Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread Robert Talda
Brion:
  Here at Cornell, we have a TSM client on a Linux system backing up NFS shares 
via NFS mounts and snapdiff differentials - and have been doing so for years.

  First, the gory details:
- For TSM
TSM Client Version 7, Release 1, Level 6.0 (*red faced, thought I had upgraded 
to SP 8.1.2.0 months ago*)
Running on CentOS Linux release 7.5.1804 (kernel 3.10.0-862.2.3.el7.x86_64)
Accessing TSM Server for Linux Version 7, Release 1, Level 7.200
- For NetApp
Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P6
 
  We aren’t seeing your issue, and I suspect I know why.  We are telling the 
TSM client to create its own snapshots - and not use the snapshots being 
created hourly (or daily or weekly even) by the team managing the Netapp - said 
snapshots being equivalent to the ones you are trying to take advantage of in 
your backups.

  That is, the relevant part of the daily backup schedule looks like:
 Schedule Name: DAILY.INCR.NFS.SNAPDIFF
   Description: Daily SnapDiff Incremental
Action: Incremental
 Subaction: 
   Options: -snapdiff -diffsnapshot=create -snapdiffhttps


  During a backup, then, the following type of information is written to the 
dsmsched.log:
09/13/2018 00:38:08 Incremental by snapshot difference of volume 
'/nas-backup/vol/cit-pea1-test'
09/13/2018 00:38:10 ANS2328I Using Snapshot Differential Change Log.
09/13/2018 00:38:10
Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
Management Filer Host/IP Address : ccc-cdot01.cit.cornell.edu
Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P6: Thu Jun 14 
20:21:25 UTC 2018
Storage VM Name  : cit-sfshared05
Storage VM Host/IP Address   : cit-sfshared05-backup.files.cornell.edu
Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
Login User   : tsmbackup
Transport: HTTPS

09/13/2018 00:38:10 Performing a Snapshot Differential Backup of volume 
'/nas-backup/vol/cit-pea1-test'
09/13/2018 00:38:10 Creating Diff Snapshot.
09/13/2018 00:38:10 Using Base Snapshot 
'TSM_SANT5B9759FC1AB6_CIT_PEA1_TEST_VOL' with timestamp 09/11/2018 06:00:28
09/13/2018 00:38:10 Using Diff Snapshot 
'TSM_SANT5B99E9B24F814_CIT_PEA1_TEST_VOL' with timestamp 09/13/2018 04:38:10

Then, on the next backup (48 hours later thanks to a large amount of data to 
backup on 9/13), the Diff Snapshot becomes the base:
09/15/2018 01:29:22 ANS2328I Using Snapshot Differential Change Log.
09/15/2018 01:29:22 
Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
Management Filer Host/IP Address : ccc-cdot01.cit.cornell.edu
Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P6: Thu Jun 14 
20:21:25 UTC 2018
Storage VM Name  : cit-sfshared05
Storage VM Host/IP Address   : cit-sfshared05-backup.files.cornell.edu
Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
Login User   : tsmbackup
Transport: HTTPS

09/15/2018 01:29:22 Performing a Snapshot Differential Backup of volume 
'/nas-backup/vol/cit-pea1-test'
09/15/2018 01:29:22 Creating Diff Snapshot.
09/15/2018 01:29:22 Using Base Snapshot 
'TSM_SANT5B99E9B24F814_CIT_PEA1_TEST_VOL' with timestamp 09/13/2018 04:38:10
09/15/2018 01:29:22 Using Diff Snapshot 
'TSM_SANT5B9C98B1A15B2_CIT_PEA1_TEST_VOL' with timestamp 09/15/2018 05:29:21

I think that consistency is what is missing in your approach - I suspect that 
there are intervening snapshots with information about files that have been 
deleted or changed that are not part of what the TSM client is seeing.

I will add that our NetApp team is very happy with this approach.  The TSM 
client has been very efficient in its management of the snapshots, and in those 
rare cases when it doesn’t, the snapshots are easy to identify and clean up.

FWIW,
Bob


Robert Talda
EZ-Backup Systems Engineer
Cornell University
+1 607-255-8280
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> On Sep 18, 2018, at 8:35 AM, PAC Brion Arnaud  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tommaso,
> 
> The backup command I'm using (dsmc i /Airwarder -snapdiff -snapdiffhttps  
> -diffsnapshotname="daily.*" -diffsnapshot=latest -useexistingbase 
> -optfile=dsm_netapp.opt)  includes the "useexistingbase" statement.
> Based on my understanding of the documentation, this means that the S.P. 
> client will not trigger the creation of a new snapshot on the Netapp device, 
> but instead, make use of a snapshot that had been created previously by some 
> internal mechanism of the Netapp. 
> Therefore, it seems very unlikely that any process still has a grip on any of 
> the files being part of this snapshot ...
> My humble opinion only of course, I'm waiting on others fellow members of 
> this list feedback !
> 
> In addition to this, I would like to avoid the use of any exclude statement 
> during the backup : I doubt that any of my customers would be very happy to 
> hear that I'm not able to restore some of his precious files 

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread Del Hoobler
Hi Arnaud,

>> ... there's still the limitation that this GUI will be usable only once 
logged on the machine hosting the Spectrum Protect client


What do you mean by "that machine"? 

