Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is this how you do it Jaime?

2018-08-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yuk...

Jaime Solorza

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018, 9:00 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Tongue has a nice beefy flavor and makes a good taco if it is tender.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 11, 2018, at 7:53 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> Carne asada, carne desebrada o carne molida.I don't like stomach, head
> or tonguewife doesnot me...
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018, 6:59 PM Jay Weekley 
> wrote:
>
>> Flautas, head taco, stomach taco, tongue taco and I had already eaten the
>> pork skin taco.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is this how you do it Jaime?

2018-08-11 Thread Chuck McCown
Tongue has a nice beefy flavor and makes a good taco if it is tender.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 11, 2018, at 7:53 PM, Jaime Solorza  wrote:
> 
> Carne asada, carne desebrada o carne molida.I don't like stomach, head or 
> tonguewife doesnot me...
> 
> Jaime Solorza
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018, 6:59 PM Jay Weekley  wrote:
>> Flautas, head taco, stomach taco, tongue taco and I had already eaten the 
>> pork skin taco.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is this how you do it Jaime?

2018-08-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Carne asada, carne desebrada o carne molida.I don't like stomach, head
or tonguewife doesnot me...

Jaime Solorza

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018, 6:59 PM Jay Weekley  wrote:

> Flautas, head taco, stomach taco, tongue taco and I had already eaten the
> pork skin taco.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-11 Thread chuck

The jawbone of an ass can be pretty lethal.

But so can a properly planted fist to side of your jaw.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert Andrews

Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:43 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

Trees,  Ban Trees,  They are the root of all evil...

On 08/11/2018 09:51 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
There is a guy with a you tube channel that does crazy stuff like wooden 
cylinder heads on lawn mower engines.

He should make an all wooden gun.
Use just the normal tools found in a high school wood shop.
Publish those plans.
(If you used ironwood for the barrel it might work.  )
Then, what are they going to ban?  High school wood shops?
Purchase of wood.
All plans for things made of wood.
*From:* can...@believewireless.net
*Sent:* Saturday, August 11, 2018 10:36 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
The printers aren't the problem, it's the CAD software. Ban that. Wait... 
but without computers,

CAD software can't run. Ban computers! We'll fix this mess right up.
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 12:25 PM,  wrote:

ban 3d printers
they make defective guns
*From:* justsumname
*Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 10:31 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
yep be careful:

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/10/watch-man-tests-democrats-claims-pulls-trigger-on-all-plastic-gun-it-blows-up/


On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:05 AM,  wrote:

No, we restrict SMTP transmission to only stateside IPs
*From:* can...@believewireless.net
*Sent:* Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:58 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
Chuck, I hope this list isn't international... expect a knock on
your door from the FBI from what you just published.
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:29 AM,  wrote:

But you don’t need a 3D printer.
When I was a kid:  I put a shotgun shell in a vise, held a
nail with pliers and used the nail and a ball peen hammer to
set it off.
I put shotgun shells in pipes and did similar things.
As young as 5 years old I crammed a 22 cal cartridge into
the holes in a chunk of lava rock and hammered it with
another rock until it went off.
As previously mentioned here, zip guns have been made for
decades.  I recently crammed a 22 cal into a soda straw and
threw it up in the air to come down on concrete.  It did not
go off as promised.
Tape a ball bearing or marble on the bottom of a shotgun
shell and do the same thing.
Lots of fun to be had without a 3D printer.
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:53 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly
young idiots, like most of us on this list probably were.
Printing up the gun on a cheap printer and blowing their
hands off because they don't understand the plastic quality
matters. Granted, dumb kids like us blew things up with
other stuff and manages to keep most of our fingers and a
percentage of our hearing. Maybe I'm just getting old and
worry about the consequences of dumb kids.
And what happens to some kid who loads the file into one of
the school printers, his life is effectively over for being
a dumb kid.
I find the hype humorous since you could download anarchist
cookbook from almost day one of the public interwebs. Meth
recipes and instruction, ricin production from castor beans,
this krocodile fake heroin, napalm recipes, etc.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 8:57 PM Seth Mattinen
 wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:48 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
 > Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made
of metal instead of
 > plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets.


Print some plastic ones. Problem solved.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-11 Thread Robert Andrews

Trees,  Ban Trees,  They are the root of all evil...

