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Indeed! I know JAWS command very well but not all special symbols are enlisted there. A small clarification: To be able to use the calculator application to make it produce the results suggested by Umesha, your calculator application should first be set to programmer view and by default, it is always set to standard mode unless you ever changed, it in which case F5F6F7F8 commands will not work. To change the mode of calculator, press alt+1 for standard, alt+2 for scientific and alt+3 for programmer view. Thanks, I now rest my case here. - Original Message - From: Umesha S E To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma Vikas Kapoor The symbols single dagger and double dagger can be produced by jaws using the shortcut insert + 4 in any application including notepad. Don’t know about others you have typed. I think you won’t need to use them in other applications quite often. If it is not the case, you may copy and paste from MS word. Him Prasad Gautam We can use normal numpads. But compact ones are very difficult to use. Vyas Gajendra It is (16 × 15) + 15 = 255 Calculator is an application provided in all versions of windows which is very much accessible. You can open calculator through start menu programs and accessories. By default, the calculator will be in decimal mode. You can change the mode by pressing keys f5, f6, f7, or f8. Along with changing the mode, it will change the typed number to respective number system. Umesha On 2/1/16, sanjay wrote: > I also used alt+numpad 246 to type divided by sign while submitting math > assignments to Hadley school. > > - Original Message - > From: "Vikas Kapoor" > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > thedisabled." > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 8:34 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma > > >> Dear Umesha, >> >> On some occasions, we need to write some characters which can't be written >> >> by using the regular keyboard (or I don't know how to write them), and to >> be able to put them at the appropriate places,, by typing the decimal >> numbers followed by the command, the code automatically converts that to >> the correct letters. For example, you type the code in the word >> application and press Alt+X and the code will then convert it to the >> letter or symbol whatever the case. In the next line I'm giving some >> examples of those characters, which I generated by applying the above >> mentioned command in the word application. >> >> • „ ‟ ‡ †․ ≶ ≹ >> >> ‴ ‶ ‵ ′ ″ >> >> Thanks. >> >> - Original Message ----- >> From: Umesha S E >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerningthe disabled. >> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma >> >> >> Nice explanation by Him Prasad Gautam. >> In addition, if you want to convert between these 2 systems, you can >> use windows calculator. Type the decimal number into calculator, >> select the hex radio button (shortcut key is F5). The calculator >> displays the converted number. To convert back, type hexadecimal >> number when in hex mode and choose decimal radio button (shortcut f6). >> >> “Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal characters to >> letters >> in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?” >> I could not understand. Can you elaborate? >> >> I don’t know any solution for other programs like notepad. Perhaps you >> can convert it in word and copy it into notepad as there will be rare >> occasions where you need such things. If you tell your exact problem, >> we can find proper solution. >> >> “While JAWS, by default gives the result in decimal.” >> I don’t use jaws method of creating characters and don’t know how to >> convert it to hexadecimal. If you are facing problem in any specific >> situation and explain it, we can find alternatives. >> >> Umesha >> >> >> >> On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: >> > Thanks Gautam for having explained these values in detail as usual in >> your >> > case. Do you know any command through which if we type the decimal >> letters >> > and it presents in a character form as it happens with Alt+NumPad keys. >> >> I'm >> > askin
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Vikas Kapoor The symbols single dagger and double dagger can be produced by jaws using the shortcut insert + 4 in any application including notepad. Don’t know about others you have typed. I think you won’t need to use them in other applications quite often. If it is not the case, you may copy and paste from MS word. Him Prasad Gautam We can use normal numpads. But compact ones are very difficult to use. Vyas Gajendra It is (16 × 15) + 15 = 255 Calculator is an application provided in all versions of windows which is very much accessible. You can open calculator through start menu programs and accessories. By default, the calculator will be in decimal mode. You can change the mode by pressing keys f5, f6, f7, or f8. Along with changing the mode, it will change the typed number to respective number system. Umesha On 2/1/16, sanjay wrote: > I also used alt+numpad 246 to type divided by sign while submitting math > assignments to Hadley school. > > - Original Message - > From: "Vikas Kapoor" > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > thedisabled." > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 8:34 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma > > >> Dear Umesha, >> >> On some occasions, we need to write some characters which can't be written >> >> by using the regular keyboard (or I don't know how to write them), and to >> be able to put them at the appropriate places,, by typing the decimal >> numbers followed by the command, the code automatically converts that to >> the correct letters. For example, you type the code in the word >> application and press Alt+X and the code will then convert it to the >> letter or symbol whatever the case. In the next line I'm giving some >> examples of those characters, which I generated by applying the above >> mentioned command in the word application. >> >> • „ ‟ ‡ †․ ≶ ≹ >> >> ‴ ‶ ‵ ′ ″ >> >> Thanks. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Umesha S E >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerningthe disabled. >> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma >> >> >> Nice explanation by Him Prasad Gautam. >> In addition, if you want to convert between these 2 systems, you can >> use windows calculator. Type the decimal number into calculator, >> select the hex radio button (shortcut key is F5). The calculator >> displays the converted number. To convert back, type hexadecimal >> number when in hex mode and choose decimal radio button (shortcut f6). >> >> “Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal characters to >> letters >> in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?” >> I could not understand. Can you elaborate? >> >> I don’t know any solution for other programs like notepad. Perhaps you >> can convert it in word and copy it into notepad as there will be rare >> occasions where you need such things. If you tell your exact problem, >> we can find proper solution. >> >> “While JAWS, by default gives the result in decimal.” >> I don’t use jaws method of creating