Re: Veritas/Legato/ArcServ
Hi, I can tell you about Arcserve... With Arcserve you do a full / incrementals unless the server is small then just full. So you see a lot of space waste. There are about 11 month, 4 year and 7 week tapes so adds up to 22 tapes per server (there is no extra copy for when a tape goes bad). With collocation on TSM restores are faster then the Arcserve... solution (which also depends on the tape technology your using on both accounts). Without collocation restores times are mostly equal, dependend on the amount of files (less is faster, more is slower). But then restores should be much faster with TSM version 5.1 and its multiple restore streams. Regards, Robert Brilmayer Not specifically TSM question but more of a question to better understand how to discuss pro's/cons to other competing products. Since my background is all TSM, I'm curious on how the other competitors handle media. Is my assumption correct that they waste a lot of tape space? As far as I understand it, all these products do traditional full/incremental type backups where each full and incremental uses a tape. Thus Server 1 would suck up 7 tapes in a week (1 full, 6 incrementals). Is this true? Or can these products actually put 2 full's on a single tape? Or multiple incrementals on a single tape?
Re: Second copy of a backup
Hi, A backupset wastes a lot of space (one node, one tape). DRM and Archiving is the easiest way to handle this, because then you don't need to keep track of what is on which tape. But if you do not have DRM, then I would recommend an EXPORT. With an EXPORT you can export the active and/or inactive data. You can put multiple nodes on a export tape and it doesn't fill the database. And when you need to restore a tape you just import the filespace you want to disk pool and restore it to the node. Both exports and backupsets do not have copies, just in case your tape is destroyed. Regards, Robert Brilmayer Hi, i want to generate a copy of the data of a node to be taken offsite, it would be best if this copy doesn4t uses DB space, what i have in mind is something like a backup set - version level is there a way to do this? the requirement is for taking a copy of the monthly backup data of a node to the offsite vault. thanks for any idea. LT _ Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Veritas/Legato/ArcServ
I can speak to Veritas NetBackup. You are correct that a tape is created for each full and incremental, but there is a feature in NetBackup that allows you to multiplex the server saves to a single tape up to a limit you specify. This really great until you try to duplicate the tapes for offsite storage. The duplications tape literally exponentially longer as the number of files gets larger. We found it quicker to run the full backup twice than to duplicate the tapes. The backup involved ran for about 20 hours on a full to get the two copies. This was using Magstar tape and Shark disk, big file system on a high end UNIX SGI machine. The real issue is NetBackup supports the original and a duplicate only. It supports 9 retention periods only. It does not have a deleted file policy, so once the tapes expire the data is gone. It is tape expiration oriented instead of object. It has a tape catalog and what files are on the tapes. When you do an incremental restore there is no directory structure rebuild, meaning that files that have been deleted are restored, so the concept of put the system at point in time does not exist. This can play havoc with applications using touch files to signal application progressing. You talk about more tapes, but more tapes also means more tape drives to process. There is no disk pool concept in NetBackup. It is written directly to tape, period. This is where TSM eats NetBackups Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner and Midnight Snack. We took a 12 Magstar drive NetBackup windows environment using about 180K of NT hardware and migrated it to TSM using 6 drives and a AIX P660. Nothing else changed except it freed up 6 high end NT servers. Instead of running a few of our 108 servers each night on full backups and round robin throughout the week, no C: drive backups, no point in time restore capability, duplicates often late getting offsite, only 2 weeks of recover, we now have a primary, onsite copy, offsite copy and sit around joking about the days of the NetBackup debacle we extracated. The company is about to adopt a daily offsite strategy. Thank you TSM for making it a possibility. Plain and Simple. NetBackup is extremely expensive to run. The maintenance on the software is much higher than TSM, it costs more than TSM, it uses at least twice as much hardware as TSM, has horrible support, and just plain does not scale. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Wiley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Veritas/Legato/ArcServ Gerald, I use to work with Veritas, and I may soon be back in that boat..(not by chioice) You are correct , we wasted a lot of tape.. And the quick recovery time was dependant on the Offsite vendor returning our media.. We set up our clients in different classes(TSM's version of stgpools schedules) they would dump their data to the diskpool and copy would take place soon after. At the time we didn't have a way to collocate so the data could span multiple tapes.. (Don't know what that is like today) If client a needed a restore, client x,y and z's data would have to return in order for us to get all the required data restored for client a .. But this was a couple years ago~ Gabriel C. Wiley ADSM/TSM Administrator AIX Support Phone 1-614-308-6709 Pager 1-877-489-2867 Fax 1-614-308-6637 Cell 1-740-972-6441 Siempre Hay Esperanza Gerald Wichmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Veritas/Legato/ArcServ Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 04/17/2002 01:19 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Not specifically TSM question but more of a question to better understand how to discuss pro's/cons to other competing products. Since my background is all TSM, I'm curious on how the other competitors handle media. Is my assumption correct that they waste a lot of tape space? As far as I understand it, all these products do traditional full/incremental type backups where each full and incremental uses a tape. Thus Server 1 would suck up 7 tapes in a week (1 full, 6 incrementals). Is this true? Or can these products actually put 2 full's on a single tape? Or multiple incrementals on a single tape?
2 identical libraries and 1 TSM Server.
Hi all, I have 2 libraries 3584. When I define the drives in the first library no pb. def drive lib1 drive1 element=256 But when I define de drive in de second library. def drive LIB2 DRIVE55 element=256 I get a msg : ANR8419E DEFINE DRIVE: element conflicts... 1.- What should the element be?? 2.- Has somebody a similar configuration, 2 identical libraries and 1 tsm server ? Thanks in advance, FRAN. ___ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger Comunicacisn instantanea gratis con tu gente. http://messenger.yahoo.es
Re: Veritas/Legato/ArcServ
Not specifically TSM question but more of a question to better understand how to discuss pro's/cons to other competing products. Since my background is all TSM, I'm curious on how the other competitors handle media. Is my assumption correct that they waste a lot of tape space? As far as I understand it, all these products do traditional full/incremental type backups where each full and incremental uses a tape. Thus Server 1 would suck up 7 tapes in a week (1 full, 6 incrementals). Is this true? Or can these products actually put 2 full's on a single tape? Or multiple incrementals on a single tape? Hi, I have limitted experience with Legato, but it too, like TSM, puts all backups of one node, both full and incremental, in one storagepool, even does full and incremantal on the same tape if possible... -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Remco Post SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdamhttp://www.sara.nl High Performance Computing Tel. +31 20 592 8008Fax. +31 20 668 3167 I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry didn't even foresee that the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams
Re: SAN Problem - TDP for SAP on Windows 2000
Thanks Paul, I'll try it and let you know. Regards Gerrit van Zyl -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Seay, Paul Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SAN Problem - TDP for SAP on Windows 2000 Been here, seen this, fixed this. Actually we found the solution on the Knowledge base but the answer in the knowledge base is wrong. Sorry, I do not remember the KB solution number, but this is what you have to do. The default in the Device\Parameters section for the Qlogic card defaults to 0x21. The KB says to change it to at least 131 from 21. What it meant to say is 131 decimal. We set it to 255 or 0xFF and now the SAN agent works fine. The issue is the tape header blocks are read/written as one on the SAN agent apparently differently than the server. The result is what you see. The keyword to set is MaximumSGList. Sorry I cannot remember the HKEY for this. -Original Message- From: Joe Cascanette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SAN Problem - TDP for SAP on Windows 2000 Are you using Removable Storage on the Windows2000 server attached to the SAN connected tape unit?, or are you using the drivers supplied by Tivoli (device drivers)?. My server is NT based (not sure about the AIX based) and I am using the Tivoli drivers to connect to my tape storage. I noticed since I needed to disable the Removable Storage service on my Windows 2000 server attached to the SAN to get this to work correctly. Some how the 2 drivers were fighting for control, by disabling this service Tivoli's device drivers had no problem. Joe -Original Message- From: Gerrit van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SAN Problem - TDP for SAP on Windows 2000 Hi all TSM'ers The setup: TSM 4.2.1.0 Server on AIX 4.3. TSM 4.2.1.26 Client on Windows 2000 TSM Storageagent 4.2.0.1 on Windows 2000 TDP for SAP on Windows 2000 The Win2000 is connected to the SAN via a Qlogic card. When we start a SAP backup, the tape gets mounted in the correct tape drive, however the following error occurs: (output from dsmsta) ANR0400I Session 6 started for node BSASAP31 (TDP R3 WINNT) (Named Pipe). ANR8337I LTO volume 541ABW mounted in drive DRIVE1 (\\.\Tape2). ANR8938E The adapter for tape drive DRIVE1 (\\.\Tape2) cannot handle the block size needed to use the volume. ANR8468I LTO volume 541ABW dismounted from drive DRIVE1 (\\.\Tape2) in library LIB3584. ANR1401W Mount request denied for volume 541ABW - mount failed. Any ideas as to why it complains about the block size and how to fix it? Thanks and regards ~~ Gerrit van Zyl Tel: +27 11 800 7400 Fax: +27 11 802 3814 Cell: +27 82 570 4266 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.faritec.co.za ~~
Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean (RESOLVED)
Old Value-Based Pricing (VBP) scheme was distinguishing only the *servers* but not clients. New Enhanced VBP (EVBP) is counting the number of processors on both servers and nodes: 1. Processors managed by the product (i.e. processors on TSM nodes) 2. Processors in which the managing server is installed (i.e. processors on the TSM servers) I already pointed the major source of this information (IBM EMEA Announcement Letter ZP02-0172) and provided the URL. The explanation what this brief description means was found in an internal IBM presentation and neither I've seen it nor have any right (and chance) to quote parts of it. So those TSM installations which have many workstations, uniprocessor PC server nodes and UNIX server nodes with up to 3-4 processors would get benefit of new pricing. Others using TSM mostly for backup of servers (and especially mid-class multi-processor servers) would see price increase for new licenses. Example 8-proc AIX/HP-UX/Solaris box required one Tier 2 MgSysLAN license and now requires 8 Processor Charge Units. Same for LAN-free - MgSysSAN license is less expensive than 8 ISM EE processor licenses. And if you go to Enterprise Edition because of *ONE* server all other processors are at the higher price. I still do have to get an answer can customer buy ISM and ISM EE licenses. The question how goes the migration of VBP Tivoli Management Points (TMPs) to EVBP processors/clients still stays unanswered. I'll keep in touch. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean (RESOLVED) This is not what happens when you try to order Tivoli. It is based on the number of processors in the server. The server code is not free. I would get your Tivoli rep to check, because this is not what I was told by Tivoli. Now they have done some things with pricing to make it less expensive for smaller customers, but nothing I have found said that the server code was free. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg Tice Sent: April 17, 2002 6:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean (RESOLVED) For what it is worth, below is some 'plain english' verbiage our Tivoli rep sent to us regarding the new pricing structure. Hope this helps clarify things a small bit. IBM announced TSM V.5 last week and this announcement included new pricing. TSM is now priced based upon the number of processors in the backup client machines and there is no charge for the TSM server software. This will reduce the cost of TSM in small environments and increase the cost for large installs. Greg P. Tice Enterprise Storage Management Schneider Technology Services Rushforth, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PEG.MB.CA cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Fax to: Stor Manager Subject: Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean [EMAIL PROTECTED](RESOLVED) U 04/17/2002 15:31 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi Zlatko: Where did you find the definitions for Processors and Clients. Thanks, Tim Rushforth City of Winnipeg -Original Message- From: Zlatko Krastev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 5:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean (RESOLVED) Hello fellow *SMers, even if I do not like the answer we've found it. According to IBM EMEA Announcement Letter ZP02-0172 (http://www.ibmlink.ibm.com/emealetsparms=H_ERIFZP020172), Section Ordering IBM Tivoli Products One or more charge units are associated with each product. These charge units are: - Processors managed by the product - Clients managed by the product - Distributed servers managed by the product - zSeries processors managed by the product - Processors in which the managing server is installed Processors are based upon TSM server and TSM *nodes* processors if they are servers in customer application environment. If it is a workstation (appl. client) it requires client license and no processors. So if we have an (imaginary) ISM installation consisting of dual-processor TSM server, cluster of two four-processor Oracle servers, uniprocessor file server, uniprocessor MDC and 20 dual-processor Xeon/2GHz CAD stations, we would need 12 processor and 20 client charge units for IBM TSM (5698-ISM) or IBM TSM EE (5698-ISE) and (optional) eight processors for IBM TSM for Databases (5698-APD). Right now I cannot calculate all possible configurations nor predict any averages or stats but
Re: SAN Problem - TDP for SAP on Windows 2000 (It is Tivoli flash 3)
Paul, This look like the problem Tivoli have already warned us in their 3-rd flash alert (http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/flash_hba.html) From TSM Support page (http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/index.html) select Flashes Known Problems and from there go to FLASH 3 - Please Read!. There is another LAN-free important flash - 2-nd. I'll test next week SAN with Windows 2000 TSM server and see is the problem still current. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: SAN Problem - TDP for SAP on Windows 2000 Been here, seen this, fixed this. Actually we found the solution on the Knowledge base but the answer in the knowledge base is wrong. Sorry, I do not remember the KB solution number, but this is what you have to do. The default in the Device\Parameters section for the Qlogic card defaults to 0x21. The KB says to change it to at least 131 from 21. What it meant to say is 131 decimal. We set it to 255 or 0xFF and now the SAN agent works fine. The issue is the tape header blocks are read/written as one on the SAN agent apparently differently than the server. The result is what you see. The keyword to set is MaximumSGList. Sorry I cannot remember the HKEY for this. -Original Message- From: Joe Cascanette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SAN Problem - TDP for SAP on Windows 2000 Are you using Removable Storage on the Windows2000 server attached to the SAN connected tape unit?, or are you using the drivers supplied by Tivoli (device drivers)?. My server is NT based (not sure about the AIX based) and I am using the Tivoli drivers to connect to my tape storage. I noticed since I needed to disable the Removable Storage service on my Windows 2000 server attached to the SAN to get this to work correctly. Some how the 2 drivers were fighting for control, by disabling this service Tivoli's device drivers had no problem. Joe -Original Message- From: Gerrit van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SAN Problem - TDP for SAP on Windows 2000 Hi all TSM'ers The setup: TSM 4.2.1.0 Server on AIX 4.3. TSM 4.2.1.26 Client on Windows 2000 TSM Storageagent 4.2.0.1 on Windows 2000 TDP for SAP on Windows 2000 The Win2000 is connected to the SAN via a Qlogic card. When we start a SAP backup, the tape gets mounted in the correct tape drive, however the following error occurs: (output from dsmsta) ANR0400I Session 6 started for node BSASAP31 (TDP R3 WINNT) (Named Pipe). ANR8337I LTO volume 541ABW mounted in drive DRIVE1 (\\.\Tape2). ANR8938E The adapter for tape drive DRIVE1 (\\.\Tape2) cannot handle the block size needed to use the volume. ANR8468I LTO volume 541ABW dismounted from drive DRIVE1 (\\.\Tape2) in library LIB3584. ANR1401W Mount request denied for volume 541ABW - mount failed. Any ideas as to why it complains about the block size and how to fix it? Thanks and regards ~~ Gerrit van Zyl Tel: +27 11 800 7400 Fax: +27 11 802 3814 Cell: +27 82 570 4266 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.faritec.co.za ~~
My TSM does not like Librarystation
Folks I try to have TSM 4.2.2, resp. the included ACSLSAPI programs (ssi, mini_el) talk to a libstation running on OS/390. No errormessage on startup /usr/tivoli/tsm/devices/bin/rc.acs_ssi, but lbtest option 51 52 just dont give me something usefull back. The connection to libstation basically works, as I have ssi installed on another box, driven by another backupproduct, and there it works. IP connectivity is OK, rpcinfo shows corresponding services registered, nameresolution works bothways. Suspicious is, that when I kill the ssi and mini_el, STATUS_QUEUE_FAILURE message comes up as many times I tried lbtest, and it gives me a remote internet address of 0.0.0.0, which obviousely is not really healthy... Any idea about what apart from the IP adress of the LibStation server I can modify/tune/trace? Any hint where I can look for the problem? Anyone running the same config? (TSM on AIX, Libstation on OS/390, STK Powderhorn) ...and yup, I am aware that all would be well if I would u$e gresham's EDT... Thanks and have a good day Gaetano Bisaz
Re: 2 identical libraries and 1 TSM Server.
