Re: TSM & client machine renames

[John Underdown]

i used dsmadmc has a backend for a CGI script. used perl modules DBD::TSM and 
DBI, but you can call dsmadmc directly. Access was controlled thru clear text 
file that was no way related to TSM access and deleted after we were done. 
Timing was key but well documented for users to follow. Hope this helps. 

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use CGI qw(:standard);
use CGI::Carp qw(warningsToBrowser fatalsToBrowser);
use strict;
use DBI;

print header;
print start_html("Rename TSM Node");
print end_html;

my $nodename = uc(param('nodename'));
my $rename = uc(param('rename'));
my $userid = param('userid');
my $passwd = param('passwd');

open READ, ") {
  $_ =~ /(\w+)\s(\w+)/;
  if($1 eq $userid && $2 eq $passwd){
  $autherr = 0;
   }
}

close READ;

my ($sec,$min,$hour,$day,$mon,$year,$wday,$yday,$isdst)=localtime;
$year+=1900;
$mon+=1;
my $str = "$mon/$day/$year $hour:$min:$sec $userid";

open OUT, ">/rename/logs/$mon$day$hour$min$sec-$userid.log";

if ($autherr){
   print "Wrong User ID and/or Password!\n";
   print OUT "$str Wrong User ID and/or Password!\n";
   exit;
}

my ($dbh1,$dbh2,$sth1,$sth2,$fs1,$fs2);

print "Renaming $nodename to $rename\n";
print OUT "$str Renaming $nodename to $rename\n";

$dbh1=DBI->connect("DBI:TSM:tsm-1","tsmadmin","tsmpw",
 {RaiseError => 0,
 PrintError => 0}) or die $DBI::errstr;

$dbh2=DBI->connect("DBI:TSM:tsm-1","tsmadmin","tsmpw",
 {RaiseError => 0,
 PrintError => 0}) or die $DBI::errstr;

$sth1=$dbh1->prepare ("q node $nodename")
   or die $dbh1->errstr;

if (!$sth1->execute()){
   print "Node $nodename Not Found!";
   print OUT "$str Node $nodename Not Found!\n";
   exit;
}

$sth1=$dbh1->prepare ("rename node $nodename $rename")
   or die $dbh1->errstr;

if ($sth1->execute()){
   print "Renamed node $nodename to $rename\n";
   print OUT "$str Renamed node $nodename to $rename\n";
}else{
   print "Failed to rename node $nodename to $rename\n";
   print OUT "$str Failed to rename node $nodename to $rename\n";
   exit;
}

$sth1=$dbh1->prepare ("update node $rename synovus1")
   or die $dbh1->errstr;

if ($sth1->execute()){
   print "Changed node $rename password to synovus1\n";
   print OUT "$str Changed node $rename password to synovus1\n";
}else{
   print "Failed to Changed node $rename password\n";
   print OUT "$str Failed to Changed node $rename password\n";
}

$sth1=$dbh1->prepare ("select FILESPACE_NAME from filespaces where 
node_name='$rename'")
   or die $dbh1->errstr;

$nodename = lc($nodename);
$rename = lc($rename);

if ($sth1->execute()){
   while (($fs2) = $sth1->fetchrow_array) {
  $fs1 = $fs2;
  if ($fs2 =~ s/$nodename/$rename/){
 $sth2=$dbh2->prepare ("rename filespace $rename $fs1 $fs2 namet=uni")
   or die $dbh2->errstr;
 if ($sth2->execute()){
print "Renamed filespace  $rename $fs1 $fs2\n";
print OUT "$str Renamed filespace  $rename $fs1 $fs2\n";
 }else{
print "Failed to rename filespace  $rename $fs1 $fs2\n";
print OUT "$str Failed to renamed filespace  $rename $fs1 $fs2\n";
 }
  }
   }
}

$dbh1->disconnect;
$dbh2->disconnect;
close OUT;

From:   Paul Zarnowski 
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Date:   06/02/2011 10:59 AM
Subject:[ADSM-L] TSM & client machine renames
Sent by:"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 

Hello all,

We are contemplating a massive Active Domain reorganization which would
involve renaming hundreds of Windows machines that we backup into TSM.  We
forsee a few problems with this, and I am looking to see if any other TSM
sites have faced a similar problem and what they did to address it.

The problems:
1. Renaming a Windows system will result in TSM making a fresh backups for
the volumes on that system (because the system name is part of the
filespace name).  Renaming the filespace on the TSM server will address
this, but timing is a problem.  If you rename the filespace a day early or
a day late, you will still end up with extra backups.

2. TSM likes to replace DOMAIN C: statements with DOMAIN \\systemname\C$.
If the systemname changes, then the TSM backup will fail, because it won't
be able to find the old systemname (unless and until the DOMAIN statement
is updated).  Again, with so many machines, updating all those DSM.OPT
files will be problematic.

3. If we have a large number of unintended extra backups, TSM server
resources (database size and stgpool capacity) will be stretched.


Having a tool that would allow our customers to rename their TSM
filespaces on-demand would be a big help.  As we do not give out policy
domain privileges, we cannot use dsmadmc to do this.  I am looking for
other solutions that any of you might have developed, or even just thought
about.  If the TSM BA client allowed a user to rename their filespace,
that would be a great solution.  But it's not there.

Thanks for any help (or condolences).

..Paul


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Re: Raid 1 vs Raid 5

[John Underdown]

i use raid 5 for all my storage pools. i stripe the arrays across as many 
spindles as possible, for our hardware that is 15 1TB drives with the 16th used 
as a hot spare. i use a 256kb stripe size and align the OS partition at a 512 
sector offset. rebuild time is about 6 hours for the 15 drive 14TB array, at 
which time there's a slight slow down in I/O. i have 150TB setup this way.

john
 
>>> Skylar Thompson  8/9/2010 11:32 AM >>> 
Do you have tape in your primary storage hierarchy? If so, remember that
even if part of your disk pool fails, you only lose access to the data
that are on the failed volumes. You can then regenerate that data by
either running another backup from the nodes that had backed up to that
volume (if the backup to the copy pool hasn't happened yet) or from the
copy pool. New backups can continue against the disk pool volumes that
are still available, or can be cut through directly to tape if the
entire pool is unavailable.

On 08/09/10 08:23, Dana Holland wrote:
> Does anyone have opinions about setting up storage pools as Raid 1 as
> opposed to Raid 5? We have a very limited amount of disk space at the
> moment and don't know when we'll get approval to buy more. At the time
> we first started planning to implement TSM, we purchased what we thought
> would be plenty of storage. But, that was 4 years ago - and our usage
> has grown. Now, if I choose Raid 1, I barely have enough to create a
> primary and copy storage pool for one of our servers. And that isn't
> allowing for any growth at all. And I'm not sure how much additional
> space incremental backups would take. I know Raid 5 would give me more
> storage space, but I've also read that it's harder to recover from if
> there's a disk failure (read this on a TSM site somewhere). So, I'm
> wondering what some of you are using?
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Re: tsm server port listening?

[John Underdown]

try;

netstat -ln

Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address State
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:15100.0.0.0:*   LISTEN
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:15800.0.0.0:*   LISTEN
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:15000.0.0.0:*   LISTEN

 
>>> Grigori Solonovitch  3/23/2010 4:28 AM >>> 
Please check alias for 1500 in /etc/services and try to find it in "netstat 
-a|grep LIST".

Grigori G. Solonovitch

Senior Technical Architect

Information Technology  Bank of Kuwait and Middle East  http://www.bkme.com

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Hi,
Why "netstat -a" does not show in server (AIX) that TSM is listening on port
1500? It is actually up and running and clients are sending backup to it.

Thanks.

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Re: Disk full error while restoring but there is enough space

[John Underdown]

this is only a guess, but i've seen this error when running a restore with an 
user account that didn't have write permissions to the volume.

>>> admbackup  06/28/09 2:30 AM >>>
Hi.

I am having a problem making a restore in an AIX server.

I performed a full backup last week of a fs. Then the data in that fs were 
deleted

This weekend I tried to perform a restore using the data of that full backup in 
the same fs, in the same server but I got an error message that the disk is 
full.  This is very weird because it is only 18GB and there is more than enough 
free space (23GB)

I have validated that it is not a disk problem or an storage problem.

Any idea of what is happening?

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TSM Client Version 5 Release 4 Fix Pack 3 (5.4.3)?

[John Underdown]

i found TSM Client Version 5 Release 4 Fix Pack 3 (5.4.3) was released 
yesterday 6/26/09. 

