Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Deatr Kartik Wonderful! You are an amazing person! I am so inspired with your spirit and your excellence and work! You have made me proud! Unlimited blessings and good wishes from m! Preetie Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kartik Sawhney Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 7:39 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Hey Ishita, Just because you think a particular job profile might be inaccessible or rather hard for a blind person does not imply that it will indeed be the case. Last month, I happened to attend a STEM access conference in Washington. Can you think of a blind civil engineer? Or, how about a blind chemist? Or even better, how about a blind surgeon? Sounds impossible, right. But, I met some people who are actually involved in these vocations, and are well-known in their field. They use some rather clever adaptations. The point that I'm trying to drive home is that with the evolution of technology, a lot is possible. You just need to explore alternate ways of doing things. It might be a little challenging first, but then, everything smoothens out. While I agree with Rajesh Sir that there's no point being overly optimistic, accepting something as impossible and being very pessimistic is also bad. I'm not being philosophical or optimistic here, but am rather quoting from experience and example. Also, quoting a line from your E-mail: we all know what we can do and what we can't Well, I don't really think so. There's much more than we think we can do. Sky is the limit, after all! We just need to come up with alternate ways and approaches. Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 (US), +91-9958499435 (India) E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com, karti...@stanford.edu Skype: kartik.sawhney22 On 7/4/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: Dear preety madam, We are enough motivated I guess. We all have accepted blindness. We all know what we can do and what we can't. We all know what is situation and why. But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then optimistic talks I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work in banks for visually impaired. Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc. But this is not ideal job for us. There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can't rely on somebody will come and will read out form for us. We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do everything mindset. I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing. And I am learning from the person like you. But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good at everything won't work in real world. On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com nupur.j...@wipro.com wrote: Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our disability. If we are blind, so what? Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in life. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is real bad! We all are ourselves facing so many difficulties all the time. Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very upset? I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept what we are getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things be as they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to get better very very slowly! If we remain depressed and angry and disheartened, where will we find the courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation? That is why we need to motivate
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
I would like to mention that though lot has been done for the visually impaired, but yet considering sky as limit would be exaggeration. I am not saying that we should be pesimistic, but we should always know our boundries and work acordingly. May be after some years many more fields would become accessible. However, in today's context the field of say BSF for instance is totally out of range for visually impaired. They might get employment in BSF, but they would be able to work only in office and not guard the border. On 7/5/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Deatr Kartik Wonderful! You are an amazing person! I am so inspired with your spirit and your excellence and work! You have made me proud! Unlimited blessings and good wishes from m! Preetie Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kartik Sawhney Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 7:39 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Hey Ishita, Just because you think a particular job profile might be inaccessible or rather hard for a blind person does not imply that it will indeed be the case. Last month, I happened to attend a STEM access conference in Washington. Can you think of a blind civil engineer? Or, how about a blind chemist? Or even better, how about a blind surgeon? Sounds impossible, right. But, I met some people who are actually involved in these vocations, and are well-known in their field. They use some rather clever adaptations. The point that I'm trying to drive home is that with the evolution of technology, a lot is possible. You just need to explore alternate ways of doing things. It might be a little challenging first, but then, everything smoothens out. While I agree with Rajesh Sir that there's no point being overly optimistic, accepting something as impossible and being very pessimistic is also bad. I'm not being philosophical or optimistic here, but am rather quoting from experience and example. Also, quoting a line from your E-mail: we all know what we can do and what we can't Well, I don't really think so. There's much more than we think we can do. Sky is the limit, after all! We just need to come up with alternate ways and approaches. Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 (US), +91-9958499435 (India) E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com, karti...@stanford.edu Skype: kartik.sawhney22 On 7/4/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: Dear preety madam, We are enough motivated I guess. We all have accepted blindness. We all know what we can do and what we can't. We all know what is situation and why. But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then optimistic talks I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work in banks for visually impaired. Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc. But this is not ideal job for us. There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can't rely on somebody will come and will read out form for us. We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do everything mindset. I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing. And I am learning from the person like you. But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good at everything won't work in real world. On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com nupur.j...@wipro.com wrote: Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our disability. If we are blind, so what? Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in life. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is real bad! We all
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Very true indeed Karthik. I am VI doctor working in Govt.service . I examine around 50 op a day and in the office time looks the hospital administration. I am giving the prescriptions in printouts and there is auditory BP monitre and glucometer to assisst me. In my experience it iis not at all a big challenge to practise medicine. regards Dr.Jalaja M.B.B.S. Civil Surgeon and M.O. in charge Kerala health services -- From: Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 6:12 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Hi, It's not about India or the US. it's about being able to do something or not. While I agree that we in India are not that open to allow a blind student to pursue medicine, for instance, it is we who have to bring this change. Who would have thought that blind students will study in the most prestigious B-schools in the country ten years ago? Who would have thought that the Indian Institutes of Technology will finally allow blind students to pursue Computer Science and Engineering courses? But, that's happened. There are over 15 students graduated or currently studying at IIMs. A year after I was suppose to take the JEE for admission to the IITs, IITs completed changed their rules, and have now made them disabled-friendly. So, things are slowly shaping up. I agree there is a lot of struggle involved, but if we don't give up, then I wouldn't be surprised if we have people pursuing medicine and whatnot in India too. Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 (US), +91-9958499435 (India) E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com, karti...@stanford.edu Skype: kartik.sawhney22 On 7/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Very much true but unfortunately not really suited to Indian mentality! Indian mentality here represents the some total of whole Indian view points... - Original Message - From: Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Hey Ishita, Just because you think a particular job profile might be inaccessible or rather hard for a blind person does not imply that it will indeed be the case. Last month, I happened to attend a STEM access conference in Washington. Can you think of a blind civil engineer? Or, how about a blind chemist? Or even better, how about a blind surgeon? Sounds impossible, right. But, I met some people who are actually involved in these vocations, and are well-known in their field. They use some rather clever adaptations. The point that I'm trying to drive home is that with the evolution of technology, a lot is possible. You just need to explore alternate ways of doing things. It might be a little challenging first, but then, everything smoothens out. While I agree with Rajesh Sir that there's no point being overly optimistic, accepting something as impossible and being very pessimistic is also bad. I'm not being philosophical or optimistic here, but am rather quoting from experience and example. Also, quoting a line from your E-mail: we all know what we can do and what we can't Well, I don't really think so. There's much more than we think we can do. Sky is the limit, after all! We just need to come up with alternate ways and approaches. Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 (US), +91-9958499435 (India) E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com, karti...@stanford.edu Skype: kartik.sawhney22 On 7/4/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: Dear preety madam, We are enough motivated I guess. We all have accepted blindness. We all know what we can do and what we can't. We all know what is situation and why. But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then optimistic talks I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work in banks for visually impaired. Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc. But this is not ideal job for us. There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can't rely on somebody will come and will read out form for us. We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do everything mindset. I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing. And I am learning from the person like you. But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good at everything won't work in real world. On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com nupur.j...@wipro.com wrote: Above all we need to have a positive
