Re: Exchange 2000 and TSM's TDP for Exchange
Tony, 1.) Backup up the users individual mailbox (brick level) directly to a PST file, so that I do not have to have a hot spare and so that I do NOT have to use Exmerge. [if this is true, then all I would need to do is make the PST available for the user to import into Outlook and they could copy up the folder/messages themselves] Data Protection 5.1.5 included a document (BRICKBACK.DOC), sample scripts and sample configuration files (ExMerge.INI and DSM.OPT). The document describes a Brick-Level solution utilizing a combination of of ExMerge (export to .PST file) and the TSM BA client to back up the .PST file to the TSM Server. It also documents how to use the TSM BA Client subfile backup feature so that only the changes to the mailbox (generally speaking.. new and changed mail) are backed up to the TSM Server. The document and scripts are included in the Data Protection for Exchange 5.1.5 package since it is the Exchange customers that use this solution. The Data Protection for Exchange product executables are not used in the brick-level solution. Yes, the documented solution does require additional disk, but it does work, and has a good side effect of a local quick cache of .PST files for those item level restores you get hit up for. Also, don't forget about the deleted item restore feature in Exchange 5.5 SP3+ and the deleted item restore and deleted mailbox restore features Exchange 2000. Also, with Exchange 2003, Microsoft has added a special Recovery Storage Group that will allow you to restore a database into a separate location, not affecting the current users, and use ExMerge to get access to the things you need. 2.) Other than allowing a online hot backup of the database, what does the TDP do for me if I have to restore a users Inbox or message With Data Protection for Exchange you can always restore the databases to an alternate server to get access to what you want. But.. keep in mind... customers that use brick-level solutions also need to use standard online backup solutions (like Data Protection for Exchange) since there is no brick-level solution that will be able to recover your *entire* Exchange Server in the event of a serious Exchange server corruption... and even if some brick-level solution could get close, any fairly large Exchange server restored via brick-level would take a very, very long time. I hope this helps. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Remember that the best job security is doing a job well and doing it cheerfully.
Re: Exchange 2000
We use TSM and TDP to backup our exchange servers. We have not had any major problems with it. -Original Message- From: Mark Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Exchange 2000 We are investigating using TSM/ exchange TDP to back up our Exchange servers. I would like to know if there are a number of organizations that use TSM to back up Exchange and if there are any items that I need to be aware of. We will be doing a test run soon. We currently use TSM are our primary backup solution.
Re: Exchange 2000
3.How many people are experiencing Memory Errors when doing so? Scott, This is a known issue with the Microsoft Exchange server. Microsoft found a problem and are currently in the process of putting out a Q article and a hotfix. Here is a quote from the Microsoft Escalation Engineer that we have been working with: Throughout the troubleshooting process for this issue, we did manage to uncover and fix a memory leak in our ESE Backup and Restore APIs, which is scheduled for inclusion in Exchange 2000 Service Pack 2 (and a pre-SP2 hotfix is forthcoming very shortly). We will have two KB articles for this issue: Q306283, XADM: Exchange 2000 Information Store leaks memory when backed up remotely, which alerts the public to this issue, and Q306177, XADM: Exchange 2000 Information Store leaks memory when backed up remotely, which will contain the same information as Q306283, in addition to the hotfix build number information for the updated eseback2.dll. Unfortunately, I cannot distribute draft versions of unpublished Knowledge Base articles prior to publishing (due to company policy). If your other customers are encountering this issue, please have them contact Microsoft Product Support Services so we can properly track their issue, and distribute hotfixes to the affected customers accordingly. The contact information for Microsoft Product Support Services can be found at http://support.microsoft.com/directory/.; Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exchange 2000 and TSM
Kelly, "Unofficially" speaking... ...we are targeting Q1 2001. As usual...no promises. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Kelly J. Lipp" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 12/04/2000 02:42:04 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Exchange 2000 and TSM Folks, Is there an official / unofficial statement regarding TDP for Exchange 2000? I'm looking for an ETA if possible. Thanks, Kelly J. Lipp Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc. PO Box 51313 Colorado Springs CO 80949-1313 (719) 531-5926 Fax: (719) 260-5991 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.storsol.com www.storserver.com
Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up