Fran, You can find a device table on here: http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/devices/atab101.htm Note: we use W2K with the TSM device driver (TSM 4.2.1) and started with device 257 in our 3584. Regards, Jan Norback -Original Message- From: Francisco Molero [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 2 identical libraries and 1 TSM Server. Hi all, I have 2 libraries 3584. When I define the drives in the first library no pb. def drive lib1 drive1 element=256 But when I define de drive in de second library. def drive LIB2 DRIVE55 element=256 I get a msg : ANR8419E DEFINE DRIVE: element conflicts... 1.- What should the element be?? 2.- Has somebody a similar configuration, 2 identical libraries and 1 tsm server ? Thanks in advance, FRAN. ___ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger Comunicacisn instantanea gratis con tu gente. http://messenger.yahoo.es
Re: SAP R/3 error messages
As per my knowledge BRxxx messages are SAP R/3's own messages and can be found in BRBACKUP and BRARCHIVE log files located in oracle/SID/sapbackup and /oracle/SID/saparch directories. These log files and message numbers have nothing to do with TDP for R/3. You will get BRxxx messages when you are taking backup or archive of SAP R/3 data without using TDP for R/3. Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Tomá? Hrouda throuda@HTD.To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CZ cc: Sent by: Subject: SAP R/3 error messages ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 04/17/2002 08:47 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi all, where can I find description of TDP SAP R/3 client error messages (type BRxxx founded in client backup log). I hadn't found it in TDP SAP IU Guide. This error appears in log during SAP redologs backup with BRARCHIVE command. Any help will be appreciated. Tom
Re: Veritas/Legato/ArcServ
Hi Using incrementals on Veritas Netbackup has a disadvantage; it slow down restores. There is support cases at Veritas confirming that when using incremental backups, restore times can take up to 10 times normal time. The solution for this, according to Veritas, is to use full backups instead of incremental. And, when using multiplexing, the restore won't go that much faster. Netbackup still has to do a partial restore;first the full backup, then the incrementals. This is not a effective way of doing restores... Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervägen 6B 183 62 HÄGERNÄS Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Seay, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-04-18 05:28 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Veritas/Legato/ArcServ I can speak to Veritas NetBackup. You are correct that a tape is created for each full and incremental, but there is a feature in NetBackup that allows you to multiplex the server saves to a single tape up to a limit you specify. This really great until you try to duplicate the tapes for offsite storage. The duplications tape literally exponentially longer as the number of files gets larger. We found it quicker to run the full backup twice than to duplicate the tapes. The backup involved ran for about 20 hours on a full to get the two copies. This was using Magstar tape and Shark disk, big file system on a high end UNIX SGI machine. The real issue is NetBackup supports the original and a duplicate only. It supports 9 retention periods only. It does not have a deleted file policy, so once the tapes expire the data is gone. It is tape expiration oriented instead of object. It has a tape catalog and what files are on the tapes. When you do an incremental restore there is no directory structure rebuild, meaning that files that have been deleted are restored, so the concept of put the system at point in time does not exist. This can play havoc with applications using touch files to signal application progressing. You talk about more tapes, but more tapes also means more tape drives to process. There is no disk pool concept in NetBackup. It is written directly to tape, period. This is where TSM eats NetBackups Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner and Midnight Snack. We took a 12 Magstar drive NetBackup windows environment using about 180K of NT hardware and migrated it to TSM using 6 drives and a AIX P660. Nothing else changed except it freed up 6 high end NT servers. Instead of running a few of our 108 servers each night on full backups and round robin throughout the week, no C: drive backups, no point in time restore capability, duplicates often late getting offsite, only 2 weeks of recover, we now have a primary, onsite copy, offsite copy and sit around joking about the days of the NetBackup debacle we extracated. The company is about to adopt a daily offsite strategy. Thank you TSM for making it a possibility. Plain and Simple. NetBackup is extremely expensive to run. The maintenance on the software is much higher than TSM, it costs more than TSM, it uses at least twice as much hardware as TSM, has horrible support, and just plain does not scale. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Wiley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Veritas/Legato/ArcServ Gerald, I use to work with Veritas, and I may soon be back in that boat..(not by chioice) You are correct , we wasted a lot of tape.. And the quick recovery time was dependant on the Offsite vendor returning our media.. We set up our clients in different classes(TSM's version of stgpools schedules) they would dump their data to the diskpool and copy would take place soon after. At the time we didn't have a way to collocate so the data could span multiple tapes.. (Don't know what that is like today) If client a needed a restore, client x,y and z's data would have to return in order for us to get all the required data restored for client a .. But this was a couple years ago~ Gabriel C. Wiley ADSM/TSM Administrator AIX Support Phone 1-614-308-6709 Pager 1-877-489-2867 Fax 1-614-308-6637 Cell 1-740-972-6441 Siempre Hay Esperanza Gerald Wichmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Veritas/Legato/ArcServ Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 04/17/2002 01:19 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Not specifically TSM question but more of a question
Re: Veritas/Legato/ArcServ
Hi Also, at least earlier, Legato used a sequential file to handle information about clients, tapes, files and so on... TSM uses a DB/2 database, which is much more efficent than using a sequential file. Also, when having larger environments, the sequential file becomes a bottleneck, which can reduce performance in a noticable way. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervägen 6B 183 62 HÄGERNÄS Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Remco Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-04-18 11:45 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Veritas/Legato/ArcServ Not specifically TSM question but more of a question to better understand how to discuss pro's/cons to other competing products. Since my background is all TSM, I'm curious on how the other competitors handle media. Is my assumption correct that they waste a lot of tape space? As far as I understand it, all these products do traditional full/incremental type backups where each full and incremental uses a tape. Thus Server 1 would suck up 7 tapes in a week (1 full, 6 incrementals). Is this true? Or can these products actually put 2 full's on a single tape? Or multiple incrementals on a single tape? Hi, I have limitted experience with Legato, but it too, like TSM, puts all backups of one node, both full and incremental, in one storagepool, even does full and incremantal on the same tape if possible... -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Remco Post SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdamhttp://www.sara.nl High Performance Computing Tel. +31 20 592 8008Fax. +31 20 668 3167 I really didn't foresee the Internet. But then, neither did the computer industry. Not that that tells us very much of course - the computer industry didn't even foresee that the century was going to end. -- Douglas Adams
Re: Daily Backup Report: More Issues
Hi Orin,
Just to add to what Paul and Andy has already said:
TDP for Exchange - definately a problem - even a q files nodexyz f=d reports
a successfull backup - although the Rc425 in the exchange log says that
the backup of storage group xyz failed the TDP for exchange does NOT
comunicate
this fact to the TSM server - what we do is run SQL queries against the
TSM actvity log to see the success or failure of the backup.
Andy's statement that the q event is good for scheduled operations is not
true - I have an NT server where I have an ADMIN command to backup the
primary tape pool to a secondary tape pool with a wait=yes added.
When the server starts the command it ends without mounting the tapes,
because there is no free tapes available to make the copy.
In the TSM activity log you can see the process failed - but the q event
says it was fine.
According to me this should report a FAILED EVENT - but is says the event
was
OK return code 0.
Might be a bug - but I don't make use of the events table for reporting
AT ALL.
Cheers
Christo
Mark is absolutely correct. This is an issue we have as well. To solve the
problem we are running post processing of the output looking for a bogus
situation and setting return codes. We use an external scheduler, so we can
do this. With the TSM Scheduler you are just screwed if you are not
satisfied that a successful session does not necessarily equal a successful
backup.
The worst problem we have is the TDP for Exchange can get a 425 return code
because Norton Anti-virus has the Exchange store tied up and you still get a
successful backup. This takes a bounce of the Exchange Server. The issue
is you can go weeks without realizing you have not gotten an Information
Store backup.
Typically, I use SQL to looke for the message id and failed and that is how
this one is found.
I hate to correct IBM again... My statement was correct
query event will NOT tell you if your backup was successful.
As Andy so carefully stated in his last comment:
you should not have any problems determining success or failure of the
operation.
The operation and the actual successful backup are two different things. In
referring to a TSM operations (i.e. ACTION=INCREMENTAL), not a script, can
show proof of missed files and errors from reports from my activity log that
a success of the operation does not mean that you had a successful backup.
I
We currently have a Critsit open with Tivoli and IBM hardware support and
this is one of the major issues.
Just trying to help, I guarantee that if you rely only on a q event to let
your customers know if you have all their files backed up you will get
burned.
Original Message-
From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 10:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Daily Backup Report
query event will NOT tell you if your backup was successful.
This is true only if the schedule definition launches a script, i.e. DEF SCH
mydomain myschedule ACTION=COMMAND OBJECTS=myscript, and the script
contains commands that run asynchronously; in that case, TSM has no way to
track the actions taken within the script. It can only say, the script was
launched successfully. In short, the success or failure of the command
depends on the return code issued from the script.
For scheduled TSM operations (i.e. ACTION=INCREMENTAL), you should not have
any problems determining success or failure of the operation. For
ACTION=COMMAND operations where the command
Regards,
Andy
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.
Mark Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:Re: Daily Backup Report
We also used query event * * begindate=today-1 enddate=today ex=yes until
I learned that this does not report on clients that were or were not backed
up successfully, this ONLY reports on if the script or schedule was
successful. To quote straight from the h q event page Use this command to
check whether schedules were processed successfully.
I will not go into a rant about this, just learn from my mistake, query
event will NOT tell you if your backup was successful.
