copygroups
Is there a way to tell if a given copygroup is actually being used on TSM 6.2.2? David Ehresman
Re: copygroups
AFAIK, the only way is to search the BACKUPS table. OK idea if you can narrow the search to a single client at a time; bad idea otherwise. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David E Ehresman Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:22 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] copygroups Is there a way to tell if a given copygroup is actually being used on TSM 6.2.2? David Ehresman
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If a session tries to use a non-existent copygroup, does it fail or does it use the default for that management class? David Prather, Wanda wprat...@icfi.com 7/14/2011 1:12 PM AFAIK, the only way is to search the BACKUPS table. OK idea if you can narrow the search to a single client at a time; bad idea otherwise. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David E Ehresman Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:22 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] copygroups Is there a way to tell if a given copygroup is actually being used on TSM 6.2.2? David Ehresman
Re: copygroups
It should bind to the default management class I think. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David E Ehresman Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 4:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: copygroups If a session tries to use a non-existent copygroup, does it fail or does it use the default for that management class? David Prather, Wanda wprat...@icfi.com 7/14/2011 1:12 PM AFAIK, the only way is to search the BACKUPS table. OK idea if you can narrow the search to a single client at a time; bad idea otherwise. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David E Ehresman Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:22 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] copygroups Is there a way to tell if a given copygroup is actually being used on TSM 6.2.2? David Ehresman
Re: copygroups
On my TSM 5.5 server, 6.2.1 Windows client: I just tried to do an archive from a client in a domain after deleting the archive copy group from the applicable mgmt. class. Result was failure: ANS1264E The active policy set does not contain any archive copy group. The arch ive operation cannot continue.tsm W -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David E Ehresman Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 4:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] copygroups If a session tries to use a non-existent copygroup, does it fail or does it use the default for that management class? David Prather, Wanda wprat...@icfi.com 7/14/2011 1:12 PM AFAIK, the only way is to search the BACKUPS table. OK idea if you can narrow the search to a single client at a time; bad idea otherwise. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David E Ehresman Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:22 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] copygroups Is there a way to tell if a given copygroup is actually being used on TSM 6.2.2? David Ehresman
Re: copygroups
On Oct 3, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Avy Wong wrote: Hello, Is there a command that list all the servers with all their copygroup information. I understand that 'q copygroup' give me a list of all the PO, Mgmt...and their versions. Is there a way to list the server names on it too? Thanks. Avy - I think you mean TSM clients, rather than servers... This gets back to TSM concepts, where individual file system objects are bound to management classes according to explicit Include specifications, or implicit TSM rules; and the Include specification of management class can change over time. Thus, a given client may have objects bound to a variety of management classes. There is no TSM concept of a client itself being bound to a management class or copy group. From the client, you can query sample backup or archive objects to get a representative sense of what management class they are using, currently. Richard Sims
Re: copygroups
Avy, I am fairly new to TSM (and this list) but I recently had a similar request here asking for nodes, domains, and retention. This is a modified version of the select statement: SELECT aa.node_name, aa.schedule_name, bu.domain_name, bu.retextra, bu.retonly, bu.domain_name, bu.set_name, bu.class_name, bu.copygroup_name, bu.verexists, bu.verdeleted, bu.mode, bu.serialization, bu.frequency, bu.destination, bu.toc_destination, bu.chg_time, bu.chg_admin, bu.profile FROM associations aa, bu_copygroups bu WHERE aa.domain_name=bu.domain_name AND bu.set_name='ACTIVE' Humberto Castro BNP Paribas RCC Data Protection Engineer Core IT Production Office: 201.850.5703 Mobile: 917.254.8904 Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 10/03/2007 03:51 PM Please respond to ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L cc Subject [ADSM-L] copygroups Hello, Is there a command that list all the servers with all their copygroup information. I understand that 'q copygroup' give me a list of all the PO, Mgmt...and their versions. Is there a way to list the server names on it too? Thanks. Avy Wong Business Continuity Administrator Mohegan Sun 1 Mohegan Sun Blvd Uncasville, CT 06382 (860)862-8164 (cell) (860)961-6976 ** The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** This message and any attachments (the message) is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. BNP PARIBAS (and its subsidiaries) shall (will) not therefore be liable for the message if modified. Please note that certain functions and services for BNP Paribas may be performed by BNP Paribas RCC, Inc.