characters and don’t know how to >> convert it to hexadecimal. If you are facing problem in any specific >> situation and explain it, we can find alternatives. >> >> Umesha >> >> >> >> On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: >> > Thanks Gautam for having explained these values in detail as usual in >> your >> > case. Do you know any command through which if we type the decimal >> letters >> > and it presents in a character form as it happens with Alt+NumPad keys. >> >> I'm >> > asking this because if they've provided such option with NumPad, then >> why >> > should the people without this pad be left at disadvantaged? >> > - Original Message - >> > From: Him Prasad Gautam >> > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> > concerningthe disabled. >> > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM >> > Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma >> > >> > >> > hi, >> > Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically >> > assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the >> > basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are >> > two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider >> as >> > two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight
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I also used alt+numpad 246 to type divided by sign while submitting math assignments to Hadley school. - Original Message - From: "Vikas Kapoor" To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled." Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma Dear Umesha, On some occasions, we need to write some characters which can't be written by using the regular keyboard (or I don't know how to write them), and to be able to put them at the appropriate places,, by typing the decimal numbers followed by the command, the code automatically converts that to the correct letters. For example, you type the code in the word application and press Alt+X and the code will then convert it to the letter or symbol whatever the case. In the next line I'm giving some examples of those characters, which I generated by applying the above mentioned command in the word application. • „ ‟ ‡ †․ ≶ ≹ ‴ ‶ ‵ ′ ″ Thanks. - Original Message - From: Umesha S E To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma Nice explanation by Him Prasad Gautam. In addition, if you want to convert between these 2 systems, you can use windows calculator. Type the decimal number into calculator, select the hex radio button (shortcut key is F5). The calculator displays the converted number. To convert back, type hexadecimal number when in hex mode and choose decimal radio button (shortcut f6). “Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?” I could not understand. Can you elaborate? I don’t know any solution for other programs like notepad. Perhaps you can convert it in word and copy it into notepad as there will be rare occasions where you need such things. If you tell your exact problem, we can find proper solution. “While JAWS, by default gives the result in decimal.” I don’t use jaws method of creating characters and don’t know how to convert it to hexadecimal. If you are facing problem in any specific situation and explain it, we can find alternatives. Umesha On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > Thanks Gautam for having explained these values in detail as usual in your > case. Do you know any command through which if we type the decimal letters > and it presents in a character form as it happens with Alt+NumPad keys. I'm > asking this because if they've provided such option with NumPad, then why > should the people without this pad be left at disadvantaged? > - Original Message - > From: Him Prasad Gautam > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled. > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma > > > hi, > Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically > assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the > basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are > two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as > two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight. > In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice, > the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number > are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. > There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than > nine is expressed by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10! >In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers. > they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not > considered as alphabets of English but the numeric expression larger > than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and > so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by > the digital symbol 0 to f i.e. sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen > as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!! > In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4 > 5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0 > i.e. eight is written as 1 0! > Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only > two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three > as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0! > Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system! > It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal > system. 1 0 0 represents as 256. > Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the > capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it &
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hi umesh, how do you select window calculator, f5 or f6 ? please provide keys for that . gajendra vyas - Original Message - From: "Umesha S E" To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled." Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma Nice explanation by Him Prasad Gautam. In addition, if you want to convert between these 2 systems, you can use windows calculator. Type the decimal number into calculator, select the hex radio button (shortcut key is F5). The calculator displays the converted number. To convert back, type hexadecimal number when in hex mode and choose decimal radio button (shortcut f6). “Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?” I could not understand. Can you elaborate? I don’t know any solution for other programs like notepad. Perhaps you can convert it in word and copy it into notepad as there will be rare occasions where you need such things. If you tell your exact problem, we can find proper solution. “While JAWS, by default gives the result in decimal.” I don’t use jaws method of creating characters and don’t know how to convert it to hexadecimal. If you are facing problem in any specific situation and explain it, we can find alternatives. Umesha On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: Thanks Gautam for having explained these values in detail as usual in your case. Do you know any command through which if we type the decimal letters and it presents in a character form as it happens with Alt+NumPad keys. I'm asking this because if they've provided such option with NumPad, then why should the people without this pad be left at disadvantaged? - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma hi, Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight. In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice, the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than nine is expressed by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10! In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers. they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not considered as alphabets of English but the numeric expression larger than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by the digital symbol 0 to f i.e. sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!! In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0 i.e. eight is written as 1 0! Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0! Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system! It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal system. 1 0 0 represents as 256. Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it produced the small letter f which its character code. There are formulas to convert the decimal figure to hexadecimal or octagonal or binary figures and vice versa. For further information, please study the fundamentals of computer or numerical science related literature's. On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > Hi Umesh, what is the difference between decimal and hexadecimal > representation? Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal > characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop? The > Alt+X command is applicable only for the word programme, what if the code is > to be converted into a letter in notepad? Even in the word programme also, > it gives only in hexadecimal while JAWS, by default gives the result in > decimal. > - Original Message - > From: Umesha S E > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled. > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:39 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma > > > Hi, > 66 for capital B is decimal code. 66 for small f is
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ih gautamaji , In hexadecimal system , how 255 is ff, is it 15+15 or15*15 ? gajendra vyas phone : 079-30127030 mobile : 09427065866 - Original Message - From: "Him Prasad Gautam" To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled." Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma hi, Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight. In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice, the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than nine is expressed by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10! In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers. they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not considered as alphabets of English but the numeric expression larger than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by the digital symbol 0 to f i.e. sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!! In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0 i.e. eight is written as 1 0! Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0! Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system! It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal system. 1 0 0 represents as 256. Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it produced the small letter f which its character code. There are formulas to convert the decimal figure to hexadecimal or octagonal or binary figures and vice versa. For further information, please study the fundamentals of computer or numerical science related literature's. On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: Hi Umesh, what is the difference between decimal and hexadecimal representation? Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop? The Alt+X command is applicable only for the word programme, what if the code is to be converted into a letter in notepad? Even in the word programme also, it gives only in hexadecimal while JAWS, by default gives the result in decimal. - Original Message - From: Umesha S E To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma Hi, 66 for capital B is decimal code. 66 for small f is hexodecimal code. use which one you want. usually, unicode characters are represented in hexodecimal mode. to get the code for a character spoken by jaws, move the cursor to it, press numpad 5 thrice quickly. it can give you decimal or hexodecimal value based on your jaws configuration. to change it, go to configuration manager, go to graphics and symbols, check the "speak the character codes in hex" checkbox. Umesha On 1/30/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > Folks, > A very strange dilemma regarding typing the Unicode characters I found: > While pressing alt followed by numbers on the NumPad gives one result, and > pressing the numbers on the regular number row followed by alt+X in the word > application gives another result. For example, while pressing Alt+66 on the > NumPad gives the Unicode character result as capital B, and on the other > hand pressing 66 followed by Alt+X gives the result as lower f. So, my > dilemma is which one to follow? In other words, which one is the correct > representation of the Unicode character? > Vikas Kapoor, > Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994 > Skype Id: dl_vikas > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/list
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Dear Umesha, On some occasions, we need to write some characters which can't be written by using the regular keyboard (or I don't know how to write them), and to be able to put them at the appropriate places,, by typing the decimal numbers followed by the command, the code automatically converts that to the correct letters. For example, you type the code in the word application and press Alt+X and the code will then convert it to the letter or symbol whatever the case. In the next line I'm giving some examples of those characters, which I generated by applying the above mentioned command in the word application. • „ ‟ ‡ †․ ≶ ≹ ‴ ‶ ‵ ′ ″ Thanks. - Original Message - From: Umesha S E To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma Nice explanation by Him Prasad Gautam. In addition, if you want to convert between these 2 systems, you can use windows calculator. Type the decimal number into calculator, select the hex radio button (shortcut key is F5). The calculator displays the converted number. To convert back, type hexadecimal number when in hex mode and choose decimal radio button (shortcut f6). “Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?” I could not understand. Can you elaborate? I don’t know any solution for other programs like notepad. Perhaps you can convert it in word and copy it into notepad as there will be rare occasions where you need such things. If you tell your exact problem, we can find proper solution. “While JAWS, by default gives the result in decimal.” I don’t use jaws method of creating characters and don’t know how to convert it to hexadecimal. If you are facing problem in any specific situation and explain it, we can find alternatives. Umesha On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > Thanks Gautam for having explained these values in detail as usual in your > case. Do you know any command