Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-10 Thread David Wheeler
On Aug 9, 2004, at 2:44 PM, Kenny Gatdula wrote:
Have you looked at blosxom? At first glance, it seems to have 
everything you're looking for.
http://www.blosxom.com/
FWIW, the forthcoming Blosxom 3.0 will run under mod_perl. I'll help 
Rael to make sure of it.

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson

Jeff Bisbee wrote:
* Perrin Harkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Glancing at the YAML docs, it looks like putting "" between those
would make them parseable as records, so maybe we'll use that after all.

YAML is _very_ buggy.
http://rt.cpan.org/NoAuth/Bugs.html?Dist=YAML
Also from the YAML POD...
WARNING: This is *ALPHA* code.
BIGGER WARNING: This is *TRIAL1* of the YAML 1.0 specification. The 
YAML syntax may change before it is finalized. Based on past 
experience, it probably will change. The authors of this spec have 
worked for over a year putting together YAML 1.0, and we have 
flipped it on it's syntactical head almost every week. We're a 
fickle lot, we are. So use this at your own risk!!!

Why not just keep it simple, and put text files in a directory and name
them (so you can easily determine order via sort glob)
$year-$month-$day-$hh$mm-filename_safe_headline
and then in the file, make almost e-mail-like
Author: Philippe M. Chiasson http://www.cnn.com/mod_perl_saved_my_life.html
Date: 2004-08-09
Story Image: http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/me.gif
Category: Success Stories
   <-- blank line
the abstract goes here... la la la
-
the rest of the story goes here la la la
I've just had a bad go with YAML a couple of times.  Thought it was the
best thing since sliced bread, until I dumped something to YAML
and couldn't load it :(
Well, as far as I am concerned, the actual format that's choosen will mostly
be important to the person that decided to implement the news system (perrin).
So I guess as long as it's simple and it's a simple format enough for Joe Anybody,
I think we should let perrin decide.
Perrin, any thought on this ? Maybe it's just a matter of arbitrarly picking the
simplest format we can think of YAML/Email and starting to implement something.
Reserving the option of moving to a different format later on down the road if
it becomes an issue ?
BTW, got my darn e-mail fixed... stupid default debian exim install was
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instead of the address in my "From:" header.
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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Kenny Gatdula
Perrin Harkins wrote:
Sure, with some small tweaks (add a date, remove separate story, remove
reference, change author icon to story image).  See http://php.net/ for
an idea of what I'm going for.
 

Have you looked at blosxom? At first glance, it seems to have everything 
you're looking for.
http://www.blosxom.com/

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Jeff Bisbee
* Perrin Harkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Glancing at the YAML docs, it looks like putting "" between those
> would make them parseable as records, so maybe we'll use that after all.

YAML is _very_ buggy.

http://rt.cpan.org/NoAuth/Bugs.html?Dist=YAML

Also from the YAML POD...

WARNING: This is *ALPHA* code.

BIGGER WARNING: This is *TRIAL1* of the YAML 1.0 specification. The 
YAML syntax may change before it is finalized. Based on past 
experience, it probably will change. The authors of this spec have 
worked for over a year putting together YAML 1.0, and we have 
flipped it on it's syntactical head almost every week. We're a 
fickle lot, we are. So use this at your own risk!!!

Why not just keep it simple, and put text files in a directory and name
them (so you can easily determine order via sort glob)

$year-$month-$day-$hh$mm-filename_safe_headline

and then in the file, make almost e-mail-like

Author: Philippe M. Chiasson http://www.cnn.com/mod_perl_saved_my_life.html
Date: 2004-08-09
Story Image: http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/me.gif
Category: Success Stories
   <-- blank line
the abstract goes here... la la la
-
the rest of the story goes here la la la

I've just had a bad go with YAML a couple of times.  Thought it was the
best thing since sliced bread, until I dumped something to YAML
and couldn't load it :(

BTW, got my darn e-mail fixed... stupid default debian exim install was
rewriting my envelope From and my Sender: header to my user account
instead of the address in my "From:" header.