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature. We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly thanks to reservation. Though we are enough capable. There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors. But such people can be counted by the tip of finger. Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks. Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the blind. If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will have to make his system up to the expectation for the blind And which is not always easy or possible. Only awareness can improve our circumstances On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: I know Avinash, it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the female blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity of going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I can't even begin to write about their state! It has torne me apart! The female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind? Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from wherever I can with the limited or should I say no resources! Let us all keep trying whatever we can do, and I am sure something somewhere will turn up and conditions will begin to improve! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:03 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners You are right sir. But what about those persons with disabilities who are between 18 to 35 years of age,unemployed, unmarried, abandoned by families and invisible to the state? whom Cambridge based educationist Nidhi Singal has rightly termed: forgotten youth with disabilities. On 7/3/14, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote: Jobs come later. The primary need of the hour is good quality education and high quality rehab services in every district if not every town..! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 03 July 2014 14:45 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I think it is high time issue of jobs for blind should be discussed and dwelled upon in detail. So thanks to Ishita for presenting this opportunity for serious consideration for me at least. As far as my reading of literature goes on the topic, it pains me to the core. According to one RTI response obtained from DOPT: ' Out of over 24 lakh employees belonging to Group A, B and C, the total number of persons employed from disabled category was merely 5,014 on January 1, 2012' (Yadav, Indian Express, 2013: 3 December) (http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/disabled-have-3--quota-in-govt-jobs- but-add-up-to-only-0.12-/1202425/). Further, Census 2001, NSSO 58 round 2002 and World Bank report on India 2007 categorically inform us that among disabled people employed with publick sector undertakings, the biggest share has gone to persons with locomotor disabilities. To make matter worse, from unofficial estimate, only 15% jobs in government sectors are identified for persons with disabilities, So you can simply surmise where are blind people stand today. Owing to paucity of time I should quickly critically comment on private sector and persons with disabilities. Since the neo-liberal dispensation has stretched its wings in Indian markets, jobs have accrued to a particular class. And the other class which comprises of a disabled living in the countryside, who struggles to boast English accent, finds it hard to buy computer/mobile what to speak of JAWS and Elliquence, has been hit hard. Like any other population group, , We blind people also belong to different hierarchical backgrounds
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Dear Ishita, Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is real bad! We all are ourselves facing so many difficulties all the time. Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very upset? I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept what we are getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things be as they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to get better very very slowly! If we remain depressed and angry and disheartened, where will we find the courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation? That is why we need to motivate and encourage each other and together we can do something to make things better Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 1:29 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature. We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly thanks to reservation. Though we are enough capable. There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors. But such people can be counted by the tip of finger. Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks. Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the blind. If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will have to make his system up to the expectation for the blind And which is not always easy or possible. Only awareness can improve our circumstances On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: I know Avinash, it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the female blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity of going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I can't even begin to write about their state! It has torne me apart! The female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind? Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from wherever I can with the limited or should I say no resources! Let us all keep trying whatever we can do, and I am sure something somewhere will turn up and conditions will begin to improve! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:03 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners You are right sir. But what about those persons with disabilities who are between 18 to 35 years of age,unemployed, unmarried, abandoned by families and invisible to the state? whom Cambridge based educationist Nidhi Singal has rightly termed: forgotten youth with disabilities. On 7/3/14, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote: Jobs come later. The primary need of the hour is good quality education and high quality rehab services in every district if not every town..! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 03 July 2014 14:45 To: AccessIndia: a list
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our disability. If we are blind, so what? Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in life. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is real bad! We all are ourselves facing so many difficulties all the time. Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very upset? I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept what we are getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things be as they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to get better very very slowly! If we remain depressed and angry and disheartened, where will we find the courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation? That is why we need to motivate and encourage each other and together we can do something to make things better Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 1:29 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature. We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly thanks to reservation. Though we are enough capable. There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors. But such people can be counted by the tip of finger. Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks. Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the blind. If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will have to make his system up to the expectation for the blind And which is not always easy or possible. Only awareness can improve our circumstances On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: I know Avinash, it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the female blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity of going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I can't even begin to write about their state! It has torne me apart! The female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind? Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from wherever I can with the limited or should I say no resources! Let us all keep trying whatever we can do, and I am sure something somewhere will turn up and conditions will begin to improve! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:03 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners You are right sir. But what about those persons with disabilities who
