Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station
I am keenly following this discussion about difficulties faced by persons with blindness in Delhi Metro. And wish to share few things: A) whenever you are in difficulty and cluless at Station, dial helpline numbers (155370 and 2218) ladies/men will come and assist you. This service works well. B) I wonder why don't Delhi Metro train blind travellers about how to use tactile pathways? How many of us actually know how this path helps us and where does it lead to? C) I heard from one of my friends who took part in First Asian Para games held in Guangzhou China, that there one can't jump or fall on Metro track, in fact only train door opens rest is covered with glasses. D) being a blind, I can bouch Better travelling experience outcome is based on better mobility. So hold a stick and march on... the more you're dependent the more you're scared. On 3/5/14, Preeti Monga wrote: > Incedently Sweety was with someone from her office and had assistance! Can > you imagine what could have happened if she was alone? > Preeti > > Preeti Monga > Director > > > > Mobile: +91 9871701646 > Landline: 011 22781446 > E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in > Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org > Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training > -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate > ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying > workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and > Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. > > We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete > customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Ajay Minocha > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 12:53 AM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > Hi friends, > Though I love traveling alone, while traveling during tipical office > hours, I frankly ask for assistance. > I know that I can manage alone as well but most of the times, people > don't let you go even when you are walking with a big white cane in > your hand. > And I don't want to be unnecessarily waiting around or crushed just > because I can't see! > I totally agree with Vikas sir. > I never get into the ladies coach even when the guards insure me of no > complaints. > I simpally say "it feels that I have been sent in some alion world" > The guys have a loud laugh most of the times and don't argue with me > anymore! > Regards, > Ajay > > On 3/2/14, P. Subramani wrote: >> Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro stationwhy not >> a >> coach for the disabled, as we supposedly have in normal trains? >> ----- Original Message - >> From: rajpal >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerningthe disabled.' >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 1:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro >> station >> >> >> Very true! >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf >> Of Vikas Kapoor >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 11:14 AM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro >> station >> >> I don't second this opinion that blind people should be encouraged to >> travel >> in the ladies coach because you know quite often some of the people with >> vision impairment are not easily noticed that they are blind and once >> some >> of the ladies see men around them in the ladies coach they pass a very >> dirty >> comments over them, although once they get to know about that, they >> indeed >> regret! I personally never intend to be in the ladies coach because on >> every >> station, to the new comers I cannot explain why I'm in the ladies coach, >> so, >> better to be careful! Most of the ladies particularly with less education >> and old ladies are very pertinent about why boys/men travel in their > coach, >> some of them even go to the extend of launching a formal complaint in a >> secret manner over the metro helpline without enquiring about the actual >> issue! >> - Original Message - >> From: "harish" >> To: ; "AccessIndia: a list for disc
Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station
Incedently Sweety was with someone from her office and had assistance! Can you imagine what could have happened if she was alone? Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ajay Minocha Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 12:53 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Hi friends, Though I love traveling alone, while traveling during tipical office hours, I frankly ask for assistance. I know that I can manage alone as well but most of the times, people don't let you go even when you are walking with a big white cane in your hand. And I don't want to be unnecessarily waiting around or crushed just because I can't see! I totally agree with Vikas sir. I never get into the ladies coach even when the guards insure me of no complaints. I simpally say "it feels that I have been sent in some alion world" The guys have a loud laugh most of the times and don't argue with me anymore! Regards, Ajay On 3/2/14, P. Subramani wrote: > Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro stationwhy not a > coach for the disabled, as we supposedly have in normal trains? > - Original Message - > From: rajpal > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled.' > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 1:02 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > > Very true! > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Vikas Kapoor > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 11:14 AM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > I don't second this opinion that blind people should be encouraged to > travel > in the ladies coach because you know quite often some of the people with > vision impairment are not easily noticed that they are blind and once some > of the ladies see men around them in the ladies coach they pass a very > dirty > comments over them, although once they get to know about that, they indeed > regret! I personally never intend to be in the ladies coach because on > every > station, to the new comers I cannot explain why I'm in the ladies coach, > so, > better to be careful! Most of the ladies particularly with less education > and old ladies are very pertinent about why boys/men travel in their coach, > some of them even go to the extend of launching a formal complaint in a > secret manner over the metro helpline without enquiring about the actual > issue! > - Original Message - > From: "harish" > To: ; "AccessIndia: a list for discussing > accessibility and issuesconcerningthe disabled." > > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > > Hi > During the AI convention, we used the Delhi metro. The warning regarding > the > announcement to be careful about the gap was done in all stations. On some > station it was more emphasised. Probably the gap there was more alarming > perhaps. > > The Delhi metro indeed has tactile tiles on the platforms. > > What we had seen, The metro staffers encourage the blind persons to board > the ladies coach next to the driver coach. Perhaps, it would be more > prudent > to do so. > > Harish Kotian > > - Original Message - > From: "Geetha Shamanna" > To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and > issuesconcerningthe disabled.'" > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 7:50 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > >> This is a problem in metros all over the world. There have been several >> instances of blind people falling into the gap between the train and the >> platform in London, some coming out with severe injuries. Some years ago, >>
Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station
