Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
I had applied for UDID on 24th October 2022 and it is approved on 1st April 2023. The UDID number is also allocated. But could not find anything like down loading the card. Let me know, is it not possible immediately after approval or do we have to wait for sometimes to get it downloaded? Anil On 3/21/23, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA wrote: > absolutely, secondly, it is required to upload data or verification from > the same hospital where a person got disability certificate. Once I have > got disability certificate from district medical board then why it is > necessary for me to approach the same hospital for uploading data or > online verification? as the act says that medical board certificate > fulfill the purpose. and what for those who are having permanent > disability certificate got 10-15 years back. will it become invalid? > > this cumpulsion means that I am not blind despite having medical board > certificate until or unless i get UDID card. > > > > On 3/21/2023 4:24 PM, pavan kallem wrote: >> Dear all, >> I am writing this email in response to the ongoing discussions >> regarding the implementation of UDID (Unique Disability ID) for >> availing benefits for the disabled community from the central >> government. >> While I support the idea of UDID, I am concerned about the process and >> the difficulties that people with disabilities are facing during the >> implementation process. It has come to my notice that the process is >> becoming more cumbersome in non-BJP ruled states like Telangana, where >> a separate software authenticated mechanism called SADAREM is being >> followed, which is causing inconvenience to people with disabilities. >> I would also like to bring to your attention the contradictory >> guidelines issued by the Union of India, where the government has >> issued forms 4, 5, and 6 for application, permanent disability, and >> multiple disabilities, respectively. However, the notification under >> rule 19 clearly states that a person to whom the certificate is issued >> under rule 18 shall be entitled to apply for facilities, concessions, >> and benefits admissible for persons with disabilities under schemes of >> the government and non-governmental organizations funded by the >> government. >> Moreover, I have learned that the government is mandating UDID cards, >> which have not been mentioned in the primary act, nor have they been >> mentioned in the rules issued under it. As a certified permanent >> disability community member, I feel that the government is >> superimposing something that is not a well-thought-out plan and does >> not serve the purpose for which it has been brought. >> Therefore, I urge the government to firstly ensure that every person >> with disability gets a UDID card and secondly, to remove the >> contradictory notifications that are causing confusion among the >> disabled community. The government should consider every process that >> it mandates, and it should not be a burden for people with >> disabilities. >> If someone is ready to help me get a UDID card, please contact me at >> the number provided below. >> Thank you for your attention to this matter. >> >> On 3/21/23, George Abraham wrote: >>> I had downloaded , printed and laminated the UDID card in Feb 2022. I >>> have >>> not yet received the printed card that was sent to me by post in May >>> 2022. >>> Have also managed to download the UDID card onto my Digi Locker. I >>> wonder >>> whether it is necessary to have the printed card that the Govt mails. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] >>> On Behalf Of Harish Kotian >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 12:04 PM >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Pranav Lal >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Pranav >>> >>> Certainly, the portal needs to be fully accessible. This also includes >>> error >>> messages. Check on the file size to upload. Perhaps the portal would be >>> having some issue then. >>> >>> >>> >>> I had applied for UDID long back. It kept on showing the status referred >>> to >>> district hospital. Last friday I visited the civil hospital and the >>> doctors >>> uploaded the requisite data. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday the status showed processing for printing. On login, I could >>> download the card. >>> >>> >>> >>> T
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
absolutely, secondly, it is required to upload data or verification from the same hospital where a person got disability certificate. Once I have got disability certificate from district medical board then why it is necessary for me to approach the same hospital for uploading data or online verification? as the act says that medical board certificate fulfill the purpose. and what for those who are having permanent disability certificate got 10-15 years back. will it become invalid? this cumpulsion means that I am not blind despite having medical board certificate until or unless i get UDID card. On 3/21/2023 4:24 PM, pavan kallem wrote: Dear all, I am writing this email in response to the ongoing discussions regarding the implementation of UDID (Unique Disability ID) for availing benefits for the disabled community from the central government. While I support the idea of UDID, I am concerned about the process and the difficulties that people with disabilities are facing during the implementation process. It has come to my notice that the process is becoming more cumbersome in non-BJP ruled states like Telangana, where a separate software authenticated mechanism called SADAREM is being followed, which is causing inconvenience to people with disabilities. I would also like to bring to your attention the contradictory guidelines issued by the Union of India, where the government has issued forms 4, 5, and 6 for application, permanent disability, and multiple disabilities, respectively. However, the notification under rule 19 clearly states that a person to whom the certificate is issued under rule 18 shall be entitled to apply for facilities, concessions, and benefits admissible for persons with disabilities under schemes of the government and non-governmental organizations funded by the government. Moreover, I have learned that the government is mandating UDID cards, which have not been mentioned in the primary act, nor have they been mentioned in the rules issued under it. As a certified permanent disability community member, I feel that the government is superimposing something that is not a well-thought-out plan and does not serve the purpose for which it has been brought. Therefore, I urge the government to firstly ensure that every person with disability gets a UDID card and secondly, to remove the contradictory notifications that are causing confusion among the disabled community. The government should consider every process that it mandates, and it should not be a burden for people with disabilities. If someone is ready to help me get a UDID card, please contact me at the number provided below. Thank you for your attention to this matter. On 3/21/23, George Abraham wrote: I had downloaded , printed and laminated the UDID card in Feb 2022. I have not yet received the printed card that was sent to me by post in May 2022. Have also managed to download the UDID card onto my Digi Locker. I wonder whether it is necessary to have the printed card that the Govt mails. From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Harish Kotian Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 12:04 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Pranav Lal Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID Hi Pranav Certainly, the portal needs to be fully accessible. This also includes error messages. Check on the file size to upload. Perhaps the portal would be having some issue then. I had applied for UDID long back. It kept on showing the status referred to district hospital. Last friday I visited the civil hospital and the doctors uploaded the requisite data. On Monday the status showed processing for printing. On login, I could download the card. The process certainly is made simple now. Harish On 21/03/2023 07:28, Pranav Lal wrote: I have tried applying for the udit card and that is the first obstacle. I filled the form but was unable to move to the next step and did not get any error message telling me what was wrong. Pranav From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> On Behalf Of Muralidharan Vishwanath Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 10:11 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID Thanks for the feedback On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 11:29 PM Avichal Bhatnagar wrote: I strongly support the step to make UDID mandatory, as it will help in removing the unwanted beneficiaries out of the system, like how the linking of DBT with aadhaar helped in removing lakhs of fraudulent beneficiaries. It may also curb to an extent the problem of low vision people pretending to be totally blind. That said, we must also hold a dialogue with the department of persons with disabilities and suggest them measures to expedite the process of making UDID easily available and accessible to all. One way could be to rope in the NGO's working at the ground level especially in the rural areas for organising camps for mass enrollme
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
