blame the blindness for demand and not
following the money matter despite of the fact that the people here
also clame to be a part of mainstream.
Friends, if we are really a part of mainstreamed world, then I don't
think there was any need to always include the blindness for demand
and so called bagging. I have done all my schooling, college with
mainstream communities only. Moreover I have also experienced this
attitude of not giving the registration fee and etc amongst the
sighted people or so called mainstreamed world in such conferences and
seminars as I do participate in the convention and colloquium
organized for the sighted people as well. So why I am sharing it with
you all to urge please do not include the blindness or the people with
vision impairment in every disparaged act or action. Avoiding the
registration  charges or expecting the things free of cost has nothing
to do with the disability, but it can be a nature or mental propensity
of any human being on this earth what so ever.
Another point, I don't wanted to say anything about the Non
Governmental Organization in this discussion, but someone has already
talked about these NGO stating that they do not get the fund and it is
really difficult to collect the monetary support, I agree also here to
a great extend, but people blaming the blind for any deprecated
actions or attitude shown by the people, I would please like to ask a
questions here, do you assume  that all our NGO's are actually
catering the needs of the disadvantaged people with full honesty and
integrity? If not, then these NGO's are also required to be scaled
with the same line by which the blind people are being scaled. Here it
is important for me to clear that I am not including every NGO in the
example of non sincere case, as there are indeed a few NGO's doing so
well in the favor of disabled or disadvantaged segments of the
society. If any NGO is getting donations from the donors and other
government departments in the name of the blind or disabled, and that
fund is not being properly utilized for the welfare of the people,
then this act of any NGO is nothing more than a bagging from the
benefactors. I do not understand that why our socialist and activist
like Arvin Kesriwal has not demande

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Amit Bhatt]

t only in
blindness.
3.  Being a host and organizer, one has to use proper language and
polite words while addressing to the members. Some of the members have
noticed a harsh formation of words in the written communiqué while the
organizers were showing their annoyance before or after convention.
4.  It is also a responsibility of the organizers to depute the people
who could collect the required registration amount from the
participants.
5.  There was a mess of information on the registration site and it was
mix of text of old convention, I think these all need to be corrected
in the next time. Fusion group was not given with proper treatment or
people including some of the organizers could not become the witness
of Fusion program. Also the Fusion program was perhaps not covered
under the audio recording.
6.  Last but not the least, we all are friend here and none of us would
like to break the heart of others. Suggestions, appreciation and
critics should be welcomed with equal spirit. Let us always try to see
good in bad, and not bad in good. All the organizers of 4th
Accessindia convention including the Moderator and Score Foundation
are appreciated and valued for their every best effort made to finish
a successful convention.
Now let us all come together and enjoy the audio recording of the convention.

Regards,

Amit Bhatt


On 2/19/14, bijoy sukumaran  wrote:
> I am saddened to read the comment by a fellow JNUite regarding the
> registration fee of AI convention.
> The conferences that some of the centres offer, provide free of
> charge, not only quality intellectual discussion, but delicious food
> and liquor as well.
> The organisers don't have to worry about the funding, some running
> around to the administration block and some exchange of letters, the
> funding is taken care of.
> Now can we expect the same from NGOs which don't have any source of
> income other than the good will of the sponsors?
> I am in full agreement with him in the matter of free dissemination of
> knowledge, but unsure of its practicability.
> The idea of free conference for all whereas food for only those who
> can pay for it sounds pathetic.
> It will be piteous to see some people who have money in their pocket
> eat, while some go hungry because of the shortage of money.
> Even if the organisers wave off the registration fee in order to
> ensure the free flow of knowledge there are other barriers which stand
> on this free flow of knowledge dissemination, to travel to the venue a
> person will have to spend money for metro, rickshaw and so on.
> Demanding rights is not begging, but expecting to get everything free
> of cost because of blindness definitely is a beggar's attitude.
>
>
> On 2/19/14, Prashant Verma  wrote:
>> I feel very sad to read the comments about the registration fees. All the
>> registered participants got a USB drive, a smart jute bag and other
>> material. The cost of this alone would be close to Rs. 500.
>> The registration fee was not enough to pay for the food, snacks, the
>> audio
>> system, tentage, support staff  etc.
>>
>> This kind of reaction will surely  discourage people who would thought of
>> hosting the next convention. Many people took time off from their busy
>> schedule to help out, this is a sad outcome for them.
>>
>> If I had the assurance of getting nominal registration fees from
>> participants I could have organized so many useful programs on a regular
>> basis at NAB Delhi.
>> Instead of focussing our energies on devising useful programs and
>> services
>> we in the NGO sector have to spend most of our time finding sponsors.
>> It seems that self sustainability of any project is not really possible
>> in
>> the VI community.
>>
>> If we investigate we will find that this kind of attitude among us is one
>> of
>> the reasons why assistive technology development has not taken off in
>> India.
>> There is virtually no market for quality products and services among the
>> visually impaired even though thousands are now employed. We want
>> everything
>> free or subsidized.
>>
>> I am sure that George, Harish myself and others will not get deterred by
>> this. Our resolve to do something meaningful and productive for the
>> community is too strong even though we will think twice before accepting
>> to
>> host the next AI convention.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Rahul Bajaj
>> Sent: 18 February 2014 20:28
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.
>> 

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[bijoy sukumaran]

I am saddened to read the comment by a fellow JNUite regarding the
registration fee of AI convention.
The conferences that some of the centres offer, provide free of
charge, not only quality intellectual discussion, but delicious food
and liquor as well.
The organisers don't have to worry about the funding, some running
around to the administration block and some exchange of letters, the
funding is taken care of.
Now can we expect the same from NGOs which don't have any source of
income other than the good will of the sponsors?
I am in full agreement with him in the matter of free dissemination of
knowledge, but unsure of its practicability.
The idea of free conference for all whereas food for only those who
can pay for it sounds pathetic.
It will be piteous to see some people who have money in their pocket
eat, while some go hungry because of the shortage of money.
Even if the organisers wave off the registration fee in order to
ensure the free flow of knowledge there are other barriers which stand
on this free flow of knowledge dissemination, to travel to the venue a
person will have to spend money for metro, rickshaw and so on.
Demanding rights is not begging, but expecting to get everything free
of cost because of blindness definitely is a beggar's attitude.


On 2/19/14, Prashant Verma  wrote:
> I feel very sad to read the comments about the registration fees. All the
> registered participants got a USB drive, a smart jute bag and other
> material. The cost of this alone would be close to Rs. 500.
> The registration fee was not enough to pay for the food, snacks, the audio
> system, tentage, support staff  etc.
>
> This kind of reaction will surely  discourage people who would thought of
> hosting the next convention. Many people took time off from their busy
> schedule to help out, this is a sad outcome for them.
>
> If I had the assurance of getting nominal registration fees from
> participants I could have organized so many useful programs on a regular
> basis at NAB Delhi.
> Instead of focussing our energies on devising useful programs and services
> we in the NGO sector have to spend most of our time finding sponsors.
> It seems that self sustainability of any project is not really possible in
> the VI community.
>
> If we investigate we will find that this kind of attitude among us is one
> of
> the reasons why assistive technology development has not taken off in
> India.
> There is virtually no market for quality products and services among the
> visually impaired even though thousands are now employed. We want
> everything
> free or subsidized.
>
> I am sure that George, Harish myself and others will not get deterred by
> this. Our resolve to do something meaningful and productive for the
> community is too strong even though we will think twice before accepting to
> host the next AI convention.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Rahul Bajaj
> Sent: 18 February 2014 20:28
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>
> It's sad that people are trying to defend the indefensible. We are making a
> mountain out of a mole hill. The comment about impoverished blind people
> not
> being able to pay 500 rupees is laughable to say the least. All those who
> are a part of the AI list at least have a computer or a mobile phone.
>  So, I find it hard to believe that such people would have to run from
> pillar to post to accumulate 500 rupees.
>  We always keep harping  about the fact that we deserve empathy and not
> sympathy.
>  This is precisely the reason why most people view us as mere objects of
> charity and sympathy.
> Forgive me if I'm being rude, but  it is on account of such a fickle
> mindset
> that we always keep asking for reservation instead of improving our skills
> and competence.
>
>
>> On Feb 18, 2014, at 3:42 PM, avinash shahi 
> wrote:
>>
>> I think discussion should not rest on JNU. It is not a centre of
>> discussion. if I give figures then many would write back alleging me
>> defending to the core...
>> But from Sonia's National Advisory Council to Planning Commission,
>> From mainstream print and electronic media to secretaries positions,
>> and from Well-known Universities to many Ambacies in the world JNUites
>> are well placed.
>> Hope people don't ask anymore questions writing my name, I have
>> already made clear my point on money issue.
>>> On 2/18/14, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:
>>> Dear List Members,
>>>
>>> Quite amused to see the theme of the discussion.
>>>
>>> Dear Av

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Nikita Jain]

Dear All,

Avinash is a part of our group and is a part of a larger goal towards which
we all are working. Convention is over and there is no point now talking
about it. Let us all take a learning with us and keep it in the checklist
for next time.

Complaints, suggestions, feedback are very important. Thank you all for
expressing yourself.

Lets not make a mess out of it. Whatever we think at least came out.

POSITIVITY ALWAYS HELPS.

Cheers!!!


On 19 February 2014 00:19, Prashant Verma  wrote:

> I feel very sad to read the comments about the registration fees. All the
> registered participants got a USB drive, a smart jute bag and other
> material. The cost of this alone would be close to Rs. 500.
> The registration fee was not enough to pay for the food, snacks, the audio
> system, tentage, support staff  etc.
>
> This kind of reaction will surely  discourage people who would thought of
> hosting the next convention. Many people took time off from their busy
> schedule to help out, this is a sad outcome for them.
>
> If I had the assurance of getting nominal registration fees from
> participants I could have organized so many useful programs on a regular
> basis at NAB Delhi.
> Instead of focussing our energies on devising useful programs and services
> we in the NGO sector have to spend most of our time finding sponsors.
> It seems that self sustainability of any project is not really possible in
> the VI community.
>
> If we investigate we will find that this kind of attitude among us is one
> of
> the reasons why assistive technology development has not taken off in
> India.
> There is virtually no market for quality products and services among the
> visually impaired even though thousands are now employed. We want
> everything
> free or subsidized.
>
> I am sure that George, Harish myself and others will not get deterred by
> this. Our resolve to do something meaningful and productive for the
> community is too strong even though we will think twice before accepting to
> host the next AI convention.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
> Of Rahul Bajaj
> Sent: 18 February 2014 20:28
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>
> It's sad that people are trying to defend the indefensible. We are making a
> mountain out of a mole hill. The comment about impoverished blind people
> not
> being able to pay 500 rupees is laughable to say the least. All those who
> are a part of the AI list at least have a computer or a mobile phone.
>  So, I find it hard to believe that such people would have to run from
> pillar to post to accumulate 500 rupees.
>  We always keep harping  about the fact that we deserve empathy and not
> sympathy.
>  This is precisely the reason why most people view us as mere objects of
> charity and sympathy.
> Forgive me if I'm being rude, but  it is on account of such a fickle
> mindset
> that we always keep asking for reservation instead of improving our skills
> and competence.
>
>
> > On Feb 18, 2014, at 3:42 PM, avinash shahi 
> wrote:
> >
> > I think discussion should not rest on JNU. It is not a centre of
> > discussion. if I give figures then many would write back alleging me
> > defending to the core...
> > But from Sonia's National Advisory Council to Planning Commission,
> > From mainstream print and electronic media to secretaries positions,
> > and from Well-known Universities to many Ambacies in the world JNUites
> > are well placed.
> > Hope people don't ask anymore questions writing my name, I have
> > already made clear my point on money issue.
> >> On 2/18/14, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:
> >> Dear List Members,
> >>
> >> Quite amused to see the theme of the discussion.
> >>
> >> Dear Avinash,
> >> The state or any organiser simply can not print notes or plead for
> >> sponsorships. The models be it organisational or economic are bound
> >> to fail due to inefficiencies if they are not based on revenue
> >> driving philosopy. When i had come to JNU and seen people enjoying
> >> free delicacies and ending the seminar with out any clear results
> >> achieved, i was made to think that in Mumbai even students and for
> >> that matter anything that we do, we have to pay through our noses.
> >>
> >> Universities like JNU receives a grant as they deserve, but what does
> >> it offer in return to the nation?
> >> How many research papers are implemented in mainstream public
> >> 

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Prashant Verma]

I feel very sad to read the comments about the registration fees. All the
registered participants got a USB drive, a smart jute bag and other
material. The cost of this alone would be close to Rs. 500. 
The registration fee was not enough to pay for the food, snacks, the audio
system, tentage, support staff  etc.

This kind of reaction will surely  discourage people who would thought of
hosting the next convention. Many people took time off from their busy
schedule to help out, this is a sad outcome for them.   
 
If I had the assurance of getting nominal registration fees from
participants I could have organized so many useful programs on a regular
basis at NAB Delhi.  
Instead of focussing our energies on devising useful programs and services
we in the NGO sector have to spend most of our time finding sponsors. 
It seems that self sustainability of any project is not really possible in
the VI community. 

