RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Woo-hoo! Thanks, Laura. Thanks everybody else who replied as well. After a couple days without electricity at home, finally getting electricity Saturday and getting a good night's sleep, I got up early this morning dreading having to drive into work in all this ice and snow here in St. Louis, but was able to change the pagefile and reboot, and voila, I can log in remotely again. Thanks again, folks. I'll be all right now. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 11:33 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Larry, You can reboot the server the same way you can change the pagefile size- connect to it in Computer Management, right-click the server, choose Properties, Advanced. At the bottom of the property sheet, there will be a button labeled shut down, but when you click it, it will give you other options than just shutting the machine down. HTH, Laura List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: RE: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Hey, I thought you loved it when people got all geeky :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:39 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: OT: RE: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile I was out eating turkey. You people were reading the list? Dang, that's dedication! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 5:22 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile I think Susan brought this up last week or so. Here's the link she gave. I can't find the original post http://blogs.technet.com/petergal/archive/2006/03/23/422993.aspx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:21 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: OT: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile You know, you can actually do your own crashdump analysis. We even used to teach people how to do it back in the NT4 days. I loved that class. :-D Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Hoehn Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, Best practice used to be to put the pagefile on a different BUS than the OS. The idea is that you can read/write to both the OS and the PF at the same time. We always put the entire PF on a separate bus/drive in it's own partition. That way you have the added speed of a bus apart from the OS bus and a contiguous PF. We never bothered with a C: swapfile because we could never afford to send the dump to M$ for decryption. :-} Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, I have an answer and a question about the same. Most of my servers have 2 partition, one for the OS and the other for data, I always put the pagefile in the data partition, so yes, you can have the have the whole thing in a different partition or hard drive. Actually, Linux system always create a swap partition just for that purpose, so I wonder if it would be more efficient to always create a partition just for the pagefile... Anyone knows? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Laura, Thanks ever so much for all your help. I will be trying some of these things soon, but for now, I'm one of the over 400,000 people in St. Louis without power. My workplace is closed, too, so I might end up waiting it out One question, if you don't mind and have a minute: How do I reboot the server if I can't log on? Many thanks again. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:32 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Inline... Thanks for replying, Laura! Sure thing. You wrote: Are you able to connect to the server via Computer Management? Yes. Then you can use that to reconfigure the pagefile, making very, very sure you click Set. :-) After you've connected to it in CM, right click the computer, choose Properties, go to the Advanced tab, yada yada yada. If so, can you see the service statuses and event logs on the server? Yes. I looked all through the event logs, and didn't see anything relating to terminal services failures. And the terminal services service is started. How about the security log? Are you seeing logon failures? Can you telnet to the RDP port? If you mean, can I telnet to the server by name or by its IP address, no. But yes, I can telnet to port 3389 on the server, and the cursor sits there and blinks at me, but as soon as I hit any key, I get back to my command prompt. Okay, port's open. Can you map a drive to a share on the server? Yes. And, in fact, I have the same 2Gb pagefile on C: that I had before, and no pagefile on E: So, I'm thinking that A. I forgot to hit the set button, or B. The server got confused. The snow might have made it sluggish. (That's a joke, folks.) See above for remedy (hopefully). When you say you can't log on, do you get the logon dialog box and a failure to let you log on, or do you get no remote desktop UI at all? No remote desktop UI at all. I immediately get the disconnected from server message. Okay. Try logging on with a different account that has TS connection permissions. Check the security logs. If you're not auditing logon events, you'll need to do that. Check the terminal services permissions, etc. Maybe do a preemptive reboot (or just do it as part of that pagefile adjustment) and see if anything changes. If none of that works, there's still more stuff to check, but I'm tired of typing right now and hopefully one of the above things will determine the issue. Laura (probably a bit overcaffeinated now; can you tell?) No problem. I'm snowed in, but the server is running. I guess what I'd like to do is see if I can reset the pagefile and reboot the server, all remotely, and still manage to terminal service to it and log in. Thanks for your help, Laura. You deserve many pats on the back, attagirls, and stuff. No problem, and no pats necessary. Laura -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