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 14:59, Stas Bekman wrote:
That's the whole point. In order to make things simple, it shouldn't 
require commit access or anything list that. We could even use a 
simplified version of slashdot, so people can submit stories, people can 
comment on them, making it much more efficient and not creating any 
bottlenecks.

Yes, we could set up a blog for news.  It seems a bit redundant to have
comments when we already have the mailing list(s), so I would skip
that.  We also can't put things on the site without an approval process,
so it would need users and permissions.  If we are able to host web apps
on perl.apache.org and someone out there feels like playing with some
simple blog software (Blosxom? Bryar?), that would be fine with me.
Just throwing ideas, really. If the overhead of managing news is too 
big, it will be too easy to stop doing that. So I'm just wondering 
what's the simplest approach for more people being able to contibute w/o 
as little overhead as possible.

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 14:59, Stas Bekman wrote:
> That's the whole point. In order to make things simple, it shouldn't 
> require commit access or anything list that. We could even use a 
> simplified version of slashdot, so people can submit stories, people can 
> comment on them, making it much more efficient and not creating any 
> bottlenecks.

Yes, we could set up a blog for news.  It seems a bit redundant to have
comments when we already have the mailing list(s), so I would skip
that.  We also can't put things on the site without an approval process,
so it would need users and permissions.  If we are able to host web apps
on perl.apache.org and someone out there feels like playing with some
simple blog software (Blosxom? Bryar?), that would be fine with me.

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson

Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 14:42, Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
How about:
Author: Philippe M. Chiasson
Title: How mod_perl saved my life!
Reference: http://www.cnn.com/mod_perl_saved_my_life.html
Author Icon: http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/me.gif
Category: Success Stories
Abstract: Philippe was walking down the street one day and he was almost
  run over by a bus. He owes his life to the mod_perl book he had just
  purchased and tells us how it happened.
Story: bla bla bla bla
Shouldn't something like this be simple enough for our initial needs ?

Sure, with some small tweaks (add a date, remove separate story, remove
reference, change author icon to story image).  See http://php.net/ for
an idea of what I'm going for.
Glancing at the YAML docs, it looks like putting "" between those
would make them parseable as records, so maybe we'll use that after all.
For instance :
$> cat story.yml
--- #YAML:1.0
Author: Philippe M. Chiasson
Title: How mod_perl saved my life!
Reference: http://www.cnn.com/mod_perl_saved_my_life.html
Date: 2004-08-09
Story Image: http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/me.gif
Category: Success Stories
Abstract: >
  Philippe was walking down the street one day and he was almost
  run over by a bus. He owes his life to the mod_perl book he had just
  purchased and tells us how it happened.
Story: >
  bla bla bla bla
$> cat story.yml | ysh
$VAR1 = {
  'Story Image' => 'http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/me.gif',
  'Story' => 'bla bla bla bla
',
  'Date' => '2004-08-09',
  'Reference' => 'http://www.cnn.com/mod_perl_saved_my_life.html',
  'Abstract' => 'Philippe was walking down the street one day and he was almost run over by a bus. He owes his life to the mod_perl book he had just purchased 
and tells us how it happened.
',
  'Title' => 'How mod_perl saved my life!',
  'Category' => 'Success Stories',
  'Author' => 'Philippe M. Chiasson'
};

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Stas Bekman

How about:
Author: Philippe M. Chiasson
Title: How mod_perl saved my life!
Reference: http://www.cnn.com/mod_perl_saved_my_life.html
Author Icon: http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/me.gif
Category: Success Stories
Abstract: Philippe was walking down the street one day and he was almost
  run over by a bus. He owes his life to the mod_perl book he had just
  purchased and tells us how it happened.
Story: bla bla bla bla
Which is a plain email with extra fields. In fact we already use that. 
Take a look at:
http://perl.apache.org/outstanding/success_stories/index.html
each of these entries originates from .txt files which is an original 
email with a few extra fields. It's then transformed into pod, and 
finally to html.
Check
modperl-docs/src/outstanding/success_stories/


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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 14:12, Stas Bekman wrote:
One way to do it would be to simply write into a large RSS file by hand,
and let a script grab the last 10 of those for the real RSS feed and for
generating the pages.
Yuck. The front-end doesn't have to be anything format specific.

