Re: [ActiveDir] Sysvol and AV exclusions

2005-09-15 Thread Mark Parris
The only product I have seen the full exclusion capabilities in, is Mcafee; 
from ePO this can all be configured centrally. With symantec, paths and file 
types can be excluded centrally, but the actual files have to be configured 
manually on every DC, thus leading to more donkey work and an increased scope 
for error. The only other quirk with symantec is that it does not allow for 
future files, that is if its not there, you can't exclude it. This was the 
case up until version 9, 10 I have yet to see. All that being said, there is an 
unsupported hack available from symantec to enable the centralised mgmt.

Mark


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From: Tony Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:09:18 
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Sysvol and AV exclusions

Ah, you mean my expectations are too high.  :-)

As an illustration of the problem, I have attached a screenshot from
CA's eTrust AV product.  I'm not familiar with the product (nor do I
wish to be), but from a quick look it does not appear possible to set
the exclsions according to the 822158 article.  Apart from the potential
issue of only being able to specify a maximum of 16 paths for exclusion,
the real problem is the inability to include subfolders of folders that
have been excluded.

I would imagine that a reasonable percentage of the installed base of AD
uses CA's product.  We're probably talking 10s of thousands of
organisations worldwide.  Our local CA representative was unable to
provide a CA recommendation for the exclusion list and suggested we
refer to Microsoft's best practices. 

I guess I'm going to have to come up with a best efforts compromise
configuration, combining the recommendations in the 822158 article and
the capabilities of the CA product. 

Tony
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You obviously haven't dealt with the Exchange Team enough. 

:-)

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Hi Brett

Thanks for your detailed response.  I see you've also managed to sort
out the formatting of the table in the article.  Oh, what power you
wield! :-)

The main issue I have is that the article introduces some new
exclusions.  I don't think I'm alone in thinking that the general
approach before this article came out was, If your AV product is
FRS-compliant then include SYSVOL in scans..  I am fully aware of the
effects of a virus being replicated by SYSVOL, having seen it
first-hand.  SYSVOL does a great job of moving a virus around a network
very quickly. :-)  So it's important to scan SYSVOL (or at least parts
thereof).

Going back to the issue, the 822158 article sets out exclusions, but
doesn't indicate why they should be exlcuded.  In other words, what is
the risk of including them?  This is relevant for at least one major AV
product vendor, which has a (somewhat stupid) low limit on the number of
files and folders that can be excluded on any one server.  I'm also not
convinced that the AV product I'm thinking of can perform the level of
granularity of inclusion/exclusion suggested in the table.

I can sort of understand why the staging areas would be excluded
(compressed files, possibility of locking), but why exclude
%systemroot%\sysvol and %systemroot%\sysvol\sysvol?  I can't see
anything in my test environment that would pose any problems by scanning
these folders.

Call me a control freak, but I just don't like seeing a statement such
as, Do not scan the following files and folders. with no additional
explanation.

Tony

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The articles should not be inconsistent.
The 822158 does mention 814263 (see bullet 2).

284947 - is how to detect and diagnose excessive FRS replication.
Noting it might be caused by Anti-Virus software.  And mentioning how to
recover.  
It is not SYSVOL specific, it is FRS specific.  But sincej SYSVOL is an
FRS share, so it applies to SYSVOL, if this should happen to your
SYSVOL.

814263 - is about Anti-Virus programs that are compatible with FRS from
a generic sense.  Againt not SYSVOL specific, FRS specific.  You will
want one of these programs to continue on with your configuration of
your DC's Anti-Virus program with 822158.

822158 - Is the penultimate article for DCs and anti-virus software. You
need to scroll over the very poorly formatted table, near the end.  
You'll note some part of the sysvol folder, are to be scanned and other
parts are excluded.  

RE: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question

2005-09-15 Thread jpsalemi
Hi Noah..

I have not tested with SP2, but the hotfix is part of SP2.  I did test it
on SP1 with the patch.  The patch did not create the keys either.  You need
to do it manually.

