Fwd: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022
- Forwarded message -- From: Jignya Shah Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 21:48:00 +0530 Subject: Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Hello, The Bank of Baroda netbanking is absolutely inaccessible. It has accessivbility issues from its login page and once logged in within interface accessibility is totally zero. Please definitely consider this site as well for complaint. Also Bank of India login captcha is troublesome. Requesting mission accessibility team to consider this as well. Warm Regards, Jignya On 7/21/22, Gajender Singh wrote: > uidai website is also inaccessible it is a clear failure of WCAG > success criteria1.1.1. it is not providing accessible captcha. not > only this many government website has the accessibility issue. the > most inaccessible website I have seen is jio.com. My humble request to > mission accessibility team is kindly consider this also file again > complain. > > On 7/21/22, Rahul Bajaj wrote: >> agree, Harish sir. I think both paths can be pursued together. Seeking >> the >> enforcement of what is already on the statute book and seeking >> legislative >> reform to have stronger penalties. The service provider lobby in india is >> very strong. so getting any penalties approved will be very hard. >> Pragmatically, therefore, I think we often simply have to work with the >> framework that we have, imperefect as it is. >> >> >> >> On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 18:06, Harish Kotian wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I agree, penalty as an option, should be used cautiously. Having said, >>> that, it is not the penalty amount which is a deterrent, but the >>> associated reputation risk is something which any establishment would >>> like to avoid. It sends a message across, the said party has done >>> something which deserves penalty. It vindicates it.This signal is not >>> the same as that of a reprimand. We should be open for that as well. A >>> nudge like that sends a sharp ripples. It breaks down myth that big >>> enterprise can get away because of their sheer size and that we are a >>> small fly of which they can easily manage. >>> >>> >>> Harish >>> >>> On 19/07/2022 17:24, Rahul Bajaj wrote: >>> > RPwD Act does envisage penalty of up to 5 lakh. SC fined Spice Jet 10 >>> lakh >>> > for discriminating against a disabled person. We can use other fora >>> > also, >>> > like consumer courts. >>> > >>> > Let us not get hung up on punishing perpetrators, in my view. Instead, >>> let >>> > is put a positive spin on it. And use the penalties route judiciously. >>> > >>> > Rahul >>> > >>> > On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 08:26, Pinkesh Tailor >>> > >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> are these efforts backed by some constitutional or legal framework? I >>> >> mean, is there some kind of fine or punishment for not meeting the >>> >> accessibility guideline? Otherwise we would just be going round the >>> >> bush without any concrete results. Chasing each and every website or >>> >> mobile app owner and companies would prove to be a night mare. >>> >> Instead >>> >> some law in the RPWD act would empower us to challenge for >>> >> accessibility mandates. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> >>> >> On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: >>> >>> Picture Smart is a Jaws feature wherein one can submit a picture for >>> >>> analysis. Jaws would provide a discription in the Result Viewer >>> >>> about >>> >>> the image. If there is text in the image, Jaws can report that. >>> >>> To navigate a captcha, move focus to the captcha image, then Jaws >>> >>> key+ >>> >>> Space, then P for Picture Smart, and C for control. In the result >>> >>> Viewer window, enter on More results to get an idea about the >>> >>> captcha >>> >>> text. Often, the captcha letters/digits are provided with spaces in >>> >>> between, do away with it, more often than not, you should be good to >>> >>> go. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> can you explain about jaws smart pict
Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022
Hello, The Bank of Baroda netbanking is absolutely inaccessible. It has accessivbility issues from its login page and once logged in within interface accessibility is totally zero. Please definitely consider this site as well for complaint. Also Bank of India login captcha is troublesome. Requesting mission accessibility team to consider this as well. Warm Regards, Jignya On 7/21/22, Gajender Singh wrote: > uidai website is also inaccessible it is a clear failure of WCAG > success criteria1.1.1. it is not providing accessible captcha. not > only this many government website has the accessibility issue. the > most inaccessible website I have seen is jio.com. My humble request to > mission accessibility team is kindly consider this also file again > complain. > > On 7/21/22, Rahul Bajaj wrote: >> agree, Harish sir. I think both paths can be pursued together. Seeking >> the >> enforcement of what is already on the statute book and seeking >> legislative >> reform to have stronger penalties. The service provider lobby in india is >> very strong. so getting any penalties approved will be very hard. >> Pragmatically, therefore, I think we often simply have to work with the >> framework that we have, imperefect as it is. >> >> >> >> On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 18:06, Harish Kotian wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I agree, penalty as an option, should be used cautiously. Having said, >>> that, it is not the penalty amount which is a deterrent, but the >>> associated reputation risk is something which any establishment would >>> like to avoid. It sends a message across, the said party has done >>> something which deserves penalty. It vindicates it.This signal is not >>> the same as that of a reprimand. We should be open for that as well. A >>> nudge like that sends a sharp ripples. It breaks down myth that big >>> enterprise can get away because of their sheer size and that we are a >>> small fly of which they can easily manage. >>> >>> >>> Harish >>> >>> On 19/07/2022 17:24, Rahul Bajaj wrote: >>> > RPwD Act does envisage penalty of up to 5 lakh. SC fined Spice Jet 10 >>> lakh >>> > for discriminating against a disabled person. We can use other fora >>> > also, >>> > like consumer courts. >>> > >>> > Let us not get hung up on punishing perpetrators, in my view. Instead, >>> let >>> > is put a positive spin on it. And use the penalties route judiciously. >>> > >>> > Rahul >>> > >>> > On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 08:26, Pinkesh Tailor >>> > >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> are these efforts backed by some constitutional or legal framework? I >>> >> mean, is there some kind of fine or punishment for not meeting the >>> >> accessibility guideline? Otherwise we would just be going round the >>> >> bush without any concrete results. Chasing each and every website or >>> >> mobile app owner and companies would prove to be a night mare. >>> >> Instead >>> >> some law in the RPWD act would empower us to challenge for >>> >> accessibility mandates. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> >>> >> On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: >>> >>> Picture Smart is a Jaws feature wherein one can submit a picture for >>> >>> analysis. Jaws would provide a discription in the Result Viewer >>> >>> about >>> >>> the image. If there is text in the image, Jaws can report that. >>> >>> To navigate a captcha, move focus to the captcha image, then Jaws >>> >>> key+ >>> >>> Space, then P for Picture Smart, and C for control. In the result >>> >>> Viewer window, enter on More results to get an idea about the >>> >>> captcha >>> >>> text. Often, the captcha letters/digits are provided with spaces in >>> >>> between, do away with it, more often than not, you should be good to >>> >>> go. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia >>> >>> wrote: >>> can you explain about jaws smart picture. How to use it >>> >>> On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: >>> > While captchas are a nightmare from an accessibility point of >>> > view, >>> > the Jaws Picture Smart can help solve a decent number of those. >>> > Its >>> > not perfect, but in my experience, it does help in 70 percent of >>> > situations. But yes, captchas should be accessible, should be >>> > audio >>> > options or they should be math based ones. >>> > Regards, >>> > >>> > On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia >>> > wrote: >>> >> Dear Team, >>> >> >>> >> Indian bank website is also facing accessibility issues. >>> >> There we are facing captcha issue. >>> >> I kindly request you to consider this also. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility >>> >> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Ketan, >>> >>> Thankyou for your mail. >>> >>> We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most >>> >>> popular >>> OTT >>> >>> platforms in India since the past few months. >>> >>> SonyLiv >>> >>> As per our last telecon, they claim
Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022