-Original Message-
From: Williams, Tim P {PBSG} [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 9:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Daily Backup Report
we generally run a q event command ex=yes
you can use begindate begintime parms, etc
help q event
fYI
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From: Orin Rehorst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 16,
Re: SAN Problem - TDP for SAP on Windows 2000
Hi Gerrit/Paul, Here is an extract from the readme.txt that comes with the QLOGIC drivers for NT: 2. Select HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and follow the tree structure down to the QLogic driver as follows: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE SYSTEM CurrentControlSet Services Ql2200 Parameters Device 3. Double click on MaximumSGList:REG_DWORD:0x21 4. Enter a value from 16 to 255 (0x10 hex to 0xFF). A value of 255 (0xFF) enables the maximum 1 MByte transfer size. Setting a value higher than 255 results with the default of 64K transfers. The default value is 33 (0x21). Cheers Christo - Been here, seen this, fixed this. Actually we found the solution on the Knowledge base but the answer in the knowledge base is wrong. Sorry, I do not remember the KB solution number, but this is what you have to do. The default in the Device\Parameters section for the Qlogic card defaults to 0x21. The KB says to change it to at least 131 from 21. What it meant to say is 131 decimal. We set it to 255 or 0xFF and now the SAN agent works fine. The issue is the tape header blocks are read/written as one on the SAN agent apparently differently than the server. The result is what you see. The keyword to set is MaximumSGList. Sorry I cannot remember the HKEY for this. -Original Message- From: Joe Cascanette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SAN Problem - TDP for SAP on Windows 2000 Are you using Removable Storage on the Windows2000 server attached to the SAN connected tape unit?, or are you using the drivers supplied by Tivoli (device drivers)?. My server is NT based (not sure about the AIX based) and I am using the Tivoli drivers to connect to my tape storage. I noticed since I needed to disable the Removable Storage service on my Windows 2000 server attached to the SAN to get this to work correctly. Some how the 2 drivers were fighting for control, by disabling this service Tivoli's device drivers had no problem. Joe -Original Message- From: Gerrit van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SAN Problem - TDP for SAP on Windows 2000 Hi all TSM'ers The setup: TSM 4.2.1.0 Server on AIX 4.3. TSM 4.2.1.26 Client on Windows 2000 TSM Storageagent 4.2.0.1 on Windows 2000 TDP for SAP on Windows 2000 The Win2000 is connected to the SAN via a Qlogic card. When we start a SAP backup, the tape gets mounted in the correct tape drive, however the following error occurs: (output from dsmsta) ANR0400I Session 6 started for node BSASAP31 (TDP R3 WINNT) (Named Pipe). ANR8337I LTO volume 541ABW mounted in drive DRIVE1 (\\.\Tape2). ANR8938E The adapter for tape drive DRIVE1 (\\.\Tape2) cannot handle the block size needed to use the volume. ANR8468I LTO volume 541ABW dismounted from drive DRIVE1 (\\.\Tape2) in library LIB3584. ANR1401W Mount request denied for volume 541ABW - mount failed. Any ideas as to why it complains about the block size and how to fix it? Thanks and regards ~~ Gerrit van Zyl Tel: +27 11 800 7400 Fax: +27 11 802 3814 Cell: +27 82 570 4266 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.faritec.co.za ~~ __ The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Absa is neither liable for the proper, complete transmission of the information contained in this communication, any delay in its receipt or that the mail is virus-free.
Re: tsm database problem
Hello Your database needs to be reorganized, Your maximum reduction is only 60 Mb. Do a unloaddb and loaddb and after that delete the volumes Regards Niklas -Original Message- From: Burak Demircan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: den 18 april 2002 13:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: tsm database problem Hi, One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full as follows. --- tsm: ADSM01.MBTq db Available Assigned Maximum Maximum Page Total Used Pct Max. Space Capacity Extension Reduction Size Usable Pages Util Pct (MB) (MB) (MB) (MB) (bytes) Pages Util - - - --- - - - - 1 396 1 396 0 60 4 096 357 376 82 509 23.1 23.4 I have 7 volumes that build up the database which are consists of 200MB;100MB and xxxMB volumes. Today I tried to delete some of my volumes but I could not and it says there is not enough space. But I have ~900 MB free space on my database and it can not move the volume to other volumes. Do I miss something here? Regards, Burak
Re: tsm database problem
Burak, You have assigned all the database space available to the TSM Server. You have to reduce the database size at least up to the size of the volume you want to delete. When you use Delete dbvolume volume_name command the data already existing in that volume then automatically get moved to the other volume. The bottom line is that you have to reduce equivalent size of the assigned database space before deleting the volume. Reduce the Database volume using this command, REDUCE DB SIZE_IN_MEGABYTE Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHRTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COMcc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 05:21 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi, One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full as follows. --- tsm: ADSM01.MBTq db Available Assigned Maximum Maximum Page Total Used Pct Max. Space Capacity Extension Reduction Size Usable Pages Util Pct (MB) (MB) (MB) (MB) (bytes) Pages Util - - - --- - - - - 1 396 1 396 0 60 4 096 357 376 82 509 23.1 23.4 I have 7 volumes that build up the database which are consists of 200MB;100MB and xxxMB volumes. Today I tried to delete some of my volumes but I could not and it says there is not enough space. But I have ~900 MB free space on my database and it can not move the volume to other volumes. Do I miss something here? Regards, Burak
Re: Veritas/Legato/ArcServ
Legato will pack fulls and incrementals into the same tapes, or, separate tapes, depending upon how you set up storage pools. I'd say the waste of tape comes from having to perform periodic full/differential backups, depending upon your schedule. If you mix multiple retention periods on the same tape, or, similar retension periods that are spread across a long time (several months), you can get one little old file keeping a tape from being recycled. This used to really bug me - one little old file holding up a 25gb tape from being reusable. There is no way to move a backup from one tape to another to free up the tape. On the other hand, you don't need a huge disk pool, a batch window to run migration/reclamation/expiration, enough library to hold all your local tapes online, will allow you to split storage pools across multiple libraries, a much lighter weight catalog than tsm, and, a automated/automatic catalog backup system that requires nothing more than the normal client level backup of the Legato server. I can't believe I just did that - I actually said something kind of good about Legato. I was sooo happy to get rid of Legato. It was buggy sftw and had the absolute worse tech support I've ever delt with. rick On 17 Apr 2002 at 10:19, Gerald Wichmann wrote: Not specifically TSM question but more of a question to better understand how to discuss pro's/cons to other competing products. Since my background is all TSM, I'm curious on how the other competitors handle media. Is my assumption correct that they waste a lot of tape space? As far as I understand it, all these products do traditional full/incremental type backups where each full and incremental uses a tape. Thus Server 1 would suck up 7 tapes in a week (1 full, 6 incrementals). Is this true? Or can these products actually put 2 full's on a single tape? Or multiple incrementals on a single tape?
tsm database problem
Hi, One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full as follows. --- tsm: ADSM01.MBTq db Available Assigned Maximum Maximum Page Total Used Pct Max. Space Capacity Extension Reduction Size Usable Pages Util Pct (MB) (MB) (MB) (MB) (bytes) Pages Util - - - --- - - - - 1 396 1 396 0 60 4 096 357 376 82 509 23.1 23.4 I have 7 volumes that build up the database which are consists of 200MB;100MB and xxxMB volumes. Today I tried to delete some of my volumes but I could not and it says there is not enough space. But I have ~900 MB free space on my database and it can not move the volume to other volumes. Do I miss something here? Regards, Burak
Re: tsm database problem
The way the data is spread out on the volumes, you will probably have to do an unload and a load to reorg the data base prior to being able to delete some of your volumes... Dwight E. Cook Software Application Engineer III Science Applications International Corporation 509 S. Boston Ave. Suit 220 Tulsa, Oklahoma 74103-4606 Office (918) 732-7109 -Original Message- From: Burak Demircan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 6:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: tsm database problem Hi, One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full as follows. --- tsm: ADSM01.MBTq db Available Assigned Maximum Maximum Page Total Used Pct Max. Space Capacity Extension Reduction Size Usable Pages Util Pct (MB) (MB) (MB) (MB) (bytes) Pages Util - - - --- - - - - 1 396 1 396 0 60 4 096 357 376 82 509 23.1 23.4 I have 7 volumes that build up the database which are consists of 200MB;100MB and xxxMB volumes. Today I tried to delete some of my volumes but I could not and it says there is not enough space. But I have ~900 MB free space on my database and it can not move the volume to other volumes. Do I miss something here? Regards, Burak
Re: tsm database problem
Hi Before deleting a DB volume, you have to reduce the size of you're database, to free up volumes. According to you, all volumes are 100/200MB large. However, looking at the printout from your q db f=d, it seems like you have larger volumes, as the maximum reduction is only 60MB, but you have only used 23%. This means that there should be a database volume that is larger than 200MB. TSM can only remove volumes that are not used to hold information. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman -- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervägen 6B 183 62 HÄGERNÄS Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Burak Demircan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-04-18 13:51 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:tsm database problem Hi, One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full as follows. --- tsm: ADSM01.MBTq db Available Assigned Maximum Maximum Page Total Used Pct Max. Space Capacity Extension Reduction Size Usable Pages Util Pct (MB) (MB) (MB) (MB) (bytes) Pages Util - - - --- - - - - 1 396 1 396 0 60 4 096 357 376 82 509 23.1 23.4 I have 7 volumes that build up the database which are consists of 200MB;100MB and xxxMB volumes. Today I tried to delete some of my volumes but I could not and it says there is not enough space. But I have ~900 MB free space on my database and it can not move the volume to other volumes. Do I miss something here? Regards, Burak
Re: tsm database problem
I have 1 x 500mb,2 x 200MB and 2x100MB and 1x 96MB db volumes but I can not reduce even a 96MB dbvol Is it logical? It think the database seems to be used more that it shows me? Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 15:55 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem In your case the assigned db space is equal to te available space, therefore you need to reduce the db before you delete the db volume. For example, if you are going to delete 200MB db volume: reduce db 200 del dbvol full path and volume name Best regards, Kolbeinn Josepsson NYHERJI HF. BORGARTUN 37 IS-105 REYKJAVIK ICELAND Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 11:51 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi, One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full as follows. --- tsm: ADSM01.MBTq db Available Assigned Maximum Maximum Page Total Used Pct Max. Space Capacity Extension Reduction Size Usable Pages Util Pct (MB) (MB) (MB) (MB) (bytes) Pages Util - - - --- - - - - 1 396 1 396 0 60 4 096 357 376 82 509 23.1 23.4 I have 7 volumes that build up the database which are consists of 200MB;100MB and xxxMB volumes. Today I tried to delete some of my volumes but I could not and it says there is not enough space. But I have ~900 MB free space on my database and it can not move the volume to other volumes. Do I miss something here? Regards, Burak
Re: tsm database problem
Burak, In that case, you have to unload the database and then reload it using dsmserv unloaddb and dsmserv loaddb commands. So that your database is reorganized and takes minimum space to distribute itself. I hope, after doing unload and load database you will enough database space to reduce and then delete the database volume as per your wish. Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHRTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COMcc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: Re: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 06:00 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager But I can reduce it only 60 MBs although it is only 23 percent used? Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 15:26 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Burak, You have assigned all the database space available to the TSM Server. You have to reduce the database size at least up to the size of the volume you want to delete. When you use Delete dbvolume volume_name command the data already existing in that volume then automatically get moved to the other volume. The bottom line is that you have to reduce equivalent size of the assigned database space before deleting the volume. Reduce the Database volume using this command, REDUCE DB SIZE_IN_MEGABYTE Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 05:21 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi, One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full as follows. --- tsm: ADSM01.MBTq db Available Assigned Maximum Maximum Page Total Used Pct Max. Space Capacity Extension Reduction Size Usable Pages Util Pct (MB) (MB) (MB) (MB) (bytes) Pages Util - - - --- - - - - 1 396 1 396 0 60 4 096 357 376 82 509 23.1 23.4 I have 7 volumes that build up the database which are consists of 200MB;100MB and xxxMB volumes. Today I tried to delete some of my volumes but I could not and it says there is not enough space. But I have ~900 MB free space on my database and it can not move the volume to other volumes. Do I miss something here? Regards, Burak
Re: tsm database problem
But I can reduce it only 60 MBs although it is only 23 percent used? Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 15:26 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Burak, You have assigned all the database space available to the TSM Server. You have to reduce the database size at least up to the size of the volume you want to delete. When you use Delete dbvolume volume_name command the data already existing in that volume then automatically get moved to the other volume. The bottom line is that you have to reduce equivalent size of the assigned database space before deleting the volume. Reduce the Database volume using this command, REDUCE DB SIZE_IN_MEGABYTE Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 05:21 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi, One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full as follows. --- tsm: ADSM01.MBTq db Available Assigned Maximum Maximum Page Total Used Pct Max. Space Capacity Extension Reduction Size Usable Pages Util Pct (MB) (MB) (MB) (MB) (bytes) Pages Util - - - --- - - - - 1 396 1 396 0 60 4 096 357 376 82 509 23.1 23.4 I have 7 volumes that build up the database which are consists of 200MB;100MB and xxxMB volumes. Today I tried to delete some of my volumes but I could not and it says there is not enough space. But I have ~900 MB free space on my database and it can not move the volume to other volumes. Do I miss something here? Regards, Burak
Re: problem after upgrding ADSM to TSM 4.2
Do not forget the atldd.driver file also, it needs to be up-to-date for the newer TSM versions 4.2+ Bernie M borismilo@YAH To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OO.COM cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: problem after upgrding ADSM to TSM 4.2 ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU 04/18/02 01:25 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The problem was the Atape driver for the library. Once I downloaded and installed the driver it went fine. Bernie. --- Seay, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make sure you are running the latest patch level on AIX and the latest MagStar Drivers. For some reason, there have been problems with old driver and patch levels. -Original Message- From: Bernie M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 2:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: problem after upgrding ADSM to TSM 4.2 Hi all, I have just upgraded my ADSM server to TSM 4.2 on AIX 4.3.3 and am having problems with the definitions of my drives. Ther is nothing using the drives, I can access them using tapeutil but have the following problems in TSMANR2017I Administrator SERVER_CONSOLE issued command: QUERY DRIVE 3575lib1 drive0 f=d Library Name: 3575LIB1 Drive Name: DRIVE0 Device Type: 3570 Device: ON LINE: Unavailable Since 04/17/02 15:10:17 Element: 16 Allocated to: Last Update by (administrator): SERVER_CONSOLE Last Update Date/Time: 04/17/02 14:45:05 Cleaning Frequency (Gigabytes/ASNEEDED/NONE): NONE TSM:WESLEYADSM update DRIVE 3575LIB1 DRIVE0 DEVICE=/dev/rmt0 ANR2017I Administrator SERVER_CONSOLE issued command: UPDATE DRIVE 3575LIB1 DRIVE0 DEVICE=/dev/rmt0 ANR8420E UPDATE DRIVE: An I/O error occurred while accessing drive DRIVE0. TSM:WESLEYADSM Does anyone have suggestions on how to overcome this problem? Thanks B __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: tsm database problem