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Ishita Dear, I have been reading mails from you since quite some time. Would like to share one simplle example, me and my brother,both happen to have little sight. I have put myself into a slowly moving career by not believing in myself and ended with a job with so called reservation and my younger brother with his determination and hardwork not only completed his B. Tech, MBA from IIM Ahmedabad but is placed with a Leading firm giving him a package of 20 lacs. It was never my fault , things and perceptions change with time and eye-opening experiences. I have had some excellent ones in last 6 months and I happen to be learning person now. Trust me, give yourself a chance, enjoy life , learn endlessly and work hard to keep living it. warmly Aditi On 7/4/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature. We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly thanks to reservation. Though we are enough capable. There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors. But such people can be counted by the tip of finger. Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks. Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the blind. If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will have to make his system up to the expectation for the blind And which is not always easy or possible. Only awareness can improve our circumstances On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: I know Avinash, it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the female blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity of going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I can't even begin to write about their state! It has torne me apart! The female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind? Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from wherever I can with the limited or should I say no resources! Let us all keep trying whatever we can do, and I am sure something somewhere will turn up and conditions will begin to improve! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:03 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners You are right sir. But what about those persons with disabilities who are between 18 to 35 years of age,unemployed, unmarried, abandoned by families and invisible to the state? whom Cambridge based educationist Nidhi Singal has rightly termed: forgotten youth with disabilities. On 7/3/14, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote: Jobs come later. The primary need of the hour is good quality education and high quality rehab services in every district if not every town..! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 03 July 2014 14:45 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I think it is high time issue of jobs for blind should be discussed and dwelled upon in detail. So thanks to Ishita for presenting this opportunity for serious consideration for me at least. As far as my reading of literature goes on the topic, it pains me to the core. According to one RTI response obtained from DOPT: ' Out of over 24 lakh employees belonging to Group A, B and C, the total number of persons employed from disabled category was merely 5,014 on January 1, 2012' (Yadav, Indian Express, 2013: 3 December) (http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/disabled-have-3--quota-in-govt-jobs- but-add-up-to-only-0.12-/1202425/). Further, Census 2001, NSSO 58 round 2002 and World Bank report on India 2007 categorically inform us that among disabled people employed with publick
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Dear preety madam, We are enough motivated I guess. We all have accepted blindness. We all know what we can do and what we can’t. We all know what is situation and why. But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then optimistic talks I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work in banks for visually impaired. Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc. But this is not ideal job for us. There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can’t rely on somebody will come and will read out form for us. We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do everything mindset. I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing. And I am learning from the person like you. But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good at everything won’t work in real world. On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com nupur.j...@wipro.com wrote: Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our disability. If we are blind, so what? Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in life. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is real bad! We all are ourselves facing so many difficulties all the time. Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very upset? I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept what we are getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things be as they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to get better very very slowly! If we remain depressed and angry and disheartened, where will we find the courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation? That is why we need to motivate and encourage each other and together we can do something to make things better Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 1:29 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature. We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly thanks to reservation. Though we are enough capable. There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors. But such people can be counted by the tip of finger. Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks. Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the blind. If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will have to make his system up to the expectation for the blind And which is not always easy or possible. Only awareness can improve our circumstances On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: I know Avinash, it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the female blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity of going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I can't even begin to write about their state! It has torne me apart! The female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind? Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from wherever I can with the limited or should I say no resources! Let us all keep trying whatever we can do, and I am sure something somewhere will turn up and conditions will begin to improve! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver
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Yes Noopur, A positive attitude is needed not only for blind people, but everyone needs to develop a prositive attitude! For whatever you think of, becomes your reality... you like it or not, this is the truth! If ou go on hanging on to negative thoughts, your whole life becomes negative, and vice versa. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of nupur.j...@wipro.com Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:04 PM To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our disability. If we are blind, so what? Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in life. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is real bad! We all are ourselves facing so many difficulties all the time. Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very upset? I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept what we are getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things be as they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to get better very very slowly! If we remain depressed and angry and disheartened, where will we find the courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation? That is why we need to motivate and encourage each other and together we can do something to make things better Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 1:29 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature. We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly thanks to reservation. Though we are enough capable. There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors. But such people can be counted by the tip of finger. Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks. Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the blind. If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will have to make his system up to the expectation for the blind And which is not always easy or possible. Only awareness can improve our circumstances On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: I know Avinash, it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the female blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity of going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I can't even begin to write about their state! It has torne me apart! The female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind? Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from wherever I can
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Thank you Aditi for helping me get Ishita to focus on the brighter side of the house. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of aditi bhutani Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:14 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Ishita Dear, I have been reading mails from you since quite some time. Would like to share one simplle example, me and my brother,both happen to have little sight. I have put myself into a slowly moving career by not believing in myself and ended with a job with so called reservation and my younger brother with his determination and hardwork not only completed his B. Tech, MBA from IIM Ahmedabad but is placed with a Leading firm giving him a package of 20 lacs. It was never my fault , things and perceptions change with time and eye-opening experiences. I have had some excellent ones in last 6 months and I happen to be learning person now. Trust me, give yourself a chance, enjoy life , learn endlessly and work hard to keep living it. warmly Aditi On 7/4/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature. We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly thanks to reservation. Though we are enough capable. There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors. But such people can be counted by the tip of finger. Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks. Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the blind. If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will have to make his system up to the expectation for the blind And which is not always easy or possible. Only awareness can improve our circumstances On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: I know Avinash, it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the female blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity of going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I can't even begin to write about their state! It has torne me apart! The female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind? Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from wherever I can with the limited or should I say no resources! Let us all keep trying whatever we can do, and I am sure something somewhere will turn up and conditions will begin to improve! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:03 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners You are right sir. But what about those persons with disabilities who are between 18 to 35 years of age,unemployed, unmarried, abandoned by families and invisible to the state? whom Cambridge based educationist Nidhi Singal has rightly termed: forgotten youth with disabilities. On 7/3/14, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote: Jobs come later. The primary need of the hour is good quality education and high quality rehab services in every district if not every town..! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Ishita, where do you live? I think it may be a good idea for you and me to have a personal chat! We cant do everything, But let us talk over the phone soon? Send me your number OK? You are a very brave and daring young girl and also very intelegent. Life and the visually impaired world can benefit from all these good qualities! And old people like me can really do with your help. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:15 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear preety madam, We are enough motivated I guess. We all have accepted blindness. We all know what we can do and what we can’t. We all know what is situation and why. But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then optimistic talks I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work in banks for visually impaired. Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc. But this is not ideal job for us. There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can’t rely on somebody will come and will read out form for us. We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do everything mindset. I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing. And I am learning from the person like you. But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good at everything won’t work in real world. On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com nupur.j...@wipro.com wrote: Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our disability. If we are blind, so what? Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in life. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is real bad! We all are ourselves facing so many difficulties all the time. Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very upset? I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept what we are getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things be as they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to get better very very slowly! If we remain depressed and angry and disheartened, where will we find the courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation? That is why we need to motivate and encourage each other and together we can do something to make things better Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 1:29 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature. We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly thanks to reservation
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Dear ones, The fact that Ishita or me or anyone else highlights practicalities of blindness does not mean we are demotivated or do not want to do anything about the situation. we are already doing many things, but let us accept the fact that situation on the ground is far from satisfactory. Unrealistically boasting our confidence would prove counterproductive and we have to first accept the reality in order to change it to our advantage. Frankly speaking, positive lecturing repells me. So, let us do our bid, accepting negative situations prevailing, and trying for some betterment in the attitude. all said and done, howsoever conducive the infrastructure and attitudes are, lack of sight would still matter, and the sooner we discard the dreams of perfect felicity with blindness, the better. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is real bad! We all are ourselves facing so many difficulties all the time. Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very upset? I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept what we are getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things be as they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to get better very very slowly! If we remain depressed and angry and disheartened, where will we find the courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation? That is why we need to motivate and encourage each other and together we can do something to make things better Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 1:29 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature. We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly thanks to reservation. Though we are enough capable. There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors. But such people can be counted by the tip of finger. Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks. Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the blind. If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will have to make his system up to the expectation for the blind And which is not always easy or possible. Only awareness can improve our circumstances On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: I know Avinash, it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the female blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity of going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I can't even begin to write about their state! It has torne me apart! The female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind? Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from wherever I can with the limited or should I say no resources! Let us all keep trying whatever we can do, and I am sure something somewhere will turn up and conditions will begin to improve! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
ishita, I am sure you will share your number with preeti. Regarding this discussion on passbook printing and account opening, would not have been taking place if there were no optimistic people (so many of them are here on the list itself), sitting in these bank jobs prooving their potential. I am dealing with close to hundered persons daily at my branch, things are never perfect but that is why there is room for improvement and motivation is what facilitates it. you are working with a call center and if you acquire professional skills of a voice trainer or other specialized tasks in the industry you will definitely rise in your career. If I am not wrong such work experience can give you jobs in the HR side of other firms as well. And are there not non-disabled people working with lesser paid jobs, they also have a potential but the same is underutilized in absence of the right motivation. Its a vicious circle which entangles us and we blame it to the society. The poor society is ignorant . Start telling them you can do it. My parents had requested my school teachers for large size question papers for me in my school days. It took a minute for this office boy to get it done and I used to wait for him after the exam started. In my class eightth , this teacher of mine came shouting and banging , why was the same done. Her words Who will give these question papers to you during your boards? When you have to fail then, why make this effort? The poor kid in me lost to her loud voice, but I stood again in the next exam to ask for the enlarged paper. I had scored highest marks in the non-disabled school out of a batch of 500 students in class twelvth boards not only because I could find another teacher who made sure to give me the required help at my little indication but because I was motivated by my parents enough to stand that other day to ask for what I wanted.. The irony being both of them taught the same subject -Hindi(smiles) I have never written so much on Accessindia.(smiles). Aditi On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Ishita, where do you live? I think it may be a good idea for you and me to have a personal chat! We cant do everything, But let us talk over the phone soon? Send me your number OK? You are a very brave and daring young girl and also very intelegent. Life and the visually impaired world can benefit from all these good qualities! And old people like me can really do with your help. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:15 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear preety madam, We are enough motivated I guess. We all have accepted blindness. We all know what we can do and what we can’t. We all know what is situation and why. But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then optimistic talks I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work in banks for visually impaired. Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc. But this is not ideal job for us. There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can’t rely on somebody will come and will read out form for us. We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do everything mindset. I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing. And I am learning from the person like you. But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good at everything won’t work in real world. On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com nupur.j...@wipro.com wrote: Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our disability. If we are blind, so what? Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in life. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Aditi, that was a truly motivating mail. That is the way to go. When we face a problem, we have two option. 1. See the problem and bring our life to a stand still as if we are standing before an infinite wall 2. Recognise the problem and look for solutions. Many years ago I had read an article written by Sriram, a blind person who was at that time working with Infosys. He wrote and I quote We need to take responsibility for our lives Yes, no one else is answerable for our failures or can take credit for our success. We need to take responsibility for ourselves. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of aditi bhutani Sent: 04 July 2014 15:17 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners ishita, I am sure you will share your number with preeti. Regarding this discussion on passbook printing and account opening, would not have been taking place if there were no optimistic people (so many of them are here on the list itself), sitting in these bank jobs prooving their potential. I am dealing with close to hundered persons daily at my branch, things are never perfect but that is why there is room for improvement and motivation is what facilitates it. you are working with a call center and if you acquire professional skills of a voice trainer or other specialized tasks in the industry you will definitely rise in your career. If I am not wrong such work experience can give you jobs in the HR side of other firms as well. And are there not non-disabled people working with lesser paid jobs, they also have a potential but the same is underutilized in absence of the right motivation. Its a vicious circle which entangles us and we blame it to the society. The poor society is ignorant . Start telling them you can do it. My parents had requested my school teachers for large size question papers for me in my school days. It took a minute for this office boy to get it done and I used to wait for him after the exam started. In my class eightth , this teacher of mine came shouting and banging , why was the same done. Her words Who will give these question papers to you during your boards? When you have to fail then, why make this effort? The poor kid in me lost to her loud voice, but I stood again in the next exam to ask for the enlarged paper. I had scored highest marks in the non-disabled school out of a batch of 500 students in class twelvth boards not only because I could find another teacher who made sure to give me the required help at my little indication but because I was motivated by my parents enough to stand that other day to ask for what I wanted.. The irony being both of them taught the same subject -Hindi(smiles) I have never written so much on Accessindia.(smiles). Aditi On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Ishita, where do you live? I think it may be a good idea for you and me to have a personal chat! We cant do everything, But let us talk over the phone soon? Send me your number OK? You are a very brave and daring young girl and also very intelegent. Life and the visually impaired world can benefit from all these good qualities! And old people like me can really do with your help. Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:15 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear preety madam, We are enough motivated I guess. We all have accepted blindness. We all know what we can do and what we can’t. We all know what is situation and why. But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then optimistic talks I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work in banks for visually impaired. Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc. But this is not ideal job