If you can get to Computer Management, you could start the Telnet service. At that point, telnet to the server and do a shutdown /r. And I mean a standard telnet connection, not telnet to some fancy port. I suspect you are having the dreaded rdp doesn't work for some reason problem, which somehow clears itself up after a reboot most of the time. I know this has been discussed on this board several times, but no one has really come up with a solution from what I've seen, other than reboot and see if it works. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:22 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Laura, Thanks ever so much for all your help. I will be trying some of these things soon, but for now, I'm one of the over 400,000 people in St. Louis without power. My workplace is closed, too, so I might end up waiting it out One question, if you don't mind and have a minute: How do I reboot the server if I can't log on? Many thanks again. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:32 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Inline... Thanks for replying, Laura! Sure thing. You wrote: Are you able to connect to the server via Computer Management? Yes. Then you can use that to reconfigure the pagefile, making very, very sure you click Set. :-) After you've connected to it in CM, right click the computer, choose Properties, go to the Advanced tab, yada yada yada. If so, can you see the service statuses and event logs on the server? Yes. I looked all through the event logs, and didn't see anything relating to terminal services failures. And the terminal services service is started. How about the security log? Are you seeing logon failures? Can you telnet to the RDP port? If you mean, can I telnet to the server by name or by its IP address, no. But yes, I can telnet to port 3389 on the server, and the cursor sits there and blinks at me, but as soon as I hit any key, I get back to my command prompt. Okay, port's open. Can you map a drive to a share on the server? Yes. And, in fact, I have the same 2Gb pagefile on C: that I had before, and no pagefile on E: So, I'm thinking that A. I forgot to hit the set button, or B. The server got confused. The snow might have made it sluggish. (That's a joke, folks.) See above for remedy (hopefully). When you say you can't log on, do you get the logon dialog box and a failure to let you log on, or do you get no remote desktop UI at all? No remote desktop UI at all. I immediately get the disconnected from server message. Okay. Try logging on with a different account that has TS connection permissions. Check the security logs. If you're not auditing logon events, you'll need to do that. Check the terminal services permissions, etc. Maybe do a preemptive reboot (or just do it as part of that pagefile adjustment) and see if anything changes. If none of that works, there's still more stuff to check, but I'm tired of typing right now and hopefully one of the above things will determine the issue. Laura (probably a bit overcaffeinated now; can you tell?) No problem. I'm snowed in, but the server is running. I guess what I'd like to do is see if I can reset the pagefile and reboot the server, all remotely, and still manage to terminal service to it and log in. Thanks for your help, Laura. You deserve many pats on the back, attagirls, and stuff. No problem, and no pats necessary. Laura -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
How about a remote shutdown like shutdown /m \\computername /r /f Mike Thommes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:51 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile If you can get to Computer Management, you could start the Telnet service. At that point, telnet to the server and do a shutdown /r. And I mean a standard telnet connection, not telnet to some fancy port. I suspect you are having the dreaded rdp doesn't work for some reason problem, which somehow clears itself up after a reboot most of the time. I know this has been discussed on this board several times, but no one has really come up with a solution from what I've seen, other than reboot and see if it works. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:22 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Laura, Thanks ever so much for all your help. I will be trying some of these things soon, but for now, I'm one of the over 400,000 people in St. Louis without power. My workplace is closed, too, so I might end up waiting it out One question, if you don't mind and have a minute: How do I reboot the server if I can't log on? Many thanks again. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:32 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Inline... Thanks for replying, Laura! Sure thing. You wrote: Are you able to connect to the server via Computer Management? Yes. Then you can use that to reconfigure the pagefile, making very, very sure you click Set. :-) After you've connected to it in CM, right click the computer, choose Properties, go to the Advanced tab, yada yada yada. If so, can you see the service statuses and event logs on the server? Yes. I looked all through the event logs, and didn't see anything relating to terminal services failures. And the terminal services service is started. How about the security log? Are you seeing logon failures? Can you telnet to the RDP port? If you mean, can I telnet to the server by name or by its IP address, no. But yes, I can telnet to port 3389 on the server, and the cursor sits there and blinks at me, but as soon as I hit any key, I get back to my command prompt. Okay, port's open. Can you map a drive to a share on the server? Yes. And, in fact, I have the same 2Gb pagefile on C: that I had before, and no pagefile on E: So, I'm thinking that A. I forgot to hit the set button, or B. The server got confused. The snow might have made it sluggish. (That's a joke, folks.) See above for remedy (hopefully). When you say you can't log on, do you get the logon dialog box and a failure to let you log on, or do you get no remote desktop UI at all? No remote desktop UI at all. I immediately get the disconnected from server message. Okay. Try logging on with a different account that has TS connection permissions. Check the security logs. If you're not auditing logon events, you'll need to do that. Check the terminal services permissions, etc. Maybe do a preemptive reboot (or just do it as part of that pagefile adjustment) and see if anything changes. If none of that works, there's still more stuff to check, but I'm tired of typing right now and hopefully one of the above things will determine the issue. Laura (probably a bit overcaffeinated now; can you tell?) No problem. I'm snowed in, but the server is running. I guess what I'd like to do is see if I can reset the pagefile and reboot the server, all remotely, and still manage to terminal service to it and log in. Thanks for your help, Laura. You deserve many pats on the back, attagirls, and stuff. No problem, and no pats necessary. Laura -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Larry, You can reboot the server the same way you can change the pagefile size- connect to it in Computer Management, right-click the server, choose Properties, Advanced. At the bottom of the property sheet, there will be a button labeled shut down, but when you click it, it will give you other options than just shutting the machine down. HTH, Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:22 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Laura, Thanks ever so much for all your help. I will be trying some of these things soon, but for now, I'm one of the over 400,000 people in St. Louis without power. My workplace is closed, too, so I might end up waiting it out One question, if you don't mind and have a minute: How do I reboot the server if I can't log on? Many thanks again. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:32 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Inline... Thanks for replying, Laura! Sure thing. You wrote: Are you able to connect to the server via Computer Management? Yes. Then you can use that to reconfigure the pagefile, making very, very sure you click Set. :-) After you've connected to it in CM, right click the computer, choose Properties, go to the Advanced tab, yada yada yada. If so, can you see the service statuses and event logs on the server? Yes. I looked all through the event logs, and didn't see anything relating to terminal services failures. And the terminal services service is started. How about the security log? Are you seeing logon failures? Can you telnet to the RDP port? If you mean, can I telnet to the server by name or by its IP address, no. But yes, I can telnet to port 3389 on the server, and the cursor sits there and blinks at me, but as soon as I hit any key, I get back to my command prompt. Okay, port's open. Can you map a drive to a share on the server? Yes. And, in fact, I have the same 2Gb pagefile on C: that I had before, and no pagefile on E: So, I'm thinking that A. I forgot to hit the set button, or B. The server got confused. The snow might have made it sluggish. (That's a joke, folks.) See above for remedy (hopefully). When you say you can't log on, do you get the logon dialog box and a failure to let you log on, or do you get no remote desktop UI at all? No remote desktop UI at all. I immediately get the disconnected from server message. Okay. Try logging on with a different account that has TS connection permissions. Check the security logs. If you're not auditing logon events, you'll need to do that. Check the terminal services permissions, etc. Maybe do a preemptive reboot (or just do it as part of that pagefile adjustment) and see if anything changes. If none of that works, there's still more stuff to check, but I'm tired of typing right now and hopefully one of the above things will determine the issue. Laura (probably a bit overcaffeinated now; can you tell?) No problem. I'm snowed in, but the server is running. I guess what I'd like to do is see if I can reset the pagefile and reboot the server, all remotely, and still manage to terminal service to it and log in. Thanks for your help, Laura. You deserve many pats on the back, attagirls, and stuff. No problem, and no pats necessary. Laura -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.3/561 - Release Date: 12/1/2006 6:36 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.3/561 - Release Date: 12/1/2006 6:36 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
[ActiveDir] Split pagefile?
Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on a Windows Server 2003 Standard system (it's running Exchange 2003) across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003/AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
It really shouldn't matter whether or not the page file resides on the boot partition or not. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:09 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003/AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Yes, it's okay, with the crashdump caveats that you've already acknowledged and accommodated. It's also a good idea to split pagefiles across multiple spindles for performance reasons when possible. I don't know if that's relevant in your case, but whenever you have the opportunity to split pagefile across disks (not partitions, disks), you get an associated read/write bump as a result. P.S. They may have said that in the article you reference below; I didn't actually click the link and read it. :-) Laura (Robinson, not Hunter) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
You're going to have other issues if you have that little free space on your C drive. My suggestion is that you find something else to cleanup or else replace the spindles with larger ones. Yes its fine to store the pagefile elsewhere though. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003/AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
I think 2k3r2 requires at least 16MB on C:. At least that is the error message I have gotten before when I tried to make it smaller than that. In 2000 I could make it 10MB without it complaining. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:09 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003/AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
There must be a pagefile on the boot drive in order to facilitate a crash dump [*if* that is a concern for the environment]; dumps cannot be directed to another partition. So in that respect, it does matter, but it is not a hard requirement that there be a pagefile on the boot drive. Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WATSON, BEN Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:24 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile It really shouldn't matter whether or not the page file resides on the boot partition or not. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:09 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Hi, I have an answer and a question about the same. Most of my servers have 2 partition, one for the OS and the other for data, I always put the pagefile in the data partition, so yes, you can have the have the whole thing in a different partition or hard drive. Actually, Linux system always create a swap partition just for that purpose, so I wonder if it would be more efficient to always create a partition just for the pagefile... Anyone knows? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003/AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