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/client/v5r4/Windows/x32/v543/
  

information security wants me to update our current client from 5.4.2.4 to 
5.4.2.7 to address security vulnerabilities. i don't see any announcements for 
5.4.3 on IBM's website. what do you guys and gals think about going ahead and 
using this new maintenance release rather than upgrading to  5.4.2.7.

Many Thanks,

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Re: Another question about backing up a filesystem with a large number of files.

[John Underdown]

i found memoryefficientbackup needs to be set to diskcachem.

>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:01 PM, in message <49833270.6040...@cmich.edu>, 
>>> David Jelinek  wrote:

I have a filesystem on a windows server that has a very large
number of files in it.
I have been using journaling with some success until now. The
problem is that once journaling is turned off for whatever
reason, a full incremental backup is required before journaling
can be used again. Even with memoryefficientbackup set to yes
TSM runs out of memory if it is other than an initial backup.

I tried dividing up the filesystem with commands like:

dsmc incr "e:\blackboard\courses\a*" -subdir=yes
dsmc incr "e"\blackboard\courses\b*" -subdir=yes

but the backup seems to take forever for a single one of these
commands. I have dsm.opt set to exclude all domains.

My question is, if I delete or rename the old filespace and then
try these backups. I know that the first time they will simply
backup everything. Will they set things up on the TSM server so
that subsequent backups will work against the divided filespaces
and thus run a little quicker?

TSM server is 5.3.1.3 on AIX
TSM client is 5.3.5.6
Windows is Server 2003

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Unexpected behavior - Win2k3, TSM 5.4, NTFS permissions

[John Underdown]

Steve, 

what size files do you backup using subfiles? we have disk only storage. 

Thanks, 

john

>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:14 AM, in message 
>>> <24321581.1232550860564.javamail.r...@postx1.bcbst.com>, "Schaub, Steve" 
>>>  wrote:

We've used subfiles successfully for large files, but only because we
were able to put large amount of fileclass disk behind our primary
diskpools.  If you do that, collocation and how many subfiles pieces
there are becomes a moot point.
Don't go there if you're using tape as the back end.

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Systems Engineer, Windows
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I haven't used the following two features in combination yet, so a
question:

If I were backing up using subfile and collocation, would this alleviate
the problem of the subfile backups being spread over many volumes?

Marginally. You'd still have to wander an individual tape (or tapes) to
pick up all the deltas that the subfile process created. This will
greatly delay restores, particularly large restores of many small files.
Also, remember the file size restrictions enforced by subfile work.

As I mentioned earlier, adaptive subfile backup technology was
originally designed to accommodate small-ish backups coming through
narrow WAN pipes. In the meantime, collocation will increase tape volume
usage, overall tape traffic, and daily migration and reclamation
processes.

As is always true in life, you end up having to rob Peter to pay Paul.

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SQLsafe and TSM?

[John Underdown]

Our DBA's are looking into using Idera's SQLsafe with TSM and i was wondering 
if anyone has experience with this product used in a TSM environment. right now 
the DBA's aren't using TDP for SQL but are backing up to disk and then calling 
dsmc to backup the files to TSM. 

any comments will be greatly appreciated. 

Many Thanks,

john

OuOooojjakjsdhkjahsdfkjsakjdany comments will be greatly appericated. any 
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ANR1291E on AuditDB?

[John Underdown]

Hey Everyone,

i'm in need of some help again. once a month i restore and run a auditdb of my 
production db on my test TSM server. this time i got a bunch of ANR1291E's, see 
below. is there any way to correct this on the production server without 
bringing it down or are these errors even a problem? BTW, a search on 
www.ibm.com, www.adsm.org, or www.google.com for ANR1291E didn't get a single 
hit!
 
ANR1291E AUDITDB: Incorrect information detected in a schedule event record for 
node (nodeId=557), domain STANDARD, schedule 8PM. Specify FIX=YES to delete the 
record.

Here's the reply from Tivoli Support on this issue:

"I spoke with my lead about this issue.  The output is indicating that the 
audit found an issue, and corrective action is to run the audit again with the 
fix=yes option.  Based on the error, there has been some change to the client 
schedules for the nodeID referenced. To correct the issues on the production 
server, schedule time to run the audit with fix=yes."

i checked the nodeid's and they no longer exists on the TSM server. running 
Audit db on the production server would take over 4 DAYS! are these errors a 
problem? do they need to be fixed? is there any way to run an auditdb on just 
the central scheduler definitions? 

Please Advice. 

Many Thanks, 

john


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Re: New TSM Layout

[John Underdown]

for STG pools, i create the raid group large enough for 2 LUNs (4TB), and 
assign each LUN (2TB) to a different STG pool. then migrate or reclaim the STG 
pools separately.  extra effort, but well worth the extra performance. rule of 
thumb is when the number of spindles doubles performance will increase ~50%. 

BTW we only use disk and file STG pools, no tape. reclaim thresholds are well 
below 30%. all volumes are predefined at 64GB, which is the max on a Linux XFS 
partition, but i won't want any larger. 

john

>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:05 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Shawn 
>>> Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I went through a number of different configurations on our Clariion.  The
best ended up being to take only 1 LUN from each raid group.  As many raid
groups as possible.
My main TSM server has 19 X 200gB raw volumes for its diskpool.  Each
volume is from a different raidgroup.

Just try not to use more than one lun from the same raid group.  That's
when I ran into performance issues.

Regards,
Shawn

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We are in the process of designing our new TSM server. As part of this
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Currently we have 661 Gig in our disk pool and we are upping that to 900
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TDP for SQL Excludes?

[John Underdown]

Hi Everyone,

I'm trying to come up with an TDP for SQL exclude for any database name 
beginning with "nobackup" on sever CO-AFSFRAUD1. I'm putting the excludes in 
the client options "tlogs" on the TSM server and they're the first to be 
evaluated. Here's what I've tried so far:

q clopt tlogs

...
INCLEXCL 100,090 No exclude CO-AFSFRAUD1\...\nobackup*\...\*
INCLEXCL 100,095 No exclude CO-AFSFRAUD1\...\meta\...\nobackup*\...\*
INCLEXCL 100,096 No exclude CO-AFSFRAUD1\meta\...\nobackup*\...\*

None of these appear to be working. i was wondering if any of you might give me 
some guidance on this.

Many Thanks,

john

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Re: Fw: Manual backup vs. GUI after resolving ANS1063E

[John Underdown]

Chip, 

every time i've had this issue it turned out to be different permissions 
between the user accounts running the backups. 

John

>>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at  4:18 PM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bell, 
>>> Charles (Chip)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

No, I always verified that missing drive was picked up. I'm confused...

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Subject: [ADSM-L] Fw: Manual backup vs. GUI after resolving ANS1063E

Is it possible that when manual backups were taken in interim , it always
missed that drive similar to TSM schedule unable to backup.

If this is not the case,

the file is eligible for backup if any of the following changed.  See if
any of the following changed.
Last modified
File size
File owner
File permission


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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"  wrote on 01/16/2008
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> In the process of resolving ANS1063E for a couple of clients, I noted
> something that seemed strange. There was one machine in particular, that
I've
> been running manually, and it would back up a few 100 MB at a time. It
was
> finally able to run a scheduled backup of the drive that it had been
unable
> to do, and it has so far backed up 10+ GB. This may be an elementary TSM
> question, but why is there a discrepancy between the manual incremental
> backups I had been doing in the interim, and the scheduled backup that is
> running now?
>
>
>
> God bless you!!!
>
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> Baptist Health System
> Birmingham, AL
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Re: Exclude syntax

[John Underdown]

Chip,

i believe excluding the directories will delete them from TSM. is that the 
intent or do you want to use journaling instead? 

john 
>>> "Bell, Charles (Chip)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/09/07 12:29 PM >>> 
I know that the below syntax is incorrect, because I previewed it, but I
can't seem to figure it out when I get moments to work on it. I need the
below range of subdirectories to be excluded from backup, and apparently it
will be changing from day to day. The FileboundImages directory has nearly 9
million files already, and I do not want TSM re-scanning the directories that
have already been backed up. If you show me something that will make me slap
my own forehead, that's OK too.  :-)

 

Thoughts?

 

Exclude.Backup "e:\FileboundImages\0[000-8947000]\*"

 

God bless you!!! 

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Baptist Health System 
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Re: lingering copypool copies?

