is this ok ?

2004-11-03 Thread goc
db size 19GB , 5 volumes on SSA disks in RAID 5
tsm 5.2.3.3
on
aix 5.2-03
ACTIVITY Date
Pages backedUp/Hr
-- --
 -
FULL_DBBACKUP  2004-11-02  14616000
FULL_DBBACKUP  2004-11-02  11044800
FULL_DBBACKUP  2004-11-02  10720800
FULL_DBBACKUP  2004-11-03  14439600
FULL_DBBACKUP  2004-11-03  11239200
thanks


Re: is this ok ?

2004-11-03 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi,

Performance guide tells us that values over 5.000.000 pages/hr are OK,
so you're in the scope ! 
On our system, tsm 5.2.2.1 over aix 5.2-03, db size 31 MB, installed on
SSA (4 disks striped and mirrored over lvm) we get more or less the same
values...
Hope this helped.
Cheers.


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db size 19GB , 5 volumes on SSA disks in RAID 5 tsm 5.2.3.3 on aix
5.2-03

ACTIVITY Date
Pages backedUp/Hr
-- --
  -
FULL_DBBACKUP  2004-11-02  14616000
FULL_DBBACKUP  2004-11-02  11044800
FULL_DBBACKUP  2004-11-02  10720800
FULL_DBBACKUP  2004-11-03  14439600
FULL_DBBACKUP  2004-11-03  11239200

thanks


Attributes changing

2004-11-03 Thread Joni Moyer
Hello All!

I have noticed this message occurring very frequently within the activity
log and was wondering if this is an issue that should be looked into
further or if this is just the tcp address changing?  I looked up the
message and it just states that the GUID has changed for the server, but
this is happening all of the time and I was getting concerned.  Thank you!

11/02/04 15:27:26 ANR1639I Attributes changed for node FJSU011: TCP
Address
from 157.154.44.168 to 157.154.44.232. (SESSION:
3354)


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Re: TRACING

2004-11-03 Thread David E Ehresman
The synax will differ depending on your version of TSM.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/2/2004 11:56:10 AM 
Hello All,

 I am having a difficult time setting up a trace.  I need to trace a
backup I am trying to perform because it keeps failing in the same
place.  I know I need to add something to the DSM.OPT file but I have
forgotten what it is, and also is there something on the server side I
need to do as well.  Any help is always appreciated, and thank you in
advance.

Thanks

James


Storage Agent config

2004-11-03 Thread Joni Moyer




Hello!

I am configuring lan-free communication for several solaris Oracle servers.
I have set up server to server communication, installed Gresham EDT 6.4.6,
defined the storage agent, etc.  I am very confused concerning how to
logon to the storage agent through the TSM Server and also how to even
logon to a regular command line interface.  I know that the storage agent
info. is located at /opt/tivoli/tsm/StorageAgent/bin, but I'm a little
unclear about the rest.  I was looking through the Storage Agent User's
guide and it just confuses me more because my definitions are slightly
different.  I have successfully backed up data lan-free, but this was done
months ago and I'm a little rusty.  Here is what I am confused about:

1. Login to the storage agent's command line.  In my case this would be
fjsu011sa.
2. Login to fjsu011sa through the TSM server.
3. How do I know what is expected for communication between the client,
storage agent and server?

Here are my storage agent options file, dsm.sys file for the client and the
information on the definitions I have on the TSM server for the storage
agent and the client.  This is being run on an AIX 5.2 TSM 5.2.2.5 server.

(See attached file: dsmsta.opt.txt)(See attached file: dsm.sys.txt)(See
attached file: Client Info.txt)

Thanks in advance!


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dsm.sys.txt
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Client Info.txt
Description: Binary data


restore of a server windows 2000 after a disk crash

2004-11-03 Thread hassan hani
hello,
we have a backup of a server windows 2000 under TSM.
the backup consists of a complete backup of the server ( system object,
partitions C and D)
when we have a crash of disks, we want to use the backup under TSM.
We replace disks and install OS and TSM client, but when we restore
partitions C, D and system object, the server can't start up.

My question is:
Is there a procedure to use and exploit the backup of system object and Data
, because in my case, the data are restored but the system object restored
cause the server to stop working.
thanks you
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Re: TRACING

2004-11-03 Thread Lepre, James
Version 5.2.2.2

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Subject: Re: TRACING

The synax will differ depending on your version of TSM.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/2/2004 11:56:10 AM 
Hello All,

 I am having a difficult time setting up a trace.  I need to trace a
backup I am trying to perform because it keeps failing in the same
place.  I know I need to add something to the DSM.OPT file but I have
forgotten what it is, and also is there something on the server side I
need to do as well.  Any help is always appreciated, and thank you in
advance.

Thanks

James


Re: Upgrading TSM Server from 5.1.6.3 to 5.2.3.0

2004-11-03 Thread Christopher Zahorak

Hi David,

Thanks for the heads up on the install. I completed it yesterday. The
process of upgrading involved getting a base 5.2.2.0, then going to 5.2.3.0
and then finally to 5.2.3.4. The only problem I noticed right away was my
license files were the incorrect format. I had a 5.2 CD and used the files
tivoli.tsm.license.cert  tivoli.tsm.license.rte from it to install the
correct format license files. After registering them, the system was fine.

Thanks again for the help and the virtual coffee is on me.

Chris.


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Sr. AIX and Tivoli Administrator

University of Windsor
IT Services, Rm 203
401 Sunset Avenue
Windsor, Ontario
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I did an upgrade from 5.1.6.3 to 5.2.3.1 without incident.  Just
remember that in addtion to the 5.2.3.x code, you'll need a 5.2.0.0 base
code.  I think you also need an imtermidate level, maybe 5.2.2.0.  Do a
preview yes install to make sure you have all the needed levels.  I'm
running on an AIX 5.1 ML5 64 bit mode box.

David

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/2004 8:37:38 AM 
I will be upgrading my TSM Server from 5.1.63 to 5.2.3. Other than
making
sure I have a full backup of my database, is there anything else I
should
be aware of before upgrading? My server runs AIX 5.2 ML4 in a 32bit
environment.

Thanks,

Chris.

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Re: TRACING

2004-11-03 Thread Henrik Wahlstedt
Check tracing under
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/tividd/td/TSMM/SC32-9103-00/en_US/HTML/index.html.