If we investigate we will find that this kind of attitude among us is one of
the reasons why assistive technology development has not taken off in India.
There is virtually no market for quality products and services among the
visually impaired even though thousands are now employed. We want everything
free or subsidized. 

I am sure that George, Harish myself and others will not get deterred by
this. Our resolve to do something meaningful and productive for the
community is too strong even though we will think twice before accepting to
host the next AI convention. 

 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: 18 February 2014 20:28
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

It's sad that people are trying to defend the indefensible. We are making a
mountain out of a mole hill. The comment about impoverished blind people not
being able to pay 500 rupees is laughable to say the least. All those who
are a part of the AI list at least have a computer or a mobile phone.
 So, I find it hard to believe that such people would have to run from
pillar to post to accumulate 500 rupees.
 We always keep harping  about the fact that we deserve empathy and not
sympathy.
 This is precisely the reason why most people view us as mere objects of
charity and sympathy.
Forgive me if I'm being rude, but  it is on account of such a fickle mindset
that we always keep asking for reservation instead of improving our skills
and competence.


> On Feb 18, 2014, at 3:42 PM, avinash shahi 
wrote:
> 
> I think discussion should not rest on JNU. It is not a centre of 
> discussion. if I give figures then many would write back alleging me 
> defending to the core...
> But from Sonia's National Advisory Council to Planning Commission, 
> From mainstream print and electronic media to secretaries positions, 
> and from Well-known Universities to many Ambacies in the world JNUites 
> are well placed.
> Hope people don't ask anymore questions writing my name, I have 
> already made clear my point on money issue.
>> On 2/18/14, Ekinath Khedekar  wrote:
>> Dear List Members,
>> 
>> Quite amused to see the theme of the discussion.
>> 
>> Dear Avinash,
>> The state or any organiser simply can not print notes or plead for 
>> sponsorships. The models be it organisational or economic are bound 
>> to fail due to inefficiencies if they are not based on revenue 
>> driving philosopy. When i had come to JNU and seen people enjoying 
>> free delicacies and ending the seminar with out any clear results 
>> achieved, i was made to think that in Mumbai even students and for 
>> that matter anything that we do, we have to pay through our noses.
>> 
>> Universities like JNU receives a grant as they deserve, but what does 
>> it offer in return to the nation?
>> How many research papers are implemented in mainstream public 
>> affairs, which have changed the development landscape as desired by 
>> so called scholars? You can certainly sensitize us.
>> I am not sure if the university rankings are done on that basis. It 
>> must be on number of research papers and not their quality, 
>> therefore, not even a single Indian university ranks amongst top 200 
>> universities around the world.
>> 
>> Talking about "begging bowl" mindset, that's the biggest problem in 
>> our society. We would love to call us honourable, but we would not 
>> think twice to lay down most important right of of voting for a 
>> bottle of liquor or 2 rupees a kg grains. That's why most incompetent 
>> rule us.
>> 
>> Hard working guys and cities pay innumerable taxes and so called 
>> Garib keeps breeding with out worrying for their children's bel

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Rohit Trivedi]

Those of us who could not come should also contribute to build some kind of
corpus for future activities.
Rohit

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Amar Jain
Sent: 18 February 2014 10:25
To: accessindia
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

Surprised to see contrary view on the stand to pay the charges.

We are talking of 500, in law we have conferences wherein we pay normally
anything starting from 5000. And again, the whole idea remains quality
decemination of knowledge.

If people didn't pay, it was fine. But despite not paying if you have
availed any of the facilities, then it surely does not go well with the
spirit of the convention and the hard work of the organizers. And as far as
I understand, then this is exactly what prompted Harish sir to write that
statement in his email.

I don't think anyone should have mind paying 500 not only for the quality
sessions which we had, but also just for the mere interaction with all the
people present there. And trust me this is not about the capacity, this is
about you recognizing the effort of so many individuals who with the limited
resources came together to organize this event for us.

Regards,
--
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com



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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Shireen Irani]

if i may add my 2 bits here, i think there's a huge comunication gap
going on here.

i think what avinash was trying to say was, that in principle,
descemination of knowledge should be free of cost. if i'm not wrong,
he also admitted that charging for food and other logistics is fair
enough.

unfortunately avinash, although i do understand completely where this
is coming from, we do not function in an ideal marxist senario today.
so it is unfair to expect a vollantery group like the organisers of
this convention to organise such a quality event from their own
pockets. there is no way they would receive funding from any
government agency, and in spite of that, they have only charged a
minimal amount, bearing logistical costs.
at the same time, this intimation was given way in advance. and if we
are not happy with such an arrangement, we can unfortunately do no
more than not be part of it. so in spite of prior intimation, if
people have gone in sneakily and not payed their dues, then it is only
unfair to the organisers.
i think we all agree, that in an ideal world, things would have been
different. but although i completely endorse your ideas avinash, it is
a bit unfair to expect such a situation in our current overall
senario.

in any case, please let us not miss-understand and make enemies of
each-other, when all of us are well-meaning. perhaps next time a
voucher can be issued without which, people should not be allowed to
partake the food till they show a koopon etc.
it would be great if the organisers approached those people
individually, and take whatever action necessary. lets try and not
point fingers publicly. rest asured, it is indeed sad, that people
bend down to such a level in spite of all efforts made by organisers
to make things so convenient and low budget. i truely am sorry that
you guys had to experience this in return for all your efforts.
but do consider the koopone sistem for next time.

On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> All
>
> This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back home
> after this event.
>
> Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to see
> the delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the audotorium. I
> guess the purpose of this convention got largely achieved.
>
> I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care to
> make the stay comfortable and to put the logistics in place. I do express my
> satisfaction with the presentation and the rich hue of topics which got
> touched in these two days.
>
> I saw a lot of bonding and strengthen friendships in these last 2 days. This
> is really my yardstick to look at the convention.
>
> What made me very upset that, I was told, some persons had not paid up for
> the convention and sneaked in to the various events. This is not right at
> all. I take it on myself, that, we haven't been able to raise above such
> trifle slips. Such folks are a blot to the community. What they don't
> realise that, these things also come into notice and gives reason to think
> ill about us. Each one of us are ambassadors in their own rights.
>
> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he would
> sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined but did not
> have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer. Then, why this
> indulgence?
>
> Well, friends thanks for all those who put small and big efforts and all the
> delegates who came along from many states of the country.It was nice to be
> with each one of you.
> Warmly
> Harish Kotian.
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Rahul Bajaj]

t;>> I would look forward for you to do so in the comming days.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Coming to the point.
>>>>>>> 1 We must rise above the begging bowl mindset.
>>>>>>> 2 We must pay for services for which you are expected to pay.
>>>>>>> 3 Until and unless there is a revenue model, we can't expect any
>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> quality to come to us.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Besides this there were other issues I would like to highlight.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1 There were about 140 who registered online. Some sent advanced
>>>>>>> information, they were unable to come. However, there was a good
>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> did not bother to inform. Food and other logistic arrangements were
>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> them. This has all got waste. There is a cost to all that and more
>>>>>>> importantly an moral obligation to inform before hand.There were
>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> showed only on the first day and again they did not inform they were
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> comming the second day.
>>>>>>> 2 Delegates were chit chatting causing disturvance and disrespect to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> speakers. It was very upsetting when the speaker had to bluntly
>>>>>>> demand
>>>>>>> silence. Friends, do we deserve such reprimand?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The bottom line of all this is our insensitivity and lack of our
>>>>>>> sense
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> being responsible citizen.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If we don't correct ourselves, we will have to pay a huge price for
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>> Already we have an adverse mindset and this will only go to
>>>>>>> strengthen
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is not a finger pointing exercise it is for us to reflect and to
>>>>>>> correct our course.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Harish Kotian.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of Vikas Kapoor
>>>>>>> Sent: 17 February 2014 23:13
>>>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>>>>>>> issuesconcerning
>>>>>>> the disabled.
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On the contrary, I've attended several conferences which charge
>>>>>>> Rs.500
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> Rs.1000 as registration fee. Everything doesn't work on sponsorship.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> think that this list did anything wrong to make it a huge success!
>>>>>>> Whether
>>>>>>> somebody has the ability to pay for it or not is entirely a different
>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>> altogether.
>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>> From: "avinash shahi" 
>>>>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>>>>> concerningthe disabled." 
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:59 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've attended countless confrences and seminars of utmost repute but
>>>>>>> nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
>>>>>>> ethics of knowledge disssimination.
>>>>>>> But what you wrote
>>>>>>> Block quote
>>>>>>> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that
>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>> would sponsor the registration cost 

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Amit Pahuja]

 afford this
> amount
> >>>>>>> as
> >>>>>>> well.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Regarding your arguement,
> >>>>>>> " nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against
> the
> >>>>>>> ethics of knowledge disssimination."
> >>>>>>> I am apauled to see the word "ethics" being used in this context.
> >>>>>>> With
> >>>>>>> respect to the remaining words "knowledge discimination" so all
> those
> >>>>>>> who
> >>>>>>> provide knowledge including centres of knowledge should do so free
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> teachers should not charge anything for this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would look forward for you to do so in the comming days.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Coming to the point.
> >>>>>>> 1 We must rise above the begging bowl mindset.
> >>>>>>> 2 We must pay for services for which you are expected to pay.
> >>>>>>> 3 Until and unless there is a revenue model, we can't expect any
> >>>>>>> service
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> quality to come to us.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Besides this there were other issues I would like to highlight.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 1 There were about 140 who registered online. Some sent advanced
> >>>>>>> information, they were unable to come. However, there was a good
> >>>>>>> number
> >>>>>>> who
> >>>>>>> did not bother to inform. Food and other logistic arrangements were
> >>>>>>> made
> >>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>> them. This has all got waste. There is a cost to all that and more
> >>>>>>> importantly an moral obligation to inform before hand.There were
> >>>>>>> others
> >>>>>>> who
> >>>>>>> showed only on the first day and again they did not inform they
> were
> >>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>> comming the second day.
> >>>>>>> 2 Delegates were chit chatting causing disturvance and disrespect
> to
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> speakers. It was very upsetting when the speaker had to bluntly
> >>>>>>> demand
> >>>>>>> silence. Friends, do we deserve such reprimand?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The bottom line of all this is our insensitivity and lack of our
> >>>>>>> sense
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> being responsible citizen.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If we don't correct ourselves, we will have to pay a huge price for
> >>>>>>> this.
> >>>>>>> Already we have an adverse mindset and this will only go to
> >>>>>>> strengthen
> >>>>>>> them.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This is not a finger pointing exercise it is for us to reflect and
> to
> >>>>>>> correct our course.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Harish Kotian.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Original Message-
> >>>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
> On
> >>>>>>> Behalf
> >>>>>>> Of Vikas Kapoor
> >>>>>>> Sent: 17 February 2014 23:13
> >>>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
> >>>>>>> issuesconcerning
> >>>>>>> the disabled.
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On the contrary, I've attended several conferences which charge
> >>>>>>> Rs.500
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> Rs.1000 as registration fee. Everything doesn't work on
> sponsorship.
> >>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>> don't
&g

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[avinash shahi]

gt;>>> On 2/18/14, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>>>> Those who are saying they have paid from 500 to 10,000 to attend
>>>>> confrences doesn't really drive the idea that one should pay and
>>>>> attend. And more you pay better the confrence. no guarantee. Just one
>>>>> example quality academicians including Nome Chomsky and Michael Sandle
>>>>> have refused to write for Journals which charge readers exorbitant
>>>>> amount. Knowledge Dissimination on Internet for free is picking
>>>>> momentum and being in one of the poorest countries, we should support
>>>>> such movements. Cambridge and Oxford Universities have already started
>>>>> circulating their lectures for free on Youtube.
>>>>> And HereI should inform you sir. In Jawaharlal Nehru University Which
>>>>> is buzz with talks and seminars, No student ever pays for attending
>>>>> any confrence and outsiders are equally invited. State is bound to
>>>>> release financial outlay to be invested for
>>>>> confrences/seminars/conventions.
>>>>> I will be a faculty in one or the other universities for sure. But
>>>>> state will take care of my needs but economically modest Students will
>>>>> not be burdened to pay.
>>>>>
>>>>> And Harish Sir Sorry to read from you
>>>>> block quote
>>>>> We must rise above the begging bowl mindset
>>>>> block quote end
>>>>> Please you being the moderator of a reputed mailing list such written
>>>>> expression is unwarranted.
>>>>> Who beggs is very subjective notion, those who demand rights from the
>>>>> state? or those who find money from corporates which covertly drive
>>>>> where it is to be invested.
>>>>>> On 2/18/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Avinash
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really need to respond to you.
>>>>>> 1 When a fee is set, it is clear it is not free lunch and you need to
>>>>>> pay.
>>>>>> Sneeking in clandestinely is not acceptable.
>>>>>> 2 On the request of members we cut the registration by 50% to all.
>>>>>> Thereafter no one complained about the cost.
>>>>>> 3 We kept the window open for those who could not afford this amount
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding your arguement,
>>>>>> " nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
>>>>>> ethics of knowledge disssimination."
>>>>>> I am apauled to see the word "ethics" being used in this context.
>>>>>> With
>>>>>> respect to the remaining words "knowledge discimination" so all those
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> provide knowledge including centres of knowledge should do so free
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> teachers should not charge anything for this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would look forward for you to do so in the comming days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Coming to the point.
>>>>>> 1 We must rise above the begging bowl mindset.
>>>>>> 2 We must pay for services for which you are expected to pay.
>>>>>> 3 Until and unless there is a revenue model, we can't expect any
>>>>>> service
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> quality to come to us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Besides this there were other issues I would like to highlight.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 There were about 140 who registered online. Some sent advanced
>>>>>> information, they were unable to come. However, there was a good
>>>>>> number
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> did not bother to inform. Food and other logistic arrangements were
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> them. This has all got waste. There is a cost to all that and more
>>>>>> importantly an moral obligation to inform before hand.There were
>>>>>> others
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> showed only on the first day and again they did not inform they were
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> comming the second day.
>>>>>> 2 Delegates were chit chatting causing d