Hi friends, Though I love traveling alone, while traveling during tipical office hours, I frankly ask for assistance. I know that I can manage alone as well but most of the times, people don't let you go even when you are walking with a big white cane in your hand. And I don't want to be unnecessarily waiting around or crushed just because I can't see! I totally agree with Vikas sir. I never get into the ladies coach even when the guards insure me of no complaints. I simpally say "it feels that I have been sent in some alion world" The guys have a loud laugh most of the times and don't argue with me anymore! Regards, Ajay On 3/2/14, P. Subramani wrote: > Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro stationwhy not a > coach for the disabled, as we supposedly have in normal trains? > - Original Message - > From: rajpal > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled.' > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 1:02 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > > Very true! > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Vikas Kapoor > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 11:14 AM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > I don't second this opinion that blind people should be encouraged to > travel > in the ladies coach because you know quite often some of the people with > vision impairment are not easily noticed that they are blind and once some > of the ladies see men around them in the ladies coach they pass a very > dirty > comments over them, although once they get to know about that, they indeed > regret! I personally never intend to be in the ladies coach because on > every > station, to the new comers I cannot explain why I'm in the ladies coach, > so, > better to be careful! Most of the ladies particularly with less education > and old ladies are very pertinent about why boys/men travel in their coach, > some of them even go to the extend of launching a formal complaint in a > secret manner over the metro helpline without enquiring about the actual > issue! > - Original Message - > From: "harish" > To: ; "AccessIndia: a list for discussing > accessibility and issuesconcerningthe disabled." > > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > > Hi > During the AI convention, we used the Delhi metro. The warning regarding > the > announcement to be careful about the gap was done in all stations. On some > station it was more emphasised. Probably the gap there was more alarming > perhaps. > > The Delhi metro indeed has tactile tiles on the platforms. > > What we had seen, The metro staffers encourage the blind persons to board > the ladies coach next to the driver coach. Perhaps, it would be more > prudent > to do so. > > Harish Kotian > > - Original Message - > From: "Geetha Shamanna" > To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and > issuesconcerningthe disabled.'" > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 7:50 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > >> This is a problem in metros all over the world. There have been several >> instances of blind people falling into the gap between the train and the >> platform in London, some coming out with severe injuries. Some years ago, >> a >> blind person with a guide dog in London fell on to the tracks, ignoring >> his >> guide dog's attempts to push him away. The metro system in London's >> stations >> announces frequent warnings to passengers to mind the gap between the >> train >> and the platform, as also the system in Delhi it appears. Besides, the >> voice >> announcement systems in trains have this announcement as well. >> >> As blind persons travelling independently on the metro, it is perhaps >> unfair >> to blame the metros for the gaps. As we are aware of these gaps, it is >> our >> responsibility to use the cane and negotiate these gaps. The gaps between >> the train and the platform vary in London as well. During my initial days >> in >> London, In response to my question about uneven gaps between the train >> and >> the platform, an underground staff member informed me that these gaps are >> inevitable due to curves in some stations. These gaps are apparently not >> a
Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station
Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro stationwhy not a coach for the disabled, as we supposedly have in normal trains? - Original Message - From: rajpal To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled.' Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Very true! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 11:14 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station I don't second this opinion that blind people should be encouraged to travel in the ladies coach because you know quite often some of the people with vision impairment are not easily noticed that they are blind and once some of the ladies see men around them in the ladies coach they pass a very dirty comments over them, although once they get to know about that, they indeed regret! I personally never intend to be in the ladies coach because on every station, to the new comers I cannot explain why I'm in the ladies coach, so, better to be careful! Most of the ladies particularly with less education and old ladies are very pertinent about why boys/men travel in their coach, some of them even go to the extend of launching a formal complaint in a secret manner over the metro helpline without enquiring about the actual issue! - Original Message - From: "harish" To: ; "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthe disabled." Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Hi During the AI convention, we used the Delhi metro. The warning regarding the announcement to be careful about the gap was done in all stations. On some station it was more emphasised. Probably the gap there was more alarming perhaps. The Delhi metro indeed has tactile tiles on the platforms. What we had seen, The metro staffers encourage the blind persons to board the ladies coach next to the driver coach. Perhaps, it would be more prudent to do so. Harish Kotian - Original Message - From: "Geetha Shamanna" To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthe disabled.'" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > This is a problem in metros all over the world. There have been several > instances of blind people falling into the gap between the train and the > platform in London, some coming out with severe injuries. Some years ago, > a > blind person with a guide dog in London fell on to the tracks, ignoring > his > guide dog's attempts to push him away. The metro system in London's > stations > announces frequent warnings to passengers to mind the gap between the > train > and the platform, as also the system in Delhi it appears. Besides, the > voice > announcement systems in trains have this announcement as well. > > As blind persons travelling independently on the metro, it is perhaps > unfair > to blame the metros for the gaps. As we are aware of these gaps, it is our > responsibility to use the cane and negotiate these gaps. The gaps between > the train and the platform vary in London as well. During my initial days > in > London, In response to my question about uneven gaps between the train and > the platform, an underground staff member informed me that these gaps are > inevitable due to curves in some stations. These gaps are apparently not a > result of faulty planning, but essential in some stations due to their > layout in order to protect trains. > >Geetha > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf > Of Vikas Kapoor > Sent: 01 March 2014 12:02 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > thedisabled. > Subject: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > Sowmiya Ashok > > The gap between the platform and a Delhi Metro train got the better of a > visually impaired commuter on Thursday evening as she was about to board > the > train at the Nehru Place metro station. Sweety Bhalla, a government > employee, who was entering the train found her legs collapsing into the > gap > - which was not exceptionally large. But for two male co-passengers, who > hurriedly pulled her up, she could have suffered grievous injuries. The > incident happened around 5-20 p.m. > > "I put a leg forward t
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Hello Access Indians, I sympathize deply to hear sad news. Let me put some comment regarding "savety guard system" on the platform is going on in Japan now which will be better a ction in India too. I am long staying in India now and I came from Tokyo, Japan. Railway transport ation system is the most common in big sities in Japan, and we have been heard similar sad news every year. In a recent a few decades, tactile tile system have been widely installed in m ajor railway platforms. It is definetely better than nothing though, still sot ime blind persons fell down or touch with approaching train and died or sivier ly injured. Besides the blind persons, certain amount numbers of ordinary sighted persons kill themselves by jumping in front of a train Sometimes accidentally fell dow n by faint or walking drunken. This is a new system called "safety guard platform", or nickname is "platform- door is popularizing, and many busy railway stations are going on the installm ent, like everywhere in Tokyo. Railway platform is like a bridge without any guard fence in the side, and thi s sfafety guard has fence with sliding doors. The doors are open only train st op and its door open. Of course it is going on automatically. The most popular major railway lines have 11 coaches-linked and in the rush ho urs, every 2-3 minutes interval coming in the station platforms. This is a very good news for the blind and everybody in Japan. Some newly built and completely renovated metro lines have this safety guard s ystem in all staions, and the train operated by one-man which means having no conductor. Notes: The labor cost is high in Japan, then railway company try to reduce the man po wer. The minimum price of the ticket is About 75 rupeews. If you want know more, please contact me. Saburo Sasada International Trainer of Japanese Medical Manual Therapy Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station