[John Underdown]

what i've done in the pass is to make sure there no processing going on in the 
copy pool, flag all filling volumes as read only, and then do a move data for 
the node on the copy pool. the data will be moved to new volumes where it can 
be deleted. u can create a collocgroup to do mutliple nodes at the same time.

update vol * acc=reado wherestg=copypool wherest=fil
move nodedata  node_name from=copypool
or 
move nodedate COLLOCGroup = group_name from=copypool
 
>>> Thomas Denier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/16/07 1:59 PM >>> 
- Dave Mussulman wrote: -

>Is there a best practice for moving nodes between domains, when
>the domains have different storage pools, copy pools, management
>classes, etc.?  I noticed when I changed nodes to the new domain,
>the new management classes and rebinding occurred (which is fine,)
>but any data stored in the previous storage groups still remains,
>along with its copypool copies. I didn't really expect pre- existing
>data to magically migrate, and since I was taking the old domain's
>primary disk storage pool out of service anyway, I did a 'move data'
>for those old disk volumes to a different tape pool, and then
>removed the disk volumes.
>
>I expected that the next expire inventory would remove the copies
>for the files no longer in the stgpool they were copied from (or
>even that the stgpool no longer existed,) but that didn't happen.
>(I guess the copies are tied to the file without any regard for
>the stgpool they are/were in.) The new domain doesn't have any
>copypools configured, and I'd like to free those copy tapes up.
>How do I do that?

If you want to get rid of all the files in the old copy pool, you
can use 'delete volume' commands with 'discard=yes' to delete the
volumes.

If there is still some data you want to keep in the old copy pool,
you can use the 'delete volume' command and then execute 'backup
stgpool' commands to recopy the data you want to keep.

You mention that the new domain will not have copy pool coverage.
Most TSM administrators consider this a bad idea (unless there is
some kind of protection against media failure built into the tape
infrastructure).

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Re: TSM and Linux

[John Underdown]

Patrick's right that the perfromance problem is probably due to  the
swappiness setting. the 2.4 kernel didn't have this option but a
swappiness value of 0 gives the 2.6 kernel something close to what 2.4
is running.  the default is 60 and no matter how much ram you have TSM
will be swapped out to disk and run like a dog. i saw this with vmstat,
once i set swappiness to 0, TSM ran like a scalded dog.

but again you need to have plenty of ram and TSM needs to be  the only
major application running on the server. basically changing this option
tunes the kernel performance between an application or a print/file
server.

john

Subject:  Re: TSM and Linux
From:  Patrick Boutilier 
To:  ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date:  Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:28:07 -0400

Leigh Reed wrote:

>Patrick
>
>You don't mention your version of TSM server or h/w platform and this
is a fairly old APAR but I thought I'd mention it.


TSM server 5.3.4.x on Intel (Dell 2950) hardware.

>APAR IC47731  deals with poor performance on Linux kernel 2.6 on
zSeries.


Did see that APAR a while ago. The vm.swappiness setting mentioned
earlier might be something to try if I ever feel the need to try and
upgrade again. :-)



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Re: TSM and Linux

[John Underdown]

Mark,

if you decide on Linux, make sure you have plenty of RAM and set
vm.swappiness=0, else TSM will be swapped out to disk and performance
will really suffer. BTW, TSM on the IBM OpenPower really rocks. the
biggest issue with Linux is support, mainly the lack of it.

our environment is;

One OpenPower 9124-720, 4 processors and 6 GB of RAM.
SLES 9 SP3
Single install of TSM server v5.3.3.
100 GB Database presently at 80%.
60 TB Storage presently at 70%.
602 clients; Windows, Linux, and NetWare.
1 TB nightly backup.
HDS SAN; FC for DB + LOG, SATA for storage. no tape!

performance is not an issue, this server never breaks a sweat.

Also use McData Storage Routers for copy pools at DR site.

john
>>> ADSM-L automatic digest system <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/27/07
12:04 AM >>>

Date:Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:57:10 +0900
From:Mark Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TSM and Linux

Morning all

Does anyone have any experiences good or bad running Linux as a TSM
Server? We are a reasonable size environment currently running AIX as
our server and Linux/Windows and Aix clients.

The question has been asked for various reasons to change processors
and flavour.

All feed back would be appreciated.

Regards Mark

Mark Scott

Enterprise Storage & Tivoli Team Leader
Bunnings Group Limited
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Re: Group collocation

[John Underdown]

I'm scheduling the following scripts to automatically assign new nodes to a 
copy group.

Utilities available with TSM 5.3 server when dealing with collocation groups.

http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=100&q1=collocate+group&uid=swg21205433&loc=en_US&cs=utf-8&lang=en

john underdown
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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/15/05 4:35 AM >>>

--

Date:Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:42:21 -0500
From:fred johanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Group collocation

I agree.  It's just another instance of eternal vigilance forced on us by=20
TSM.  I have a group adding a dozen or more new clients a day.  If I don't=
=20
get them assigned to groups and they push so much to disk to force a=20
migration, I wind up with a dozen or so 3592 cartridges with less than 1%=
 used.

More important, until a fix is released, is that MIGDELAY be set to 0 for=20
any disk that goes to a group collocated tape.  Unhappy things occur=20
otherwise.  And I am still working with Level II whether there are=20
additional problems if you go from FILE to group collocated tape.


At 10:15 PM 10/13/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>I know about this because I got bitten by it. I realize it's working as=20
>designed, but I think the design bites. Intuition tells me that if you=20
>collocate by group, any node not in a group doesn't get collocated. But=20
>that's not the way it is.
>
>--
>Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional
>  Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005
>IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert (CATE) AIX
>Berbee Information Networks
>Office 262.521.5627
>
>
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >Behalf Of Kolbeinn J=F3sepsson
> >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:22 PM
> >To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
> >Subject: Re: Group collocation
> >
> >My apologizes, Mark you are correct!
> >
> >The best practise should be to use at least two seperate
> >storagepools, the
> >first with collocation=3Dno (where all non-collocated nodes
> >belongs to) and
> >the second with collocation=3Dgroup (where nodes in collocaton groups
> >belongs), you can then chose if you use the second pool also for
> >collocation by node (non grouped nodes) or if you add the
> >third stgpool
> >with collocation=3Dnode (and perhaps the fourth stgpool with
> >collocation=3Dfilespace if your environment is "large enough").
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Kolbeinn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Stapleton, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> >14.10.2005 01:39
> >Please respond to
> >"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" 
> >
> >
> >To
> >ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 
> >cc
> >
> >Subject
> >Re: Group collocation
> >
> >
> >Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>If I take a storage pool and change it to GROUP from NO
> >>collocation, what
> >>about the data for nodes that ARE NOT in collocation groups ?
> >>Does their
> >>data get collocated or not ?  Will I all of a hsudden go from
> >1-2 daily
> >>LTO2 mounts to 30 ?
> >
> >From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >Behalf Of Kolbeinn J=F3sepsson
> >>Only data from nodes in collocationgroup will be collocated, data from
> >>other nodes in same stgpool will not be collocated.
> >
> >This is incorrect. My experience has been that, when setting a pool to
> >"collocation by group", that any node not belonging to a
> >collocation group
> >will get its data to that pool collocated.
> >
> >(from page 312 of the TSM 5.3 for Windows Administrators' Reference)
> >=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >GRoup
> >Specifies that collocation is enabled at the group level for
> >client nodes.
> >The server attempts to put data for nodes that belong to the same
> >collocation group on as few volumes as possible. If the nodes in the
> >collocation group have multiple file spaces, the server does
> >not attempt
> >to collocate those file spaces.
> >
> >If you specify COLLOCATE=3DGROUP but do not define any groups, data is
> >collocated by node. Similarly, if you specify COLLOCATE=3DGROUP and you
> >define a group but do not add nodes to the group, data is
> >collocated by
> >node.
> >=3D=3D=3D
> >
> >The workaround I found is to create collocation groups and
> >populate them,
> >then create one more collocation group th

Win2k RSM conflict with TSM device driver.

[John Underdown]

Greetings to all, has anyone encountered this problem before?

Whenever the TSM device driver is loaded the OS gives the following error and i lose 
access to the CdRom:

"RSM cannot manage library CdRom0.  It encountered an unspecified error."

If i unload the TSM device driver i regain access to the CdRom. i'm running TSM Server 
5.1.7.0 on a Win2k sp3 OS.

i couldn't find an APAR on this and i have opened a PMR with Tivoli, but i was 
wondering if anyone else has seen this problem.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

john

Re: anyone using ATA disk systems

[John Underdown]

I also appreciate Mr. Railbeck feedback. We have been using an all disk primary backup 
pool for over 4 years now and recently switch our copy pool to all disk NAS located at 
a remote site for DR. While Mr. Railbeck's comments may be correct in theory, for me 
in practice they don't hold up. For instance he said "This (no reclamation for random 
access storage pools) can cause inefficient utilization of the disk space over time" , 
my experience shows random access is still more efficient use of space than sequential 
due to the fact that I set my reclaim threshold for sequential media at 50%. For me 
setting the reclaim threshold higher is not worth the additional overhead. 