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Ekinath Khedekar]

nfrence and outsiders are equally invited. State is bound to
>>>> release financial outlay to be invested for
>>>> confrences/seminars/conventions.
>>>> I will be a faculty in one or the other universities for sure. But
>>>> state will take care of my needs but economically modest Students will
>>>> not be burdened to pay.
>>>>
>>>> And Harish Sir Sorry to read from you
>>>> block quote
>>>> We must rise above the begging bowl mindset
>>>> block quote end
>>>> Please you being the moderator of a reputed mailing list such written
>>>> expression is unwarranted.
>>>> Who beggs is very subjective notion, those who demand rights from the
>>>> state? or those who find money from corporates which covertly drive
>>>> where it is to be invested.
>>>>> On 2/18/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>>>>> Dear Avinash
>>>>>
>>>>> I really need to respond to you.
>>>>> 1 When a fee is set, it is clear it is not free lunch and you need to
>>>>> pay.
>>>>> Sneeking in clandestinely is not acceptable.
>>>>> 2 On the request of members we cut the registration by 50% to all.
>>>>> Thereafter no one complained about the cost.
>>>>> 3 We kept the window open for those who could not afford this amount
>>>>> as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding your arguement,
>>>>> " nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
>>>>> ethics of knowledge disssimination."
>>>>> I am apauled to see the word "ethics" being used in this context. With
>>>>> respect to the remaining words "knowledge discimination" so all those
>>>>> who
>>>>> provide knowledge including centres of knowledge should do so free and
>>>>> the
>>>>> teachers should not charge anything for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would look forward for you to do so in the comming days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Coming to the point.
>>>>> 1 We must rise above the begging bowl mindset.
>>>>> 2 We must pay for services for which you are expected to pay.
>>>>> 3 Until and unless there is a revenue model, we can't expect any
>>>>> service
>>>>> of
>>>>> quality to come to us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides this there were other issues I would like to highlight.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 There were about 140 who registered online. Some sent advanced
>>>>> information, they were unable to come. However, there was a good
>>>>> number
>>>>> who
>>>>> did not bother to inform. Food and other logistic arrangements were
>>>>> made
>>>>> for
>>>>> them. This has all got waste. There is a cost to all that and more
>>>>> importantly an moral obligation to inform before hand.There were
>>>>> others
>>>>> who
>>>>> showed only on the first day and again they did not inform they were
>>>>> not
>>>>> comming the second day.
>>>>> 2 Delegates were chit chatting causing disturvance and disrespect to
>>>>> the
>>>>> speakers. It was very upsetting when the speaker had to bluntly demand
>>>>> silence. Friends, do we deserve such reprimand?
>>>>>
>>>>> The bottom line of all this is our insensitivity and lack of our sense
>>>>> of
>>>>> being responsible citizen.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we don't correct ourselves, we will have to pay a huge price for
>>>>> this.
>>>>> Already we have an adverse mindset and this will only go to strengthen
>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not a finger pointing exercise it is for us to reflect and to
>>>>> correct our course.
>>>>>
>>>>> Harish Kotian.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Vikas Kapoor
>>>>> Sent: 17 February 2014 23:13
>>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>>>>> issuesconcerning
>>>>> the disabled.
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia 

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[li...@srinivasu.org]

gt;> 
>>>> 1 There were about 140 who registered online. Some sent advanced
>>>> information, they were unable to come. However, there was a good number
>>>> who
>>>> did not bother to inform. Food and other logistic arrangements were made
>>>> for
>>>> them. This has all got waste. There is a cost to all that and more
>>>> importantly an moral obligation to inform before hand.There were others
>>>> who
>>>> showed only on the first day and again they did not inform they were not
>>>> comming the second day.
>>>> 2 Delegates were chit chatting causing disturvance and disrespect to the
>>>> speakers. It was very upsetting when the speaker had to bluntly demand
>>>> silence. Friends, do we deserve such reprimand?
>>>> 
>>>> The bottom line of all this is our insensitivity and lack of our sense
>>>> of
>>>> being responsible citizen.
>>>> 
>>>> If we don't correct ourselves, we will have to pay a huge price for
>>>> this.
>>>> Already we have an adverse mindset and this will only go to strengthen
>>>> them.
>>>> 
>>>> This is not a finger pointing exercise it is for us to reflect and to
>>>> correct our course.
>>>> 
>>>> Harish Kotian.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Vikas Kapoor
>>>> Sent: 17 February 2014 23:13
>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>>>> issuesconcerning
>>>> the disabled.
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>>>> 
>>>> On the contrary, I've attended several conferences which charge Rs.500
>>>> to
>>>> Rs.1000 as registration fee. Everything doesn't work on sponsorship. I
>>>> don't
>>>> think that this list did anything wrong to make it a huge success!
>>>> Whether
>>>> somebody has the ability to pay for it or not is entirely a different
>>>> matter
>>>> altogether.
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "avinash shahi" 
>>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerningthe disabled." 
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:59 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I've attended countless confrences and seminars of utmost repute but
>>>> nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
>>>> ethics of knowledge disssimination.
>>>> But what you wrote
>>>> Block quote
>>>> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he
>>>> would sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined
>>>> but did not have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer.
>>>> Then, why this indulgence?
>>>> block quote end
>>>> Please understand nobody wants someone should sponser somebody's
>>>> attendance in any paid convention anywhere in the world. I heard many
>>>> reputed intellectuals and individuals attended talks and exhibitions
>>>> but didn't touch food in fact tea.
>>>> So such allegation is unwarranted. Please if we really wish to
>>>> dissiminate knowledge and quality information to those who truly
>>>> cherish such conventions , let us rise much ahead from such
>>>> restrictive restrictions.
>>>> If we can find sponsers for minny events there is not difficulty in
>>>> arranging money for those who wish to excell in life despite
>>>> undescribable miseries. But such arrangements have to be made without
>>>> letting people know who did such wonders.
>>>> arranging money is not a big deal at all we are capable to find
>>>> contributers from all hues.
>>>> I just responded because didn't find this allegation acceptable
>>>> publicklly for those who don't have mere money.
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>>>>> All
>>>>> 
>>>>> This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back
>>>>> home
>>>>> after this event.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Glad all the speakers graced th

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[avinash shahi]

er had to bluntly demand
>>> silence. Friends, do we deserve such reprimand?
>>>
>>> The bottom line of all this is our insensitivity and lack of our sense
>>> of
>>> being responsible citizen.
>>>
>>> If we don't correct ourselves, we will have to pay a huge price for
>>> this.
>>> Already we have an adverse mindset and this will only go to strengthen
>>> them.
>>>
>>> This is not a finger pointing exercise it is for us to reflect and to
>>> correct our course.
>>>
>>> Harish Kotian.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Vikas Kapoor
>>> Sent: 17 February 2014 23:13
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and
>>> issuesconcerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>>>
>>> On the contrary, I've attended several conferences which charge Rs.500
>>> to
>>> Rs.1000 as registration fee. Everything doesn't work on sponsorship. I
>>> don't
>>> think that this list did anything wrong to make it a huge success!
>>> Whether
>>> somebody has the ability to pay for it or not is entirely a different
>>> matter
>>> altogether.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "avinash shahi" 
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerningthe disabled." 
>>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>>>
>>>
>>> I've attended countless confrences and seminars of utmost repute but
>>> nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
>>> ethics of knowledge disssimination.
>>> But what you wrote
>>> Block quote
>>> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he
>>> would sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined
>>> but did not have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer.
>>> Then, why this indulgence?
>>> block quote end
>>> Please understand nobody wants someone should sponser somebody's
>>> attendance in any paid convention anywhere in the world. I heard many
>>> reputed intellectuals and individuals attended talks and exhibitions
>>> but didn't touch food in fact tea.
>>> So such allegation is unwarranted. Please if we really wish to
>>> dissiminate knowledge and quality information to those who truly
>>> cherish such conventions , let us rise much ahead from such
>>> restrictive restrictions.
>>> If we can find sponsers for minny events there is not difficulty in
>>> arranging money for those who wish to excell in life despite
>>> undescribable miseries. But such arrangements have to be made without
>>> letting people know who did such wonders.
>>> arranging money is not a big deal at all we are capable to find
>>> contributers from all hues.
>>> I just responded because didn't find this allegation acceptable
>>> publicklly for those who don't have mere money.
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>>>> All
>>>>
>>>> This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back
>>>> home
>>>> after this event.
>>>>
>>>> Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to
>>>> see
>>>> the delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the
>>>> audotorium.
>>>> I
>>>> guess the purpose of this convention got largely achieved.
>>>>
>>>> I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care
>>>> to
>>>> make the stay comfortable and to put the logistics in place. I do
>>>> express
>>>> my
>>>> satisfaction with the presentation and the rich hue of topics which got
>>>> touched in these two days.
>>>>
>>>> I saw a lot of bonding and strengthen friendships in these last 2 days.
>>>> This
>>>> is really my yardstick to look at the convention.
>>>>
>>>> What made me very upset that, I was told, some persons had not paid up
>>>> for
>>>> the convention and sneaked in to the various events. This is not right
>>>> at
>>>> all. I take it on 

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[li...@srinivasu.org]

Dear Avinash,
I'm sorry but your thought process is completely wrong. 

I'm aware universities such as JNU do not charge from students because they 
would have sufficient funding. 

BTW, if you say knowledge should be fee, no school / collage or university 
should charge tuition fee from anyone. 

I agree with Harish that we all should move away from charity mode. 

Also, why did you not voice out this when convention fee is announced? Again I 
say whoever is not paid, the decision of not paying is not acceptable at all. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

> On 18-Feb-2014, at 12:35, avinash shahi  wrote:
> 
> Those who are saying they have paid from 500 to 10,000 to attend
> confrences doesn't really drive the idea that one should pay and
> attend. And more you pay better the confrence. no guarantee. Just one
> example quality academicians including Nome Chomsky and Michael Sandle
> have refused to write for Journals which charge readers exorbitant
> amount. Knowledge Dissimination on Internet for free is picking
> momentum and being in one of the poorest countries, we should support
> such movements. Cambridge and Oxford Universities have already started
> circulating their lectures for free on Youtube.
> And HereI should inform you sir. In Jawaharlal Nehru University Which
> is buzz with talks and seminars, No student ever pays for attending
> any confrence and outsiders are equally invited. State is bound to
> release financial outlay to be invested for
> confrences/seminars/conventions.
> I will be a faculty in one or the other universities for sure. But
> state will take care of my needs but economically modest Students will
> not be burdened to pay.
> 
> And Harish Sir Sorry to read from you
> block quote
> We must rise above the begging bowl mindset
> block quote end
> Please you being the moderator of a reputed mailing list such written
> expression is unwarranted.
> Who beggs is very subjective notion, those who demand rights from the
> state? or those who find money from corporates which covertly drive
> where it is to be invested.
>> On 2/18/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>> Dear Avinash
>> 
>> I really need to respond to you.
>> 1 When a fee is set, it is clear it is not free lunch and you need to pay.
>> Sneeking in clandestinely is not acceptable.
>> 2 On the request of members we cut the registration by 50% to all.
>> Thereafter no one complained about the cost.
>> 3 We kept the window open for those who could not afford this amount as
>> well.
>> 
>> Regarding your arguement,
>> " nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
>> ethics of knowledge disssimination."
>> I am apauled to see the word "ethics" being used in this context. With
>> respect to the remaining words "knowledge discimination" so all those who
>> provide knowledge including centres of knowledge should do so free and the
>> teachers should not charge anything for this.
>> 
>> I would look forward for you to do so in the comming days.
>> 
>> Coming to the point.
>> 1 We must rise above the begging bowl mindset.
>> 2 We must pay for services for which you are expected to pay.
>> 3 Until and unless there is a revenue model, we can't expect any service of
>> quality to come to us.
>> 
>> Besides this there were other issues I would like to highlight.
>> 
>> 1 There were about 140 who registered online. Some sent advanced
>> information, they were unable to come. However, there was a good number who
>> did not bother to inform. Food and other logistic arrangements were made for
>> them. This has all got waste. There is a cost to all that and more
>> importantly an moral obligation to inform before hand.There were others who
>> showed only on the first day and again they did not inform they were not
>> comming the second day.
>> 2 Delegates were chit chatting causing disturvance and disrespect to the
>> speakers. It was very upsetting when the speaker had to bluntly demand
>> silence. Friends, do we deserve such reprimand?
>> 
>> The bottom line of all this is our insensitivity and lack of our sense of
>> being responsible citizen.
>> 
>> If we don't correct ourselves, we will have to pay a huge price for this.
>> Already we have an adverse mindset and this will only go to strengthen
>> them.
>> 
>> This is not a finger pointing exercise it is for us to reflect and to
>> correct our course.
>> 
>> Harish Kotian.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.or

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Renuka Warriar Edakkunni]

Sorry to say Avinash,
Then how are you going to find money for conducting such events by
such non institutional agencies?  For the universities and other
corparates, they have their own funds for these purposes, but for
conducting a convention of the mailing groups such as access india,
which is done by voluntary agencies, it will be  difficult to find the
funding without a registration fee.  Otherwise, they will have to beg
to the sponsering agencies.