Very true! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 11:14 AM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station I don't second this opinion that blind people should be encouraged to travel in the ladies coach because you know quite often some of the people with vision impairment are not easily noticed that they are blind and once some of the ladies see men around them in the ladies coach they pass a very dirty comments over them, although once they get to know about that, they indeed regret! I personally never intend to be in the ladies coach because on every station, to the new comers I cannot explain why I'm in the ladies coach, so, better to be careful! Most of the ladies particularly with less education and old ladies are very pertinent about why boys/men travel in their coach, some of them even go to the extend of launching a formal complaint in a secret manner over the metro helpline without enquiring about the actual issue! - Original Message - From: "harish" To: ; "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthe disabled." Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Hi During the AI convention, we used the Delhi metro. The warning regarding the announcement to be careful about the gap was done in all stations. On some station it was more emphasised. Probably the gap there was more alarming perhaps. The Delhi metro indeed has tactile tiles on the platforms. What we had seen, The metro staffers encourage the blind persons to board the ladies coach next to the driver coach. Perhaps, it would be more prudent to do so. Harish Kotian - Original Message - From: "Geetha Shamanna" To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthe disabled.'" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > This is a problem in metros all over the world. There have been several > instances of blind people falling into the gap between the train and the > platform in London, some coming out with severe injuries. Some years ago, > a > blind person with a guide dog in London fell on to the tracks, ignoring > his > guide dog's attempts to push him away. The metro system in London's > stations > announces frequent warnings to passengers to mind the gap between the > train > and the platform, as also the system in Delhi it appears. Besides, the > voice > announcement systems in trains have this announcement as well. > > As blind persons travelling independently on the metro, it is perhaps > unfair > to blame the metros for the gaps. As we are aware of these gaps, it is our > responsibility to use the cane and negotiate these gaps. The gaps between > the train and the platform vary in London as well. During my initial days > in > London, In response to my question about uneven gaps between the train and > the platform, an underground staff member informed me that these gaps are > inevitable due to curves in some stations. These gaps are apparently not a > result of faulty planning, but essential in some stations due to their > layout in order to protect trains. > >Geetha > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf > Of Vikas Kapoor > Sent: 01 March 2014 12:02 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > thedisabled. > Subject: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > Sowmiya Ashok > > The gap between the platform and a Delhi Metro train got the better of a > visually impaired commuter on Thursday evening as she was about to board > the > train at the Nehru Place metro station. Sweety Bhalla, a government > employee, who was entering the train found her legs collapsing into the > gap > - which was not exceptionally large. But for two male co-passengers, who > hurriedly pulled her up, she could have suffered grievous injuries. The > incident happened around 5-20 p.m. > > "I put a leg forward thinking I will step on the train but my left leg > went > in completely into the gap between the platform and the train. It was so > unexpected, I couldn't understand and when I was pulled up I felt bruises > on > my right ankle, knee and elbow," she said. Fortunately for Ms. Bhalla, her > co-passengers helped her up before the train's doors shut on her. > > A resi
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There's no tacktile indicators in all the suburban stations. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 11:49 AM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.'; geethas2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station The problem arises when during office hours, it is so crowded and people push around crazily that is becomes a very big problem. And there no tacktile indicators indicating the edge of the platforms and the flor is too slippery. With the rush, it becomes very difficult to even use your white cane. People simply dont notice. Lack of sencitivity and we need more awareness Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of harish Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 10:10 AM To: geethas2...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Hi During the AI convention, we used the Delhi metro. The warning regarding the announcement to be careful about the gap was done in all stations. On some station it was more emphasised. Probably the gap there was more alarming perhaps. The Delhi metro indeed has tactile tiles on the platforms. What we had seen, The metro staffers encourage the blind persons to board the ladies coach next to the driver coach. Perhaps, it would be more prudent to do so. Harish Kotian - Original Message - From: "Geetha Shamanna" To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthe disabled.'" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > This is a problem in metros all over the world. There have been > several instances of blind people falling into the gap between the > train and the platform in London, some coming out with severe > injuries. Some years ago, a blind person with a guide dog in London > fell on to the tracks, ignoring his guide dog's attempts to push him > away. The metro system in London's stations announces frequent > warnings to passengers to mind the gap between the train and the > platform, as also the system in Delhi it appears. Besides, the voice > announcement systems in trains have this announcement as well. > > As blind persons travelling independently on the metro, it is perhaps > unfair to blame the metros for the gaps. As we are aware of these > gaps, it is our responsibility to use the cane and negotiate these > gaps. The gaps between the train and the platform vary in London as > well. During my initial days in London, In response to my question > about uneven gaps between the train and the platform, an underground > staff member informed me that these gaps are inevitable due to curves > in some stations. These gaps are apparently not a result of faulty > planning, but essential in some stations due to their layout in order > to protect trains. > >Geetha > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor > Sent: 01 March 2014 12:02 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and > issuesconcerning thedisabled. > Subject: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > Sowmiya Ashok > > The gap between the platform and a Delhi Metro train got the better of > a visually impaired commuter on Thursday evening as she was about to > board the train at the Nehru Place metro station. Sweety Bhalla, a > government employee, who was entering the train found her legs > collapsing into the gap > - which was not exceptionally large. But for two male co-passengers, > who hurriedly pulled her up, she could have suffered grievous > injuries. The incident happened around 5-20 p.m. > > "I put a leg forward thinking I will step on the train but my left leg > went in completely into the ga