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
in Mumbai so many blinds were got the job in banking sector. Such as probessionary officer clearical operator so on. I am unfortunate, don't have a cast certificate, lack of knowledge for giving the exams like PO and clearical. But only few blinds are succeed in it and there's performance also amazing. On 7/4/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: Dear preety madam, We are enough motivated I guess. We all have accepted blindness. We all know what we can do and what we can't. We all know what is situation and why. But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then optimistic talks I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work in banks for visually impaired. Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc. But this is not ideal job for us. There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can't rely on somebody will come and will read out form for us. We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do everything mindset. I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing. And I am learning from the person like you. But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good at everything won't work in real world. On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com nupur.j...@wipro.com wrote: Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our disability. If we are blind, so what? Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in life. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is real bad! We all are ourselves facing so many difficulties all the time. Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very upset? I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept what we are getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things be as they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to get better very very slowly! If we remain depressed and angry and disheartened, where will we find the courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation? That is why we need to motivate and encourage each other and together we can do something to make things better Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 1:29 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature. We visually impaired are getting jobs in government sectors mainly thanks to reservation. Though we are enough capable. There may be few individuals who have got jobs in private sectors. But such people can be counted by the tip of finger. Only capability is not enough to perform all tasks. Our offices and work profiles are 99 percent inaccessible for the blind. If a person from private sector wants to employ a blind person he will have to make his system up to the expectation for the blind And which is not always easy or possible. Only awareness can improve our circumstances On 7/4/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: I know Avinash, it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the female blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity of going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I can't even begin to write about their state! It has torne me apart! The female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind? Therefore, I have
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Greetings! Yes after qualifying ourselves adequately and greatly, we might get an opportunity to earn but proving ourselves to our work fellow that we are qualified is lifetime procedure. Nonetheless, it is almost difficult to prove that we deserve that job and pay to them On 7/3/14, Sameer sameer.la...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ishita, I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being completely blind will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other partially completely blind people working with the Reliance group in Mumbai. Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So, it is not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's blind employees adequately. I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ blind individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the blind individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their sighted counterparts. Regards Mr. Sameer Latey, Mumbai, India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Hey Ishita, Just because you think a particular job profile might be inaccessible or rather hard for a blind person does not imply that it will indeed be the case. Last month, I happened to attend a STEM access conference in Washington. Can you think of a blind civil engineer? Or, how about a blind chemist? Or even better, how about a blind surgeon? Sounds impossible, right. But, I met some people who are actually involved in these vocations, and are well-known in their field. They use some rather clever adaptations. The point that I'm trying to drive home is that with the evolution of technology, a lot is possible. You just need to explore alternate ways of doing things. It might be a little challenging first, but then, everything smoothens out. While I agree with Rajesh Sir that there's no point being overly optimistic, accepting something as impossible and being very pessimistic is also bad. I'm not being philosophical or optimistic here, but am rather quoting from experience and example. Also, quoting a line from your E-mail: we all know what we can do and what we can't Well, I don't really think so. There's much more than we think we can do. Sky is the limit, after all! We just need to come up with alternate ways and approaches. Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 (US), +91-9958499435 (India) E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com, karti...@stanford.edu Skype: kartik.sawhney22 On 7/4/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: Dear preety madam, We are enough motivated I guess. We all have accepted blindness. We all know what we can do and what we can't. We all know what is situation and why. But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then optimistic talks I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work in banks for visually impaired. Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc. But this is not ideal job for us. There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can't rely on somebody will come and will read out form for us. We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do everything mindset. I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing. And I am learning from the person like you. But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good at everything won't work in real world. On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com nupur.j...@wipro.com wrote: Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our disability. If we are blind, so what? Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in life. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is real bad! We all are ourselves facing so many difficulties all the time. Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very upset? I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept what we are getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things be as they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to get better very very slowly! If we remain depressed and angry and disheartened, where will we find the courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation? That is why we need to motivate and encourage each other and together we can do something to make things better Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of ishita kapoor Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 1:29 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I hate awe-inspiring talks which is not constructive in nature. We visually
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Very much true but unfortunately not really suited to Indian mentality! Indian mentality here represents the some total of whole Indian view points... - Original Message - From: Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Hey Ishita, Just because you think a particular job profile might be inaccessible or rather hard for a blind person does not imply that it will indeed be the case. Last month, I happened to attend a STEM access conference in Washington. Can you think of a blind civil engineer? Or, how about a blind chemist? Or even better, how about a blind surgeon? Sounds impossible, right. But, I met some people who are actually involved in these vocations, and are well-known in their field. They use some rather clever adaptations. The point that I'm trying to drive home is that with the evolution of technology, a lot is possible. You just need to explore alternate ways of doing things. It might be a little challenging first, but then, everything smoothens out. While I agree with Rajesh Sir that there's no point being overly optimistic, accepting something as impossible and being very pessimistic is also bad. I'm not being philosophical or optimistic here, but am rather quoting from experience and example. Also, quoting a line from your E-mail: we all know what we can do and what we can't Well, I don't really think so. There's much more than we think we can do. Sky is the limit, after all! We just need to come up with alternate ways and approaches. Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 (US), +91-9958499435 (India) E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com, karti...