All of what they said I did find to work correctly with the additon of the
reg keys.  It still isn't close to being perfect, but it will help some.
Makes it a bit more usable.

John




   
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Hi -

Re: SP2. The hotfix does not run against SP2 machines. The KB says the
issues were resolved in SP2 (hence, no need for the hotfix). However, I
found that the NetCache subkeys ExclusionErrorSuppressionList do not seem
to
exist. I am able to create the other keys mentioned in the KB (for primary
users and admin pinning).

Has anyone gotten the suprression list working in SP2? Do you just create
those subkeys?

-- nme

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 Oh very nice -- thanks for the info!

 steve

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  You can work around it, not really an easy fix though.
 
  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811660
 
 
 
 
 
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  This is by design (albeit bad IMO)
 
  IIRC this wont occur if  3 or fewer profiles sync , due to design.
 
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  Subject: [ActiveDir] Offline Files Question
 
  Hi -
 
  Configuraiton: All users have their My Documents redirected
 to network
  shares. All XP (and most 2000) users have My Documents set
 to synchronize
  Offline Files. All are set to synchronize at log on and log off.
 
  Many users have complained that when they log off, they see
 not only their
  files synchronize but also the files of other users who
 have user profiles
  on that machine. Often they will get permissions errors on the other
  users' files since the home directories are secured as per
 MSKB 274443.
  This is a hassle because it stalls at the end of the sync
 (waiting to have
  someone acknowledge the error) and because it takes so long.
 
  Is this behaviour as expected? Why is it synchronizing
 other users' files?
  Is there a way to prevent this?
 
  Thanks.
 
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[ActiveDir] Root Domain on W2K3 SP1 and Child not

2005-09-15 Thread Simpsen, Paul A. \(HSC\)








First off thanks for all the info Ive soaked in. Ive
hung in the background for a few years and have tried to soak it all intried I said! Quick question = we
are running Function level W2K3 with a root domain and 2 child domains. We have
yet to install SP1 but plan on it this weekend. With 1 of the child domains we
see the possibility of some problems due to old HW so we want to postpone SP1
on that child until we refresh the 9 DCs with new HW. We should have
this done in the next 30 days or so. In the meantime we are still planning to
roll out SP1 to the other child and to the root. I dont see any problems
with this plan and have found nothing in MY searches to scare us off. Can there
be issues with this config? I know it is not optimal but any big issues to
worry about? I appreciate any feedback I can get.



Once again thanks!



PaulA Simpsen

IT - Infrastructure Services Team

University of Oklahoma
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  St. Suite 620

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[ActiveDir] Publish ldap externally

2005-09-15 Thread Wehner, Paul \(wehnerpl\)

We are an edu and have an outside entity requesting access to our
exchange 2003 address book. 
I was thinking about creating a proxy user and giving it limited search
rights in AD
(name, email, phone, dept) and acl'ing 389 to the other orgs network. 
Is this possible? 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Publish ldap externally

2005-09-15 Thread Al Mulnick
It is, but have you considered an alternate method? Maybe a secured web page 
vs. 389 access to the network?? A web service?  

What are the risks that you see in your organization and are trying to mitigate 
vs. the rewards? How real-time does this need to be? 

Allowing access is easy.  Doing it in a way that meets your risk tolerance and 
return on time spent is different and requires a better understanding of your 
goals and environmental factors. 

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We are an edu and have an outside entity requesting access to our exchange 2003 
address book. 
I was thinking about creating a proxy user and giving it limited search rights 
in AD (name, email, phone, dept) and acl'ing 389 to the other orgs network. 
Is this possible? 