That's only if you select the custom size radio button and try to set it to less than 16MB. If you select the no paging file option, it works fine. Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:28 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile I think 2k3r2 requires at least 16MB on C:. At least that is the error message I have gotten before when I tried to make it smaller than that. In 2000 I could make it 10MB without it complaining. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:09 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Thanks, everyone, for your replies. Meanwhile, Laura wrote: Yes, it's okay, with the crashdump caveats that you've already acknowledged and accommodated. Good! It's also a good idea to split pagefiles across multiple spindles It will be on a RAID-5 array, so technically yes, it will be across multiple spindles. Kevin wrote: I think 2k3r2 requires at least 16MB on C:. At least that is the error message I have gotten before when I tried to make it smaller than that. This isn't R2, but it is 2K3 sp1. I'll see if it complains about 1MB pagefile on C before I reboot at 5 today. Thanks again for your comments, folks. Larry Wahlers List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Hi, Best practice used to be to put the pagefile on a different BUS than the OS. The idea is that you can read/write to both the OS and the PF at the same time. We always put the entire PF on a separate bus/drive in it's own partition. That way you have the added speed of a bus apart from the OS bus and a contiguous PF. We never bothered with a C: swapfile because we could never afford to send the dump to M$ for decryption. :-} Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, I have an answer and a question about the same. Most of my servers have 2 partition, one for the OS and the other for data, I always put the pagefile in the data partition, so yes, you can have the have the whole thing in a different partition or hard drive. Actually, Linux system always create a swap partition just for that purpose, so I wonder if it would be more efficient to always create a partition just for the pagefile... Anyone knows? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003/AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Back in the mists of antiquity, when 3 meg disks were the norm (mainframes...), we always put any files that were going to be heavily used (in terms of r/w) closest to the spindle since the heads had less distance to travel. Fewer milliseconds to get to what you were looking for. We also optimized for disk sector interleave, but that's not important any more... Here's the point. I always put swap files, whether Linux or Windows OS, *closest* (physically) to the FAT. Where does a disk drive spend most of its time loitering? The FAT area, simply to find or record where everything is. So, yes, you have to consider where *physically* (disk geometry) you are going to put the swap file ON THE DISK, not which partition. But this is my old mainframe experience (hardware/software) talking. Steve Egan Purcell Systems System/Network Administrator desk 509 755-0341 x110 cell 509 475-7682 fax 509 755-0345 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:08 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, I have an answer and a question about the same. Most of my servers have 2 partition, one for the OS and the other for data, I always put the pagefile in the data partition, so yes, you can have the have the whole thing in a different partition or hard drive. Actually, Linux system always create a swap partition just for that purpose, so I wonder if it would be more efficient to always create a partition just for the pagefile... Anyone knows? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003/AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Good call. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:24 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile That's only if you select the custom size radio button and try to set it to less than 16MB. If you select the no paging file option, it works fine. Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:28 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile I think 2k3r2 requires at least 16MB on C:. At least that is the error message I have gotten before when I tried to make it smaller than that. In 2000 I could make it 10MB without it complaining. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:09 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Ah, that's a nice clarification. I actually wasn't aware of the 16MB limitation for page file size on the boot partition, especially since I had done just what you said. Set the boot partition to no paging file and just set it manually on an alternative disk. Very good to know, thanks for the info Laura. ~Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:24 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile That's only if you select the custom size radio button and try to set it to less than 16MB. If you select the no paging file option, it works fine. Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:28 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile I think 2k3r2 requires at least 16MB on C:. At least that is the error message I have gotten before when I tried to make it smaller than that. In 2000 I could make it 10MB without it complaining. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:09 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
When I do that, I try to dedicate an entire spindle to the pagefile, if possible. It eliminates competition for disk I/O from other sources. If I can't devote a full spindle, I do tend to do a pagefile partition just because it gives the pagefile a nice, clean sandbox of its own without data storage creeping into its space. That said, all of the configuration is completely dependent upon hardware and software configuration. In other words, just because I've done things this way, that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm advising it as a best practice. Heck, it doesn't even necessarily mean that it's a good idea. :-) Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:08 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, I have an answer and a question about the same. Most of my servers have 2 partition, one for the OS and the other for data, I always put the pagefile in the data partition, so yes, you can have the have the whole thing in a different partition or hard drive. Actually, Linux system always create a swap partition just for that purpose, so I wonder if it would be more efficient to always create a partition just for the pagefile... Anyone knows? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Larry wrote: It's also a good idea to split pagefiles across multiple spindles It will be on a RAID-5 array, so technically yes, it will be across multiple spindles. Yup. I usually create a separate partition on the array and drop the pagefile there. That's mostly just because I'm a little OCD, though. :-) Laura -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
