BRM Question

2001-05-21 Thread Mike Glassman - Admin

All,

We just had a meeting with our support people for TSM, regarding finishing
the project we have.

To cut things short, one of the options we required was Bare Metal Restore
of NT and Unix servers.

Our TSM server sits on an NT server.

We were just informed (and this is what I want to ask about) that the BRM
server (TSM) module, does not operate if the TSM server is on an NT server.
(As I understand from their explanation, there is the TSM server side module
and the client module).

So in effect, we cannot impliment BRM due to this factor.

Does anyone know if this is true ?

Mike Glassman
System & Security Admin
Israeli Airports Authority
Ben-Gurion Airport
http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il

Tel : 972-3-9710785
Fax : 972-3-9710939
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the
purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is
illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be
prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.



Re: BRM Question

2001-05-21 Thread Palmadesso Jack

I thought he may be refering to the new and improved BMR from the Kernel
Group.  We are going to be looking at this shortly.  The old BMR restore
where you had to boot with an OS/2 diskette was not something we used.

-Original Message-
From: Serein, Gilbert Claudio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BRM Question


Hi Mike, my TSM server runs on NT and I've done BMR's to NT servers
Without any problems. There are detail instructions how to accomplish a
Successful BMR at   http://www.coderelief.com <http://www.coderelief.com> .


Regards
Gilbert

-Original Message-
From:   Mike Glassman - Admin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, May 21, 2001 10:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:BRM Question

All,

We just had a meeting with our support people for TSM, regarding
finishing
the project we have.

To cut things short, one of the options we required was Bare Metal
Restore
of NT and Unix servers.

Our TSM server sits on an NT server.

We were just informed (and this is what I want to ask about) that
the BRM
server (TSM) module, does not operate if the TSM server is on an NT
server.
(As I understand from their explanation, there is the TSM server
side module
and the client module).

So in effect, we cannot impliment BRM due to this factor.

Does anyone know if this is true ?

Mike Glassman
System & Security Admin
Israeli Airports Authority
Ben-Gurion Airport
http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il

Tel : 972-3-9710785
Fax : 972-3-9710939
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for
the
purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage,
is
illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will
be
prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.



Re: BRM Question

2001-05-21 Thread Serein, Gilbert Claudio

Hi Mike, my TSM server runs on NT and I've done BMR's to NT servers
Without any problems. There are detail instructions how to accomplish a
Successful BMR at   http://www.coderelief.com <http://www.coderelief.com> .


Regards
Gilbert

-Original Message-
From:   Mike Glassman - Admin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, May 21, 2001 10:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:BRM Question

All,

We just had a meeting with our support people for TSM, regarding
finishing
the project we have.

To cut things short, one of the options we required was Bare Metal
Restore
of NT and Unix servers.

Our TSM server sits on an NT server.

We were just informed (and this is what I want to ask about) that
the BRM
server (TSM) module, does not operate if the TSM server is on an NT
server.
(As I understand from their explanation, there is the TSM server
side module
and the client module).

So in effect, we cannot impliment BRM due to this factor.

Does anyone know if this is true ?

Mike Glassman
System & Security Admin
Israeli Airports Authority
Ben-Gurion Airport
http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il

Tel : 972-3-9710785
Fax : 972-3-9710939
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for
the
purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage,
is
illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will
be
prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.



Re: BRM Question

2001-05-21 Thread rh

I believe the BMR server is only supported on an HP,
AIX, or Solaris platform (Unix). You will need a Unix
machine to support BMR.
Rod Hroblak
ADP
--- Mike Glassman - Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All,
>
> We just had a meeting with our support people for
> TSM, regarding finishing
> the project we have.
>
> To cut things short, one of the options we required
> was Bare Metal Restore
> of NT and Unix servers.
>
> Our TSM server sits on an NT server.
>
> We were just informed (and this is what I want to
> ask about) that the BRM
> server (TSM) module, does not operate if the TSM
> server is on an NT server.
> (As I understand from their explanation, there is
> the TSM server side module
> and the client module).
>
> So in effect, we cannot impliment BRM due to this
> factor.
>
> Does anyone know if this is true ?
>
> Mike Glassman
> System & Security Admin
> Israeli Airports Authority
> Ben-Gurion Airport
> http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il
>
> Tel : 972-3-9710785
> Fax : 972-3-9710939
> Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Usage of this email address or any email address at
> iaa.gov.il for the
> purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such
> unwanted garbage, is
> illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone
> doing so, will be
> prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.