Thanks,
Paul




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RE: [ActiveDir] Root Domain on W2K3 SP1 and Child not

2005-09-15 Thread David Adner



2K3 and 2K3 SP1 DC's should interoperate with no issues 
besides the potential list of known issues with SP1 in general. ie: 
SP1 includes the original version of MS05-019. So if that patch caused you 
grief then you could potentially see communication issues between the DC's 
unless you installed the updated version of the patch. SP1 also includes 
changes in RPC that cause some firewalls to drop the packets until they're 
patched. Assuming you've done your testing and due diligence and either 
aren't affected by the known issues or have addressed them then there should be 
nothing inherently wrong with RTM and SP1 side by side, even within the same 
Domain.

  
  
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  A. (HSC)Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 8:01 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Root Domain on 
  W2K3 SP1 and Child not
  
  
  First off thanks for all the info 
  Ive soaked in. Ive hung in the background for a few years and have tried to soak it all intried I said! 
  Quick question = we are running Function level W2K3 with a root domain and 2 
  child domains. We have yet to install SP1 but plan on it this weekend. With 1 
  of the child domains we see the possibility of some problems due to old HW so 
  we want to postpone SP1 on that child until we refresh the 9 DCs with new HW. 
  We should have this done in the next 30 days or so. In the meantime we are 
  still planning to roll out SP1 to the other child and to the root. I dont see 
  any problems with this plan and have found nothing in MY searches to scare us 
  off. Can there be issues with this config? I know it is not optimal but any 
  big issues to worry about? I appreciate any feedback I can 
  get.
  
  Once again 
  thanks!
  
  PaulA 
  Simpsen
  IT - Infrastructure Services 
  Team
  University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center
  800 NE 
  15th St. Suite 
  620
  Oklahoma 
  City, OK. 
  73104
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  50230
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RE: [ActiveDir] Publish ldap externally

2005-09-15 Thread Geldrop, Paul van
ADAM in a DMZ, perhaps ?
 
Allowing LDAP queries into your domain sounds risky to me. Proxying into your 
own AD gives me the chills, quite frankly :P
 
Another option might be to extract the data periodically through a script and 
publish it to a secure webpage, like Al suggests. Bit more work, but also much 
more secure imho.
 
Regards,
 
Paul.
 
 



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It is, but have you considered an alternate method? Maybe a secured web page 
vs. 389 access to the network?? A web service? 

What are the risks that you see in your organization and are trying to mitigate 
vs. the rewards? How real-time does this need to be?

Allowing access is easy.  Doing it in a way that meets your risk tolerance and 
return on time spent is different and requires a better understanding of your 
goals and environmental factors.

Al




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We are an edu and have an outside entity requesting access to our exchange 2003 
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I was thinking about creating a proxy user and giving it limited search rights 
in AD (name, email, phone, dept) and acl'ing 389 to the other orgs network.
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RE: [ActiveDir] Networking rights...

2005-09-15 Thread TIROA YANN



Hello,

Don't know if there is already an answer to your 
question, butin order to have the domain useradministrative rights over its own 
computer, you need to put him into the local adminitrators group 
onhis computer.

Cordialement,Yann 
TIROACentre de Ressources Informatique.Campus Scientifique de la 
DOUA.Bât. Gabriel Lippmann - 2 ème étage - salle 238.43, Bd du 11 
Novembre 1918.69622 Villeurbanne Cedex.



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ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgObjet: [ActiveDir] Networking 
rights...

Hm, i know it isnt anything with AD..
But i don't know where to look.. Hoping you could answer...

I have a computer that connects to a domain.
The only problem is, the work on the local computer can not be 
modified...
The "owner" of the local files and folders are the local account..
But now we use the domain, and they dont have access to their own folders, 
and files.. because they were made with the local user..

The problem is, the user on the domain needs administrative rights over its 
own computer, but not the domain..
how?!-- Best RegardsKasper Sørensenwww.mewe.dk 


[ActiveDir] quick poll on directory authentication

2005-09-15 Thread Darren Mar-Elia



Hey 
all-
So, I am doing a 
quick poll of the list to gather some data points. I am interested in hearing 
from folks who are using either ADAM or Sun's Directory for their 
directory-enabled apps. I'm interested in hearing what authentication mechanisms 
(e.g. SSL, plain text, SASL, other, etc.)you are using to access these 
directories. If you're interested in helping me collect some data, please email 
me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED]with 
your authentication mechanism of choice. The data will not be used for 
anythingother thana statistical sampling. 