In your case the assigned db space is equal to te available space, therefore you need to reduce the db before you delete the db volume. For example, if you are going to delete 200MB db volume: reduce db 200 del dbvol full path and volume name Best regards, Kolbeinn Josepsson NYHERJI HF. BORGARTUN 37 IS-105 REYKJAVIK ICELAND Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHRTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COMcc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 11:51 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi, One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full as follows. --- tsm: ADSM01.MBTq db Available Assigned Maximum MaximumPage Total Used Pct Max. Space Capacity Extension ReductionSizeUsable Pages Util Pct (MB) (MB) (MB) (MB) (bytes) Pages Util - - - --- - - - - 1 3961 396 060 4 096 357 37682 509 23.1 23.4 I have 7 volumes that build up the database which are consists of 200MB;100MB and xxxMB volumes. Today I tried to delete some of my volumes but I could not and it says there is not enough space. But I have ~900 MB free space on my database and it can not move the volume to other volumes. Do I miss something here? Regards, Burak
Re: tsm database problem
Hi You don't have to use a manual library, a 3583 library will work. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervägen 6B 183 62 HÄGERNÄS Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Burak Demircan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-04-18 15:19 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: tsm database problem Hi, The TSM documentation says that I can do unloaddb with only a manual library. How can i do it with a 3583 LTO library? Is it possible to use my external 8mm tape drive? Thank you very much to all Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 16:07 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Burak, In that case, you have to unload the database and then reload it using dsmserv unloaddb and dsmserv loaddb commands. So that your database is reorganized and takes minimum space to distribute itself. I hope, after doing unload and load database you will enough database space to reduce and then delete the database volume as per your wish. Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: Re: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 06:00 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager But I can reduce it only 60 MBs although it is only 23 percent used? Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 15:26 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Burak, You have assigned all the database space available to the TSM Server. You have to reduce the database size at least up to the size of the volume you want to delete. When you use Delete dbvolume volume_name command the data already existing in that volume then automatically get moved to the other volume. The bottom line is that you have to reduce equivalent size of the assigned database space before deleting the volume. Reduce the Database volume using this command, REDUCE DB SIZE_IN_MEGABYTE Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 05:21 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi, One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full as follows. --- tsm: ADSM01.MBTq db Available Assigned Maximum Maximum Page Total Used Pct Max. Space Capacity Extension Reduction Size Usable Pages Util Pct (MB) (MB) (MB) (MB) (bytes) Pages Util - - - --- - - - - 1 396 1 396 0 60 4 096 357 376 82 509 23.1 23.4
tsm 4.2.2.0 help menu
Hi, A few minutes ago I noticed the buggy help system. When I enter something like help q vol It prints the help like garbage. Have you noticed it also? Regards, Burak
Re: tsm database problem
Hi, The TSM documentation says that I can do unloaddb with only a manual library. How can i do it with a 3583 LTO library? Is it possible to use my external 8mm tape drive? Thank you very much to all Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 16:07 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Burak, In that case, you have to unload the database and then reload it using dsmserv unloaddb and dsmserv loaddb commands. So that your database is reorganized and takes minimum space to distribute itself. I hope, after doing unload and load database you will enough database space to reduce and then delete the database volume as per your wish. Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: Re: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 06:00 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager But I can reduce it only 60 MBs although it is only 23 percent used? Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 15:26 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Burak, You have assigned all the database space available to the TSM Server. You have to reduce the database size at least up to the size of the volume you want to delete. When you use Delete dbvolume volume_name command the data already existing in that volume then automatically get moved to the other volume. The bottom line is that you have to reduce equivalent size of the assigned database space before deleting the volume. Reduce the Database volume using this command, REDUCE DB SIZE_IN_MEGABYTE Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 05:21 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi, One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full as follows. --- tsm: ADSM01.MBTq db Available Assigned Maximum Maximum Page Total Used Pct Max. Space Capacity Extension Reduction Size Usable Pages Util Pct (MB) (MB) (MB) (MB) (bytes) Pages Util - - - --- - - - - 1 396 1 396 0 60 4 096 357 376 82 509 23.1 23.4 I have 7 volumes that build up the database which are consists of 200MB;100MB and xxxMB volumes. Today I tried to delete some of my volumes but I could not and it says there is not enough space. But I have ~900 MB free space on my database and it can not move the volume to other volumes. Do I miss something here? Regards, Burak
Re: tsm database problem (unload)
Do you have some spare disk space ? ? ? You may set up a device class of a flat file and use that to unload and load from. I use extra space anywhere I can find it for such things... on one server I use extra space in the log file system DEFINE DEVCLASS DISKFILE DEVTYPE=FILE MAXCAPACITY=1048576K MOUNTLIMIT=1 DIRECTORY=/usr/adsm/LG1 Dwight E. Cook Software Application Engineer III Science Applications International Corporation 509 S. Boston Ave. Suit 220 Tulsa, Oklahoma 74103-4606 Office (918) 732-7109 -Original Message- From: Burak Demircan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: tsm database problem Hi, The TSM documentation says that I can do unloaddb with only a manual library. How can i do it with a 3583 LTO library? Is it possible to use my external 8mm tape drive? Thank you very much to all Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 16:07 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Burak, In that case, you have to unload the database and then reload it using dsmserv unloaddb and dsmserv loaddb commands. So that your database is reorganized and takes minimum space to distribute itself. I hope, after doing unload and load database you will enough database space to reduce and then delete the database volume as per your wish. Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: Re: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 06:00 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager But I can reduce it only 60 MBs although it is only 23 percent used? Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 15:26 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Burak, You have assigned all the database space available to the TSM Server. You have to reduce the database size at least up to the size of the volume you want to delete. When you use Delete dbvolume volume_name command the data already existing in that volume then automatically get moved to the other volume. The bottom line is that you have to reduce equivalent size of the assigned database space before deleting the volume. Reduce the Database volume using this command, REDUCE DB SIZE_IN_MEGABYTE Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 05:21 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi, One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full as follows. --- tsm: ADSM01.MBTq db Available Assigned Maximum Maximum Page Total Used Pct Max. Space Capacity Extension Reduction Size Usable Pages Util Pct (MB) (MB) (MB) (MB) (bytes) Pages Util -
Re: tsm database problem
Burak You can use your 3583 by redefining it as a manual library. Edit the devconfig file and redefine the library as manual - you will also need to delete all the drive definitions except for one. Then use tapeutil to move the db tapes between the IO slots and the drive. eg: DEFINE LIBRARY LIB_NAME LIBTYPE=MANUAL DEFINE DRIVE LIB_NAME DRIVE_NAME DEVICE=/dev/rmt0 ONLINE=Yes HTH Simon -Original Message- From: Burak Demircan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 April 2002 14:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: tsm database problem This email and any files transmitted have been checked by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service for the presence of computer viruses. Please exercise caution when receiving any attachment(s) from unknown sources. If in any doubt, do not open any attachment and delete the message immediately. Thank you for your co-operation. _ Hi, The TSM documentation says that I can do unloaddb with only a manual library. How can i do it with a 3583 LTO library? Is it possible to use my external 8mm tape drive? Thank you very much to all Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 16:07 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Burak, In that case, you have to unload the database and then reload it using dsmserv unloaddb and dsmserv loaddb commands. So that your database is reorganized and takes minimum space to distribute itself. I hope, after doing unload and load database you will enough database space to reduce and then delete the database volume as per your wish. Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: Re: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 06:00 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager But I can reduce it only 60 MBs although it is only 23 percent used? Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 15:26 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Burak, You have assigned all the database space available to the TSM Server. You have to reduce the database size at least up to the size of the volume you want to delete. When you use Delete dbvolume volume_name command the data already existing in that volume then automatically get moved to the other volume. The bottom line is that you have to reduce equivalent size of the assigned database space before deleting the volume. Reduce the Database volume using this command, REDUCE DB SIZE_IN_MEGABYTE Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 05:21 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi, One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full as follows.
Re: IP over FC on AIX
From what I recall, the FC6228 cards do NOT support IP over FC. The Emulex LP8000 cards/drivers, however, indicate that they do support this, but not concurrently with the FC/SCSI...it's one or the other, and if you load both drivers, whichever one gets bound to the card first wins. I have not tried the LP8000's in an AIX machine, and I believe there was some unhappiness posted to this list from some people who were trying to get it to work. -Lloyd On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 16:02:02 -0700 Alex Paschal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel, I hate to disagree, but at the URL included below, there are some drivers that support IP over the FC Arbitrated Loop or Fabric for the LP HBAs. I was days away from trying it some time ago, but our networking group finally installed Ethernet segments in addition to the main Token Ring segments (!), so I didn't have a real need to move that IP traffic onto the SAN. Steve, if you try it, please let us know how they work. Also, remember to massage your routing table! Alex Paschal Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail Quote from http://www.emulex.com/ts/fc/docs/frame8k.htm: SCSI/IP v4.1.0.16 Both versions provide both SCSI and IP functionality over Fibre Channel arbitrated loop and fabric topology. OS version: AIX 4.2x and 4.3x with 64-bit extensions Utility: Diagnostic Utility (lputil) version 1.2a16 Protocol: SCSI and IP Topology: Fibre Channel arbitrated loop, point-to-point and fabric Support: LP7000E, LP8000, LP9000 or LP9002L -Original Message- From: Daniel Sparrman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 12:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IP over FC on AIX Hi The Emulex adapter that you are using supports both ordinary Ethernet FC connetion over IP, and FCP connections over a SAN. However, you cannot use the IP protocol to talk directly over the SAN, as the SAN only talks SCSI commands. However, you can use the IBM drivers supplied, a Tivoli Storage Agent, and SAN attached storage (tape) devices to backup your data over the SAN. Remeber that only large files can fully utilize the SAN. Small files will cause a lot of meta data to be sent over the ordinary LAN, which makes it unnecessary to send data over the SAN at all. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervägen 6B 183 62 HÄGERNÄS Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-04-16 02:31 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:IP over FC on AIX Hi all, I'm in the process of adding SAN capability to my RS6000 Wide Silver node TSM server (AIX 433-09, TSM 4.2.1.8) As part of this I'd like to switch some TSM backups from the general network to IP over the san. This will take the router out of the equation and get our backups back into their window. Problem is that I can't find any IP drivers for the FC adapter ( 2Gb adapter for 64 bit PCI bus type 4-W). My research indicates that I need to go away from the IBM supplied drivers and install Emulex ones. Has anyone got this working, and if so how? Steve Harris AIX and TSM Admin Quuensland Health, Brisbane Australia ** This e-mail, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this e-mail is prohibited. It may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this e-mail in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone or by return e-mail. You should also delete this e-mail message and destroy any hard copies produced. ** -- - Lloyd Dieter- Senior Technology Consultant Synergy, Inc. http://www.synergyinc.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Main:716-389-1260fax:716-389-1267 -
Re: tsm database problem
Hi, I achieved to define my external 8mm tape drive as a drive and manual library. Now the point is: How risky is unloading the db and loading again? Does anybody have experience about troubles I may have? Best Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 16:26 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Hi You don't have to use a manual library, a 3583 library will work. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervägen 6B 183 62 HÄGERNÄS Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Burak Demircan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-04-18 15:19 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Hi, The TSM documentation says that I can do unloaddb with only a manual library. How can i do it with a 3583 LTO library? Is it possible to use my external 8mm tape drive? Thank you very much to all Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 16:07 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Burak, In that case, you have to unload the database and then reload it using dsmserv unloaddb and dsmserv loaddb commands. So that your database is reorganized and takes minimum space to distribute itself. I hope, after doing unload and load database you will enough database space to reduce and then delete the database volume as per your wish. Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: Re: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 06:00 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager But I can reduce it only 60 MBs although it is only 23 percent used? Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 15:26 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Burak, You have assigned all the database space available to the TSM Server. You have to reduce the database size at least up to the size of the volume you want to delete. When you use Delete dbvolume volume_name command the data already existing in that volume then automatically get moved to the other volume. The bottom line is that you have to reduce equivalent size of the assigned database space before deleting the volume. Reduce the Database volume using this command, REDUCE DB SIZE_IN_MEGABYTE Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 05:21 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi, One of my TSM servers is TSM 4.2.2.0 on AIX 4.3.3 I have a 1.4GB database which is % 24 full
TDP Oracle on AIX 5.1
Luis, What version of AIX 5 are you after, AIX 5 32bit? Tivoli has GAed TDP for Oracle 2.2.1 (aka 5.1.0) that supports AIX 5 32bit and has been available on the ftp site for some weeks now. If you do not qualify for FTP TDP for Oracle please see your rep. for the GAed version. AIX 5 64bit support will come at a later date, I just noticed that Oracle has released its developers release for Oracle 9i on AIX 5L (64bit). Hope this helps. -- Date:Wed, 17 Apr 2002 16:53:16 -0400 From:Luis Tapia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TDP Oracle on AIX 5.1 Hi list, I'want to know if some of you have some experiences installing TDP for Oracle for AIX in an AIX 5.1 box, as you know it is not supported but, is there a way? i mean, do i have to wait until tivoli releases 5.1 support? (someday) please help, i have a big warehouse oracle and i have to backup it to a robot in a TSM environment. thanks LT Regards, Neil Rasmussen Software Development TDP for Oracle
Re: IP over FC on AIX