@stanford.edu Skype: kartik.sawhney22 On 7/4/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: Dear preety madam, We are enough motivated I guess. We all have accepted blindness. We all know what we can do and what we can't. We all know what is situation and why. But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then optimistic talks I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work in banks for visually impaired. Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc. But this is not ideal job for us. There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can't rely on somebody will come and will read out form for us. We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do everything mindset. I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing. And I am learning from the person like you. But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good at everything won't work in real world. On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com nupur.j...@wipro.com wrote: Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our disability. If we are blind, so what? Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in life. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is real bad! We all are ourselves facing so many difficulties all the time. Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very upset? I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept what we are getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things be as they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to get better very very slowly! If we remain depressed and angry and disheartened, where will we find the courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation? That is why we need to motivate and encourage each other and together we can do something to make things better Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Besides when we view things from our comfort zones they do look difficult and impossible. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor Sent: 04 July 2014 23:00 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Very much true but unfortunately not really suited to Indian mentality! Indian mentality here represents the some total of whole Indian view points... - Original Message - From: Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Hey Ishita, Just because you think a particular job profile might be inaccessible or rather hard for a blind person does not imply that it will indeed be the case. Last month, I happened to attend a STEM access conference in Washington. Can you think of a blind civil engineer? Or, how about a blind chemist? Or even better, how about a blind surgeon? Sounds impossible, right. But, I met some people who are actually involved in these vocations, and are well-known in their field. They use some rather clever adaptations. The point that I'm trying to drive home is that with the evolution of technology, a lot is possible. You just need to explore alternate ways of doing things. It might be a little challenging first, but then, everything smoothens out. While I agree with Rajesh Sir that there's no point being overly optimistic, accepting something as impossible and being very pessimistic is also bad. I'm not being philosophical or optimistic here, but am rather quoting from experience and example. Also, quoting a line from your E-mail: we all know what we can do and what we can't Well, I don't really think so. There's much more than we think we can do. Sky is the limit, after all! We just need to come up with alternate ways and approaches. Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 (US), +91-9958499435 (India) E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com, karti...@stanford.edu Skype: kartik.sawhney22 On 7/4/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: Dear preety madam, We are enough motivated I guess. We all have accepted blindness. We all know what we can do and what we can't. We all know what is situation and why. But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then optimistic talks I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work in banks for visually impaired. Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc. But this is not ideal job for us. There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can't rely on somebody will come and will read out form for us. We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do everything mindset. I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing. And I am learning from the person like you. But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good at everything won't work in real world. On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com nupur.j...@wipro.com wrote: Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our disability. If we are blind, so what? Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in life. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is real bad! We all are ourselves facing so many difficulties all the time. Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very upset? I know it is difficult, at times very difficult, to accept what we are getting. But, there are only 2 things we can do... 1 is to let things be as they are and probably let them become worse. 2 do something about the situation, to improve it. Do something, anything, it will only begin to get better very very slowly! If we remain depressed and angry and disheartened, where will we find the courage or the motivation to do something to improve our situation? That is why we need to motivate and encourage each other and together we can do something to make things better Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Hi, It's not about India or the US. it's about being able to do something or not. While I agree that we in India are not that open to allow a blind student to pursue medicine, for instance, it is we who have to bring this change. Who would have thought that blind students will study in the most prestigious B-schools in the country ten years ago? Who would have thought that the Indian Institutes of Technology will finally allow blind students to pursue Computer Science and Engineering courses? But, that's happened. There are over 15 students graduated or currently studying at IIMs. A year after I was suppose to take the JEE for admission to the IITs, IITs completed changed their rules, and have now made them disabled-friendly. So, things are slowly shaping up. I agree there is a lot of struggle involved, but if we don't give up, then I wouldn't be surprised if we have people pursuing medicine and whatnot in India too. Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 (US), +91-9958499435 (India) E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com, karti...@stanford.edu Skype: kartik.sawhney22 On 7/4/14, Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com wrote: Very much true but unfortunately not really suited to Indian mentality! Indian mentality here represents the some total of whole Indian view points... - Original Message - From: Kartik Sawhney sawhney.kar...@gmail.com To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Hey Ishita, Just because you think a particular job profile might be inaccessible or rather hard for a blind person does not imply that it will indeed be the case. Last month, I happened to attend a STEM access conference in Washington. Can you think of a blind civil engineer? Or, how about a blind chemist? Or even better, how about a blind surgeon? Sounds impossible, right. But, I met some people who are actually involved in these vocations, and are well-known in their field. They use some rather clever adaptations. The point that I'm trying to drive home is that with the evolution of technology, a lot is possible. You just need to explore alternate ways of doing things. It might be a little challenging first, but then, everything smoothens out. While I agree with Rajesh Sir that there's no point being overly optimistic, accepting something as impossible and being very pessimistic is also bad. I'm not being philosophical or optimistic here, but am rather quoting from experience and example. Also, quoting a line from your E-mail: we all know what we can do and what we can't Well, I don't really think so. There's much more than we think we can do. Sky is the limit, after all! We just need to come up with alternate ways and approaches. Best, -- -Kartik Sawhney, Cell: +1-(650) 492-3220 (US), +91-9958499435 (India) E-mail ID: sawhney.kar...@gmail.com, karti...@stanford.edu Skype: kartik.sawhney22 On 7/4/14, ishita kapoor ishitakapoor...@gmail.com wrote: Dear preety madam, We are enough motivated I guess. We all have accepted blindness. We all know what we can do and what we can't. We all know what is situation and why. But the situation will be improved by practical wisdom more then optimistic talks I read a discussion on facebook regarding difficulty of getting work in banks for visually impaired. Somebody suggested to print pass book, opening account etc. But this is not ideal job for us. There we have to deal with 100s of customers everyday. And we can't rely on somebody will come and will read out form for us. We need to find out suitable job profile in stead of we can do everything mindset. I am great admirer of your talent, skill, and way of writing. And I am learning from the person like you. But only positive thinking such as: we can do everything. We are good at everything won't work in real world. On 7/4/14, nupur.j...@wipro.com nupur.j...@wipro.com wrote: Above all we need to have a positive attitude towards ourselves and our disability. If we are blind, so what? Unless, we have a right attitude, we can not really achieve much in life. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Preeti Monga Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 2:00 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, Relax a little... we all know that the situation for visually impaired is real bad! We all are ourselves facing so many difficulties all the time. Remember you still have some vision, so why may I ask are you so very upset? I know