The Backup-Archive client is not in the data path for an NDMP backup or 
restore. The data path is between the NetApp filer and the server's tape 
library (or more generally speaking the storage pools).  The 
Backup-Archive client is reading metadata from the server to present 
information to the end user. 

This means that the user can log in to any machine (Windows/AIX/Solaris 
x86) that has a Backup-Archive client. When the user logs into the 
Spectrum Protect server (at launch of the Backup-Archive client) they are 
providing an admin id that is not tied to a specific machine.


Del





"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 09/18/2018 
07:57:56 AM:

> From: PAC Brion Arnaud 
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Date: 09/18/2018 07:58 AM
> Subject: Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
> machine, making use of  NFS mounts
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> 
> Hi Del,
> 
> Thanks for the information, which I got as well thru other channels 
> (IBM support), but there's still the limitation that this GUI will 
> be usable only once logged on the machine hosting the Spectrum Protect 
client.
> This means that I will be forced to grant some of my colleagues 
> (which were previously doing the restores on their own)  specific 
> logging rights on that machine. Was not the case before ...
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Arnaud
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Del Hoobler
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:57 PM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
> machine, making use of NFS mounts
> 
> Hi Arnaud,
> 
> Not related to SnapDiff ... but just some info on NDMP and B/A Client...
> 
> In Spectrum Protect BA client 8.1.6 that GAs this coming Friday (21 
> September) you will be able to use the native Java GUI to handle NDMP 
> backups/restores.
> 
> 
> Del
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 09/18/2018 
> 06:20:52 AM:
> 
> > From: PAC Brion Arnaud 
> > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > Date: 09/18/2018 06:21 AM
> > Subject: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
> > machine, making use of  NFS mounts
> > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> > 
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > Following to IBM's decision to withdraw the web GUI in the latest 
> > versions of their clients (thus making NDMP hardly usable), as well 
> > as to the renewal of our NAS infrastructure (now using Netapp), I'm 
> > trying to implement netapp snapdiffs in our shop.
> > 
> > So far we succeeded in defining necessary user and roles on the 
> > Netapp, as well as to setup the TSM client in order to interact with
> > our filer, but I'm now facing an issue where some files cannot be 
> > backed up, apparently due to access rights.
> > 
> > Here an extract of our backup log :
> > 
> > IBM Spectrum Protect
> > Command Line Backup-Archive Client Interface
> >   Client Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.0
> >   Client date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28
> > (c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2017. All 
> RightsReserved.
> > 
> > Node Name: NETAPP_CH1_NFS
> > Session established with server XXX: Linux/ppc64le
> >   Server Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.000
> >   Server date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28  Last access: 09/18/2018 
> 10:00:37
> > 
> > 
> > Incremental by snapshot difference of volume '/Airwarder'
> > 
> > Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
> > Management Filer Host/IP Address : 
> > Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P3: Wed Apr
> > 04 13:07:06 UTC 2018
> > Storage VM Name  : xxx
> > Storage VM Host/IP Address   : XX
> > Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
> > Login User   : tsm-backup-user
> > Transport: HTTPS
> > 
> > Performing a Full Incremental Backup of volume '/Airwarder'
> > Using Base Snapshot 'vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-
> > bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500' with timestamp 09/18/2018 
10:25:02
> > ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.
> > 7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/
> > acrimport_ref/ch': access to the object is denied
> > ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.
> > 7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/
> > acrimport_test/ch': access to the object is denied
> > ANS1898I * Processed   500 files *
> > Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/ [Sent]
> > Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/.etc [Sent]
> > 
> > (skipped some lines)
> > 
> > ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> > log4j.conf' failed.
> > 

Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Zoltan,

If I understood well, your storage is Isilon based : in this case do not even 
think of using CONTAINER pools, as performance will be horrible.
Not much time to talk about this, but to make a very long story short, we are 
about to dump/trash /resell the brand new Isilon arrays we bought  8 months 
ago, and to replace them with direct attached storage (Storwize), as we never 
reached sufficient performance levels. Cases have been opened with IBM and EMC 
as well, to no result at all, beside a suspected block size issue which would 
refrain the Isilons to work at expected speed.
If you plan to go for such a hardware configuration, my only advice is :  run 
away, as fast as you can !

Cheers.

Arnaud

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Zoltan 
Forray
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 3:37 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: CONTAINER pool experiences

We are investigating using CONTAINER pools for our offsite replica server
vs the current FILE method which is killing us with the constant dedup,
reclaims, etc.

So, what are the "gotchas' ?   We are still at V7.1.7.400 so I figure we
will have to do without any new features added in the V8 branch. But is it
problematic enough at V7 to avoid it?

Your thoughts?  Experiences?

--
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Spectrum Protect (p.k.a. TSM) Software & Hardware Administrator
Xymon Monitor Administrator
VMware Administrator
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Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM
Oh, and don't forget that your server requires a significant amount of CPU's 
when switching to container pools since all deduplication and compression is 
done inline during your backup window. So when you want to switch in place from 
file to container, make sure your server has enough cores available. Check the 
Spectrum Protect Blueprints for details.
Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
Air France/KLM Storage Engineering


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Zoltan 
Forray
Sent: dinsdag 18 september 2018 15:37
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: CONTAINER pool experiences

We are investigating using CONTAINER pools for our offsite replica server vs 
the current FILE method which is killing us with the constant dedup, reclaims, 
etc.