Also of note is Mr. Rialbeck's statement "We have not done a lot of testing on this, 
so this can not be taken as a definitive statement". I suggest anyone interested in an 
all disk storage pool environment to test it for themselves. 

Considering TCO, that is, dirt cheap ATA's drives, lightening speed restores, and an 
incredibility simple DR solution, an all disk storage pool environment has been a real 
winner with us. It's made me happy, the users happy, and most importantly management 
happy.

Thanks,

john underdown
SYNOVUS
Phone:706-644-7592

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Date:Mon, 9 Jun 2003 17:04:07 -0400
From:"Talafous, John G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: anyone using ATA disk systems

Mr. Raibeck,
  I appreciate your feedback and, being involved in IT for some 30 years, I
understand the technical challenges involved. That is why I posted the
question. With the falling cost of disk architecture, a disk to disk backup
alternative seems to be coming close to rivaling disk to tape as a backup
alternative. Especially when dealing with some of the more sophisticated
tape solutions that involve the mainframe/zArchitecture.
  If I size my TSM solution such that I can recover 'x' number of
application servers in a given number of hours, then I will require a
certain number of tape drives based on the data transfer rate of each tape
drive.  Hence, any recovery process in DR mode is limited to the number of
tape drives available. Ouch!!! With disk to disk, my limitation is the TSM
server and the network.
  Add to the mix the fact that tape data transfer speeds are less than SCSI
and/or ATA data transfer speeds and the thought is that with capacity of
disk architectures increasing rapidly and the price currently lower than
tape, it makes sense to back up everything to disk!!! Faster and lower cost!
So, I/we would appreciate IBM Tivoli's support of this concept.
  With all the pressure on budgets and all these jobs NAFTAing, I MUST
arrive at the best solution! Thanks for your consideration.

John G. Talafous  IS Technical Principal
The Timken CompanyGlobal Software Support
P.O. Box 6927 Data Management
1835 Dueber Ave. S.W. Phone: (330)-471-3390
Canton, Ohio USA  44706-0927  Fax  : (330)-471-4034
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.timken.com


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From: Andrew Raibeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: anyone using ATA disk systems


Addendum: I as I said earlier, we continue to study the matter. Possible
outcomes include enhancements that will enable TSM to function better in
an all disk storage pool environment, although we make no commitments at
this time.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.

Re: TSM Disk Pool Management

[John Underdown]

Manuel,

The remote copypool ended up being NetWare 6, i can serve up a 8TB volume to TSM with 
Novell Storage Services (NSS). NetWare's Common Internet FileSystem (CIFS) allows TSM 
access without loading a NetWare client on the TSM server. 

i chose this approach because copypools can only access sequential media, so NAS was 
my only option. It also appears copypools can only have a single device which limited 
me to one NAS volume per copypool. Windows volumes have a limit of 2TB which was too 
small for my backuppool, short of having to break it up into multiple 2TB  backuppools 
and copypools, i decide to use NetWare to get around this, we are also a NetWare shop 
so this was a no brainier.

Everything seems to working fine so far but it's still new. I also have another 7TB of 
ATA disk arrays on order that should get here in a couple of weeks, the price is now 
down to ~$3,000/TB. 

Let me know how this solution sound to you and also let me know what you decide to go 
with.

Thanks,

john



>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/20/03 09:03AM >>>
John,
I read your message on adsm.org Mailing List.
I wonder if you implemented the remote copy pool.
We are considering a similar solution, and we are talking to DataCore and
FalconStor.
Thanks,
Manuel J. Sanchez

Assurant Group
(305) 252-7035 x32153
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Re: TSM Disk Pool Management

[John Underdown]

Hi Wanda,

We still use tape for the copypool, but this is now not a viable DR solutions due to 
the time factor to restore from tape. We are presently evaluating ISCSI and NAS 
solutions for a disk copypool at a remote site, using 1Gb Ethernet (we have dark fibre 
to our DR site). The two ISCSI products we have evaluated so far are Ipstor from 
Falconstor and SANsympthony from DataCore, both are great products. The NAS solutions 
we are presently looking at is NetWare 6's NSS (with CIFS since our TSM Server is 
W2K), it's looking really good since is can server up a 8TB volume and the copypool 
can use a device type of FILE. Novell's solution is also the most affordable (free 
since we are a big NetWare shop). Our Audit department has already given us the OK to 
go to disk for the copypool as long as it's offsite. I'll backup the db to the offsite 
storage also, so in theory if we lose our TSM server, i can build a new one restore 
the DB from the remote site and start doing restores immediately from the copypool, if 
the backupool is gone TSM automatically pulls files from the copypool. I hope to have 
this all in place in the next couple months (if not sooner) using ATA drive 
enclosures, right now i can get 3.2 TB for $10,000. i have $25,000 in the budget, so 
if i go with the NetWare NAS i should easily make it.

Let me know how this all sounds to you or if you have any further questions.

john
Synovus

>>> "Prather, Wanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/30/03 05:11PM >>>
Hi John,

We have also starting looking at an all disk backuppool for the future.
I am curious how you handle:

1) backups of your DB
2) disaster recovery planning/offsite backups

Thanks!
Wanda Prather
Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab


-Original Message-
From: John Underdown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 8:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Disk Pool Management


Mark,

We been using a all disk backuppool for a number of years now. It's grown to
4TB, we just keep adding disk expansion to the server as we need more
storage (We are now looking at the new ATA Raid Expansion Cabinets 3TB for
$10,000).  We backup 377 servers (80 to 100 GB total) nightly and growing.
The TSM database is 15GB sitting on raid 10 with 15K rpm drives (very fast)
, i also defrag the DB monthly. This is a dream setup and works very well,
restores run in the blink of a eye. I run the TSM server  by myself as a
part-time duty. The only problem you'll have is figuring out what to do with
all your free time.

The is a common topic on the list, search the achives at www.adsm.org. Let
me know if you have any questions.


John
Synovus
Synovus Makes FORTUNE '100 Best Companies To Work For' in America For Sixth
Straight Year.

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Hokanson, Mark
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Disk Pool Management


We are considering creating an extremely large TSM disk storage pool
(IE: 1-10TB). The goal being to eliminate going to tape. Does anyone
have any really BIG disk pools? Are there tools available for managing
large TSM disk pools over time. (IE: Reclamation, Aging Data, etc) The
documentation from Tivoli suggests that we need to set it up as a device
type=FILE. What are the drawbacks using this approach? Is performance
dramatically impacted? etc...

Thanks in advance,

Mark Hokanson
Thomson Legal & Regulatory



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Re: TSM Disk Pool Management

[John Underdown]

Mark,

Yep. Retention is 30 days. Device type is "Disk", don't use "File" because you have to 
manage the volumes like tape and that takes extra work. i've never had a problem with 
fragmentation, i suppose it's possible if you make your disk volumes very small, my 
disk volumes are 200Gb each and my backuppool Pct Util has run in the high 90's with 
no problems. 

Has far as keeping my storage small is where i really have to get creative. First, all 
clients compress data (don't turn on "compress always" because already compressed 
files will grow), that way files are stored compressed on the disk pools. Second and 
most important use global excludes so you don't backup any thing you don't need. One 
of the biggest saving was not backing up indexes for Groupwise Databases, all 
groupwise admin's know if they restore a DB they have to reindex, the indexes take up 
much more space than the DB's themselves. i also exclude temp files and 
subdirectories, recycle directories, and salvage directories on NetWare Servers. If it 
wasn't for my creative use of excludes my storage requirements for backups would be 
much greater. You need to do a lot of work with users, administrators, and dba's to 
get backups down to the bare minium. 

Let me know if you have any other questions.

John
Synovus

>>> "Hokanson, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/10/03 10:22AM >>>

John,

So all of your backup data is on the disk and none ever goes to tape? What is your 
retention? Are you device type file? How do you handle storage pool fragmentation? 
With 377 servers at 100gB nightly it seems you would fill your 4TB with about 40 day 
retention, correct?

Thanks a lot for your help,

Mark


 -Original Message-
From: John Underdown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 7:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TSM Disk Pool Management


Mark,

We been using a all disk backuppool for a number of years now. It's grown to 4TB, we 
just keep adding disk expansion to the server as we need more storage (We are now 
looking at the new ATA Raid Expansion Cabinets 3TB for $10,000).  We backup 377 
servers (80 to 100 GB total) nightly and growing. The TSM database is 15GB sitting on 
raid 10 with 15K rpm drives (very fast) , i also defrag the DB monthly. This is a 
dream setup and works very well, restores run in the blink of a eye. I run the TSM 
server  by myself as a part-time duty. The only problem you'll have is figuring out 
what to do with all your free time.