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Thank you Richard and Humberto. The list gives me a whole view of all the clients which are bound to the mgmt class or copygroup and makes it easier to reference. Thanks again...(o: Avy Wong Business Continuity Administrator Mohegan Sun 1 Mohegan Sun Blvd Uncasville, CT 06382 (860)862-8164 (cell) (860)961-6976 [EMAIL PROTECTED] MERICAS.BNPPARIBA S.COM To Sent by: ADSM: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Dist Stor cc Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU Re: [ADSM-L] copygroups 10/04/2007 10:37 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU Avy, I am fairly new to TSM (and this list) but I recently had a similar request here asking for nodes, domains, and retention. This is a modified version of the select statement: SELECT aa.node_name, aa.schedule_name, bu.domain_name, bu.retextra, bu.retonly, bu.domain_name, bu.set_name, bu.class_name, bu.copygroup_name, bu.verexists, bu.verdeleted, bu.mode, bu.serialization, bu.frequency, bu.destination, bu.toc_destination, bu.chg_time, bu.chg_admin, bu.profile FROM associations aa, bu_copygroups bu WHERE aa.domain_name=bu.domain_name AND bu.set_name='ACTIVE' Humberto Castro BNP Paribas RCC Data Protection Engineer Core IT Production Office: 201.850.5703 Mobile: 917.254.8904 Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 10/03/2007 03:51 PM Please respond to ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L cc Subject [ADSM-L] copygroups Hello, Is there a command that list all the servers with all their copygroup information. I understand that 'q copygroup' give me a list of all the PO, Mgmt...and their versions. Is there a way to list the server names on it too? Thanks. Avy Wong Business Continuity Administrator Mohegan Sun 1 Mohegan Sun Blvd Uncasville, CT 06382 (860)862-8164 (cell) (860)961-6976 ** The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** This message and any attachments (the message) is intended solely for the addressees and is confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any use not in accord with its purpose, any dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, is prohibited except formal approval. The internet can not guarantee the integrity of this message. BNP PARIBAS (and its subsidiaries) shall (will) not therefore be liable for the message if modified. Please note that certain functions and services for BNP Paribas may be performed by BNP Paribas RCC, Inc. ** The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. **
copygroups
Hello, Is there a command that list all the servers with all their copygroup information. I understand that 'q copygroup' give me a list of all the PO, Mgmt...and their versions. Is there a way to list the server names on it too? Thanks. Avy Wong Business Continuity Administrator Mohegan Sun 1 Mohegan Sun Blvd Uncasville, CT 06382 (860)862-8164 (cell) (860)961-6976 ** The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. **
Re: copygroups
thanks Wanda for you help! - Original Message - From: Prather, Wanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, November 15, 2004 2:54 pm Subject: Re: copygroups Not right. Your Sequential Access Storage pool should be LTOPOOL. RMTPOOL should be defined as a COPY pool, not a PRIMARY pool. IN the GUI, go to Object View - Server Storage - Storage Pools - Copy pools. Define it there. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: copygroups Wanda, I we have that set up already do I need to add something else? (see below) Thanks Storage Pool Name Description LTOPOOL LTO Tape Storage Pool RMTPOOL Pool for remote tapes Sequential Access Storage Pools : RMTPOOL Storage Pool Name RMTPOOL Storage Pool Type PRIMARY Device Class Name RMTCLASS Estimated Capacity (MB) 0.0 Pct Util 0.0 Pct Migr 0.0 Pct Logical 100.0 High Mig Pct 90 Low Mig Pct 70 Migration Processes 1 Next Storage Pool - Maximum Size Threshold - Access READWRITE Description Pool for remote tapes Overflow Location - Cache Migrated Files? - Collocate? YES Reclamation Threshold 25 Maximum Scratch Volumes Allowed 200 Delay Period for Volume Reuse 0 Migration in Progress? NO Amount Migrated (MB) 0.0 Elapsed Migration Time (seconds) 0 Reclamation in Progress? NO Volume Being Migrated/Reclaimed - Last Update Date/Time 2004-09-08 09:11:15.00 Last Update by (administrator) Reclaim Storage Pool - Migration Delay 0 Migration Continue YES Storage Pool Data Format Native Copy Storage Pool(s) - Continue Copy on Error? - CRC Data NO Prather, Wanda wrote: No, you are talking about COPY POOLS, not COPY GROUPS. Your SEQUENTIAL STORAGE POOL is defined with a DEVCLASS. The DEVCLASS points to the library, LTO_LIB. You will need a separate DEVCLASS defined that points to the second library, RMTTP_LTO. Then create your COPY POOL pointing to that DEVCLASS. Then in your SEQUENTIAL STORAGE POOL, add the COPYPOOL name. Then anytime something gets written to the sequential storage pool, it will get written to the copy pool, and the copy pool will be in the second library. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: copygroups We want to send a copy of a tape to the 2nd Library while writing to the first one at the same time. (duel tape write) Prather, Wanda wrote: TSM copy groups are the rule sets that determine how many versions of files are to be kept. What do you mean by copy groups? What are you trying to accomplish? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: copygroups I would like to put copy groups on our 2 Library It is already defined in aix, Would this work if I just point copy destination to rmttP_lto Tape Paths Source Name Source Type Destination Name Destination Type Library TSM SERVER LTO_LIB LIBRARY TSM SERVER RMT1 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT2 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT3 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT4 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMTTP_LTO LIBRARY TSM SERVER RMT5 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT6 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT7 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT8 DRIVE RMT_LTO Thanks in advance! TSM version 5.2.3.4 AIX 5.2