Hi Sending IP traffic over your SAN will at least make your SAN switches confused, as I believe that they do not talk IP, only SCSI commands. I have installed two Emulex LP8000 adapters in an IBM P-Series 640. You cannot use the IBM drivers for the Emulex card, as there are no drivers for the LP8000, only for LP7000 and LP9000. Bull has drivers, but they won't work with IBM AIX, as Bull is at level 4.3.3.1 and I think IBM is still at 4.3.3.09. When installed, the default value was FC Networking. When starting up the machine, we didn't get a link on the LP8000. However, after we had changed the setting to use FC-SCSI, the adapter worked correctly. Our problem was that the LP8000 couldn't talk to an 3584, as the tape driver talks FCP native, and the LP8000 talks SCSI down to the HBA. When we tried to install the IBM driver instead, the adapter driver couldn't load. After talking to both Emulex and IBM, we found out that IBM has changed the memory addresses for the adapter, and therefore, the IBM driver will not work with a native LP8000 adapter and vice versa. Hope you get IP traffice to work through your SAN switches. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervägen 6B 183 62 HÄGERNÄS Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Lloyd Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-04-18 16:12 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: IP over FC on AIX From what I recall, the FC6228 cards do NOT support IP over FC. The Emulex LP8000 cards/drivers, however, indicate that they do support this, but not concurrently with the FC/SCSI...it's one or the other, and if you load both drivers, whichever one gets bound to the card first wins. I have not tried the LP8000's in an AIX machine, and I believe there was some unhappiness posted to this list from some people who were trying to get it to work. -Lloyd On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 16:02:02 -0700 Alex Paschal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel, I hate to disagree, but at the URL included below, there are some drivers that support IP over the FC Arbitrated Loop or Fabric for the LP HBAs. I was days away from trying it some time ago, but our networking group finally installed Ethernet segments in addition to the main Token Ring segments (!), so I didn't have a real need to move that IP traffic onto the SAN. Steve, if you try it, please let us know how they work. Also, remember to massage your routing table! Alex Paschal Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail Quote from http://www.emulex.com/ts/fc/docs/frame8k.htm: SCSI/IP v4.1.0.16 Both versions provide both SCSI and IP functionality over Fibre Channel arbitrated loop and fabric topology. OS version: AIX 4.2x and 4.3x with 64-bit extensions Utility: Diagnostic Utility (lputil) version 1.2a16 Protocol: SCSI and IP Topology: Fibre Channel arbitrated loop, point-to-point and fabric Support: LP7000E, LP8000, LP9000 or LP9002L -Original Message- From: Daniel Sparrman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 12:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IP over FC on AIX Hi The Emulex adapter that you are using supports both ordinary Ethernet FC connetion over IP, and FCP connections over a SAN. However, you cannot use the IP protocol to talk directly over the SAN, as the SAN only talks SCSI commands. However, you can use the IBM drivers supplied, a Tivoli Storage Agent, and SAN attached storage (tape) devices to backup your data over the SAN. Remeber that only large files can fully utilize the SAN. Small files will cause a lot of meta data to be sent over the ordinary LAN, which makes it unnecessary to send data over the SAN at all. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervägen 6B 183 62 HÄGERNÄS Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-04-16 02:31 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:IP over FC on AIX Hi all, I'm in the process of adding SAN capability to my RS6000 Wide Silver node TSM server (AIX 433-09, TSM 4.2.1.8) As part of this I'd like to switch some TSM backups from the general network to IP over the san. This will take the router out of the equation and get our backups back into their window. Problem is that I can't find any IP drivers for the FC adapter ( 2Gb adapter for 64 bit PCI bus type 4-W). My research indicates that I need to go away from the IBM supplied drivers and install Emulex ones. Has anyone got this
online image backup
Hi all, Just experimenting with this new 5.1 feature, using the Logical Volume Snapshot Agent (LVSA). First, when configuring the LVSA Configuration Wizard, I am not presented with the appropriate panels to configure this feature. The Wizard goes from the Install choice panel, directly to Finish. Nothing seems to be installed, or change, however, I do get the success pop-up window (either LVSA is now installed, or LVSA is already installed, if I try again). Then at the GUI, I would expect to see the option to do LVSA at the backup window - as stated in the documentation: To perform an online image backup, select Image Snapshot Backup from the drop-down list. That option is not present in the dropdown list. So I go to the command line, and try backup image c: to which I am told, Session rejected: Downlevel server code version TSM Server 4.2.2 AIX 4.3.3 Win2K TSM 5.1 client API installed. Any ideas about what I am doing wrong. Are some things (all things?) not supported with 5.1 clients and 4.2 server? Thank you. John
Enlogix 36689
04/18/02 09:45:38 ANR0984I Process 334 for CLEANUP ARCHDIR SHOWSTATS started in the BACKGROUND at 09:45:38. 04/18/02 09:45:38 ANR0838I CLEANUP ARCHDIR SHOWSTATS: Archive directory cleanup job 1 started as background process 334. 04/18/02 09:45:39 ANR0898I (Job 1): Node 1 P15 has (95) filespaces with (1176) directories and (9833) files. The directories include (153) unique, (0) not referenced and (1023) duplicates. The node is converted (True). 04/18/02 09:45:39 ANR0843I CLEANUP ARCHDIR SHOWSTATS: Archive directory cleanup job 1 completed successfully. 1 nodes were processed. 04/18/02 09:45:40 ANR0985I Process 334 for CLEANUP ARCHDIR SHOWSTATS running in the BACKGROUND completed with completion state SUCCESS at 09:45:39. Jim Taylor Senior Associate, Technical Services Enlogix * E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Office: (416) 496-5266 * Cell: (416)458-6802 * Fax: (416) 496-5245
Re: Residency Announcement: TI-A212 Disaster Recovery Strategies with Tivoli Storage Management
This will be a very interesting project,producing a redbook covering a wide spectrum of DR-related activities. I encourage any interested parties to apply. More details of the residency are at http://w3.itso.ibm.com/itsoapps/residents.nsf/c0d5c6f1588c774985256ad1005da419/a8deda655431d1ec85256b9e000de509?OpenDocument Regards, Charlotte Project Leader, Tape and Storage Management solutions, ITSO San Jose email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: (408) 927-3641 fax: (408) 927-3616 t/l: 8-457-3641 http://ibm.com/redbooks Residency Announcement: TI-A212 Disaster Recovery Strategies with Tivoli Storage Management Benefits to Resident: The resident will test and document backup and bare metal recovery techniques on various OS platforms and applications using Tivoli Storage Management products (including DRM for the server). They will also put system-specific DR into a wider perspective - as part of an enterprise's overall business continuance plan. This San Jose residency begins 24 Jun 2002, ends 02 Aug 2002 (6 weeks), and requires 3 residents. Nominations should be submitted online on the Web by 22 May 2002. The selection date is 24 May 2002. The residency leader is Charlotte Brooks whose email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: ITSO pays authorized travel and living expenses for all residents, but does not compensate for the time or services of its residents. For IBMers, ITSO residency travel is pre-approved. Description: The redbook will describe how to protect computer systems from disaster on various platforms (including Windows 2000, Linux, Solaris and AIX, and certain key applications) using products from the Tivoli Storage Management set. It will document appropriate backup strategies and show how to test and perform a system (bare metal) recovery on each of the considered operating systems. Disaster recovery in the business context will also be discussed - ie the role of Tivoli Storage Manager in the enterprise's overall business continuance strategy. Objectives: The redbook will help customers plan for disaster recovery by showing how to protect and recover their critical business systems from a complete failure. To submit a nomination, you must use the online web nomination form: Customers and business partners can go directly to this announcement and its online nomination form using this link: http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Residents.nsf/GetResidency?OpenAgentID=TI-A212 IBMers with access to the IBM Intranet can go directly to this announcement and its online nomination form using this link: http://w3.itso.ibm.com/itsoapps/Residents.nsf/GetResidency?OpenAgentID=TI-A212 All residency information is available by clicking Residencies on the IBM Redbooks Internet site at http://ibm.com/redbooks. Employees of IBM will prefer using the IBM Intranet site http://w3.itso.ibm.com. The websites fully describe the residency process and offer online nomination forms.
V3.1 ADSM Database Read error
Hi *SMers Having recently taken over an ADSM 3.1 implementation, I come across the following error when backing up the database. This is the first error I've seen in the DB since being here. I have one mirrored copy. Is this something I should be overly concerned with - for instance if the other copy goes bad. What steps without restoring the DB (if any) do I need to take in order to correct this or do I just wait for the page to be expired to clear it? 04/18/2002 08:03:15 ANR0207E Page address mismatch detected on database volume F:\ADSM_SERVER\DB\DB5.DSM, logical page 821282 (physical page 3378466); actual: -1. 04/18/2002 08:03:15 ANR0247I Database page 821280 successfully read from an alternate copy on volume E:\ADSM_SERVER\DB\DB5COPY.DSM. Any help is always appreciated. Stu
Re: online image backup
Logical Volume Snapshot Agent requires TSM 5.1.0 server Tested able to take snap shot of partitions in Fiber Channel Harddisk or current boot up partitions in local system. Limitation of LVSA : TSM not able to backup current system boot up partition. TSM not able to backup partition where TSM client installed To best use of LVSA, install TSM client in system partition EX: C: TSM then able to take snap shot of all others non-boot up partitions including FC harddisk partitions The following not tested officially and not supported by TSM , Use as your own risk!!! LVSA should able to take snap shot of system partition if that system partition is not currently booting up the system. 1. A Duel boot system should able to backup the system partition that is not currently booting up from. WARNING: The following SETUP method may destroy all partitons in secondary harddisk in Windows XP environemnt, please do not try!! 2. Attach 2 hard disks with Windows XP installed together, boot up the system from one HD , and TRY TO take snap shot of the other, As I mention , do as your own risk. The problem here due to after booting up , Windows XP detect a new drive , but all partition in new drive is empty?? Tivoli Storage Management Function Verification Test , FVT Automation Project Lead Office:408-256-3312 Home:650-757-1661 Cell:415-218-7880 AIM:smartbluewong Dept Y0LA /Bldg 050-3 / Office 3A64 IBM SSG Division 46 John Bremer [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 04/18/2002 07:31:53 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:online image backup Hi all, Just experimenting with this new 5.1 feature, using the Logical Volume Snapshot Agent (LVSA). First, when configuring the LVSA Configuration Wizard, I am not presented with the appropriate panels to configure this feature. The Wizard goes from the Install choice panel, directly to Finish. Nothing seems to be installed, or change, however, I do get the success pop-up window (either LVSA is now installed, or LVSA is already installed, if I try again). Then at the GUI, I would expect to see the option to do LVSA at the backup window - as stated in the documentation: To perform an online image backup, select Image Snapshot Backup from the drop-down list. That option is not present in the dropdown list. So I go to the command line, and try backup image c: to which I am told, Session rejected: Downlevel server code version TSM Server 4.2.2 AIX 4.3.3 Win2K TSM 5.1 client API installed. Any ideas about what I am doing wrong. Are some things (all things?) not supported with 5.1 clients and 4.2 server? Thank you. John
TSM on SUN
Hi guys A big company here in Iceland is thinking about installing TSM on SUN, they will be the first one to have TSM on SUN here. My question is, Is there anything I should know about (bugs, problems) anything sun related that is different from the other systems. Or should I recommend just using AIX.? Kvedja/Regards Petur Eythorsson Taeknimadur/Technician IBM Certified Specialist - AIX Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional Microsoft Certified System Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nyherji Hf Simi TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartun 37105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is
Sorry: Re: New Tivoli licensing - what processor mean (RESOLVED)
Ooops, I've pressed the send button too fast. -- Old Value-Based Pricing (VBP) scheme was distinguishing only the *servers* but not clients. I was not correct. Both are counting both side processors. VBP scheme used three tiers, actually ranges based on number of processors. EVBP scheme counts each processor. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant
Re: online image backup
This feature is not available without the 5.1 server, which is why you don't see it available from the GUI. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. John Bremer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 07:31 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:online image backup Hi all, Just experimenting with this new 5.1 feature, using the Logical Volume Snapshot Agent (LVSA). First, when configuring the LVSA Configuration Wizard, I am not presented with the appropriate panels to configure this feature. The Wizard goes from the Install choice panel, directly to Finish. Nothing seems to be installed, or change, however, I do get the success pop-up window (either LVSA is now installed, or LVSA is already installed, if I try again). Then at the GUI, I would expect to see the option to do LVSA at the backup window - as stated in the documentation: To perform an online image backup, select Image Snapshot Backup from the drop-down list. That option is not present in the dropdown list. So I go to the command line, and try backup image c: to which I am told, Session rejected: Downlevel server code version TSM Server 4.2.2 AIX 4.3.3 Win2K TSM 5.1 client API installed. Any ideas about what I am doing wrong. Are some things (all things?) not supported with 5.1 clients and 4.2 server? Thank you. John
Re: Residency Announcement: TI-A212 Disaster Recovery Strategies with Tivoli Storage Management
(See attached file: Disaster Recovery Strategies with Tivoli Storage Management.htm) Zlatko Krastev [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 04/18/2002 10:29:38 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Residency Announcement: TI-A212 Disaster Recovery Strategies with Tivoli Storage Management Dear Mrs. Brooks, can you proof the URL sent is accesible from outside network 9.x.x.x (IBM Intranet)? AFAIK all w3.*.ibm.com are internal and we being outside IBM are not even able to resolve those name (for security reasons). Residencies do have external addresses and I was able to access them. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Residency Announcement: TI-A212 Disaster Recovery Strategieswith Tivoli Storage Management This will be a very interesting project,producing a redbook covering a wide spectrum of DR-related activities. I encourage any interested parties to apply. More details of the residency are at http://w3.itso.ibm.com/itsoapps/residents.nsf/c0d5c6f1588c774985256ad1005da419/a8deda655431d1ec85256b9e000de509?OpenDocument Regards, Charlotte Project Leader, Tape and Storage Management solutions, ITSO San Jose email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: (408) 927-3641 fax: (408) 927-3616 t/l: 8-457-3641 http://ibm.com/redbooks Residency Announcement: TI-A212 Disaster Recovery Strategies with Tivoli Storage Management Benefits to Resident: The resident will test and document backup and bare metal recovery techniques on various OS platforms and applications using Tivoli Storage Management products (including DRM for the server). They will also put system-specific DR into a wider perspective - as part of an enterprise's overall business continuance plan. This San Jose residency begins 24 Jun 2002, ends 02 Aug 2002 (6 weeks), and requires 3 residents. Nominations should be submitted online on the Web by 22 May 2002. The selection date is 24 May 2002. The residency leader is Charlotte Brooks whose email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: ITSO pays authorized travel and living expenses for all residents, but does not compensate for the time or services of its residents. For IBMers, ITSO residency travel is pre-approved. Description: The redbook will describe how to protect computer systems from disaster on various platforms (including Windows 2000, Linux, Solaris and AIX, and certain key applications) using products from the Tivoli Storage Management set. It will document appropriate backup strategies and show how to test and perform a system (bare metal) recovery on each of the considered operating systems. Disaster recovery in the business context will also be discussed - ie the role of Tivoli Storage Manager in the enterprise's overall business continuance strategy. Objectives: The redbook will help customers plan for disaster recovery by showing how to protect and recover their critical business systems from a complete failure. To submit a nomination, you must use the online web nomination form: Customers and business partners can go directly to this announcement and its online nomination form using this link: http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Residents.nsf/GetResidency?OpenAgentID=TI-A212 IBMers with access to the IBM Intranet can go directly to this announcement and its online nomination form using this link: http://w3.itso.ibm.com/itsoapps/Residents.nsf/GetResidency?OpenAgentID=TI-A212 All residency information is available by clicking Residencies on the IBM Redbooks Internet site at http://ibm.com/redbooks. Employees of IBM will prefer using the IBM Intranet site http://w3.itso.ibm.com. The websites fully describe the residency process and offer online nomination forms.
