[AI] separate judiciary
Dear friends, very often do we see that people sitting on judiciary dont understnad disabled persons at all and pass on ridiculous decision, and once in a thousand decisions it is challenged. demanding a country would be entirely against the inclusion but can we demand a judiciary wherer disabled people are heard properly. an employee fights for years and years just to prove that he can work after losing eyes. a student has to prove that he can study even without eyes. a person has to prove to everybody that he can compete with the sighted world. can we fight for this? what are the options availabel/ expect your replies. thanks Himalaya To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] separate judiciary
Hi Himalaya, The problem you mentioned is applicable for all issues, not only those related to disability. Such is the state of our judicial system. But your idea of a fast track court to hear disability issues alone is an interesting one. There is merit in the argument that persons with disability require action quicker that the rest of the country but I think it will be difficult to get this implemented. Another option may be to give sensitization training to the judiciary. This should also be explored. I suspect that this may be easier to implement. Best regards, Rahul Cherian InclusivePlanet.com On 23 March 2010 12:55, himalaya singh Rawat himalayasinghra...@gmail.comwrote: Dear friends, very often do we see that people sitting on judiciary dont understnad disabled persons at all and pass on ridiculous decision, and once in a thousand decisions it is challenged. demanding a country would be entirely against the inclusion but can we demand a judiciary wherer disabled people are heard properly. an employee fights for years and years just to prove that he can work after losing eyes. a student has to prove that he can study even without eyes. a person has to prove to everybody that he can compete with the sighted world. can we fight for this? what are the options availabel/ expect your replies. thanks Himalaya To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] separate judiciary
The judiciary of the country is actually getting better than the beaurocrats. You can definitely fight for your rights but have to go through a channel. Please write your grievance to CCD's office of your state first. Shalini Khanna Hony. Director NAB, India -Centre for Blind Women L-25, Hauz Khas Enclave New Delhi Ph. no. 011- 41656266, 9811772499 --- On Tue, 3/23/10, himalaya singh Rawat himalayasinghra...@gmail.com wrote: From: himalaya singh Rawat himalayasinghra...@gmail.com Subject: [AI] separate judiciary To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 12:55 PM Dear friends, very often do we see that people sitting on judiciary dont understnad disabled persons at all and pass on ridiculous decision, and once in a thousand decisions it is challenged. demanding a country would be entirely against the inclusion but can we demand a judiciary wherer disabled people are heard properly. an employee fights for years and years just to prove that he can work after losing eyes. a student has to prove that he can study even without eyes. a person has to prove to everybody that he can compete with the sighted world. can we fight for this? what are the options availabel/ expect your replies. thanks Himalaya To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] separate judiciary
Dear rahul and all, I have heard about disability related module for I A S officers while they go through their initial training. if something like this is incorporated and we have separate benches for disability related cases then we can reach to some amicable solutions. judges judging the cases may not be only from judiciary but from the field specific. a court where the disabled can fight for themselves and argue for their cases. there must be awareness and understanding the grave issues at hand. Shalini: do you know that CCD's havent got great power in hand. he can not do anything more than issuing a letter. you are well aware how long does it take to get even a reply of emails from CCD office. going through the channel is the language of the generation of the past and of those who want the issues to be in oblivion for uncertain period of time, its bureaucratic. what channel would you give me if we do not have even books even after more than sixty years of independence. i am not saying that blow the system out but a quick and amicable solution at the earliest. it is for sure that you have not been to the lower courts of different states. the image of court is getting better but the real situation on the ground is pretty different. himalaya singh On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:25 PM, rahul cherian rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com wrote: Hi Himalaya, The problem you mentioned is applicable for all issues, not only those related to disability. Such is the state of our judicial system. But your idea of a fast track court to hear disability issues alone is an interesting one. There is merit in the argument that persons with disability require action quicker that the rest of the country but I think it will be difficult to get this implemented. Another option may be to give sensitization training to the judiciary. This should also be explored. I suspect that this may be easier to implement. Best regards, Rahul Cherian InclusivePlanet.com On 23 March 2010 12:55, himalaya singh Rawat himalayasinghra...@gmail.comwrote: Dear friends, very often do we see that people sitting on judiciary dont understnad disabled persons at all and pass on ridiculous decision, and once in a thousand decisions it is challenged. demanding a country would be entirely against the inclusion but can we demand a judiciary wherer disabled people are heard properly. an employee fights for years and years just to prove that he can work after losing eyes. a student has to prove that he can study even without eyes. a person has to prove to everybody that he can compete with the sighted world. can we fight for this? what are the options availabel/ expect your replies. thanks Himalaya To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] separate judiciary
Hi Himalaya, Chief Commissioner for persons with disabilities is the best solution for such type of problems. The issues that you've mentioned in your mail are well within the jurisdiction of CCPD. You might be aware that a disable person can file his or her complain online as well!!! CCPD is legally bound to decide the case within three months from the date of filing of the complain. Yes. They don't do whatever they're appointed to do, and personally, my experience with CCPD has been a bitter sort of thing. But people like you and me and others will have to make them accountable!!! I personally think that a note relating to these type of issues and the link of CCPD has to be appended at the end of each every accessindia mail, so each and everyone could know about it. Thanks and regards, Akhilesh. On 3/23/10, rahul cherian rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com wrote: Hi Himalaya, The problem you mentioned is applicable for all issues, not only those related to disability. Such is the state of our judicial system. But your idea of a fast track court to hear disability issues alone is an interesting one. There is merit in the argument that persons with disability require action quicker that the rest of the country but I think it will be difficult to get this implemented. Another option may be to give sensitization training to the judiciary. This should also be explored. I suspect that this may be easier to implement. Best regards, Rahul Cherian InclusivePlanet.com On 23 March 2010 12:55, himalaya singh Rawat himalayasinghra...@gmail.comwrote: Dear friends, very often do we see that people sitting on judiciary dont understnad disabled persons at all and pass on ridiculous decision, and once in a thousand decisions it is challenged. demanding a country would be entirely against the inclusion but can we demand a judiciary wherer disabled people are heard properly. an employee fights for years and years just to prove that he can work after losing eyes. a student has to prove that he can study even without eyes. a person has to prove to everybody that he can compete with the sighted world. can we fight for this? what are the options availabel/ expect your replies. thanks Himalaya To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- === Visit my blog at: freestuff4indians.blogspot.com Skype ID: akhil.akhil29 === To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] separate judiciary
