RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro
In hockey they do North America verses the World. Hehe Todd -Original Message- From: Daniel Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro Might need to be the Americans against the Canadians since the next DEC is scheduled for Vancouver B.C. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CIT) Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro Well maybe at the Next DEC Gil will have another AD Set of AD challenges for the Americans verses the Europeans. What do you think Gil? Toddler -Original Message- From: Ulf B. Simon-Weidner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geary, Simon (Computer People) Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:29 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro I had the same experience as you Ulf. I'm from Scotland and when I registered I was told I could only download the ebook but not register for the actual contest. This is a shame as everyone knows that the best Active Directory Pros are from Europe. :) :-D Gruesse - Sincerely, Ulf B. Simon-Weidner MVP-Book Windows XP - Die Expertentipps: http://tinyurl.com/44zcz Weblog: http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner WebSite: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro
I had the same experience as you Ulf. I'm from Scotland and when I registered I was told I could only download the ebook but not register for the actual contest. This is a shame as everyone knows that the best Active Directory Pros are from Europe. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B. Simon-Weidner Sent: 30 November 2004 07:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro Weired, I've tried that too but was only provided with the download of the guide, the Text of the hyperlink was there but not the hyperlink itself. And previous I received a message stating that I won't be allowed to participate but welcome to read the guide. Gruesse - Sincerely, Ulf B. Simon-Weidner MVP-Book Windows XP - Die Expertentipps: http://tinyurl.com/44zcz Weblog: http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner WebSite: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tomasz Onyszko Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro Ulf B. Simon-Weidner wrote: Worse - I would have liked to participate as well, but they didn't say that we don't qualify if we win, they just allowed access to the guide and not to participate without getting a price. US-only. Would have been nicer to keep the price in the US (if they need to) but to let everyone take part in the contest. So PrOlympics? Don't think so - sounds like Olympics and they are international and not just of a single country. Bad for the winner - he didn't really show off that much. No Ulf, I was able to take the test and the labs even that I'm from Poland and in the registration I choose Poland as my country - after registration I'v just clicked test and then I can pass it -- Tomasz Onyszko [MVP] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.w2k.pl List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 08:28:50 -, Geary, Simon (Computer People) wrote I had the same experience as you Ulf. I'm from Scotland and when I registered I was told I could only download the ebook but not Yes, they told me too but I just clicked link on the page and it works register for the actual contest. This is a shame as everyone knows that the best Active Directory Pros are from Europe. :) I will strongly agree with it :))) -- Tomasz Onyszko - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.w2k.pl List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geary, Simon (Computer People) Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:29 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro I had the same experience as you Ulf. I'm from Scotland and when I registered I was told I could only download the ebook but not register for the actual contest. This is a shame as everyone knows that the best Active Directory Pros are from Europe. :) :-D Gruesse - Sincerely, Ulf B. Simon-Weidner MVP-Book Windows XP - Die Expertentipps: http://tinyurl.com/44zcz Weblog: http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner WebSite: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro
Brian, I the Labs appear to be available, my class did them last night together. This time, Lab 2 showed more of Lingering object problem on the one DC. I ran the Repadmin command to remove the Lingering object on both DCs and waited. Still no dice, so I then tried to remove the problem zone no dice. Still failed. Todd From: Brian Desmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 6:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro I was going to do it, but I saw the fine print said I didn't qualify if I won so I didn't bother figuring it was just a bunch of multiple choice questions. Too bad - the labs would've been fun. --Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Payton on the web! www.wpcp.org v - 773.534.0034 x135 f - 773.534.8101 From: Myrick, Todd (NIH/CIT) Sent: Mon 11/29/2004 2:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro Greetings,So who here took the Windows IT Pro challenge? What did you all think? Thechallenge ended yesterday. So I figure it is a safe topic to talk aboutnow.My impressions are as follows.Overall I had a good time taking the challenge. I think the overall conceptis very good, and I challenged my Windows 2003 students to take thechallenge as well.I initially took the exam and did pretty well on the Multiple Choicesection, and the Virtual Lab's except for Lab 2. That one I didn't pass.