OT: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
You know, you can actually do your own crashdump analysis. We even used to teach people how to do it back in the NT4 days. I loved that class. :-D Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Hoehn Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, Best practice used to be to put the pagefile on a different BUS than the OS. The idea is that you can read/write to both the OS and the PF at the same time. We always put the entire PF on a separate bus/drive in it's own partition. That way you have the added speed of a bus apart from the OS bus and a contiguous PF. We never bothered with a C: swapfile because we could never afford to send the dump to M$ for decryption. :-} Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, I have an answer and a question about the same. Most of my servers have 2 partition, one for the OS and the other for data, I always put the pagefile in the data partition, so yes, you can have the have the whole thing in a different partition or hard drive. Actually, Linux system always create a swap partition just for that purpose, so I wonder if it would be more efficient to always create a partition just for the pagefile... Anyone knows? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Thanks, Kevin and Ben. I feel all warm and fuzzy and valuable and stuff now. :-D Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WATSON, BEN Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:29 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Ah, that's a nice clarification. I actually wasn't aware of the 16MB limitation for page file size on the boot partition, especially since I had done just what you said. Set the boot partition to no paging file and just set it manually on an alternative disk. Very good to know, thanks for the info Laura. ~Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:24 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile That's only if you select the custom size radio button and try to set it to less than 16MB. If you select the no paging file option, it works fine. Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:28 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile I think 2k3r2 requires at least 16MB on C:. At least that is the error message I have gotten before when I tried to make it smaller than that. In 2000 I could make it 10MB without it complaining. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:09 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Laura wrote: That's only if you select the custom size radio button and try to set it to less than 16MB. If you select the no paging file option, it works fine. Very good. I just tried that on a test server, and that worked. However, I have a very different problem now. I went ahead and put 16Mb on my C: volume, and 4096Mb on my F: volume, rebooted, the server came up, Exchange is working, but I cannot log onto the server with Remote Desktops anymore. Are these related? Any advice as to how I can get Remote Desktops to this server working again will be greatly appreciated, as St. Louis is now experiencing one of its famous ice storms, and going in to where the server is just isn't an option right now. Larry Wahlers List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
Re: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Beats having to read SEC17a and NASD guidelines on a saturday night. Martin Tuip MVP-Exchange - Original Message - From: Laura A. Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:21 PM Subject: OT: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile You know, you can actually do your own crashdump analysis. We even used to teach people how to do it back in the NT4 days. I loved that class. :-D Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Hoehn Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, Best practice used to be to put the pagefile on a different BUS than the OS. The idea is that you can read/write to both the OS and the PF at the same time. We always put the entire PF on a separate bus/drive in it's own partition. That way you have the added speed of a bus apart from the OS bus and a contiguous PF. We never bothered with a C: swapfile because we could never afford to send the dump to M$ for decryption. :-} Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, I have an answer and a question about the same. Most of my servers have 2 partition, one for the OS and the other for data, I always put the pagefile in the data partition, so yes, you can have the have the whole thing in a different partition or hard drive. Actually, Linux system always create a swap partition just for that purpose, so I wonder if it would be more efficient to always create a partition just for the pagefile... Anyone knows? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30
RE: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
That is pretty cool, where do I learn about this? do you know of a good url where it tells you how to do your own crashdump analysis? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:21 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: OT: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile You know, you can actually do your own crashdump analysis. We even used to teach people how to do it back in the NT4 days. I loved that class. :-D Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Hoehn Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, Best practice used to be to put the pagefile on a different BUS than the OS. The idea is that you can read/write to both the OS and the PF at the same time. We always put the entire PF on a separate bus/drive in it's own partition. That way you have the added speed of a bus apart from the OS bus and a contiguous PF. We never bothered with a C: swapfile because we could never afford to send the dump to M$ for decryption. :-} Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, I have an answer and a question about the same. Most of my servers have 2 partition, one for the OS and the other for data, I always put the pagefile in the data partition, so yes, you can have the have the whole thing in a different partition or hard drive. Actually, Linux system always create a swap partition just for that purpose, so I wonder if it would be more efficient to always create a partition just for the pagefile... Anyone knows? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http