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The problem arises when during office hours, it is so crowded and people push around crazily that is becomes a very big problem. And there no tacktile indicators indicating the edge of the platforms and the flor is too slippery. With the rush, it becomes very difficult to even use your white cane. People simply dont notice. Lack of sencitivity and we need more awareness Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of harish Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 10:10 AM To: geethas2...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Hi During the AI convention, we used the Delhi metro. The warning regarding the announcement to be careful about the gap was done in all stations. On some station it was more emphasised. Probably the gap there was more alarming perhaps. The Delhi metro indeed has tactile tiles on the platforms. What we had seen, The metro staffers encourage the blind persons to board the ladies coach next to the driver coach. Perhaps, it would be more prudent to do so. Harish Kotian - Original Message - From: "Geetha Shamanna" To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthe disabled.'" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > This is a problem in metros all over the world. There have been several > instances of blind people falling into the gap between the train and the > platform in London, some coming out with severe injuries. Some years ago, > a > blind person with a guide dog in London fell on to the tracks, ignoring > his > guide dog's attempts to push him away. The metro system in London's > stations > announces frequent warnings to passengers to mind the gap between the > train > and the platform, as also the system in Delhi it appears. Besides, the > voice > announcement systems in trains have this announcement as well. > > As blind persons travelling independently on the metro, it is perhaps > unfair > to blame the metros for the gaps. As we are aware of these gaps, it is our > responsibility to use the cane and negotiate these gaps. The gaps between > the train and the platform vary in London as well. During my initial days > in > London, In response to my question about uneven gaps between the train and > the platform, an underground staff member informed me that these gaps are > inevitable due to curves in some stations. These gaps are apparently not a > result of faulty planning, but essential in some stations due to their > layout in order to protect trains. > >Geetha > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf > Of Vikas Kapoor > Sent: 01 March 2014 12:02 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > thedisabled. > Subject: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > Sowmiya Ashok > > The gap between the platform and a Delhi Metro train got the better of a > visually impaired commuter on Thursday evening as she was about to board > the > train at the Nehru Place metro station. Sweety Bhalla, a government > employee, who was entering the train found her legs collapsing into the > gap > - which was not exceptionally large. But for two male co-passengers, who > hurriedly pulled her up, she could have suffered grievous injuries. The > incident happened around 5-20 p.m. > > "I put a leg forward thinking I will step on the train but my left leg > went > in completely into the gap between the platform and the train. It was so > unexpected, I couldn't understand and when I was pulled up I felt bruises > on > my right ankle, knee and elbow," she said. Fortunately for Ms. Bhalla, her > co-passengers helped her up before the train's doors shut on her. > > A resident of Karol Bagh, Ms. Bhalla travels from Jhandewalan to Nehru > Place >
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Thank you all for shareing your experiences. This will encourage Sweety. I have very bad mobility and so cant get around anywhere unassisted. No courage on my end. But I know there are situations where one just have to go. I salute all my visually impaired friends who have the huge courage to go on their own. Just always pray for your safety all the time. Take care all of you. Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of vishal M Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 11:43 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station The same incident happened with me at akshardham metro station. It was really scary, though I acted fast and pulled my leg out in time. It was just like a flash, I got hurt on the leg but after the incident what was most frightening was to imagine that what would had happened if I could not had been able to get my leg out on time and the train had moved. I also have retinitis pigmentosa and I travel by metro regularly. After the incident I thought of things I could have done better in this case. Sharing it here so that it can help anyone who might unluckily get into such situation, because at that time the mind just go blank I realised that I should had first asked the people on the metro to block the door or myself had done it by putting bag I was carrying, on the door way. As the train does not move till all its doors gets closed. This would had made me safe even if I would had not been able to take my leg out in time. Dear Peerti Ma'am, I know what a heavy blow it is to the confidence to travel independently but we have to deal with it, be strong and a bit more cautious in future. I wish Ms. Sweety Bhalla recover soon of this incident. Thanks, Vishal On Mar 1, 2014 10:36 PM, "Preeti Monga" wrote: > Very sad I spoke with Sweety a short while back and she is very hurt and > very shaken. She is almost losing her confidence of travelling > independently around! In case that happens, what will become of her? How > does she remain a contributing member of the society? And who then is going > to look after her and her little daughter? > > The gap is enormous where she fell and there are no raised borders to > indicate the end of the platform to indicate to blind passengers that there > is the danger of falling into the rails? > > In fact not only children, but this could have happened to anyone! In the > kind of rush at office hours in the Metros, even people who can see cant > actually make out where they are placing their feet! > > I think instead of playing the blame game, the authorities might as well > do > something about this kind of situation. It maybe one of these days, the > next > person to slip down that gap is a dear one of the people who are today > responsible to be able to bring about these small improvements for blind > commuters, and of whom there are many! > Warmly > Preeti > > Preeti Monga > Director > > > > Mobile: +91 9871701646 > Landline: 011 22781446 > E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in > Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org > Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training > -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate > ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying > workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and > Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. > > We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete > customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. > > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf > Of Vikas Kapoor > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 5:32 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > the disabled. > Subject: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > Sowmiya Ashok > > The gap between the platform and a De
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I don't second this opinion that blind people should be encouraged to travel in the ladies coach because you know quite often some of the people with vision impairment are not easily noticed that they are blind and once some of the ladies see men around them in the ladies coach they pass a very dirty comments over them, although once they get to know about that, they indeed regret! I personally never intend to be in the ladies coach because on every station, to the new comers I cannot explain why I'm in the ladies coach, so, better to be careful! Most of the ladies particularly with less education and old ladies are very pertinent about why boys/men travel in their coach, some of them even go to the extend of launching a formal complaint in a secret manner over the metro helpline without enquiring about the actual issue! - Original Message - From: "harish" To: ; "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthe disabled." Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Hi During the AI convention, we used the Delhi metro. The warning regarding the announcement to be careful about the gap was done in all stations. On some station it was more emphasised. Probably the gap there was more alarming perhaps. The Delhi metro indeed has tactile tiles on the platforms. What we had seen, The metro staffers encourage the blind persons to board the ladies coach next to the driver coach. Perhaps, it would be more prudent to do so. Harish Kotian - Original Message - From: "Geetha Shamanna" To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthe disabled.'" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > This is a problem in metros all over the world. There have been several > instances of blind people falling into the gap between the train and the > platform in London, some coming out with severe injuries. Some years ago, > a > blind person with a guide dog in London fell on to the tracks, ignoring > his > guide dog's attempts to push him away. The metro system in London's > stations > announces frequent warnings to passengers to mind the gap between the > train > and the platform, as also the system in Delhi it appears. Besides, the > voice > announcement systems in trains have this announcement as well. > > As blind persons travelling independently on the metro, it is perhaps > unfair > to blame the metros for the gaps. As we are aware of these gaps, it is our > responsibility to use the cane and negotiate these gaps. The gaps between > the train and the platform vary in London as well. During my initial days > in > London, In response to my question about uneven gaps between the train and > the platform, an underground staff member informed me that these gaps are > inevitable due to curves in some stations. These gaps are apparently not a > result of faulty planning, but essential in some stations due to their > layout in order to protect trains. > >Geetha > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf > Of Vikas Kapoor > Sent: 01 March 2014 12:02 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > thedisabled. > Subject: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > Sowmiya Ashok > > The gap between the platform and a Delhi Metro train got the better of a > visually impaired commuter on Thursday evening as she was about to board > the > train at the Nehru Place metro station. Sweety Bhalla, a government > employee, who was entering the train found her legs collapsing into the > gap > - which was not exceptionally large. But for two male co-passengers, who > hurriedly pulled her up, she could have suffered grievous injuries. The > incident happened around 5-20 p.m. > > "I put a leg forward thinking I will step on the train but my left leg > went > in completely into the gap between the platform and the train. It was so > unexpected, I couldn't understand and when I was pulled up I felt bruises > on > my right ankle, knee and elbow," she said. Fortunately for Ms. Bhalla, her > co-passengers helped her up before the train's doors shut on her. > > A resident of Karol Bagh, Ms. Bhalla travels from Jhandewalan to Nehru > Place > and back on a daily basis. "The gaps at all stations should be uniform so > that no untoward incident happens. This is especially dangerous for young > children who can fall into the gap while boarding or de-boarding the train >
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Hi During the AI convention, we used the Delhi metro. The warning regarding the announcement to be careful about the gap was done in all stations. On some station it was more emphasised. Probably the gap there was more alarming perhaps. The Delhi metro indeed has tactile tiles on the platforms. What we had seen, The metro staffers encourage the blind persons to board the ladies coach next to the driver coach. Perhaps, it would be more prudent to do so. Harish Kotian - Original Message - From: "Geetha Shamanna" To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthe disabled.'" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station This is a problem in metros all over the world. There have been several instances of blind people falling into the gap between the train and the platform in London, some coming out with severe injuries. Some years ago, a blind person with a guide dog in London fell on to the tracks, ignoring his guide dog's attempts to push him away. The metro system in London's stations announces frequent warnings to passengers to mind the gap between the train and the platform, as also the system in Delhi it appears. Besides, the voice announcement systems in trains have this announcement as well. As blind persons travelling independently on the metro, it is perhaps unfair to blame the metros for the gaps. As we are aware of these gaps, it is our responsibility to use the cane and negotiate these gaps. The gaps between the train and the platform vary in London as well. During my initial days in London, In response to my question about uneven gaps between the train and the platform, an underground staff member informed me that these gaps are inevitable due to curves in some stations. These gaps are apparently not a result of faulty planning, but essential in some stations due to their layout in order to protect trains. Geetha -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: 01 March 2014 12:02 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Sowmiya Ashok The gap between the platform and a Delhi Metro train got the better of a visually impaired commuter on Thursday evening as she was about to board the train at the Nehru Place metro station. Sweety Bhalla, a government employee, who was entering the train found her legs collapsing into the gap - which was not exceptionally large. But for two male co-passengers, who hurriedly pulled her up, she could have suffered grievous injuries. The incident happened around 5-20 p.m. "I put a leg forward thinking I will step on the train but my left leg went in completely into the gap between the platform and the train. It was so unexpected, I couldn't understand and when I was pulled up I felt bruises on my right ankle, knee and elbow," she said. Fortunately for Ms. Bhalla, her co-passengers helped her up before the train's doors shut on her. A resident of Karol Bagh, Ms. Bhalla travels from Jhandewalan to Nehru Place and back on a daily basis. "The gaps at all stations should be uniform so that no untoward incident happens. This is especially dangerous for young children who can fall into the gap while boarding or de-boarding the train at rush hours," she said. "The problem is that in some places the gap is smaller and at others it's larger. There should be some uniformity," she added. Ms. Bhalla said similar incidents have happened twice before at Rajiv Chowk and Udyog Bhavan stations. "There is a lot of rush especially at stations such as Rajiv Chowk. The Metro should have segregated entry and exit points into trains so it helps manage the crowds in an orderly manner." Ms. Bhalla, who suffers from retinitis pigmentosa, which has rendered her blind since birth, was part of a committee that did an external audit on the first line of the Delhi Metro that connected Welcome and Kashmere Gate. "I was part of a 'disability committee' that provided inputs to the Delhi Metro on how to make stations friendly for Persons with Disability. We had then reviewed three stations," she said. Following Thursday's incident, she rang the helpline number of the Delhi Metro and was told that she will be contacted after the footage from the station is reviewed. A Delhi Metro spokesperson said that at the point of frisking, Ms. Bhalla was asked by CISF staff if she needed assistance to reach the train but she declined because her colleague had accompanied her to the station. "We do make regular announcements asking passengers to mind the gap between the p
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Really very sad, metro should be more blind friendly so that these insidence should not recur in the future. The girl should not abandon the hope. I know 2 totally blinds namely, Mr. Sanjay Jha and Mr. Raju Maurya, who fell between the gap of two coaches in different insidence and entire train surpassed over them but still they're using metro with taking more care. -- From: "Preeti Monga" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 7:06 PM To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerningthedisabled.'" Subject: Re: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Very sad I spoke with Sweety a short while back and she is very hurt and very shaken. She is almost losing her confidence of travelling independently around! In case that happens, what will become of her? How does she remain a contributing member of the society? And who then is going to look after her and her little daughter? The gap is enormous where she fell and there are no raised borders to indicate the end of the platform to indicate to blind passengers that there is the danger of falling into the rails? In fact not only children, but this could have happened to anyone! In the kind of rush at office hours in the Metros, even people who can see cant actually make out where they are placing their feet! I think instead of playing the blame game, the authorities might as well do something about this kind of situation. It maybe one of these days, the next person to slip down that gap is a dear one of the people who are today responsible to be able to bring about these small improvements for blind commuters, and of whom there are many! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 5:32 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Sowmiya Ashok The gap between the platform and a Delhi Metro train got the better of a visually impaired commuter on Thursday evening as she was about to board the train at the Nehru Place metro station. Sweety Bhalla, a government employee, who was entering the train found her legs collapsing into the gap - which was not exceptionally large. But for two male co-passengers, who hurriedly pulled her up, she could have suffered grievous injuries. The incident happened around 5-20 p.m. "I put a leg forward thinking I will step on the train but my left leg went in completely into the gap between the platform and the train. It was so unexpected, I couldn't understand and when I was pulled up I felt bruises on my right ankle, knee and elbow," she said. Fortunately for Ms. Bhalla, her co-passengers helped her up before the train's doors shut on her. A resident of Karol Bagh, Ms. Bhalla travels from Jhandewalan to Nehru Place and back on a daily basis. "The gaps at all stations should be uniform so that no untoward incident happens. This is especially dangerous for young children who can fall into the gap while boarding or de-boarding the train at rush hours," she said. "The problem is that in some places the gap is smaller and at others it's larger. There should be some uniformity," she added. Ms. Bhalla said similar incidents have happened twice before at Rajiv Chowk and Udyog Bhavan stations. "There is a lot of rush especially at stations such as Rajiv Chowk. The Metro should have segregated entry and exit points into trains so it helps manage the crowds in an orderly manner." Ms. Bhalla, who suffers from retinitis pigmentosa, which has rendered her blind since birth, was part of a committee that did an external audit on the first line of the Delhi Metro that connected Welcome and Kashmere Gate. "I was part of a 'disability committee' that provided inputs to the Delhi Metro on how to make stations friendly for Persons with Disability. We had then reviewed three stations," she said. Following Thursday's incident, she rang the helpline number of the Delhi Metro and was told that
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As Geetha says, gaps between trains and platforms are unavoidable in some stations. However having some sort of tactile indication at the end of the platform in the form of blister tiles or something similar will help a lot. Kiran Sent from my iPhone On 1 Mar 2014, at 23:43, vishal M wrote: The same incident happened with me at akshardham metro station. It was really scary, though I acted fast and pulled my leg out in time. It was just like a flash, I got hurt on the leg but after the incident what was most frightening was to imagine that what would had happened if I could not had been able to get my leg out on time and the train had moved. I also have retinitis pigmentosa and I travel by metro regularly. After the incident I thought of things I could have done better in this case. Sharing it here so that it can help anyone who might unluckily get into such situation, because at that time the mind just go blank I realised that I should had first asked the people on the metro to block the door or myself had done it by putting bag I was carrying, on the door way. As the train does not move till all its doors gets closed. This would had made me safe even if I would had not been able to take my leg out in time. Dear Peerti Ma'am, I know what a heavy blow it is to the confidence to travel independently but we have to deal with it, be strong and a bit more cautious in future. I wish Ms. Sweety Bhalla recover soon of this incident. Thanks, Vishal On Mar 1, 2014 10:36 PM, "Preeti Monga" wrote: > Very sad I spoke with Sweety a short while back and she is very hurt and > very shaken. She is almost losing her confidence of travelling > independently around! In case that happens, what will become of her? How > does she remain a contributing member of the society? And who then is going > to look after her and her little daughter? > > The gap is enormous where she fell and there are no raised borders to > indicate the end of the platform to indicate to blind passengers that there > is the danger of falling into the rails? > > In fact not only children, but this could have happened to anyone! In the > kind of rush at office hours in the Metros, even people who can see cant > actually make out where they are placing their feet! > > I think instead of playing the blame game, the authorities might as well > do > something about this kind of situation. It maybe one of these days, the > next > person to slip down that gap is a dear one of the people who are today > responsible to be able to bring about these small improvements for blind > commuters, and of whom there are many! > Warmly > Preeti > > Preeti Monga > Director > > > > Mobile: +91 9871701646 > Landline: 011 22781446 > E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in > Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org > Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training > -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate > ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying > workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and > Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. > > We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete > customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. > > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf > Of Vikas Kapoor > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 5:32 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > the disabled. > Subject: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > Sowmiya Ashok > > The gap between the platform and a Delhi Metro train got the better of a > visually impaired commuter on Thursday evening as she was about to board > the > train at the Nehru Place metro station. Sweety Bhalla, a government > employee, who was entering the train found her legs collapsing into the gap > - which was not exceptionally large. But for two male co-passengers, who > hurriedly pulled her up, she could have suffered grievous injuries. The > incident happened around 5-20 p.m. > > "I put a leg forward thinking I will step on the train but my left leg went > in completely into the gap between the platform and the train. It was so > unexpected, I couldn't understand and when I was pulled up I felt bruises > on > my right ankle, knee and elbow," she said. Fortunately for Ms. Bhalla, her > co-passengers helped her up before the train's doors shut on her. > > A resident of Karol Bagh, Ms. Bhalla travels from Jhandewalan to Nehru > Place > and back on a daily basis. "The gaps
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The same incident happened with me at akshardham metro station. It was really scary, though I acted fast and pulled my leg out in time. It was just like a flash, I got hurt on the leg but after the incident what was most frightening was to imagine that what would had happened if I could not had been able to get my leg out on time and the train had moved. I also have retinitis pigmentosa and I travel by metro regularly. After the incident I thought of things I could have done better in this case. Sharing it here so that it can help anyone who might unluckily get into such situation, because at that time the mind just go blank I realised that I should had first asked the people on the metro to block the door or myself had done it by putting bag I was carrying, on the door way. As the train does not move till all its doors gets closed. This would had made me safe even if I would had not been able to take my leg out in time. Dear Peerti Ma'am, I know what a heavy blow it is to the confidence to travel independently but we have to deal with it, be strong and a bit more cautious in future. I wish Ms. Sweety Bhalla recover soon of this incident. Thanks, Vishal On Mar 1, 2014 10:36 PM, "Preeti Monga" wrote: > Very sad I spoke with Sweety a short while back and she is very hurt and > very shaken. She is almost losing her confidence of travelling > independently around! In case that happens, what will become of her? How > does she remain a contributing member of the society? And who then is going > to look after her and her little daughter? > > The gap is enormous where she fell and there are no raised borders to > indicate the end of the platform to indicate to