The is a common topic on the list, search the achives at www.adsm.org. Let me know if 
you have any questions.


John
Synovus
Synovus Makes FORTUNE '100 Best Companies To Work For' in America For Sixth Straight 
Year.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Hokanson, Mark
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Disk Pool Management


We are considering creating an extremely large TSM disk storage pool
(IE: 1-10TB). The goal being to eliminate going to tape. Does anyone
have any really BIG disk pools? Are there tools available for managing
large TSM disk pools over time. (IE: Reclamation, Aging Data, etc) The
documentation from Tivoli suggests that we need to set it up as a device
type=FILE. What are the drawbacks using this approach? Is performance
dramatically impacted? etc...

Thanks in advance,

Mark Hokanson
Thomson Legal & Regulatory





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Re: TSM Disk Pool Management

[John Underdown]

Mark,

We been using a all disk backuppool for a number of years now. It's grown to 4TB, we 
just keep adding disk expansion to the server as we need more storage (We are now 
looking at the new ATA Raid Expansion Cabinets 3TB for $10,000).  We backup 377 
servers (80 to 100 GB total) nightly and growing. The TSM database is 15GB sitting on 
raid 10 with 15K rpm drives (very fast) , i also defrag the DB monthly. This is a 
dream setup and works very well, restores run in the blink of a eye. I run the TSM 
server  by myself as a part-time duty. The only problem you'll have is figuring out 
what to do with all your free time.

The is a common topic on the list, search the achives at www.adsm.org. Let me know if 
you have any questions.


John
Synovus
Synovus Makes FORTUNE '100 Best Companies To Work For' in America For Sixth Straight 
Year.

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Hokanson, Mark
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TSM Disk Pool Management


We are considering creating an extremely large TSM disk storage pool
(IE: 1-10TB). The goal being to eliminate going to tape. Does anyone
have any really BIG disk pools? Are there tools available for managing
large TSM disk pools over time. (IE: Reclamation, Aging Data, etc) The
documentation from Tivoli suggests that we need to set it up as a device
type=FILE. What are the drawbacks using this approach? Is performance
dramatically impacted? etc...

Thanks in advance,

Mark Hokanson
Thomson Legal & Regulatory



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Re: Help!!!!!!!! What does do????????

[John Underdown]

This took 5 hours on a 16 GB database.

TSM Server Diagnostic: Server: SFC-TSM1 ANRD imutil.c(3983): ThreadId<30> CLEANUP 
BACKUPGROUPS evaluated 8797 groups and deleted 2118 orphan groups with 2088458 group 
members deleted.. 

>>> Joel Fuhrman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/25/02 12:39PM >>>
Like you, I could not find any documentation but I didn't look very hard
since Tivoli support told me to run it to solve a problem.  On 5.1.1.4 the
first run took about 1 hour on my 10 GB database.  I didn't check for
changes in the db size, so I don't know if the db size was reduced.  I
finally ran had to run AUDITDB FIX=YES to clean up the mess.  Be sure your
server is 5.1.1.6.

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, John Underdown wrote:

> Joel,
> 
> Like a stupid i ran  with out knowing what is does. It's now 
>running and my TSM Database is shrinking! Should i PANIC? I have backups if i need to 
>restore. i've just upgraded to TSM 5.1.1.6. And can't find any info on this command 
>or what's it's doing to my database.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> john
> 

Re: Help!!!!!!!! What does do????????

[John Underdown]

Joel,

It's looks like "CLEANUP BACKUPGROUP" does a partial online auditdb fix=yes. Also the 
APAR's listed below looks like the problem i'm having with AUDITDB so it's a good 
prelude to this weekend's auditdb.

john

APAR= IC33977  SER=IN INCORROUT
THREADID<0> ERROR 8 CONVERTING GROUP.MEMBERS TOBACKUP.GROUPS
MESSAGE ISSUED WHEN UPGRADING TO 5.1 SERVER.

Status: CLOSED  Closed: 07/15/02

Problem Conclusion:
The TSM server has been modified to prevent the case where some of the members of a 
grouped set of backup files may not have been deleted when they should have been.

The server has also been modified to provide the command "CLEANUP BACKUPGROUP".  This 
command will cause the server to evaluate all the defined groups of backup files 
in-use on the server and remove any extraneous or orphaned members that should have 
previously been deleted.

If the server encounters an orphaned backup group member during an upgrade from V4.2 
to V5.1, the server will issue the following message:

"ANRD iminit.c():  ThreadId Orphaned group member encountered - issue 
CLEANUP BACKUPGROUP to resolve this issue."

If this message is encountered during an UPGRADEDDB from V4.2 to V5.1, simply issue 
this command and the server database will evaluate and find any orphaned group members 
and remove them.


APAR= IC34159

AUDIT DB EXCESSIVETIME MSGANR4306I AUDITDB PROCESSED DATABASE ENTRIES NOT CHANGING 
ANR4306I

Status: CLOSED  Closed: 07/24/02

Apar Information:

RCOMP= 5698ISMSVTSM SERVER 510  RREL= R51W
FCOMP=  PFREL= F999  TREL= T
SRLS:

Return Codes:

Applicable Component Level/SU:

Error Description:
Audit DB for the TSM database takes an excessive amount of time and the entires 
processed does not increment for long periods of time.

A message such as:
ANR4306I AUDITDB: Processed 22170066 database entries (cumulativ


Local Fix:
Avoid running the audit if the audit fix=no shows thousands of these entries.

Comments:
APAR IC33977 documents this problem and the "CLEANUP BACKUPGROUP" command that was 
added.  The CLEANUP BACKUPGROUP command will resolve this problem
without needing to perform an AUDITDB of the server database. 


>>> Joel Fuhrman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/25/02 12:39PM >>>
Like you, I could not find any documentation but I didn't look very hard
since Tivoli support told me to run it to solve a problem.  On 5.1.1.4 the
first run took about 1 hour on my 10 GB database.  I didn't check for
changes in the db size, so I don't know if the db size was reduced.  I
finally ran had to run AUDITDB FIX=YES to clean up the mess.  Be sure your
server is 5.1.1.6.

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, John Underdown wrote:

> Joel,
> 
> Like a stupid i ran  with out knowing what is does. It's now 
>running and my TSM Database is shrinking! Should i PANIC? I have backups if i need to 
>restore. i've just upgraded to TSM 5.1.1.6. And can't find any info on this command 
>or what's it's doing to my database.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> john
> 

Re: ADSM-L Digest - 22 Sep 2002 to 23 Sep 2002 (#2002-264)

[John Underdown]

Abdulaziz,

Officially TSM doesn't support MetaFrame. I found the main problem to be the remapping 
of the drives, TSM seems to be hard coded to backup system objects from drive c:. If i 
don't remap drives on MetaFrame, TSM seems to work fine.

john

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/02 12:05AM >>>
Date:Mon, 23 Sep 2002 10:13:42 +0300
From:Abdulaziz Almuammar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to backup CITRIX server?

Hi guys,
i have CITRIX META FRAME 1.8 and i want to backup this server. the =
problem is=20
i installed the windows2000 client 4.2.2 on it but when i schedule the =
backup some how the schedule stops and the backup dosen't go fine. i =
tried to backup the server manually but i found that it didnt backup all =
data and it finished fast.
is there a special client for CITRIX?
i have TSM server 4.1.5


thaks,

Re: Script timing issue with MOVE DATA WAIT=YES

[John Underdown]

Here's how i wait on a  process to finish. Basically i query the process and
if it's still running i re-spawn the schedule for ten minutes later. If you
have any questions please let me know.

john
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

--
/*DAILY*/
/*backup db*/
delete schedule chkproc type=admin
q process
if(rc_notfound) goto cont
def schedule chkproc cmd="run daily" active=yes startd=today
startt=now+00:10 exp=today
exit
cont:
backup db dev=bakdrive type=full wait=yes
def schedule chkproc cmd="run Script1" active=yes startd=today
startt=now+00:10 exp=today
exit
/* End of DAILY*/

/*SCRIPT1*/
/*Expire data bkup stg backup\archive pools*/
delete schedule chkproc type=admin
q process
if(rc_notfound) goto cont
def schedule chkproc cmd="run script1" active=yes startd=today
startt=now+00:10 exp=today
exit
cont:
def schedule chkproc cmd="run backupstg" active=yes startd=today
startt=now+00:10 exp=today
expire inventory
exit
/*End of SCRIPT1*/

/*Backupstg*/
delete schedule chkproc type=admin
q process
if(rc_notfound) goto cont
def schedule chkproc cmd="run backupstg" active=yes startd=today
startt=now+00:10 exp=today
exit
cont:
backup stg backuppool copypool
/*End of Backupstg*/


-Original Message-

Date:Sun, 19 May 2002 00:31:18 -0500
From:Roger Deschner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Script timing issue with MOVE DATA WAIT=YES

This is a tsm script: (AIX 4.2.1.9)

  MOVE DATA $1 WAIT=YES
  COMMIT
  UPDATE LIBVOL ATLP3000 $1 STATUS=PRIVATE

The idea is, when moving data off of tapes that I suspect have media
problems, to avoid having the tape become an available scratch tape and
get reused. MOVE DATA can take a long time, and I might not see when it
completes. I might not even be awake. The problem is that I get the
following error message:

ANR8442E UPDATE LIBVOLUME: Volume CPM642 in library ATLP3000 is
currently in use.

