Re: [AI] Mac computers
Hi, Personallly, I prefer PC over Mac as far as accessibility goes. I found the Mac's interface rather weard to use, though this could be because of limited usage. No doubt, Voice Over is pretty good, but in my view, not as good as screen readers like JAWS. Also, I found some of the applications when used on Mac to be more inaccessible than on Windows. Best, On 1/18/14, Ruchi wrote: > Dear all, > > Needed feedback on using mac computers, in terms of accessibility. What is > preferable, windows or mac? What are the advantages of each over the other. > > > Thanks and regards, > Ruchi > > Sent from my iPhone > Time to meet up again! > Register for AccessIndia Convention 2014: > http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails); karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails) Skype: kartik.sawhney22 Time to meet up again! Register for AccessIndia Convention 2014: http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Mac computers
Hi, It also depends on what tasks you want to perform. >From what I have heard, voiceover doesn't provide complete support for PDF and Microsoft office for mac. So if you want to work on office applications, then windows will be a better option. For more information on apple products and podcasts, you can visit www.applevis.com. This website is a very good resource for learning to use apple products. One thing is that you can install windows on mac computer through bootcam, so you can have best of both worlds. Thanks and Regards. Dinesh Thole. On 1/19/14, Kartik Sawhney wrote: > Hi, > > Personallly, I prefer PC over Mac as far as accessibility goes. I > found the Mac's interface rather weard to use, though this could be > because of limited usage. No doubt, Voice Over is pretty good, but in > my view, not as good as screen readers like JAWS. Also, I found some > of the applications when used on Mac to be more inaccessible than on > Windows. > > Best, > > On 1/18/14, Ruchi wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> Needed feedback on using mac computers, in terms of accessibility. What >> is >> preferable, windows or mac? What are the advantages of each over the >> other. >> >> >> Thanks and regards, >> Ruchi >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> Time to meet up again! >> Register for AccessIndia Convention 2014: >> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >> mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> > > > -- > -Kartik Sawhney, > Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 > E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails); > karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails) > Skype: kartik.sawhney22 > > Time to meet up again! > Register for AccessIndia Convention 2014: > http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > Time to meet up again! Register for AccessIndia Convention 2014: http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Mac computers
Hello, I, for one, have always enjoyed using VoiceOver more than JAWS. Kartik, I see where you're coming from, because even I was initially unable to use VoiceOver as effectively as I am able to use it now. JAWS is very different from VoiceOver, so you will take some time to get used to it. Otherwise, the Mac is generally more stable than Windows, so VoiceOver rarely gets stuck anywhere. That being said, you cannot use applications like Powerpoint and Excel on the Mac, so you'll have to buy their equivalents from the Mac App Store. Most of these applications are on the expensive side and are also not as accessible as MS Office applications. Feel free to contact me off-list if you wish to discuss this in greater detail. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 19, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Kartik Sawhney wrote: > > Hi, > > Personallly, I prefer PC over Mac as far as accessibility goes. I > found the Mac's interface rather weard to use, though this could be > because of limited usage. No doubt, Voice Over is pretty good, but in > my view, not as good as screen readers like JAWS. Also, I found some > of the applications when used on Mac to be more inaccessible than on > Windows. > > Best, > >> On 1/18/14, Ruchi wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> Needed feedback on using mac computers, in terms of accessibility. What is >> preferable, windows or mac? What are the advantages of each over the other. >> >> >> Thanks and regards, >> Ruchi >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> Time to meet up again! >> Register for AccessIndia Convention 2014: >> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails >> sent through this mailing list.. > > > -- > -Kartik Sawhney, > Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 > E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails); > karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails) > Skype: kartik.sawhney22 > > Time to meet up again! > Register for AccessIndia Convention 2014: > http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. Time to meet up again! Register for AccessIndia Convention 2014: http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Mac computers
Hi Its better to invest in Mac because any day voice over is better than Jaws and is also free. There is a kit for voice which you can install to enhance the accessibility of voice over. If you feel like using windows you can boot up windows as well on a mac. There you can use jaws and other office application. I have not used iWork which is equallent to ms office but iWork on I devices works perfectly and iOs is mac's stripped down version so I guess voice over will work with iWork. On 1/18/14, Rahul Bajaj wrote: > Hello, > > I, for one, have always enjoyed using VoiceOver more than JAWS. > Kartik, I see where you're coming from, because even I was initially > unable to use VoiceOver as effectively as I am able to use it now. JAWS is > very different from VoiceOver, so you will take some time to get used to > it. > Otherwise, the Mac is generally more stable than Windows, so VoiceOver > rarely gets stuck anywhere. > > That being said, you cannot use applications like Powerpoint and Excel on > the Mac, so you'll have to buy their equivalents from the Mac App Store. > Most of these applications are on the expensive side and are also not as > accessible as MS Office applications. > Feel free to contact me off-list if you wish to discuss this in greater > detail. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 19, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Kartik Sawhney >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Personallly, I prefer PC over Mac as far as accessibility goes. I >> found the Mac's interface rather weard to use, though this could be >> because of limited usage. No doubt, Voice Over is pretty good, but in >> my view, not as good as screen readers like JAWS. Also, I found some >> of the applications when used on Mac to be more inaccessible than on >> Windows. >> >> Best, >> >>> On 1/18/14, Ruchi wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> Needed feedback on using mac computers, in terms of accessibility. What >>> is >>> preferable, windows or mac? What are the advantages of each over the >>> other. >>> >>> >>> Thanks and regards, >>> Ruchi >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> Time to meet up again! >>> Register for AccessIndia Convention 2014: >>> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>> of >>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> the >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> sent through this mailing list.. >> >> >> -- >> -Kartik Sawhney, >> Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 >> E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com (all personal E-mails); >> karti...@stanford.edu (all academic E-mails) >> Skype: kartik.sawhney22 >> >> Time to meet up again! >> Register for AccessIndia Convention 2014: >> http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >> the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >> veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails >> sent through this mailing list.. > > Time to meet up again! > Register for AccessIndia Convention 2014: > http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at >
Re: [AI] Mac computers
Dear Ruchi Aunty, I have used both Mac, and Windows. Learning to use Voice Over takes some time, and primarily I say so because in Voice Over the shortcuts comprise of 3 or 4 keys together. For example, Control, options, and page down lets you read the next Paragraph. Whereas in Windows its normally a 2-key press thing with all screen readers. Second big consideration for me is that for Voice Over you will not receive updates unless the system update is available, because it is built In into the system as a system app. This is a huge consideration for me, because if there are dynamic changes in some of the apps, you can expect the screen reader companies to launch a fix. Otherwise you can always liaise with the support of these company to design a customized fix for you. Thirdly, I could not use MS Office and certain third party apps with Voice Over for advance tasks. In general, some utility apps of third parties still don't have the accessibility. Of course since Windows has come a long way, it is better in that sense. So I can hope that in future Voice Over will be more accessible with third party apps as well. Due to the accessibility limitations at the moment, I cannot suggest you to switch Aarijeet completely on to Mac, however if you want to give him a flavor and if you decide to let him stay on Mac in future, then you need to make sure that for the time-being he uses both Windows (wherever required) and Mac. There is a utility called Bootcam which lets you install Windows on Mac. Having said all of this, using Voice Over is not discomforting, once you get use to of it. But due to the above limitations, we can't switch to it as a full fledged OS for our needs. Let me know if you need further help with this. Regards, -- Amar Jain. Website: www.amarjain.com Time to meet up again! Register for AccessIndia Convention 2014: http://accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