Re: OT: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Heck even us SBSers know how to that :-) E-Bitz - SBS MVP the Official Blog of the SBS Diva : Hey Peter! That was pretty easy!: http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2006/04/25/92594.aspx E-Bitz - SBS MVP the Official Blog of the SBS Diva : Debugging 101: http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2006/06/22/102538.aspx E-Bitz - SBS MVP the Official Blog of the SBS Diva : The debug presentation from TechEd: http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2006/06/29/103239.aspx (call me wacko but I love crash dumps.. they are fun :-) Laura A. Robinson wrote: You know, you can actually do your own crashdump analysis. We even used to teach people how to do it back in the NT4 days. I loved that class. :-D Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Hoehn Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, Best practice used to be to put the pagefile on a different BUS than the OS. The idea is that you can read/write to both the OS and the PF at the same time. We always put the entire PF on a separate bus/drive in it's own partition. That way you have the added speed of a bus apart from the OS bus and a contiguous PF. We never bothered with a C: swapfile because we could never afford to send the dump to M$ for decryption. :-} Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, I have an answer and a question about the same. Most of my servers have 2 partition, one for the OS and the other for data, I always put the pagefile in the data partition, so yes, you can have the have the whole thing in a different partition or hard drive. Actually, Linux system always create a swap partition just for that purpose, so I wonder if it would be more efficient to always create a partition just for the pagefile... Anyone knows? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email
RE: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
I think Susan brought this up last week or so. Here's the link she gave. I can't find the original post http://blogs.technet.com/petergal/archive/2006/03/23/422993.aspx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:21 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: OT: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile You know, you can actually do your own crashdump analysis. We even used to teach people how to do it back in the NT4 days. I loved that class. :-D Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Hoehn Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, Best practice used to be to put the pagefile on a different BUS than the OS. The idea is that you can read/write to both the OS and the PF at the same time. We always put the entire PF on a separate bus/drive in it's own partition. That way you have the added speed of a bus apart from the OS bus and a contiguous PF. We never bothered with a C: swapfile because we could never afford to send the dump to M$ for decryption. :-} Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, I have an answer and a question about the same. Most of my servers have 2 partition, one for the OS and the other for data, I always put the pagefile in the data partition, so yes, you can have the have the whole thing in a different partition or hard drive. Actually, Linux system always create a swap partition just for that purpose, so I wonder if it would be more efficient to always create a partition just for the pagefile... Anyone knows? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ List info : http
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Are you able to connect to the server via Computer Management? Meaning, in the Computer Management console, can you right click on the server and choose Connect to.. or whatever it says, then connect to the problem server? If so, can you see the service statuses and event logs on the server? You can also connect to the remote machine's logs via the event log UI, but Computer Management has all the good goop in it, anyway. Can you telnet to the RDP port? Can you map a drive to a share on the server? When you say you can't log on, do you get the logon dialog box and a failure to let you log on, or do you get no remote desktop UI at all? Laura (probably a bit overcaffeinated now; can you tell?) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:35 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Laura wrote: That's only if you select the custom size radio button and try to set it to less than 16MB. If you select the no paging file option, it works fine. Very good. I just tried that on a test server, and that worked. However, I have a very different problem now. I went ahead and put 16Mb on my C: volume, and 4096Mb on my F: volume, rebooted, the server came up, Exchange is working, but I cannot log onto the server with Remote Desktops anymore. Are these related? Any advice as to how I can get Remote Desktops to this server working again will be greatly appreciated, as St. Louis is now experiencing one of its famous ice storms, and going in to where the server is just isn't an option right now. Larry Wahlers List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
OT: RE: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