The tape is still mounted according to QUERY MOUNT, because it is
rewinding, unloading, and being put away in its slot by my robotic
friend inside the library.

Either:

1. There is some kind of SLEEP command for scripts that I am
overlooking.

2. There is a bug in MOVE DATA WAIT=YES in that it does not wait for the
tape to rewind and unload and get put away by the robot.

Roger Deschner  University of Illinois at Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: Using Disk in place of tapes for copy pools

[John Underdown]

Mark,

Good point, what you may have heard being a problem was using Network Attached Storage 
(NAS) for TSM volumes, in which case TSM considers sequential media. i'm talking about 
using Direct Attached Storage (DAS). Since DAS is consider random access by TSM there 
is no need to do reclamation on the disk volumes. Expire Inventory reduces the size of 
the disk volumes automatically. ISCSI would also be seen as random access by TSM since 
it's block I/O and not file I/O like NAS.

The pros are disks arrays are much cheaper than tape libraries and more reliable, 
everything runs faster, and much less maintenance.

There's no cons to using disk for your backup pool except one and it's a big one, if 
you lose a 1TB array it's bear to restore from the copypool, especially in our case of 
having a small tape library. That's why i recommended Pat to keep his large tape 
library and just grow his disk storage. Our disk expansion cases (IBM Exp300's) use 
raid 5 and have plenty of hot spares with redundant everything and are plugged into 
two dedicated separate AC circuits.

We have a number of Policy Domains ranging from 14 to 30 days retention period. i do 
use excludes heavily, especially apps that create large index files that have to be 
recreated after a restore anyway.

If you have another questions please let me know.

john

-Original Message-

Date:Thu, 11 Apr 2002 11:12:43 -0400
From:"Kovacs, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using Disk in place of tapes for copy pools

John,

How many versions do you keep and how does reclamation happen, if it
does ?  We are interested in setting up something like this and would like
to know more of the pros and cons.  We've seen prior conversations about
issues on reclamation.

Any and all information would be appreciated.

thanks,
mark

-Original Message-
From: John Underdown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: Using Disk in place of tapes for copy pools


Pat,

We been using a all disk backuppool for a number of years now. It's grown to
3TB (4 expansion cabinets with 14 73GB drives each and each set to raid 5),
we just keep adding disk expansion to server as we need more storage. We use
a small LTO library for the copypool. We backup 360 servers (80 to 100 GB
total) nightly and growing. The TSM database is 10GB sitting on raid 10 with
15K rpm drives (very fast) , i also defrag the DB monthly. This is a dream
setup and works very well, restores run in the blink of a eye. I run the TSM
server  by myself as a part-time duty.

I would suggest just growing your disks storage on your backuppool to at
least 1 TB to keep backups and restore running fast, allowing older data to
migrate to your existing tape library. Now a days disks have both a
performance and price advantage over tape.

If you have any other question please let me know.

john
Synovus
Columbus, GA
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Re: NetWare, Compression & Slow Backups

[John Underdown]

Flemming,

If you try to recompress a file it will grow in size on you plus over work your CPU, 
the TSM client is smart enough to know the difference between a file that's already 
compressed and one that is not.

COMPRESSION YES
COMPRESSALWAYS NO (Always!)

Also, if compression is set to yes, turn off the compression on your tape drives, 
you'll have the same issue!!!

john
Synovus
Columbus, GA

 -Original Message-
Date:Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:08:54 +0200
From:Flemming Hougaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NetWare, Compression & Slow Backups

Hi all

I have read most of the bulletins about NetWare and slow backups - and =
one of those issues there keeps coming up in most of these bulletins, is =
about compression.=20

I really need the Client compression, but my question is:

 - Should you use the '"COMPRESSALWAYS  YES"? If not why?

Best regards

Flemming Hougaard

--

Re: Using Disk in place of tapes for copy pools

[John Underdown]

Pat,

We been using a all disk backuppool for a number of years now. It's grown to 3TB (4 
expansion cabinets with 14 73GB drives each and each set to raid 5), we just keep 
adding disk expansion to server as we need more storage. We use a small LTO library 
for the copypool. We backup 360 servers (80 to 100 GB total) nightly and growing. The 
TSM database is 10GB sitting on raid 10 with 15K rpm drives (very fast) , i also 
defrag the DB monthly. This is a dream setup and works very well, restores run in the 
blink of a eye. I run the TSM server  by myself as a part-time duty.

I would suggest just growing your disks storage on your backuppool to at least 1 TB to 
keep backups and restore running fast, allowing older data to migrate to your existing 
tape library. Now a days disks have both a performance and price advantage over tape.

If you have any other question please let me know.

john
Synovus
Columbus, GA
--

Date:Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:32:20 -0400
From:"Patrick J. Kelleher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Using Disk in place of tapes for copy pools

We currently back up 500 GIG a night using an ATL 6000 tape library. Before
replacing Tape Library we would like to research the possibility of using
Disk in place of tape for all backups.

 Anyone doing this, especially on a large scale as we have 20 terabytes in
Tape Library.

--

Re: Library

[John Underdown]

Keith,

Did you ever resolve this? If you're having a problem accessing the drives it could be 
a problem with Windows since TSM connects through  Windows drivers to IBm drives (IBM 
drives are not supported natively by TSM).

On W2K check under Computer Management->Removable Storage->Physical Locations, you 
should see all your drives listed, check the property of each one and make sure it's 
enabled. 

Also under Device Manager check to see if each drive is there and there isn't a yellow 
 over the device. 

Make sure you have the correct driver loaded for the Firmware Level of the drive. 
Normally you have to update the Windwos driver after updating the hardware firmware.

If all this checks out, delete the drives and library from TSM and re-setup library 
and drives for TSM.

If you have any questions please let me know.

john

-Original Message-
From: Keith Gourd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Library


I have a 3583 library connected through SCSI to a 4500R IBM server. I
recently updated the firmware (22U0 on the drives and V2_72_12.lif)  on
the drives and the library. When I finished the library would not accept
commands. I can query the drives and they are on-line and I can query the
library. Does anyone have any suggestion on what the problem could be? TSM
only sees two of my 6 drives, I have checked my connections.

Thanks,

--


>>> John Underdown 03/27/02 08:41AM >>>
Keith,

Normaly you have to load new OS drivers after updating firmware, make sure you're 
using the latest Windows drivers for the drives, check the firmware CD for newer 
drivers. The drives are accessed through the OS, does Windows see the drives OK, also 
TSM might see these as new drives since the firmware has been updated, you may have to 
delete the old drives and re add them as new drives, use the TSM wizards to do this.

john

>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/27/02 08:29AM >>>
John,
 I have upgraded all the firmware on the drives and the library. When I do 
a q driv in the command line I see all the drives but it tells me that 
they are off line. Do you have any suggestions? I have not upgraded the 
firmware on the SAN data gateway, Would that have anything to do with the 
drives not being online? 