Dear all, I am writing this email in response to the ongoing discussions regarding the implementation of UDID (Unique Disability ID) for availing benefits for the disabled community from the central government. While I support the idea of UDID, I am concerned about the process and the difficulties that people with disabilities are facing during the implementation process. It has come to my notice that the process is becoming more cumbersome in non-BJP ruled states like Telangana, where a separate software authenticated mechanism called SADAREM is being followed, which is causing inconvenience to people with disabilities. I would also like to bring to your attention the contradictory guidelines issued by the Union of India, where the government has issued forms 4, 5, and 6 for application, permanent disability, and multiple disabilities, respectively. However, the notification under rule 19 clearly states that a person to whom the certificate is issued under rule 18 shall be entitled to apply for facilities, concessions, and benefits admissible for persons with disabilities under schemes of the government and non-governmental organizations funded by the government. Moreover, I have learned that the government is mandating UDID cards, which have not been mentioned in the primary act, nor have they been mentioned in the rules issued under it. As a certified permanent disability community member, I feel that the government is superimposing something that is not a well-thought-out plan and does not serve the purpose for which it has been brought. Therefore, I urge the government to firstly ensure that every person with disability gets a UDID card and secondly, to remove the contradictory notifications that are causing confusion among the disabled community. The government should consider every process that it mandates, and it should not be a burden for people with disabilities. If someone is ready to help me get a UDID card, please contact me at the number provided below. Thank you for your attention to this matter. On 3/21/23, George Abraham wrote: > I had downloaded , printed and laminated the UDID card in Feb 2022. I have > not yet received the printed card that was sent to me by post in May 2022. > Have also managed to download the UDID card onto my Digi Locker. I wonder > whether it is necessary to have the printed card that the Govt mails. > > > > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] > On Behalf Of Harish Kotian > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 12:04 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Pranav Lal > Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID > > > > Hi Pranav > > Certainly, the portal needs to be fully accessible. This also includes error > messages. Check on the file size to upload. Perhaps the portal would be > having some issue then. > > > > I had applied for UDID long back. It kept on showing the status referred to > district hospital. Last friday I visited the civil hospital and the doctors > uploaded the requisite data. > > > > On Monday the status showed processing for printing. On login, I could > download the card. > > > > The process certainly is made simple now. > > Harish > > > > On 21/03/2023 07:28, Pranav Lal wrote: > > I have tried applying for the udit card and that is the first obstacle. I > filled the form but was unable to move to the next step and did not get any > error message telling me what was wrong. > > > > Pranav > > > > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> On > Behalf Of Muralidharan Vishwanath > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 10:11 AM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID > > > > Thanks for the feedback > > > > On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 11:29 PM Avichal Bhatnagar > wrote: > > I strongly support the step to make UDID mandatory, as it will help in > removing the unwanted beneficiaries out of the system, like how the > linking of DBT with aadhaar helped in removing lakhs of fraudulent > beneficiaries. > It may also curb to an extent the problem of low vision people > pretending to be totally blind. > That said, we must also hold a dialogue with the department of persons > with disabilities and suggest them measures to expedite the process of > making UDID easily available and accessible to all. > One way could be to rope in the NGO's working at the ground level > especially in the rural areas for organising camps for mass > enrollment. > Another way could be to advertise about UDID far and wide on various > channels of mass communication such as radio stations, TV channels, > newspapers etc like how other schemes are publicised. > Also, various schools/centres catering to the educational needs of the > di
RE: [AI] Issues with UDID
I had downloaded , printed and laminated the UDID card in Feb 2022. I have not yet received the printed card that was sent to me by post in May 2022. Have also managed to download the UDID card onto my Digi Locker. I wonder whether it is necessary to have the printed card that the Govt mails. From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Harish Kotian Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 12:04 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in; Pranav Lal Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID Hi Pranav Certainly, the portal needs to be fully accessible. This also includes error messages. Check on the file size to upload. Perhaps the portal would be having some issue then. I had applied for UDID long back. It kept on showing the status referred to district hospital. Last friday I visited the civil hospital and the doctors uploaded the requisite data. On Monday the status showed processing for printing. On login, I could download the card. The process certainly is made simple now. Harish On 21/03/2023 07:28, Pranav Lal wrote: I have tried applying for the udit card and that is the first obstacle. I filled the form but was unable to move to the next step and did not get any error message telling me what was wrong. Pranav From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> On Behalf Of Muralidharan Vishwanath Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 10:11 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID Thanks for the feedback On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 11:29 PM Avichal Bhatnagar wrote: I strongly support the step to make UDID mandatory, as it will help in removing the unwanted beneficiaries out of the system, like how the linking of DBT with aadhaar helped in removing lakhs of fraudulent beneficiaries. It may also curb to an extent the problem of low vision people pretending to be totally blind. That said, we must also hold a dialogue with the department of persons with disabilities and suggest them measures to expedite the process of making UDID easily available and accessible to all. One way could be to rope in the NGO's working at the ground level especially in the rural areas for organising camps for mass enrollment. Another way could be to advertise about UDID far and wide on various channels of mass communication such as radio stations, TV channels, newspapers etc like how other schemes are publicised. Also, various schools/centres catering to the educational needs of the disabled can be requested to collate the data and help the students/trainees to apply. Similarly, the local bodies such as the panchayats and municipalities can also be made co-partners. Making UDID mandatory becomes necessary as without the need, nobody cares. On 3/19/23, Pinkesh Tailor wrote: > On 3/19/23, Pinkesh Tailor wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Currently instead of making mandatory, we must insist the government >> to first link all the benefits offered to PWD's with udid. Once this >> is done, most of the pwd's would also then make their way to avail the >> udid card. Secondly in respect to the issue of the difficulty in >> getting udid card or adhaar card etc is concern, the government need >> to facilitate this by empowering the organization who are working for >> the development of pwd. Once this is taken care, udid would >> automatically be a mandatory element. >> >> On 3/19/23, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote: >>> This has nothing to do with sim cards >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 6:45 PM wrote: >>> >>>> Does this exclusion applies in obtaining sim cards? Despite having >>>> Aadhar card, some totally blind folks are denied sim card due to >>>> inability >>>> of that software to recognise our iris. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> *On >>>> Behalf Of *Ram >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 2:07 PM >>>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I do not understand why you are refused Aadhar Card because your retina >>>> can't be scanned. In fact, there is a provision in the Aadhar software >>>> itself to exclude IRIS scan for VI persons. >>>> >>>> Try visiting some another enrolment center and i am sure you will >>>> succeed >>>> >>>> I have observed that the agents are neither properly trained nor >>>> educat
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
Hi Pranav
Certainly, the portal needs to be fully accessible. This also includes
error messages. Check on the file size to upload. Perhaps the portal
would be having some issue then.
I had applied for UDID long back. It kept on showing the status referred
to district hospital. Last friday I visited the civil hospital and the
doctors uploaded the requisite data.
On Monday the status showed processing for printing. On login, I could
download the card.
The process certainly is made simple now.
