Re: [ActiveDir] ADSIEdit, Exchange and Assistants

2006-07-14 Thread AdamT

Just looking further in to this, it seems telephoneAssistant and
secretary are the fields that appear in outlook - both of which are
free text input.

It begs the question of what the DN field of 'assistant' actually
does.  Surely if it is expecting a distinguished name, it must be used
for something, somewhere?

Anyone know what?

On 13/07/06, AdamT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nevermind - figured it out myself after finding an account with N/A
in the field- the correct field is called 'telephoneAssistant', and is
a freetext input, rather than a DN.

On 13/07/06, AdamT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear font of all knowledge,

 I remeber reading a thread a while back about changing the value of
 the 'assistant' field, using ADSIEdit.

 Somebody's asked me to do this today, so I've given it a go, and
 copied/pasted the DN from one user to the other's 'assistant' field -
 but the change doesn't appear to be showing in people's Outlook
 clients.  I've checked on a freshly installed Outlook client, just to
 be sure there's no cached data, and looking at the user's GAL
 properties still shows the assistant field as blank.

 Am I missing something here?  Is that not the same assistant field
 that Exchange 2K/2K3 would be looking at?  Is there something else I
 need to do to enable usage of this field?

 Thanks in advance,

 --
 AdamT
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anon





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Re: [ActiveDir] ADSIEdit, Exchange and Assistants

2006-07-14 Thread Joe Kaplan
This is an interesting question.  I'm going to posit a guess that the 
assistant field comes from a standard schema definition and is included in 
AD as a result of that.


The DN field has many advantages, in that  it is rename/move-safe, etc.  One 
other interesting point about this attribute is that it is not linked, which 
means that you can't look at the backlink to see who supports who and such. 
The majority of DN attributes in AD are linked, but this one is not.


I'm guessing the GAL doesn't use it because the GAL logic was either two 
slow/too lazy to do the appropriate attribute scope query to resolve the DN 
into a friendly name before publishing (no one wants to actually see the DN 
in the GAL!).  This may also just be a throwback from previous versions of 
AD which didn't support ASQ, making this operation a little less elegant. 
In any event, it would definitely make the GAL building logic slower as an 
additional query would be required.


You could always automate this yourself by populating the assistant field 
through some sort of provisioning process and then writing the free text 
attributes based on data from the referenced object.  You could then 
implement some sort of change polling/sync process that would look for 
changes to objects for the attributes you use for the free text value and 
then set the value in the referencing object whenever the source value 
changes.  That would be slick.  :)  Unfortunately, this is less easy to do 
than it might be due to the lack of the backlink.


Joe K.
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Just looking further in to this, it seems telephoneAssistant and
secretary are the fields that appear in outlook - both of which are
free text input.

It begs the question of what the DN field of 'assistant' actually
does.  Surely if it is expecting a distinguished name, it must be used
for something, somewhere?

Anyone know what?



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[ActiveDir] ADSIEdit, Exchange and Assistants

2006-07-13 Thread AdamT

Dear font of all knowledge,

I remeber reading a thread a while back about changing the value of
the 'assistant' field, using ADSIEdit.

Somebody's asked me to do this today, so I've given it a go, and
copied/pasted the DN from one user to the other's 'assistant' field -
but the change doesn't appear to be showing in people's Outlook
clients.  I've checked on a freshly installed Outlook client, just to
be sure there's no cached data, and looking at the user's GAL
properties still shows the assistant field as blank.

Am I missing something here?  Is that not the same assistant field
that Exchange 2K/2K3 would be looking at?  Is there something else I
need to do to enable usage of this field?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [ActiveDir] ADSIEdit, Exchange and Assistants

2006-07-13 Thread AdamT

Nevermind - figured it out myself after finding an account with N/A
in the field- the correct field is called 'telephoneAssistant', and is
a freetext input, rather than a DN.

On 13/07/06, AdamT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear font of all knowledge,

I remeber reading a thread a while back about changing the value of
the 'assistant' field, using ADSIEdit.

Somebody's asked me to do this today, so I've given it a go, and
copied/pasted the DN from one user to the other's 'assistant' field -
but the change doesn't appear to be showing in people's Outlook
clients.  I've checked on a freshly installed Outlook client, just to
be sure there's no cached data, and looking at the user's GAL
properties still shows the assistant field as blank.

Am I missing something here?  Is that not the same assistant field
that Exchange 2K/2K3 would be looking at?  Is there something else I
need to do to enable usage of this field?

Thanks in advance,

--
AdamT
If it truly were the thought that counted, more women would be pregnant - anon


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