Keith Gourd 
LAN Administrator

Re: Copy Stgpool and Migrations

[John Underdown]

Here's how i wait on a  process to finish. Basically i query the process and if it's 
still running i re-spawn the schedule for ten minutes later. If you have any questions 
please let me know.

john
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
/*DAILY*/
/*backup db*/
delete schedule chkproc type=admin
q process
if(rc_notfound) goto cont
def schedule chkproc cmd="run daily" active=yes startd=today startt=now+00:10 exp=today
exit
cont:
backup db dev=bakdrive type=full wait=yes
def schedule chkproc cmd="run Script1" active=yes startd=today startt=now+00:10 
exp=today
exit
/* End of DAILY*/

/*SCRIPT1*/
/*Expire data bkup stg backup\archive pools*/
delete schedule chkproc type=admin
q process
if(rc_notfound) goto cont
def schedule chkproc cmd="run script1" active=yes startd=today startt=now+00:10 
exp=today
exit
cont:
def schedule chkproc cmd="run backupstg" active=yes startd=today startt=now+00:10 
exp=today
expire inventory
exit
/*End of SCRIPT1*/

/*Backupstg*/
delete schedule chkproc type=admin
q process
if(rc_notfound) goto cont
def schedule chkproc cmd="run backupstg" active=yes startd=today startt=now+00:10 
exp=today
exit
cont:
backup stg backuppool copypool
/*End of Backupstg*/

-Original Message-

Date:Mon, 1 Apr 2002 12:37:41 +0200
From:=?iso-8859-1?q?Francisco=20Molero?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Copy Stgpool and Migrations

Hi,
you can run all commands in a script, then you can run
the commands one per one. In addicion, you should see
the options movebatchsize ( 1000) and movesizethresh
(500), this options improve the performance in process
like migration , backup stg, reclamations,etc..

--- "Dearman, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribis: > I
backup my systems to a disk stgpool then backup
> that stgpool to an offsite
> copy stgpool library at 8am then at 11am I migrate
> the disk stgpool to an
> onsite tape library.  Currently I schedule the jobs
> in tsm by just issuing
> the proper commands at 8am and 11am.  The problem is
> my 8am backup to my
> copy stgpool sometimes runs into the migrattion at
> 11am.  Does anyone have a
> more efficient way of doing this instead of me just
> changing the migration
> to a later time.
>
> Thanks
> Richard

Re: TSM server automation.

[John Underdown]

Here's how i wait on a  process to finish, i check every 10 minutes. i like to backup 
the DB first thing just incase

/*DAILY*/
/*backup db*/
delete schedule chkproc type=admin
q process
if(rc_notfound) goto cont
def schedule chkproc cmd="run daily" active=yes startd=today startt=now+00:10 exp=today
exit
cont:
backup db dev=bakdrive type=full wait=yes
def schedule chkproc cmd="run Script1" active=yes startd=today startt=now+00:10 
exp=today
exit
/* End of DAILY*/

/*SCRIPT1*/
/*Expire data bkup stg backup\archive pools*/
delete schedule chkproc type=admin
q process
if(rc_notfound) goto cont
def schedule chkproc cmd="run script1" active=yes startd=today startt=now+00:10 
exp=today
exit
cont:
def schedule chkproc cmd="run backupstg" active=yes startd=today startt=now+00:10 
exp=today
expire inventory
exit
/*End of SCRIPT1*/

/*Backupstg*/
delete schedule chkproc type=admin
q process
if(rc_notfound) goto cont
def schedule chkproc cmd="run backupstg" active=yes startd=today startt=now+00:10 
exp=today
exit
cont:
backup stg backuppool copypool
/*End of Backupstg*/


-Original Message-
From: Jason Liang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: TSM server automation.

Hi *SMers,

My environment:  TSM 4.2.1.11  IBM LTO 3584 with 8 drives and 10 I/O
stations.

I want to implement such TSM server automation:

1. If there is no migration running, then "backup stg tapepool copypool";
2. When backup stg finishes, "backup db dev=lto type=full"
3. When backup db finished, change the volumes of copypool to offsite, and
then checkout these volumes and the DB volumes; Notify tape operators;
If the numbers of volumes  exceed 10, then checkout the first 10
volumes, wait for the I/O stations becomes empty and then
   checkout the others;

Any help will be appreciated.

Jason Liang

Re: Archive and keep last accessed date.

[John Underdown]

A while back i posted an archiving (on last accessed date) Perl script for NetWare, 
Perl is native to NetWare and runs from the console (use cron.nlm to schedule), works 
on 4.11 and 5.1. You should be able to script whatever you need with Perl, Novell has 
done a excellent port from Unix.  Be sure to set  'nww no' in the dsm.opt file.

www.adsm.org and search for: 'Archiving Perl Script'.

Later,

john underdown
Synovus Financial Corporation

Re: Novell GroupWise

[John Underdown]

Novell as a number of TID's on this. Use stuffkey to bring down GroupWise as follows:

---TSM Presched Command-
LOAD SYS:SYSTEM\STUFFKEY SYS:SYSTEM\GWPOAOUT.KEY

GWPOAOUT.KEY---
GroupWise POA - SYNOVUS TECHNOLOGIES R&D
Y
<1 waitfor text=QuickFinder>



Screen name MUST be max 14 chars, truncate rest.

Use the following Client options, especially excluding the indexes, they are 
unnecessary for restoring GroupWise and make up half the size and change daily.


Option: INCLEXCL
Sequence number: 41
   Override: No
   Option Value: EXCLUDE *:\gw5po\ofuser\index/.../*

 Option: INCLEXCL
Sequence number: 42
   Override: No
   Option Value: EXCLUDE *:\gw5po\wpcs*/.../*

 Option: INCLEXCL
Sequence number: 43
   Override: No
   Option Value: EXCLUDE *:\gw5po/.../*.db[a-z]
--

GroupWise 6 should have it's own TSA for backing up, but i don't know if TSM will 
support it.

If you have any question, please let me know.

john underdown
Synovus


Date:Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:01:28 -0500
From:Mark Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Novell GroupWise

I need to know if anyone is backing up Novell's GroupWise and if so what =
are the parameters in backing it up.  Such as does it have to be shut down =
to get a proper backup.

--

Date:Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:40:42 -0600
From:Miles Purdy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Novell GroupWise

I am, sort of. We are moving to TSM from another product. It is my =
understanding that with GroupWise we are going to make sure there are no =
users online at the time (of the backup). I'm also led to believe that =
everything in GroupWise are files. By booting the the users off this =
should prevent any problems from TSM to backup the (plain) files.

Please let me know what you find.

Miles


---=
---
Miles Purdy=20
System Manager
Farm Income Programs Directorate
Winnipeg, MB, CA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ph: (204) 984-1602 fax: (204) 983-7557

"If you hold a UNIX shell up to your ear, can you hear the C?"
---=
--

Re: Netware 6

[John Underdown]

Tivoli told me NetWare 6 would not be supported until TSM 5, due out late first 
quarter 2002.

Later,

John Underdown

Date:Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:32:20 -0500
From:Jim Kirkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netware 6

What version of client? I'd also be curious as to the rev of the pertinent nlms in NW6.

We're not backing it up yet, but have a number of issues with trying to back up a NW 
cluster that are 'supposed' to
be addressed in 6.



Miles Purdy wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> AIX server 4.1 (4.2 planned)
> NetWare 6 client
>
> Is any one backing up NetWare 6? Have any luck, our servers seem to be abend'ing on 
>the dsmc.nlm (so I'm told).
>
> Miles
>
> 
>--
> Miles Purdy
> System Manager
> Farm Income Programs Directorate
> Winnipeg, MB, CA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> ph: (204) 984-1602 fax: (204) 983-7557
>
> "If you hold a UNIX shell up to your ear, can you hear the C?"
> 
>-

--
Jim Kirkman
AIS - Systems
UNC-Chapel Hill
966-5884

Message: "Thank you for using TSM"

[John Underdown]

RTFM, see below:

Nwwaitonerror

The nwwaitonerror option specifies that the client program responds in one of the 
following ways, if an error occurs while exiting: 

Display an error message and wait before returning to the NetWare console. 

Return immediately to the NetWare console. 
Note: You can exploit the nwwaitonerror option when running DSMC in an automated mode, 
such as, from an .NCF file. By default, you are asked to press any key to continue 
before you exit the DSMC program. If you specify yes, DSMC will not post this prompt.  

Syntax 

>>-NWWaitonerror+ .-Yes--.--+---><
'-No---'

Parameters 

Yes 
Specifies that the client program displays an error message if it encounters an error. 
Press Enter to return to the NetWare console. This is the default. 

No 
Specifies that the client program returns immediately to the NetWare console if it 
encounters an error while exiting. An error message is not displayed. 
Examples 

Options file: 
nww yes 

Command line: 
Does not apply. 
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Date:Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:02:33 +0200
From:Danielsson Lars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Message: "Thank you for using TSM"

Hi,

Do anyone of you know how to stop the message
"Thank you for using TSM" in the TSM client 4.1.2.16 in Netware?

  Thanks
Lars

_
Lars Danielsson
Volvo Information Technology AB
Dept 2510, HD2S
SE-40508 Gothenburg, Sweden
Telephone: +46 31 667479   Telefax: +46 31 662336
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Archiving Perl Script.