copygroups
I would like to put copy groups on our 2 Library It is already defined in aix, Would this work if I just point copy destination to rmttP_lto Tape Paths Source Name Source Type Destination Name Destination Type Library TSM SERVER LTO_LIB LIBRARY TSM SERVER RMT1 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT2 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT3 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT4 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMTTP_LTO LIBRARY TSM SERVER RMT5 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT6 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT7 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT8 DRIVE RMT_LTO Thanks in advance! TSM version 5.2.3.4 AIX 5.2
Re: copygroups
TSM copy groups are the rule sets that determine how many versions of files are to be kept. What do you mean by copy groups? What are you trying to accomplish? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: copygroups I would like to put copy groups on our 2 Library It is already defined in aix, Would this work if I just point copy destination to rmttP_lto Tape Paths Source Name Source Type Destination Name Destination Type Library TSM SERVER LTO_LIB LIBRARY TSM SERVER RMT1 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT2 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT3 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT4 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMTTP_LTO LIBRARY TSM SERVER RMT5 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT6 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT7 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT8 DRIVE RMT_LTO Thanks in advance! TSM version 5.2.3.4 AIX 5.2
Re: copygroups
We want to send a copy of a tape to the 2nd Library while writing to the first one at the same time. (duel tape write) Prather, Wanda wrote: TSM copy groups are the rule sets that determine how many versions of files are to be kept. What do you mean by copy groups? What are you trying to accomplish? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: copygroups I would like to put copy groups on our 2 Library It is already defined in aix, Would this work if I just point copy destination to rmttP_lto Tape Paths Source Name Source Type Destination Name Destination Type Library TSM SERVER LTO_LIB LIBRARY TSM SERVER RMT1 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT2 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT3 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT4 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMTTP_LTO LIBRARY TSM SERVER RMT5 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT6 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT7 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT8 DRIVE RMT_LTO Thanks in advance! TSM version 5.2.3.4 AIX 5.2
Re: copygroups
No, you are talking about COPY POOLS, not COPY GROUPS. Your SEQUENTIAL STORAGE POOL is defined with a DEVCLASS. The DEVCLASS points to the library, LTO_LIB. You will need a separate DEVCLASS defined that points to the second library, RMTTP_LTO. Then create your COPY POOL pointing to that DEVCLASS. Then in your SEQUENTIAL STORAGE POOL, add the COPYPOOL name. Then anytime something gets written to the sequential storage pool, it will get written to the copy pool, and the copy pool will be in the second library. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: copygroups We want to send a copy of a tape to the 2nd Library while writing to the first one at the same time. (duel tape write) Prather, Wanda wrote: TSM copy groups are the rule sets that determine how many versions of files are to be kept. What do you mean by copy groups? What are you trying to accomplish? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: copygroups I would like to put copy groups on our 2 Library It is already defined in aix, Would this work if I just point copy destination to rmttP_lto Tape Paths Source Name Source Type Destination Name Destination Type Library TSM SERVER LTO_LIB LIBRARY TSM SERVER RMT1 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT2 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT3 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT4 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMTTP_LTO LIBRARY TSM SERVER RMT5 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT6 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT7 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT8 DRIVE RMT_LTO Thanks in advance! TSM version 5.2.3.4 AIX 5.2
Re: copygroups