__
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Re: BRM Question

2001-05-22 Thread Ray Schafer

Mike,

This is NOT true. While it is true that the Bare Metal Restore Main Server must
sit on a UNIX machine (AIX, Solaris, or HP), it does not matter to BMR what type
of platform is used for the TSM server - so long as TCP/IP communications are
used between the BMR Server and the TSM server, and the TSM Clients and the TSM
server.  There is a FAQ available for BMR, as well as other documentation on the
TKG website: http://www.tkg.com/bmr/tsm.


Mike Glassman - Admin wrote:

> All,
>
> We just had a meeting with our support people for TSM, regarding finishing
> the project we have.
>
> To cut things short, one of the options we required was Bare Metal Restore
> of NT and Unix servers.
>
> Our TSM server sits on an NT server.
>
> We were just informed (and this is what I want to ask about) that the BRM
> server (TSM) module, does not operate if the TSM server is on an NT server.
> (As I understand from their explanation, there is the TSM server side module
> and the client module).
>
> So in effect, we cannot impliment BRM due to this factor.
>
> Does anyone know if this is true ?
>
> Mike Glassman
> System & Security Admin
> Israeli Airports Authority
> Ben-Gurion Airport
> http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il
>
> Tel : 972-3-9710785
> Fax : 972-3-9710939
> Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the
> purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is
> illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be
> prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.


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Re: BRM Question

2001-05-22 Thread Rob Schroeder

Does BMR support Win2000?

Rob
Famous Footwear



Re: BRM Question

2001-05-22 Thread Mike Glassman - Admin

Ray,

The terminolagy then is wrong as per what they explained, but I am still
left in a situation when I need an additional UNIX based machine for the BMR
main server.

Do you have plans to bring out a version that sits on an NT machine, so that
I will not need to include another OS in my backup server cluster ? I really
can't go to management and sell this to them.

Mike

> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Schafer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: â îàé 22 2001 15:24
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: BRM Question
> 
> Mike,
> 
> This is NOT true. While it is true that the Bare Metal Restore Main Server
> must
> sit on a UNIX machine (AIX, Solaris, or HP), it does not matter to BMR
> what type
> of platform is used for the TSM server - so long as TCP/IP communications
> are
> used between the BMR Server and the TSM server, and the TSM Clients and
> the TSM
> server.  There is a FAQ available for BMR, as well as other documentation
> on the
> TKG website: http://www.tkg.com/bmr/tsm.
> 
> 
> Mike Glassman - Admin wrote:
> 
> > All,
> >
> > We just had a meeting with our support people for TSM, regarding
> finishing
> > the project we have.
> >
> > To cut things short, one of the options we required was Bare Metal
> Restore
> > of NT and Unix servers.
> >
> > Our TSM server sits on an NT server.
> >
> > We were just informed (and this is what I want to ask about) that the
> BRM
> > server (TSM) module, does not operate if the TSM server is on an NT
> server.
> > (As I understand from their explanation, there is the TSM server side
> module
> > and the client module).
> >
> > So in effect, we cannot impliment BRM due to this factor.
> >
> > Does anyone know if this is true ?
> >
> > Mike Glassman
> > System & Security Admin
> > Israeli Airports Authority
> > Ben-Gurion Airport
> > http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il
> >
> > Tel : 972-3-9710785
> > Fax : 972-3-9710939
> > Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the
> > purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is
> > illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be
> > prosecuted to the fullest possible extent. << File: Card for Ray Schafer
> >> 



Re: BRM Question

2001-05-22 Thread Jeff Rankin

BMR looks like a decent product, but the one thing that I didn't see
any mention of in the product documentation is what happens if you have
a total data center disaster?  Everything assumes that you have the BMR
server on the network and working correctly, but in a data center
disaster that server would be gone as well.  Disaster Recovery Manager
would take care of restoring your TSM server, but how does one handle
recovering the BMR server?  Anyone experienced this?