uidai website is also inaccessible it is a clear failure of WCAG success criteria1.1.1. it is not providing accessible captcha. not only this many government website has the accessibility issue. the most inaccessible website I have seen is jio.com. My humble request to mission accessibility team is kindly consider this also file again complain. On 7/21/22, Rahul Bajaj wrote: > agree, Harish sir. I think both paths can be pursued together. Seeking the > enforcement of what is already on the statute book and seeking legislative > reform to have stronger penalties. The service provider lobby in india is > very strong. so getting any penalties approved will be very hard. > Pragmatically, therefore, I think we often simply have to work with the > framework that we have, imperefect as it is. > > > > On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 18:06, Harish Kotian wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I agree, penalty as an option, should be used cautiously. Having said, >> that, it is not the penalty amount which is a deterrent, but the >> associated reputation risk is something which any establishment would >> like to avoid. It sends a message across, the said party has done >> something which deserves penalty. It vindicates it.This signal is not >> the same as that of a reprimand. We should be open for that as well. A >> nudge like that sends a sharp ripples. It breaks down myth that big >> enterprise can get away because of their sheer size and that we are a >> small fly of which they can easily manage. >> >> >> Harish >> >> On 19/07/2022 17:24, Rahul Bajaj wrote: >> > RPwD Act does envisage penalty of up to 5 lakh. SC fined Spice Jet 10 >> lakh >> > for discriminating against a disabled person. We can use other fora >> > also, >> > like consumer courts. >> > >> > Let us not get hung up on punishing perpetrators, in my view. Instead, >> let >> > is put a positive spin on it. And use the penalties route judiciously. >> > >> > Rahul >> > >> > On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 08:26, Pinkesh Tailor >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> are these efforts backed by some constitutional or legal framework? I >> >> mean, is there some kind of fine or punishment for not meeting the >> >> accessibility guideline? Otherwise we would just be going round the >> >> bush without any concrete results. Chasing each and every website or >> >> mobile app owner and companies would prove to be a night mare. Instead >> >> some law in the RPWD act would empower us to challenge for >> >> accessibility mandates. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: >> >>> Picture Smart is a Jaws feature wherein one can submit a picture for >> >>> analysis. Jaws would provide a discription in the Result Viewer about >> >>> the image. If there is text in the image, Jaws can report that. >> >>> To navigate a captcha, move focus to the captcha image, then Jaws >> >>> key+ >> >>> Space, then P for Picture Smart, and C for control. In the result >> >>> Viewer window, enter on More results to get an idea about the captcha >> >>> text. Often, the captcha letters/digits are provided with spaces in >> >>> between, do away with it, more often than not, you should be good to >> >>> go. >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia >> >>> wrote: >> can you explain about jaws smart picture. How to use it >> >> On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: >> > While captchas are a nightmare from an accessibility point of view, >> > the Jaws Picture Smart can help solve a decent number of those. Its >> > not perfect, but in my experience, it does help in 70 percent of >> > situations. But yes, captchas should be accessible, should be audio >> > options or they should be math based ones. >> > Regards, >> > >> > On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia >> > wrote: >> >> Dear Team, >> >> >> >> Indian bank website is also facing accessibility issues. >> >> There we are facing captcha issue. >> >> I kindly request you to consider this also. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello Ketan, >> >>> Thankyou for your mail. >> >>> We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular >> OTT >> >>> platforms in India since the past few months. >> >>> SonyLiv >> >>> As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few >> >>> remediations >> >> in >> >>> their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to >> >>> share >> a >> >>> list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, >> >>> would >> >> be >> >>> happy to share. >> >>> >> >>> Hotstar >> >>> We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February >> >> 2022, >> >>> attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, >> >>> they >> >> are >> >>> in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall >> >> update >> >>> when get a concrete revert
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agree, Harish sir. I think both paths can be pursued together. Seeking the enforcement of what is already on the statute book and seeking legislative reform to have stronger penalties. The service provider lobby in india is very strong. so getting any penalties approved will be very hard. Pragmatically, therefore, I think we often simply have to work with the framework that we have, imperefect as it is. On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 18:06, Harish Kotian wrote: > Hi > > I agree, penalty as an option, should be used cautiously. Having said, > that, it is not the penalty amount which is a deterrent, but the > associated reputation risk is something which any establishment would > like to avoid. It sends a message across, the said party has done > something which deserves penalty. It vindicates it.This signal is not > the same as that of a reprimand. We should be open for that as well. A > nudge like that sends a sharp ripples. It breaks down myth that big > enterprise can get away because of their sheer size and that we are a > small fly of which they can easily manage. > > > Harish > > On 19/07/2022 17:24, Rahul Bajaj wrote: > > RPwD Act does envisage penalty of up to 5 lakh. SC fined Spice Jet 10 > lakh > > for discriminating against a disabled person. We can use other fora also, > > like consumer courts. > > > > Let us not get hung up on punishing perpetrators, in my view. Instead, > let > > is put a positive spin on it. And use the penalties route judiciously. > > > > Rahul > > > > On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 08:26, Pinkesh Tailor > > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> are these efforts backed by some constitutional or legal framework? I > >> mean, is there some kind of fine or punishment for not meeting the > >> accessibility guideline? Otherwise we would just be going round the > >> bush without any concrete results. Chasing each and every website or > >> mobile app owner and companies would prove to be a night mare. Instead > >> some law in the RPWD act would empower us to challenge for > >> accessibility mandates. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: > >>> Picture Smart is a Jaws feature wherein one can submit a picture for > >>> analysis. Jaws would provide a discription in the Result Viewer about > >>> the image. If there is text in the image, Jaws can report that. > >>> To navigate a captcha, move focus to the captcha image, then Jaws key+ > >>> Space, then P for Picture Smart, and C for control. In the result > >>> Viewer window, enter on More results to get an idea about the captcha > >>> text. Often, the captcha letters/digits are provided with spaces in > >>> between, do away with it, more often than not, you should be good to > >>> go. > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia > >>> wrote: > can you explain about jaws smart picture. How to use it > > On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: > > While captchas are a nightmare from an accessibility point of view, > > the Jaws Picture Smart can help solve a decent number of those. Its > > not perfect, but in my experience, it does help in 70 percent of > > situations. But yes, captchas should be accessible, should be audio > > options or they should be math based ones. > > Regards, > > > > On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia > > wrote: > >> Dear Team, > >> > >> Indian bank website is also facing accessibility issues. > >> There we are facing captcha issue. > >> I kindly request you to consider this also. > >> > >> > >> On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility > >> wrote: > >>> Hello Ketan, > >>> Thankyou for your mail. > >>> We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular > OTT > >>> platforms in India since the past few months. > >>> SonyLiv > >>> As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations > >> in > >>> their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share > a > >>> list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would > >> be > >>> happy to share. > >>> > >>> Hotstar > >>> We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February > >> 2022, > >>> attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, they > >> are > >>> in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall > >> update > >>> when get a concrete revert from them. > >>> > >>> > >>> On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: > Dear Team, > > Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your > attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are > >> totally > inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking > and > payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect > of > life as well since some of us like to use them. > > > Gradually, we may
Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022