Re: Residency Announcement: TI-A212 Disaster Recovery Strategies with Tivoli Storage Management - corrected URL
Zlatko is quite correct - the externally accessible URL for this residency announcement is: http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/residents.nsf/c0d5c6f1588c774985256ad1005da419/a8deda655431d1ec85256b9e000de509?OpenDocument Alternatively, go to the Redbooks home page http://ibm.com/redbooks, click on Residencies on the left hand side and locate the residency link for Disaster Recovery Strategies with Tivoli Storage Management Apologies, Charlotte Project Leader, Tape and Storage Management solutions, ITSO San Jose email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: (408) 927-3641 fax: (408) 927-3616 t/l: 8-457-3641 http://ibm.com/redbooks can you proof the URL sent is accesible from outside network 9.x.x.x (IBM Intranet)? AFAIK all w3.*.ibm.com are internal and we being outside IBM are not even able to resolve those name (for security reasons). Residencies do have external addresses and I was able to access them.
Re: Residency Announcement: TI-A212 Disaster Recovery Strategies with Tivoli Storage Management
Dear Mrs. Brooks, can you proof the URL sent is accesible from outside network 9.x.x.x (IBM Intranet)? AFAIK all w3.*.ibm.com are internal and we being outside IBM are not even able to resolve those name (for security reasons). Residencies do have external addresses and I was able to access them. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Residency Announcement: TI-A212 Disaster Recovery Strategies with Tivoli Storage Management This will be a very interesting project,producing a redbook covering a wide spectrum of DR-related activities. I encourage any interested parties to apply. More details of the residency are at http://w3.itso.ibm.com/itsoapps/residents.nsf/c0d5c6f1588c774985256ad1005da419/a8deda655431d1ec85256b9e000de509?OpenDocument Regards, Charlotte Project Leader, Tape and Storage Management solutions, ITSO San Jose email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: (408) 927-3641 fax: (408) 927-3616 t/l: 8-457-3641 http://ibm.com/redbooks Residency Announcement: TI-A212 Disaster Recovery Strategies with Tivoli Storage Management Benefits to Resident: The resident will test and document backup and bare metal recovery techniques on various OS platforms and applications using Tivoli Storage Management products (including DRM for the server). They will also put system-specific DR into a wider perspective - as part of an enterprise's overall business continuance plan. This San Jose residency begins 24 Jun 2002, ends 02 Aug 2002 (6 weeks), and requires 3 residents. Nominations should be submitted online on the Web by 22 May 2002. The selection date is 24 May 2002. The residency leader is Charlotte Brooks whose email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: ITSO pays authorized travel and living expenses for all residents, but does not compensate for the time or services of its residents. For IBMers, ITSO residency travel is pre-approved. Description: The redbook will describe how to protect computer systems from disaster on various platforms (including Windows 2000, Linux, Solaris and AIX, and certain key applications) using products from the Tivoli Storage Management set. It will document appropriate backup strategies and show how to test and perform a system (bare metal) recovery on each of the considered operating systems. Disaster recovery in the business context will also be discussed - ie the role of Tivoli Storage Manager in the enterprise's overall business continuance strategy. Objectives: The redbook will help customers plan for disaster recovery by showing how to protect and recover their critical business systems from a complete failure. To submit a nomination, you must use the online web nomination form: Customers and business partners can go directly to this announcement and its online nomination form using this link: http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Residents.nsf/GetResidency?OpenAgentID=TI-A212 IBMers with access to the IBM Intranet can go directly to this announcement and its online nomination form using this link: http://w3.itso.ibm.com/itsoapps/Residents.nsf/GetResidency?OpenAgentID=TI-A212 All residency information is available by clicking Residencies on the IBM Redbooks Internet site at http://ibm.com/redbooks. Employees of IBM will prefer using the IBM Intranet site http://w3.itso.ibm.com. The websites fully describe the residency process and offer online nomination forms.
Re: Database Unload
Jeff, I unload some of the tsm tables daily and then load them into db2. The method will depend on your server platform and the target dbms. My server is on OS/390 and the target is db2. Briefly the process is a batch job that does 'select * from nodes' with the output going to a file. the file is massaged to make it db2 loadable, then the file is passed to the db2 load utility. I do this daily for nodes, filespaces and associations, weekly for occupancy. Just this week I was asked to analyze the effects of changing the copygroup parameters. I am doing this by 'select columns from backups' for some randomly chosen filespaces, then loading the output into db2. If you want more info you can email me directly. -- Bill Colwell C. S. Draper Lab Cambridge Ma. At 04:24 PM 4/17/2002 +, you wrote: I have read a document presented at a SHARE conference in July 2001in relation to the TSM database structure. In the SQL section of that document, there is mention of a method to unloading to a true relational database for complicated query processing. However, the document does not describe the method. Anyone out there have a suggestion as to how we can achieve this. The document was written by Dave Cannon from the TSM development team Thanks Jeff White * This e-mail may contain confidential information or be privileged. It is intended to be read and used only by the named recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please notify us immediately so that we can make arrangements for its return: you should not disclose the contents of this e-mail to any other person, or take any copies. Unless stated otherwise by an authorised individual, nothing contained in this e-mail is intended to create binding legal obligations between us and opinions expressed are those of the individual author. The CIS marketing group, which is regulated for Investment Business by the Financial Services Authority, includes: Co-operative Insurance Society Limited Registered in England number 3615R - for life assurance and pensions CIS Unit Managers Limited Registered in England and Wales number 2369965 - for unit trusts and PEPs CIS Policyholder Services Limited Registered in England and Wales number 3390839 - for ISAs and investment products bearing the CIS name Registered offices: Miller Street, Manchester M60 0AL Telephone 0161-832-8686 Internet http://www.cis.co.uk E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] CIS Deposit and Instant Access Savings Accounts are held with The Co-operative Bank p.l.c., registered in England and Wales number 990937, P.O. Box 101, 1 Balloon Street, Manchester M60 4EP, and administered by CIS Policyholder Services Limited as agent of the Bank. CIS is a member of the General Insurance Standards Council CIS the CIS logo (R) Co-operative Insurance Society Limited
DB Recovery Log Copies
Hello! I have a test and a production system that were previously managed by two different groups. The test system has the DB and Recovery Log Volumes with copies of the volumes, but on production there are none. I have 18 volumes for the DB and only 1 volume for the recovery log. I was under the impression that these volumes are very important when problems arise. I do back up the DB every day and I delete the volume history after 180 days. Does anyone have any suggestions/comments on the idea of copying the volumes of the DB and the Recovery Log? I was also wondering if users use the spacetrigger feature on TSM or do you use other methods to extend these two things when they become full? I'd appreciate any ideas! Thanks!!! Joni Moyer Associate Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (717)975-8338
Re: Offsite Mirror of TSM server
That is what I guessed from the docs. I was hoping I was wrong ! So, of what value would a DB backup to a target server be ? I could never recover from it !!! Sounds like a partially implemented and of very limited use feature, to me !! Is anybody out there using a target server to perform backups of any kind ? If you do, the better question would be, why and how ? Prather, Wanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 01:03 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Offsite Mirror of TSM server My understanding is that when you use source/target server, you think of the target TSM server as just an electronic vault. It is NOT the same as having a backup TSM server. As you said, the objects in the target server's data base are archive objects. The metadata needed to restore the data is still in the DB of the SOURCE server. So you won't be able to do restores, until you build a repair/recovery source server and reload its DB. Now someone else might reasonably expect to reload the DB into a TSM server at the offsite location; but since you are planning for the target/source TSM's to be on different platforms, that won't be an option. You will need to rebuild the TSM server on your OS/390 recovery machine, wherever that is. -Original Message- From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Offsite Mirror of TSM server Let me preface this with, I am not sure how to completely ask these questions since I don't have all of the details but hopefully someone can give me some idea of how TSM can/will handle this, if at all possible. Current configuration: TSM 4.1 on OS/390 using 3590B tape drives in a 3494 ATL Requirements as I understand them: Setup a off-location hot site backup TSM server that will have copies of everything the main server and/or other TSM server (we are working on splitting the TSM traffic/load onto another TSM server) has. The hot site server will probably be an AIX box with 3590E (possibly FC) drives. I have looked into the source/target server issue but am a little confused since the target server will only see things that come from the source server as archive objects. If the building with the source server burns down (and this same building also houses a majority of the clients that are backed up !), how would the target server be used to restore all of the client nodes ? How about the database backups that are sent to the target server ? What use are they if you have to have the source server to identify what is on the target server ? Should I/could I setup database mirror volumes on a remote (target ?) server over simple IP connections or is this only possible with DASD using XRC processesespecially since the current, main database is on OS390 ? If this was moved to an AIX box, how would this be handled ? NFS ??? As you can tell, any and all guidance is greatly appreciated !!! Zoltan Forray Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - voice: 804-828-4807
Re: Offsite Mirror of TSM server
I did not intend to imply you can't restore the DB from the target server. What I meant is that you cannot restore client files from the target server. You have to get the source server up and running again. It's really no different from any other DR situation. If you lose your primary TSM server, you have to go and get the tapes out of the vault and reload the DB before you can do client restores. With server-to-server, your vault is electronic, so you don't have to physically go and get the tapes, the data comes over the wire. But you STILL have to reload the DB of the source server. -Original Message- From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offsite Mirror of TSM server That is what I guessed from the docs. I was hoping I was wrong ! So, of what value would a DB backup to a target server be ? I could never recover from it !!! Sounds like a partially implemented and of very limited use feature, to me !! Is anybody out there using a target server to perform backups of any kind ? If you do, the better question would be, why and how ? Prather, Wanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 01:03 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Offsite Mirror of TSM server My understanding is that when you use source/target server, you think of the target TSM server as just an electronic vault. It is NOT the same as having a backup TSM server. As you said, the objects in the target server's data base are archive objects. The metadata needed to restore the data is still in the DB of the SOURCE server. So you won't be able to do restores, until you build a repair/recovery source server and reload its DB. Now someone else might reasonably expect to reload the DB into a TSM server at the offsite location; but since you are planning for the target/source TSM's to be on different platforms, that won't be an option. You will need to rebuild the TSM server on your OS/390 recovery machine, wherever that is. -Original Message- From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Offsite Mirror of TSM server Let me preface this with, I am not sure how to completely ask these questions since I don't have all of the details but hopefully someone can give me some idea of how TSM can/will handle this, if at all possible. Current configuration: TSM 4.1 on OS/390 using 3590B tape drives in a 3494 ATL Requirements as I understand them: Setup a off-location hot site backup TSM server that will have copies of everything the main server and/or other TSM server (we are working on splitting the TSM traffic/load onto another TSM server) has. The hot site server will probably be an AIX box with 3590E (possibly FC) drives. I have looked into the source/target server issue but am a little confused since the target server will only see things that come from the source server as archive objects. If the building with the source server burns down (and this same building also houses a majority of the clients that are backed up !), how would the target server be used to restore all of the client nodes ? How about the database backups that are sent to the target server ? What use are they if you have to have the source server to identify what is on the target server ? Should I/could I setup database mirror volumes on a remote (target ?) server over simple IP connections or is this only possible with DASD using XRC processesespecially since the current, main database is on OS390 ? If this was moved to an AIX box, how would this be handled ? NFS ??? As you can tell, any and all guidance is greatly appreciated !!! Zoltan Forray Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - voice: 804-828-4807
Re: DB Recovery Log Copies