Thanks
Darren

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RE: [ActiveDir] quick poll on directory authentication

2005-09-15 Thread Medeiros, Jose
Hi Darren, 

Do you have a web page we can fill out your survey on? Or some time of form in 
Word?

Sincerely, 
Jose Medeiros
Former Vice President and Postmaster NTEA
MCP+I, MCSE, NT4 MCT
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Hey all-
So, I am doing a quick poll of the list to gather some data points. I am 
interested in hearing from folks who are using either ADAM or Sun's Directory 
for their directory-enabled apps. I'm interested in hearing what authentication 
mechanisms (e.g. SSL, plain text, SASL, other, etc.) you are using to access 
these directories. If you're interested in helping me collect some data, please 
email me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your authentication mechanism of 
choice. The data will not be used for anything other than a statistical 
sampling. 

Thanks

Darren

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RE: [ActiveDir] Administrator on one DC Cannot browse the others

2005-09-15 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
That looks like it.
 
See http://support.microsoft.com/?id=883268 for troubleshooting.
 
Any event log errors?
 
Cheers
Jorge



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Object from one DC do end up on other DC's.
When I run DCDiag /v I get this error

Event String: The kerberos subsystem encountered a PAC
verification failure.  This indicates that the
PAC from the client SERVER$ in realm
DOMAIN had a PAC which failed to
verify or was modified.  Contact your system
administrator. 
 
Could this be causing the problem
 
Lloyd



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Jorge de
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lloyd,
 
How do you know that one replicates OK? And the others? If you create an object 
on each DC, do those objects end up on all DCs?
 
Any event log errors?
 
What does DCDIAG /V say when on that problem DC?
 
Cheers
Jorge



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I have the following problem with one of my Active Directory Domain controllers.
I have 6 domain controllers. They can all replicate OK. However one controller 
has the following problem.
When I log in as administrator it cannot access the others through network 
neighborhood, or to map a drive.
If I try and access any of the other DC it prompts me for my user name and 
password.
 
If I enter DOMAIN\administrator it tells my I am already logged in as that and 
does not give access to the DC
 
On each of the 6 DC I can log in OK as administrator so the passwords work 
locally but across the network this one DC is cut off from all the others. 
However it still replicates OK which seems strange.
 
Anyone have any ideas what could cause this
 
Thanks
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RE: [ActiveDir] quick poll on directory authentication

2005-09-15 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
Jose-
No, unfortunately this is very informal so I haven't done anything like
a web form. If you're interested in being more anonymous than email, you
can go to my www.gpoguy.com website and post it on the feedback form
there, which does not require any identifying info and should suffice
for this.

Thanks!

Darren 

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Hi Darren, 

Do you have a web page we can fill out your survey on? Or some time of
form in Word?

Sincerely,
Jose Medeiros
Former Vice President and Postmaster NTEA
MCP+I, MCSE, NT4 MCT
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Hey all-
So, I am doing a quick poll of the list to gather some data points. I am
interested in hearing from folks who are using either ADAM or Sun's
Directory for their directory-enabled apps. I'm interested in hearing
what authentication mechanisms (e.g. SSL, plain text, SASL, other, etc.)
you are using to access these directories. If you're interested in
helping me collect some data, please email me off list at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with your authentication mechanism of choice.
The data will not be used for anything other than a statistical
sampling. 

Thanks

Darren

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[ActiveDir] OT: Outsourcing OS Patching

2005-09-15 Thread Carerros, Charles
Group,

Odd question.  I just got out of a meeting with a consulting group that
wants us to outsource the patching of our servers that are not in our data
center (we have a number of servers that are at our remote locations and our
staff is struggling with our patching cycle on these for one reason or
another).

Does anyone know of an outsourcing group that will only do the MS patchiness
on the servers and let the owners of the boxes do everything else?  