Renuka.

On 2/18/14, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Those who are saying they have paid from 500 to 10,000 to attend
> confrences doesn't really drive the idea that one should pay and
> attend. And more you pay better the confrence. no guarantee. Just one
> example quality academicians including Nome Chomsky and Michael Sandle
> have refused to write for Journals which charge readers exorbitant
> amount. Knowledge Dissimination on Internet for free is picking
> momentum and being in one of the poorest countries, we should support
> such movements. Cambridge and Oxford Universities have already started
> circulating their lectures for free on Youtube.
> And HereI should inform you sir. In Jawaharlal Nehru University Which
> is buzz with talks and seminars, No student ever pays for attending
> any confrence and outsiders are equally invited. State is bound to
> release financial outlay to be invested for
> confrences/seminars/conventions.
> I will be a faculty in one or the other universities for sure. But
> state will take care of my needs but economically modest Students will
> not be burdened to pay.
>
> And Harish Sir Sorry to read from you
> block quote
> We must rise above the begging bowl mindset
> block quote end
> Please you being the moderator of a reputed mailing list such written
> expression is unwarranted.
> Who beggs is very subjective notion, those who demand rights from the
> state? or those who find money from corporates which covertly drive
> where it is to be invested.
> On 2/18/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>> Dear Avinash
>>
>> I really need to respond to you.
>> 1 When a fee is set, it is clear it is not free lunch and you need to
>> pay.
>> Sneeking in clandestinely is not acceptable.
>> 2 On the request of members we cut the registration by 50% to all.
>> Thereafter no one complained about the cost.
>> 3 We kept the window open for those who could not afford this amount as
>> well.
>>
>> Regarding your arguement,
>> " nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
>> ethics of knowledge disssimination."
>> I am apauled to see the word "ethics" being used in this context. With
>> respect to the remaining words "knowledge discimination" so all those who
>> provide knowledge including centres of knowledge should do so free and
>> the
>> teachers should not charge anything for this.
>>
>> I would look forward for you to do so in the comming days.
>>
>> Coming to the point.
>> 1 We must rise above the begging bowl mindset.
>> 2 We must pay for services for which you are expected to pay.
>> 3 Until and unless there is a revenue model, we can't expect any service
>> of
>> quality to come to us.
>>
>> Besides this there were other issues I would like to highlight.
>>
>> 1 There were about 140 who registered online. Some sent advanced
>> information, they were unable to come. However, there was a good number
>> who
>> did not bother to inform. Food and other logistic arrangements were made
>> for
>> them. This has all got waste. There is a cost to all that and more
>> importantly an moral obligation to inform before hand.There were others
>> who
>> showed only on the first day and again they did not inform they were not
>> comming the second day.
>> 2 Delegates were chit chatting causing disturvance and disrespect to the
>> speakers. It was very upsetting when the speaker had to bluntly demand
>> silence. Friends, do we deserve such reprimand?
>>
>> The bottom line of all this is our insensitivity and lack of our sense of
>> being responsible citizen.
>>
>> If we don't correct ourselves, we will have to pay a huge price for this.
>> Already we have an adverse mindset and this will only go to strengthen
>> them.
>>
>> This is not a finger pointing exercise it is for us to reflect and to
>> correct our course.
>>
>> Harish Kotian.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Vikas Kapoor
>> Sent: 17 February 2014 23:13
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discu

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[avinash shahi]

Those who are saying they have paid from 500 to 10,000 to attend
confrences doesn't really drive the idea that one should pay and
attend. And more you pay better the confrence. no guarantee. Just one
example quality academicians including Nome Chomsky and Michael Sandle
have refused to write for Journals which charge readers exorbitant
amount. Knowledge Dissimination on Internet for free is picking
momentum and being in one of the poorest countries, we should support
such movements. Cambridge and Oxford Universities have already started
circulating their lectures for free on Youtube.
And HereI should inform you sir. In Jawaharlal Nehru University Which
is buzz with talks and seminars, No student ever pays for attending
any confrence and outsiders are equally invited. State is bound to
release financial outlay to be invested for
confrences/seminars/conventions.
I will be a faculty in one or the other universities for sure. But
state will take care of my needs but economically modest Students will
not be burdened to pay.

And Harish Sir Sorry to read from you
block quote
We must rise above the begging bowl mindset
block quote end
Please you being the moderator of a reputed mailing list such written
expression is unwarranted.
Who beggs is very subjective notion, those who demand rights from the
state? or those who find money from corporates which covertly drive
where it is to be invested.
On 2/18/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Dear Avinash
>
> I really need to respond to you.
> 1 When a fee is set, it is clear it is not free lunch and you need to pay.
> Sneeking in clandestinely is not acceptable.
> 2 On the request of members we cut the registration by 50% to all.
> Thereafter no one complained about the cost.
> 3 We kept the window open for those who could not afford this amount as
> well.
>
> Regarding your arguement,
> " nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
> ethics of knowledge disssimination."
> I am apauled to see the word "ethics" being used in this context. With
> respect to the remaining words "knowledge discimination" so all those who
> provide knowledge including centres of knowledge should do so free and the
> teachers should not charge anything for this.
>
> I would look forward for you to do so in the comming days.
>
> Coming to the point.
> 1 We must rise above the begging bowl mindset.
> 2 We must pay for services for which you are expected to pay.
> 3 Until and unless there is a revenue model, we can't expect any service of
> quality to come to us.
>
> Besides this there were other issues I would like to highlight.
>
> 1 There were about 140 who registered online. Some sent advanced
> information, they were unable to come. However, there was a good number who
> did not bother to inform. Food and other logistic arrangements were made for
> them. This has all got waste. There is a cost to all that and more
> importantly an moral obligation to inform before hand.There were others who
> showed only on the first day and again they did not inform they were not
> comming the second day.
> 2 Delegates were chit chatting causing disturvance and disrespect to the
> speakers. It was very upsetting when the speaker had to bluntly demand
> silence. Friends, do we deserve such reprimand?
>
> The bottom line of all this is our insensitivity and lack of our sense of
> being responsible citizen.
>
> If we don't correct ourselves, we will have to pay a huge price for this.
> Already we have an adverse mindset and this will only go to strengthen
> them.
>
> This is not a finger pointing exercise it is for us to reflect and to
> correct our course.
>
> Harish Kotian.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Vikas Kapoor
> Sent: 17 February 2014 23:13
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>
> On the contrary, I've attended several conferences which charge Rs.500 to
> Rs.1000 as registration fee. Everything doesn't work on sponsorship. I
> don't
> think that this list did anything wrong to make it a huge success! Whether
> somebody has the ability to pay for it or not is entirely a different
> matter
> altogether.
> - Original Message -
> From: "avinash shahi" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>
>
> I've attended countless confrences and seminars of utmost repute but
> nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
> ethics of knowl

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Kotian, H P]

Dear Avinash

I really need to respond to you.
1 When a fee is set, it is clear it is not free lunch and you need to pay. 
Sneeking in clandestinely is not acceptable.
2 On the request of members we cut the registration by 50% to all. Thereafter 
no one complained about the cost.
3 We kept the window open for those who could not afford this amount as well.

Regarding your arguement,
" nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
ethics of knowledge disssimination."
I am apauled to see the word "ethics" being used in this context. With respect 
to the remaining words "knowledge discimination" so all those who provide 
knowledge including centres of knowledge should do so free and the teachers 
should not charge anything for this.

I would look forward for you to do so in the comming days.

Coming to the point.
1 We must rise above the begging bowl mindset.
2 We must pay for services for which you are expected to pay.
3 Until and unless there is a revenue model, we can't expect any service of 
quality to come to us.

Besides this there were other issues I would like to highlight.

1 There were about 140 who registered online. Some sent advanced information, 
they were unable to come. However, there was a good number who did not bother 
to inform. Food and other logistic arrangements were made for them. This has 
all got waste. There is a cost to all that and more importantly an moral 
obligation to inform before hand.There were others who showed only on the first 
day and again they did not inform they were not comming the second day.
2 Delegates were chit chatting causing disturvance and disrespect to the 
speakers. It was very upsetting when the speaker had to bluntly demand silence. 
Friends, do we deserve such reprimand?

The bottom line of all this is our insensitivity and lack of our sense of being 
responsible citizen.

If we don't correct ourselves, we will have to pay a huge price for this. 
Already we have an adverse mindset and this will only go to strengthen them.

This is not a finger pointing exercise it is for us to reflect and to correct 
our course.

Harish Kotian.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vikas Kapoor
Sent: 17 February 2014 23:13
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

On the contrary, I've attended several conferences which charge Rs.500 to
Rs.1000 as registration fee. Everything doesn't work on sponsorship. I don't
think that this list did anything wrong to make it a huge success! Whether
somebody has the ability to pay for it or not is entirely a different matter
altogether.
- Original Message -
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention


I've attended countless confrences and seminars of utmost repute but
nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
ethics of knowledge disssimination.
But what you wrote
Block quote
I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he
would sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined
but did not have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer.
Then, why this indulgence?
block quote end
Please understand nobody wants someone should sponser somebody's
attendance in any paid convention anywhere in the world. I heard many
reputed intellectuals and individuals attended talks and exhibitions
but didn't touch food in fact tea.
So such allegation is unwarranted. Please if we really wish to
dissiminate knowledge and quality information to those who truly
cherish such conventions , let us rise much ahead from such
restrictive restrictions.
If we can find sponsers for minny events there is not difficulty in
arranging money for those who wish to excell in life despite
undescribable miseries. But such arrangements have to be made without
letting people know who did such wonders.
arranging money is not a big deal at all we are capable to find
contributers from all hues.
I just responded because didn't find this allegation acceptable
publicklly for those who don't have mere money.
Regards

On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> All
>
> This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back home
> after this event.
>
> Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to
> see
> the delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the audotorium.
> I
> guess the purpose of this convention got largely achieved.
>
> I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care to
> make the stay comfortable and to put the logistics in place. I do express
> my
> satisfaction

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[avinash shahi]

Undoubtedly arrangement was supurb as I already expressed my joy. And
of course George sir's  tireless efforts deserves kudos.
But please don't construe that I raised mere monitary issue, In fact
many young unemployed college going adults couldn't attend because
they didn't have aditional 500 from their budget to attend.
Don't they deserve 'quality Conventions?
At least listening talks and visiting exhibition should not be charged
anywhere. paid food coopones is justified.
Overall awesome experience but we should not restrain from analysing
both the sides.

On 2/18/14, Siddharth sharma  wrote:
> Hi avinash, the convention is now over and i guess a majority of delegates
> went home happy  and enriched with info and also had an oppurtunity to
> interact with many luminaries across the board.i think its in poor taste to
> rake up monetary issues at this stage and on the conterary you must reach
> out and thank those who made it happen against all odds.in my field i attend
> conferences where we pay a couple of thousands per day but then you tend too
> take back a lot to!please be positive and think of the good times shared
> during the weekend gone by.warm regards,siddharth
> sharma,partner&ceo,foundations pr,new delhi
> -Original Message-
> From: avinash shahi
> Sent:  17/02/2014, 11:43  pm
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>   the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>
>
> Dear Nikita
> I didn't hint that Convention had any objectionable trait. in fact it
> was simply briliant. All speakers were simply superb whom I listened.
> But I just responded to a aspect where Mony became the focle
> targetting point for those who are struggling from pillar to post to
> earn money. Its not only a mattter of skills/earning capacity but what
> we yearn to give to this society as somewhat privileged individuals.
>
> On 2/17/14, Nikita Jain  wrote:
>> Dear Avinash,
>>
>> Communication always helps. If you have visited conventions and have met
>> intellectuals and have had such good experience then why don't you share
>> it
>> well in time. There was time before convention which was comfortably
>> wasted. Point I am trying to make here is that this is not the right time
>> to complain instead e need to understand our difference of thoughts and
>> deal with it amicably. Convention went well but could have been better if
>> all of us could communicated their thoughts on time.
>>
>> Hope you understood.
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Nikita Jain
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 17 February 2014 23:12, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>>
>>> On the contrary, I've attended several conferences which charge Rs.500
>>> to
>>> Rs.1000 as registration fee. Everything doesn't work on sponsorship. I
>>> don't
>>> think that this list did anything wrong to make it a huge success!
>>> Whether
>>> somebody has the ability to pay for it or not is entirely a different
>>> matter
>>> altogether.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "avinash shahi" 
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerningthe disabled." 
>>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>>>
>>>
>>> I've attended countless confrences and seminars of utmost repute but
>>> nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
>>> ethics of knowledge disssimination.
>>> But what you wrote
>>> Block quote
>>> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he
>>> would sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined
>>> but did not have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer.
>>> Then, why this indulgence?
>>> block quote end
>>> Please understand nobody wants someone should sponser somebody's
>>> attendance in any paid convention anywhere in the world. I heard many
>>> reputed intellectuals and individuals attended talks and exhibitions
>>> but didn't touch food in fact tea.
>>> So such allegation is unwarranted. Please if we really wish to
>>> dissiminate knowledge and quality information to those who truly
>>> cherish such conventions , let us rise much ahead from such
>>> restrictive restrictions.
>>> If we can find sponsers for minny events there is not difficulty in
>>> arranging money for those who wish to excell in life despite
>>> undescribable miseries. 