//Henrik




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The synax will differ depending on your version of TSM.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/2/2004 11:56:10 AM 
Hello All,

 I am having a difficult time setting up a trace.  I need to trace a
backup I am trying to perform because it keeps failing in the same
place.  I know I need to add something to the DSM.OPT file but I have
forgotten what it is, and also is there something on the server side I
need to do as well.  Any help is always appreciated, and thank you in
advance.

Thanks

James




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Re: Attributes changing

2004-11-03 Thread Andrew Raibeck
If you hop over to the ibm web site (http://www.ibm.com) and do a search
on the message number, ANS1639I, you'll find some articles that might shed
some light for you. Also search the ADSM-L archives for the message
number.

Regards,

Andy

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IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/03/2004
05:22:33:

 Hello All!

 I have noticed this message occurring very frequently within the
activity
 log and was wondering if this is an issue that should be looked into
 further or if this is just the tcp address changing?  I looked up the
 message and it just states that the GUID has changed for the server, but
 this is happening all of the time and I was getting concerned.  Thank
you!

 11/02/04 15:27:26 ANR1639I Attributes changed for node FJSU011: TCP
 Address
 from 157.154.44.168 to 157.154.44.232. (SESSION:
 3354)

 
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Re: restore of a server windows 2000 after a disk crash

2004-11-03 Thread Prather, Wanda
Go to www.ibm.com and search for this:

Modified instructions for complete Restores of Windows Systems

You will find the revised instructions IBM published in March 2004.

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hassan hani
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 9:03 AM
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Subject: restore of a server windows 2000 after a disk crash


hello,

we have a backup of a server windows 2000 under TSM.

the backup consists of a complete backup of the server ( system object,
partitions C and D)

when we have a crash of disks, we want to use the backup under TSM.

We replace disks and install OS and TSM client, but when we restore
partitions C, D and system object, the server can't start up.



My question is:

Is there a procedure to use and exploit the backup of system object and
Data
, because in my case, the data are restored but the system object
restored
cause the server to stop working.

thanks you

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Windows TSM server Crash

2004-11-03 Thread Luc Beaudoin
Hi all

I have a big problem 
Is there a step by step procedure when a Windows 2000 TSM server crash 


I have to rebuild mine and I dont know where to start .. I have full 
backup of the serer .. but since it is dead ... I'm kindda stuck

Thanks 

Luc Beaudoin
Administrateur RĂ©seau / Network Administrator/TSM
Hopital General Juif S.M.B.D.
Tel: (514) 340-8222 ext:8254 


Re: Windows TSM server Crash

2004-11-03 Thread Stapleton, Mark
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Luc Beaudoin
Is there a step by step procedure when a Windows 2000 TSM 
server crash 

I have to rebuild mine and I dont know where to start .. I 
have full backup of the serer .. but since it is dead ... I'm 
kindda stuck

...which is a good reason why a documented DR solution *must* contain
*at least* documentaiton on how to restore the TSM server.

Rule #1 of disaster recovery:
Practice it, before you have to.

--
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Re: Windows TSM server Crash

2004-11-03 Thread Luc Beaudoin
Thanks Mark ...

That is exactly what I'm doing now ... in my lab
I still don't know where to start ... my TSM server is down, I formatted
it ... installed  win2k OS ...

Now .. what are the steps ... re-install TSM server,  I dont have a
clue ..
 I tested (and documented) windows server restore, SQL servers DB restore
... Domain controller restore ... NOW I'm stuck with TSM server
restore

thanks again

Luc





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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Luc Beaudoin
Is there a step by step procedure when a Windows 2000 TSM
server crash 

I have to rebuild mine and I dont know where to start .. I
have full backup of the serer .. but since it is dead ... I'm
kindda stuck

...which is a good reason why a documented DR solution *must* contain
*at least* documentaiton on how to restore the TSM server.

Rule #1 of disaster recovery:
Practice it, before you have to.

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Berbee Information Networks
Office 262.521.5627


Re: TRACING

2004-11-03 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Normally tracing is most useful when working with IBM support or
development to diagnose a problem. The trace settings you need, and what
components you need to trace depend on the nature of the problem.

Perhaps if you were to describe your TSM environment and the problem you
are having, and include actual documentation showing the problem, someone
on this list might already know what you are seeing, eliminating the need
to trace at all.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.



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Subject: Re: TRACING

The synax will differ depending on your version of TSM.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/2/2004 11:56:10 AM 
Hello All,

 I am having a difficult time setting up a trace.  I need to trace a
backup I am trying to perform because it keeps failing in the same
place.  I know I need to add something to the DSM.OPT file but I have
forgotten what it is, and also is there something on the server side I
need to do as well.  Any help is always appreciated, and thank you in
advance.

Thanks

James


Re: TRACING

2004-11-03 Thread Lepre, James
I am currently trying to backed up a directory with about 3 million
files in it.  The problem I am having is that is gets to a point and
then fails at about 2.3million files.  I was hoping to trace this
problem and find out if it was failing on a particular file.  So how
would I set a trace for this...

-Original Message-
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Andrew Raibeck
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TRACING

Normally tracing is most useful when working with IBM support or
development to diagnose a problem. The trace settings you need, and what
components you need to trace depend on the nature of the problem.

Perhaps if you were to describe your TSM environment and the problem you
are having, and include actual documentation showing the problem,
someone
on this list might already know what you are seeing, eliminating the
need
to trace at all.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.



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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:17 AM
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Subject: Re: TRACING

The synax will differ depending on your version of TSM.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/2/2004 11:56:10 AM 
Hello All,

 I am having a difficult time setting up a trace.  I need to trace a
backup I am trying to perform because it keeps failing in the same
place.  I know I need to add something to the DSM.OPT file but I have
forgotten what it is, and also is there something on the server side I
need to do as well.  Any help is always appreciated, and thank you in
advance.

Thanks

James


Re: Windows TSM server Crash

2004-11-03 Thread Stapleton, Mark
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Luc Beaudoin
That is exactly what I'm doing now ... in my lab I still don't 
know where to start ... my TSM server is down, I formatted it 
... installed  win2k OS ...

Now .. what are the steps ... re-install TSM server,  I 
dont have a clue ..
 I tested (and documented) windows server restore, SQL servers 
DB restore ... Domain controller restore ... NOW I'm stuck 
with TSM server restore

Read Wanda Prather's response to your initial request; it's on the money
as to what you need to do.

The point I was making is that you really should have had a DR drill,
prior to your actual disaster. If you had, you would now have
documentation telling everything you need to do, step by step.

Sorry for the pickle you're in now; good luck to you.