We are looking for a basis of comparison and this consultant said that they
don't have any competitors in this field.  Either people outsource all of
their servers, all of the services or they don't outsource at all.  They
don't know of anyone who only outsourcers the patching and monitoring of the
boxes.

Thanks,

Charlie
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[ActiveDir] Script for deleting files from shared folder

2005-09-15 Thread Ahmed Al-Awah
Hello all,

I have an Win2k AD env with 200 users. I was wondering if anyone has a
script that will delete a specific file from several locations
automatically? What I'm trying to do is delete a specific file from each
users home folder. We have over 200 hundred users, any advice is
appreciated.

Kind rgds,
Ahmed
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RE: [ActiveDir] REPOST DFS Permissions

2005-09-15 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
I see you've still not received a reply...

yep - the described solution should work fine. I assume you want to use
nested groups to grant admins from different domains to add users from
their domain. Otherwise you could also use a single UG to reach your
goal and manage this group centrally.

The reason you can't use DLGs is quite simple: their scope is _local_ to
the domain they're hosted in. While you can actually use them to grant
rights to the FS (and they'll also be replicated), they are not valid on
any of the DFS link-targets outside of the originating domain.

Compare this with permissions on AD objects in a multi-domain forest
using local groups = they also don't work on GCs in other domains...
(there was a recent discussion about this on this list)

/Guido

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Justin A.
Sent: Mittwoch, 14. September 2005 19:01
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] REPOST DFS Permissions

Since I did not get any responses, I thought I might repost this message

If I am using a DFS share that has copies of that share between child
domains am I not able to use Domain Local Groups in conjunction with
Global and Universal groups to grant permissions?

I noticed that I cannot choose Domain Local groups from the list.

Here is what I am trying to do

DFSshare

Servers participating in share are:

serverA.parent
ServerB.child1.parent
ServerC.child2.parent
ServerD.child3.parent

Users in Parent, Child1, Child2 and Child3 all need to be able to access
and potentially edit files.  How would you recommend that I setup the
permissions?

I was thinking

Parent

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent
DFS Share Workgroup Universal - Granted rights to files and folders

Child 1

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent

Child 2

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent

Child 3

DFS Share Workgroup Global - Member of DFS Share Workgroup Universal in
Parent


I could use this same methodology to grant permissions to different
kinds of users and folders as needed.  What do you think


Justin A. Salandra
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Network and Technology Services Manager
Catholic Healthcare System
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Outsourcing OS Patching

2005-09-15 Thread Creamer, Mark
Why wouldn't any decent consulting group do whatever you want them to do for 
their fee? Xerox for
example, IBM also. I know we have them both doing work for us on various 
platforms. We just agree on
the services provided, and that's that. What do they mean no competitors?, or 
maybe I'm
misunderstanding

One thought though - I think I'd still want the control to say do this patch, 
but not that service
pack yet, etc. I would think you want to maintain control to make sure that 
your applications are
tested before a SP is introduced, right?

mc
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Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Outsourcing OS Patching

Group,

Odd question.  I just got out of a meeting with a consulting group that
wants us to outsource the patching of our servers that are not in our data
center (we have a number of servers that are at our remote locations and our
staff is struggling with our patching cycle on these for one reason or
another).

Does anyone know of an outsourcing group that will only do the MS patchiness
on the servers and let the owners of the boxes do everything else?  

We are looking for a basis of comparison and this consultant said that they
don't have any competitors in this field.  Either people outsource all of
their servers, all of the services or they don't outsource at all.  They
don't know of anyone who only outsourcers the patching and monitoring of the
boxes.