check to see if they are protecting the DB LOG files via OS level mirroring or maybe via some other form of RAID configuration... In our environment using plain SSA disks in a JBOD configuration I mirror (via tsm) the db log files but in our environments using our ESS storage unit I don't... Dwight E. Cook Software Application Engineer III Science Applications International Corporation 509 S. Boston Ave. Suit 220 Tulsa, Oklahoma 74103-4606 Office (918) 732-7109 -Original Message- From: Joni Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DB Recovery Log Copies Hello! I have a test and a production system that were previously managed by two different groups. The test system has the DB and Recovery Log Volumes with copies of the volumes, but on production there are none. I have 18 volumes for the DB and only 1 volume for the recovery log. I was under the impression that these volumes are very important when problems arise. I do back up the DB every day and I delete the volume history after 180 days. Does anyone have any suggestions/comments on the idea of copying the volumes of the DB and the Recovery Log? I was also wondering if users use the spacetrigger feature on TSM or do you use other methods to extend these two things when they become full? I'd appreciate any ideas! Thanks!!! Joni Moyer Associate Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (717)975-8338
Deleting data after an archive
Hi, This should be an easy one for you gurus! Does anyone know how to delete files out of a directory after the archive command has run? Thank you in advance
Re: IP over FC on AIX
Umm...re: the attached...that depends on the switch. The FC/9000 (IBM2042) and (I believe) the Brocades (2109's) will pass IP over fibre. Not sure about the McData's. -Lloyd On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 16:24:13 +0200 Daniel Sparrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sending IP traffic over your SAN will at least make your SAN switches confused, as I believe that they do not talk IP, only SCSI commands. -- - Lloyd Dieter- Senior Technology Consultant Synergy, Inc. http://www.synergyinc.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Main:716-389-1260fax:716-389-1267 -
Re: Deleting data after an archive
You can run the archive with the -deletefiles command! e.g. dsmc archive /home/* -deletefiles Regards, Demetrius -Original Message- From: Jason Schram [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Deleting data after an archive Hi, This should be an easy one for you gurus! Does anyone know how to delete files out of a directory after the archive command has run? Thank you in advance
Re: tsm database problem
I would just use the REDUCE DB as mentioned by some earlier. I've used it before to move things around. It's fairly quick, can be done with server running and doesn't require unload/load and space to do it. David Longo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/02 10:27AM Hi, I achieved to define my external 8mm tape drive as a drive and manual library. Now the point is: How risky is unloading the db and loading again? Does anybody have experience about troubles I may have? Best Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 16:26 Please respond to ADSM-L To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: tsm database problem Hi You don't have to use a manual library, a 3583 library will work. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervägen 6B 183 62 HÄGERNÄS Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Burak Demircan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-04-18 15:19 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: tsm database problem Hi, The TSM documentation says that I can do unloaddb with only a manual library. How can i do it with a 3583 LTO library? Is it possible to use my external 8mm tape drive? Thank you very much to all Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 16:07 Please respond to ADSM-L To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: tsm database problem Burak, In that case, you have to unload the database and then reload it using dsmserv unloaddb and dsmserv loaddb commands. So that your database is reorganized and takes minimum space to distribute itself. I hope, after doing unload and load database you will enough database space to reduce and then delete the database volume as per your wish. Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHRTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COMcc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: Re: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 06:00 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager But I can reduce it only 60 MBs although it is only 23 percent used? Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 15:26 Please respond to ADSM-L To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: tsm database problem Burak, You have assigned all the database space available to the TSM Server. You have to reduce the database size at least up to the size of the volume you want to delete. When you use Delete dbvolume volume_name command the data already existing in that volume then automatically get moved to the other volume. The bottom line is that you have to reduce equivalent size of the assigned database space before deleting the volume. Reduce the Database volume using this command, REDUCE DB SIZE_IN_MEGABYTE Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHRTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COMcc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: tsm database problem Manager
Re: TSM on SUN
Our experience with TSM on Solaris has been very good. Installation is very easy, upgrades are very easy and the code has good support from IBM/Tivoli. And the added benefit of not having to learn the iLogical Volume Manager! If your customer has a large Solaris site already, let them use TSM on Solaris. No point adding another Unix platform in this case. Now, if you asked about HP the story would be completely different. Kelly J. Lipp Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc. PO Box 51313 Colorado Springs, CO 80949 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com (719)531-5926 Fax: (240)539-7175 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pitur Ey~srsson Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM on SUN Hi guys A big company here in Iceland is thinking about installing TSM on SUN, they will be the first one to have TSM on SUN here. My question is, Is there anything I should know about (bugs, problems) anything sun related that is different from the other systems. Or should I recommend just using AIX.? Kvedja/Regards Petur Eythorsson Taeknimadur/Technician IBM Certified Specialist - AIX Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional Microsoft Certified System Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nyherji Hf Simi TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartun 37105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is
Re: Offsite Mirror of TSM server
This is such a key point when considering server-to-server! The short answer to this question does not begin to actually tell the story. Kelly J. Lipp Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc. PO Box 51313 Colorado Springs, CO 80949 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com (719)531-5926 Fax: (240)539-7175 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Prather, Wanda Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offsite Mirror of TSM server I did not intend to imply you can't restore the DB from the target server. What I meant is that you cannot restore client files from the target server. You have to get the source server up and running again. It's really no different from any other DR situation. If you lose your primary TSM server, you have to go and get the tapes out of the vault and reload the DB before you can do client restores. With server-to-server, your vault is electronic, so you don't have to physically go and get the tapes, the data comes over the wire. But you STILL have to reload the DB of the source server. -Original Message- From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offsite Mirror of TSM server That is what I guessed from the docs. I was hoping I was wrong ! So, of what value would a DB backup to a target server be ? I could never recover from it !!! Sounds like a partially implemented and of very limited use feature, to me !! Is anybody out there using a target server to perform backups of any kind ? If you do, the better question would be, why and how ? Prather, Wanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 01:03 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Offsite Mirror of TSM server My understanding is that when you use source/target server, you think of the target TSM server as just an electronic vault. It is NOT the same as having a backup TSM server. As you said, the objects in the target server's data base are archive objects. The metadata needed to restore the data is still in the DB of the SOURCE server. So you won't be able to do restores, until you build a repair/recovery source server and reload its DB. Now someone else might reasonably expect to reload the DB into a TSM server at the offsite location; but since you are planning for the target/source TSM's to be on different platforms, that won't be an option. You will need to rebuild the TSM server on your OS/390 recovery machine, wherever that is. -Original Message- From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Offsite Mirror of TSM server Let me preface this with, I am not sure how to completely ask these questions since I don't have all of the details but hopefully someone can give me some idea of how TSM can/will handle this, if at all possible. Current configuration: TSM 4.1 on OS/390 using 3590B tape drives in a 3494 ATL Requirements as I understand them: Setup a off-location hot site backup TSM server that will have copies of everything the main server and/or other TSM server (we are working on splitting the TSM traffic/load onto another TSM server) has. The hot site server will probably be an AIX box with 3590E (possibly FC) drives. I have looked into the source/target server issue but am a little confused since the target server will only see things that come from the source server as archive objects. If the building with the source server burns down (and this same building also houses a majority of the clients that are backed up !), how would the target server be used to restore all of the client nodes ? How about the database backups that are sent to the target server ? What use are they if you have to have the source server to identify what is on the target server ? Should I/could I setup database mirror volumes on a remote (target ?) server over simple IP connections or is this only possible with DASD using XRC processesespecially since the current, main database is on OS390 ? If this was moved to an AIX box, how would this be handled ? NFS ??? As you can tell, any and all guidance is greatly appreciated !!! Zoltan Forray Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - voice: 804-828-4807
Re: TSM on SUN
Hey, careful, some of us love the IBM LVM and find Veritas cumbersome and overly confusing. :-) While we are on the subject, we recently brought up our first TSM server on Solaris (our other 10 are on AIX) and had a question as to the disk setup. VxFs and VxVm are available to be used on the disks, but should we use raw volumes (i.e. /dev/vx/rdsk/stgdg/stg10) or mounted filesystems (i.e. using the dsmfmt to create the TSM devices)? We started using filesystems, but found the performance very poor. We tried tweaking some Veritas settings but could never get it to match the speed of the raw volumes, so we are now just using the raw volumes. We are using TSM mirroring for the DB and logs, so is there any added risk by using the VxVm raw volumes (as opposed to a logged filesystem)? Thanks, Ben -Original Message- From: Kelly J. Lipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM on SUN Our experience with TSM on Solaris has been very good. Installation is very easy, upgrades are very easy and the code has good support from IBM/Tivoli. And the added benefit of not having to learn the iLogical Volume Manager! If your customer has a large Solaris site already, let them use TSM on Solaris. No point adding another Unix platform in this case. Now, if you asked about HP the story would be completely different. Kelly J. Lipp Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc. PO Box 51313 Colorado Springs, CO 80949 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com (719)531-5926 Fax: (240)539-7175 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pitur Ey~srsson Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM on SUN Hi guys A big company here in Iceland is thinking about installing TSM on SUN, they will be the first one to have TSM on SUN here. My question is, Is there anything I should know about (bugs, problems) anything sun related that is different from the other systems. Or should I recommend just using AIX.? Kvedja/Regards Petur Eythorsson Taeknimadur/Technician IBM Certified Specialist - AIX Tivoli Storage Manager Certified Professional Microsoft Certified System Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nyherji Hf Simi TEL: +354-569-7700 Borgartun 37105 Iceland URL:http://www.nyherji.is
Re: sense errors
Try get a brand new Sony tape, Label the tape first using TSM Web admin or dsmlabel then check it into the library. Use that brand new Tape to do TSM operation. Is your SpectraLogic HVD 64000 drive has latest firmware please check http://www.spectralogic.com/support/firmware_12k_64k.cfm How about latest TSM fix pack?? at http://www.tivoli.com/support/storage_mgr/serverpatches.html Tivoli Storage Management Function Verification Test , FVT Automation Project Lead Office:408-256-3312 Home:650-757-1661 Cell:415-218-7880 AIM:smartbluewong Dept Y0LA /Bldg 050-3 / Office 3A64 IBM SSG Division 46 Johnn D. Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 04/18/2002 01:31:27 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:sense errors Does anyone have any ideas on the following errors that showed up in our TSM activity log? We have TSM 4.1.3 server running on AIX 4.3.3ML9, connected to a SpectraLogic HVD 64000/Gator (with Sony SDX-500C drives). We've sent the sense code info to Tivoli as well as SpectraLogic, but they point at each other or general SCSI problems. We've already swapped out the cables, the terminators, even one of the SCSI cards. We've cleaned the drives, changed the filters, re-connected the cables, etc. Even though all of the below are on DRIVE1, it actually happens to all six of our drives eventually. I checked the TSM Messages manual, and it's not that helpful. * I'm writing not so much to get a definitive answer (as that's obviously something specific to our site setup), but more for other clues or leads that I could investigate. Maybe Tivoli, SpectraLogic, and our own group have all been looking in the wrong direction. * By the way, we get these on a more-or-less regular basis, like one set of three (such as below) per week or every other week. Thanks for any leads. johnn 04/18/02 07:43:55 ANR8302E I/O error on drive DRIVE1 (/dev/mt0) (OP=READ, CC=306, KEY=03, ASC=31, ASCQ=00, SENSE=F0.00.03.00.00.80.00.14.00.00.00.00.31.00.00.00.CE- .00.00.00.00.B8.01.4D.20.50., Description=Drive or media failure). Refer to Appendix B in the 'Messages' manual for recommended action. 04/18/02 07:56:40 ANR8302E I/O error on drive DRIVE1 (/dev/mt0) (OP=READ, CC=306, KEY=03, ASC=31, ASCQ=00, SENSE=F0.00.03.00.00.80.00.14.00.00.00.00.31.00.00.00.CE- .00.00.00.00.EC.01.4C.60.70., Description=Drive or media failure). Refer to Appendix B in the 'Messages' manual for recommended action. 04/18/02 08:06:17 ANR8302E I/O error on drive DRIVE1 (/dev/mt0) (OP=READ, CC=306, KEY=03, ASC=31, ASCQ=00, SENSE=F0.00.03.00.00.80.00.14.00.00.00.00.31.00.00.00.CE- .00.00.00.01.24.01.46.68.00., Description=Drive or media failure). Refer to Appendix B in the 'Messages' manual for recommended action.