There doesn't need to be a front-end.  People who don't have access to
the site CVS just send submissions to an editor.
That's the whole point. In order to make things simple, it shouldn't 
require commit access or anything list that. We could even use a 
simplified version of slashdot, so people can submit stories, people can 
comment on them, making it much more efficient and not creating any 
bottlenecks.

Just 
have a simple form for content management. I really liked the Bricolage 
presentation at OSCon, it's so easy to create and manipulate data.

Bricolage, like any CMS with a similar breadth of features, is far from
simple.  I don't see any need to have a web form.  This is just basic 
structured data, which can be written to a flat file.  I would like to
preserve the current situation where the site is not dynamic except for
the search.
Agreed.
Can you please take a look at how jobs.perl.org works. I'm not sure what 
they are using behind the scenes, but it seems to work great.

Presumably they use a database.  jobs.perl.org is orders of magnitude
more complex than a simple news listing.
OK
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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 14:42, Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
> How about:
> 
> Author: Philippe M. Chiasson
> Title: How mod_perl saved my life!
> Reference: http://www.cnn.com/mod_perl_saved_my_life.html
> Author Icon: http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/me.gif
> Category: Success Stories
> Abstract: Philippe was walking down the street one day and he was almost
>run over by a bus. He owes his life to the mod_perl book he had just
>purchased and tells us how it happened.
> Story: bla bla bla bla
> 
> Shouldn't something like this be simple enough for our initial needs ?

Sure, with some small tweaks (add a date, remove separate story, remove
reference, change author icon to story image).  See http://php.net/ for
an idea of what I'm going for.

Glancing at the YAML docs, it looks like putting "" between those
would make them parseable as records, so maybe we'll use that after all.

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson

Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 14:12, Stas Bekman wrote:
One way to do it would be to simply write into a large RSS file by hand,
and let a script grab the last 10 of those for the real RSS feed and for
generating the pages.
Yuck. The front-end doesn't have to be anything format specific.

There doesn't need to be a front-end.  People who don't have access to
the site CVS just send submissions to an editor.

Just 
have a simple form for content management. I really liked the Bricolage 
presentation at OSCon, it's so easy to create and manipulate data.

Bricolage, like any CMS with a similar breadth of features, is far from
simple.  I don't see any need to have a web form.  This is just basic 
structured data, which can be written to a flat file.  I would like to
preserve the current situation where the site is not dynamic except for
the search.


Can you please take a look at how jobs.perl.org works. I'm not sure what 
they are using behind the scenes, but it seems to work great.

Presumably they use a database.  jobs.perl.org is orders of magnitude
more complex than a simple news listing.
How about:
Author: Philippe M. Chiasson
Title: How mod_perl saved my life!
Reference: http://www.cnn.com/mod_perl_saved_my_life.html
Author Icon: http://gozer.ectoplasm.org/me.gif
Category: Success Stories
Abstract: Philippe was walking down the street one day and he was almost
  run over by a bus. He owes his life to the mod_perl book he had just
  purchased and tells us how it happened.
Story: bla bla bla bla
Shouldn't something like this be simple enough for our initial needs ?

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 14:12, Stas Bekman wrote:
> > One way to do it would be to simply write into a large RSS file by hand,
> > and let a script grab the last 10 of those for the real RSS feed and for
> > generating the pages.
> 
> Yuck. The front-end doesn't have to be anything format specific.

There doesn't need to be a front-end.  People who don't have access to
the site CVS just send submissions to an editor.

> Just 
> have a simple form for content management. I really liked the Bricolage 
> presentation at OSCon, it's so easy to create and manipulate data.