Hi I agree, penalty as an option, should be used cautiously. Having said, that, it is not the penalty amount which is a deterrent, but the associated reputation risk is something which any establishment would like to avoid. It sends a message across, the said party has done something which deserves penalty. It vindicates it.This signal is not the same as that of a reprimand. We should be open for that as well. A nudge like that sends a sharp ripples. It breaks down myth that big enterprise can get away because of their sheer size and that we are a small fly of which they can easily manage. Harish On 19/07/2022 17:24, Rahul Bajaj wrote: RPwD Act does envisage penalty of up to 5 lakh. SC fined Spice Jet 10 lakh for discriminating against a disabled person. We can use other fora also, like consumer courts. Let us not get hung up on punishing perpetrators, in my view. Instead, let is put a positive spin on it. And use the penalties route judiciously. Rahul On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 08:26, Pinkesh Tailor wrote: Hi, are these efforts backed by some constitutional or legal framework? I mean, is there some kind of fine or punishment for not meeting the accessibility guideline? Otherwise we would just be going round the bush without any concrete results. Chasing each and every website or mobile app owner and companies would prove to be a night mare. Instead some law in the RPWD act would empower us to challenge for accessibility mandates. Thanks, On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: Picture Smart is a Jaws feature wherein one can submit a picture for analysis. Jaws would provide a discription in the Result Viewer about the image. If there is text in the image, Jaws can report that. To navigate a captcha, move focus to the captcha image, then Jaws key+ Space, then P for Picture Smart, and C for control. In the result Viewer window, enter on More results to get an idea about the captcha text. Often, the captcha letters/digits are provided with spaces in between, do away with it, more often than not, you should be good to go. Regards, On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia wrote: can you explain about jaws smart picture. How to use it On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: While captchas are a nightmare from an accessibility point of view, the Jaws Picture Smart can help solve a decent number of those. Its not perfect, but in my experience, it does help in 70 percent of situations. But yes, captchas should be accessible, should be audio options or they should be math based ones. Regards, On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia wrote: Dear Team, Indian bank website is also facing accessibility issues. There we are facing captcha issue. I kindly request you to consider this also. On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility wrote: Hello Ketan, Thankyou for your mail. We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT platforms in India since the past few months. SonyLiv As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations in their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share a list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would be happy to share. Hotstar We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February 2022, attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, they are in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall update when get a concrete revert from them. On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: Dear Team, Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are totally inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking and payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of life as well since some of us like to use them. Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am aware that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it becomes more and more interesting. Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can be of any help please do not hesitate. Best, Ketan On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility < missionaccessibil...@gmail.com> wrote: PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you have any feedback for us. Thank you The Mission Accessibility Team -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit
Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022
RPwD Act does envisage penalty of up to 5 lakh. SC fined Spice Jet 10 lakh for discriminating against a disabled person. We can use other fora also, like consumer courts. Let us not get hung up on punishing perpetrators, in my view. Instead, let is put a positive spin on it. And use the penalties route judiciously. Rahul On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 08:26, Pinkesh Tailor wrote: > Hi, > > are these efforts backed by some constitutional or legal framework? I > mean, is there some kind of fine or punishment for not meeting the > accessibility guideline? Otherwise we would just be going round the > bush without any concrete results. Chasing each and every website or > mobile app owner and companies would prove to be a night mare. Instead > some law in the RPWD act would empower us to challenge for > accessibility mandates. > > Thanks, > > On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: > > Picture Smart is a Jaws feature wherein one can submit a picture for > > analysis. Jaws would provide a discription in the Result Viewer about > > the image. If there is text in the image, Jaws can report that. > > To navigate a captcha, move focus to the captcha image, then Jaws key+ > > Space, then P for Picture Smart, and C for control. In the result > > Viewer window, enter on More results to get an idea about the captcha > > text. Often, the captcha letters/digits are provided with spaces in > > between, do away with it, more often than not, you should be good to > > go. > > Regards, > > > > On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia > > wrote: > >> can you explain about jaws smart picture. How to use it > >> > >> On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: > >>> While captchas are a nightmare from an accessibility point of view, > >>> the Jaws Picture Smart can help solve a decent number of those. Its > >>> not perfect, but in my experience, it does help in 70 percent of > >>> situations. But yes, captchas should be accessible, should be audio > >>> options or they should be math based ones. > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia > >>> wrote: > Dear Team, > > Indian bank website is also facing accessibility issues. > There we are facing captcha issue. > I kindly request you to consider this also. > > > On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility > wrote: > > Hello Ketan, > > Thankyou for your mail. > > We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT > > platforms in India since the past few months. > > SonyLiv > > As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations > in > > their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share a > > list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would > be > > happy to share. > > > > Hotstar > > We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February > 2022, > > attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, they > are > > in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall > update > > when get a concrete revert from them. > > > > > > On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: > >> Dear Team, > >> > >> Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your > >> attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are > totally > >> inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking > >> and > >> payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of > >> life as well since some of us like to use them. > >> > >> > >> Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am > >> aware > >> that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it > >> becomes more and more interesting. > >> > >> Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can > >> be of any help please do not hesitate. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Ketan > >> > >> On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility < > missionaccessibil...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you > >>> have > >>> any feedback for us. > >>> Thank you > >>> The Mission Accessibility Team > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Disclaimer: > >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the > >>> thinking > >>> of > >>> the > >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its > >>> veracity; > >>> > >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on > the > >>> mails > >>> sent through this mailing list.. > >>> > >>> > >>> Search for old postings at: > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > >>> --- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> Groups > >>> "AccessIndia" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop
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Hi Some Channels have now started close captioning. DD too had started for news. However, none of the local OTT are doing Audio description. I certainly don't include Netflix which has a decent content in AD. Harish On 18/07/2022 10:53, Ketan Kothari wrote: Dear Team, Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are totally inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking and payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of life as well since some of us like to use them. Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am aware that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it becomes more and more interesting. Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can be of any help please do not hesitate. Best, Ketan On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility wrote: PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you have any feedback for us. Thank you The Mission Accessibility Team -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/MAZPR01MB71680B6C5C3DF7D252DE21C7D28F9%40MAZPR01MB7168.INDPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM.