Wanda, I we have that set up already do I need to add something else? (see below) Thanks Storage Pool Name Description LTOPOOL LTO Tape Storage Pool RMTPOOL Pool for remote tapes Sequential Access Storage Pools : RMTPOOL Storage Pool Name RMTPOOL Storage Pool Type PRIMARY Device Class Name RMTCLASS Estimated Capacity (MB) 0.0 Pct Util 0.0 Pct Migr 0.0 Pct Logical 100.0 High Mig Pct 90 Low Mig Pct 70 Migration Processes 1 Next Storage Pool - Maximum Size Threshold - Access READWRITE Description Pool for remote tapes Overflow Location - Cache Migrated Files? - Collocate? YES Reclamation Threshold 25 Maximum Scratch Volumes Allowed 200 Delay Period for Volume Reuse 0 Migration in Progress? NO Amount Migrated (MB) 0.0 Elapsed Migration Time (seconds) 0 Reclamation in Progress? NO Volume Being Migrated/Reclaimed - Last Update Date/Time 2004-09-08 09:11:15.00 Last Update by (administrator) Reclaim Storage Pool - Migration Delay 0 Migration Continue YES Storage Pool Data Format Native Copy Storage Pool(s) - Continue Copy on Error? - CRC Data NO Prather, Wanda wrote: No, you are talking about COPY POOLS, not COPY GROUPS. Your SEQUENTIAL STORAGE POOL is defined with a DEVCLASS. The DEVCLASS points to the library, LTO_LIB. You will need a separate DEVCLASS defined that points to the second library, RMTTP_LTO. Then create your COPY POOL pointing to that DEVCLASS. Then in your SEQUENTIAL STORAGE POOL, add the COPYPOOL name. Then anytime something gets written to the sequential storage pool, it will get written to the copy pool, and the copy pool will be in the second library. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: copygroups We want to send a copy of a tape to the 2nd Library while writing to the first one at the same time. (duel tape write) Prather, Wanda wrote: TSM copy groups are the rule sets that determine how many versions of files are to be kept. What do you mean by copy groups? What are you trying to accomplish? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: copygroups I would like to put copy groups on our 2 Library It is already defined in aix, Would this work if I just point copy destination to rmttP_lto Tape Paths Source Name Source Type Destination Name Destination Type Library TSM SERVER LTO_LIB LIBRARY TSM SERVER RMT1 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT2 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT3 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT4 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMTTP_LTO LIBRARY TSM SERVER RMT5 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT6 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT7 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT8 DRIVE RMT_LTO Thanks in advance! TSM version 5.2.3.4 AIX 5.2
Re: copygroups
Not right. Your Sequential Access Storage pool should be LTOPOOL. RMTPOOL should be defined as a COPY pool, not a PRIMARY pool. IN the GUI, go to Object View - Server Storage - Storage Pools - Copy pools. Define it there. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: copygroups Wanda, I we have that set up already do I need to add something else? (see below) Thanks Storage Pool Name Description LTOPOOL LTO Tape Storage Pool RMTPOOL Pool for remote tapes Sequential Access Storage Pools : RMTPOOL Storage Pool Name RMTPOOL Storage Pool Type PRIMARY Device Class Name RMTCLASS Estimated Capacity (MB) 0.0 Pct Util 0.0 Pct Migr 0.0 Pct Logical 100.0 High Mig Pct 90 Low Mig Pct 70 Migration Processes 1 Next Storage Pool - Maximum Size Threshold - Access READWRITE Description Pool for remote tapes Overflow Location - Cache Migrated Files? - Collocate? YES Reclamation Threshold 25 Maximum Scratch Volumes Allowed 200 Delay Period for Volume Reuse 0 Migration in Progress? NO Amount Migrated (MB) 0.0 Elapsed Migration Time (seconds) 0 Reclamation in Progress? NO Volume Being Migrated/Reclaimed - Last Update Date/Time 2004-09-08 09:11:15.00 Last Update by (administrator) Reclaim Storage Pool - Migration Delay 0 Migration Continue YES Storage Pool Data Format Native Copy Storage Pool(s) - Continue Copy on Error? - CRC Data NO Prather, Wanda wrote: No, you are talking about COPY POOLS, not COPY GROUPS. Your SEQUENTIAL STORAGE POOL is defined with a DEVCLASS. The DEVCLASS points to the library, LTO_LIB. You will need a separate DEVCLASS defined that points to the second library, RMTTP_LTO. Then create your COPY POOL pointing to that DEVCLASS. Then in your SEQUENTIAL STORAGE POOL, add the COPYPOOL name. Then anytime something gets written to the sequential storage pool, it will get written to the copy pool, and the copy pool will be in the second library. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: copygroups We want to send a copy of a tape to the 2nd Library while writing to the first one at the same time. (duel tape write) Prather, Wanda wrote: TSM copy groups are the rule sets that determine how many versions of files are to be kept. What do you mean by copy groups? What are you trying to accomplish? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: copygroups I would like to put copy groups on our 2 Library It is already defined in aix, Would this work if I just point copy destination to rmttP_lto Tape Paths Source Name Source Type Destination Name Destination Type Library TSM SERVER LTO_LIB LIBRARY TSM SERVER RMT1 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT2 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT3 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMT4 DRIVE LTO_LIB TSM SERVER RMTTP_LTO LIBRARY TSM SERVER RMT5 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT6 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT7 DRIVE RMT_LTO TSM SERVER RMT8 DRIVE RMT_LTO Thanks in advance! TSM version 5.2.3.4 AIX 5.2