--
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Berbee Information Networks
Office 262.521.5627  


Re: TRACING

2004-11-03 Thread Richard Sims
On Nov 3, 2004, at 11:17 AM, Lepre, James wrote:
I am currently trying to backed up a directory with about 3 million
files in it.  The problem I am having is that is gets to a point and
then fails at about 2.3million files.  I was hoping to trace this
problem and find out if it was failing on a particular file.  So how
would I set a trace for this...
James - When posting to this technical forum, we can help you only
when you provide details...
Provide us with the error indication you are experiencing.
Tell us what kind of TSM operation is being performed (command
string literal, GUI operation, etc.)
A directory containing 3 million files is absurd to start with
(unless you really mean a meta directory with a tree of subdirs).
If it is actually millions of files within a single directory,
get the owner to render that rational, with subdirectories.
You may well be running out of virtual storage space if performing
an incremental backup, in which case that client system needs a
vstorage boost.
   Richard Sims


Re: Windows TSM server Crash

2004-11-03 Thread Luc Beaudoin
Thanks again Mark

But maybe I'm not clear enought ... let me try to put it simple

I am doing a Disaster recovery plan.  I made a lab with three win2k
servers(DC, File server/SQL, TSM server) and 1 win2k workstation

I made documentation and procedure for those disasters:
- Restore a win2000 server (file server)
- Restore a win2000 server with SQL 2000
- Restore a win2000 server that is a domain controller

The one that I have problem with is - Restore a windows 2000 server with
TSM SERVER on it (THE TSM SERVER)
To re-install the OS on it .. no problem ... but How can I restore the
data if the THE TSM SERVER is dead ... what R the steps ...
exemple :
1. install TSM SERVER software
2. configure drive or library
3. import node or volumes ..
4 ... etc ..

that is what I'm looking for .. the steps after the OS is up to put THE
TSM SERVER back on-line with THE TSM DB, POLICY DOMAINS, NODES, SCHEDULES

hope it's more clear

thanks

Luc


Re: TRACING

2004-11-03 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Someone else posted on this thread the link to the TSM Problem
Determination Guide, which includes info on tracing.

But I sure don't know enough about the problem to advise you on what to
trace, i.e. what does fails mean? What message are you seeing in
dsmsched.log, dsmerror,log, or stdout, that coincide with the failed
operation? How about on the TSM server? What versions of client and server
are you running, and on what operating systems? Need specifics here.
Again, if we knew more about the nature of the problem, you might not even
need to trace at all. If you just want to know on what file, then I would
think that dsmsched.log or stdout would show you this, or at least give
you a rough idea if the failure occurs consistently in the same place. But
tracing as the first step in diagnostics is ill-advised, and if you were
call in to support and I were working with you, it would not be the first
thing we would do, just as I would not agree to start exploratory surgery
unless I already had a pretty good understanding of my patient's symptoms.
***


*** Note: This is just an analogy, I am not practicing medicine.

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/03/2004
09:17:22:

 I am currently trying to backed up a directory with about 3 million
 files in it.  The problem I am having is that is gets to a point and
 then fails at about 2.3million files.  I was hoping to trace this
 problem and find out if it was failing on a particular file.  So how
 would I set a trace for this...

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Andrew Raibeck
 Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 10:01 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: TRACING

 Normally tracing is most useful when working with IBM support or
 development to diagnose a problem. The trace settings you need, and what
 components you need to trace depend on the nature of the problem.

 Perhaps if you were to describe your TSM environment and the problem you
 are having, and include actual documentation showing the problem,
 someone
 on this list might already know what you are seeing, eliminating the
 need
 to trace at all.

 Regards,

 Andy

 Andy Raibeck
 IBM Software Group
 Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
 Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
 The command line is your friend.
 Good enough is the enemy of excellence.



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 Subject: Re: TRACING

 The synax will differ depending on your version of TSM.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/2/2004 11:56:10 AM 
 Hello All,

  I am having a difficult time setting up a trace.  I need to trace a
 backup I am trying to perform because it keeps failing in the same
 place.  I know I need to add something to the DSM.OPT file but I have
 forgotten what it is, and also is there something on the server side I
 need to do as well.  Any help is always appreciated, and thank you in
 advance.

 Thanks

 James


Re: Windows TSM server Crash

2004-11-03 Thread Andrew Raibeck
The chapter I pointed you to the other day includes information on
restoring the TSM server. My recommendation would be to:

1) Read the chapter I mentioned. Section Recovering Your Server Using
Database and Storage Pool Backups covers the restore scenario, but the
entire chapter is worth reading to understand your options for protecting
the server as well.

2) Attempt the restore per the info in the book.

3) If you continue to have trouble, post the *exact* steps you took, as
well as the results that demonstrate the problem you are having. That will
give list members a lot more info to help you with.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/03/2004
09:46:31:

 Thanks again Mark

 But maybe I'm not clear enought ... let me try to put it simple

 I am doing a Disaster recovery plan.  I made a lab with three win2k
 servers(DC, File server/SQL, TSM server) and 1 win2k workstation

 I made documentation and procedure for those disasters:
 - Restore a win2000 server (file server)
 - Restore a win2000 server with SQL 2000
 - Restore a win2000 server that is a domain controller

 The one that I have problem with is - Restore a windows 2000 server with
 TSM SERVER on it (THE TSM SERVER)
 To re-install the OS on it .. no problem ... but How can I restore the
 data if the THE TSM SERVER is dead ... what R the steps ...
 exemple :
 1. install TSM SERVER software
 2. configure drive or library
 3. import node or volumes ..
 4 ... etc ..

 that is what I'm looking for .. the steps after the OS is up to put THE
 TSM SERVER back on-line with THE TSM DB, POLICY DOMAINS, NODES,
SCHEDULES

 hope it's more clear

 thanks

 Luc


Re: Windows TSM server Crash

2004-11-03 Thread Bos, Karel
Hi,

If your ITSM server is running, give it the Prepare command (help prepare). This will 
give you all the info you need to recover your server.

Some basic steps
- Install OS;
- Install ITSM server (level at least same as before);
- Configure / Format DB en Logs. Size is as before or bigger;
- Configure devices;
- Configure (restore volhist)
- RESTORE your ITSM database from last Full and Incremental DB back volumes.

It isn't the complete work, some steps.