Harish
On 21/03/2023 07:28, Pranav Lal wrote:
I have tried applying for the udit card and that is the first
obstacle. I filled the form but was unable to move to the next step
and did not get any error message telling me what was wrong.
Pranav
*From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*On Behalf Of *Muralidharan Vishwanath
*Sent:* Monday, March 20, 2023 10:11 AM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
Thanks for the feedback
On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 11:29 PM Avichal Bhatnagar
wrote:
I strongly support the step to make UDID mandatory, as it will help in
removing the unwanted beneficiaries out of the system, like how the
linking of DBT with aadhaar helped in removing lakhs of fraudulent
beneficiaries.
It may also curb to an extent the problem of low vision people
pretending to be totally blind.
That said, we must also hold a dialogue with the department of persons
with disabilities and suggest them measures to expedite the process of
making UDID easily available and accessible to all.
One way could be to rope in the NGO's working at the ground level
especially in the rural areas for organising camps for mass
enrollment.
Another way could be to advertise about UDID far and wide on various
channels of mass communication such as radio stations, TV channels,
newspapers etc like how other schemes are publicised.
Also, various schools/centres catering to the educational needs of the
disabled can be requested to collate the data and help the
students/trainees to apply.
Similarly, the local bodies such as the panchayats and municipalities
can also be made co-partners.
Making UDID mandatory becomes necessary as without the need,
nobody cares.
On 3/19/23, Pinkesh Tailor wrote:
> On 3/19/23, Pinkesh Tailor wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Currently instead of making mandatory, we must insist the
government
>> to first link all the benefits offered to PWD's with udid. Once
this
>> is done, most of the pwd's would also then make their way to
avail the
>> udid card. Secondly in respect to the issue of the difficulty in
>> getting udid card or adhaar card etc is concern, the government
need
>> to facilitate this by empowering the organization who are
working for
>> the development of pwd. Once this is taken care, udid would
>> automatically be a mandatory element.
>>
>> On 3/19/23, Muralidharan Vishwanath
wrote:
>>> This has nothing to do with sim cards
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 6:45 PM wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does this exclusion applies in obtaining sim cards? Despite
having
>>>> Aadhar card, some totally blind folks are denied sim card due to
>>>> inability
>>>> of that software to recognise our iris.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>> *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Ram
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 2:07 PM
>>>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do not understand why you are refused Aadhar Card because
your retina
>>>> can't be scanned. In fact, there is a provision in the
Aadhar software
>>>> itself to exclude IRIS scan for VI persons.
>>>>
>>>> Try visiting some another enrolment center and i am sure you will
>>>> succeed
>>>>
>>>> I have observed that the agents are neither properly trained nor
>>>> educated
>>>> to handel special cases.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>&g
RE: [AI] Issues with UDID
I have tried applying for the udit card and that is the first obstacle. I filled the form but was unable to move to the next step and did not get any error message telling me what was wrong. Pranav From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Muralidharan Vishwanath Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 10:11 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID Thanks for the feedback On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 11:29 PM Avichal Bhatnagar mailto:coolavic...@gmail.com> > wrote: I strongly support the step to make UDID mandatory, as it will help in removing the unwanted beneficiaries out of the system, like how the linking of DBT with aadhaar helped in removing lakhs of fraudulent beneficiaries. It may also curb to an extent the problem of low vision people pretending to be totally blind. That said, we must also hold a dialogue with the department of persons with disabilities and suggest them measures to expedite the process of making UDID easily available and accessible to all. One way could be to rope in the NGO's working at the ground level especially in the rural areas for organising camps for mass enrollment. Another way could be to advertise about UDID far and wide on various channels of mass communication such as radio stations, TV channels, newspapers etc like how other schemes are publicised. Also, various schools/centres catering to the educational needs of the disabled can be requested to collate the data and help the students/trainees to apply. Similarly, the local bodies such as the panchayats and municipalities can also be made co-partners. Making UDID mandatory becomes necessary as without the need, nobody cares. On 3/19/23, Pinkesh Tailor mailto:pinkesh.tai...@gmail.com> > wrote: > On 3/19/23, Pinkesh Tailor <mailto:pinkesh.tai...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Currently instead of making mandatory, we must insist the government >> to first link all the benefits offered to PWD's with udid. Once this >> is done, most of the pwd's would also then make their way to avail the >> udid card. Secondly in respect to the issue of the difficulty in >> getting udid card or adhaar card etc is concern, the government need >> to facilitate this by empowering the organization who are working for >> the development of pwd. Once this is taken care, udid would >> automatically be a mandatory element. >> >> On 3/19/23, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote: >>> This has nothing to do with sim cards >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 6:45 PM >> <mailto:ilovec...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>> >>>> Does this exclusion applies in obtaining sim cards? Despite having >>>> Aadhar card, some totally blind folks are denied sim card due to >>>> inability >>>> of that software to recognise our iris. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > >>>> *On >>>> Behalf Of *Ram >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 2:07 PM >>>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I do not understand why you are refused Aadhar Card because your retina >>>> can't be scanned. In fact, there is a provision in the Aadhar software >>>> itself to exclude IRIS scan for VI persons. >>>> >>>> Try visiting some another enrolment center and i am sure you will >>>> succeed >>>> >>>> I have observed that the agents are neither properly trained nor >>>> educated >>>> to handel special cases. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) >>> <mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> > >>>> >>>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 12:55 PM >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Muralidharan, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray yo
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
Thanks for the feedback On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 11:29 PM Avichal Bhatnagar wrote: > I strongly support the step to make UDID mandatory, as it will help in > removing the unwanted beneficiaries out of the system, like how the > linking of DBT with aadhaar helped in removing lakhs of fraudulent > beneficiaries. > It may also curb to an extent the problem of low vision people > pretending to be totally blind. > That said, we must also hold a dialogue with the department of persons > with disabilities and suggest them measures to expedite the process of > making UDID easily available and accessible to all. > One way could be to rope in the NGO's working at the ground level > especially in the rural areas for organising camps for mass > enrollment. > Another way could be to advertise about UDID far and wide on various > channels of mass communication such as radio stations, TV channels, > newspapers etc like how other schemes are publicised. > Also, various schools/centres catering to the educational needs of the > disabled can be requested to collate the data and help the > students/trainees to apply. > Similarly, the local bodies such as the panchayats and municipalities > can also be made co-partners. > Making UDID mandatory becomes necessary as without the need, nobody cares. > > > > > > On 3/19/23, Pinkesh Tailor wrote: > > On 3/19/23, Pinkesh Tailor wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Currently instead of making mandatory, we must insist the government > >> to first link all the benefits offered to PWD's with udid. Once this > >> is done, most of the pwd's would also then make their way to avail the > >> udid card. Secondly in respect to the issue of the difficulty in > >> getting udid card or adhaar card etc is concern, the government need > >> to facilitate this by empowering the organization who are working for > >> the development of pwd. Once this is taken care, udid would > >> automatically be a mandatory element. > >> > >> On 3/19/23, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote: > >>> This has nothing to do with sim cards > >>> > >>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 6:45 PM wrote: > >>> > >>>> Does this exclusion applies in obtaining sim cards? Despite having > >>>> Aadhar card, some totally blind folks are denied sim card due to > >>>> inability > >>>> of that software to recognise our iris. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in < > accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > >>>> *On > >>>> Behalf Of *Ram > >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 2:07 PM > >>>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in > >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I do not understand why you are refused Aadhar Card because your > retina > >>>> can't be scanned. In fact, there is a provision in the Aadhar > software > >>>> itself to exclude IRIS scan for VI persons. > >>>> > >>>> Try visiting some another enrolment center and i am sure you will > >>>> succeed > >>>> > >>>> I have observed that the agents are neither properly trained nor > >>>> educated > >>>> to handel special cases. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> *From:* Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) > >>>> > >>>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in > >>>> > >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 12:55 PM > >>>> > >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Dear Muralidharan, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success. > In > >>>> India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something > >>>> inaccessible > >>>> to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits > each > >>>> from the packet of biscuits, but there i
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