Thanks,

Charlie
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Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Outsourcing OS Patching

2005-09-15 Thread RM
Title: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Outsourcing OS Patching


  
  
How many boxes/sites are we talking about?  Are they WAN-connected to your site?  It sounds like a bad idea for several reasons and I don't understand why the patch management cannot be centralized within your org.  Managing the outsourcer's access to the systems will probably be more difficult than just doing the patches.RMOn Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:22:26 -0500, Carerros, Charles[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does anyone know of an outsourcing group that will only do the MS patchiness on the servers and let the owners of the boxes do everything else?    We are looking for a basis of comparison and this consultant said that they don't have any competitors in this field.  Either people outsource all of their servers, all of the services or they don't outsource at all.  They don't know of anyone who only outsourcers the patching and monitoring of the boxes.
  



RE: [ActiveDir] Script for deleting files from shared folder

2005-09-15 Thread Mark Parris
If the files are on one or two servers - how about using search and delete?
It works for me every time.

Mark

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ahmed Al-Awah
Sent: 15 September 2005 20:21
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: [ActiveDir] Script for deleting files from shared folder

Hello all,

I have an Win2k AD env with 200 users. I was wondering if anyone has a
script that will delete a specific file from several locations
automatically? What I'm trying to do is delete a specific file from each
users home folder. We have over 200 hundred users, any advice is
appreciated.

Kind rgds,
Ahmed
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Re: [ActiveDir] Script for deleting files from shared folder

2005-09-15 Thread ASB
Go to the root of that drive.

type DEL blahblah.exe /s

It will delete that file down the entire tree.


-ASB
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On 9/15/05, Ahmed Al-Awah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all,I have an Win2k AD env with 200 users. I was wondering if anyone has ascript that will delete a specific file from several locations
automatically? What I'm trying to do is delete a specific file from eachusers home folder. We have over 200 hundred users, any advice isappreciated.Kind rgds,Ahmed


[ActiveDir] User attribute manipulation via vbscript question.

2005-09-15 Thread Burns, Clyde
 
Can anyone tell me which attribute of a user object stores the value for
Automatically update e-mail addresses based on recipient policy in a
2003 AD and 2003 Exchange org? Or at least point out documentation on
how that value is stored in AD and manipulated via vbscript?

Thanks
Clyde Burns

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RE: [ActiveDir] Sysvol and AV exclusions

2005-09-15 Thread Roger Seielstad
Trend Micro's products are fairly robust there too. 



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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Sysvol and AV exclusions

The only product I have seen the full exclusion capabilities in, is Mcafee;
from ePO this can all be configured centrally. With symantec, paths and file
types can be excluded centrally, but the actual files have to be configured
manually on every DC, thus leading to more donkey work and an increased
scope for error. The only other quirk with symantec is that it does not
allow for future files, that is if its not there, you can't exclude it.
This was the case up until version 9, 10 I have yet to see. All that being
said, there is an unsupported hack available from symantec to enable the
centralised mgmt.

Mark


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Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:09:18
To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Sysvol and AV exclusions

Ah, you mean my expectations are too high.  :-)

As an illustration of the problem, I have attached a screenshot from CA's
eTrust AV product.  I'm not familiar with the product (nor do I wish to be),
but from a quick look it does not appear possible to set the exclsions
according to the 822158 article.  Apart from the potential issue of only
being able to specify a maximum of 16 paths for exclusion, the real problem
is the inability to include subfolders of folders that have been excluded.

I would imagine that a reasonable percentage of the installed base of AD
uses CA's product.  We're probably talking 10s of thousands of organisations
worldwide.  Our local CA representative was unable to provide a CA
recommendation for the exclusion list and suggested we refer to Microsoft's
best practices. 

I guess I'm going to have to come up with a best efforts compromise
configuration, combining the recommendations in the 822158 article and the
capabilities of the CA product. 

Tony
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You obviously haven't dealt with the Exchange Team enough. 

:-)

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Hi Brett

Thanks for your detailed response.  I see you've also managed to sort out
the formatting of the table in the article.  Oh, what power you wield! :-)

The main issue I have is that the article introduces some new
exclusions.  I don't think I'm alone in thinking that the general approach
before this article came out was, If your AV product is FRS-compliant then
include SYSVOL in scans..  I am fully aware of the effects of a virus being
replicated by SYSVOL, having seen it first-hand.  SYSVOL does a great job of
moving a virus around a network very quickly. :-)  So it's important to scan
SYSVOL (or at least parts thereof).