Regards,

Karel


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Luc Beaudoin
Sent: woensdag 3 november 2004 17:47
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Windows TSM server Crash


Thanks again Mark

But maybe I'm not clear enought ... let me try to put it simple

I am doing a Disaster recovery plan.  I made a lab with three win2k
servers(DC, File server/SQL, TSM server) and 1 win2k workstation

I made documentation and procedure for those disasters:
- Restore a win2000 server (file server)
- Restore a win2000 server with SQL 2000
- Restore a win2000 server that is a domain controller

The one that I have problem with is - Restore a windows 2000 server with
TSM SERVER on it (THE TSM SERVER)
To re-install the OS on it .. no problem ... but How can I restore the
data if the THE TSM SERVER is dead ... what R the steps ...
exemple :
1. install TSM SERVER software
2. configure drive or library
3. import node or volumes ..
4 ... etc ..

that is what I'm looking for .. the steps after the OS is up to put THE
TSM SERVER back on-line with THE TSM DB, POLICY DOMAINS, NODES, SCHEDULES

hope it's more clear

thanks

Luc


Re: DB2 Backup offline on Winnt

2004-11-03 Thread Sandra
yes you are right !! and not only that .. but also Lotus .. just about to post one 
question on the policy .. i am confusd in policy for retention.

Right now .. i want to just take backups of the backups taken by their application. 
LAter on i will automate using TSM.

Can anyone kindly give me the knowledge as to what folders should i exclude from 
backup if:
1- I have bd2 database backup with me.
2- System state backup with me.
3- I want to restore complete system with DB2, with DB2 database backup ONLY availbale 
with me in a file.
4- What folders/files should i exclude from backup using BA Client, so that i don't 
mess up with open databases.

Kind Regards,
Sandra

Steve Harris wrote:

 Sandra,

 You really have jumped in at the deep end haven't you?  DB2, Oracle, offsite all at 
 once.
 There is no need to shy away from DB2.  Its interface is reasonably straightforward, 
 and there is a redbook to tell you exactly how to set it up.

 http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246247.html?Open

 Regards

 Steve

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/11/2004 5:39:28 
 Dear All,
 Since we don't have any DB2 Administrator therefore I am not going into taking
 online backups of DB2. The application that is using DB2 taking DB2 backups by
 first shutting doen the database and then taking backups using DB2 commands and
 then starting the database. They keep this backedup database with them on tapes
 and then rotation of tapes start.

 Now I am going to automate only this backedup database by taking incremental
 backups only.

 Question:
 For Database A, what folders should I exclude so that I get all the
 configuration of DB2 and then restoring database from those backups.
 Do I have to shutdown DB2 before I take incremental backups of entire WINNT
 machine?

 How about open file support on NT since there is no wizard to configure open
 file support, and not even an option to select for image etc.?

 Please advise and Help !
 Kind Regards,
 Sandra

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TDP for Lotus -- Right Policy

2004-11-03 Thread Sandra
Dear All,
Sorry to popup again with a new thing .. as i went through the documentation and
list archive, and web searches.. i could not find what i was looking for.

My Lotus is on windows 2000 and i am using selective backups currently for
entire database (70GB).

What I am going to do:
1- Taking incremental daily.
2- Doing archivelog daily.
3- Doing inactivate log daily.

4- Doing compaction of all the database on Sunday morning. (Space constraint on
hard disk)
5- Doing incremental backups and archivelog there after till next sunday.

6- I don't think i need to take selective backups monthly or weekly or whatever.

What is my problem that i foresee:

1- If i am going to run compaction every sunday, i end up with so many databses
with different DBIIDs all with their respective transaction logs.
2- If I want to delete backups taken 3 months ago, how do I do that? Since no
version policy applies here after DBIID changes.
3- If Transaction Logs deletion.
 As I was going through the list archive, I fond somewhere saying ...
TDP forLotus tells lotus server that certain archive logs have been backedup, so
lotus can delete or whatever those transaction log file.
?? here is it right, if yes then how does that delete those
transaction log files? ??
 ? if it is not right,  then how do i go about deleting
archivelogs that have been backedup??? (definitely i m not running in circular
logging).



OR OR OR OR

What strategy should I follow

Please enlighten me in this  darknesss
!!

Kind Regards,
Sandra


Re: Open file backup

2004-11-03 Thread Sandra
BEAUTIFULL  It worked grea !!!

Thanks alot 

Best Wishes!
Sandra

Bill Boyer wrote:

 Look up the include.fs statement. snapshotcachelocation parameter in
 particular.

 include.fs c: snapshotcachelocation=d:\whatever
 include.fs d: snapshotcachelocation=c:\whatever

 Goes in the dsm.opt file on that client.

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Sandra
 Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:53 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Open file backup

 great ... but how do i define 2 cache locations in one option file

 Please advise !!!
 Kind Regards,
 Sandra

 TSM_User wrote:

  If you set your resource utilization to 1 and set your cach location for
 C:\ on D: and the one for D:\ on C:\ then you don't need to create an E:\.
 It must be done this way becuase you can't run a snapshot with a cache
 location to a drive that is currently running a snapshot.  With
 resourceutilization at 1 only one snapshot will happen at a time.
 
  Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:just a quick one !!!
  Do i really really reallly have to have a separate partition for snapshot
 to
  backup with open file support.
  I have C: and D:, both will be backedup by a schedule to take incremental
 backup
  of entire system with system objects.
  I have to create another partition E: which will hold snapshot
 location?? or
  is there any workaround
 
  Kind Regards,
  Sandra
 
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Re: DB2 Backup offline on Winnt

2004-11-03 Thread Sandra
also i have started to hear about ESS where i'll have to take flashcopy into 
consideration and Server free backupss  hhh !!!

Will be bugging you guys on this too later .. i wish after 1 week or so !! and not 
earlier !

Sandra !

Sandra wrote:

 yes you are right !! and not only that .. but also Lotus .. just about to post one 
 question on the policy .. i am confusd in policy for retention.

 Right now .. i want to just take backups of the backups taken by their application. 
 LAter on i will automate using TSM.

 Can anyone kindly give me the knowledge as to what folders should i exclude from 
 backup if:
 1- I have bd2 database backup with me.
 2- System state backup with me.
 3- I want to restore complete system with DB2, with DB2 database backup ONLY 
 availbale with me in a file.
 4- What folders/files should i exclude from backup using BA Client, so that i don't 
 mess up with open databases.

 Kind Regards,
 Sandra

 Steve Harris wrote:

  Sandra,
 
  You really have jumped in at the deep end haven't you?  DB2, Oracle, offsite all 
  at once.
  There is no need to shy away from DB2.  Its interface is reasonably 
  straightforward, and there is a redbook to tell you exactly how to set it up.
 
  http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246247.html?Open
 
  Regards
 
  Steve
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/11/2004 5:39:28 
  Dear All,
  Since we don't have any DB2 Administrator therefore I am not going into taking
  online backups of DB2. The application that is using DB2 taking DB2 backups by
  first shutting doen the database and then taking backups using DB2 commands and
  then starting the database. They keep this backedup database with them on tapes
  and then rotation of tapes start.
 