Bricolage, like any CMS with a similar breadth of features, is far from
simple.  I don't see any need to have a web form.  This is just basic 
structured data, which can be written to a flat file.  I would like to
preserve the current situation where the site is not dynamic except for
the search.

> Can you please take a look at how jobs.perl.org works. I'm not sure what 
> they are using behind the scenes, but it seems to work great.

Presumably they use a database.  jobs.perl.org is orders of magnitude
more complex than a simple news listing.

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 05:25, Stas Bekman wrote:
Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
How about POD or YAML for a simple format like that one ? Keeping the 
pool of possible
authors/reporters as high as possible.
+1 to stand clear of XXXml ;)

I can't imagine that more people know YAML than basic XML.  I know I've
avoided YAML so far, since it seems pretty pointless to me.  I don't
think POD or a wiki would provide enough structure for this use (we need
a headline, body, date, poster, etc.), although I suppose we could make
POD work by requiring a strict structure for news items.
One way to do it would be to simply write into a large RSS file by hand,
and let a script grab the last 10 of those for the real RSS feed and for
generating the pages.
Yuck. The front-end doesn't have to be anything format specific. Just 
have a simple form for content management. I really liked the Bricolage 
presentation at OSCon, it's so easy to create and manipulate data.

Can you please take a look at how jobs.perl.org works. I'm not sure what 
they are using behind the scenes, but it seems to work great.

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson

Uwe Voelker wrote:
+1 to stand clear of XXXml ;)

But RSS is XML.
The format in which we edit or submit stories doesn't
have to be XML, as long as XML can be _generated_ easily
from it to create the RSS feeds
What types of news should be published?
- new page 'advocacy', see link ...
- new success story, see link ...
- new success story, full text
Who writes the news?
It would be great if a few people acted as editors, reviewing
stories, etc. But all in all, I'd love it if submitting a news
story was kept as simple as possible so that a big pool of mod_perl
users can easily submit a piece of news while requiring minimal work
for the editors to put in.
Bye, Uwe
PS: Can we use cpan modules (like XML::RSS)?
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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Uwe Voelker wrote:
+1 to stand clear of XXXml ;)

But RSS is XML.
Yes, but it doesn't mean that the source should be written in XML.
BTW, take a look at http://perl.apache.org/jobs/jobs.html
which gets its feed from perl.org via this simple js:
"JavaScript" type="text/javascript"
src="http://jobs.perl.org/rss/mod_perl.js?limit=25;details=1";>
I think that would be perfect, and doesn't require any modifications to 
the current site. And the feed can live anywhere.

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 05:37, Uwe Voelker wrote:
> What types of news should be published?
> - new page 'advocacy', see link ...

Yes.

> - new success story, see link ...

Yes.

> - new success story, full text

No, just a short description.  Think blog.

> Who writes the news?

Me, and anyone else who wants to contribute.

> PS: Can we use cpan modules (like XML::RSS)?

We can certainly use pure perl ones (with a local lib directory).  Ones
that require compiling may be trickier.  I'm not sure about the
capabilities of the box this runs on.

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 05:25, Stas Bekman wrote:
> Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
> > How about POD or YAML for a simple format like that one ? Keeping the 
> > pool of possible
> > authors/reporters as high as possible.
> 
> +1 to stand clear of XXXml ;)

I can't imagine that more people know YAML than basic XML.  I know I've
avoided YAML so far, since it seems pretty pointless to me.  I don't
think POD or a wiki would provide enough structure for this use (we need
a headline, body, date, poster, etc.), although I suppose we could make
POD work by requiring a strict structure for news items.

One way to do it would be to simply write into a large RSS file by hand,
and let a script grab the last 10 of those for the real RSS feed and for
generating the pages.

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Uwe Voelker
> +1 to stand clear of XXXml ;)

But RSS is XML.

What types of news should be published?
- new page 'advocacy', see link ...
- new success story, see link ...
- new success story, full text

Who writes the news?