So, what are the "gotchas' ?   We are still at V7.1.7.400 so I figure we
will have to do without any new features added in the V8 branch. But is it 
problematic enough at V7 to avoid it?

Your thoughts?  Experiences?

--
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Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Zoltan Forray
That space movement issue is our biggest concern - especially since this
server is maxed-out on ISILON storage (no where to grow) and to even think
of converting to container would be an ordeal. No possibility of tape or
expanding disk.



On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:38 AM Solomon Miler 
wrote:

> Well,  if you run out of space,  options nearly always were to move data
> to LTO, now options are to buy an expansion to an existing storage array,
> which cost slightly more than lto.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Zoltan
> Forray
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 10:33 AM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: [External] Re: [ADSM-L] CONTAINER pool experiences
>
> Thanks for the tip.  Should not be an issue for us since this will be on
> the Replication Target server only - for now.
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:14 AM Solomon Miler 
> wrote:
>
> > Dedup containers do not support  'migrate / export / move node '.The
> > only way to get rid of data :  expire / delete node.
> >
> > We are on 8.1.1.0
> >
> >
> > Solomon Miler
> > Senior Data Protection Engineer, VP
> > --
> > Desk: 201.577.313
> > Cell  :  917.287.2332
> > smi...@jri-america.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of
> > Golbin, Mikhail
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:50 AM
> > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > Subject: [External] Re: [ADSM-L] CONTAINER pool experiences
> >
> > Container pools work but you don't have defrag functionality until
> > 8.1.4 - which means it does not release the space it no longer uses.
> > Also you don't get much if any benefit from dedup if you commingle 2
> > or more container pools into one on the replica.
> > For example you have 2 servers doing backups, storing data in
> > container pools and both replicating to one offsite server.
> > Each container pool is about 20Tb and there is a lot of overlap - the
> > storage pool usage on the offsite will be close to 40Tb, rather than
> > 25Tb that it would have been if dedup worked properly
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:37 AM Zoltan Forray  wrote:
> >
> > > We are investigating using CONTAINER pools for our offsite replica
> > > server vs the current FILE method which is killing us with the
> > > constant dedup, reclaims, etc.
> > >
> > > So, what are the "gotchas' ?   We are still at V7.1.7.400 so I figure
> we
> > > will have to do without any new features added in the V8 branch. But
> > > is it problematic enough at V7 to avoid it?
> > >
> > > Your thoughts?  Experiences?
> > >
> > > --
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Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Solomon Miler
Well,  if you run out of space,  options nearly always were to move data to 
LTO, now options are to buy an expansion to an existing storage array, which 
cost slightly more than lto.  

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Zoltan Forray
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 10:33 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: [ADSM-L] CONTAINER pool experiences

Thanks for the tip.  Should not be an issue for us since this will be on the 
Replication Target server only - for now.

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:14 AM Solomon Miler 
wrote:

> Dedup containers do not support  'migrate / export / move node '.The
> only way to get rid of data :  expire / delete node.
>
> We are on 8.1.1.0
>
>
> Solomon Miler
> Senior Data Protection Engineer, VP
> --
> Desk: 201.577.313
> Cell  :  917.287.2332
> smi...@jri-america.com
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of 
> Golbin, Mikhail
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:50 AM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: [External] Re: [ADSM-L] CONTAINER pool experiences
>
> Container pools work but you don't have defrag functionality until 
> 8.1.4 - which means it does not release the space it no longer uses.
> Also you don't get much if any benefit from dedup if you commingle 2 
> or more container pools into one on the replica.
> For example you have 2 servers doing backups, storing data in 
> container pools and both replicating to one offsite server.
> Each container pool is about 20Tb and there is a lot of overlap - the 
> storage pool usage on the offsite will be close to 40Tb, rather than 
> 25Tb that it would have been if dedup worked properly
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:37 AM Zoltan Forray  wrote:
>
> > We are investigating using CONTAINER pools for our offsite replica 
> > server vs the current FILE method which is killing us with the 
> > constant dedup, reclaims, etc.
> >
> > So, what are the "gotchas' ?   We are still at V7.1.7.400 so I figure we
> > will have to do without any new features added in the V8 branch. But 
> > is it problematic enough at V7 to avoid it?
> >
> > Your thoughts?  Experiences?
> >
> > --
> > *Zoltan Forray*
> > Spectrum Protect (p.k.a. TSM) Software & Hardware Administrator 
> > Xymon Monitor Administrator VMware Administrator Virginia 
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Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Zoltan Forray
Thanks for the tip.  Should not be an issue for us since this will be on
the Replication Target server only - and we don't use backupsets.