(The one with replication problems.) Later I discovered that the multiple choice questions were actually off ofone of the Penton certification sites. The answers were not in the sameorder, and there were different questions each time you took the exam. (Itool the exam twice... to see if I could figure out Lab 2)The Lab sessions gave you about 90 minutes to step through the process toachieve the results outlined in the Labs. This is enough time to finish thefirst and third lab, but I think they should have given 2 hours for thesecond lab.The first lab was a GPO lab that required you to create a GPO to push our XPSP2. Pretty easy lab. Just have to extract the files, create a sharepoint, and then create the GPO to assign the software package to computerson a specific OU.The second lab was a lot more challenging. There is a domain with two DC'sthat aren't replicating. Both times I tool this exam I figured that it wasdue to one machine not replicating with the other for more than 60 days. SoI went through the process of dcpromo /forceremoval and NTDSUTIL cleanup.Also the RID Master is not available, so you have to make a decision on whatDC to save. The one with the PDC emulator isn't the Infrastructure Master,Domain Naming Master, or Schema Master. I chose to seize the PDC Emulatorvia GUI on the DC that ran the testing software (Paris), and then usedNTDSUTIL to transfer the RIS Master role since the GUI didn't work. On myfirst attempt, I didn't rename the old DC, and recreated the computeraccount using the original name. (Denver) That didn't seem to work though.Although I thought the test user account I created synced.The second time I did the lab, I gave the computer a different name (Basedon Jeremy M's recommendation in his ebook, and it still didn't work. Alsoinstead of using AD integrated DNS on the DC rebuild, I used Stub Zones, andI transferred the Infrastructure Master to the DC since it wasn't a GC. Ithought replication was working better this time through but I still failed.One thing I can't remember is if I checked the DNS to make sure all the_Zones for AD got created. The _MSDCS.contoso.com was its own zone. Ican't remember if I checked to make sure _TCP, _UDP, _Sites were created inthe contoso.com zone. (Hind site is always 20/20) I think they werebecause the NETDIAG and DCDIAG didn't report any problems with the DNSzones. So any insight on what I missed would be appreciated.Lab 3 was also pretty easy. Setup a Trust and then give a user access tofiles from on of the forest. Just had to setup DNS zone transfers, updatethe one domain to 2003 forest mode, and then create a trust between the twoforest. Then update the share point, and access the share using the userscredentials.Like I said, overall a very enjoyable experience except for the replicationLab. Todd List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htmList FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htmList archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro
Well maybe at the Next DEC Gil will have another AD Set of AD challenges for the Americans verses the Europeans. What do you think Gil? Toddler -Original Message- From: Ulf B. Simon-Weidner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geary, Simon (Computer People) Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:29 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro I had the same experience as you Ulf. I'm from Scotland and when I registered I was told I could only download the ebook but not register for the actual contest. This is a shame as everyone knows that the best Active Directory Pros are from Europe. :) :-D Gruesse - Sincerely, Ulf B. Simon-Weidner MVP-Book Windows XP - Die Expertentipps: http://tinyurl.com/44zcz Weblog: http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner WebSite: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro
Might need to be the Americans against the Canadians since the next DEC is scheduled for Vancouver B.C. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd (NIH/CIT) Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 4:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro Well maybe at the Next DEC Gil will have another AD Set of AD challenges for the Americans verses the Europeans. What do you think Gil? Toddler -Original Message- From: Ulf B. Simon-Weidner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geary, Simon (Computer People) Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:29 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro I had the same experience as you Ulf. I'm from Scotland and when I registered I was told I could only download the ebook but not register for the actual contest. This is a shame as everyone knows that the best Active Directory Pros are from Europe. :) :-D Gruesse - Sincerely, Ulf B. Simon-Weidner MVP-Book Windows XP - Die Expertentipps: http://tinyurl.com/44zcz Weblog: http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner WebSite: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro
I was going to do it, but I saw the fine print said I didn't qualify if I won so I didn't bother figuring it was just a bunch of multiple choice questions. Too bad - the labs would've been fun. --Brian Desmond[EMAIL PROTECTED]Payton on the web! www.wpcp.orgv - 773.534.0034 x135f - 773.534.8101 From: Myrick, Todd (NIH/CIT)Sent: Mon 11/29/2004 2:42 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro Greetings, So who here took the Windows IT Pro challenge? What did you all think? The challenge ended yesterday. So I figure it is a safe topic to talk about now. My impressions are as follows. Overall I had a good time taking the challenge. I think the overall concept is very good, and I challenged my Windows 2003 students to take the challenge as well. I initially took the exam and did pretty well on the Multiple Choice section, and the Virtual Lab's except for Lab 2. That one I didn't pass. (The one with replication problems.) Later I discovered that the multiple choice questions were actually off of one of the Penton certification sites. The answers were not in the same order, and there were different questions each time you took the exam. (I tool the exam twice... to see if I could figure out Lab 2) The Lab sessions gave you about 90 minutes to step through the process to achieve the results outlined in the Labs. This is enough time to finish the first and third lab, but I think they should have given 2 hours for the second lab. The first lab was a GPO lab that required you to create a GPO to push our XP SP2. Pretty easy lab. Just have to extract the files, create a share point, and then create the GPO to assign the software package to computers on a specific OU. The second lab was a lot more challenging. There is a domain with two DC's that aren't replicating. Both times I tool this exam I figured that it was due to one machine not replicating with the other for more than 60 days. So I went through the process of dcpromo /forceremoval and NTDSUTIL cleanup. Also the RID Master is not available, so you have to make a decision on what DC to save. The one with the PDC emulator isn't the Infrastructure Master, Domain Naming Master, or Schema Master. I chose to seize the PDC Emulator via GUI on the DC that ran the testing software (Paris), and then used NTDSUTIL to transfer the RIS Master role since the GUI didn't work. On my first attempt, I didn't rename the old DC, and recreated the computer account using the original name. (Denver) That didn't seem to work though. Although I thought the test user account I created synced. The second time I did the lab, I gave the computer a different name (Based on Jeremy M's recommendation in his ebook, and it still didn't work. Also instead of using AD integrated DNS on the DC rebuild, I used Stub Zones, and I transferred the Infrastructure Master to the DC since it wasn't a GC. I thought replication was working better this time through but I still failed. One thing I can't remember is if I checked the DNS to make sure all the _Zones for AD got created. The _MSDCS.contoso.com was its own zone. I can't remember if I checked to make sure _TCP, _UDP, _Sites were created in the contoso.com zone. (Hind site is always 20/20) I think they were because the NETDIAG and DCDIAG didn't report any problems with the DNS zones. So any insight on what I missed would be appreciated. Lab 3 was also pretty easy. Setup a Trust and then give a user access to files from on of the forest. Just had to setup DNS zone transfers, update the one domain to 2003 forest mode, and then create a trust between the two forest. Then update the share point, and access the share using the users credentials. Like I said, overall a very enjoyable experience except for the replication Lab. Todd List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
Re: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro
Ulf B. Simon-Weidner wrote: Worse - I would have liked to participate as well, but they didn't say that we don't qualify if we win, they just allowed access to the guide and not to participate without getting a price. US-only. Would have been nicer to keep the price in the US (if they need to) but to let everyone take part in the contest. So PrOlympics? Don't think so - sounds like Olympics and they are international and not just of a single country. Bad for the winner - he didn't really show off that much. No Ulf, I was able to take the test and the labs even that I'm from Poland and in the registration I choose Poland as my country - after registration I'v just clicked test and then I can pass it -- Tomasz Onyszko [MVP] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.w2k.pl List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro
Weired, I've tried that too but was only provided with the download of the guide, the Text of the hyperlink was there but not the hyperlink itself. And previous I received a message stating that I won't be allowed to participate but welcome to read the guide. Gruesse - Sincerely, Ulf B. Simon-Weidner MVP-Book Windows XP - Die Expertentipps: http://tinyurl.com/44zcz Weblog: http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner WebSite: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tomasz Onyszko Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 7:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] IT PrOlympics Challenge on WindowsITPro Ulf B. Simon-Weidner wrote: Worse - I would have liked to participate as well, but they didn't say that we don't qualify if we win, they just allowed access to the guide and not to participate without getting a price. US-only. Would have been nicer to keep the price in the US (if they need to) but to let everyone take part in the contest. So PrOlympics? Don't think so - sounds like Olympics and they are international and not just of a single country. Bad for the winner - he didn't really show off that much. No Ulf, I was able to take the test and the labs even that I'm from Poland and in the registration I choose Poland as my country - after registration I'v just clicked test and then I can pass it -- Tomasz Onyszko [MVP] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.w2k.pl List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