I strongly support the step to make UDID mandatory, as it will help in removing the unwanted beneficiaries out of the system, like how the linking of DBT with aadhaar helped in removing lakhs of fraudulent beneficiaries. It may also curb to an extent the problem of low vision people pretending to be totally blind. That said, we must also hold a dialogue with the department of persons with disabilities and suggest them measures to expedite the process of making UDID easily available and accessible to all. One way could be to rope in the NGO's working at the ground level especially in the rural areas for organising camps for mass enrollment. Another way could be to advertise about UDID far and wide on various channels of mass communication such as radio stations, TV channels, newspapers etc like how other schemes are publicised. Also, various schools/centres catering to the educational needs of the disabled can be requested to collate the data and help the students/trainees to apply. Similarly, the local bodies such as the panchayats and municipalities can also be made co-partners. Making UDID mandatory becomes necessary as without the need, nobody cares. On 3/19/23, Pinkesh Tailor wrote: > On 3/19/23, Pinkesh Tailor wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Currently instead of making mandatory, we must insist the government >> to first link all the benefits offered to PWD's with udid. Once this >> is done, most of the pwd's would also then make their way to avail the >> udid card. Secondly in respect to the issue of the difficulty in >> getting udid card or adhaar card etc is concern, the government need >> to facilitate this by empowering the organization who are working for >> the development of pwd. Once this is taken care, udid would >> automatically be a mandatory element. >> >> On 3/19/23, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote: >>> This has nothing to do with sim cards >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 6:45 PM wrote: >>> >>>> Does this exclusion applies in obtaining sim cards? Despite having >>>> Aadhar card, some totally blind folks are denied sim card due to >>>> inability >>>> of that software to recognise our iris. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> *On >>>> Behalf Of *Ram >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 2:07 PM >>>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I do not understand why you are refused Aadhar Card because your retina >>>> can't be scanned. In fact, there is a provision in the Aadhar software >>>> itself to exclude IRIS scan for VI persons. >>>> >>>> Try visiting some another enrolment center and i am sure you will >>>> succeed >>>> >>>> I have observed that the agents are neither properly trained nor >>>> educated >>>> to handel special cases. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) >>>> >>>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 12:55 PM >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Muralidharan, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success. In >>>> India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something >>>> inaccessible >>>> to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each >>>> from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on >>>> the >>>> table even before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my >>>> experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for the >>>> blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the >>>> retina >>>> scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When >>>> I >>>> went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own >>>> property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar so >>>> that the property can be registered with the sighted per
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
On 3/19/23, Pinkesh Tailor wrote: > Hi, > > Currently instead of making mandatory, we must insist the government > to first link all the benefits offered to PWD's with udid. Once this > is done, most of the pwd's would also then make their way to avail the > udid card. Secondly in respect to the issue of the difficulty in > getting udid card or adhaar card etc is concern, the government need > to facilitate this by empowering the organization who are working for > the development of pwd. Once this is taken care, udid would > automatically be a mandatory element. > > On 3/19/23, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote: >> This has nothing to do with sim cards >> >> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 6:45 PM wrote: >> >>> Does this exclusion applies in obtaining sim cards? Despite having >>> Aadhar card, some totally blind folks are denied sim card due to >>> inability >>> of that software to recognise our iris. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> *On >>> Behalf Of *Ram >>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 2:07 PM >>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I do not understand why you are refused Aadhar Card because your retina >>> can't be scanned. In fact, there is a provision in the Aadhar software >>> itself to exclude IRIS scan for VI persons. >>> >>> Try visiting some another enrolment center and i am sure you will >>> succeed >>> >>> I have observed that the agents are neither properly trained nor >>> educated >>> to handel special cases. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) >>> >>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 12:55 PM >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear Muralidharan, >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success. In >>> India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something >>> inaccessible >>> to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each >>> from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on the >>> table even before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my >>> experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for the >>> blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the retina >>> scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When >>> I >>> went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own >>> property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar so >>> that the property can be registered with the sighted person’s name. I am >>> very hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no authority >>> in >>> place who really cares to actually do something. >>> >>> Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I feel >>> life >>> was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later the >>> African >>> leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free. >>> How >>> wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I return >>> home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and >>> disorganized >>> administration. For example, the National number for the Aadhaar >>> Helpdesk >>> is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not exist!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are fighting >>> a >>> very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri >>> Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk >>> with >>> you – no – carry you through this fight. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa) >>> >>> *From:* Muralidharan Vishwanath >>> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM >>> >>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> >>> *Subject:* [AI] Issues with UDID >>> >>> >>> &
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
Hi, Currently instead of making mandatory, we must insist the government to first link all the benefits offered to PWD's with udid. Once this is done, most of the pwd's would also then make their way to avail the udid card. Secondly in respect to the issue of the difficulty in getting udid card or adhaar card etc is concern, the government need to facilitate this by empowering the organization who are working for the development of pwd. Once this is taken care, udid would automatically be a mandatory element. On 3/19/23, Muralidharan Vishwanath wrote: > This has nothing to do with sim cards > > On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 6:45 PM wrote: > >> Does this exclusion applies in obtaining sim cards? Despite having >> Aadhar card, some totally blind folks are denied sim card due to >> inability >> of that software to recognise our iris. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> *On >> Behalf Of *Ram >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 2:07 PM >> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I do not understand why you are refused Aadhar Card because your retina >> can't be scanned. In fact, there is a provision in the Aadhar software >> itself to exclude IRIS scan for VI persons. >> >> Try visiting some another enrolment center and i am sure you will succeed >> >> I have observed that the agents are neither properly trained nor educated >> to handel special cases. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) >> >> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 12:55 PM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID >> >> >> >> Dear Muralidharan, >> >> >> >> Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success. In >> India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something >> inaccessible >> to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each >> from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on the >> table even before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my >> experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for the >> blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the retina >> scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I >> went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own >> property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar so >> that the property can be registered with the sighted person’s name. I am >> very hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no authority >> in >> place who really cares to actually do something. >> >> Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I feel life >> was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later the >> African >> leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free. >> How >> wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I return >> home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and disorganized >> administration. For example, the National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk >> is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not exist!!! >> >> >> >> Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are fighting a >> very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri >> Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with >> you – no – carry you through this fight. >> >> >> >> Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa) >> >> *From:* Muralidharan Vishwanath >> >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM >> >> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> >> *Subject:* [AI] Issues with UDID >> >> >> >> March 18, 2023 >> >> >> >> As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April 1, >> 2023 for registering for central government schemes. >> >> >> >> This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates, >> have >> not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued certificates, >> or >> have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues. >> >> >> >> UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own >> ministries/departments viz. railways, for ad
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