Going back to the issue, the 822158 article sets out exclusions, but doesn't
indicate why they should be exlcuded.  In other words, what is the risk of
including them?  This is relevant for at least one major AV product vendor,
which has a (somewhat stupid) low limit on the number of files and folders
that can be excluded on any one server.  I'm also not convinced that the AV
product I'm thinking of can perform the level of granularity of
inclusion/exclusion suggested in the table.

I can sort of understand why the staging areas would be excluded (compressed
files, possibility of locking), but why exclude %systemroot%\sysvol and
%systemroot%\sysvol\sysvol?  I can't see anything in my test environment
that would pose any problems by scanning these folders.

Call me a control freak, but I just don't like seeing a statement such as,
Do not scan the following files and folders. with no additional
explanation.

Tony

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The articles should not be inconsistent.
The 822158 does mention 814263 (see bullet 2).

284947 - is how to detect and diagnose excessive FRS replication.
Noting it might be caused by Anti-Virus software.  And mentioning how to
recover.  
It is not SYSVOL specific, it is FRS specific.  But sincej SYSVOL is an FRS
share, so it applies to SYSVOL, if this should happen to your SYSVOL.

814263 - is about Anti-Virus programs that are compatible with FRS from a
generic sense.  Againt not SYSVOL specific, FRS specific.  You will want one
of these programs to continue on with 

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Outsourcing OS Patching

2005-09-15 Thread Roger Seielstad
Why not run something like WSUS (Windows Software Update Services) and
manage it yourselves Seems kinda silly to outsource that piece 



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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:22 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Outsourcing OS Patching

Group,

Odd question.  I just got out of a meeting with a consulting group that
wants us to outsource the patching of our servers that are not in our data
center (we have a number of servers that are at our remote locations and our
staff is struggling with our patching cycle on these for one reason or
another).

Does anyone know of an outsourcing group that will only do the MS patchiness
on the servers and let the owners of the boxes do everything else?  

We are looking for a basis of comparison and this consultant said that they
don't have any competitors in this field.  Either people outsource all of
their servers, all of the services or they don't outsource at all.  They
don't know of anyone who only outsourcers the patching and monitoring of the
boxes.

Thanks,

Charlie
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RE: [ActiveDir] User attribute manipulation via vbscript question.

2005-09-15 Thread Al Mulnick
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318072
 
ADModify would also do this, and joeware is likely to do this as well. 
 
Al



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Subject: [ActiveDir] User attribute manipulation via vbscript question.




Can anyone tell me which attribute of a user object stores the value for
Automatically update e-mail addresses based on recipient policy in a
2003 AD and 2003 Exchange org? Or at least point out documentation on
how that value is stored in AD and manipulated via vbscript?

Thanks
Clyde Burns

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RE: [ActiveDir] User attribute manipulation via vbscript question.

2005-09-15 Thread Michael B. Smith
Title: [ActiveDir] User attribute manipulation via vbscript question.



This particular attribute is a bit of a PITA and most 
sample programs don't handle it properly (which doesn't imply that joeware 
doesn't). :-)

There may be multiple policies or a single policy or no 
policy. The variable type is dependent on which of those is true. Further, if 
there is a policy (or more than one), then there can be multiple related 
policies in the policy-value, comma-separated.

In VBS this is somewhat lengthy to code. But certainly 
doable.



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manipulation via _vbscript_ question.


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;318072

ADModify would also do this, and joeware is 
likely to do this as well. 

Al


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manipulation via _vbscript_ question.

Can anyone tell me which attribute of a user object stores 
the value for"Automatically update e-mail addresses based on recipient 
policy" in a2003 AD and 2003 Exchange org? Or at least point out 
documentation onhow that value is stored in AD and manipulated via 
_vbscript_?ThanksClyde 
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