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Amar Jain]

Surprised to see contrary view on the stand to pay the charges.

We are talking of 500, in law we have conferences wherein we pay
normally anything starting from 5000. And again, the whole idea
remains quality decemination of knowledge.

If people didn't pay, it was fine. But despite not paying if you have
availed any of the facilities, then it surely does not go well with
the spirit of the convention and the hard work of the organizers. And
as far as I understand, then this is exactly what prompted Harish sir
to write that statement in his email.

I don't think anyone should have mind paying 500 not only for the
quality sessions which we had, but also just for the mere interaction
with all the people present there. And trust me this is not about the
capacity, this is about you recognizing the effort of so many
individuals who with the limited resources came together to organize
this event for us.

Regards,
-- 
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com



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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[George Abraham]

The shocker was that a senior professor who is blind , working Delhi
University attended, gobbled food and refused to pay. Ironic isn't it?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of li...@srinivasu.org
Sent: 18 February 2014 09:06
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Cc: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

Completely agre with Vikas and in fact many conferences do not event print
your delegate badge unless they receive a clear payment. Even keeping
anything free will not get any value. 

As a person working behind the scene, I know how difficult it was to get
sponsorship. In fact, until a day before the convention, there was a huge
confusion and we were not sure if at all we get the sponsorship. Thanks to
George who worked over the night to make if happen. 

I'll be blunt here, whoever is not paid the fee, please do so immediately. 

Whoever think everything should be free I would say start organising events
without compromising on the quality and you will realize. 

Last I say that even I have attended conferences by paying 1 INR which
does not include food.  

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

> On 17-Feb-2014, at 23:12, "Vikas Kapoor"  wrote:
> 
> On the contrary, I've attended several conferences which charge Rs.500 to

> Rs.1000 as registration fee. Everything doesn't work on sponsorship. I
don't 
> think that this list did anything wrong to make it a huge success!
Whether 
> somebody has the ability to pay for it or not is entirely a different
matter 
> altogether.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "avinash shahi" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
> 
> 
> I've attended countless confrences and seminars of utmost repute but
> nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
> ethics of knowledge disssimination.
> But what you wrote
> Block quote
> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he
> would sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined
> but did not have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer.
> Then, why this indulgence?
> block quote end
> Please understand nobody wants someone should sponser somebody's
> attendance in any paid convention anywhere in the world. I heard many
> reputed intellectuals and individuals attended talks and exhibitions
> but didn't touch food in fact tea.
> So such allegation is unwarranted. Please if we really wish to
> dissiminate knowledge and quality information to those who truly
> cherish such conventions , let us rise much ahead from such
> restrictive restrictions.
> If we can find sponsers for minny events there is not difficulty in
> arranging money for those who wish to excell in life despite
> undescribable miseries. But such arrangements have to be made without
> letting people know who did such wonders.
> arranging money is not a big deal at all we are capable to find
> contributers from all hues.
> I just responded because didn't find this allegation acceptable
> publicklly for those who don't have mere money.
> Regards
> 
>> On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>> All
>> 
>> This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back home
>> after this event.
>> 
>> Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to 
>> see
>> the delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the
audotorium. 
>> I
>> guess the purpose of this convention got largely achieved.
>> 
>> I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care to
>> make the stay comfortable and to put the logistics in place. I do
express 
>> my
>> satisfaction with the presentation and the rich hue of topics which got
>> touched in these two days.
>> 
>> I saw a lot of bonding and strengthen friendships in these last 2 days. 
>> This
>> is really my yardstick to look at the convention.
>> 
>> What made me very upset that, I was told, some persons had not paid up
for
>> the convention and sneaked in to the various events. This is not right
at
>> all. I take it on myself, that, we haven't been able to raise above such
>> trifle slips. Such folks are a blot to the community. What they don't
>> realise that, these things also come into notice and gives reason to
think
>> ill about us. Each on

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[li...@srinivasu.org]

Completely agre with Vikas and in fact many conferences do not event print your 
delegate badge unless they receive a clear payment. Even keeping anything free 
will not get any value. 

As a person working behind the scene, I know how difficult it was to get 
sponsorship. In fact, until a day before the convention, there was a huge 
confusion and we were not sure if at all we get the sponsorship. Thanks to 
George who worked over the night to make if happen. 

I'll be blunt here, whoever is not paid the fee, please do so immediately. 

Whoever think everything should be free I would say start organising events 
without compromising on the quality and you will realize. 

Last I say that even I have attended conferences by paying 1 INR which does 
not include food.  

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

> On 17-Feb-2014, at 23:12, "Vikas Kapoor"  wrote:
> 
> On the contrary, I've attended several conferences which charge Rs.500 to 
> Rs.1000 as registration fee. Everything doesn't work on sponsorship. I don't 
> think that this list did anything wrong to make it a huge success! Whether 
> somebody has the ability to pay for it or not is entirely a different matter 
> altogether.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "avinash shahi" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
> 
> 
> I've attended countless confrences and seminars of utmost repute but
> nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
> ethics of knowledge disssimination.
> But what you wrote
> Block quote
> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he
> would sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined
> but did not have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer.
> Then, why this indulgence?
> block quote end
> Please understand nobody wants someone should sponser somebody's
> attendance in any paid convention anywhere in the world. I heard many
> reputed intellectuals and individuals attended talks and exhibitions
> but didn't touch food in fact tea.
> So such allegation is unwarranted. Please if we really wish to
> dissiminate knowledge and quality information to those who truly
> cherish such conventions , let us rise much ahead from such
> restrictive restrictions.
> If we can find sponsers for minny events there is not difficulty in
> arranging money for those who wish to excell in life despite
> undescribable miseries. But such arrangements have to be made without
> letting people know who did such wonders.
> arranging money is not a big deal at all we are capable to find
> contributers from all hues.
> I just responded because didn't find this allegation acceptable
> publicklly for those who don't have mere money.
> Regards
> 
>> On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>> All
>> 
>> This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back home
>> after this event.
>> 
>> Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to 
>> see
>> the delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the audotorium. 
>> I
>> guess the purpose of this convention got largely achieved.
>> 
>> I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care to
>> make the stay comfortable and to put the logistics in place. I do express 
>> my
>> satisfaction with the presentation and the rich hue of topics which got
>> touched in these two days.
>> 
>> I saw a lot of bonding and strengthen friendships in these last 2 days. 
>> This
>> is really my yardstick to look at the convention.
>> 
>> What made me very upset that, I was told, some persons had not paid up for
>> the convention and sneaked in to the various events. This is not right at
>> all. I take it on myself, that, we haven't been able to raise above such
>> trifle slips. Such folks are a blot to the community. What they don't
>> realise that, these things also come into notice and gives reason to think
>> ill about us. Each one of us are ambassadors in their own rights.
>> 
>> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he 
>> would
>> sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined but did not
>> have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer. Then, why this
>> indulgence?
>> 
>> Well, friends thanks for all those who put small and big efforts and all 
>> the
>> delegates who came along from many states of the country.It was 

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Siddharth sharma]

Hi avinash, the convention is now over and i guess a majority of delegates went 
home happy  and enriched with info and also had an oppurtunity to interact with 
many luminaries across the board.i think its in poor taste to rake up monetary 
issues at this stage and on the conterary you must reach out and thank those 
who made it happen against all odds.in my field i attend conferences where we 
pay a couple of thousands per day but then you tend too take back a lot 
to!please be positive and think of the good times shared during the weekend 
gone by.warm regards,siddharth sharma,partner&ceo,foundations pr,new delhi
-Original Message-
From: avinash shahi
Sent:  17/02/2014, 11:43  pm
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention


Dear Nikita
I didn't hint that Convention had any objectionable trait. in fact it
was simply briliant. All speakers were simply superb whom I listened.
But I just responded to a aspect where Mony became the focle
targetting point for those who are struggling from pillar to post to
earn money. Its not only a mattter of skills/earning capacity but what
we yearn to give to this society as somewhat privileged individuals.

On 2/17/14, Nikita Jain  wrote:
> Dear Avinash,
>
> Communication always helps. If you have visited conventions and have met
> intellectuals and have had such good experience then why don't you share it
> well in time. There was time before convention which was comfortably
> wasted. Point I am trying to make here is that this is not the right time
> to complain instead e need to understand our difference of thoughts and
> deal with it amicably. Convention went well but could have been better if
> all of us could communicated their thoughts on time.
>
> Hope you understood.
>
> Warmly,
> Nikita Jain
>
>
>
>
>
> On 17 February 2014 23:12, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>
>> On the contrary, I've attended several conferences which charge Rs.500 to
>> Rs.1000 as registration fee. Everything doesn't work on sponsorship. I
>> don't
>> think that this list did anything wrong to make it a huge success!
>> Whether
>> somebody has the ability to pay for it or not is entirely a different
>> matter
>> altogether.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "avinash shahi" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>>
>>
>> I've attended countless confrences and seminars of utmost repute but
>> nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
>> ethics of knowledge disssimination.
>> But what you wrote
>> Block quote
>> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he
>> would sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined
>> but did not have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer.
>> Then, why this indulgence?
>> block quote end
>> Please understand nobody wants someone should sponser somebody's
>> attendance in any paid convention anywhere in the world. I heard many
>> reputed intellectuals and individuals attended talks and exhibitions
>> but didn't touch food in fact tea.
>> So such allegation is unwarranted. Please if we really wish to
>> dissiminate knowledge and quality information to those who truly
>> cherish such conventions , let us rise much ahead from such
>> restrictive restrictions.
>> If we can find sponsers for minny events there is not difficulty in
>> arranging money for those who wish to excell in life despite
>> undescribable miseries. But such arrangements have to be made without
>> letting people know who did such wonders.
>> arranging money is not a big deal at all we are capable to find
>> contributers from all hues.
>> I just responded because didn't find this allegation acceptable
>> publicklly for those who don't have mere money.
>> Regards
>>
>> On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>> > All
>> >
>> > This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back
>> > home
>> > after this event.
>> >
>> > Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to
>> > see
>> > the delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the
>> audotorium.
>> > I
>> > guess the purpose of this convention got largely achieved.
>> >
>> > I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care
>> > to
>> &

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[avinash shahi]

Dear Nikita
I didn't hint that Convention had any objectionable trait. in fact it
was simply briliant. All speakers were simply superb whom I listened.
But I just responded to a aspect where Mony became the focle
targetting point for those who are struggling from pillar to post to
earn money. Its not only a mattter of skills/earning capacity but what
we yearn to give to this society as somewhat privileged individuals.