  Now I am going to automate only this backedup database by taking incremental
  backups only.
 
  Question:
  For Database A, what folders should I exclude so that I get all the
  configuration of DB2 and then restoring database from those backups.
  Do I have to shutdown DB2 before I take incremental backups of entire WINNT
  machine?
 
  How about open file support on NT since there is no wizard to configure open
  file support, and not even an option to select for image etc.?
 
  Please advise and Help !
  Kind Regards,
  Sandra
 
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  sole use of the intended recipient(s).  This confidentiality is not waived or 
  lost, if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is 
  transmitted/received in error.
 
  Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this email 
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Re: TDP for Lotus -- Right Policy

2004-11-03 Thread Eduardo Esteban
Some answers to your questions:

1. After you run compact, the incremental will do a full backup of all
your
logged databases. If you run the inactivatelog command afterwards,
   all the transaction logs required to recover those databases will
   be inactivated. Your management policy will determine the fate of
   those logs. If you don't run compact, make sure to run selective, so
  that the inactivatelog command can inactivate logs.

2. Version changes still apply after DBIID changes. The incremental
will mark the previous backup as inactive and your management
policy will determine how many and for how long these will be kept.

3. The Domino server knows which log extents have been backed
 up and it reuses them.  When the Domino server start it creates
 a formatted set of log extent files (.TXN). When the server uses up
all of them, it either creates a new one ,if none of the log extents
have been archived, or reuses the oldest  log extents by renaming
the file to the next log extent number.

Eduardo



ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/03/2004
09:52:09 AM:

 Dear All,
 Sorry to popup again with a new thing .. as i went through the
 documentation and
 list archive, and web searches.. i could not find what i was looking
for.

 My Lotus is on windows 2000 and i am using selective backups currently
for
 entire database (70GB).

 What I am going to do:
 1- Taking incremental daily.
 2- Doing archivelog daily.
 3- Doing inactivate log daily.

 4- Doing compaction of all the database on Sunday morning. (Space
 constraint on
 hard disk)
 5- Doing incremental backups and archivelog there after till next
sunday.

 6- I don't think i need to take selective backups monthly or weekly
 or whatever.

 What is my problem that i foresee:

 1- If i am going to run compaction every sunday, i end up with so
 many databses
 with different DBIIDs all with their respective transaction logs.
 2- If I want to delete backups taken 3 months ago, how do I do that?
Since no
 version policy applies here after DBIID changes.
 3- If Transaction Logs deletion.
  As I was going through the list archive, I fond somewhere saying
...
 TDP forLotus tells lotus server that certain archive logs have been
 backedup, so
 lotus can delete or whatever those transaction log file.
 ?? here is it right, if yes then how does that delete those
 transaction log files? ??
 ? if it is not right,  then how do i go about deleting
 archivelogs that have been backedup??? (definitely i m not running in
circular
 logging).


 OR OR OR OR

 What strategy should I follow

 Please enlighten me in this 
darknesss
 !!

 Kind Regards,
 Sandra


Re: TDP for Lotus -- Right Policy

2004-11-03 Thread Sandra
That means,
If DBIID changes, it will not be treated as a new database?? and
older backups will be there as inactive? Great !!!
That means, if i have to keep compaction running every week, and i am keeping my
backups for say 12 versions then i would set:
Version exists = 12

Then i say that Backup retention (Grace period) is 90 days, that would suggest
that i am keeping my backups for 3 months and then deleting entirely from the
tapes too.

What if I have to take month end backups, 24 versions exists? and I will be
keeping those selctive backups in separate policy domain with separate backup
retention period = 730 days that is for 2 year..

Please correct me if i m wrong 

Kind Regards,
Sandra

Eduardo Esteban wrote:

 Some answers to your questions:

 1. After you run compact, the incremental will do a full backup of all
 your
 logged databases. If you run the inactivatelog command afterwards,
all the transaction logs required to recover those databases will
be inactivated. Your management policy will determine the fate of
those logs. If you don't run compact, make sure to run selective, so
   that the inactivatelog command can inactivate logs.

 2. Version changes still apply after DBIID changes. The incremental
 will mark the previous backup as inactive and your management
 policy will determine how many and for how long these will be kept.

 3. The Domino server knows which log extents have been backed
  up and it reuses them.  When the Domino server start it creates
  a formatted set of log extent files (.TXN). When the server uses up
 all of them, it either creates a new one ,if none of the log extents
 have been archived, or reuses the oldest  log extents by renaming
 the file to the next log extent number.

 Eduardo

 ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/03/2004
 09:52:09 AM:

  Dear All,
  Sorry to popup again with a new thing .. as i went through the
  documentation and
  list archive, and web searches.. i could not find what i was looking
 for.

  My Lotus is on windows 2000 and i am using selective backups currently
 for
  entire database (70GB).

  What I am going to do:
  1- Taking incremental daily.
  2- Doing archivelog daily.
  3- Doing inactivate log daily.

  4- Doing compaction of all the database on Sunday morning. (Space
  constraint on
  hard disk)
  5- Doing incremental backups and archivelog there after till next
 sunday.

  6- I don't think i need to take selective backups monthly or weekly
  or whatever.

  What is my problem that i foresee:

  1- If i am going to run compaction every sunday, i end up with so
  many databses
  with different DBIIDs all with their respective transaction logs.
  2- If I want to delete backups taken 3 months ago, how do I do that?
 Since no
  version policy applies here after DBIID changes.
  3- If Transaction Logs deletion.
   As I was going through the list archive, I fond somewhere saying
 ...
  TDP forLotus tells lotus server that certain archive logs have been
  backedup, so
  lotus can delete or whatever those transaction log file.
  ?? here is it right, if yes then how does that delete those
  transaction log files? ??
  ? if it is not right,  then how do i go about deleting
  archivelogs that have been backedup??? (definitely i m not running in
 circular
  logging).

 
  OR OR OR OR

  What strategy should I follow

  Please enlighten me in this 
 darknesss
  !!