I couldn't resist commenting on this subject, again! So here it goes A few months ago we were getting abit annoyed with TSM and called in some vendors to looks at their backup products. One was Veritas, who we all know, another was CommVault which was spun off from Lucent. CommVault apparently is in bed with Microsoft, and living in sin I suppose. Their strategy is windows 2000 centric and they make some bold claims about restoring individual Exchange mailboxes. I strongly suspect that they have some inside advantage with Microsoft and Tivoli is being kept at bay. Check out their claims at: http://galaxy.commvault.com/products_sub.asp?id=63 Now, with that said I must say that I did not like the CommVault database schema and their DR solution and Tivoli wised up and fixed the TSM issues we had. I strongly suspect that Microsoft has more than a "partnership" with CommVault. But I hate Microsoft anyway so judge for yourself. Good Luck - CR __ Cris Robinson Storage Engineering Information Technology Services Support Liberty Mutual Insurance Portsmouth, New Hampshire 603.245.4837 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Del Hoobler [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up Mehdi, The procedure for restoring a mailbox within Exchange 2000 will be to restore the database within the Storage Group that contains the mailbox. If you are asking about brick-level backup and restore. Then no. In fact, a Microsoft Exchange project manager was asked about when the Microsoft APIs would allow this in the future... ...and his answer was there were no plans to add this to the backup and restore API. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Amini, Mehdi" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 10/03/2000 11:30:04 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up Will Exchange 2000 TDP allow for individual Mailbox restore ? Mehdi Amini ValueOptions, MIS/LAN 703-208-8754 - Voice 703-205-6879 - Fax
Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up
Cris, et. al, Microsoft DOES NOT have mailbox/item level backup and restore APIs for any version of Exchange including the new Exchange 2000 coming out this month. They repeated this to many customers at the latest Microsoft Backup BAM in Redmond last week. There are vendors who have coded solutions using APIs (like MAPI) that are not intended for backup and restore. These solutions tend to take large amounts of time for backups and full restores... (Try restoring a 50Gig IS or storage group from an item level backup and restore.) Microsoft themselves claims that they have tried to come up with a way to provide some type of item level restore support via the backup and restore APIs but have not succeeded because of the architecture of the JET database (the database that is the heart of Exchange.) Microsoft contends that customers should take advantage of deleted item level recovery and the new deleted mailbox level recovery of Exchange 2000 to solve these problems. Not that I need to say this...but before making any decisions... ...customers should install and evaluate the complete solution before committing to any particular product. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cris Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 10/04/2000 10:25:54 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up I couldn't resist commenting on this subject, again! So here it goes A few months ago we were getting abit annoyed with TSM and called in some vendors to looks at their backup products. One was Veritas, who we all know, another was CommVault which was spun off from Lucent. CommVault apparently is in bed with Microsoft, and living in sin I suppose. Their strategy is windows 2000 centric and they make some bold claims about restoring individual Exchange mailboxes. I strongly suspect that they have some inside advantage with Microsoft and Tivoli is being kept at bay. Check out their claims at: http://galaxy.commvault.com/products_sub.asp?id=63 Now, with that said I must say that I did not like the CommVault database schema and their DR solution and Tivoli wised up and fixed the TSM issues we had. I strongly suspect that Microsoft has more than a "partnership" with CommVault. But I hate Microsoft anyway so judge for yourself. Good Luck - CR __ Cris Robinson Storage Engineering Information Technology Services Support Liberty Mutual Insurance Portsmouth, New Hampshire 603.245.4837 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-followup
Mehdi, Look back at the yesterday's appends. I answered this already. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Amini, Mehdi" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 10/04/2000 10:51:50 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Exchange 2000 TDP-followup Will Exchange 2000 TDP allow for individual Mailbox restore ? Mehdi Amini ValueOptions, MIS/LAN 703-208-8754 - Voice 703-205-6879 - Fax
Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up