On 2/17/14, Nikita Jain  wrote:
> Dear Avinash,
>
> Communication always helps. If you have visited conventions and have met
> intellectuals and have had such good experience then why don't you share it
> well in time. There was time before convention which was comfortably
> wasted. Point I am trying to make here is that this is not the right time
> to complain instead e need to understand our difference of thoughts and
> deal with it amicably. Convention went well but could have been better if
> all of us could communicated their thoughts on time.
>
> Hope you understood.
>
> Warmly,
> Nikita Jain
>
>
>
>
>
> On 17 February 2014 23:12, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>
>> On the contrary, I've attended several conferences which charge Rs.500 to
>> Rs.1000 as registration fee. Everything doesn't work on sponsorship. I
>> don't
>> think that this list did anything wrong to make it a huge success!
>> Whether
>> somebody has the ability to pay for it or not is entirely a different
>> matter
>> altogether.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "avinash shahi" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>>
>>
>> I've attended countless confrences and seminars of utmost repute but
>> nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
>> ethics of knowledge disssimination.
>> But what you wrote
>> Block quote
>> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he
>> would sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined
>> but did not have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer.
>> Then, why this indulgence?
>> block quote end
>> Please understand nobody wants someone should sponser somebody's
>> attendance in any paid convention anywhere in the world. I heard many
>> reputed intellectuals and individuals attended talks and exhibitions
>> but didn't touch food in fact tea.
>> So such allegation is unwarranted. Please if we really wish to
>> dissiminate knowledge and quality information to those who truly
>> cherish such conventions , let us rise much ahead from such
>> restrictive restrictions.
>> If we can find sponsers for minny events there is not difficulty in
>> arranging money for those who wish to excell in life despite
>> undescribable miseries. But such arrangements have to be made without
>> letting people know who did such wonders.
>> arranging money is not a big deal at all we are capable to find
>> contributers from all hues.
>> I just responded because didn't find this allegation acceptable
>> publicklly for those who don't have mere money.
>> Regards
>>
>> On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
>> > All
>> >
>> > This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back
>> > home
>> > after this event.
>> >
>> > Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to
>> > see
>> > the delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the
>> audotorium.
>> > I
>> > guess the purpose of this convention got largely achieved.
>> >
>> > I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care
>> > to
>> > make the stay comfortable and to put the logistics in place. I do
>> > express
>> > my
>> > satisfaction with the presentation and the rich hue of topics which got
>> > touched in these two days.
>> >
>> > I saw a lot of bonding and strengthen friendships in these last 2 days.
>> > This
>> > is really my yardstick to look at the convention.
>> >
>> > What made me very upset that, I was told, some persons had not paid up
>> for
>> > the convention and sneaked in to the various events. This is not right
>> > at
>> > all. I take it on myself, that, we haven't been able to raise above
>> > such
>> > trifle slips. Such folks are a blot to th

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Nikita Jain]

Dear Avinash,

Communication always helps. If you have visited conventions and have met
intellectuals and have had such good experience then why don't you share it
well in time. There was time before convention which was comfortably
wasted. Point I am trying to make here is that this is not the right time
to complain instead e need to understand our difference of thoughts and
deal with it amicably. Convention went well but could have been better if
all of us could communicated their thoughts on time.

Hope you understood.

Warmly,
Nikita Jain





On 17 February 2014 23:12, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:

> On the contrary, I've attended several conferences which charge Rs.500 to
> Rs.1000 as registration fee. Everything doesn't work on sponsorship. I
> don't
> think that this list did anything wrong to make it a huge success! Whether
> somebody has the ability to pay for it or not is entirely a different
> matter
> altogether.
> - Original Message -
> From: "avinash shahi" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>
>
> I've attended countless confrences and seminars of utmost repute but
> nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
> ethics of knowledge disssimination.
> But what you wrote
> Block quote
> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he
> would sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined
> but did not have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer.
> Then, why this indulgence?
> block quote end
> Please understand nobody wants someone should sponser somebody's
> attendance in any paid convention anywhere in the world. I heard many
> reputed intellectuals and individuals attended talks and exhibitions
> but didn't touch food in fact tea.
> So such allegation is unwarranted. Please if we really wish to
> dissiminate knowledge and quality information to those who truly
> cherish such conventions , let us rise much ahead from such
> restrictive restrictions.
> If we can find sponsers for minny events there is not difficulty in
> arranging money for those who wish to excell in life despite
> undescribable miseries. But such arrangements have to be made without
> letting people know who did such wonders.
> arranging money is not a big deal at all we are capable to find
> contributers from all hues.
> I just responded because didn't find this allegation acceptable
> publicklly for those who don't have mere money.
> Regards
>
> On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> > All
> >
> > This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back home
> > after this event.
> >
> > Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to
> > see
> > the delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the
> audotorium.
> > I
> > guess the purpose of this convention got largely achieved.
> >
> > I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care to
> > make the stay comfortable and to put the logistics in place. I do express
> > my
> > satisfaction with the presentation and the rich hue of topics which got
> > touched in these two days.
> >
> > I saw a lot of bonding and strengthen friendships in these last 2 days.
> > This
> > is really my yardstick to look at the convention.
> >
> > What made me very upset that, I was told, some persons had not paid up
> for
> > the convention and sneaked in to the various events. This is not right at
> > all. I take it on myself, that, we haven't been able to raise above such
> > trifle slips. Such folks are a blot to the community. What they don't
> > realise that, these things also come into notice and gives reason to
> think
> > ill about us. Each one of us are ambassadors in their own rights.
> >
> > I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he
> > would
> > sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined but did not
> > have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer. Then, why this
> > indulgence?
> >
> > Well, friends thanks for all those who put small and big efforts and all
> > the
> > delegates who came along from many states of the country.It was nice to
> be
> > with each one of you.
> > Warmly
> > Harish Kotian.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, smses or makes
> calls
> > asking for personal infor

Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Vikas Kapoor]

On the contrary, I've attended several conferences which charge Rs.500 to 
Rs.1000 as registration fee. Everything doesn't work on sponsorship. I don't 
think that this list did anything wrong to make it a huge success! Whether 
somebody has the ability to pay for it or not is entirely a different matter 
altogether.
- Original Message - 
From: "avinash shahi" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention


I've attended countless confrences and seminars of utmost repute but
nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
ethics of knowledge disssimination.
But what you wrote
Block quote
I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he
would sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined
but did not have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer.
Then, why this indulgence?
block quote end
Please understand nobody wants someone should sponser somebody's
attendance in any paid convention anywhere in the world. I heard many
reputed intellectuals and individuals attended talks and exhibitions
but didn't touch food in fact tea.
So such allegation is unwarranted. Please if we really wish to
dissiminate knowledge and quality information to those who truly
cherish such conventions , let us rise much ahead from such
restrictive restrictions.
If we can find sponsers for minny events there is not difficulty in
arranging money for those who wish to excell in life despite
undescribable miseries. But such arrangements have to be made without
letting people know who did such wonders.
arranging money is not a big deal at all we are capable to find
contributers from all hues.
I just responded because didn't find this allegation acceptable
publicklly for those who don't have mere money.
Regards

On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> All
>
> This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back home
> after this event.
>
> Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to 
> see
> the delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the audotorium. 
> I
> guess the purpose of this convention got largely achieved.
>
> I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care to
> make the stay comfortable and to put the logistics in place. I do express 
> my
> satisfaction with the presentation and the rich hue of topics which got
> touched in these two days.
>
> I saw a lot of bonding and strengthen friendships in these last 2 days. 
> This
> is really my yardstick to look at the convention.
>
> What made me very upset that, I was told, some persons had not paid up for
> the convention and sneaked in to the various events. This is not right at
> all. I take it on myself, that, we haven't been able to raise above such
> trifle slips. Such folks are a blot to the community. What they don't
> realise that, these things also come into notice and gives reason to think
> ill about us. Each one of us are ambassadors in their own rights.
>
> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he 
> would
> sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined but did not
> have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer. Then, why this
> indulgence?
>
> Well, friends thanks for all those who put small and big efforts and all 
> the
> delegates who came along from many states of the country.It was nice to be
> with each one of you.
> Warmly
> Harish Kotian.
>
>
>
> 
> Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, smses or makes calls
> asking for personal information like your bank account details, passwords,
> etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. Please do not respond in 
> any
> manner to such offers, however official or attractive they may look.
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[avinash shahi]

I've attended countless confrences and seminars of utmost repute but
nobody charges penny for atending any confrences. It is against the
ethics of knowledge disssimination.
But what you wrote
Block quote
I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he
would sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined
but did not have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer.
Then, why this indulgence?
block quote end
Please understand nobody wants someone should sponser somebody's
attendance in any paid convention anywhere in the world. I heard many
reputed intellectuals and individuals attended talks and exhibitions
but didn't touch food in fact tea.
So such allegation is unwarranted. Please if we really wish to
dissiminate knowledge and quality information to those who truly
cherish such conventions , let us rise much ahead from such
restrictive restrictions.
If we can find sponsers for minny events there is not difficulty in
arranging money for those who wish to excell in life despite
undescribable miseries. But such arrangements have to be made without
letting people know who did such wonders.
arranging money is not a big deal at all we are capable to find
contributers from all hues.
I just responded because didn't find this allegation acceptable
publicklly for those who don't have mere money.
Regards

On 2/17/14, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> All
>
> This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back home
> after this event.
>
> Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to see
> the delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the audotorium. I
> guess the purpose of this convention got largely achieved.
>
> I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care to
> make the stay comfortable and to put the logistics in place. I do express my
> satisfaction with the presentation and the rich hue of topics which got
> touched in these two days.
>
> I saw a lot of bonding and strengthen friendships in these last 2 days. This
> is really my yardstick to look at the convention.
>
> What made me very upset that, I was told, some persons had not paid up for
> the convention and sneaked in to the various events. This is not right at
> all. I take it on myself, that, we haven't been able to raise above such
> trifle slips. Such folks are a blot to the community. What they don't
> realise that, these things also come into notice and gives reason to think
> ill about us. Each one of us are ambassadors in their own rights.
>
> I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he would
> sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined but did not
> have the funds for it. No one approached for this offer. Then, why this
> indulgence?
>
> Well, friends thanks for all those who put small and big efforts and all the
> delegates who came along from many states of the country.It was nice to be
> with each one of you.
> Warmly
> Harish Kotian.
>
>
>
> 
> Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, smses or makes calls
> asking for personal information like your bank account details, passwords,
> etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. Please do not respond in any
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[AI] AccessIndia convention

[Kotian, H P]

All

This time the mail is not regarding convention update . Back home after 
this event.

Glad all the speakers graced their sessions and it was heart warming to see the 
delegates participating enthusiastically in and out of the audotorium. I guess 
the purpose of this convention got largely achieved.

I must thank George and the score foundation who took meticulous care to make 
the stay comfortable and to put the logistics in place. I do express my 
satisfaction with the presentation and the rich hue of topics which got touched 
in these two days.

I saw a lot of bonding and strengthen friendships in these last 2 days. This is 
really my yardstick to look at the convention.

What made me very upset that, I was told, some persons had not paid up for the 
convention and sneaked in to the various events. This is not right at all. I 
take it on myself, that, we haven't been able to raise above such trifle slips. 
Such folks are a blot to the community. What they don't realise that, these 
things also come into notice and gives reason to think ill about us. Each one 
of us are ambassadors in their own rights.

I had also put in the list, we had an offer from our delagate, that he would 
sponsor the registration cost in case someone was so inclined but did not have 
the funds for it. No one approached for this offer. Then, why this indulgence?

Well, friends thanks for all those who put small and big efforts and all the 
delegates who came along from many states of the country.It was nice to be with 
each one of you.
Warmly
Harish Kotian.




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Re: [AI] accessindia convention

[Raj Debbarma]

On 11/19/11, Raj Debbarma  wrote:
> This is also my first  convenssion.
>  Yes it  was  a wonderful experience.
>  Even my point of view entire convenssion was brilliant. HAT’S off to
> moderater AND  chakshumati for their BRILLIANT efforts TO MAKE SUCH AN
> UNBELIEVABLE convenssion.
> HONESTLY I DON'T HAVE ANY WORD TO EXPLAIN.
> thanks to the moderater and chakshumati.
> CHEERS..
>  RAJ DEBBARMAN
> NO: +919545810447
>
>
>
>
> On 11/18/11, Krishnan  wrote:
>> hi friends,
>> yes, indeed it is a memmorable event. i extend my sincere thanks to the
>> access india and shakshumathi officials for their tireless effort to make
>> the event  a grand success.  i am expecting this venture will be an
>> inspiration  to other organisation to work for the cause of visually
>> challenged or other disabled people.
>> krishnan m. moothimoola.
>> - Original Message -----
>> From: "tkg" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:27 PM
>> Subject: [AI] accessindia convention
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Dear   friends
>>> it is for  the first time that i have  participaated in the access
>>> india convenssion.
>>>
>>> in my point of view it was , a very   memorable
>>> occasion. it
>>> is an oppurtunity to get first hand experience  from the presentation
>>> and demonstrations,on the other hand it gives  more friends from the
>>> different parts  of
>>> india.mor over it is an occasion to meet the persons that we had known
>>> from their mails.
>>>
>>> thanks to the moderater and chakshumati.
>>> regards
>>> gopi t k
>>> Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13)  at:
>>> http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
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Re: [AI] accessindia convention

[Raj Debbarma]

This is also my first  convenssion.
 Yes it  was  a wonderful experience.
 Even my point of view entire convenssion was brilliant. HAT’S off to
moderater AND  chakshumati for their BRILLIANT efforts TO MAKE SUCH AN
UNBELIEVABLE convenssion.
HONESTLY I DON'T HAVE ANY WORD TO EXPLAIN.
thanks to the moderater and chakshumati.
CHEERS..
 RAJ DEBBARMAN
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On 11/18/11, Krishnan  wrote:
> hi friends,
> yes, indeed it is a memmorable event. i extend my sincere thanks to the
> access india and shakshumathi officials for their tireless effort to make
> the event  a grand success.  i am expecting this venture will be an
> inspiration  to other organisation to work for the cause of visually
> challenged or other disabled people.
> krishnan m. moothimoola.
> - Original Message -
> From: "tkg" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:27 PM
> Subject: [AI] accessindia convention
>
>
>>
>> Dear   friends
>> it is for  the first time that i have  participaated in the access
>> india convenssion.
>>
>> in my point of view it was , a very   memorable
>> occasion. it
>> is an oppurtunity to get first hand experience  from the presentation
>> and demonstrations,on the other hand it gives  more friends from the
>> different parts  of
>> india.mor over it is an occasion to meet the persons that we had known
>> from their mails.
>>
>> thanks to the moderater and chakshumati.
>> regards
>> gopi t k
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Re: [AI] accessindia convention