See the language. It's absolutely clear that need for such universal card was recognised by many organisations working in field. Hence, without any doubt, it was a collective effort. But as usual, NPRD can't keep it away from claiming like it's the only organisation or it is the first which does all that is for the betterment of disability field. very bad approach indeed. In short, such myths or claims are automatically dispelled. After observing all comments on the subject, I could not keep myself from expressing my bits too. Regards Vande Mataram - Original Message - From: Muralidharan Vishwanath To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID For your information, it is the NPRD which advocated for a universally valid ID for disabled right at its inception in 2010. It was also at the NPRD's behest that the universal validity of the disability certificate was incorporated into the RPD Act, 2016. Therefore, the allegation that we are attempting to"stalling" this effort is baseless and malafide. (I am sure, I too will be kicked out of the list now). But the DEPwD is setting a deadline of April 1, 2023 even while more than half of the disabled population who possess disability certificates have not been issued UDID cards. How can this be accepted? Secondly, the central government's own departments do not accept the UDID - railways for instance insists that one should procure the card that it is issuing. Every year several cases are highlighted of MBBS aspirants whose UDID cards are rejected and a reverification of their disability done at designated centres. This defeats the very purpose of the UDID. I am not going into the various issues with the procurement of UDID that people face, that is a different matter. The NPRD's interest is to see that all disabled are able to get UDID in a hassle free process. When the disability certificate is replaced by the UDID and becomes valid for all purposes, it is natural that it will become mandatory (like the certificate earlier) for availing any scheme. What we have asked for is the difficulties that people are facing in the procurement of the UDID so that we can take it up with the government. Let me make it loud and clear. We have not and do not intend to stall or oppose the UDID. All the best sathiyo. On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:52 AM Harish Kotian wrote: Hi It is my personal opinion that UDID should be made mandatory for availing all services for the disabled.It should be the only identification means for authenticating disability. Having said this, all the services should be put in place before the D date and scaling up should be fully factored in. There are numerous benefits to us through UDID. We should not fall into the temptation of stalling the effort and rather we should clearly not join them. There may be some difficulty for sometime. That always happens during transition. As what they say, you don't throw the baby with the bathwater I am well aware, there is going to be sharp reactions to my line of thought, however I am convinced UDID is progressive and disabled friendly and this is the most important thing which can make huge changes for our benefit. Harish On 19/03/2023 06:43, bhawani shankar verma wrote: UDID should not be mada mandatory. we must fight collectively for it. On Sat, 18 Mar 2023, 9:09 pm Amar Jain, wrote: I would like to help you out to address your concerns. I am a corporate lawyer and have an interface with the authorities you are struggling with. Is there a way we can speak? I am reachable on 9892622230. Thank you. Sent from my iPhone On 18-Mar-2023, at 12:55 PM, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) wrote: Dear Muralidharan, Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success. In India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something inaccessible to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on the table even before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for the blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the retina scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar so that the property can be registered with the sighted person’s name. I am very hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no authority in place who really cares to actually do something. Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
This has nothing to do with sim cards On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 6:45 PM wrote: > Does this exclusion applies in obtaining sim cards? Despite having > Aadhar card, some totally blind folks are denied sim card due to inability > of that software to recognise our iris. > > > > > > *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in *On > Behalf Of *Ram > *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 2:07 PM > *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in > *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I do not understand why you are refused Aadhar Card because your retina > can't be scanned. In fact, there is a provision in the Aadhar software > itself to exclude IRIS scan for VI persons. > > Try visiting some another enrolment center and i am sure you will succeed > > I have observed that the agents are neither properly trained nor educated > to handel special cases. > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) > > *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in > > *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 12:55 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID > > > > Dear Muralidharan, > > > > Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success. In > India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something inaccessible > to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each > from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on the > table even before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my > experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for the > blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the retina > scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I > went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own > property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar so > that the property can be registered with the sighted person’s name. I am > very hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no authority in > place who really cares to actually do something. > > Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I feel life > was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later the African > leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free. How > wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I return > home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and disorganized > administration. For example, the National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk > is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not exist!!! > > > > Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are fighting a > very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri > Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with > you – no – carry you through this fight. > > > > Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa) > > *From:* Muralidharan Vishwanath > > *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM > > *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in > > *Subject:* [AI] Issues with UDID > > > > March 18, 2023 > > > > As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April 1, > 2023 for registering for central government schemes. > > > > This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates, have > not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued certificates, or > have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues. > > > > UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own > ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for > recruitment in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are refusing to > accept the validity of the card > > > > The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory imposition of > the UDID. > > > > It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to > accept its validity. > > > > Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the department, the > issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID. > > > > One of the main issues that has been identified especially in the rural > areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres charging > hefty amounts, or they being far away including their inaccessibility. > Second issue identified is about card not being issued despite passage of a > long time after enrollment. > > > > We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The issues > that we are attempting to list will be placed before him. > > > > You are requested to assist us by informing us of
RE: [AI] Issues with UDID
Does this exclusion applies in obtaining sim cards? Despite having Aadhar card, some totally blind folks are denied sim card due to inability of that software to recognise our iris. From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Ram Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 2:07 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID Hi, I do not understand why you are refused Aadhar Card because your retina can't be scanned. In fact, there is a provision in the Aadhar software itself to exclude IRIS scan for VI persons. Try visiting some another enrolment center and i am sure you will succeed I have observed that the agents are neither properly trained nor educated to handel special cases. From: Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) <mailto:ykhan...@gmail.com> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID Dear Muralidharan, Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success. In India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something inaccessible to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on the table even before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for the blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the retina scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar so that the property can be registered with the sighted person’s name. I am very hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no authority in place who really cares to actually do something. Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I feel life was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later the African leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free. How wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I return home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and disorganized administration. For example, the National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not exist!!! Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are fighting a very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with you – no – carry you through this fight. Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa) From: Muralidharan Vishwanath <mailto:murali.alat...@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Subject: [AI] Issues with UDID March 18, 2023 As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April 1, 2023 for registering for central government schemes. This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates, have not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued certificates, or have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues. UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for recruitment in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are refusing to accept the validity of the card The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory imposition of the UDID. It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to accept its validity. Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the department, the issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID. One of the main issues that has been identified especially in the rural areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres charging hefty amounts, or they being far away including their inaccessibility. Second issue identified is about card not being issued despite passage of a long time after enrollment. We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The issues that we are attempting to list will be placed before him. You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues that you face. You may please mail to us by March 20, 2023 evening at nprd...@gmail.com <mailto:nprd...@gmail.com> Muralidharan General Secretary NPRD -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessi
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
ational number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not exist!!! Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are fighting a very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with you – no – carry you through this fight. Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa) *From:* Muralidharan Vishwanath <mailto:murali.alat...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in *Subject:* [AI] Issues with UDID March 18, 2023 As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April 1, 2023 for registering for central government schemes. This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates, have not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued certificates, or have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues. UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for recruitment in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are refusing to accept the validity of the card The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory imposition of the UDID. It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to accept its validity. Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the department, the issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID. One of the main issues that has been identified especially in the rural areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres charging hefty amounts, or they being far away including their inaccessibility. Second issue identified is about card not being issued despite passage of a long time after enrollment. We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The issues that we are attempting to list will be placed before him. You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues that you face. You may please mail to us by March 20, 2023 evening at nprd...@gmail.com *Muralidharan* *General Secretary* *NPRD* -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL7vCQ1hkZ-X4yFEN1NOf6mo8WAxKHc3oJoMD9K2L4_UHZ9z1w%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL7vCQ1hkZ-X4yFEN1NOf6mo8WAxKHc3oJoMD9K2L4_UHZ9z1w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/52247B4C8F54434E8D59C73001A9C59C%40GauraRecordsPC <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/52247B4C8F54434E8D59C73001A9C59C%40GauraRecordsPC?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
retina scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar
I cannot get UDID either. When I went to buy my
home, they refused because a blind person cannot
own property. We have to be linked with a
sighted person who has Aadhaar so that the
property can be registered with the sighted
person’s name. I am very hurt by this behaviour
in India, and there seems to be no authority in
place who really cares to actually do something.
Can you please help me? Very pained and
frustrated. Sometimes I feel life was better
under our former captivity of slave-owners and
later the African leadership who hate Indians in
Africa. I came to India to become free. How
wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4
generations away, I return home only to find we
are slaves here to a highly corrupt and
disorganized administration. For example, the
National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk is
1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not
exist!!!
Thanks a lot however for doing what you can.
Evidently you are fighting a very difficult
battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan
Sri Ramachandra who was the most organized and
loved King on Earth, walk with you – no – carry
you through this fight.
Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa)
From: Muralidharan
Vishwanath
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023
11:39 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Issues with UDID
March 18, 2023
As all of you are aware, the
UDID is being made mandatory from April 1,
2023 for registering for central
government schemes.
This even while more than
half of the disabled who have
certificates, have not been issued UDID or
have enrolled but not been issued
certificates, or have been unable to
enroll for it, due to various issues.
UDID is being made compulsory
even when central government’s own
ministries/departments viz. railways, for
admissions to MBBS, for recruitment in
jobs, or many institutes of higher
learning are refusing to accept the
validity of the card
The NPRD has written to the
DEPwD objecting to the mandatory
imposition of the UDID.
It has also raised the issue
of the refusal by various departments to
accept its validity.
Notwithstanding this, we
would like to list before the department,
the issues that the disabled are facing
with regard to procuring UDID.
One of the main issues that
has been identified especially in the
rural areas is about non-availability of
seva kendras, private centres charging
hefty amounts, or they being far away
including their inaccessibility. Second
issue identified is about card not being
issued despite passage of a long time
after enrollment.
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ty in place who really cares to actually do something. Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I feel life was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later the African leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free. How wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I return home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and disorganized administration. For example, the National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not exist!!! Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are fighting a very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with you – no – carry you through this fight. Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa) *From:* Muralidharan Vishwanath <mailto:murali.alat...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in *Subject:* [AI] Issues with UDID March 18, 2023 As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April 1, 2023 for registering for central government schemes. This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates, have not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued certificates, or have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues. UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for recruitment in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are refusing to accept the validity of the card The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory imposition of the UDID. It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to accept its validity. Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the department, the issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID. One of the main issues that has been identified especially in the rural areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres charging hefty amounts, or they being far away including their inaccessibility. Second issue identified is about card not being issued despite passage of a long time after enrollment. We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The issues that we are attempting to list will be placed before him. You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues that you face. You may please mail to us by March 20, 2023 evening at nprd...@gmail.com *Muralidharan* *General Secretary* *NPRD* -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL7vCQ1hkZ-X4yFEN1NOf6mo8WAxKHc3oJoMD9K2L4_UHZ9z1w%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL7vCQ1hkZ-X4yFEN1NOf6mo8WAxKHc3oJoMD9K2L4_UHZ9z1w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia
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r for doing what you can. Evidently you are fighting a >> very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri >> Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with >> you – no – carry you through this fight. >> >> Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa) >> *From:* Muralidharan Vishwanath >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM >> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in >> *Subject:* [AI] Issues with UDID >> >> >> March 18, 2023 >> >> >> >> As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April 1, >> 2023 for registering for central government schemes. >> >> >> >> This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates, >> have not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued >> certificates, or have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues. >> >> >> >> UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own >> ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for >> recruitment in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are refusing to >> accept the validity of the card >> >> >> >> The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory imposition >> of the UDID. >> >> >> >> It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to >> accept its validity. >> >> >> >> Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the department, the >> issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID. >> >> >> >> One of the main issues that has been identified especially in the rural >> areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres charging >> hefty amounts, or they being far away including their inaccessibility. >> Second issue identified is about card not being issued despite passage of a >> long time after enrollment. >> >> >> >> We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The issues >> that we are attempting to list will be placed before him. >> >> >> >> You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues that you >> face. You may please mail to us by March 20, 2023 evening at >> nprd...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> >> *Muralidharan* >> >> *General Secretary* >> >> *NPRD* >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "AccessIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL7vCQ1hkZ-X4yFEN1NOf6mo8WAxKHc3oJoMD9K2L4_UHZ9z1w%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL7vCQ1hkZ-X4yFEN1NOf6mo8WAxKHc3oJoMD9K2L4_UHZ9z1w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "AccessIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/52247B4C8F54434E8D59C73001A9C59C%40GauraRecordsPC >> <https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/52247B4C8F54434E8D59C73001A9C59C%40GauraRecordsPC?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> t
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you – no – carry
you through this fight.
Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa)
From: Muralidharan
Vishwanath
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023
11:39 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Issues with UDID
March 18, 2023
As all of you are aware, the
UDID is being made mandatory from April 1,
2023 for registering for central
government schemes.