That's how you spend your Saturday nights? I suddenly feel waaay cooler (socially speaking) than I did five minutes ago, I gotta tell ya. Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Tuip Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:48 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Beats having to read SEC17a and NASD guidelines on a saturday night. Martin Tuip MVP-Exchange - Original Message - From: Laura A. Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:21 PM Subject: OT: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile You know, you can actually do your own crashdump analysis. We even used to teach people how to do it back in the NT4 days. I loved that class. :-D Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Hoehn Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, Best practice used to be to put the pagefile on a different BUS than the OS. The idea is that you can read/write to both the OS and the PF at the same time. We always put the entire PF on a separate bus/drive in it's own partition. That way you have the added speed of a bus apart from the OS bus and a contiguous PF. We never bothered with a C: swapfile because we could never afford to send the dump to M$ for decryption. :-} Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, I have an answer and a question about the same. Most of my servers have 2 partition, one for the OS and the other for data, I always put the pagefile in the data partition, so yes, you can have the have the whole thing in a different partition or hard drive. Actually, Linux system always create a swap partition just for that purpose, so I wonder if it would be more efficient to always create a partition just for the pagefile... Anyone knows? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail
RE: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
This is Mark Russinovich's presentation from Tech Ed. http://www.microsoft.com/events/EventDetails.aspx?CMTYSvcSource=MSCOMMed iaParams=%7eCMTYDataSvcParams%5e%7earg+Name%3d%22ID%22+Value%3d%2210322 98076%22%2f%5e%7earg+Name%3d%22ProviderID%22+Value%3d%22A6B43178-497C-42 25-BA42-DF595171F04C%22%2f%5e%7earg+Name%3d%22lang%22+Value%3d%22en%22%2 f%5e%7earg+Name%3d%22cr%22+Value%3d%22US%22%2f%5e%7esParams%5e%7e%2fsPar ams%5e%7e%2fCMTYDataSvcParams%5e If that link doesn't work, it's towards the bottom of this page: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/default.mspx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:58 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile That is pretty cool, where do I learn about this? do you know of a good url where it tells you how to do your own crashdump analysis? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:21 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: OT: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile You know, you can actually do your own crashdump analysis. We even used to teach people how to do it back in the NT4 days. I loved that class. :-D Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Hoehn Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, Best practice used to be to put the pagefile on a different BUS than the OS. The idea is that you can read/write to both the OS and the PF at the same time. We always put the entire PF on a separate bus/drive in it's own partition. That way you have the added speed of a bus apart from the OS bus and a contiguous PF. We never bothered with a C: swapfile because we could never afford to send the dump to M$ for decryption. :-} Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, I have an answer and a question about the same. Most of my servers have 2 partition, one for the OS and the other for data, I always put the pagefile in the data partition, so yes, you can have the have the whole thing in a different partition or hard drive. Actually, Linux system always create a swap partition just for that purpose, so I wonder if it would be more efficient to always create a partition just for the pagefile... Anyone knows? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016
RE: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Ooh, I love it when people get all geeky. Here's a nice little laundry list of links (I love all this alliteration): http://labmice.techtarget.com/troubleshooting/memorydumps.htm If you subscribe to Windows IT Pro, Mark Russinovich [insert awed murmurs and supplicant posturing] wrote an article on it here: http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/16425/16425.html?Ad=1 ooorrr...you could click on them there handy links that Susan just sent and I'll quit copying and pasting now. :-) Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:58 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile That is pretty cool, where do I learn about this? do you know of a good url where it tells you how to do your own crashdump analysis? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:21 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: OT: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile You know, you can actually do your own crashdump analysis. We even used to teach people how to do it back in the NT4 days. I loved that class. :-D Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Hoehn Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, Best practice used to be to put the pagefile on a different BUS than the OS. The idea is that you can read/write to both the OS and the PF at the same time. We always put the entire PF on a separate bus/drive in it's own partition. That way you have the added speed of a bus apart from the OS bus and a contiguous PF. We never bothered with a C: swapfile because we could never afford to send the dump to M$ for decryption. :-} Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, I have an answer and a question about the same. Most of my servers have 2 partition, one for the OS and the other for data, I always put the pagefile in the data partition, so yes, you can have the have the whole thing in a different partition or hard drive. Actually, Linux system always create a swap partition just for that purpose, so I wonder if it would be more efficient to always create a partition just for the pagefile... Anyone knows? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp
OT: RE: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