RE: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022
Please also include <https://contents.tdscpc.gov.in/> <https://contents.tdscpc.gov.in/> https://contents.tdscpc.gov.in in this great initiative. From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj Sent: 18 July 2022 10:56 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022 Hi everyone. I am truly heartened to see the volume of messages in this thread. It shows how significant a problem inaccessibility is, and underscores the importance of doing the work that we have taken up. We would need your constant support end guidance as we transform inaccessibility of the digital marketplace in India from an inconvenience to be tolerated into a violation of rights to be remedied. Thank you. Rahul Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> _ From: 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2022 10:34:48 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in <mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Subject: Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022 can you explain about jaws smart picture. How to use it On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker mailto:maheshspanic...@gmail.com> > wrote: > While captchas are a nightmare from an accessibility point of view, > the Jaws Picture Smart can help solve a decent number of those. Its > not perfect, but in my experience, it does help in 70 percent of > situations. But yes, captchas should be accessible, should be audio > options or they should be math based ones. > Regards, > > On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia > mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > > wrote: >> Dear Team, >> >> Indian bank website is also facing accessibility issues. >> There we are facing captcha issue. >> I kindly request you to consider this also. >> >> >> On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility > <mailto:missionaccessibil...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>> Hello Ketan, >>> Thankyou for your mail. >>> We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT >>> platforms in India since the past few months. >>> SonyLiv >>> As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations in >>> their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share a >>> list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would be >>> happy to share. >>> >>> Hotstar >>> We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February 2022, >>> attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, they are >>> in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall update >>> when get a concrete revert from them. >>> >>> >>> On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari >> <mailto:muktake...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>>> Dear Team, >>>> >>>> Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your >>>> attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are totally >>>> inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking and >>>> payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of >>>> life as well since some of us like to use them. >>>> >>>> >>>> Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am aware >>>> that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it >>>> becomes more and more interesting. >>>> >>>> Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can >>>> be of any help please do not hesitate. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Ketan >>>> >>>> On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility >>> <mailto:missionaccessibil...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: >>>>> PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you >>>>> have >>>>> any feedback for us. >>>>> Thank you >>>>> The Mission Accessibility Team >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking >>>>> of >>>>> the >>>>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >>>>> veracity; >>>>> >>>>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>>>> mails >>>>> sent through this mailing list.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>&g
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Hi, are these efforts backed by some constitutional or legal framework? I mean, is there some kind of fine or punishment for not meeting the accessibility guideline? Otherwise we would just be going round the bush without any concrete results. Chasing each and every website or mobile app owner and companies would prove to be a night mare. Instead some law in the RPWD act would empower us to challenge for accessibility mandates. Thanks, On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: > Picture Smart is a Jaws feature wherein one can submit a picture for > analysis. Jaws would provide a discription in the Result Viewer about > the image. If there is text in the image, Jaws can report that. > To navigate a captcha, move focus to the captcha image, then Jaws key+ > Space, then P for Picture Smart, and C for control. In the result > Viewer window, enter on More results to get an idea about the captcha > text. Often, the captcha letters/digits are provided with spaces in > between, do away with it, more often than not, you should be good to > go. > Regards, > > On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia > wrote: >> can you explain about jaws smart picture. How to use it >> >> On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: >>> While captchas are a nightmare from an accessibility point of view, >>> the Jaws Picture Smart can help solve a decent number of those. Its >>> not perfect, but in my experience, it does help in 70 percent of >>> situations. But yes, captchas should be accessible, should be audio >>> options or they should be math based ones. >>> Regards, >>> >>> On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia >>> wrote: Dear Team, Indian bank website is also facing accessibility issues. There we are facing captcha issue. I kindly request you to consider this also. On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility wrote: > Hello Ketan, > Thankyou for your mail. > We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT > platforms in India since the past few months. > SonyLiv > As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations in > their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share a > list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would be > happy to share. > > Hotstar > We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February 2022, > attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, they are > in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall update > when get a concrete revert from them. > > > On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: >> Dear Team, >> >> Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your >> attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are totally >> inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking >> and >> payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of >> life as well since some of us like to use them. >> >> >> Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am >> aware >> that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it >> becomes more and more interesting. >> >> Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can >> be of any help please do not hesitate. >> >> Best, >> >> Ketan >> >> On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility >> wrote: >>> PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you >>> have >>> any feedback for us. >>> Thank you >>> The Mission Accessibility Team >>> >>> -- >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the >>> thinking >>> of >>> the >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >>> veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> sent through this mailing list.. >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "AccessIndia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> send >>> an >>> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ketan Kothari >> Phone: [r] 02228283281, >> Cell: +919987550614 >> +917021054612 >> Facebook: facebook.com/muktaketan >> Twitter: @muktaketan >> Skype ID: Ketan >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking >> of
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Picture Smart is a Jaws feature wherein one can submit a picture for analysis. Jaws would provide a discription in the Result Viewer about the image. If there is text in the image, Jaws can report that. To navigate a captcha, move focus to the captcha image, then Jaws key+ Space, then P for Picture Smart, and C for control. In the result Viewer window, enter on More results to get an idea about the captcha text. Often, the captcha letters/digits are provided with spaces in between, do away with it, more often than not, you should be good to go. Regards, On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia wrote: > can you explain about jaws smart picture. How to use it > > On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: >> While captchas are a nightmare from an accessibility point of view, >> the Jaws Picture Smart can help solve a decent number of those. Its >> not perfect, but in my experience, it does help in 70 percent of >> situations. But yes, captchas should be accessible, should be audio >> options or they should be math based ones. >> Regards, >> >> On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia >> wrote: >>> Dear Team, >>> >>> Indian bank website is also facing accessibility issues. >>> There we are facing captcha issue. >>> I kindly request you to consider this also. >>> >>> >>> On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility >>> wrote: Hello Ketan, Thankyou for your mail. We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT platforms in India since the past few months. SonyLiv As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations in their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share a list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would be happy to share. Hotstar We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February 2022, attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, they are in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall update when get a concrete revert from them. On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: > Dear Team, > > Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your > attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are totally > inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking and > payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of > life as well since some of us like to use them. > > > Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am aware > that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it > becomes more and more interesting. > > Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can > be of any help please do not hesitate. > > Best, > > Ketan > > On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility > wrote: >> PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you >> have >> any feedback for us. >> Thank you >> The Mission Accessibility Team >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking >> of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >> veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> "AccessIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send >> an >> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. >> > > > -- > Ketan Kothari > Phone: [r] 02228283281, > Cell: +919987550614 > +917021054612 > Facebook: facebook.com/muktaketan > Twitter: @muktaketan > Skype ID: Ketan > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking > of > the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its > veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the > mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion
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Hi everyone. I am truly heartened to see the volume of messages in this thread. It shows how significant a problem inaccessibility is, and underscores the importance of doing the work that we have taken up. We would need your constant support end guidance as we transform inaccessibility of the digital marketplace in India from an inconvenience to be tolerated into a violation of rights to be remedied. Thank you. Rahul Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia Sent: Monday, July 18, 2022 10:34:48 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022 can you explain about jaws smart picture. How to use it On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: > While captchas are a nightmare from an accessibility point of view, > the Jaws Picture Smart can help solve a decent number of those. Its > not perfect, but in my experience, it does help in 70 percent of > situations. But yes, captchas should be accessible, should be audio > options or they should be math based ones. > Regards, > > On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia > wrote: >> Dear Team, >> >> Indian bank website is also facing accessibility issues. >> There we are facing captcha issue. >> I kindly request you to consider this also. >> >> >> On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility wrote: >>> Hello Ketan, >>> Thankyou for your mail. >>> We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT >>> platforms in India since the past few months. >>> SonyLiv >>> As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations in >>> their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share a >>> list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would be >>> happy to share. >>> >>> Hotstar >>> We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February 2022, >>> attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, they are >>> in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall update >>> when get a concrete revert from them. >>> >>> >>> On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: >>>> Dear Team, >>>> >>>> Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your >>>> attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are totally >>>> inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking and >>>> payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of >>>> life as well since some of us like to use them. >>>> >>>> >>>> Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am aware >>>> that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it >>>> becomes more and more interesting. >>>> >>>> Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can >>>> be of any help please do not hesitate. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Ketan >>>> >>>> On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility >>>> wrote: >>>>> PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you >>>>> have >>>>> any feedback for us. >>>>> Thank you >>>>> The Mission Accessibility Team >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking >>>>> of >>>>> the >>>>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >>>>> veracity; >>>>> >>>>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>>>> mails >>>>> sent through this mailing list.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "AccessIndia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an >>>>> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. >>>>> >>>> &g
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can you explain about jaws smart picture. How to use it On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: > While captchas are a nightmare from an accessibility point of view, > the Jaws Picture Smart can help solve a decent number of those. Its > not perfect, but in my experience, it does help in 70 percent of > situations. But yes, captchas should be accessible, should be audio > options or they should be math based ones. > Regards, > > On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia > wrote: >> Dear Team, >> >> Indian bank website is also facing accessibility issues. >> There we are facing captcha issue. >> I kindly request you to consider this also. >> >> >> On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility wrote: >>> Hello Ketan, >>> Thankyou for your mail. >>> We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT >>> platforms in India since the past few months. >>> SonyLiv >>> As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations in >>> their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share a >>> list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would be >>> happy to share. >>> >>> Hotstar >>> We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February 2022, >>> attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, they are >>> in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall update >>> when get a concrete revert from them. >>> >>> >>> On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: Dear Team, Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are totally inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking and payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of life as well since some of us like to use them. Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am aware that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it becomes more and more interesting. Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can be of any help please do not hesitate. Best, Ketan On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility wrote: > PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you > have > any feedback for us. > Thank you > The Mission Accessibility Team > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking > of > the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its > veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the > mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. > -- Ketan Kothari Phone: [r] 02228283281, Cell: +919987550614 +917021054612 Facebook: facebook.com/muktaketan Twitter: @muktaketan Skype ID: Ketan -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAC4kLWWELm_NxrXUjkMWdrauka02fQdFODSxSQrNfhRQXW%2Bf1A%40mail.gmail.com. >>> >>> -- >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> the >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> sent through this mailing list.. >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "AccessIndia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop
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While captchas are a nightmare from an accessibility point of view, the Jaws Picture Smart can help solve a decent number of those. Its not perfect, but in my experience, it does help in 70 percent of situations. But yes, captchas should be accessible, should be audio options or they should be math based ones. Regards, On 7/18/22, 'Saravanan K' via AccessIndia wrote: > Dear Team, > > Indian bank website is also facing accessibility issues. > There we are facing captcha issue. > I kindly request you to consider this also. > > > On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility wrote: >> Hello Ketan, >> Thankyou for your mail. >> We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT >> platforms in India since the past few months. >> SonyLiv >> As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations in >> their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share a >> list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would be >> happy to share. >> >> Hotstar >> We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February 2022, >> attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, they are >> in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall update >> when get a concrete revert from them. >> >> >> On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: >>> Dear Team, >>> >>> Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your >>> attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are totally >>> inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking and >>> payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of >>> life as well since some of us like to use them. >>> >>> >>> Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am aware >>> that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it >>> becomes more and more interesting. >>> >>> Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can >>> be of any help please do not hesitate. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Ketan >>> >>> On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility >>> wrote: PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you have any feedback for us. Thank you The Mission Accessibility Team -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ketan Kothari >>> Phone: [r] 02228283281, >>> Cell: +919987550614 >>> +917021054612 >>> Facebook: facebook.com/muktaketan >>> Twitter: @muktaketan >>> Skype ID: Ketan >>> >>> -- >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> the >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> sent through this mailing list.. >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "AccessIndia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAC4kLWWELm_NxrXUjkMWdrauka02fQdFODSxSQrNfhRQXW%2Bf1A%40mail.gmail.com. >>> >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "AccessIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>
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Dear Team, Indian bank website is also facing accessibility issues. There we are facing captcha issue. I kindly request you to consider this also. On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility wrote: > Hello Ketan, > Thankyou for your mail. > We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT > platforms in India since the past few months. > SonyLiv > As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations in > their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share a > list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would be > happy to share. > > Hotstar > We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February 2022, > attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, they are > in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall update > when get a concrete revert from them. > > > On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: >> Dear Team, >> >> Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your >> attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are totally >> inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking and >> payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of >> life as well since some of us like to use them. >> >> >> Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am aware >> that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it >> becomes more and more interesting. >> >> Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can >> be of any help please do not hesitate. >> >> Best, >> >> Ketan >> >> On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility >> wrote: >>> PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you have >>> any feedback for us. >>> Thank you >>> The Mission Accessibility Team >>> >>> -- >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> the >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> sent through this mailing list.. >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "AccessIndia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ketan Kothari >> Phone: [r] 02228283281, >> Cell: +919987550614 >> +917021054612 >> Facebook: facebook.com/muktaketan >> Twitter: @muktaketan >> Skype ID: Ketan >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "AccessIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAC4kLWWELm_NxrXUjkMWdrauka02fQdFODSxSQrNfhRQXW%2Bf1A%40mail.gmail.com. >> > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHN4MqN2e7Ycb54%3DH5%2BEcbaB1Rk4QJwJamwLX-G7LGk03w%40mail.gmail.com. > -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
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Hai Team, Good initiative. Many of us are facing several hurdles in applying & getting UDID card. We want to overcome those hurdles. We are unaware to contact anybody to resolve our issues. We are in need of any specific contact person or team to make it streamline. Please consider this point & make it ease. Regards. Saravanan.K +91 9916512402 On 7/18/22, Lokesh Naik wrote: > Hi Team, > thanks for this. > really, really, it is good job. > i would like to say about Jio TV accessability is really worst through > Android mobile. > previously, it was very good, but for the past 6 to 8 months, really > very bad for screen reader users. > i am using for the past 4 years, but now only i am really facing > very, very, very, bad. > > > On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility wrote: >> PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you have >> any feedback for us. >> Thank you >> The Mission Accessibility Team >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "AccessIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. >> > > > -- > Regards, > Life is short, makes it sweet. > Mob: 9113919994 > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CACkB1oEezMTD%3DaEDRc_UqwiOVq-mCiUkcE%3DE8M9OxQac0SnGjw%40mail.gmail.com. > -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAPUyY5eAHdQwt1pZ67PXMo9uNVuOCVL8K8WEp6d3RFPETa%2B7BA%40mail.gmail.com.