Antwort: Backup copygroups
Hallo Moses, I although have to make a daily and a monthly backup on the server with different retention periods. I solve the problem by creating to policy domains dayly_pd and monthly_pd where are different management classes. On the node I use two different nodes hostname_day and hostname_mon which are backed up in the responding policy domain with the responding management class. I have to use two dsm.opt files when i start the two schedulers Use export DSM_CONFIG=$DSM_DIR/dsm.opt or export DSM_CONFIG =$DSM_DIR/mon_dsm.opt in Script to start the two schedulers. mit freundlichen Grüßen Ralf Behrendt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 29.06.2004 18:00:44: Hi people, I have a burning question which hopefully somebody can provide an answer to. Have been asked to backup SQL servers daily using TSM . The details and instructions for how these backups are performed and any characteristics are contained in the respective management class of the policy set in the policy domain. I also need to backup these servers at monthend and some every five weeks. What I am trying to find out is if it is possible to have more than one backup copygroup under this management class. The reason is because the period backups will have different retention times to the dailys and possibly different retain only version values. Is it feasible to create two separate backup copygroups to manage this ? If so how would you get the server to differentiate between if a backup is run daily or at the end of periods. Once again any help would be gratefully received, examples would be even more gratefully received.
Backup copygroups
Hi people, I have a burning question which hopefully somebody can provide an answer to. Have been asked to backup SQL servers daily using TSM . The details and instructions for how these backups are performed and any characteristics are contained in the respective management class of the policy set in the policy domain. I also need to backup these servers at monthend and some every five weeks. What I am trying to find out is if it is possible to have more than one backup copygroup under this management class. The reason is because the period backups will have different retention times to the dailys and possibly different retain only version values. Is it feasible to create two separate backup copygroups to manage this ? If so how would you get the server to differentiate between if a backup is run daily or at the end of periods. Once again any help would be gratefully received, examples would be even more gratefully received. == This communication, together with any attachments hereto or links contained herein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is confidential or legally protected. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, disclosure, copying, dissemination, distribution or use of this communication is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail message and delete the original and all copies of the communication, along with any attachments hereto or links herein, from your system. == The St. Paul Travelers e-mail system made this annotation on 06/29/2004, 11:56:58 AM.
Re: Backup copygroups
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Moses Show Have been asked to backup SQL servers daily using TSM . The details and instructions for how these backups are performed and any characteristics are contained in the respective management class of the policy set in the policy domain. I also need to backup these servers at monthend and some every five weeks. What I am trying to find out is if it is possible to have more than one backup copygroup under this management class. The reason is because the period backups will have different retention times to the dailys and possibly different retain only version values. Is it feasible to create two separate backup copygroups to manage this ? If so how would you get the server to differentiate between if a backup is run daily or at the end of periods. No, you can't have multiple active copygroups for a given management class. What you'll need to do is create a second nodename (with its corresponding option file which points at a non-default management class). However, you might want to consider short-term archives of data, rather than backups. With that, you can use the ARCHMC flag to control archive destinations and retention. -- Mark Stapleton
Re: Backup copygroups
Mark, Data Protection for SQL does not support ARCHIVE. It only supports BACKUP. You can use a second NODENAME like you suggested or... you can also look into using SET type backups which get a unique name and can be bound to a separate management class. Thanks, Del ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/29/2004 12:24:56 PM: From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Moses Show Have been asked to backup SQL servers daily using TSM . The details and instructions for how these backups are performed and any characteristics are contained in the respective management class of the policy set in the policy domain. I also need to backup these servers at monthend and some every five weeks. What I am trying to find out is if it is possible to have more than one backup copygroup under this management class. The reason is because the period backups will have different retention times to the dailys and possibly different retain only version values. Is it feasible to create two separate backup copygroups to manage this ? If so how would you get the server to differentiate between if a backup is run daily or at the end of periods. No, you can't have multiple active copygroups for a given management class. What you'll need to do is create a second nodename (with its corresponding option file which points at a non-default management class). However, you might want to consider short-term archives of data, rather than backups. With that, you can use the ARCHMC flag to control archive destinations and retention. -- Mark Stapleton