This even while more than
half of the disabled who have
certificates, have not been issued UDID or
have enrolled but not been issued
certificates, or have been unable to
enroll for it, due to various issues.
UDID is being made compulsory
even when central government’s own
ministries/departments viz. railways, for
admissions to MBBS, for recruitment in
jobs, or many institutes of higher
learning are refusing to accept the
validity of the card
The NPRD has written to the
DEPwD objecting to the mandatory
imposition of the UDID.
It has also raised the issue
of the refusal by various departments to
accept its validity.
Notwithstanding this, we
would like to list before the department,
the issues that the disabled are facing
with regard to procuring UDID.
One of the main issues that
has been identified especially in the
rural areas is about non-availability of
seva kendras, private centres charging
hefty amounts, or they being far away
including their inaccessibility. Second
issue identified is about card not being
issued despite passage of a long time
after enrollment.
We are seeking a meeting with
the Secretary DEPwD next week. The issues
that we are attempting to list will be
placed before him.
You are requested to assist
us by informing us of the issues that you
face. You may please mail to us by March
20, 2023 evening at nprd...@gmail.com
Muralidharan
General Secretary
NPRD
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Hi It is my personal opinion that UDID should be made mandatory for availing all services for the disabled.It should be the only identification means for authenticating disability. Having said this, all the services should be put in place before the D date and scaling up should be fully factored in. There are numerous benefits to us through UDID. We should not fall into the temptation of stalling the effort and rather we should clearly not join them. There may be some difficulty for sometime. That always happens during transition. As what they say, you don't throw the baby with the bathwater I am well aware, there is going to be sharp reactions to my line of thought, however I am convinced UDID is progressive and disabled friendly and this is the most important thing which can make huge changes for our benefit. Harish On 19/03/2023 06:43, bhawani shankar verma wrote: UDID should not be mada mandatory. we must fight collectively for it. On Sat, 18 Mar 2023, 9:09 pm Amar Jain, wrote: I would like to help you out to address your concerns. I am a corporate lawyer and have an interface with the authorities you are struggling with. Is there a way we can speak? I am reachable on 9892622230. Thank you. Sent from my iPhone On 18-Mar-2023, at 12:55 PM, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) wrote: Dear Muralidharan, Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success. In India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something inaccessible to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on the table even before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for the blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the retina scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar so that the property can be registered with the sighted person’s name. I am very hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no authority in place who really cares to actually do something. Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I feel life was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later the African leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free. How wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I return home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and disorganized administration. For example, the National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not exist!!! Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are fighting a very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with you – no – carry you through this fight. Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa) *From:* Muralidharan Vishwanath <mailto:murali.alat...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in *Subject:* [AI] Issues with UDID March 18, 2023 As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April 1, 2023 for registering for central government schemes. This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates, have not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued certificates, or have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues. UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for recruitment in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are refusing to accept the validity of the card The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory imposition of the UDID. It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to accept its validity. Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the department, the issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID. One of the main issues that has been identified especially in the rural areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres charging hefty amounts, or they being far away including their inaccessibility. Second issue identified is about card not being issued despite passage of a long time after enrollment. We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The issues that we are attempting to list will be placed before him. You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues that you face. You may please mail to us
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
UDID should not be mada mandatory. we must fight collectively for it. On Sat, 18 Mar 2023, 9:09 pm Amar Jain, wrote: > I would like to help you out to address your concerns. I am a corporate > lawyer and have an interface with the authorities you are struggling with. > > Is there a way we can speak? I am reachable on 9892622230. Thank you. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 18-Mar-2023, at 12:55 PM, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) < > ykhan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Dear Muralidharan, > > Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success. In > India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something inaccessible > to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each > from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on the > table even before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my > experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for the > blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the retina > scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I > went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own > property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar so > that the property can be registered with the sighted person’s name. I am > very hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no authority in > place who really cares to actually do something. > Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I feel life > was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later the African > leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free. How > wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I return > home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and disorganized > administration. For example, the National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk > is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not exist!!! > > Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are fighting a > very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri > Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with > you – no – carry you through this fight. > > Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa) > *From:* Muralidharan Vishwanath > *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM > *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in > *Subject:* [AI] Issues with UDID > > > March 18, 2023 > > > > As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April 1, > 2023 for registering for central government schemes. > > > > This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates, have > not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued certificates, or > have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues. > > > > UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own > ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for > recruitment in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are refusing to > accept the validity of the card > > > > The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory imposition of > the UDID. > > > > It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to > accept its validity. > > > > Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the department, the > issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID. > > > > One of the main issues that has been identified especially in the rural > areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres charging > hefty amounts, or they being far away including their inaccessibility. > Second issue identified is about card not being issued despite passage of a > long time after enrollment. > > > > We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The issues > that we are attempting to list will be placed before him. > > > > You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues that you > face. You may please mail to us by March 20, 2023 evening at > nprd...@gmail.com > > > > > > *Muralidharan* > > *General Secretary* > > *NPRD* > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
I would like to help you out to address your concerns. I am a corporate lawyer and have an interface with the authorities you are struggling with.Is there a way we can speak? I am reachable on 9892622230. Thank you.Sent from my iPhoneOn 18-Mar-2023, at 12:55 PM, Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) wrote: Dear Muralidharan, Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success. In India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something inaccessible to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on the table even before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for the blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the retina scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar so that the property can be registered with the sighted person’s name. I am very hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no authority in place who really cares to actually do something. Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I feel life was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later the African leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free. How wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I return home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and disorganized administration. For example, the National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not exist!!! Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are fighting a very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with you – no – carry you through this fight. Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa) From: Muralidharan Vishwanath Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Issues with UDID March 18, 2023 As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April 1, 2023 for registering for central government schemes. This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates, have not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued certificates, or have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues. UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for recruitment in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are refusing to accept the validity of the card The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory imposition of the UDID. It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to accept its validity. Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the department, the issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID. One of the main issues that has been identified especially in the rural areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres charging hefty amounts, or they being far away including their inaccessibility. Second issue identified is about card not being issued despite passage of a long time after enrollment. We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The issues that we are attempting to list will be placed before him. You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues that you face. You may please mail to us by March 20, 2023 evening at nprd...@gmail.com Muralidharan General Secretary NPRD-- Disclaimer:1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at:http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL7vCQ1hkZ-X4yFEN1NOf6mo8WAxKHc3oJoMD9K2L4_UHZ9z1w%40mail.gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are sub
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