[Krishnan]

hi friends,
yes, indeed it is a memmorable event. i extend my sincere thanks to the 
access india and shakshumathi officials for their tireless effort to make 
the event  a grand success.  i am expecting this venture will be an 
inspiration  to other organisation to work for the cause of visually 
challenged or other disabled people.

krishnan m. moothimoola.
- Original Message - 
From: "tkg" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 7:27 PM
Subject: [AI] accessindia convention




Dear   friends
it is for  the first time that i have  participaated in the access
india convenssion.

in my point of view it was , a very   memorable
occasion. it
is an oppurtunity to get first hand experience  from the presentation
and demonstrations,on the other hand it gives  more friends from the
different parts  of
india.mor over it is an occasion to meet the persons that we had known
from their mails.

thanks to the moderater and chakshumati.
regards
gopi t k
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[AI] accessindia convention

[tkg]

 Dear   friends
it is for  the first time that i have  participaated in the access
india convenssion.

in my point of view it was , a very   memorable
occasion. it
 is an oppurtunity to get first hand experience  from the presentation
and demonstrations,on the other hand it gives  more friends from the
different parts  of
india.mor over it is an occasion to meet the persons that we had known
from their mails.

thanks to the moderater and chakshumati.
regards
gopi t k
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[AI] AccessIndia convention registration URL

[Kotian, H P]

Hi Amjad

You can use any of the 2 URL's:
www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm
www.sahaayit.com/2011/convention.htm

Regards
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Sir
Please communicate the final dates of our wonderful get together as soon as 
possible so that we may plan.
Though it seems due to personal reasons, I may not be able to make to it in the 
last quarter of this year,  but do let me know if I could be of any 
assistance...


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[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Harish Kotian
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:42 PM
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Subject: [AI] AccessIndia convention

Hello All

It gives me pleasure in finalising the venue of the next convention, and the 
host city is going to be  the capital of "God's own land": at 
Thiruvananthapuram!.

This is an early announcement especially put out to help members book 
reservation for travel. The dates are going to be Saturday and Sunday of 
October 22 & 23.

These dates shall give members a good opportunity to plan interesting holidays 
arround this places.

More announcements regarding this shall be communicated in due course.

In the mean time, you can starting making your wish list for the things you 
would like to do during this convention.

Warmly
Harish Kotian
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[mukesh jain]

hello,
my hearty congratulations for upcoming convention.

may i know about accomodation arrangement because i have learnt that
in dipwali season the hotels are likely to be packed so if i know the
venu then i can start looking for the hotels near bye to the
convention venu.

thanks,

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>>this regard.
>>
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>>Hello All
>>
>>It gives me pleasure in finalising the venue of the next convention, and
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>>Thiruvananthapuram!.
>>
>>This is an early announcement especially put out to help members book
>>reservation for travel. The dates are going to be Saturday and Sunday of
>>October 22 & 23.
>>
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>>
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>>
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hi my name is rohit gowlikar iam an applicant to the site  please inform me if 
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>
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>this regard.
>
>Amjad Ahmed FITWALA 
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>The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited , India
>52/60 Mahatma Gandhi Road Fort, Mumbai - 400 001 
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>Hello All
>
>It gives me pleasure in finalising the venue of the next convention, and 
>the host city is going to be  the capital of "God's own land": at 
>Thiruvananthapuram!.
>
>This is an early announcement especially put out to help members book 
>reservation for travel. The dates are going to be Saturday and Sunday of 
>October 22 & 23.
>
>These dates shall give members a good opportunity to plan interesting 
>holidays arround this places.
>
>More announcements regarding this shall be communicated in due course.
>
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>you would like to do during this convention.
>
>Warmly
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[amjadahmedfitwala]

Congratulation Harish Sir!!!

I was eagerly waiting for this opportunity and finally, you have confirmed 
the announcement of said convention. Please let me know if I can help in 
this regard.

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Date:
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Subject:
[AI] AccessIndia convention
Sent by:
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Hello All

It gives me pleasure in finalising the venue of the next convention, and 
the host city is going to be  the capital of "God's own land": at 
Thiruvananthapuram!.

This is an early announcement especially put out to help members book 
reservation for travel. The dates are going to be Saturday and Sunday of 
October 22 & 23.

These dates shall give members a good opportunity to plan interesting 
holidays arround this places.

More announcements regarding this shall be communicated in due course.

In the mean time, you can starting making your wish list for the things 
you would like to do during this convention.

Warmly
Harish Kotian
Moderator
AccessIndia.
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[harish]

Hi
I am afraid it will not be  possible . The auditorium is already booked.


Harish Kotian

- Original Message - 
From: "Balasaheb Londhe" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention


Dear Harish Sir, Diwali festival will start from 24 October. Therefore, 22nd
and 23rd October will be very difficult to adjust. If possible kindly
arrange the convention on 1st and 2nd October. These are the most suitable
dates for all.
- Original Message - 
From: "prateek aggarwal" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention


Wow, that’s a wonderful news!
Thanks a lot harish sir for providing this yet another opportunity of
meeting our dear accessindians.
I could not make for the last convention, but hoping to attend it this time.
Let me know if I can be of any help.

Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
Director, daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
www.daedaltechnovations.com

website:
www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
|
www.prateekagarwal.tk

-- Original message --
From: "Amit Bhatt" 
To: 
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:34:10 +0530
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
harish bhai,

Congratulation, I was also waiting for another convention.
do let me know if I can be of any help.

All the best,

Regards,

amit bhatt
- Original Message - From: "Harish Kotian" <
kot...@mtnl.net.in>
To: <
accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:42 PM
Subject: [AI] AccessIndia convention

block quote
Hello All

It gives me pleasure in finalising the venue of the next convention,
and the host city is going to be  the capital of "God's own land": at
Thiruvananthapuram!.

This is an early announcement especially put out to help members book
reservation for travel. The dates are going to be Saturday and Sunday
of October
22 & 23.

These dates shall give members a good opportunity to plan interesting
holidays arround this places.

More announcements regarding this shall be communicated in due course.

In the mean time, you can starting making your wish list for the
things you would like to do during this convention.

Warmly
Harish Kotian
Moderator
AccessIndia.
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Rohiet A. Patil]

Hi! I would like to ad further that in this vacation season, it will be very 
difficult to get the train reservations. People coming from other states 
have to trival a very long hours. So they can not come without confirm 
reservation.
- Original Message - 
From: "Balasaheb Londhe" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention


Dear Harish Sir, Diwali festival will start from 24 October. Therefore, 22nd
and 23rd October will be very difficult to adjust. If possible kindly
arrange the convention on 1st and 2nd October. These are the most suitable
dates for all.
- Original Message - 
From: "prateek aggarwal" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention


Wow, that’s a wonderful news!
Thanks a lot harish sir for providing this yet another opportunity of
meeting our dear accessindians.
I could not make for the last convention, but hoping to attend it this time.
Let me know if I can be of any help.

Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
Director, daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
www.daedaltechnovations.com

website:
www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
|
www.prateekagarwal.tk

-- Original message --
From: "Amit Bhatt" 
To: 
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:34:10 +0530
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
harish bhai,

Congratulation, I was also waiting for another convention.
do let me know if I can be of any help.

All the best,

Regards,

amit bhatt
- Original Message - From: "Harish Kotian" <
kot...@mtnl.net.in>
To: <
accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:42 PM
Subject: [AI] AccessIndia convention

block quote
Hello All

It gives me pleasure in finalising the venue of the next convention,
and the host city is going to be  the capital of "God's own land": at
Thiruvananthapuram!.

This is an early announcement especially put out to help members book
reservation for travel. The dates are going to be Saturday and Sunday
of October
22 & 23.

These dates shall give members a good opportunity to plan interesting
holidays arround this places.

More announcements regarding this shall be communicated in due course.

In the mean time, you can starting making your wish list for the
things you would like to do during this convention.

Warmly
Harish Kotian
Moderator
AccessIndia.
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Balasaheb Londhe]

Dear Harish Sir, Diwali festival will start from 24 October. Therefore, 22nd 
and 23rd October will be very difficult to adjust. If possible kindly 
arrange the convention on 1st and 2nd October. These are the most suitable 
dates for all.
- Original Message - 
From: "prateek aggarwal" 

To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention


Wow, that’s a wonderful news!
Thanks a lot harish sir for providing this yet another opportunity of
meeting our dear accessindians.
I could not make for the last convention, but hoping to attend it this time.
Let me know if I can be of any help.

Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
Director, daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
www.daedaltechnovations.com

website:
www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
|
www.prateekagarwal.tk

-- Original message --
From: "Amit Bhatt" 
To: 
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:34:10 +0530
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
harish bhai,

Congratulation, I was also waiting for another convention.
do let me know if I can be of any help.

All the best,

Regards,

amit bhatt
- Original Message - From: "Harish Kotian" <
kot...@mtnl.net.in>
To: <
accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:42 PM
Subject: [AI] AccessIndia convention

block quote
Hello All

It gives me pleasure in finalising the venue of the next convention,
and the host city is going to be  the capital of "God's own land": at
Thiruvananthapuram!.

This is an early announcement especially put out to help members book
reservation for travel. The dates are going to be Saturday and Sunday
of October
22 & 23.

These dates shall give members a good opportunity to plan interesting
holidays arround this places.

More announcements regarding this shall be communicated in due course.

In the mean time, you can starting making your wish list for the
things you would like to do during this convention.

Warmly
Harish Kotian
Moderator
AccessIndia.
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Ram Kumar]

Dear Harish sir, I am really overwhelmed to learn about this upcoming
convention. Congratulations for having arranged this get to gather. I
am very much willing to attend the same.

On 7/29/11, prateek aggarwal  wrote:
> Wow, that’s a wonderful news!
> Thanks a lot harish sir for providing this yet another opportunity of
> meeting our dear accessindians.
> I could not make for the last convention, but hoping to attend it this time.
> Let me know if I can be of any help.
>
> Regards,
> Prateek agarwal.
> Director, daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
> www.daedaltechnovations.com
>
> website:
> www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
> |
> www.prateekagarwal.tk
>
> -- Original message --
> From: "Amit Bhatt" 
> To: 
> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:34:10 +0530
> Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
> harish bhai,
>
> Congratulation, I was also waiting for another convention.
> do let me know if I can be of any help.
>
> All the best,
>
> Regards,
>
> amit bhatt
> - Original Message - From: "Harish Kotian" <
> kot...@mtnl.net.in>
> To: <
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:42 PM
> Subject: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>
> block quote
> Hello All
>
> It gives me pleasure in finalising the venue of the next convention,
> and the host city is going to be  the capital of "God's own land": at
> Thiruvananthapuram!.
>
> This is an early announcement especially put out to help members book
> reservation for travel. The dates are going to be Saturday and Sunday
> of October
> 22 & 23.
>
> These dates shall give members a good opportunity to plan interesting
> holidays arround this places.
>
> More announcements regarding this shall be communicated in due course.
>
> In the mean time, you can starting making your wish list for the
> things you would like to do during this convention.
>
> Warmly
> Harish Kotian
> Moderator
> AccessIndia.
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[prateek aggarwal]

Wow, that’s a wonderful news!
Thanks a lot harish sir for providing this yet another opportunity of
meeting our dear accessindians.
I could not make for the last convention, but hoping to attend it this time.
Let me know if I can be of any help.

Regards,
Prateek agarwal.
Director, daedal technovations pvt. Ltd.
www.daedaltechnovations.com

website:
www.prateekagarwal.webs.com
|
www.prateekagarwal.tk

-- Original message --
From: "Amit Bhatt" 
To: 
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:34:10 +0530
Subject: Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention
harish bhai,

Congratulation, I was also waiting for another convention.
do let me know if I can be of any help.

All the best,

Regards,

amit bhatt
- Original Message - From: "Harish Kotian" <
kot...@mtnl.net.in>
To: <
accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:42 PM
Subject: [AI] AccessIndia convention

block quote
Hello All

It gives me pleasure in finalising the venue of the next convention,
and the host city is going to be  the capital of "God's own land": at
Thiruvananthapuram!.

This is an early announcement especially put out to help members book
reservation for travel. The dates are going to be Saturday and Sunday
of October
22 & 23.

These dates shall give members a good opportunity to plan interesting
holidays arround this places.

More announcements regarding this shall be communicated in due course.

In the mean time, you can starting making your wish list for the
things you would like to do during this convention.