Copygroups
How do you recommend setting up a management class that would allow me to retain backups for 60 days while allowing a PIT restore to any date within the past 60 days? I am thinking I should set the copygroup parameters VERExists, VERDeleted, RETExtra and RETOnly to 60. Does this seem correct? Thanks, Vint
Re: Copygroups
yes is correct, but you will know that in 60 days you can have a very lot of data depending of the level of change and renew for client't data. (60 x client_utilized_space ). --- Claudio Cofré Caro Ingeniero Especialista de Producto SA Consultores - Chile e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vint Maggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OV cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Copygroups Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 14-01-02 13:59 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager How do you recommend setting up a management class that would allow me to retain backups for 60 days while allowing a PIT restore to any date within the past 60 days? I am thinking I should set the copygroup parameters VERExists, VERDeleted, RETExtra and RETOnly to 60. Does this seem correct? Thanks, Vint
Re: Copygroups
How do you recommend setting up a management class that would allow me to retain backups for 60 days while allowing a PIT restore to any date within the past 60 days? I am thinking I should set the copygroup parameters VERExists, VERDeleted, RETExtra and RETOnly to 60. Does this seem correct? It's probably close. Deranged people such as myself might comment: * If you are doing weekly backups, these numbers are way too high. * If you sometimes do more than one backup in a day, the numbers could be too low. * If you want to do restores from the last 60 backups, 60 would be right for verexists, but 59 would be sufficient for verdeleted, etc. * It sort of depends on what you want to accomplish. Maybe a client expects 60 days to be 2 months. Maybe bump 60 a little. Maybe you backup every day, but client doesn't see a problem on weekends, so maybe bump 60 a little. Maybe client tries to restore today, runs out of time and comes to you tomorrow for help. Maybe bump 60 a little. Of course, if you can identify the files which need this PIT requirement, then considerable *SM DB and STGpool space and processing time might be saved if you have a special management class for the 60- copy files and something considerably less as standard ... but then the client risks making a poor decision. :-) cheers, wayne Wayne T. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] ADSM Technical Coordinator - UNET University of Maine System
Re: Copygroups
That's Ok as long as you never do more than one backup per day. If for example, you do a second backup, VEREXISTS=60 will cause the oldest one from 60 days ago to be deleted. To be absolutely safe, you need to code VEREXISTS= and VERDELETED=NOLIMIT. This is documented in the Administrator's Guide in a section dealing with PIT restores. Robin Sharpe Berlex Labs Vint Maggs vint.maggs@S RS.GOV To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Robin Sharpe/WA/USR/SHG) 01/14/02 Subject: 12:59 PM Copygroups Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager How do you recommend setting up a management class that would allow me to retain backups for 60 days while allowing a PIT restore to any date within the past 60 days? I am thinking I should set the copygroup parameters VERExists, VERDeleted, RETExtra and RETOnly to 60. Does this seem correct? Thanks, Vint
Re: Copygroups
How do you recommend setting up a management class that would allow me to retain backups for 60 days while allowing a PIT restore to any date within the past 60 days? I am thinking I should set the copygroup parameters VERExists, VERDeleted, RETExtra and RETOnly to 60. Does this seem correct? There was some discussion on this last year. In short, you would need: VEREXISTS=NOLIMIT VERDELETED=NOLIMIT RETEXTRA=60 RETONLY=60 Keep in mind that this means someone could make lots and lots of backups of a file, and all inactive copies will be kept for 60 days from the time they become inactive. In practice, this would most likely be fairly rare... but if you are concerned, you might set VEREXISTS and VERDELETED to 60 (or higher). But NOLIMIT this will guarantee the restorability you seek. If you set VEREXISTS and VERDELETED to 60, then this will guarantee the restorability provided that only one backup copy (at most) is made per day. If some files are backed up more than once a day, than you would need something higher than 60, i.e. 120 if up to two backup copies are made per day. For more information, you can check the ADSM-L archives at www.adsm.org., You'll find some (but not all) discussion about this if you use this search criteria: +raibeck +verexists +pit Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence.