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Being blind is not the problem it is the perception and the understanding about blindness that is the problem. We need to work on the perceptions. Perception issues apply both to sighted people as well as blind people. It is perception that impacts the kind of education that we blind people have access to. It is perceptions that determines the way our parents respond to our blindness. It is perception that determines how the society responds to us. It is perception that defines how the Govt looks at us. I can go on. Hence we need to address the perception issues. Further the realities are known to us. We live in adynamic World and we , each of us are dynamites potentially. We can be the change. While we acknowledge the realities, our focus should be to be the change/make the change. The World can be a better place for all of us. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sameer Sent: 03 July 2014 12:47 To: Access India Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being completely blind will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other partially completely blind people working with the Reliance group in Mumbai. Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So, it is not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's blind employees adequately. I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ blind individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the blind individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their sighted counterparts. Regards Mr. Sameer Latey, Mumbai, India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessin dia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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Silver Linings has placed great blind candidates with companies like Microsoft and LPTI and other companies with salaries going into lacs! So dont get disheartened dear we do have disadvantages because we are blind, but that should only get us to explore our hidden potentials and achieve great hights! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sameer Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47 PM To: Access India Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being completely blind will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other partially completely blind people working with the Reliance group in Mumbai. Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So, it is not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's blind employees adequately. I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ blind individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the blind individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their sighted counterparts. Regards Mr. Sameer Latey, Mumbai, India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Dear samir sir, First of all congrats. Well, I never wanted to say that no blind is working or can’t work in private sector. There may be few lucky people like you who got such handsome salary. I also working with international call centre and was earning fine. Though I have left that job myself. But I joined that cc as a non disable. But if I ask another call centre to give me employment as a blind individual I would not get job easily, it doesn’t mean that I won’t get. But would face difficulty in convincing them I have learnt through mailing lists that blind persons are equally talented. But you will have to agree that very few people get proper job in private sector. On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Silver Linings has placed great blind candidates with companies like Microsoft and LPTI and other companies with salaries going into lacs! So dont get disheartened dear we do have disadvantages because we are blind, but that should only get us to explore our hidden potentials and achieve great hights! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sameer Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47 PM To: Access India Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being completely blind will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other partially completely blind people working with the Reliance group in Mumbai. Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So, it is not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's blind employees adequately. I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ blind individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the blind individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their sighted counterparts. Regards Mr. Sameer Latey, Mumbai, India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
I think it is high time issue of jobs for blind should be discussed and dwelled upon in detail. So thanks to Ishita for presenting this opportunity for serious consideration for me at least. As far as my reading of literature goes on the topic, it pains me to the core. According to one RTI response obtained from DOPT: ' Out of over 24 lakh employees belonging to Group A, B and C, the total number of persons employed from disabled category was merely 5,014 on January 1, 2012' (Yadav, Indian Express, 2013: 3 December) (http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/disabled-have-3--quota-in-govt-jobs-but-add-up-to-only-0.12-/1202425/). Further, Census 2001, NSSO 58 round 2002 and World Bank report on India 2007 categorically inform us that among disabled people employed with publick sector undertakings, the biggest share has gone to persons with locomotor disabilities. To make matter worse, from unofficial estimate, only 15% jobs in government sectors are identified for persons with disabilities, So you can simply surmise where are blind people stand today. Owing to paucity of time I should quickly critically comment on private sector and persons with disabilities. Since the neo-liberal dispensation has stretched its wings in Indian markets, jobs have accrued to a particular class. And the other class which comprises of a disabled living in the countryside, who struggles to boast English accent, finds it hard to buy computer/mobile what to speak of JAWS and Elliquence, has been hit hard. Like any other population group, , We blind people also belong to different hierarchical backgrounds. And Scheduled caste, scheduled tribes OBCs, and women representing herinabove mentioned categories among blind people are hardly found in private sector jobs. And majority of those who find jobs in NGOs working for/of blind, call-centres and manufacturing units, are least-paid and over-worked. So where we stand in private sector in general, I think nowhere. But one thing consoles me in India we are much better than America, UK and Australia. There unemployment rate of disabled is very high, and provision of monthly few hundred dollars/Great Britain Pound (GBP) without giving job is still a norm. But here in India, we're expected to work if we want to be paid. That's superb because what we aspire as human beings of course DIGNITY. Lastly, no quality study exists which has analysed the blind people's experiences at the workplace. Hope many of access Indians along with me would enter in to disability studies in future and contribute greatly to the literature which would guide the Indian State... On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Silver Linings has placed great blind candidates with companies like Microsoft and LPTI and other companies with salaries going into lacs! So dont get disheartened dear we do have disadvantages because we are blind, but that should only get us to explore our hidden potentials and achieve great hights! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sameer Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47 PM To: Access India Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being completely blind will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other partially completely blind people working with the Reliance group in Mumbai. Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So, it is not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's blind employees adequately. I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ blind individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the blind individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their sighted counterparts. Regards Mr. Sameer Latey, Mumbai, India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
I think the very fact we are all privilaged to be list members here, is good enough to tell us that we are the ones who need to take the responsibility of being that change that George has spoken about! Let us at least start to think on these lines and bring about small and big changes into our own perceptions first! This shall than become the start of a great revolution and slowly life will become more normal for the visually impaired! Warmly Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of George Abraham Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:12 PM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Being blind is not the problem it is the perception and the understanding about blindness that is the problem. We need to work on the perceptions. Perception issues apply both to sighted people as well as blind people. It is perception that impacts the kind of education that we blind people have access to. It is perceptions that determines the way our parents respond to our blindness. It is perception that determines how the society responds to us. It is perception that defines how the Govt looks at us. I can go on. Hence we need to address the perception issues. Further the realities are known to us. We live in adynamic World and we , each of us are dynamites potentially. We can be the change. While we acknowledge the realities, our focus should be to be the change/make the change. The World can be a better place for all of us. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sameer Sent: 03 July 2014 12:47 To: Access India Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being completely blind will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other partially completely blind people working with the Reliance group in Mumbai. Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the private sector (myself included) who are earning a good salary. So, it is not fair to generalise that the private sector does not pay it's blind employees adequately. I agree that the private sector employers are hesitant to employ blind individuals but there are some employers who are willing to give the blind individuals a chance to show that they can perform on par with their sighted counterparts. Regards Mr. Sameer Latey, Mumbai, India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessin dia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind ia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