Bye, Uwe


PS: Can we use cpan modules (like XML::RSS)?


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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 06:13, Uwe Voelker wrote:
I would like to help.
What needs to be done? Is it more html or perl coding?

It's both.  What I had in mind was a file that we would add news items
to, probably in XML or some other format with a handy parser already
written.  Then we need to hook into the site generation script to read
this file, put the first 3 items on the home page if they are newer than
60 days, generate an archive page for the rest up to a year old, and
generate an RSS file for the latest 10 items.
Check out the site code by following the instructions here:
http://perl.apache.org/download/docs.html
May be it's the simplest to setup wiki? it can live in the checkout 
directory w/o having anything to do with the site generation. just an idea.

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-09 Thread Stas Bekman
Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 06:13, Uwe Voelker wrote:
 

I would like to help.
What needs to be done? Is it more html or perl coding?
  

It's both.  What I had in mind was a file that we would add news items
to, probably in XML or some other format with a handy parser already
written.
How about POD or YAML for a simple format like that one ? Keeping the 
pool of possible
authors/reporters as high as possible.
+1 to stand clear of XXXml ;)
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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-08 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson
Perrin Harkins wrote:
On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 06:13, Uwe Voelker wrote:
 

I would like to help.
What needs to be done? Is it more html or perl coding?
   

It's both.  What I had in mind was a file that we would add news items
to, probably in XML or some other format with a handy parser already
written.
How about POD or YAML for a simple format like that one ? Keeping the 
pool of possible
authors/reporters as high as possible.

 Then we need to hook into the site generation script to read
this file, put the first 3 items on the home page if they are newer than
60 days, generate an archive page for the rest up to a year old, and
generate an RSS file for the latest 10 items.
 

Sounds about right to me.
Check out the site code by following the instructions here:
http://perl.apache.org/download/docs.html
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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-08 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 06:13, Uwe Voelker wrote:
> I would like to help.
> 
> What needs to be done? Is it more html or perl coding?

It's both.  What I had in mind was a file that we would add news items
to, probably in XML or some other format with a handy parser already
written.  Then we need to hook into the site generation script to read
this file, put the first 3 items on the home page if they are newer than
60 days, generate an archive page for the rest up to a year old, and
generate an RSS file for the latest 10 items.

Check out the site code by following the instructions here:
http://perl.apache.org/download/docs.html

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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-07 Thread Uwe Voelker
Hello Perrin,

> I volunteered to work on this.  If anyone else wants to help with
> the
> required changes to the site code, let me know.  It is available for
> download, and I have commit access so I can vet patches.

I would like to help.

What needs to be done? Is it more html or perl coding?


Bye,
Uwe


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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-06 Thread Stas Bekman
Please don't forget to hit Reply-All. I'll ask to setup Reply-To header 
back to the list.

Jeff Bisbee wrote:
* Stas Bekman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Jeff, if you will start sending patching, very quickly you will get a 
commit access to make you more productive. That applies for anybody else 
who wants to contribute :)

Sounds like a plan.  I'd also like to get the mail issue fixed with
ezmlm.  It seems that even though I signed up with
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2004-08-06 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson
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Stas Bekman wrote:
| Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
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|>> BTW, who currently maintains the perl.apache.org site?
|
|
|> All the people with write privileges to the modperl-site are :
|> stas,cholet,ask,randyk,dougm,geoff,gozer,
|> rse,fdc,khera,richter,ix,dharris,jochen,ged,
|> perrin,moseley,pereinar,theory
|
|
| Actually it's not the case. modperl-site is a legacy repository
| which exists for the only reason of Gerald not moving his embperl
| docs over/away. Otherwise modperl-site is dead.
Oupss, thanks for the precisions Stas!
Coincidentelly, the user perms for modperl-docs and modperl-site are
the same, so my list still stands ;-)
| modperl-docs is the new repository which is the base of what you
| see at perl.apache.org. So the perms are probabaly different for
| that rep.
|
| For more information see: http://perl.apache.org/download/docs.html
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|
| Jeff, if you will start sending patching, very quickly you will get
|  a commit access to make you more productive. That applies for
| anybody else who wants to contribute :)
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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-06 Thread Stas Bekman
Philippe M. Chiasson wrote:
BTW, who currently maintains the perl.apache.org site?