blind passengers that there > is the danger of falling into the rails? > > In fact not only children, but this could have happened to anyone! In the > kind of rush at office hours in the Metros, even people who can see cant > actually make out where they are placing their feet! > > I think instead of playing the blame game, the authorities might as well > do > something about this kind of situation. It maybe one of these days, the > next > person to slip down that gap is a dear one of the people who are today > responsible to be able to bring about these small improvements for blind > commuters, and of whom there are many! > Warmly > Preeti > > Preeti Monga > Director > > > > Mobile: +91 9871701646 > Landline: 011 22781446 > E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in > Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org > Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training > -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate > ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying > workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and > Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. > > We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete > customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. > > > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf > Of Vikas Kapoor > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 5:32 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > the disabled. > Subject: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > > Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station > Sowmiya Ashok > > The gap between the platform and a Delhi Metro train got the better of a > visually impaired commuter on Thursday evening as she was about to board > the > train at the Nehru Place metro station. Sweety Bhalla, a government > employee, who was entering the train found her legs collapsing into the gap > - which was not exceptionally large. But for two male co-passengers, who > hurriedly pulled her up, she could have suffered grievous injuries. The > incident happened around 5-20 p.m. > > "I put a leg forward thinking I will step on the train but my left leg went > in completely into the gap between the platform and the train. It was so > unexpected, I couldn't understand and when I was pulled up I felt bruises > on > my right ankle, knee and elbow," she said. Fortunately for Ms. Bhalla, her > co-passengers helped her up before the train's doors shut on her. > > A resident of Karol Bagh, Ms. Bhalla travels from Jhandewalan to Nehru > Place > and back on a daily basis. "The gaps at all stations should be uniform so > that no untoward incident happens. This is especially dangerous for young > children who can fall into the gap while boarding or de-boarding the train > at rush hours," she said. "The problem is that in some places the gap is > smaller and at others it
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This is a problem in metros all over the world. There have been several instances of blind people falling into the gap between the train and the platform in London, some coming out with severe injuries. Some years ago, a blind person with a guide dog in London fell on to the tracks, ignoring his guide dog's attempts to push him away. The metro system in London's stations announces frequent warnings to passengers to mind the gap between the train and the platform, as also the system in Delhi it appears. Besides, the voice announcement systems in trains have this announcement as well. As blind persons travelling independently on the metro, it is perhaps unfair to blame the metros for the gaps. As we are aware of these gaps, it is our responsibility to use the cane and negotiate these gaps. The gaps between the train and the platform vary in London as well. During my initial days in London, In response to my question about uneven gaps between the train and the platform, an underground staff member informed me that these gaps are inevitable due to curves in some stations. These gaps are apparently not a result of faulty planning, but essential in some stations due to their layout in order to protect trains. Geetha -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: 01 March 2014 12:02 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled. Subject: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Sowmiya Ashok The gap between the platform and a Delhi Metro train got the better of a visually impaired commuter on Thursday evening as she was about to board the train at the Nehru Place metro station. Sweety Bhalla, a government employee, who was entering the train found her legs collapsing into the gap - which was not exceptionally large. But for two male co-passengers, who hurriedly pulled her up, she could have suffered grievous injuries. The incident happened around 5-20 p.m. "I put a leg forward thinking I will step on the train but my left leg went in completely into the gap between the platform and the train. It was so unexpected, I couldn't understand and when I was pulled up I felt bruises on my right ankle, knee and elbow," she said. Fortunately for Ms. Bhalla, her co-passengers helped her up before the train's doors shut on her. A resident of Karol Bagh, Ms. Bhalla travels from Jhandewalan to Nehru Place and back on a daily basis. "The gaps at all stations should be uniform so that no untoward incident happens. This is especially dangerous for young children who can fall into the gap while boarding or de-boarding the train at rush hours," she said. "The problem is that in some places the gap is smaller and at others it's larger. There should be some uniformity," she added. Ms. Bhalla said similar incidents have happened twice before at Rajiv Chowk and Udyog Bhavan stations. "There is a lot of rush especially at stations such as Rajiv Chowk. The Metro should have segregated entry and exit points into trains so it helps manage the crowds in an orderly manner." Ms. Bhalla, who suffers from retinitis pigmentosa, which has rendered her blind since birth, was part of a committee that did an external audit on the first line of the Delhi Metro that connected Welcome and Kashmere Gate. "I was part of a 'disability committee' that provided inputs to the Delhi Metro on how to make stations friendly for Persons with Disability. We had then reviewed three stations," she said. Following Thursday's incident, she rang the helpline number of the Delhi Metro and was told that she will be contacted after the footage from the station is reviewed. A Delhi Metro spokesperson said that at the point of frisking, Ms. Bhalla was asked by CISF staff if she needed assistance to reach the train but she declined because her colleague had accompanied her to the station. "We do make regular announcements asking passengers to mind the gap between the platform and the train. The passenger had called the helpline number but it takes some time to review the footage," said the spokesperson. However, Ms. Bhalla denies Delhi Metro's version that she was asked if she needed assistance. http://www.dailypioneer.com/city Vikas Kapoor, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137 Skype Id: dl_vikas Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, ple
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It is scary. Thank God Sweety is safe. Delhi Metro must take note of this. They take pride in their accessibility effort/commitment. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: 01 March 2014 17:32 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Sowmiya Ashok The gap between the platform and a Delhi Metro train got the better of a visually impaired commuter on Thursday evening as she was about to board the train at the Nehru Place metro station. Sweety Bhalla, a government employee, who was entering the train found her legs collapsing into the gap - which was not exceptionally large. But for two male co-passengers, who hurriedly pulled her up, she could have suffered grievous injuries. The incident happened around 5-20 p.m. "I put a leg forward thinking I will step on the train but my left leg went in completely into the gap between the platform and the train. It was so unexpected, I couldn't understand and when I was pulled up I felt bruises on my right ankle, knee and elbow," she said. Fortunately for Ms. Bhalla, her co-passengers helped her up before the train's doors shut on her. A resident of Karol Bagh, Ms. Bhalla travels from Jhandewalan to Nehru Place and back on a daily basis. "The gaps at all stations should be uniform so that no untoward incident happens. This is especially dangerous for young children who can fall into the gap while boarding or de-boarding the train at rush hours," she said. "The problem is that in some