[John Underdown]

Since there's a lot of discussion on Perl scripts, i'm posting one i wrote to archive 
files that haven't been accessed in over a year. i'm presently running it on my 
NetWare servers since Tivoli Space Manager (HSM) doesn't support NetWare. But with a 
little tweaking this script should work on any OS. i looked at Knozall's FileWizard 
TSM, but this Perl script actually does a much better job. With a little polish this 
could be a first class application, but heck, who has the time!? Oh ya, one thing, the 
function drilldir is a recursive function (this Perl is powerful stuff).

Let me know what you think.

John Underdown
Synovus Financial Corp.

—- dsmarch.pl —-
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;

my $root = "DATA:/";
#my $root = "SYS:/";
my $days = "360"; 
my $startime = localtime;
my $deltime = time-$days*86400;
my @getime;
my @filestat;  # holds stats of the file.
my $filesize;
my $date;
my @accdate;

#my $report = 1;
my $report = 1 if ($ARGV[0] eq '-report');
my $totsize = 0;  #counter for total size of files selected
my $count = 0;#counter of number of files selected
my $debug = 0;#debug puts output to file

open (OUT,">>sys:tivoli/tsm/client/ba/dsmarch.log");
print OUT "$startime for $days day\n";

drilldir($root);

1 while $count =~ s/(\d)(\d\d\d)(?!\d)/$1,$2/g;
1 while $totsize =~ s/(\d)(\d\d\d)(?!\d)/$1,$2/g;
$startime = localtime;
print OUT "$startime - $count files at $totsize bytes\n";
close (OUT);

sub drilldir {

my $curr_dir = shift;  # the current directory
my $fullFilename;  # a combination of $curr_dir and the current filename.
my @files; # holds a list of files in current dir.

print "$curr_dir\n";
opendir(ROOT, $curr_dir);
@files = readdir(ROOT);
closedir(ROOT);

foreach (@files) {

@getime=localtime;
if (-e "sys:/perlstop"||$getime[2] == 7) {
   1 while $count =~ s/(\d)(\d\d\d)(?!\d)/$1,$2/g;
   1 while $totsize =~ s/(\d)(\d\d\d)(?!\d)/$1,$2/g;
   $startime = localtime;
   print OUT "$startime - $count files at $totsize bytes\n";
   close (OUT);
   die "User ABORT!\n"; 
}

next if /^\.|\.\.$/;

$fullFilename= "$curr_dir$_";

next if ($fullFilename eq "DATA:/USER");

if (-d $fullFilename) {
drilldir("$fullFilename/");
next;
}

@filestat = stat($fullFilename); 

   if ($filestat[8]<$deltime) {

  @accdate=localtime($filestat[8]);
  $date=sprintf("%02d-%02d-%04d",$accdate[4]+1,$accdate[3],$accdate[5]+1900);
  $totsize= $totsize + $filestat[7];
  $count = $count + 1;

  $filesize = $filestat[7];
  1 while $filesize =~ s/(\d)(\d\d\d)(?!\d)/$1,$2/g;
  print OUT "$fullFilename   $filesize $date\n";

  if (!$report) {
   system("load dsmc AR \"$fullFilename\" -DEL");
 } 
   }

}
}

Re: Netware backups with 4.1.x ... help me ... I'm drowning!!

[John Underdown]

Peter,

Try the following from Novell's Knowledge Base, Tecnical Information Document 2944976:



SMS Group Object is corrupt improperly configured.

There may be circumstances where the SMS Group Object is created without the 
administrator having the opportunity to define the Context. 

Solutions 
To recreate the object, do the following:

First, if TSA500 has been loaded, it will need to be unloaded. In some cases, SMDR may 
have not loaded at all, but, if it is in memory, it will need to be unloaded before 
executing SMDR NEW at the console. The configuration prompts for SMDR are as follows:

   SMDR Configuration Screen

Default SMDR Group container context OU=MyOU.O=MyOrg

Press enter for using default context/enter the new container context
SMDR Group Context: 



Default SMDR Context OU=MyOu.O=MyOrg

Press enter for using default context/enter the new context
SMDR Context: 

Enter the user name(full context) that has managing rights

Example: .CN=Admin.OU=sms.O=MyOrgl
Username: .admin.MyOrg
Password: 

SMDR will load with no messages.



Make sure user .. is a member of the SMDR Group.

Good Luck,

John Underdown

-Original Message-
From: Peter Hadikin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 5:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Netware backups with 4.1.x ... help me ... I'm drowning!!


Hello group,

I am about ready to give up ... we have upgraded our Netware 5.x servers
to either 4.1.1 or 4.1.2.  It is not a pretty site.  On both our
production NDS tree and our test NDS tree we are experiencing the
following problem.  I have to say I am at a loss.  I see nothing wrong
with the TSM install and config.  The Netware boys assure me I should
have no problems logging into the tree ... yet, here I sit writing this
note.

Once I receive this error message, I am prompted for a login to the tree
and can login successfully with the same id & pw.  I have some some
references to this same problem in past years but nothing recently.
Any, and I mean any suggestions could result in a free set of beers next
time that individual happens to be in the vicinity of Vancouver or I am
in their vicinity ... or, I suppose if we both happen to be in another
vicinity.  Anybody from ADSM/TSM support or developement ... any
thoughts?  As you can tell from my note, I am a poor, rattled and
desperate soul.  Help me!

Oh yes, I have tried all sorts of different flavors of SMDR, TSA500,
TSANDS ... all with this same story.  You can reach me at the top of the
Port Mann bridge ... I'm gonna jump, this time I really mean it! (ok ...
I'm only kidding but I COULD change my mind)

01/25/2001 07:05:52 ANS1874E Login denied to NetWare Target Service
Agent 'JOHNNY'.
01/25/2001 07:05:52 ANS1874E Login denied to NetWare Target Service
Agent 'JOHNNY'.
01/25/2001 07:06:00 ANS1880E TSA Connect error,
 NWSMConnectToTargetService 'JOHNNY'
 password file
'JOHNNY\SYS:TIVOLI/TSM/CLIENT/68f5fb04.PWD'.
 Userid = '..'
 failed with cc = FFFDFFD7

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Re: Automate NT client

[John Underdown]

There's problem with the silent install, see:

http://www.tivoli.com/asktivoli/data/cleanapars/IC27/IC27909

Here's my work-around, it isn't pretty and uses brut force (maybe you can refine it) 
but has worked so far You'll need to tweak for your environment. If you have any 
questions, please let me know.

john underdown
Synovus Technologies, Inc.

Soon.exe, shutdown.exe, and etc are from NT Resource kit, see rktools.hlp for details 
on these utilities. Make sure scheduler service running with an account that has 
rights to do all this. Interesting enough, the first reboot of the installation is to 
install the MS Install software. I'm assuming the NT srevers desktops are logged off 
to begin with.

tsminstal.cmd
rem copy down ntreskit utilities from TSM server
copy \\sti_adsm\download\autolog\soon.exe %windir%
copy \\sti_adsm\download\autolog\shutdown.exe %windir%
copy \\sti_adsm\download\autolog\regini.exe %windir%
copy \\sti_adsm\download\autolog\kill.exe %windir%
copy \\sti_adsm\download\autolog\tlist.exe %windir%
rem setup for first reboot
soon 600 \\sti_adsm\download\autolog\reboot1.cmd
rem setup for auto logon 
regini \\sti_adsm\download\autolog\autolog1.ini
rem start install which is on TSM server
\\sti_adsm\download\tsmnt411\setup /s /v/qn

reboot1.cmd
rem setup for second reboot
soon 600 \\sti_adsm\download\autolog\reboot2.cmd
shutdown /l /r /y /c

reboot2.cmd
rem turn off auto logon
regini \\sti_adsm\download\autolog\autolog0.ini
rem Kill "HTML Help 1.31 install program" due to bug
kill msi*.tmp
Rem that's it, lets get out of here
shutdown /l /r /y /c
-
autolog1.ini
\Registry\Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
DefaultUserName = REG_SZ  Administrator
DefaultDomainName = REG_SZ mydomain
AutoAdminLogon = REG_SZ 1
DefaultPassword = REG_SZ 

autolog0.ini
\Registry\Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
AutoAdminLogon = REG_SZ 0
DefaultPassword = REG_SZ 

You can setup TSM schedule service at the same time by calling this batch file:

mksched.cmd
rem first setup domain account  with password tivoli
rem run in tsm's baclient directory
cd "\program files\tivoli\tsm\baclient"
dsmcutil remove /name:"TSM Client Scheduler"
dsmcutil install /name:"TSM Client Scheduler" /node:%computername% /password:*** 
/ntaccount:backup /ntdomain:mydomain /ntpassword:tivoli /autostart:yes