through which if we type the decimal letters > and it presents in a character form as it happens with Alt+NumPad keys. I'm > asking this because if they've provided such option with NumPad, then why > should the people without this pad be left at disadvantaged? > - Original Message - > From: Him Prasad Gautam > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled. > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma > > > hi, > Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically > assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the > basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are > two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as > two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight. > In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice, > the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number > are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. > There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than > nine is expressed by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10! >In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers. > they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not > considered as alphabets of English but the numeric expression larger > than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and > so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by > the digital symbol 0 to f i.e. sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen > as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!! > In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4 > 5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0 > i.e. eight is written as 1 0! > Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only > two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three > as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0! > Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system! > It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal > system. 1 0 0 represents as 256. > Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the > capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it > produced the small letter f which its character code. There are > formulas to convert the decimal figure to hexadecimal or octagonal or > binary figures and vice versa. >For further information, please study the fundamentals of computer or > numerical scienc
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hi, Every keyboard comes with num pad facility. Some are extended and some are compact In compact, you have to enable them via function keys. You can directly use hexadecimal to decimal or vice versa conversion formula. On 2/1/16, Umesha S E wrote: > Nice explanation by Him Prasad Gautam. > In addition, if you want to convert between these 2 systems, you can > use windows calculator. Type the decimal number into calculator, > select the hex radio button (shortcut key is F5). The calculator > displays the converted number. To convert back, type hexadecimal > number when in hex mode and choose decimal radio button (shortcut f6). > > “Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal characters to > letters > in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?” > I could not understand. Can you elaborate? > > I don’t know any solution for other programs like notepad. Perhaps you > can convert it in word and copy it into notepad as there will be rare > occasions where you need such things. If you tell your exact problem, > we can find proper solution. > > “While JAWS, by default gives the result in decimal.” > I don’t use jaws method of creating characters and don’t know how to > convert it to hexadecimal. If you are facing problem in any specific > situation and explain it, we can find alternatives. > > Umesha > > > > On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: >> Thanks Gautam for having explained these values in detail as usual in your >> case. Do you know any command through which if we type the decimal letters >> and it presents in a character form as it happens with Alt+NumPad keys. >> I'm >> asking this because if they've provided such option with NumPad, then why >> should the people without this pad be left at disadvantaged? >> - Original Message - >> From: Him Prasad Gautam >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerningthe disabled. >> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma >> >> >> hi, >> Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically >> assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the >> basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are >> two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as >> two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight. >> In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice, >> the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number >> are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. >> There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than >> nine is expressed by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10! >>In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers. >> they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not >> considered as alphabets of English but the numeric expression larger >> than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and >> so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by >> the digital symbol 0 to f i.e. sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen >> as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!! >> In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4 >> 5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0 >> i.e. eight is written as 1 0! >> Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only >> two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three >> as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0! >> Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system! >> It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal >> system. 1 0 0 represents as 256. >> Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the >> capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it >> produced the small letter f which its character code. There are >> formulas to convert the decimal figure to hexadecimal or octagonal or >> binary figures and vice versa. >>For further information, please study the fundamentals of computer or >> numerical science related literature's. >> >> On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: >> > Hi Umesh, what is the difference between decimal and hexadecimal >> > representation? Further, what is the precise way to convert the >> decimal >> > characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop? >> The >> > Alt+X command is applicable only for the word programme, what if th