All the people with write privileges to the modperl-site are :
stas,cholet,ask,randyk,dougm,geoff,gozer,
rse,fdc,khera,richter,ix,dharris,jochen,ged,
perrin,moseley,pereinar,theory
Actually it's not the case. modperl-site is a legacy repository which 
exists for the only reason of Gerald not moving his embperl docs 
over/away. Otherwise modperl-site is dead.

modperl-docs is the new repository which is the base of what you see at 
perl.apache.org. So the perms are probabaly different for that rep.

For more information see:
http://perl.apache.org/download/docs.html
Jeff, if you will start sending patching, very quickly you will get a 
commit access to make you more productive. That applies for anybody else 
who wants to contribute :)

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2004-08-06 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson
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Perrin Harkins wrote:
| On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 21:27, Jeff Bisbee wrote:
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|> BTW, who currently maintains the perl.apache.org site?  Once you
|> get press releases and news stories rolling out, I think they
|> shold be on the home page.  They should also be syndicated via
|> RSS to reach more people.
|
|
| I volunteered to work on this.  If anyone else wants to help with
| the required changes to the site code, let me know.  It is
| available for download, and I have commit access so I can vet
| patches.
Cool Perrin! It would be nice to be able to regularly add news
stories, and keep
the last 2-3 up on the homepage, unless they are older than a certain
threshold.
One thing I think worse than a "What's new?" section is stale news on
a "What's new?"
section ;-)
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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-06 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 21:27, Jeff Bisbee wrote:
> BTW, who currently maintains the perl.apache.org site?  Once you get
> press releases and news stories rolling out, I think they shold be on
> the home page.  They should also be syndicated via RSS to reach more
> people.

I volunteered to work on this.  If anyone else wants to help with the
required changes to the site code, let me know.  It is available for
download, and I have commit access so I can vet patches.

- Perrin


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Re: mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-06 Thread Philippe M. Chiasson
Jeff Bisbee wrote:
Just spoke to Gavin Estey, the current Perl Foundation Public Relations
chair, and he's agreed to help out.
That's great news!
 He should be joining the list
shortly.  Been _very_ busy since I got back from OSCON and was finally
able to sign up to advocacy list last night.
 

Well, that's probably true for most of us. I had a good week of work 
piled up
waiting for me ;-)

BTW, who currently maintains the perl.apache.org site? 

All the people with write privileges to the modperl-site are :
stas,cholet,ask,randyk,dougm,geoff,gozer,
rse,fdc,khera,richter,ix,dharris,jochen,ged,
perrin,moseley,pereinar,theory
Once you get
press releases and news stories rolling out, I think they shold be on
the home page. 

Yes, we have started talking about having a 'News' section to the front 
page for
thigns like this and more.

They should also be syndicated via RSS to reach more
people.
Yup, and if php can have it's own category/logo on slashdot, we should 
be able
to get one too.

 Not sure if you guys currently have something in place, but it
should be done by the time mod_perl hits 2.0.
 

Not sure what you mean by that ?
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mod_perl Public Relations

2004-08-06 Thread Jeff Bisbee
Just spoke to Gavin Estey, the current Perl Foundation Public Relations
chair, and he's agreed to help out.  He should be joining the list
shortly.  Been _very_ busy since I got back from OSCON and was finally
able to sign up to advocacy list last night.

BTW, who currently maintains the perl.apache.org site?  Once you get
press releases and news stories rolling out, I think they shold be on
the home page.  They should also be syndicated via RSS to reach more
people.  Not sure if you guys currently have something in place, but it
should be done by the time mod_perl hits 2.0.

-- Jeff Bisbee / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / jbisbee.com

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