On 08/11/2018 09:51 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
There is a guy with a you tube channel that does crazy stuff like wooden 
cylinder heads on lawn mower engines.

He should make an all wooden gun.
Use just the normal tools found in a high school wood shop.
Publish those plans.
(If you used ironwood for the barrel it might work.  )
Then, what are they going to ban?  High school wood shops?
Purchase of wood.
All plans for things made of wood.
*From:* can...@believewireless.net
*Sent:* Saturday, August 11, 2018 10:36 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
The printers aren't the problem, it's the CAD software. Ban that. 
Wait... but without computers,

CAD software can't run. Ban computers! We'll fix this mess right up.
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 12:25 PM,  wrote:

ban 3d printers
they make defective guns
*From:* justsumname
*Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 10:31 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
yep be careful:

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/10/watch-man-tests-democrats-claims-pulls-trigger-on-all-plastic-gun-it-blows-up/


On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:05 AM,  wrote:

No, we restrict SMTP transmission to only stateside IPs
*From:* can...@believewireless.net
*Sent:* Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:58 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
Chuck, I hope this list isn't international... expect a knock on
your door from the FBI from what you just published.
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:29 AM,  wrote:

But you don’t need a 3D printer.
When I was a kid:  I put a shotgun shell in a vise, held a
nail with pliers and used the nail and a ball peen hammer to
set it off.
I put shotgun shells in pipes and did similar things.
As young as 5 years old I crammed a 22 cal cartridge into
the holes in a chunk of lava rock and hammered it with
another rock until it went off.
As previously mentioned here, zip guns have been made for
decades.  I recently crammed a 22 cal into a soda straw and
threw it up in the air to come down on concrete.  It did not
go off as promised.
Tape a ball bearing or marble on the bottom of a shotgun
shell and do the same thing.
Lots of fun to be had without a 3D printer.
*From:* Steve Jones
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:53 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly
young idiots, like most of us on this list probably were.
Printing up the gun on a cheap printer and blowing their
hands off because they don't understand the plastic quality
matters. Granted, dumb kids like us blew things up with
other stuff and manages to keep most of our fingers and a
percentage of our hearing. Maybe I'm just getting old and
worry about the consequences of dumb kids.
And what happens to some kid who loads the file into one of
the school printers, his life is effectively over for being
a dumb kid.
I find the hype humorous since you could download anarchist
cookbook from almost day one of the public interwebs. Meth
recipes and instruction, ricin production from castor beans,
this krocodile fake heroin, napalm recipes, etc.
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 8:57 PM Seth Mattinen
 wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:48 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
 > Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made
of metal instead of
 > plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets.


Print some plastic ones. Problem solved.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-11 Thread chuck
There is a guy with a you tube channel that does crazy stuff like wooden 
cylinder heads on lawn mower engines.
He should make an all wooden gun.  

Use just the normal tools found in a high school wood shop.  
Publish those plans.

(If you used ironwood for the barrel it might work.  )

Then, what are they going to ban?  High school wood shops?
Purchase of wood.
All plans for things made of wood.  

From: can...@believewireless.net 
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 10:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

The printers aren't the problem, it's the CAD software. Ban that. Wait... but 
without computers,
CAD software can't run. Ban computers! We'll fix this mess right up.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 12:25 PM,  wrote:

  ban 3d printers
  they make defective guns

  From: justsumname 
  Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 10:31 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

  yep be careful: 

  
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/10/watch-man-tests-democrats-claims-pulls-trigger-on-all-plastic-gun-it-blows-up/



  On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:05 AM,  wrote:

No, we restrict SMTP transmission to only stateside IPs

From: can...@believewireless.net 
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

Chuck, I hope this list isn't international... expect a knock on your door 
from the FBI from what you just published.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:29 AM,  wrote:

  But you don’t need a 3D printer.

  When I was a kid:  I put a shotgun shell in a vise, held a nail with 
pliers and used the nail and a ball peen hammer to set it off.

  I put shotgun shells in pipes and did similar things.

  As young as 5 years old I crammed a 22 cal cartridge into the holes in a 
chunk of lava rock and hammered it with another rock until it went off.  

  As previously mentioned here, zip guns have been made for decades.  I 
recently crammed a 22 cal into a soda straw and threw it up in the air to come 
down on concrete.  It did not go off as promised.  