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Nice explanation by Him Prasad Gautam. In addition, if you want to convert between these 2 systems, you can use windows calculator. Type the decimal number into calculator, select the hex radio button (shortcut key is F5). The calculator displays the converted number. To convert back, type hexadecimal number when in hex mode and choose decimal radio button (shortcut f6). “Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?” I could not understand. Can you elaborate? I don’t know any solution for other programs like notepad. Perhaps you can convert it in word and copy it into notepad as there will be rare occasions where you need such things. If you tell your exact problem, we can find proper solution. “While JAWS, by default gives the result in decimal.” I don’t use jaws method of creating characters and don’t know how to convert it to hexadecimal. If you are facing problem in any specific situation and explain it, we can find alternatives. Umesha On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > Thanks Gautam for having explained these values in detail as usual in your > case. Do you know any command through which if we type the decimal letters > and it presents in a character form as it happens with Alt+NumPad keys. I'm > asking this because if they've provided such option with NumPad, then why > should the people without this pad be left at disadvantaged? > - Original Message - > From: Him Prasad Gautam > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled. > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma > > > hi, > Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically > assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the > basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are > two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as > two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight. > In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice, > the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number > are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. > There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than > nine is expressed by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10! >In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers. > they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not > considered as alphabets of English but the numeric expression larger > than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and > so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by > the digital symbol 0 to f i.e. sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen > as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!! > In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4 > 5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0 > i.e. eight is written as 1 0! > Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only > two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three > as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0! > Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system! > It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal > system. 1 0 0 represents as 256. > Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the > capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it > produced the small letter f which its character code. There are > formulas to convert the decimal figure to hexadecimal or octagonal or > binary figures and vice versa. >For further information, please study the fundamentals of computer or > numerical science related literature's. > > On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > > Hi Umesh, what is the difference between decimal and hexadecimal > > representation? Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal > > characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop? > The > > Alt+X command is applicable only for the word programme, what if the > code is > > to be converted into a letter in notepad? Even in the word programme > also, > > it gives only in hexadecimal while JAWS, by default gives the result in > > decimal. > > - Original Message - > > From: Umesha S E > > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > > concerningthe disabled. > > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:39 AM > > Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma > > > > > > Hi, > > 66 for capital B is decimal code. 66 for small f is hexodecimal code. &g
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Thanks Gautam for having explained these values in detail as usual in your case. Do you know any command through which if we type the decimal letters and it presents in a character form as it happens with Alt+NumPad keys. I'm asking this because if they've provided such option with NumPad, then why should the people without this pad be left at disadvantaged? - Original Message - From: Him Prasad Gautam To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma hi, Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight. In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice, the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than nine is expressed by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10! In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers. they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not considered as alphabets of English but the numeric expression larger than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by the digital symbol 0 to f i.e. sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!! In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0 i.e. eight is written as 1 0! Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0! Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system! It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal system. 1 0 0 represents as 256. Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it produced the small letter f which its character code. There are formulas to convert the decimal figure to hexadecimal or octagonal or binary figures and vice versa. For further information, please study the fundamentals of computer or numerical science related literature's. On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > Hi Umesh, what is the difference between decimal and hexadecimal > representation? Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal > characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop? The > Alt+X command is applicable only for the word programme, what if the code is > to be converted into a letter in notepad? Even in the word programme also, > it gives only in hexadecimal while JAWS, by default gives the result in > decimal. > - Original Message - > From: Umesha S E > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled. > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:39 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma > > > Hi, > 66 for capital B is decimal code. 66 for small f is hexodecimal code. > use which one you want. usually, unicode characters are represented in > hexodecimal mode. to get the code for a character spoken by jaws, move > the cursor to it, press numpad 5 thrice quickly. it can give you > decimal or hexodecimal value based on your jaws configuration. to > change it, go to configuration manager, go to graphics and symbols, > check the "speak the character codes in hex" checkbox. > > Umesha > > On 1/30/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > > Folks, > > A very strange dilemma regarding typing the Unicode characters I found: > > While pressing alt followed by numbers on the NumPad gives one result, > and > > pressing the numbers on the regular number row followed by alt+X in the > word > > application gives another result. For example, while pressing Alt+66 on > the > > NumPad gives the Unicode character result as capital B, and on the > other > > hand pressing 66 followed by Alt+X gives the result as lower f. So, my > > dilemma is which one to follow? In other words, which one is the > correct > > representation of the Unicode character? > > Vikas Kapoor, > > Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994 > > Skype Id: dl_vikas > > > >