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:24 AM Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM <
eric-van.l...@klm.com> wrote:

> Don't forget backupsets, you will lose them too with containerpools.
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> Air France/KLM Storage Engineering
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Solomon Miler
> Sent: dinsdag 18 september 2018 16:11
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: CONTAINER pool experiences
>
> Dedup containers do not support  'migrate / export / move node '.The
> only way to get rid of data :  expire / delete node.
>
> We are on 8.1.1.0
>
>
> Solomon Miler
> Senior Data Protection Engineer, VP
> --
> Desk: 201.577.313
> Cell  :  917.287.2332
> smi...@jri-america.com
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Golbin,
> Mikhail
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:50 AM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: [External] Re: [ADSM-L] CONTAINER pool experiences
>
> Container pools work but you don't have defrag functionality until 8.1.4 -
> which means it does not release the space it no longer uses.
> Also you don't get much if any benefit from dedup if you commingle 2 or
> more container pools into one on the replica.
> For example you have 2 servers doing backups, storing data in container
> pools and both replicating to one offsite server.
> Each container pool is about 20Tb and there is a lot of overlap - the
> storage pool usage on the offsite will be close to 40Tb, rather than 25Tb
> that it would have been if dedup worked properly
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:37 AM Zoltan Forray  wrote:
>
> > We are investigating using CONTAINER pools for our offsite replica
> > server vs the current FILE method which is killing us with the
> > constant dedup, reclaims, etc.
> >
> > So, what are the "gotchas' ?   We are still at V7.1.7.400 so I figure we
> > will have to do without any new features added in the V8 branch. But
> > is it problematic enough at V7 to avoid it?
> >
> > Your thoughts?  Experiences?
> >
> > --
> > *Zoltan Forray*
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Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Zoltan Forray
Thanks for the tip.  Should not be an issue for us since this will be on
the Replication Target server only - for now.

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 10:14 AM Solomon Miler 
wrote:

> Dedup containers do not support  'migrate / export / move node '.The
> only way to get rid of data :  expire / delete node.
>
> We are on 8.1.1.0
>
>
> Solomon Miler
> Senior Data Protection Engineer, VP
> --
> Desk: 201.577.313
> Cell  :  917.287.2332
> smi...@jri-america.com
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Golbin,
> Mikhail
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:50 AM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: [External] Re: [ADSM-L] CONTAINER pool experiences
>
> Container pools work but you don't have defrag functionality until 8.1.4 -
> which means it does not release the space it no longer uses.
> Also you don't get much if any benefit from dedup if you commingle 2 or
> more container pools into one on the replica.
> For example you have 2 servers doing backups, storing data in container
> pools and both replicating to one offsite server.
> Each container pool is about 20Tb and there is a lot of overlap - the
> storage pool usage on the offsite will be close to 40Tb, rather than 25Tb
> that it would have been if dedup worked properly
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:37 AM Zoltan Forray  wrote:
>
> > We are investigating using CONTAINER pools for our offsite replica
> > server vs the current FILE method which is killing us with the
> > constant dedup, reclaims, etc.
> >
> > So, what are the "gotchas' ?   We are still at V7.1.7.400 so I figure we
> > will have to do without any new features added in the V8 branch. But
> > is it problematic enough at V7 to avoid it?
> >
> > Your thoughts?  Experiences?
> >
> > --
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> > Monitor Administrator VMware Administrator Virginia Commonwealth
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Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Loon, Eric van (ITOPT3) - KLM
Don't forget backupsets, you will lose them too with containerpools.
Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
Air France/KLM Storage Engineering

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Solomon Miler
Sent: dinsdag 18 september 2018 16:11
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

Dedup containers do not support  'migrate / export / move node '.The only 
way to get rid of data :  expire / delete node.  

We are on 8.1.1.0 


Solomon Miler 
Senior Data Protection Engineer, VP
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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Golbin, 
Mikhail
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:50 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: [ADSM-L] CONTAINER pool experiences

Container pools work but you don't have defrag functionality until 8.1.4 - 
which means it does not release the space it no longer uses.
Also you don't get much if any benefit from dedup if you commingle 2 or more 
container pools into one on the replica.
For example you have 2 servers doing backups, storing data in container pools 
and both replicating to one offsite server.
Each container pool is about 20Tb and there is a lot of overlap - the storage 
pool usage on the offsite will be close to 40Tb, rather than 25Tb that it would 
have been if dedup worked properly

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:37 AM Zoltan Forray  wrote:

> We are investigating using CONTAINER pools for our offsite replica 
> server vs the current FILE method which is killing us with the 
> constant dedup, reclaims, etc.
>
> So, what are the "gotchas' ?   We are still at V7.1.7.400 so I figure we
> will have to do without any new features added in the V8 branch. But 
> is it problematic enough at V7 to avoid it?
>
> Your thoughts?  Experiences?
>
> --
> *Zoltan Forray*
> Spectrum Protect (p.k.a. TSM) Software & Hardware Administrator Xymon 
> Monitor Administrator VMware Administrator Virginia Commonwealth 
> University UCC/Office of Technology Services www.ucc.vcu.edu 
> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807 Don't be a phishing victim - VCU and 
> other reputable organizations will never use email to request that you 
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Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Solomon Miler
Dedup containers do not support  'migrate / export / move node '.The only 
way to get rid of data :  expire / delete node.  