--
Jeff Rankin
Associate Technical Analyst, Excel Corporation
Email:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: May 22, 2001 8:24 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: BRM Question
>
>
> Mike,
>
> This is NOT true. While it is true that the Bare Metal
> Restore Main Server must
> sit on a UNIX machine (AIX, Solaris, or HP), it does not
> matter to BMR what type
> of platform is used for the TSM server - so long as TCP/IP
> communications are
> used between the BMR Server and the TSM server, and the TSM
> Clients and the TSM
> server.  There is a FAQ available for BMR, as well as other
> documentation on the
> TKG website: http://www.tkg.com/bmr/tsm.
>
>
> Mike Glassman - Admin wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > We just had a meeting with our support people for TSM,
> regarding finishing
> > the project we have.
> >
> > To cut things short, one of the options we required was
> Bare Metal Restore
> > of NT and Unix servers.
> >
> > Our TSM server sits on an NT server.
> >
> > We were just informed (and this is what I want to ask
> about) that the BRM
> > server (TSM) module, does not operate if the TSM server is
> on an NT server.
> > (As I understand from their explanation, there is the TSM
> server side module
> > and the client module).
> >
> > So in effect, we cannot impliment BRM due to this factor.
> >
> > Does anyone know if this is true ?
> >
> > Mike Glassman
> > System & Security Admin
> > Israeli Airports Authority
> > Ben-Gurion Airport
> > http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il
> >
> > Tel : 972-3-9710785
> > Fax : 972-3-9710939
> > Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Usage of this email address or any email address at
> iaa.gov.il for the
> > purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted
> garbage, is
> > illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing
> so, will be
> > prosecuted to the fullest possible extent.
>



Re: BRM Question

2001-05-22 Thread Ray Schafer

It will - in early August the next version of BMR will be
released and will support Windows 2000.

Rob Schroeder wrote:

> Does BMR support Win2000?
>
> Rob
> Famous Footwear


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Re: BRM Question

2001-05-24 Thread Ray Schafer

Mike,

The BMR Server currently will not run on an NT machine.  There are inexpensive
UNIX boxes on the market that will easily hold a BMR Server, so this might be a
vaible option yet. While porting the BMR Server to Windows NT (or 2000) is in
our product plan, we have not yet set a release date for it. The requirements of
our customers and potential customers are always important to us.


Mike Glassman - Admin wrote:

> Ray,
>
> The terminolagy then is wrong as per what they explained, but I am still
> left in a situation when I need an additional UNIX based machine for the BMR
> main server.
>
> Do you have plans to bring out a version that sits on an NT machine, so that
> I will not need to include another OS in my backup server cluster ? I really
> can't go to management and sell this to them.
>
> Mike
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ray Schafer [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: b n`i 22 2001 15:24
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:  Re: BRM Question
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > This is NOT true. While it is true that the Bare Metal Restore Main Server
> > must
> > sit on a UNIX machine (AIX, Solaris, or HP), it does not matter to BMR
> > what type
> > of platform is used for the TSM server - so long as TCP/IP communications
> > are
> > used between the BMR Server and the TSM server, and the TSM Clients and
> > the TSM
> > server.  There is a FAQ available for BMR, as well as other documentation
> > on the
> > TKG website: http://www.tkg.com/bmr/tsm.
> >
> >
> > Mike Glassman - Admin wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > We just had a meeting with our support people for TSM, regarding
> > finishing
> > > the project we have.
> > >
> > > To cut things short, one of the options we required was Bare Metal
> > Restore
> > > of NT and Unix servers.
> > >
> > > Our TSM server sits on an NT server.
> > >
> > > We were just informed (and this is what I want to ask about) that the
> > BRM
> > > server (TSM) module, does not operate if the TSM server is on an NT
> > server.
> > > (As I understand from their explanation, there is the TSM server side
> > module
> > > and the client module).
> > >
> > > So in effect, we cannot impliment BRM due to this factor.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if this is true ?
> > >
> > > Mike Glassman
> > > System & Security Admin
> > > Israeli Airports Authority
> > > Ben-Gurion Airport
> > > http://www.ben-gurion-airport.co.il
> > >
> > > Tel : 972-3-9710785
> > > Fax : 972-3-9710939
> > > Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Usage of this email address or any email address at iaa.gov.il for the
> > > purpose of sales pitches, SPAM or any other such unwanted garbage, is
> > > illegal, and any person, whether corporate or alone doing so, will be
> > > prosecuted to the fullest possible extent. << File: Card for Ray Schafer
> > >>


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