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Hello all, Thank you for your suggestions. We have contacted each one of them flagged by you. Either directly or through some of our friends on this list who we had shared their contact details and email template. Unfortunately, with most of them, either the conversations have hit a roadblock or the service providers have not at all responded. We are figuring out other ways of getting these resolved. Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in on behalf of Mahesh S. Panicker Sent: Monday, July 18, 2022 4:20:30 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022 Great to know this. Thanks a lot George sir. Rather than individuals contacting and ending up spamming his inbox, could this be worked through the team? I would be glad to be of any assistance. Regards, On 7/18/22, George Abraham wrote: > Rahul Gupta is a senior person with Axis Bank. He happens to be visually > impaired. He is very interested in assisting with accessibility issues in > his bank. We could reach him on rahulgup...@gmail.com > > > I had interviewed him on one of the earlier episodes of Eyeway > Conversations. > > Best, > > George > > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] > On Behalf Of Mahesh S. Panicker > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2022 2:08 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022 > > In line with the focus area of the present round of initiative on the > banking sector, I would like to flag the absolute accessibility disaster > that the Axis Bank Axis Mobile android application is. From signing up to > using the app basic features, it is very disfunctional. > When I had taken an individual initiative of communicating with them, they > got back saying its the problem of the 3rd party app(TalkBack) rather than > any issue at their end, efferts at telling them that TalkBack is not a 3rd > party app and that it is an integral part of Android app, and the problem is > at the Axis end wherein they didn't follow Google Accessibility Norms, > didn't receive a response. I have used mobile applications from 9 banks, the > Axis one has to be the absolute worst. > Hope this initiative can reach them, and make them have a dose of reality. > Regards, > > On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: >> Hi Team, >> >> Lovely to know this. Zee5 is a nightmare and this statement of mine >> is much less than what my actual feelings are. I have been talking to >> them but unfortunately I am not able to reach any of their development >> team. Also, I do notice some improvement in SonyLiv but it is yet too >> little. >> >> Android app of Hotstar is still better but IOS version shows all the >> episodes clubbed together. We can talk at a later date when it suits >> you. >> >> Thank you and keep up the good work. >> >> With best wishes, >> >> Ketan >> >> On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility >> wrote: >>> Hello Ketan, >>> Thankyou for your mail. >>> We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT >>> platforms in India since the past few months. >>> SonyLiv >>> As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations >>> in their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share >>> a list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would >>> be happy to share. >>> >>> Hotstar >>> We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February >>> 2022, attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, >>> they are in process of making remediations but would take time. We >>> shall update when get a concrete revert from them. >>> >>> >>> On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: >>>> Dear Team, >>>> >>>> Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your >>>> attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are >>>> totally inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things >>>> banking and payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to >>>> these aspect of life as well since some of us like to use them. >>>> >>>> >>>> Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am >>>> aware that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason >>>> it becomes more and more interesting. >>>> >>>> Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expe
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Great to know this. Thanks a lot George sir. Rather than individuals contacting and ending up spamming his inbox, could this be worked through the team? I would be glad to be of any assistance. Regards, On 7/18/22, George Abraham wrote: > Rahul Gupta is a senior person with Axis Bank. He happens to be visually > impaired. He is very interested in assisting with accessibility issues in > his bank. We could reach him on rahulgup...@gmail.com > > > I had interviewed him on one of the earlier episodes of Eyeway > Conversations. > > Best, > > George > > > -Original Message- > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] > On Behalf Of Mahesh S. Panicker > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2022 2:08 PM > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022 > > In line with the focus area of the present round of initiative on the > banking sector, I would like to flag the absolute accessibility disaster > that the Axis Bank Axis Mobile android application is. From signing up to > using the app basic features, it is very disfunctional. > When I had taken an individual initiative of communicating with them, they > got back saying its the problem of the 3rd party app(TalkBack) rather than > any issue at their end, efferts at telling them that TalkBack is not a 3rd > party app and that it is an integral part of Android app, and the problem is > at the Axis end wherein they didn't follow Google Accessibility Norms, > didn't receive a response. I have used mobile applications from 9 banks, the > Axis one has to be the absolute worst. > Hope this initiative can reach them, and make them have a dose of reality. > Regards, > > On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: >> Hi Team, >> >> Lovely to know this. Zee5 is a nightmare and this statement of mine >> is much less than what my actual feelings are. I have been talking to >> them but unfortunately I am not able to reach any of their development >> team. Also, I do notice some improvement in SonyLiv but it is yet too >> little. >> >> Android app of Hotstar is still better but IOS version shows all the >> episodes clubbed together. We can talk at a later date when it suits >> you. >> >> Thank you and keep up the good work. >> >> With best wishes, >> >> Ketan >> >> On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility >> wrote: >>> Hello Ketan, >>> Thankyou for your mail. >>> We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT >>> platforms in India since the past few months. >>> SonyLiv >>> As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations >>> in their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share >>> a list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would >>> be happy to share. >>> >>> Hotstar >>> We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February >>> 2022, attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, >>> they are in process of making remediations but would take time. We >>> shall update when get a concrete revert from them. >>> >>> >>> On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: >>>> Dear Team, >>>> >>>> Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your >>>> attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are >>>> totally inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things >>>> banking and payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to >>>> these aspect of life as well since some of us like to use them. >>>> >>>> >>>> Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am >>>> aware that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason >>>> it becomes more and more interesting. >>>> >>>> Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can >>>> be of any help please do not hesitate. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Ketan >>>> >>>> On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you >>>>> have any feedback for us. >>>>> Thank you >>>>> The Mission Accessibility Team >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the >>>>> thinking of the person sending the mail
RE: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022