Jobs come later. The primary need of the hour is good quality education and high quality rehab services in every district if not every town..! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 03 July 2014 14:45 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I think it is high time issue of jobs for blind should be discussed and dwelled upon in detail. So thanks to Ishita for presenting this opportunity for serious consideration for me at least. As far as my reading of literature goes on the topic, it pains me to the core. According to one RTI response obtained from DOPT: ' Out of over 24 lakh employees belonging to Group A, B and C, the total number of persons employed from disabled category was merely 5,014 on January 1, 2012' (Yadav, Indian Express, 2013: 3 December) (http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/disabled-have-3--quota-in-govt-jobs- but-add-up-to-only-0.12-/1202425/). Further, Census 2001, NSSO 58 round 2002 and World Bank report on India 2007 categorically inform us that among disabled people employed with publick sector undertakings, the biggest share has gone to persons with locomotor disabilities. To make matter worse, from unofficial estimate, only 15% jobs in government sectors are identified for persons with disabilities, So you can simply surmise where are blind people stand today. Owing to paucity of time I should quickly critically comment on private sector and persons with disabilities. Since the neo-liberal dispensation has stretched its wings in Indian markets, jobs have accrued to a particular class. And the other class which comprises of a disabled living in the countryside, who struggles to boast English accent, finds it hard to buy computer/mobile what to speak of JAWS and Elliquence, has been hit hard. Like any other population group, , We blind people also belong to different hierarchical backgrounds. And Scheduled caste, scheduled tribes OBCs, and women representing herinabove mentioned categories among blind people are hardly found in private sector jobs. And majority of those who find jobs in NGOs working for/of blind, call-centres and manufacturing units, are least-paid and over-worked. So where we stand in private sector in general, I think nowhere. But one thing consoles me in India we are much better than America, UK and Australia. There unemployment rate of disabled is very high, and provision of monthly few hundred dollars/Great Britain Pound (GBP) without giving job is still a norm. But here in India, we're expected to work if we want to be paid. That's superb because what we aspire as human beings of course DIGNITY. Lastly, no quality study exists which has analysed the blind people's experiences at the workplace. Hope many of access Indians along with me would enter in to disability studies in future and contribute greatly to the literature which would guide the Indian State... On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Silver Linings has placed great blind candidates with companies like Microsoft and LPTI and other companies with salaries going into lacs! So dont get disheartened dear we do have disadvantages because we are blind, but that should only get us to explore our hidden potentials and achieve great hights! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sameer Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47 PM To: Access India Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being completely blind will be joining them within a fortnight. I am also aware of other partially completely blind people working with the Reliance group in Mumbai. Regarding the salary earned by blind individuals in the private sector, the salary earned depends upon the individual's designation, capability qualifications. There are several list members who are employed in the private sector (myself included
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
You are right sir. But what about those persons with disabilities who are between 18 to 35 years of age,unemployed, unmarried, abandoned by families and invisible to the state? whom Cambridge based educationist Nidhi Singal has rightly termed: forgotten youth with disabilities. On 7/3/14, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote: Jobs come later. The primary need of the hour is good quality education and high quality rehab services in every district if not every town..! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 03 July 2014 14:45 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I think it is high time issue of jobs for blind should be discussed and dwelled upon in detail. So thanks to Ishita for presenting this opportunity for serious consideration for me at least. As far as my reading of literature goes on the topic, it pains me to the core. According to one RTI response obtained from DOPT: ' Out of over 24 lakh employees belonging to Group A, B and C, the total number of persons employed from disabled category was merely 5,014 on January 1, 2012' (Yadav, Indian Express, 2013: 3 December) (http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/disabled-have-3--quota-in-govt-jobs- but-add-up-to-only-0.12-/1202425/). Further, Census 2001, NSSO 58 round 2002 and World Bank report on India 2007 categorically inform us that among disabled people employed with publick sector undertakings, the biggest share has gone to persons with locomotor disabilities. To make matter worse, from unofficial estimate, only 15% jobs in government sectors are identified for persons with disabilities, So you can simply surmise where are blind people stand today. Owing to paucity of time I should quickly critically comment on private sector and persons with disabilities. Since the neo-liberal dispensation has stretched its wings in Indian markets, jobs have accrued to a particular class. And the other class which comprises of a disabled living in the countryside, who struggles to boast English accent, finds it hard to buy computer/mobile what to speak of JAWS and Elliquence, has been hit hard. Like any other population group, , We blind people also belong to different hierarchical backgrounds. And Scheduled caste, scheduled tribes OBCs, and women representing herinabove mentioned categories among blind people are hardly found in private sector jobs. And majority of those who find jobs in NGOs working for/of blind, call-centres and manufacturing units, are least-paid and over-worked. So where we stand in private sector in general, I think nowhere. But one thing consoles me in India we are much better than America, UK and Australia. There unemployment rate of disabled is very high, and provision of monthly few hundred dollars/Great Britain Pound (GBP) without giving job is still a norm. But here in India, we're expected to work if we want to be paid. That's superb because what we aspire as human beings of course DIGNITY. Lastly, no quality study exists which has analysed the blind people's experiences at the workplace. Hope many of access Indians along with me would enter in to disability studies in future and contribute greatly to the literature which would guide the Indian State... On 7/3/14, Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in wrote: Silver Linings has placed great blind candidates with companies like Microsoft and LPTI and other companies with salaries going into lacs! So dont get disheartened dear we do have disadvantages because we are blind, but that should only get us to explore our hidden potentials and achieve great hights! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sameer Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:47 PM To: Access India Subject: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners Dear Ishita, I have been selected by Reliance Industries Ltd. inspite of being completely blind will be joining
Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners
I know Avinash, it is very very sad. I do wish I could do something for them. Let us at least begin somewhere. And imagine the state of the female blind citizen in those circumstances? Lately I have had the opportunity of going from village to village in and around Delhi and UP and Haryana, I can't even begin to write about their state! It has torne me apart! The female is as it is in a horrendous state, imagine the ones who are blind? Therefore, I have decided to at least make a tiny beginning from wherever I can with the limited or should I say no resources! Let us all keep trying whatever we can do, and I am sure something somewhere will turn up and conditions will begin to improve! Preeti Preeti Monga Director Mobile: +91 9871701646 Landline: 011 22781446 E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:03 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners You are right sir. But what about those persons with disabilities who are between 18 to 35 years of age,unemployed, unmarried, abandoned by families and invisible to the state? whom Cambridge based educationist Nidhi Singal has rightly termed: forgotten youth with disabilities. On 7/3/14, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org wrote: Jobs come later. The primary need of the hour is good quality education and high quality rehab services in every district if not every town..! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 03 July 2014 14:45 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Reply to Ishita's mail regarding jobs for blind individuals - Re: my quriyocity are normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners I think it is high time issue of jobs for blind should be discussed and dwelled upon in detail. So thanks to Ishita for presenting this opportunity for serious consideration for me at least. As far as my reading of literature goes on the topic, it pains me to the core. According to one RTI response obtained from DOPT: ' Out of over 24 lakh employees belonging to Group A, B and C, the total number of persons employed from disabled category was merely 5,014 on January 1, 2012' (Yadav, Indian Express, 2013: 3 December) (http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/disabled-have-3--quota-in-govt-jobs- but-add-up-to-only-0.12-/1202425/). Further, Census 2001, NSSO 58 round 2002 and World Bank report on India 2007 categorically inform us that among disabled people employed with publick sector undertakings, the biggest share has gone to persons with locomotor disabilities. To make matter worse, from unofficial estimate, only 15% jobs in government sectors are identified for persons with disabilities, So you can simply surmise where are blind people stand today. Owing to paucity of time I should quickly critically comment on private sector and persons with disabilities. Since the neo-liberal dispensation has stretched its wings in Indian markets, jobs have accrued to a particular class. And the other class which comprises of a disabled living in the countryside, who struggles to boast English accent, finds it hard to buy computer/mobile what to speak of JAWS and Elliquence, has been hit hard. Like any other population group, , We blind people also belong to different hierarchical backgrounds. And Scheduled caste, scheduled tribes OBCs, and women representing herinabove mentioned categories among blind people are hardly found in private sector jobs. And majority of those who find jobs in NGOs working for/of blind, call-centres and manufacturing units, are least-paid and over-worked. So where we stand in private sector in general, I think nowhere. But one thing consoles me in India we are much better than America, UK and Australia. There unemployment rate of disabled is very high, and provision of monthly few hundred dollars/Great Britain Pound (GBP) without giving job is still a norm. But here in India, we're expected to work if we want to be paid. That's superb because what we aspire as human beings of course DIGNITY. Lastly