places the gap is smaller and at others it's larger. There should be some uniformity," she added. Ms. Bhalla said similar incidents have happened twice before at Rajiv Chowk and Udyog Bhavan stations. "There is a lot of rush especially at stations such as Rajiv Chowk. The Metro should have segregated entry and exit points into trains so it helps manage the crowds in an orderly manner." Ms. Bhalla, who suffers from retinitis pigmentosa, which has rendered her blind since birth, was part of a committee that did an external audit on the first line of the Delhi Metro that connected Welcome and Kashmere Gate. "I was part of a 'disability committee' that provided inputs to the Delhi Metro on how to make stations friendly for Persons with Disability. We had then reviewed three stations," she said. Following Thursday's incident, she rang the helpline number of the Delhi Metro and was told that she will be contacted after the footage from the station is reviewed. A Delhi Metro spokesperson said that at the point of frisking, Ms. Bhalla was asked by CISF staff if she needed assistance to reach the train but she declined because her colleague had accompanied her to the station. "We do make regular announcements asking passengers to mind the gap between the platform and the train. The passenger had called the helpline number but it takes some time to review the footage," said the spokesperson. However, Ms. Bhalla denies Delhi Metro's version that she was asked if she needed assistance. http://www.dailypioneer.com/city Vikas Kapoor, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137 Skype Id: dl_vikas Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessin dia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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Very sad I spoke with Sweety a short while back and she is very hurt and very shaken. She is almost losing her confidence of travelling independently around! In case that happens, what will become of her? How does she remain a contributing member of the society? And who then is going to look after her and her little daughter? The gap is enormous where she fell and there are no raised borders to indicate the end of the platform to indicate to blind passengers that there is the danger of falling into the rails? In fact not only children, but this could have happened to anyone! In the kind of rush at office hours in the Metros, even people who can see cant actually make out where they are placing their feet! I think instead of playing the blame game, the authorities might as well do something about this kind of situation. It maybe one of these days, the next person to slip down that gap is a dear one of the people who are today responsible to be able to bring about these small improvements for blind commuters, and of whom there are many! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 5:32 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: [AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Sowmiya Ashok The gap between the platform and a Delhi Metro train got the better of a visually impaired commuter on Thursday evening as she was about to board the train at the Nehru Place metro station. Sweety Bhalla, a government employee, who was entering the train found her legs collapsing into the gap - which was not exceptionally large. But for two male co-passengers, who hurriedly pulled her up, she could have suffered grievous injuries. The incident happened around 5-20 p.m. "I put a leg forward thinking I will step on the train but my left leg went in completely into the gap between the platform and the train. It was so unexpected, I couldn't understand and when I was pulled up I felt bruises on my right ankle, knee and elbow," she said. Fortunately for Ms. Bhalla, her co-passengers helped her up before the train's doors shut on her. A resident of Karol Bagh, Ms. Bhalla travels from Jhandewalan to Nehru Place and back on a daily basis. "The gaps at all stations should be uniform so that no untoward incident happens. This is especially dangerous for young children who can fall into the gap while boarding or de-boarding the train at rush hours," she said. "The problem is that in some places the gap is smaller and at others it's larger. There should be some uniformity," she added. Ms. Bhalla said similar incidents have happened twice before at Rajiv Chowk and Udyog Bhavan stations. "There is a lot of rush especially at stations such as Rajiv Chowk. The Metro should have segregated entry and exit points into trains so it helps manage the crowds in an orderly manner." Ms. Bhalla, who suffers from retinitis pigmentosa, which has rendered her blind since birth, was part of a committee that did an external audit on the first line of the Delhi Metro that connected Welcome and Kashmere Gate. "I was part of a 'disability committee' that provided inputs to the Delhi Metro on how to make stations friendly for Persons with Disability. We had then reviewed three stations," she said. Following Thursday's incident, she rang the helpline number of the Delhi Metro and was told that she will be contacted after the footage from the station is reviewed. A Delhi Metro spokesperson said that at the point of frisking, Ms. Bhalla was asked by CISF staff if she needed assistance to reach the train but she declined because her colleague had accompanied her to the station. "We do make regular announcements asking passengers to mind the gap between the platform and the train. The passenger had called the helpline number but it takes some time to review the footage," said the spokesperson. However, Ms. Bhalla denies Delhi Metro's version that she was asked if she needed assistance. http://www.dailypioneer.com/city Vikas Kapoor, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137 Skype Id: dl_v
[AI] Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station
Visually impaired girl escapes accident at metro station Sowmiya Ashok The gap between the platform and a Delhi Metro train got the better of a visually impaired commuter on Thursday evening as she was about to board the train at the Nehru Place metro station. Sweety Bhalla, a government employee, who was entering the train found her legs collapsing into the gap - which was not exceptionally large. But for two male co-passengers, who hurriedly pulled her up, she could have suffered grievous injuries. The incident happened around 5-20 p.m. "I put a leg forward thinking I will step on the train but my left leg went in completely into the gap between the platform and the train. It was so unexpected, I couldn't understand and when I was pulled up I felt bruises on my right ankle, knee and elbow," she said. Fortunately for Ms. Bhalla, her co-passengers helped her up before the train's doors shut on her. A resident of Karol Bagh, Ms. Bhalla travels from Jhandewalan to Nehru Place and back on a daily basis. "The gaps at all stations should be uniform so that no untoward incident happens. This is especially dangerous for young children who can fall into the gap while boarding or de-boarding the train at rush hours," she said. "The problem is that in some places the gap is smaller and at others it's larger. There should be some uniformity," she added. Ms. Bhalla said similar incidents have happened twice before at Rajiv Chowk and Udyog Bhavan stations. "There is a lot of rush especially at stations such as Rajiv Chowk. The Metro should have segregated entry and exit points into trains so it helps manage the crowds in an orderly manner." Ms. Bhalla, who suffers from retinitis pigmentosa, which has rendered her blind since birth, was part of a committee that did an external audit on the first line of the Delhi Metro that connected Welcome and Kashmere Gate. "I was part of a 'disability committee' that provided inputs to the Delhi Metro on how to make stations friendly for Persons with Disability. We had then reviewed three stations," she said. Following Thursday's incident, she rang the helpline number of the Delhi Metro and was told that she will be contacted after the footage from the station is reviewed. A Delhi Metro spokesperson said that at the point of frisking, Ms. Bhalla was asked by CISF staff if she needed assistance to reach the train but she declined because her colleague had accompanied her to the station. "We do make regular announcements asking passengers to mind the gap between the platform and the train. The passenger had called the helpline number but it takes some time to review the footage," said the spokesperson. However, Ms. Bhalla denies Delhi Metro's version that she was asked if she needed assistance. http://www.dailypioneer.com/city Vikas Kapoor, Mobile: (+91) 9891098137 Skype Id: dl_vikas Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