Rahul Gupta is a senior person with Axis Bank. He happens to be visually impaired. He is very interested in assisting with accessibility issues in his bank. We could reach him on rahulgup...@gmail.com I had interviewed him on one of the earlier episodes of Eyeway Conversations. Best, George -Original Message- From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mahesh S. Panicker Sent: Monday, July 18, 2022 2:08 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022 In line with the focus area of the present round of initiative on the banking sector, I would like to flag the absolute accessibility disaster that the Axis Bank Axis Mobile android application is. From signing up to using the app basic features, it is very disfunctional. When I had taken an individual initiative of communicating with them, they got back saying its the problem of the 3rd party app(TalkBack) rather than any issue at their end, efferts at telling them that TalkBack is not a 3rd party app and that it is an integral part of Android app, and the problem is at the Axis end wherein they didn't follow Google Accessibility Norms, didn't receive a response. I have used mobile applications from 9 banks, the Axis one has to be the absolute worst. Hope this initiative can reach them, and make them have a dose of reality. Regards, On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: > Hi Team, > > Lovely to know this. Zee5 is a nightmare and this statement of mine > is much less than what my actual feelings are. I have been talking to > them but unfortunately I am not able to reach any of their development > team. Also, I do notice some improvement in SonyLiv but it is yet too > little. > > Android app of Hotstar is still better but IOS version shows all the > episodes clubbed together. We can talk at a later date when it suits > you. > > Thank you and keep up the good work. > > With best wishes, > > Ketan > > On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility > wrote: >> Hello Ketan, >> Thankyou for your mail. >> We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT >> platforms in India since the past few months. >> SonyLiv >> As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations >> in their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share >> a list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would >> be happy to share. >> >> Hotstar >> We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February >> 2022, attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, >> they are in process of making remediations but would take time. We >> shall update when get a concrete revert from them. >> >> >> On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: >>> Dear Team, >>> >>> Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your >>> attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are >>> totally inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things >>> banking and payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to >>> these aspect of life as well since some of us like to use them. >>> >>> >>> Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am >>> aware that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason >>> it becomes more and more interesting. >>> >>> Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can >>> be of any help please do not hesitate. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Ketan >>> >>> On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility >>> >>> wrote: >>>> PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you >>>> have any feedback for us. >>>> Thank you >>>> The Mission Accessibility Team >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Disclaimer: >>>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the >>>> thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates >>>> itself to its veracity; >>>> >>>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on >>>> the mails sent through this mailing list.. >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "AccessIndia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>> send
Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022
Hi Team, thanks for this. really, really, it is good job. i would like to say about Jio TV accessability is really worst through Android mobile. previously, it was very good, but for the past 6 to 8 months, really very bad for screen reader users. i am using for the past 4 years, but now only i am really facing very, very, very, bad. On 7/18/22, Mission Accessibility wrote: > PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you have > any feedback for us. > Thank you > The Mission Accessibility Team > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. > -- Regards, Life is short, makes it sweet. Mob: 9113919994 -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CACkB1oEezMTD%3DaEDRc_UqwiOVq-mCiUkcE%3DE8M9OxQac0SnGjw%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022
Hi, This is really phenomenal work, kudos to the entire team of mission accessibility. I would like to chip in with the suggestion of taking up the accessibility issue with Rapido, especially on IOS. On 7/18/22, Mahesh S. Panicker wrote: > In line with the focus area of the present round of initiative on the > banking sector, I would like to flag the absolute accessibility > disaster that the Axis Bank Axis Mobile android application is. From > signing up to using the app basic features, it is very disfunctional. > When I had taken an individual initiative of communicating with them, > they got back saying its the problem of the 3rd party app(TalkBack) > rather than any issue at their end, efferts at telling them that > TalkBack is not a 3rd party app and that it is an integral part of > Android app, and the problem is at the Axis end wherein they didn't > follow Google Accessibility Norms, didn't receive a response. I have > used mobile applications from 9 banks, the Axis one has to be the > absolute worst. > Hope this initiative can reach them, and make them have a dose of reality. > Regards, > > On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: >> Hi Team, >> >> Lovely to know this. Zee5 is a nightmare and this statement of mine >> is much less than what my actual feelings are. I have been talking to >> them but unfortunately I am not able to reach any of their development >> team. Also, I do notice some improvement in SonyLiv but it is yet too >> little. >> >> Android app of Hotstar is still better but IOS version shows all the >> episodes clubbed together. We can talk at a later date when it suits >> you. >> >> Thank you and keep up the good work. >> >> With best wishes, >> >> Ketan >> >> On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility >> wrote: >>> Hello Ketan, >>> Thankyou for your mail. >>> We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT >>> platforms in India since the past few months. >>> SonyLiv >>> As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations in >>> their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share a >>> list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would be >>> happy to share. >>> >>> Hotstar >>> We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February 2022, >>> attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, they are >>> in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall update >>> when get a concrete revert from them. >>> >>> >>> On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: Dear Team, Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are totally inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking and payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of life as well since some of us like to use them. Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am aware that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it becomes more and more interesting. Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can be of any help please do not hesitate. Best, Ketan On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility wrote: > PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you > have > any feedback for us. > Thank you > The Mission Accessibility Team > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking > of > the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its > veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the > mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. > -- Ketan Kothari Phone: [r] 02228283281, Cell: +919987550614 +917021054612 Facebook: facebook.com/muktaketan Twitter: @muktaketan Skype ID: Ketan -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at:
Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022