We are on 8.1.1.0 


Solomon Miler 
Senior Data Protection Engineer, VP
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Cell  :  917.287.2332
smi...@jri-america.com





-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager  On Behalf Of Golbin, 
Mikhail
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:50 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: [ADSM-L] CONTAINER pool experiences

Container pools work but you don't have defrag functionality until 8.1.4 - 
which means it does not release the space it no longer uses.
Also you don't get much if any benefit from dedup if you commingle 2 or more 
container pools into one on the replica.
For example you have 2 servers doing backups, storing data in container pools 
and both replicating to one offsite server.
Each container pool is about 20Tb and there is a lot of overlap - the storage 
pool usage on the offsite will be close to 40Tb, rather than 25Tb that it would 
have been if dedup worked properly

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:37 AM Zoltan Forray  wrote:

> We are investigating using CONTAINER pools for our offsite replica 
> server vs the current FILE method which is killing us with the 
> constant dedup, reclaims, etc.
>
> So, what are the "gotchas' ?   We are still at V7.1.7.400 so I figure we
> will have to do without any new features added in the V8 branch. But 
> is it problematic enough at V7 to avoid it?
>
> Your thoughts?  Experiences?
>
> --
> *Zoltan Forray*
> Spectrum Protect (p.k.a. TSM) Software & Hardware Administrator Xymon 
> Monitor Administrator VMware Administrator Virginia Commonwealth 
> University UCC/Office of Technology Services www.ucc.vcu.edu 
> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807 Don't be a phishing victim - VCU and 
> other reputable organizations will never use email to request that you 
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>
>

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Re: CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Golbin, Mikhail
Container pools work but you don't have defrag functionality until 8.1.4 -
which means it does not release the space it no longer uses.
Also you don't get much if any benefit from dedup if you commingle 2 or
more container pools into one on the replica.
For example you have 2 servers doing backups, storing data in container
pools and both replicating to one offsite server.
Each container pool is about 20Tb and there is a lot of overlap - the
storage pool usage on the offsite will be close to 40Tb, rather than 25Tb
that it would have been if dedup worked properly

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:37 AM Zoltan Forray  wrote:

> We are investigating using CONTAINER pools for our offsite replica server
> vs the current FILE method which is killing us with the constant dedup,
> reclaims, etc.
>
> So, what are the "gotchas' ?   We are still at V7.1.7.400 so I figure we
> will have to do without any new features added in the V8 branch. But is it
> problematic enough at V7 to avoid it?
>
> Your thoughts?  Experiences?
>
> --
> *Zoltan Forray*
> Spectrum Protect (p.k.a. TSM) Software & Hardware Administrator
> Xymon Monitor Administrator
> VMware Administrator
> Virginia Commonwealth University
> UCC/Office of Technology Services
> www.ucc.vcu.edu
> zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
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CONTAINER pool experiences

2018-09-18 Thread Zoltan Forray
We are investigating using CONTAINER pools for our offsite replica server
vs the current FILE method which is killing us with the constant dedup,
reclaims, etc.

So, what are the "gotchas' ?   We are still at V7.1.7.400 so I figure we
will have to do without any new features added in the V8 branch. But is it
problematic enough at V7 to avoid it?

Your thoughts?  Experiences?

--
*Zoltan Forray*
Spectrum Protect (p.k.a. TSM) Software & Hardware Administrator
Xymon Monitor Administrator
VMware Administrator
Virginia Commonwealth University
UCC/Office of Technology Services
www.ucc.vcu.edu
zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
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Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi Tommaso,

The backup command I'm using (dsmc i /Airwarder -snapdiff -snapdiffhttps  
-diffsnapshotname="daily.*" -diffsnapshot=latest -useexistingbase 
-optfile=dsm_netapp.opt)  includes the "useexistingbase" statement.
Based on my understanding of the documentation, this means that the S.P. client 
will not trigger the creation of a new snapshot on the Netapp device, but 
instead, make use of a snapshot that had been created previously by some 
internal mechanism of the Netapp. 
Therefore, it seems very unlikely that any process still has a grip on any of 
the files being part of this snapshot ...
My humble opinion only of course, I'm waiting on others fellow members of this 
list feedback !

In addition to this, I would like to avoid the use of any exclude statement 
during the backup : I doubt that any of my customers would be very happy to 
hear that I'm not able to restore some of his precious files because the 
Spectrum Protect client had limitations ... Such issues never aroused with 
NDMP-based backups !

Cheers.

Arnaud 


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Tommaso Bollini
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:29 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: R: [ADSM-L] Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
machine, making use of NFS mounts

Hello Arnaud, maybe it would be: The NetApp snapshot indicates which files are 
modified on the LUN (for which their backup is triggered); but the 
Backup-Archive client cannot "take" them because they are locked by the 
application.
Perhaps you can solve by inserting the appropiate rules in incl.excl file to 
skip them.


-Messaggio originale-
Da: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] Per conto di PAC 
Brion Arnaud
Inviato: martedì 18 settembre 2018 12:21
A: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Oggetto: [ADSM-L] Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, 
making use of NFS mounts

Hi All,

Following to IBM's decision to withdraw the web GUI in the latest versions of 
their clients (thus making NDMP hardly usable), as well as to the renewal of 
our NAS infrastructure (now using Netapp), I'm trying to implement netapp 
snapdiffs in our shop.

So far we succeeded in defining necessary user and roles on the Netapp, as well 
as to setup the TSM client in order to interact with our filer, but I'm now 
facing an issue where some files cannot be backed up, apparently due to access 
rights.

Here an extract of our backup log :

IBM Spectrum Protect
Command Line Backup-Archive Client Interface
  Client Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.0
  Client date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28
(c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2017. All Rights Reserved.