  Kind Regards,
  Sandra


SET DRMRPFEXPIREDAYS Question

2004-11-03 Thread Sung Y Lee
Currently in our TSM environment, we are using DRM feature.  The Recovery
Plan File Expiration Days value is set to 60 Day(s) and we are doing
prepare without any options daily. However, when I goto recovery plan
location, recovery plan files older than 60 days are still there.. Why? and
how can I auto delete old recovery plan files older than 60 days
automatically?

I thought this setting under q drmstatus suppose to take care of this, but
apparently it is not.  That means either I am not doing something right or
misunderstood this feature of drmstatus... maybe both.

Thanks,

Sung Y. Lee

Re: SET DRMRPFEXPIREDAYS Question

2004-11-03 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Are you running EXPIRE INVENTORY on a regular basis?

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/03/2004
12:28:17:

 Currently in our TSM environment, we are using DRM feature.  The
Recovery
 Plan File Expiration Days value is set to 60 Day(s) and we are doing
 prepare without any options daily. However, when I goto recovery plan
 location, recovery plan files older than 60 days are still there.. Why?
and
 how can I auto delete old recovery plan files older than 60 days
 automatically?

 I thought this setting under q drmstatus suppose to take care of this,
but
 apparently it is not.  That means either I am not doing something right
or
 misunderstood this feature of drmstatus... maybe both.

 Thanks,

 Sung Y. Lee


Re: SET DRMRPFEXPIREDAYS Question

2004-11-03 Thread Bill Kelly
I think the behavior you're expecting only happens when the recovery plans
are being stored at another TSM server.

We use a shell script to clean up old recovery plan files.

Regards,
Bill

Bill Kelly
Auburn University OIT
334-844-9917

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Sung Y Lee wrote:

 Currently in our TSM environment, we are using DRM feature.  The Recovery
 Plan File Expiration Days value is set to 60 Day(s) and we are doing
 prepare without any options daily. However, when I goto recovery plan
 location, recovery plan files older than 60 days are still there.. Why? and
 how can I auto delete old recovery plan files older than 60 days
 automatically?

 I thought this setting under q drmstatus suppose to take care of this, but
 apparently it is not.  That means either I am not doing something right or
 misunderstood this feature of drmstatus... maybe both.


Re: TDP for Lotus -- Right Policy

2004-11-03 Thread Eduardo Esteban
For the month end backups, you will have to specify a different TSM node
and a
different management class.

Eduardo


ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/03/2004
11:17:00 AM:

 That means,
 If DBIID changes, it will not be treated as a new
 database?? and
 older backups will be there as inactive? Great !!!
 That means, if i have to keep compaction running every week, and i
 am keeping my
 backups for say 12 versions then i would set:
 Version exists = 12

 Then i say that Backup retention (Grace period) is 90 days, that would
suggest
 that i am keeping my backups for 3 months and then deleting entirely
from the
 tapes too.

 What if I have to take month end backups, 24 versions exists? and I will
be
 keeping those selctive backups in separate policy domain with separate
backup
 retention period = 730 days that is for 2 year..

 Please correct me if i m wrong 

 Kind Regards,
 Sandra

 Eduardo Esteban wrote:

  Some answers to your questions:
 
  1. After you run compact, the incremental will do a full backup of all
  your
  logged databases. If you run the inactivatelog command afterwards,
 all the transaction logs required to recover those databases will
 be inactivated. Your management policy will determine the fate of
 those logs. If you don't run compact, make sure to run selective,
so
that the inactivatelog command can inactivate logs.
 
  2. Version changes still apply after DBIID changes. The incremental
  will mark the previous backup as inactive and your management
  policy will determine how many and for how long these will be
kept.
 
  3. The Domino server knows which log extents have been backed
   up and it reuses them.  When the Domino server start it creates
   a formatted set of log extent files (.TXN). When the server uses
up
  all of them, it either creates a new one ,if none of the log
extents
  have been archived, or reuses the oldest  log extents by renaming
  the file to the next log extent number.
 
  Eduardo
 
  ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/03/2004
  09:52:09 AM:
 
   Dear All,
   Sorry to popup again with a new thing .. as i went through the
   documentation and
   list archive, and web searches.. i could not find what i was looking
  for.
 
   My Lotus is on windows 2000 and i am using selective backups
currently
  for
   entire database (70GB).
 
   What I am going to do:
   1- Taking incremental daily.
   2- Doing archivelog daily.
   3- Doing inactivate log daily.
 
   4- Doing compaction of all the database on Sunday morning. (Space
   constraint on
   hard disk)
   5- Doing incremental backups and archivelog there after till next
  sunday.
 
   6- I don't think i need to take selective backups monthly or weekly
   or whatever.
 
   What is my problem that i foresee:
 
   1- If i am going to run compaction every sunday, i end up with so
   many databses
   with different DBIIDs all with their respective transaction logs.
   2- If I want to delete backups taken 3 months ago, how do I do that?
  Since no
   version policy applies here after DBIID changes.
   3- If Transaction Logs deletion.
    As I was going through the list archive, I fond somewhere
saying
  ...
   TDP forLotus tells lotus server that certain archive logs have been
   backedup, so
   lotus can delete or whatever those transaction log file.
   ?? here is it right, if yes then how does that delete those
   transaction log files? ??
   ? if it is not right,  then how do i go about deleting
   archivelogs that have been backedup??? (definitely i m not running
in
  circular
   logging).
 
  
   OR OR OR OR
 
   What strategy should I follow
 
   Please enlighten me in this 
  darknesss
   !!
 
   Kind Regards,
   Sandra


how to configure Scheduler for daily incremental backup??

2004-11-03 Thread chithirai selvan
Scheduler for
Full backup is working fine. i want to intiate daily
incremental backup.
i'm GUI everytime to initiate daily incremental
backup.

plz advice me on this..


Chithirai selvan.R



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Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page.
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Re: how to configure Scheduler for daily incremental backup??

2004-11-03 Thread Stapleton, Mark
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of chithirai selvan
Scheduler for
Full backup is working fine. i want to intiate daily 
incremental backup.
i'm GUI everytime to initiate daily incremental backup.

Mr. Selvan, it appears from your message that you really don't know much
about TSM, since you are asking about one of its core functionalities.

You really need to spend some time reading the TSM manuals at
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/tividd/td/tdprodlist.html#S and some of
the TSM-centric  Redbooks from www.redbooks.ibm.com. You will get a lot
more out of people's responses when you gain a basic understanding of
how the product works.

May I suggest you first look over the technical overview of TSM at
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpapers/pdfs/redp0044.pdf?

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Berbee Information Networks
Office 262.521.5627  


exchange journaling

2004-11-03 Thread CORP Rick Willmore
Anyone have any information or documentation concerning tsm and exchange journaling.  
Is there any support in place?