  Tape a ball bearing or marble on the bottom of a shotgun shell and do the 
same thing.  
  Lots of fun to be had without a 3D printer.  

  From: Steve Jones 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:53 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

  My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly young idiots, 
like most of us on this list probably were. Printing up the gun on a cheap 
printer and blowing their hands off because they don't understand the plastic 
quality matters. Granted, dumb kids like us blew things up with other stuff and 
manages to keep most of our fingers and a percentage of our hearing. Maybe I'm 
just getting old and worry about the consequences of dumb kids. 

  And what happens to some kid who loads the file into one of the school 
printers, his life is effectively over for being a dumb kid.

  I find the hype humorous since you could download anarchist cookbook from 
almost day one of the public interwebs. Meth recipes and instruction, ricin 
production from castor beans, this krocodile fake heroin, napalm recipes, etc. 

  On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 8:57 PM Seth Mattinen  wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:48 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made of metal instead 
of 
> plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets.


Print some plastic ones. Problem solved.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-11 Thread Mathew Howard
Get rid of electricity, and none of it's a problem!

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 11:37 AM can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> The printers aren't the problem, it's the CAD software. Ban that. Wait...
> but without computers,
> CAD software can't run. Ban computers! We'll fix this mess right up.
>
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 12:25 PM,  wrote:
>
>> ban 3d printers
>> they make defective guns
>>
>> *From:* justsumname
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 10:31 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
>>
>> yep be careful:
>>
>>
>> https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/10/watch-man-tests-democrats-claims-pulls-trigger-on-all-plastic-gun-it-blows-up/
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:05 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> No, we restrict SMTP transmission to only stateside IPs
>>>
>>> *From:* can...@believewireless.net
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:58 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
>>>
>>> Chuck, I hope this list isn't international... expect a knock on your
>>> door from the FBI from what you just published.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:29 AM,  wrote:
>>>
 But you don’t need a 3D printer.

 When I was a kid:  I put a shotgun shell in a vise, held a nail with
 pliers and used the nail and a ball peen hammer to set it off.

 I put shotgun shells in pipes and did similar things.

 As young as 5 years old I crammed a 22 cal cartridge into the holes in
 a chunk of lava rock and hammered it with another rock until it went off.

 As previously mentioned here, zip guns have been made for decades.  I
 recently crammed a 22 cal into a soda straw and threw it up in the air to
 come down on concrete.  It did not go off as promised.

 Tape a ball bearing or marble on the bottom of a shotgun shell and do
 the same thing.
 Lots of fun to be had without a 3D printer.

 *From:* Steve Jones
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:53 PM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

 My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly young
 idiots, like most of us on this list probably were. Printing up the gun on
 a cheap printer and blowing their hands off because they don't understand
 the plastic quality matters. Granted, dumb kids like us blew things up with
 other stuff and manages to keep most of our fingers and a percentage of our
 hearing. Maybe I'm just getting old and worry about the consequences of
 dumb kids.

 And what happens to some kid who loads the file into one of the school
 printers, his life is effectively over for being a dumb kid.

 I find the hype humorous since you could download anarchist cookbook
 from almost day one of the public interwebs. Meth recipes and instruction,
 ricin production from castor beans, this krocodile fake heroin, napalm
 recipes, etc.

 On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 8:57 PM Seth Mattinen  wrote:

> On 8/1/18 6:48 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> > Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made of metal
> instead of
> > plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets.
>
>
> Print some plastic ones. Problem solved.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-11 Thread can...@believewireless.net
The printers aren't the problem, it's the CAD software. Ban that. Wait...
but without computers,
CAD software can't run. Ban computers! We'll fix this mess right up.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 12:25 PM,  wrote:

> ban 3d printers
> they make defective guns
>
> *From:* justsumname
> *Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 10:31 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
>
> yep be careful:
>
> https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/10/watch-
> man-tests-democrats-claims-pulls-trigger-on-all-plastic-gun-it-blows-up/
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:05 AM,  wrote:
>
>> No, we restrict SMTP transmission to only stateside IPs
>>
>> *From:* can...@believewireless.net
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:58 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
>>
>> Chuck, I hope this list isn't international... expect a knock on your
>> door from the FBI from what you just published.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:29 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> But you don’t need a 3D printer.
>>>
>>> When I was a kid:  I put a shotgun shell in a vise, held a nail with
>>> pliers and used the nail and a ball peen hammer to set it off.
>>>
>>> I put shotgun shells in pipes and did similar things.
>>>
>>> As young as 5 years old I crammed a 22 cal cartridge into the holes in a
>>> chunk of lava rock and hammered it with another rock until it went off.
>>>
>>> As previously mentioned here, zip guns have been made for decades.  I
>>> recently crammed a 22 cal into a soda straw and threw it up in the air to
>>> come down on concrete.  It did not go off as promised.
>>>
>>> Tape a ball bearing or marble on the bottom of a shotgun shell and do
>>> the same thing.
>>> Lots of fun to be had without a 3D printer.
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:53 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
>>>
>>> My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly young idiots,
>>> like most of us on this list probably were. Printing up the gun on a cheap
>>> printer and blowing their hands off because they don't understand the
>>> plastic quality matters. Granted, dumb kids like us blew things up with
>>> other stuff and manages to keep most of our fingers and a percentage of our
>>> hearing. Maybe I'm just getting old and worry about the consequences of
>>> dumb kids.
>>>
>>> And what happens to some kid who loads the file into one of the school
>>> printers, his life is effectively over for being a dumb kid.
>>>
>>> I find the hype humorous since you could download anarchist cookbook
>>> from almost day one of the public interwebs. Meth recipes and instruction,
>>> ricin production from castor beans, this krocodile fake heroin, napalm
>>> recipes, etc.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 8:57 PM Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>>>
 On 8/1/18 6:48 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
 > Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made of metal instead
 of
 > plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets.


 Print some plastic ones. Problem solved.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

2018-08-11 Thread chuck
ban 3d printers
they make defective guns

From: justsumname 
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 10:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

yep be careful: 

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/10/watch-man-tests-democrats-claims-pulls-trigger-on-all-plastic-gun-it-blows-up/



On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:05 AM,  wrote:

  No, we restrict SMTP transmission to only stateside IPs

  From: can...@believewireless.net 
  Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:58 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

  Chuck, I hope this list isn't international... expect a knock on your door 
from the FBI from what you just published.

  On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:29 AM,  wrote:

But you don’t need a 3D printer.

When I was a kid:  I put a shotgun shell in a vise, held a nail with pliers 
and used the nail and a ball peen hammer to set it off.

I put shotgun shells in pipes and did similar things.

As young as 5 years old I crammed a 22 cal cartridge into the holes in a 
chunk of lava rock and hammered it with another rock until it went off.  

As previously mentioned here, zip guns have been made for decades.  I 
recently crammed a 22 cal into a soda straw and threw it up in the air to come 
down on concrete.  It did not go off as promised.  

Tape a ball bearing or marble on the bottom of a shotgun shell and do the 
same thing.  
Lots of fun to be had without a 3D printer.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly young idiots, 
like most of us on this list probably were. Printing up the gun on a cheap 
printer and blowing their hands off because they don't understand the plastic 
quality matters. Granted, dumb kids like us blew things up with other stuff and 
manages to keep most of our fingers and a percentage of our hearing. Maybe I'm 
just getting old and worry about the consequences of dumb kids. 

And what happens to some kid who loads the file into one of the school 
printers, his life is effectively over for being a dumb kid.

I find the hype humorous since you could download anarchist cookbook from 
almost day one of the public interwebs. Meth recipes and instruction, ricin 
production from castor beans, this krocodile fake heroin, napalm recipes, etc. 

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 8:57 PM Seth Mattinen  wrote:

  On 8/1/18 6:48 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
  > Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made of metal instead 
of 
  > plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets.


  Print some plastic ones. Problem solved.

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Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-11 Thread Mike Hammett
https://imgur.com/4RCs5Qo 
https://imgur.com/RjA2gTc 
https://imgur.com/E8Zookx 



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- Original Message -

From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 9:31:29 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium 


https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/1660546944070751 



Ubiquiti Networks, Inc.​ sues Cambium Networks​. 


https://www.law360.com/articles/1071813/wireless-co-ubiquiti-says-rival-sells-hacking-firmware
 


I'd like to see more of the claims. 


They've also sued Sakid Ahmed and Dmitry Moiseev of Cambium. 
They've sued WINNCOM TECHNOLOGIES, CORP.​. 


They've sued BLIP Networks​, a WISP in southern Illinois. 



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