Re: Offsite Mirror of TSM server
Could you not start a second instance of the server on the target server, restore the db from the source server into this second instance? Then the server-to-server would still operate, but it would be within the one machine! In theory, of course... M. This is such a key point when considering server-to-server! The short answer to this question does not begin to actually tell the story. Kelly J. Lipp Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc. PO Box 51313 Colorado Springs, CO 80949 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.storsol.com or www.storserver.com (719)531-5926 Fax: (240)539-7175 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Prather, Wanda Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offsite Mirror of TSM server I did not intend to imply you can't restore the DB from the target server. What I meant is that you cannot restore client files from the target server. You have to get the source server up and running again. It's really no different from any other DR situation. If you lose your primary TSM server, you have to go and get the tapes out of the vault and reload the DB before you can do client restores. With server-to-server, your vault is electronic, so you don't have to physically go and get the tapes, the data comes over the wire. But you STILL have to reload the DB of the source server. -Original Message- From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offsite Mirror of TSM server That is what I guessed from the docs. I was hoping I was wrong ! So, of what value would a DB backup to a target server be ? I could never recover from it !!! Sounds like a partially implemented and of very limited use feature, to me !! Is anybody out there using a target server to perform backups of any kind ? If you do, the better question would be, why and how ? Prather, Wanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 01:03 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Offsite Mirror of TSM server My understanding is that when you use source/target server, you think of the target TSM server as just an electronic vault. It is NOT the same as having a backup TSM server. As you said, the objects in the target server's data base are archive objects. The metadata needed to restore the data is still in the DB of the SOURCE server. So you won't be able to do restores, until you build a repair/recovery source server and reload its DB. Now someone else might reasonably expect to reload the DB into a TSM server at the offsite location; but since you are planning for the target/source TSM's to be on different platforms, that won't be an option. You will need to rebuild the TSM server on your OS/390 recovery machine, wherever that is. -Original Message- From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Offsite Mirror of TSM server Let me preface this with, I am not sure how to completely ask these questions since I don't have all of the details but hopefully someone can give me some idea of how TSM can/will handle this, if at all possible. Current configuration: TSM 4.1 on OS/390 using 3590B tape drives in a 3494 ATL Requirements as I understand them: Setup a off-location hot site backup TSM server that will have copies of everything the main server and/or other TSM server (we are working on splitting the TSM traffic/load onto another TSM server) has. The hot site server will probably be an AIX box with 3590E (possibly FC) drives. I have looked into the source/target server issue but am a little confused since the target server will only see things that come from the source server as archive objects. If the building with the source server burns down (and this same building also houses a majority of the clients that are backed up !), how would the target server be used to restore all of the client nodes ? How about the database backups that are sent to the target server ? What use are they if you have to have the source server to identify what is on the target server ? Should I/could I setup database mirror volumes on a remote (target ?) server over simple IP connections or is this only possible with DASD using XRC processesespecially since the current, main database is on OS390 ? If this was moved to an AIX box, how would this be handled ? NFS ??? As you can tell, any and all guidance is greatly appreciated !!! Zoltan Forray Virginia Commonwealth University - University Computing Center e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - voice: 804-828-4807
Re: Daily Backup Report
Here's how we do it: At the dsmadmc prompt: def scr daily_report desc=Create a daily backup report line=1 upd scr daily_report cmd=q sch * * begind=-$1 begint=now endd=-$2 endt=now line=2 DON'T omit the negative sign preceding the $1 and $2! (Sorry if I blew the syntax a little bit on line 2, I don't have documentation at home. If there's any trouble, just issue the command help upd scr--you can sort it out for yourself.) The two asterisks in line 2 indicate, first, all policy domains, second, all node names. If you want to separate policy domains, by all means just define more than one script. Then, when you want the daily, at the dsmadmc prompt: run daily_report 1 0 outfilemmdd.txt Where mmdd indicate the month and day, or establish your own convention. So, on Monday, when we want a report for each day over the weekend, we type, again at the dsmadmc prompt (example is for next Monday): run daily_report 3 2 tsma0420.txt run daily_report 2 1 tsma0421.txt run daily_report 1 0 tsma0422.txt This yields a nice little report which prints nicely to a landscape 8.5x11 page, and includes, among other items, the scheduled start time, the actual start time, the policy domain name, the node name, the schedule name, and the completion status. The report lends itself to post-processing if you want to clean it up for import into Word or another text processor, and, on 8.5x11 paper, you even have room to annotate a cause for non-completion status, etc., in case your boss is a little bit interested! If you add f=d at the end of the cmd= in line 2, you will get a little more detailed report which also includes the completion time, but might not fit on a landscape oriented 8.5x11 page. Also, if you want to post-process with Excel, you might consider using the command dsmadmc -comma. Your redirected output files will be in comma-separated value format which is nice for importing to Excel. Hope this helps, Dennis Anyone looking for a pretty fair TSM Administrator? Glover Yes, Andy, the command line is your friend. And mine.
V3.1 clients on V4.2 server OK?
We are about to (finally) upgrade our server to 4.2, but we have a lot of V3.1 clients. Will they continue to work? I sure hope so, because I'd like to follow the recommendation in the TSM manuals which is to upgrade the server first, and then the clients, however I've heard rumors of problems in this area. The client platforms are MS Win32, AIX, Solaris, Mac... Will the new V5.1 client for Mac OSX work with a V4.2 server? Roger Deschner University of Illinois at Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED] ==I have not lost my mind -- it is backed up on tape somewhere.=
TDP for Exchange RC=425 on Information Store
Has anyone else seen this and solved it? ANE4993E (Session: 9538, Node: NNSE8_XCH) TDP MSExchgV2 NT ACN3502 TDP for Microsoft Exchange: full backup of Information Store from server NNSE8 failed, rc = 425. The biggest problem is the thing gives a good return code when it happens. Now it happens so frequently it is becoming a problem. We think it has to do with Norton-AV. TDP for Exchange, latest Client 4.2.1.26 AIX 4.3.3 Server 4.2.1.11 Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180
Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working...
I will give this a try when I get brave enough to trust it will no kill my system. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... Hi Paul, Try the 5.1.0.1 ODBC driver. From Excel XP, I am able to use the Import feature as well as the DB query feature (via MSQRY32) to get data into an Excel spreadsheet. By the way, even they are not supported, with this version of the driver, I have had success in connecting via: - DB2 Warehouse Manager - JDBC-ODBC bridge - ActiveState Perl (version 5.005_03, build 522 + roth ODBC driver dated 12-21-1991 from www.roth.net) - Crystal Reports (known to work with earlier TSM ODBC driver versions) - Access XP (probably will be supported this year) - Excel XP (probably will be supported this year) - VBScript (known to work with earlier TSM ODBC driver versions) - Visual Basic 6.0 (using Microsoft ADO Data Control 6.0 SP4 and Microsoft DataGrid Control 6.0 SP5) Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Seay, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/05/2002 08:53 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... Actually Andy, I cannot remember what I was trying to do with EXCEL XP. But, when I tried it again I get an application error trying to read location 0x0. A test connection works, but I cannot do the OK to open the database. -Original Message- From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... What version of the ODBC driver are you using, which version of Excel, and what symptoms are you seeing? The latest ODBC driver should work okay with Excel 97 and 2000 (haven't tested with Office XP yet, but in theory, should work there, too). You can confirm the version by starting the ODBC Data Source Administrator (odbcad32.exe), selecting the Drivers tab, then scrolling down and looking at the TSM ODBC Driver driver. You should then be able to see the driver's version number and build date. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Seay, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/04/2002 19:38 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... When I installed it on W2K, I had to logoff and back on. Do not know why but that was the minimum restart to get it to work. I worked on it for hours. I have never been successful at using EXCEL but I have been very successful with ACCESS. What application are you trying to use to access the database. -Original Message- From: Coats, Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... I am using Windows 98se as my desktop client machine -- this is my first time doing anything with ODBC, but I now others have been using it for quite a while here on this list. I had our local 'expert' who uses ODBC for other applications here come and check out my setup, and everything looks good to him. ... Bummer. -Original Message- From: Tab Trepagnier [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... Jack, What client OS are you running? I just installed the TSM Windows client onto Windows XP, and my previously-working ODBC link no longer works. Upgrading the TSM client from 4.1.3 to the latest 4.2.x did not solve the problem. I'm only into this problem less than an hour, so I haven't had a chance to do much about it yet. I will probably call Tivoli if nothing useful surfaces on the forum. Tab Trepagnier TSM Administrator Laitram Corporation Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:TSM/ODBC connection not working... I have ODBC installed on my client. Do I need to enable something on our TSM server to get it to work?
Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working...
Paul, is that just general precaution you exercise with any new software, or has the ODBC driver actually taken down your system before? I have never heard of such a problem (I've seen the application crash as you described earlier, but not an entire system; and I am not aware of any crash defects like that in the 5.1.0.1 driver). Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Seay, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 20:10 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... I will give this a try when I get brave enough to trust it will no kill my system. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... Hi Paul, Try the 5.1.0.1 ODBC driver. From Excel XP, I am able to use the Import feature as well as the DB query feature (via MSQRY32) to get data into an Excel spreadsheet. By the way, even they are not supported, with this version of the driver, I have had success in connecting via: - DB2 Warehouse Manager - JDBC-ODBC bridge - ActiveState Perl (version 5.005_03, build 522 + roth ODBC driver dated 12-21-1991 from www.roth.net) - Crystal Reports (known to work with earlier TSM ODBC driver versions) - Access XP (probably will be supported this year) - Excel XP (probably will be supported this year) - VBScript (known to work with earlier TSM ODBC driver versions) - Visual Basic 6.0 (using Microsoft ADO Data Control 6.0 SP4 and Microsoft DataGrid Control 6.0 SP5) Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Seay, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/05/2002 08:53 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... Actually Andy, I cannot remember what I was trying to do with EXCEL XP. But, when I tried it again I get an application error trying to read location 0x0. A test connection works, but I cannot do the OK to open the database. -Original Message- From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... What version of the ODBC driver are you using, which version of Excel, and what symptoms are you seeing? The latest ODBC driver should work okay with Excel 97 and 2000 (haven't tested with Office XP yet, but in theory, should work there, too). You can confirm the version by starting the ODBC Data Source Administrator (odbcad32.exe), selecting the Drivers tab, then scrolling down and looking at the TSM ODBC Driver driver. You should then be able to see the driver's version number and build date. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Seay, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/04/2002 19:38 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... When I installed it on W2K, I had to logoff and back on. Do not know why but that was the minimum restart to get it to work. I worked on it for hours. I have never been successful at using EXCEL but I have been very successful with ACCESS. What application are you trying to use to access the database. -Original Message- From: Coats, Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... I am using Windows 98se as my desktop client machine -- this is my first time doing anything with ODBC, but I now others have been using it for quite a while here on this list. I had our local 'expert' who uses ODBC for other applications here come and check out my setup, and everything looks good to him. ... Bummer. -Original Message- From: Tab Trepagnier [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM/ODBC connection not
Re: tsm database problem
Hello, I don't see that you would have any problem with unload and load db. However, if you want to be more secure then backup you database before starting unload and load exercise. In case, you get into some trouble then you can restore you database. Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHRTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COMcc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: Re: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 07:57 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi, I achieved to define my external 8mm tape drive as a drive and manual library. Now the point is: How risky is unloading the db and loading again? Does anybody have experience about troubles I may have? Best Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 16:26 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Hi You don't have to use a manual library, a 3583 library will work. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman --- Daniel Sparrman Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervägen 6B 183 62 HÄGERNÄS Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Burak Demircan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-04-18 15:19 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Hi, The TSM documentation says that I can do unloaddb with only a manual library. How can i do it with a 3583 LTO library? Is it possible to use my external 8mm tape drive? Thank you very much to all Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 16:07 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Burak, In that case, you have to unload the database and then reload it using dsmserv unloaddb and dsmserv loaddb commands. So that your database is reorganized and takes minimum space to distribute itself. I hope, after doing unload and load database you will enough database space to reduce and then delete the database volume as per your wish. Regards, Mahesh Prasad DCM Data Systems Limited New Delhi, India Burak Demircan burak.demircan@DAIMLERCHR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] YSLER.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Subject: Re: tsm database problem Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 06:00 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager But I can reduce it only 60 MBs although it is only 23 percent used? Regards, Burak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 18.04.2002 15:26 Please respond to ADSM-L To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: tsm database problem Burak, You have assigned all the database space available to the TSM Server. You have to reduce the database size at least up to the size of the volume you want to delete. When you use Delete dbvolume volume_name command the data already existing in that volume then automatically get moved to the other volume. The bottom line is that you have to reduce equivalent size of the assigned database space before deleting the volume. Reduce the Database volume using this command, REDUCE
Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working...
When it comes to Windows, you make sure you can recover before you install anything. -Original Message- From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... Paul, is that just general precaution you exercise with any new software, or has the ODBC driver actually taken down your system before? I have never heard of such a problem (I've seen the application crash as you described earlier, but not an entire system; and I am not aware of any crash defects like that in the 5.1.0.1 driver). Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Seay, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/18/2002 20:10 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... I will give this a try when I get brave enough to trust it will no kill my system. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... Hi Paul, Try the 5.1.0.1 ODBC driver. From Excel XP, I am able to use the Import feature as well as the DB query feature (via MSQRY32) to get data into an Excel spreadsheet. By the way, even they are not supported, with this version of the driver, I have had success in connecting via: - DB2 Warehouse Manager - JDBC-ODBC bridge - ActiveState Perl (version 5.005_03, build 522 + roth ODBC driver dated 12-21-1991 from www.roth.net) - Crystal Reports (known to work with earlier TSM ODBC driver versions) - Access XP (probably will be supported this year) - Excel XP (probably will be supported this year) - VBScript (known to work with earlier TSM ODBC driver versions) - Visual Basic 6.0 (using Microsoft ADO Data Control 6.0 SP4 and Microsoft DataGrid Control 6.0 SP5) Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Seay, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/05/2002 08:53 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... Actually Andy, I cannot remember what I was trying to do with EXCEL XP. But, when I tried it again I get an application error trying to read location 0x0. A test connection works, but I cannot do the OK to open the database. -Original Message- From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... What version of the ODBC driver are you using, which version of Excel, and what symptoms are you seeing? The latest ODBC driver should work okay with Excel 97 and 2000 (haven't tested with Office XP yet, but in theory, should work there, too). You can confirm the version by starting the ODBC Data Source Administrator (odbcad32.exe), selecting the Drivers tab, then scrolling down and looking at the TSM ODBC Driver driver. You should then be able to see the driver's version number and build date. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Seay, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/04/2002 19:38 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... When I installed it on W2K, I had to logoff and back on. Do not know why but that was the minimum restart to get it to work. I worked on it for hours. I have never been successful at using EXCEL but I have been very successful with ACCESS. What application are you trying to use to access the database. -Original Message- From: Coats, Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 1:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM/ODBC connection not working... I am using Windows 98se as my desktop client machine -- this is my first time doing anything with ODBC, but I now others have been using it for quite a while here on this list. I had our local 'expert' who uses ODBC for other