Dear Yamuna, as Ram rightly points out, there are exceptions for people with disabilities both those who are blind as also those whose fingers are missing for Aaadhar enrolement. The insistence on Aadhar itself is problematic. But that is another issue and I would not like to divert attention here. But it is a struggle, as you rightly say. Please do get back at nprd...@gmail.com if you feel the need for any assistance. Muralidharan On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 2:06 PM Ram wrote: > > > Hi, > > I do not understand why you are refused Aadhar Card because your retina > can't be scanned. In fact, there is a provision in the Aadhar software > itself to exclude IRIS scan for VI persons. > Try visiting some another enrolment center and i am sure you will succeed > I have observed that the agents are neither properly trained nor educated > to handel special cases. > > > > > > *From:* Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) > *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in > *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 12:55 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AI] Issues with UDID > > Dear Muralidharan, > > Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success. In > India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something inaccessible > to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each > from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on the > table even before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my > experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for the > blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the retina > scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I > went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own > property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar so > that the property can be registered with the sighted person’s name. I am > very hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no authority in > place who really cares to actually do something. > Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I feel life > was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later the African > leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free. How > wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I return > home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and disorganized > administration. For example, the National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk > is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not exist!!! > > Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are fighting a > very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri > Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with > you – no – carry you through this fight. > > Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa) > *From:* Muralidharan Vishwanath > *Sent:* Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM > *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in > *Subject:* [AI] Issues with UDID > > > March 18, 2023 > > > > As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April 1, > 2023 for registering for central government schemes. > > > > This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates, have > not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued certificates, or > have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues. > > > > UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own > ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for > recruitment in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are refusing to > accept the validity of the card > > > > The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory imposition of > the UDID. > > > > It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to > accept its validity. > > > > Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the department, the > issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID. > > > > One of the main issues that has been identified especially in the rural > areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres charging > hefty amounts, or they being far away including their inaccessibility. > Second issue identified is about card not being issued despite passage of a > long time after enrollment. > > > > We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The issues > that we are attempting to list will be placed before him. > > > > You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues that you > face. You may please mail to us by March 20, 2023 evening at > nprd...@gmail.com > > > > > > *Muralidharan* > > *General Secreta
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
Hi, I do not understand why you are refused Aadhar Card because your retina can't be scanned. In fact, there is a provision in the Aadhar software itself to exclude IRIS scan for VI persons. Try visiting some another enrolment center and i am sure you will succeed I have observed that the agents are neither properly trained nor educated to handel special cases. From: Yamuna Jivana dasa (Yogan) To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Issues with UDID Dear Muralidharan, Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success. In India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something inaccessible to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on the table even before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for the blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the retina scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar so that the property can be registered with the sighted person’s name. I am very hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no authority in place who really cares to actually do something. Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I feel life was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later the African leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free. How wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I return home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and disorganized administration. For example, the National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not exist!!! Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are fighting a very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with you – no – carry you through this fight. Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa) From: Muralidharan Vishwanath Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Issues with UDID March 18, 2023 As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April 1, 2023 for registering for central government schemes. This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates, have not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued certificates, or have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues. UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for recruitment in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are refusing to accept the validity of the card The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory imposition of the UDID. It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to accept its validity. Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the department, the issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID. One of the main issues that has been identified especially in the rural areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres charging hefty amounts, or they being far away including their inaccessibility. Second issue identified is about card not being issued despite passage of a long time after enrollment. We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The issues that we are attempting to list will be placed before him. You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues that you face. You may please mail to us by March 20, 2023 evening at nprd...@gmail.com Muralidharan General Secretary NPRD -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL7vCQ1hkZ-X4yFEN1NOf6mo8WAxKHc3oJoMD9K2L4_UHZ9z1w%40mail.gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending
Re: [AI] Issues with UDID
Dear Muralidharan, Thank you for taking up these matters. I pray you meet some success. In India it seems a lot of this is going on: They make something inaccessible to achieve, manditory to achieve. Everybody should have 5 biscuits each from the packet of biscuits, but there is an empty biscuit packet on the table even before the distribution to all the attendees. This is my experience having come to India. Very sad and ironical. Aadhaar for the blind is impossible here in Vrindavana because the agents say the retina scan cannot be bypassed. Without Aadhaar I cannot get UDID either. When I went to buy my home, they refused because a blind person cannot own property. We have to be linked with a sighted person who has Aadhaar so that the property can be registered with the sighted person’s name. I am very hurt by this behaviour in India, and there seems to be no authority in place who really cares to actually do something. Can you please help me? Very pained and frustrated. Sometimes I feel life was better under our former captivity of slave-owners and later the African leadership who hate Indians in Africa. I came to India to become free. How wrong was I? Now having returned home after 4 generations away, I return home only to find we are slaves here to a highly corrupt and disorganized administration. For example, the National number for the Aadhaar Helpdesk is 1947. Guess what! Only problem is it does not exist!!! Thanks a lot however for doing what you can. Evidently you are fighting a very difficult battle and my heart is with you. May Bhagavan Sri Ramachandra who was the most organized and loved King on Earth, walk with you – no – carry you through this fight. Yoganathan Khandoo (Yamuna Jivana Dasa) From: Muralidharan Vishwanath Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 11:39 AM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Issues with UDID March 18, 2023 As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April 1, 2023 for registering for central government schemes. This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates, have not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued certificates, or have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues. UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for recruitment in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are refusing to accept the validity of the card The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory imposition of the UDID. It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to accept its validity. Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the department, the issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID. One of the main issues that has been identified especially in the rural areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres charging hefty amounts, or they being far away including their inaccessibility. Second issue identified is about card not being issued despite passage of a long time after enrollment. We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The issues that we are attempting to list will be placed before him. You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues that you face. You may please mail to us by March 20, 2023 evening at nprd...@gmail.com Muralidharan General Secretary NPRD -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL7vCQ1hkZ-X4yFEN1NOf6mo8WAxKHc3oJoMD9K2L4_UHZ9z1w%40mail.gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in
[AI] Issues with UDID
March 18, 2023 As all of you are aware, the UDID is being made mandatory from April 1, 2023 for registering for central government schemes. This even while more than half of the disabled who have certificates, have not been issued UDID or have enrolled but not been issued certificates, or have been unable to enroll for it, due to various issues. UDID is being made compulsory even when central government’s own ministries/departments viz. railways, for admissions to MBBS, for recruitment in jobs, or many institutes of higher learning are refusing to accept the validity of the card The NPRD has written to the DEPwD objecting to the mandatory imposition of the UDID. It has also raised the issue of the refusal by various departments to accept its validity. Notwithstanding this, we would like to list before the department, the issues that the disabled are facing with regard to procuring UDID. One of the main issues that has been identified especially in the rural areas is about non-availability of seva kendras, private centres charging hefty amounts, or they being far away including their inaccessibility. Second issue identified is about card not being issued despite passage of a long time after enrollment. We are seeking a meeting with the Secretary DEPwD next week. The issues that we are attempting to list will be placed before him. You are requested to assist us by informing us of the issues that you face. You may please mail to us by March 20, 2023 evening at nprd...@gmail.com *Muralidharan* *General Secretary* *NPRD* -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAL7vCQ1hkZ-X4yFEN1NOf6mo8WAxKHc3oJoMD9K2L4_UHZ9z1w%40mail.gmail.com.