Node Name: NETAPP_CH1_NFS
Session established with server XXX: Linux/ppc64le
  Server Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.000
  Server date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28  Last access: 09/18/2018 10:00:37


Incremental by snapshot difference of volume '/Airwarder'

Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
Management Filer Host/IP Address : 
Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P3: Wed Apr 04 
13:07:06 UTC 2018
Storage VM Name  : xxx
Storage VM Host/IP Address   : XX
Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
Login User   : tsm-backup-user
Transport: HTTPS

Performing a Full Incremental Backup of volume '/Airwarder'
Using Base Snapshot 
'vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500' with 
timestamp 09/18/2018 10:25:02 ANS4007E Error processing 
'/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/acrimport_ref/ch':
 access to the object is denied ANS4007E Error processing 
'/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/acrimport_test/ch':
 access to the object is denied
ANS1898I * Processed   500 files *
Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/ [Sent]
Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/.etc [Sent]

(skipped some lines)

ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/log4j.conf' failed.
ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/log4j.conf': access 
to the object is denied
Normal File-->   309 
/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg  ** Unsuccessful **
ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg' 
failed.
ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg': 
access to the object is denied
Normal File-->   330 
/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak  ** Unsuccessful **
ANS1228E Sending of object 
'/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak' failed.
ANS4007E Error processing 
'/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak': access to the object is 
denied

(skipped some lines)

ANS1802E Incremental backup of '/Airwarder' finished with 90 

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi Del,

Thanks for the information, which I got as well thru other channels (IBM 
support), but there's still the limitation that this GUI will be usable only 
once logged on the machine hosting the Spectrum Protect client.
This means that I will be forced to grant some of my colleagues (which were 
previously doing the restores on their own)  specific logging rights on that 
machine. Was not the case before ...

Cheers.

Arnaud

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Del 
Hoobler
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:57 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, 
making use of NFS mounts

Hi Arnaud,

Not related to SnapDiff ... but just some info on NDMP and B/A Client...

In Spectrum Protect BA client 8.1.6 that GAs this coming Friday (21 
September) you will be able to use the native Java GUI to handle NDMP 
backups/restores.


Del






"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 09/18/2018 
06:20:52 AM:

> From: PAC Brion Arnaud 
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Date: 09/18/2018 06:21 AM
> Subject: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
> machine, making use of  NFS mounts
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Following to IBM's decision to withdraw the web GUI in the latest 
> versions of their clients (thus making NDMP hardly usable), as well 
> as to the renewal of our NAS infrastructure (now using Netapp), I'm 
> trying to implement netapp snapdiffs in our shop.
> 
> So far we succeeded in defining necessary user and roles on the 
> Netapp, as well as to setup the TSM client in order to interact with
> our filer, but I'm now facing an issue where some files cannot be 
> backed up, apparently due to access rights.
> 
> Here an extract of our backup log :
> 
> IBM Spectrum Protect
> Command Line Backup-Archive Client Interface
>   Client Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.0
>   Client date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28
> (c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2017. All 
RightsReserved.
> 
> Node Name: NETAPP_CH1_NFS
> Session established with server XXX: Linux/ppc64le
>   Server Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.000
>   Server date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28  Last access: 09/18/2018 
10:00:37
> 
> 
> Incremental by snapshot difference of volume '/Airwarder'
> 
> Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
> Management Filer Host/IP Address : 
> Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P3: Wed Apr
> 04 13:07:06 UTC 2018
> Storage VM Name  : xxx
> Storage VM Host/IP Address   : XX
> Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
> Login User   : tsm-backup-user
> Transport: HTTPS
> 
> Performing a Full Incremental Backup of volume '/Airwarder'
> Using Base Snapshot 'vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-
> bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500' with timestamp 09/18/2018 10:25:02
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.
> 7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/
> acrimport_ref/ch': access to the object is denied
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.
> 7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/
> acrimport_test/ch': access to the object is denied
> ANS1898I * Processed   500 files *
> Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/ [Sent]
> Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/.etc [Sent]
> 
> (skipped some lines)
> 
> ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> log4j.conf' failed.
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> log4j.conf': access to the object is denied
> Normal File-->   309 /Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg  ** Unsuccessful **
> ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg' failed.
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg': access to the object is denied
> Normal File-->   330 /Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg.bak  ** Unsuccessful **
> ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg.bak' failed.
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg.bak': access to the object is denied
> 
> (skipped some lines)
> 
> ANS1802E Incremental backup of '/Airwarder' finished with 90 failure(s)
> 
> 
> Total number of objects inspected:5,881
> Total number of objects backed up:5,791
> Total number of objects updated:  0
> Total number of objects rebound:  0
> Total number of objects deleted:  0
> Total number of objects expired:  0
> Total number of objects failed:  90
> Total number of objects encrypted:0
> Total number of objects grew: 0
> Total number of retries:

Re: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread Del Hoobler
Hi Arnaud,

Not related to SnapDiff ... but just some info on NDMP and B/A Client...

In Spectrum Protect BA client 8.1.6 that GAs this coming Friday (21 
September) you will be able to use the native Java GUI to handle NDMP 
backups/restores.