I was out eating turkey. You people were reading the list? Dang, that's dedication! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Brunson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 5:22 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile I think Susan brought this up last week or so. Here's the link she gave. I can't find the original post http://blogs.technet.com/petergal/archive/2006/03/23/422993.aspx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:21 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: OT: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile You know, you can actually do your own crashdump analysis. We even used to teach people how to do it back in the NT4 days. I loved that class. :-D Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Hoehn Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:15 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, Best practice used to be to put the pagefile on a different BUS than the OS. The idea is that you can read/write to both the OS and the PF at the same time. We always put the entire PF on a separate bus/drive in it's own partition. That way you have the added speed of a bus apart from the OS bus and a contiguous PF. We never bothered with a C: swapfile because we could never afford to send the dump to M$ for decryption. :-} Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:07 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Hi, I have an answer and a question about the same. Most of my servers have 2 partition, one for the OS and the other for data, I always put the pagefile in the data partition, so yes, you can have the have the whole thing in a different partition or hard drive. Actually, Linux system always create a swap partition just for that purpose, so I wonder if it would be more efficient to always create a partition just for the pagefile... Anyone knows? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:09 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile Sorry for the reply to my own post, but this article: http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kbase/WindowsTips/Windows2003 /AdminTips /Miscellaneous/EnhancePerformancebyMovingthePagefile.html says I can move the whole thing to a different partition. I'll leave a meg on the C drive just for the dumpfile, which we limit to 64K, in case the system crashes and I can actually figure out how to read the dumpfile. But, really, is it OK to leave absolutely NO pagefile on C:/? We normally leave at least 200Mb on the C: partition when we move the rest to a different drive. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Wahlers Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Split pagefile Colleagues, Is there a best practice for splitting the pagefile on Exchange 2003 across multiple drives? My C drive is up to nearly 9GB used out of 10GB, and I'd like to move off most of the 3GB pagefile to maybe the database drive. We have only 500 users on that system, so performance shouldn't be too much of an issue. Thanks in advance, folks. -- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] direct office line: (314) 996-1876 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/ List info : http
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Thanks for replying, Laura! You wrote: Are you able to connect to the server via Computer Management? Yes. If so, can you see the service statuses and event logs on the server? Yes. I looked all through the event logs, and didn't see anything relating to terminal services failures. And the terminal services service is started. Can you telnet to the RDP port? If you mean, can I telnet to the server by name or by its IP address, no. But yes, I can telnet to port 3389 on the server, and the cursor sits there and blinks at me, but as soon as I hit any key, I get back to my command prompt. P:\telnet ctms100 Connecting To ctms100...Could not open connection to the host, on port 23: Conne ct failed Can you map a drive to a share on the server? Yes. And, in fact, I have the same 2Gb pagefile on C: that I had before, and no pagefile on E: So, I'm thinking that A. I forgot to hit the set button, or B. The server got confused. When you say you can't log on, do you get the logon dialog box and a failure to let you log on, or do you get no remote desktop UI at all? No remote desktop UI at all. I immediately get the disconnected from server message. Laura (probably a bit overcaffeinated now; can you tell?) No problem. I'm snowed in, but the server is running. I guess what I'd like to do is see if I can reset the pagefile and reboot the server, all remotely, and still manage to terminal service to it and log in. Thanks for your help, Laura. You deserve many pats on the back, attagirls, and stuff. Larry Wahlers List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Split pagefile
Inline... Thanks for replying, Laura! Sure thing. You wrote: Are you able to connect to the server via Computer Management? Yes. Then you can use that to reconfigure the pagefile, making very, very sure you click Set. :-) After you've connected to it in CM, right click the computer, choose Properties, go to the Advanced tab, yada yada yada. If so, can you see the service statuses and event logs on the server? Yes. I looked all through the event logs, and didn't see anything relating to terminal services failures. And the terminal services service is started. How about the security log? Are you seeing logon failures? Can you telnet to the RDP port? If you mean, can I telnet to the server by name or by its IP address, no. But yes, I can telnet to port 3389 on the server, and the cursor sits there and blinks at me, but as soon as I hit any key, I get back to my command prompt. Okay, port's open. Can you map a drive to a share on the server? Yes. And, in fact, I have the same 2Gb pagefile on C: that I had before, and no pagefile on E: So, I'm thinking that A. I forgot to hit the set button, or B. The server got confused. The snow might have made it sluggish. (That's a joke, folks.) See above for remedy (hopefully). When you say you can't log on, do you get the logon dialog box and a failure to let you log on, or do you get no remote desktop UI at all? No remote desktop UI at all. I immediately get the disconnected from server message. Okay. Try logging on with a different account that has TS connection permissions. Check the security logs. If you're not auditing logon events, you'll need to do that. Check the terminal services permissions, etc. Maybe do a preemptive reboot (or just do it as part of that pagefile adjustment) and see if anything changes. If none of that works, there's still more stuff to check, but I'm tired of typing right now and hopefully one of the above things will determine the issue. Laura (probably a bit overcaffeinated now; can you tell?) No problem. I'm snowed in, but the server is running. I guess what I'd like to do is see if I can reset the pagefile and reboot the server, all remotely, and still manage to terminal service to it and log in. Thanks for your help, Laura. You deserve many pats on the back, attagirls, and stuff. No problem, and no pats necessary. Laura -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/559 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 5:07 AM List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir@mail.activedir.org/