dear akhilesh, i gave some examples, it is the not the whole issue i am talking about. what we need a better judicial system for us. i would agree that whatever we discuss here should be sent to the ccpd also and the M S J E, different ministeries and leaders. it would be a nice idea. On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:18 PM, akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Himalaya, Chief Commissioner for persons with disabilities is the best solution for such type of problems. The issues that you've mentioned in your mail are well within the jurisdiction of CCPD. You might be aware that a disable person can file his or her complain online as well!!! CCPD is legally bound to decide the case within three months from the date of filing of the complain. Yes. They don't do whatever they're appointed to do, and personally, my experience with CCPD has been a bitter sort of thing. But people like you and me and others will have to make them accountable!!! I personally think that a note relating to these type of issues and the link of CCPD has to be appended at the end of each every accessindia mail, so each and everyone could know about it. Thanks and regards, Akhilesh. On 3/23/10, rahul cherian rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com wrote: Hi Himalaya, The problem you mentioned is applicable for all issues, not only those related to disability. Such is the state of our judicial system. But your idea of a fast track court to hear disability issues alone is an interesting one. There is merit in the argument that persons with disability require action quicker that the rest of the country but I think it will be difficult to get this implemented. Another option may be to give sensitization training to the judiciary. This should also be explored. I suspect that this may be easier to implement. Best regards, Rahul Cherian InclusivePlanet.com On 23 March 2010 12:55, himalaya singh Rawat himalayasinghra...@gmail.comwrote: Dear friends, very often do we see that people sitting on judiciary dont understnad disabled persons at all and pass on ridiculous decision, and once in a thousand decisions it is challenged. demanding a country would be entirely against the inclusion but can we demand a judiciary wherer disabled people are heard properly. an employee fights for years and years just to prove that he can work after losing eyes. a student has to prove that he can study even without eyes. a person has to prove to everybody that he can compete with the sighted world. can we fight for this? what are the options availabel/ expect your replies. thanks Himalaya To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- === Visit my blog at: freestuff4indians.blogspot.com Skype ID: akhil.akhil29 === To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] separate judiciary
Yeah why not!!! CCPD guys seems to have caught by laziness, and they're not discharging there duties which they have been appointed for. As I've mentioned earlier, they're legally bound to decide the case within 3 months i.e. 90 days from the date of filing of the complain, and if They’re avoiding there responsibilities in contravention of the PWD act, something serious has to be done!!! The RTI can be a great help in this regard... specially in the case of delay... Subramani sir has prepared a very thrilling questionnaire in recent past, so why should we not expect another questionnaire from him relating to the experiences with CCPD? Believe me it’ll make a good storyline for the front page!!! The results will take care of themselves!!! On 3/23/10, himalaya singh Rawat himalayasinghra...@gmail.com wrote: dear akhilesh, i gave some examples, it is the not the whole issue i am talking about. what we need a better judicial system for us. i would agree that whatever we discuss here should be sent to the ccpd also and the M S J E, different ministeries and leaders. it would be a nice idea. On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:18 PM, akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Himalaya, Chief Commissioner for persons with disabilities is the best solution for such type of problems. The issues that you've mentioned in your mail are well within the jurisdiction of CCPD. You might be aware that a disable person can file his or her complain online as well!!! CCPD is legally bound to decide the case within three months from the date of filing of the complain. Yes. They don't do whatever they're appointed to do, and personally, my experience with CCPD has been a bitter sort of thing. But people like you and me and others will have to make them accountable!!! I personally think that a note relating to these type of issues and the link of CCPD has to be appended at the end of each every accessindia mail, so each and everyone could know about it. Thanks and regards, Akhilesh. On 3/23/10, rahul cherian rahul.cher...@inclusiveplanet.com wrote: Hi Himalaya, The problem you mentioned is applicable for all issues, not only those related to disability. Such is the state of our judicial system. But your idea of a fast track court to hear disability issues alone is an interesting one. There is merit in the argument that persons with disability require action quicker that the rest of the country but I think it will be difficult to get this implemented. Another option may be to give sensitization training to the judiciary. This should also be explored. I suspect that this may be easier to implement. Best regards, Rahul Cherian InclusivePlanet.com On 23 March 2010 12:55, himalaya singh Rawat himalayasinghra...@gmail.comwrote: Dear friends, very often do we see that people sitting on judiciary dont understnad disabled persons at all and pass on ridiculous decision, and once in a thousand decisions it is challenged. demanding a country would be entirely against the inclusion but can we demand a judiciary wherer disabled people are heard properly. an employee fights for years and years just to prove that he can work after losing eyes. a student has to prove that he can study even without eyes. a person has to prove to everybody that he can compete with the sighted world. can we fight for this? what are the options availabel/ expect your replies. thanks Himalaya To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- === Visit my blog at: freestuff4indians.blogspot.com Skype ID: akhil.akhil29 === To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.inwith the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- === Visit my blog at: freestuff4indians.blogspot.com Skype ID: akhil.akhil29 === To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your