R.


Re: exchange journaling

2004-11-03 Thread Stapleton, Mark
What exactly do you mean by exchange journaling?

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Berbee Information Networks
Office 262.521.5627  

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of CORP Rick Willmore
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: exchange journaling

Anyone have any information or documentation concerning tsm 
and exchange journaling.  Is there any support in place?

R.



Re: exchange journaling

2004-11-03 Thread CORP Rick Willmore
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/library/journaling.mspx

I want to find out what information there is concerning TSM's support for Exchange 
Journaling to be in compliance with Sarbanse Oaxley.  I would like to know if there is 
a TSM agent that will backup the Exchange Journaling Archive in such a way that I can 
search the Archive or restore specific emails.  I understand the mechanism for 
restoring email from exchange using the TSM TDP but I wanted to know if there is any 
other support for the Journaling options.  This ability is built into other backup 
clients such as Legato, CommVault etc.

R.

-Original Message-
From: Stapleton, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: exchange journaling


What exactly do you mean by exchange journaling?

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Berbee Information Networks
Office 262.521.5627  

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of CORP Rick Willmore
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: exchange journaling

Anyone have any information or documentation concerning tsm 
and exchange journaling.  Is there any support in place?

R.



Re: exchange journaling

2004-11-03 Thread Stapleton, Mark
sigh

The ADSM-L list archive at http://adsm.org is full of this discussion. 

Microsoft Exchange does not support individual mailboxes or messages; as
a result, since Tivoli supports and uses all third-party application
APIs, TSM doesn't either. The reason other backup applications can
perform brick-level restores is that they write their own APIs (or use
MS APIs like MAPI that were not built for backup and restore processes).

The result? When you apply a service pack or hot patch to Exchange, the
homebrew APIs used by CommVault and Netbackup often break, because there
is no way for them to anticipate what MS will do to Exchange in a given
patch. I have seen this happen time and again; ArcServe used to be very
bad about that. (I can't speak to how BrighStor behaves now.) Further,
if you use an application that performs brick-level restores, and your
Exchange information store or directory get corrupted as a result,
Micrsoft (since they don't support such reports) will tell you Too bad,
so sad. Hope you have a good backup somewhere. (I've seen that happen
as well.)

There is a utility within Exchange called exmerge. Exmerge will take an
individual mailbox and create a separate .pst file out of it; this .pst
file can be backed up as a cold file, and it can be restored as a cold
file which Exchange can copy back into its information store.

TSM has a specialized server (called TSM for Data Retention) which will
help administrators comply with data retention schemes such as Sarbanse
Oaxley. However, when a business case is being created to justify such
retention schemes, it is usually discovered that most business don't
need to strictly comply with all aspects of S-O. Determining such a need
is a job for someone who *knows* what they're doing in this realm and
not just guessing (a phenomenon happening with alarming regularity).

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Berbee Information Networks
Office 262.521.5627  

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of CORP Rick Willmore
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: exchange journaling

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/libr
ary/journaling.mspx

I want to find out what information there is concerning TSM's 
support for Exchange Journaling to be in compliance with 
Sarbanse Oaxley.  I would like to know if there is a TSM agent 
that will backup the Exchange Journaling Archive in such a way 
that I can search the Archive or restore specific emails.  I 
understand the mechanism for restoring email from exchange 
using the TSM TDP but I wanted to know if there is any other 
support for the Journaling options.  This ability is built 
into other backup clients such as Legato, CommVault etc.

R.

-Original Message-
From: Stapleton, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: exchange journaling


What exactly do you mean by exchange journaling?

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Berbee Information Networks
Office 262.521.5627  

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of CORP Rick Willmore
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: exchange journaling

Anyone have any information or documentation concerning tsm and 
exchange journaling.  Is there any support in place?

R.




Re: exchange journaling

2004-11-03 Thread CORP Rick Willmore
I was referring specifically to TSM interacting with the Journaling aspect of 
Exchange.  I appreciate the full response because I never honestly understood why TSM 
didnt write their own API like these other software packages.  I understood all the 
aspects of using exmerge for an exchange recovery when using TSM.  The windows 
administrator here at my company refuses to use TSM on our exchange servers due to the 
fact that he recovers individual mail and mailboxes regularly.  Having to use exmerge 
to recover mail is to much work for him which is why we run backupexec on exchange and 
all other servers run TSM.  Sorry if the question was insulting to you mark I was only 
asked for documentation because I have read the redbook concerning backing up an 
exchange server using TSM and there was no reference to journaling.

R.

-Original Message-
From: Stapleton, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: exchange journaling


sigh

The ADSM-L list archive at http://adsm.org is full of this discussion. 

Microsoft Exchange does not support individual mailboxes or messages; as
a result, since Tivoli supports and uses all third-party application
APIs, TSM doesn't either. The reason other backup applications can
perform brick-level restores is that they write their own APIs (or use
MS APIs like MAPI that were not built for backup and restore processes).

The result? When you apply a service pack or hot patch to Exchange, the
homebrew APIs used by CommVault and Netbackup often break, because there
is no way for them to anticipate what MS will do to Exchange in a given
patch. I have seen this happen time and again; ArcServe used to be very
bad about that. (I can't speak to how BrighStor behaves now.) Further,
if you use an application that performs brick-level restores, and your
Exchange information store or directory get corrupted as a result,
Micrsoft (since they don't support such reports) will tell you Too bad,
so sad. Hope you have a good backup somewhere. (I've seen that happen
as well.)

There is a utility within Exchange called exmerge. Exmerge will take an
individual mailbox and create a separate .pst file out of it; this .pst
file can be backed up as a cold file, and it can be restored as a cold
file which Exchange can copy back into its information store.

TSM has a specialized server (called TSM for Data Retention) which will
help administrators comply with data retention schemes such as Sarbanse
Oaxley. However, when a business case is being created to justify such
retention schemes, it is usually discovered that most business don't
need to strictly comply with all aspects of S-O. Determining such a need
is a job for someone who *knows* what they're doing in this realm and
not just guessing (a phenomenon happening with alarming regularity).

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Berbee Information Networks
Office 262.521.5627  

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of CORP Rick Willmore
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: exchange journaling

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/libr
ary/journaling.mspx

I want to find out what information there is concerning TSM's 
support for Exchange Journaling to be in compliance with 
Sarbanse Oaxley.  I would like to know if there is a TSM agent 
that will backup the Exchange Journaling Archive in such a way 
that I can search the Archive or restore specific emails.  I 
understand the mechanism for restoring email from exchange 
using the TSM TDP but I wanted to know if there is any other 
support for the Journaling options.  This ability is built 
into other backup clients such as Legato, CommVault etc.