Warmly
Harish Kotian
Moderator
AccessIndia.
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan]

Like the previous convention, it would be great if the audio version
of the conference could be made available to the list members who are
not able to make it to the venue.

Thanks.

Vetri.

On 29/07/2011, Amit Bhatt  wrote:
> harish bhai,
>
> Congratulation, I was also waiting for another convention.
> do let me know if I can be of any help.
>
> All the best,
>
> Regards,
>
> amit bhatt
> - Original Message -
> From: "Harish Kotian" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:42 PM
> Subject: [AI] AccessIndia convention
>
>
>> Hello All
>>
>> It gives me pleasure in finalising the venue of the next convention, and
>> the host city is going to be  the capital of "God's own land": at
>> Thiruvananthapuram!.
>>
>> This is an early announcement especially put out to help members book
>> reservation for travel. The dates are going to be Saturday and Sunday of
>> October 22 & 23.
>>
>> These dates shall give members a good opportunity to plan interesting
>> holidays arround this places.
>>
>> More announcements regarding this shall be communicated in due course.
>>
>> In the mean time, you can starting making your wish list for the things
>> you would like to do during this convention.
>>
>> Warmly
>> Harish Kotian
>> Moderator
>> AccessIndia.
>> Search for old postings at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
>>
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Re: [AI] AccessIndia convention

[Amit Bhatt]

harish bhai,

Congratulation, I was also waiting for another convention.
do let me know if I can be of any help.

All the best,

Regards,

amit bhatt
- Original Message - 
From: "Harish Kotian" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:42 PM
Subject: [AI] AccessIndia convention



Hello All

It gives me pleasure in finalising the venue of the next convention, and 
the host city is going to be  the capital of "God's own land": at 
Thiruvananthapuram!.


This is an early announcement especially put out to help members book 
reservation for travel. The dates are going to be Saturday and Sunday of 
October 22 & 23.


These dates shall give members a good opportunity to plan interesting 
holidays arround this places.


More announcements regarding this shall be communicated in due course.

In the mean time, you can starting making your wish list for the things 
you would like to do during this convention.


Warmly
Harish Kotian
Moderator
AccessIndia.
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[AI] AccessIndia convention

[Harish Kotian]

Hello All

It gives me pleasure in finalising the venue of the next convention, and the 
host city is going to be  the capital of "God's own land": at 
Thiruvananthapuram!.

This is an early announcement especially put out to help members book 
reservation for travel. The dates are going to be Saturday and Sunday of 
October 22 & 23.

These dates shall give members a good opportunity to plan interesting holidays 
arround this places.

More announcements regarding this shall be communicated in due course.

In the mean time, you can starting making your wish list for the things you 
would like to do during this convention.

Warmly
Harish Kotian
Moderator
AccessIndia.
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Re: [AI] Accessindia Convention recording

[g mail account]

   hello madam
 ,  ihave downloaded 32 m b file out of 79 m b using mozilla firefox now
 please can you tell me how can i download the remaining 45 m b of file
 please guide me step by step in case of mozilla firefox
 thank you
 navneet dubey

 - Original Message -
> From: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Accessindia Convention recording
>
>
> > Hi Prashant and all,
> >
> > Many thanks for uploading the convention recordings. Despite some
> background
> > noise, the quality of recording is quite good and nearly all the
speakers
> > are audible.
> >
> > In case any of you have difficulty downloading individual files from
> > Sendspace, I have uploaded a consolidated zip file with all the 15
> MP3files.
> > The size of this zip file is 79MB. Here is the direct download link:
> > http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/93072/AccessIndiaConvention.zip
> >
> > @Rajesh: The 10th file is fine here.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> > Geetha
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Prashant Verma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:40 PM
> > Subject: [AI] Accessindia Convention recording
> >
> >
> > > Dear all,
> > > Some recording of the AI convention at Ahmedabad has been uploaded. I
> > > apologise for the noisy recording. The convention itself was very
noisy
> &
> > > there was no direct input available for recording.
> > > When you open the download page, you will see a file containing
> recording
> > > of one session. The name of the session is evident from the file name.
> > > The following links will be active for a few days only. I will be
> posting
> > > links for the remaining sessions soon.
> > > --
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/vni1b1
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/80xfki
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/13blms
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/ytna7v
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/etueet
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/1wfkci
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/l5642j
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/s332b1
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/vlcnpl
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/7m7w3r
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/h7ewzm
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/j5s4af
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/sfq72h
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/o4k8yd
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/7cm8t2
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > > Prashant Ranjan Verma
> > > Manager -ICT
> > > DU-NTPC Foundation ICT Training Centre
> > > North Campus, Delhi University, Delhi
> > >
> > > Consultant - Technical support
> > > Daisy Consortium
> > > www.daisy.org
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Re: [AI] Accessindia Convention recording

[g mail account]

hello madam
,  ihave downloaded 32 m b file out of 79 m b using mozilla firefox now
please can you tell me how can i download the remaining 45 m b of file
please guide me step by step in case of mozilla firefox
thank you
navneet dubey

- Original Message -
From: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessindia Convention recording


> Hi Prashant and all,
>
> Many thanks for uploading the convention recordings. Despite some
background
> noise, the quality of recording is quite good and nearly all the speakers
> are audible.
>
> In case any of you have difficulty downloading individual files from
> Sendspace, I have uploaded a consolidated zip file with all the 15
MP3files.
> The size of this zip file is 79MB. Here is the direct download link:
> http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/93072/AccessIndiaConvention.zip
>
> @Rajesh: The 10th file is fine here.
>
> Thanks again.
> Geetha
> - Original Message -
> From: "Prashant Verma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:40 PM
> Subject: [AI] Accessindia Convention recording
>
>
> > Dear all,
> > Some recording of the AI convention at Ahmedabad has been uploaded. I
> > apologise for the noisy recording. The convention itself was very noisy
&
> > there was no direct input available for recording.
> > When you open the download page, you will see a file containing
recording
> > of one session. The name of the session is evident from the file name.
> > The following links will be active for a few days only. I will be
posting
> > links for the remaining sessions soon.
> > --
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/vni1b1
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/80xfki
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/13blms
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/ytna7v
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/etueet
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/1wfkci
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/l5642j
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/s332b1
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/vlcnpl
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/7m7w3r
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/h7ewzm
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/j5s4af
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/sfq72h
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/o4k8yd
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/7cm8t2
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Prashant Ranjan Verma
> > Manager -ICT
> > DU-NTPC Foundation ICT Training Centre
> > North Campus, Delhi University, Delhi
> >
> > Consultant - Technical support
> > Daisy Consortium
> > www.daisy.org
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> > with the subject unsubscribe.
> >
> > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
> > please visit the list home page at
> >
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Re: [AI] Accessindia Convention recording

[Pranav Lal]

Geetha,

Many thanks for consolidating the files. I was not looking forward to
downloading so many files.

Pranav


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Re: [AI] Accessindia Convention recording

[Vetrivel Adhimoolam]

I agree with Geetha and it certainly helps those who are away and could not 
make it to the convention. The quality is like the recording of any lecture. 
Haven't had the chance to listen all of them, but a brief look at the 
introductory parts of various tracks certainly gives me the impression that 
it was largely a successful convention despite some difficulties mentioned 
by some members. Hope to make it next time and look forward to receiving the 
remaining tracks.


Vetri.

- Original Message - 
From: "Geetha Shamanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Accessindia Convention recording



Hi Prashant and all,

Many thanks for uploading the convention recordings. Despite some 
background noise, the quality of recording is quite good and nearly all 
the speakers are audible.


In case any of you have difficulty downloading individual files from 
Sendspace, I have uploaded a consolidated zip file with all the 15 
MP3files. The size of this zip file is 79MB. Here is the direct download 
link:

http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/93072/AccessIndiaConvention.zip

@Rajesh: The 10th file is fine here.

Thanks again.
Geetha
- Original Message - 
From: "Prashant Verma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:40 PM
Subject: [AI] Accessindia Convention recording



Dear all,
Some recording of the AI convention at Ahmedabad has been uploaded. I 
apologise for the noisy recording. The convention itself was very noisy & 
there was no direct input available for recording.
When you open the download page, you will see a file containing recording 
of one session. The name of the session is evident from the file name.
The following links will be active for a few days only. I will be posting 
links for the remaining sessions soon.

--
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vni1b1
http://www.sendspace.com/file/80xfki
http://www.sendspace.com/file/13blms
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ytna7v
http://www.sendspace.com/file/etueet
http://www.sendspace.com/file/1wfkci
http://www.sendspace.com/file/l5642j
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s332b1
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vlcnpl
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7m7w3r
http://www.sendspace.com/file/h7ewzm
http://www.sendspace.com/file/j5s4af
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sfq72h
http://www.sendspace.com/file/o4k8yd
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7cm8t2
--
Regards,
Prashant Ranjan Verma
Manager -ICT
DU-NTPC Foundation ICT Training Centre
North Campus, Delhi University, Delhi

Consultant - Technical support
Daisy Consortium
www.daisy.org
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Re: [AI] Accessindia Convention recording

[Geetha Shamanna]

Hi Prashant and all,

Many thanks for uploading the convention recordings. Despite some background 
noise, the quality of recording is quite good and nearly all the speakers 
are audible.


In case any of you have difficulty downloading individual files from 
Sendspace, I have uploaded a consolidated zip file with all the 15 MP3files. 
The size of this zip file is 79MB. Here is the direct download link:

http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/93072/AccessIndiaConvention.zip

@Rajesh: The 10th file is fine here.

Thanks again.
Geetha
- Original Message - 
From: "Prashant Verma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:40 PM
Subject: [AI] Accessindia Convention recording



Dear all,
Some recording of the AI convention at Ahmedabad has been uploaded. I 
apologise for the noisy recording. The convention itself was very noisy & 
there was no direct input available for recording.
When you open the download page, you will see a file containing recording 
of one session. The name of the session is evident from the file name.
The following links will be active for a few days only. I will be posting 
links for the remaining sessions soon.

--
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vni1b1
http://www.sendspace.com/file/80xfki
http://www.sendspace.com/file/13blms
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ytna7v
http://www.sendspace.com/file/etueet
http://www.sendspace.com/file/1wfkci
http://www.sendspace.com/file/l5642j
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s332b1
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vlcnpl
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7m7w3r
http://www.sendspace.com/file/h7ewzm
http://www.sendspace.com/file/j5s4af
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sfq72h
http://www.sendspace.com/file/o4k8yd
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7cm8t2
--
Regards,
Prashant Ranjan Verma
Manager -ICT
DU-NTPC Foundation ICT Training Centre
North Campus, Delhi University, Delhi

Consultant - Technical support
Daisy Consortium
www.daisy.org
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Re: [AI] Accessindia Convention recording

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Thank you very much, Prashant.


Looking forward to remaining installments.

Link number 10 regretfully does nhot work at present and sendspace is assuring 
to fix it on the page.

Regards

Rajesh

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Prashant Verma
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:40 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Accessindia Convention recording

Dear all,
Some recording of the AI convention at Ahmedabad has been uploaded. I apologise 
for the noisy recording. The convention itself was very noisy & there was no 
direct input available for recording.
When you open the download page, you will see a file containing recording of 
one session. The name of the session is evident from the file name.
The following links will be active for a few days only. I will be posting links 
for the remaining sessions soon.
--
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vni1b1
http://www.sendspace.com/file/80xfki
http://www.sendspace.com/file/13blms
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ytna7v
http://www.sendspace.com/file/etueet
http://www.sendspace.com/file/1wfkci
http://www.sendspace.com/file/l5642j
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s332b1
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vlcnpl
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7m7w3r
http://www.sendspace.com/file/h7ewzm
http://www.sendspace.com/file/j5s4af
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sfq72h
http://www.sendspace.com/file/o4k8yd
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7cm8t2
--
Regards,
Prashant Ranjan Verma
Manager -ICT
DU-NTPC Foundation ICT Training Centre
North Campus, Delhi University, Delhi

Consultant - Technical support
Daisy Consortium
www.daisy.org
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[AI] Accessindia Convention recording

[Prashant Verma]

Dear all,
Some recording of the AI convention at Ahmedabad has been uploaded. I apologise 
for the noisy recording. The convention itself was very noisy & there was no 
direct input available for recording.
When you open the download page, you will see a file containing recording of 
one session. The name of the session is evident from the file name.
The following links will be active for a few days only. I will be posting links 
for the remaining sessions soon.
--
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vni1b1
http://www.sendspace.com/file/80xfki
http://www.sendspace.com/file/13blms
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ytna7v
http://www.sendspace.com/file/etueet
http://www.sendspace.com/file/1wfkci
http://www.sendspace.com/file/l5642j
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s332b1
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vlcnpl
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7m7w3r
http://www.sendspace.com/file/h7ewzm
http://www.sendspace.com/file/j5s4af
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sfq72h
http://www.sendspace.com/file/o4k8yd
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7cm8t2
--
Regards,
Prashant Ranjan Verma
Manager -ICT
DU-NTPC Foundation ICT Training Centre 
North Campus, Delhi University, Delhi  

Consultant - Technical support 
Daisy Consortium
www.daisy.org
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