I hope we are not making Del's job a living hell ;-) Most of us are as tired of these claims as Del is and I must say that I have no ill will towards Tivoli and their approach to the backup/restore of Exchange. In all fairness I am always suspicious of other vendors claims that they have mailbox level restore capabilities. I just hope that Microsoft is using a level playing field. Anyway, Thanks Del! CR __ Cris Robinson Storage Engineering Information Technology Services Support Liberty Mutual Insurance Portsmouth, New Hampshire 603.245.4837 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Del Hoobler [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 11:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up Cris, et. al, Microsoft DOES NOT have mailbox/item level backup and restore APIs for any version of Exchange including the new Exchange 2000 coming out this month. They repeated this to many customers at the latest Microsoft Backup BAM in Redmond last week. There are vendors who have coded solutions using APIs (like MAPI) that are not intended for backup and restore. These solutions tend to take large amounts of time for backups and full restores... (Try restoring a 50Gig IS or storage group from an item level backup and restore.) Microsoft themselves claims that they have tried to come up with a way to provide some type of item level restore support via the backup and restore APIs but have not succeeded because of the architecture of the JET database (the database that is the heart of Exchange.) Microsoft contends that customers should take advantage of deleted item level recovery and the new deleted mailbox level recovery of Exchange 2000 to solve these problems. Not that I need to say this...but before making any decisions... ...customers should install and evaluate the complete solution before committing to any particular product. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cris Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 10/04/2000 10:25:54 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up I couldn't resist commenting on this subject, again! So here it goes A few months ago we were getting abit annoyed with TSM and called in some vendors to looks at their backup products. One was Veritas, who we all know, another was CommVault which was spun off from Lucent. CommVault apparently is in bed with Microsoft, and living in sin I suppose. Their strategy is windows 2000 centric and they make some bold claims about restoring individual Exchange mailboxes. I strongly suspect that they have some inside advantage with Microsoft and Tivoli is being kept at bay. Check out their claims at: http://galaxy.commvault.com/products_sub.asp?id=63 Now, with that said I must say that I did not like the CommVault database schema and their DR solution and Tivoli wised up and fixed the TSM issues we had. I strongly suspect that Microsoft has more than a "partnership" with CommVault. But I hate Microsoft anyway so judge for yourself. Good Luck - CR __ Cris Robinson Storage Engineering Information Technology Services Support Liberty Mutual Insurance Portsmouth, New Hampshire 603.245.4837 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up
Here is something from the archives I've dug up. Jack -- This question was also asked at Microsoft Exchange Conference '99 and Microsoft addressed it by saying that they hold their position to NOT introduce it into the "backup and restore" API because of performance issues and having to break their architecture. They have chosen to take the following steps when it comes to restoring individual items to alleviate the problem: - Exchange 5.5 SP3 - Deleted item retention - Exchange 2000 - Deleted mailbox retention - Exchange 2000 - Introduction of storage groups that split the IS into up to 90 databases. It allows you to manage those db's separately...including restoring individual databases without affecting other databases. -Original Message- From: Amini, Mehdi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up Will Exchange 2000 TDP allow for individual Mailbox restore ? Mehdi Amini ValueOptions, MIS/LAN 703-208-8754 - Voice 703-205-6879 - Fax ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by email and delete and destroy this message and its attachments. **
Re: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up
Mehdi, The procedure for restoring a mailbox within Exchange 2000 will be to restore the database within the Storage Group that contains the mailbox. If you are asking about brick-level backup and restore. Then no. In fact, a Microsoft Exchange project manager was asked about when the Microsoft APIs would allow this in the future... ...and his answer was there were no plans to add this to the backup and restore API. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Amini, Mehdi" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 10/03/2000 11:30:04 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Exchange 2000 TDP-follow-up Will Exchange 2000 TDP allow for individual Mailbox restore ? Mehdi Amini ValueOptions, MIS/LAN 703-208-8754 - Voice 703-205-6879 - Fax
Re: Exchange 2000 TDP
Mehdi, We are targeting Q1 2001. As usual...no promises. Thanks, Del Del Hoobler IBM Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Amini, Mehdi" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 09/22/2000 11:44:42 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Exchange 2000 TDP When is the planned release date of Connect Agent for Exchange 2000 Mehdi Amini ValueOptions, MIS/LAN 703-208-8754 - Voice 703-205-6879 - Fax