R.

-Original Message-
From: Stapleton, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: exchange journaling


What exactly do you mean by exchange journaling?

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Berbee Information Networks
Office 262.521.5627  

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of CORP Rick Willmore
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:07 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: exchange journaling

Anyone have any information or documentation concerning tsm and 
exchange journaling.  Is there any support in place?

R.




HPUX CLient

2004-11-03 Thread Gill, Geoffrey L.
Has anyone heard if and when there will be a client version for HP-UX (11.23
I think) for their Itanium servers?



Can someone at IBM reply to this please?



Thanks,



Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
NT Systems Support Engineer
SAIC
E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  (858) 826-4062
Pager:   (877) 854-0975


Re: how to configure Scheduler for daily incremental backup??

2004-11-03 Thread chithirai selvan
Thanx Mark for the resource , i guess it would help me
in long run.
yes u r rite it's just 3 months.

Chithirai selvan.R
--- Stapleton, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of chithirai selvan
 Scheduler for
 Full backup is working fine. i want to intiate
 daily
 incremental backup.
 i'm GUI everytime to initiate daily incremental
 backup.

 Mr. Selvan, it appears from your message that you
 really don't know much
 about TSM, since you are asking about one of its
 core functionalities.

 You really need to spend some time reading the TSM
 manuals at

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/tividd/td/tdprodlist.html#S
 and some of
 the TSM-centric  Redbooks from www.redbooks.ibm.com.
 You will get a lot
 more out of people's responses when you gain a basic
 understanding of
 how the product works.

 May I suggest you first look over the technical
 overview of TSM at

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpapers/pdfs/redp0044.pdf?

 --
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Re: exchange journaling

2004-11-03 Thread Del Hoobler
Rick,

In regards to Exchange Journaling...
As I understand it, Exchange journaling works by allowing you to
set up a separate mailbox to receive a copy of all email that is sent.
Since that specially-created mailbox is a normal Exchange Server
mailbox, it is eligible for standard backup and restore with
Data Protection for Exchange. In regards to archive and archive
management...
if you use IBM DB2 CommonStore for Exchange Server along with
IBM Content Management for Message Monitoring and Retention
you could archive that mailbox and make it completely searchable.
Here are some URLs to help explain those IBM solutions:
  IBM DB2 CommonStore for Exchange Server
 http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/commonstore/exchange/
  IBM Content Management for Message Monitoring and Retention
 http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/cm/solution_cmmmr.html

A comment about Brick-level backups and restore for Exchange server:
With the size of Exchange Servers growing and growing,
many customers are finding that they need to run brick-level type
backups 24 hours a day, 7 days a week just to keep up with the
growing sizes of mailboxes. Microsoft has helped address this issue
with the addition of the Recovery Storage Group in Exchange 2003.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/library/ue2k3rsg.mspx
It allows you to restore a mailbox database to a special storage
group within the same Admin group (same or alternate server)
and then extract the mailbox of your choice. It does all this without
disturbing the online version of that mailbox database.
Adding the new Recovery Storage Group feature along with deleted
item restore and deleted mailbox restore has helped the reduce and
eliminate the need for performing the brick-level backups.

Thanks,

Del



ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/03/2004
07:30:45 PM:

 I was referring specifically to TSM interacting with the Journaling
 aspect of Exchange.  I appreciate the full response because I never
 honestly understood why TSM didnt write their own API like these
 other software packages.  I understood all the aspects of using
 exmerge for an exchange recovery when using TSM.  The windows
 administrator here at my company refuses to use TSM on our exchange
 servers due to the fact that he recovers individual mail and
 mailboxes regularly.  Having to use exmerge to recover mail is to
 much work for him which is why we run backupexec on exchange and all
 other servers run TSM.  Sorry if the question was insulting to you
 mark I was only asked for documentation because I have read the
 redbook concerning backing up an exchange server using TSM and there
 was no reference to journaling.


Re: exchange journaling

2004-11-03 Thread CORP Rick Willmore
Del,
Thats what was looking for thank you.

R.

-Original Message-
From: Del Hoobler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 5:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: exchange journaling


Rick,

In regards to Exchange Journaling...
As I understand it, Exchange journaling works by allowing you to
set up a separate mailbox to receive a copy of all email that is sent.
Since that specially-created mailbox is a normal Exchange Server
mailbox, it is eligible for standard backup and restore with
Data Protection for Exchange. In regards to archive and archive
management...
if you use IBM DB2 CommonStore for Exchange Server along with
IBM Content Management for Message Monitoring and Retention
you could archive that mailbox and make it completely searchable.
Here are some URLs to help explain those IBM solutions:
  IBM DB2 CommonStore for Exchange Server
 http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/commonstore/exchange/
  IBM Content Management for Message Monitoring and Retention
 http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/cm/solution_cmmmr.html

A comment about Brick-level backups and restore for Exchange server:
With the size of Exchange Servers growing and growing,
many customers are finding that they need to run brick-level type
backups 24 hours a day, 7 days a week just to keep up with the
growing sizes of mailboxes. Microsoft has helped address this issue
with the addition of the Recovery Storage Group in Exchange 2003.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/exchange/2003/library/ue2k3rsg.mspx
It allows you to restore a mailbox database to a special storage
group within the same Admin group (same or alternate server)
and then extract the mailbox of your choice. It does all this without
disturbing the online version of that mailbox database.
Adding the new Recovery Storage Group feature along with deleted
item restore and deleted mailbox restore has helped the reduce and
eliminate the need for performing the brick-level backups.

Thanks,

Del



ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/03/2004
07:30:45 PM:

 I was referring specifically to TSM interacting with the Journaling
 aspect of Exchange.  I appreciate the full response because I never
 honestly understood why TSM didnt write their own API like these
 other software packages.  I understood all the aspects of using
 exmerge for an exchange recovery when using TSM.  The windows
 administrator here at my company refuses to use TSM on our exchange
 servers due to the fact that he recovers individual mail and
 mailboxes regularly.  Having to use exmerge to recover mail is to
 much work for him which is why we run backupexec on exchange and all
 other servers run TSM.  Sorry if the question was insulting to you
 mark I was only asked for documentation because I have read the
 redbook concerning backing up an exchange server using TSM and there
 was no reference to journaling.