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hi, Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight. In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice, the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9. There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than nine is expressed by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10! In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers. they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not considered as alphabets of English but the numeric expression larger than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by the digital symbol 0 to f i.e. sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!! In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0 i.e. eight is written as 1 0! Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0! Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system! It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal system. 1 0 0 represents as 256. Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it produced the small letter f which its character code. There are formulas to convert the decimal figure to hexadecimal or octagonal or binary figures and vice versa. For further information, please study the fundamentals of computer or numerical science related literature's. On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > Hi Umesh, what is the difference between decimal and hexadecimal > representation? Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal > characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop? The > Alt+X command is applicable only for the word programme, what if the code is > to be converted into a letter in notepad? Even in the word programme also, > it gives only in hexadecimal while JAWS, by default gives the result in > decimal. > - Original Message - > From: Umesha S E > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled. > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:39 AM > Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma > > > Hi, > 66 for capital B is decimal code. 66 for small f is hexodecimal code. > use which one you want. usually, unicode characters are represented in > hexodecimal mode. to get the code for a character spoken by jaws, move > the cursor to it, press numpad 5 thrice quickly. it can give you > decimal or hexodecimal value based on your jaws configuration. to > change it, go to configuration manager, go to graphics and symbols, > check the "speak the character codes in hex" checkbox. > > Umesha > > On 1/30/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > > Folks, > > A very strange dilemma regarding typing the Unicode characters I found: > > While pressing alt followed by numbers on the NumPad gives one result, > and > > pressing the numbers on the regular number row followed by alt+X in the > word > > application gives another result. For example, while pressing Alt+66 on > the > > NumPad gives the Unicode character result as capital B, and on the > other > > hand pressing 66 followed by Alt+X gives the result as lower f. So, my > > dilemma is which one to follow? In other words, which one is the > correct > > representation of the Unicode character? > > Vikas Kapoor, > > Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994 > > Skype Id: dl_vikas > > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility > of > > mobile phones / Tabs on: > > > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > > > Search for old postings at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to > > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > > with the subject unsubscribe. > > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > > visit the list home page at > > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > &
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Hi Umesh, what is the difference between decimal and hexadecimal representation? Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop? The Alt+X command is applicable only for the word programme, what if the code is to be converted into a letter in notepad? Even in the word programme also, it gives only in hexadecimal while JAWS, by default gives the result in decimal. - Original Message - From: Umesha S E To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma Hi, 66 for capital B is decimal code. 66 for small f is hexodecimal code. use which one you want. usually, unicode characters are represented in hexodecimal mode. to get the code for a character spoken by jaws, move the cursor to it, press numpad 5 thrice quickly. it can give you decimal or hexodecimal value based on your jaws configuration. to change it, go to configuration manager, go to graphics and symbols, check the "speak the character codes in hex" checkbox. Umesha On 1/30/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > Folks, > A very strange dilemma regarding typing the Unicode characters I found: > While pressing alt followed by numbers on the NumPad gives one result, and > pressing the numbers on the regular number row followed by alt+X in the word > application gives another result. For example, while pressing Alt+66 on the > NumPad gives the Unicode character result as capital B, and on the other > hand pressing 66 followed by Alt+X gives the result as lower f. So, my > dilemma is which one to follow? In other words, which one is the correct > representation of the Unicode character? > Vikas Kapoor, > Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994 > Skype Id: dl_vikas > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
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Hi, 66 for capital B is decimal code. 66 for small f is hexodecimal code. use which one you want. usually, unicode characters are represented in hexodecimal mode. to get the code for a character spoken by jaws, move the cursor to it, press numpad 5 thrice quickly. it can give you decimal or hexodecimal value based on your jaws configuration. to change it, go to configuration manager, go to graphics and symbols, check the "speak the character codes in hex" checkbox. Umesha On 1/30/16, Vikas Kapoor wrote: > Folks, > A very strange dilemma regarding typing the Unicode characters I found: > While pressing alt followed by numbers on the NumPad gives one result, and > pressing the numbers on the regular number row followed by alt+X in the word > application gives another result. For example, while pressing Alt+66 on the > NumPad gives the Unicode character result as capital B, and on the other > hand pressing 66 followed by Alt+X gives the result as lower f. So, my > dilemma is which one to follow? In other words, which one is the correct > representation of the Unicode character? > Vikas Kapoor, > Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994 > Skype Id: dl_vikas > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..