In line with the focus area of the present round of initiative on the banking sector, I would like to flag the absolute accessibility disaster that the Axis Bank Axis Mobile android application is. From signing up to using the app basic features, it is very disfunctional. When I had taken an individual initiative of communicating with them, they got back saying its the problem of the 3rd party app(TalkBack) rather than any issue at their end, efferts at telling them that TalkBack is not a 3rd party app and that it is an integral part of Android app, and the problem is at the Axis end wherein they didn't follow Google Accessibility Norms, didn't receive a response. I have used mobile applications from 9 banks, the Axis one has to be the absolute worst. Hope this initiative can reach them, and make them have a dose of reality. Regards, On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: > Hi Team, > > Lovely to know this. Zee5 is a nightmare and this statement of mine > is much less than what my actual feelings are. I have been talking to > them but unfortunately I am not able to reach any of their development > team. Also, I do notice some improvement in SonyLiv but it is yet too > little. > > Android app of Hotstar is still better but IOS version shows all the > episodes clubbed together. We can talk at a later date when it suits > you. > > Thank you and keep up the good work. > > With best wishes, > > Ketan > > On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility > wrote: >> Hello Ketan, >> Thankyou for your mail. >> We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT >> platforms in India since the past few months. >> SonyLiv >> As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations in >> their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share a >> list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would be >> happy to share. >> >> Hotstar >> We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February 2022, >> attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, they are >> in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall update >> when get a concrete revert from them. >> >> >> On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: >>> Dear Team, >>> >>> Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your >>> attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are totally >>> inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking and >>> payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of >>> life as well since some of us like to use them. >>> >>> >>> Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am aware >>> that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it >>> becomes more and more interesting. >>> >>> Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can >>> be of any help please do not hesitate. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Ketan >>> >>> On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility >>> wrote: PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you have any feedback for us. Thank you The Mission Accessibility Team -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ketan Kothari >>> Phone: [r] 02228283281, >>> Cell: +919987550614 >>> +917021054612 >>> Facebook: facebook.com/muktaketan >>> Twitter: @muktaketan >>> Skype ID: Ketan >>> >>> -- >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> the >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> sent through this mailing list.. >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "AccessIndia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>
Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022
Hi Team, Lovely to know this. Zee5 is a nightmare and this statement of mine is much less than what my actual feelings are. I have been talking to them but unfortunately I am not able to reach any of their development team. Also, I do notice some improvement in SonyLiv but it is yet too little. Android app of Hotstar is still better but IOS version shows all the episodes clubbed together. We can talk at a later date when it suits you. Thank you and keep up the good work. With best wishes, Ketan On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility wrote: > Hello Ketan, > Thankyou for your mail. > We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT > platforms in India since the past few months. > SonyLiv > As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations in > their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share a > list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would be > happy to share. > > Hotstar > We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February 2022, > attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, they are > in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall update > when get a concrete revert from them. > > > On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: >> Dear Team, >> >> Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your >> attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are totally >> inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking and >> payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of >> life as well since some of us like to use them. >> >> >> Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am aware >> that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it >> becomes more and more interesting. >> >> Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can >> be of any help please do not hesitate. >> >> Best, >> >> Ketan >> >> On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility >> wrote: >>> PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you have >>> any feedback for us. >>> Thank you >>> The Mission Accessibility Team >>> >>> -- >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> the >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> sent through this mailing list.. >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "AccessIndia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Ketan Kothari >> Phone: [r] 02228283281, >> Cell: +919987550614 >> +917021054612 >> Facebook: facebook.com/muktaketan >> Twitter: @muktaketan >> Skype ID: Ketan >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "AccessIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAC4kLWWELm_NxrXUjkMWdrauka02fQdFODSxSQrNfhRQXW%2Bf1A%40mail.gmail.com. >> > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHN4MqN2e7Ycb54%3DH5%2BEcbaB1Rk4QJwJamwLX-G7LGk03w%40mail.gmail.com. > -- Ketan Kothari Phone: [r] 02228283281, Cell: +919987550614 +917021054612 Facebook: facebook.com/muktaketan Twitter: @muktaketan Skype ID: Ketan
Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022
Hello Ketan, Thankyou for your mail. We have been working with SonyLiv and Hotstar, the 2 most popular OTT platforms in India since the past few months. SonyLiv As per our last telecon, they claim to have made a few remediations in their latest release. Basis our request, they have agreed to share a list of these remediations over email. As soon as we receive, would be happy to share. Hotstar We conducted a sensitization workshop for their team in February 2022, attended by about 180 people. Basis the latest communication, they are in process of making remediations but would take time. We shall update when get a concrete revert from them. On 7/18/22, Ketan Kothari wrote: > Dear Team, > > Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your > attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are totally > inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking and > payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of > life as well since some of us like to use them. > > > Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am aware > that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it > becomes more and more interesting. > > Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can > be of any help please do not hesitate. > > Best, > > Ketan > > On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility > wrote: >> PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you have >> any feedback for us. >> Thank you >> The Mission Accessibility Team >> >> -- >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "AccessIndia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. >> > > > -- > Ketan Kothari > Phone: [r] 02228283281, > Cell: +919987550614 > +917021054612 > Facebook: facebook.com/muktaketan > Twitter: @muktaketan > Skype ID: Ketan > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAC4kLWWELm_NxrXUjkMWdrauka02fQdFODSxSQrNfhRQXW%2Bf1A%40mail.gmail.com. > -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHN4MqN2e7Ycb54%3DH5%2BEcbaB1Rk4QJwJamwLX-G7LGk03w%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: [AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022
Dear Team, Excellent initiative. Nevertheless, I would like to draw your attention at the fact that several OTT platforms in India are totally inaccessible. I acknoledge that in the priority of things banking and payment apps are higher, we need to pay attention to these aspect of life as well since some of us like to use them. Gradually, we may have to divide time between these areas. I am aware that the work is huge and challenging but that is the reason it becomes more and more interesting. Although I am neither a lawyer nor an accessibility expert, if I can be of any help please do not hesitate. Best, Ketan On 18/07/2022, Mission Accessibility wrote: > PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you have > any feedback for us. > Thank you > The Mission Accessibility Team > > -- > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "AccessIndia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. > -- Ketan Kothari Phone: [r] 02228283281, Cell: +919987550614 +917021054612 Facebook: facebook.com/muktaketan Twitter: @muktaketan Skype ID: Ketan -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAC4kLWWELm_NxrXUjkMWdrauka02fQdFODSxSQrNfhRQXW%2Bf1A%40mail.gmail.com.
[AI] Minutes - Weekly meeting on July 16, 2022
PFA the minutes of our weekly meeting and please let us know if you have any feedback for us. Thank you The Mission Accessibility Team -- Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AccessIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessindia+unsubscr...@accessindia.org.in. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/accessindia.org.in/d/msgid/accessindia/CAMPTOHODGcDur1%2BZV_tuWEFONVCgvdJoWqBbK69iJd9AQHRidA%40mail.gmail.com. Weekly Meeting - minutes July 16, 2022.docx Description: MS-Word 2007 document