Del






"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 09/18/2018 
06:20:52 AM:

> From: PAC Brion Arnaud 
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Date: 09/18/2018 06:21 AM
> Subject: Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux 
> machine, making use of  NFS mounts
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Following to IBM's decision to withdraw the web GUI in the latest 
> versions of their clients (thus making NDMP hardly usable), as well 
> as to the renewal of our NAS infrastructure (now using Netapp), I'm 
> trying to implement netapp snapdiffs in our shop.
> 
> So far we succeeded in defining necessary user and roles on the 
> Netapp, as well as to setup the TSM client in order to interact with
> our filer, but I'm now facing an issue where some files cannot be 
> backed up, apparently due to access rights.
> 
> Here an extract of our backup log :
> 
> IBM Spectrum Protect
> Command Line Backup-Archive Client Interface
>   Client Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.0
>   Client date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28
> (c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2017. All 
RightsReserved.
> 
> Node Name: NETAPP_CH1_NFS
> Session established with server XXX: Linux/ppc64le
>   Server Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.000
>   Server date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28  Last access: 09/18/2018 
10:00:37
> 
> 
> Incremental by snapshot difference of volume '/Airwarder'
> 
> Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
> Management Filer Host/IP Address : 
> Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P3: Wed Apr
> 04 13:07:06 UTC 2018
> Storage VM Name  : xxx
> Storage VM Host/IP Address   : XX
> Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
> Login User   : tsm-backup-user
> Transport: HTTPS
> 
> Performing a Full Incremental Backup of volume '/Airwarder'
> Using Base Snapshot 'vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-
> bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500' with timestamp 09/18/2018 10:25:02
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.
> 7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/
> acrimport_ref/ch': access to the object is denied
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.
> 7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/
> acrimport_test/ch': access to the object is denied
> ANS1898I * Processed   500 files *
> Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/ [Sent]
> Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/.etc [Sent]
> 
> (skipped some lines)
> 
> ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> log4j.conf' failed.
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> log4j.conf': access to the object is denied
> Normal File-->   309 /Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg  ** Unsuccessful **
> ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg' failed.
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg': access to the object is denied
> Normal File-->   330 /Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg.bak  ** Unsuccessful **
> ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg.bak' failed.
> ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/
> sapConnector.cfg.bak': access to the object is denied
> 
> (skipped some lines)
> 
> ANS1802E Incremental backup of '/Airwarder' finished with 90 failure(s)
> 
> 
> Total number of objects inspected:5,881
> Total number of objects backed up:5,791
> Total number of objects updated:  0
> Total number of objects rebound:  0
> Total number of objects deleted:  0
> Total number of objects expired:  0
> Total number of objects failed:  90
> Total number of objects encrypted:0
> Total number of objects grew: 0
> Total number of retries: 15
> Total number of bytes inspected:   1.27 GB
> Total number of bytes transferred: 1.37 GB
> Data transfer time:   18.61 sec
> Network data transfer rate:   77,367.92 KB/sec
> Aggregate data transfer rate: 36,807.03 KB/sec
> Objects compressed by:0%
> Total data reduction ratio:0.00%
> Elapsed processing time:   00:00:39
> 
> 
> Here, a closer look at some of the files making problems  :
> 
> root@xx:~ # ls -al 
/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak
> -rw-r- 1 root root 330 May  6  2009 /Airwarder/acrimport_ref/
> config/sapConnector.cfg.bak
> 
> 
> root@xx:~ # ls -la 

R: [ADSM-L] Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread Tommaso Bollini
Hello Arnaud, maybe it would be: The NetApp snapshot indicates which files are 
modified on the LUN (for which their backup is triggered); but the 
Backup-Archive client cannot "take" them because they are locked by the 
application.
Perhaps you can solve by inserting the appropiate rules in incl.excl file to 
skip them.


-Messaggio originale-
Da: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] Per conto di PAC 
Brion Arnaud
Inviato: martedì 18 settembre 2018 12:21
A: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Oggetto: [ADSM-L] Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, 
making use of NFS mounts

Hi All,

Following to IBM's decision to withdraw the web GUI in the latest versions of 
their clients (thus making NDMP hardly usable), as well as to the renewal of 
our NAS infrastructure (now using Netapp), I'm trying to implement netapp 
snapdiffs in our shop.

So far we succeeded in defining necessary user and roles on the Netapp, as well 
as to setup the TSM client in order to interact with our filer, but I'm now 
facing an issue where some files cannot be backed up, apparently due to access 
rights.

Here an extract of our backup log :

IBM Spectrum Protect
Command Line Backup-Archive Client Interface
  Client Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.0
  Client date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28
(c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2017. All Rights Reserved.

Node Name: NETAPP_CH1_NFS
Session established with server XXX: Linux/ppc64le
  Server Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.000
  Server date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28  Last access: 09/18/2018 10:00:37


Incremental by snapshot difference of volume '/Airwarder'

Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
Management Filer Host/IP Address : 
Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P3: Wed Apr 04 
13:07:06 UTC 2018
Storage VM Name  : xxx
Storage VM Host/IP Address   : XX
Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
Login User   : tsm-backup-user
Transport: HTTPS

Performing a Full Incremental Backup of volume '/Airwarder'
Using Base Snapshot 
'vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500' with 
timestamp 09/18/2018 10:25:02 ANS4007E Error processing 
'/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/acrimport_ref/ch':
 access to the object is denied ANS4007E Error processing 
'/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/acrimport_test/ch':
 access to the object is denied
ANS1898I * Processed   500 files *
Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/ [Sent]
Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/.etc [Sent]

(skipped some lines)

ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/log4j.conf' failed.
ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/log4j.conf': access 
to the object is denied
Normal File-->   309 
/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg  ** Unsuccessful **
ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg' 
failed.
ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg': 
access to the object is denied
Normal File-->   330 
/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak  ** Unsuccessful **
ANS1228E Sending of object 
'/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak' failed.
ANS4007E Error processing 
'/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak': access to the object is 
denied

(skipped some lines)

ANS1802E Incremental backup of '/Airwarder' finished with 90 failure(s)


Total number of objects inspected:5,881
Total number of objects backed up:5,791
Total number of objects updated:  0
Total number of objects rebound:  0
Total number of objects deleted:  0
Total number of objects expired:  0
Total number of objects failed:  90
Total number of objects encrypted:0
Total number of objects grew: 0
Total number of retries: 15
Total number of bytes inspected:   1.27 GB
Total number of bytes transferred: 1.37 GB
Data transfer time:   18.61 sec
Network data transfer rate:   77,367.92 KB/sec
Aggregate data transfer rate: 36,807.03 KB/sec
Objects compressed by:0%
Total data reduction ratio:0.00%
Elapsed processing time:   00:00:39


Here, a closer look at some of the files making problems  :

root@xx:~ # ls -al /Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak
-rw-r- 1 root root 330 May  6  2009 
/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak


root@xx:~ # ls -la 
/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_121000/acrimport_ref/ch
ls: cannot open directory 

Netapp snapdiff issues having TSM client on a Linux machine, making use of NFS mounts

2018-09-18 Thread PAC Brion Arnaud
Hi All,

Following to IBM's decision to withdraw the web GUI in the latest versions of 
their clients (thus making NDMP hardly usable), as well as to the renewal of 
our NAS infrastructure (now using Netapp), I'm trying to implement netapp 
snapdiffs in our shop.

So far we succeeded in defining necessary user and roles on the Netapp, as well 
as to setup the TSM client in order to interact with our filer, but I'm now 
facing an issue where some files cannot be backed up, apparently due to access 
rights.

Here an extract of our backup log :

IBM Spectrum Protect
Command Line Backup-Archive Client Interface
  Client Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.0
  Client date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28
(c) Copyright by IBM Corporation and other(s) 1990, 2017. All Rights Reserved.

Node Name: NETAPP_CH1_NFS
Session established with server XXX: Linux/ppc64le
  Server Version 8, Release 1, Level 4.000
  Server date/time: 09/18/2018 10:26:28  Last access: 09/18/2018 10:00:37


Incremental by snapshot difference of volume '/Airwarder'

Connected to NetApp Storage Virtual Machine
Management Filer Host/IP Address : 
Filer Version Information: NetApp Release 9.3P3: Wed Apr 04 
13:07:06 UTC 2018
Storage VM Name  : xxx
Storage VM Host/IP Address   : XX
Storage VM Volume Style  : Flex
Login User   : tsm-backup-user
Transport: HTTPS

Performing a Full Incremental Backup of volume '/Airwarder'
Using Base Snapshot 
'vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500' with 
timestamp 09/18/2018 10:25:02
ANS4007E Error processing 
'/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/acrimport_ref/ch':
 access to the object is denied
ANS4007E Error processing 
'/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_102500/acrimport_test/ch':
 access to the object is denied
ANS1898I * Processed   500 files *
Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/ [Sent]
Directory-->   4,096 /Airwarder/.etc [Sent]

(skipped some lines)

ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/log4j.conf' failed.
ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/log4j.conf': access 
to the object is denied
Normal File-->   309 
/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg  ** Unsuccessful **
ANS1228E Sending of object '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg' 
failed.
ANS4007E Error processing '/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg': 
access to the object is denied
Normal File-->   330 
/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak  ** Unsuccessful **
ANS1228E Sending of object 
'/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak' failed.
ANS4007E Error processing 
'/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak': access to the object is 
denied

(skipped some lines)

ANS1802E Incremental backup of '/Airwarder' finished with 90 failure(s)


Total number of objects inspected:5,881
Total number of objects backed up:5,791
Total number of objects updated:  0
Total number of objects rebound:  0
Total number of objects deleted:  0
Total number of objects expired:  0
Total number of objects failed:  90
Total number of objects encrypted:0
Total number of objects grew: 0
Total number of retries: 15
Total number of bytes inspected:   1.27 GB
Total number of bytes transferred: 1.37 GB
Data transfer time:   18.61 sec
Network data transfer rate:   77,367.92 KB/sec
Aggregate data transfer rate: 36,807.03 KB/sec
Objects compressed by:0%
Total data reduction ratio:0.00%
Elapsed processing time:   00:00:39


Here, a closer look at some of the files making problems  :

root@xx:~ # ls -al /Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak
-rw-r- 1 root root 330 May  6  2009 
/Airwarder/acrimport_ref/config/sapConnector.cfg.bak


root@xx:~ # ls -la 
/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_121000/acrimport_ref/ch
ls: cannot open directory 
/Airwarder/.snapshot/vserverdr.0.7b5a59c4-656c-11e8-bb80-00a098d614c2.2018-09-18_121000/acrimport_ref/ch:
 Permission denied

And who I am:

root@xx:~ # id
uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)

Any idea on how to solve such issues ?

Cheers.

Arnaud


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