Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT my new look

[Chuck McCown]

Tnx

From: Ryan Ray 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2019 6:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT my new look

Was fixed at 2:10pm PST. Shows up normal now. 

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  This is from one of my employees:
  WE CANNOT REPLICATE POSTED ISSUE sent by Ryan. Can you ask him to clear cache.

  chrome : https://snag.gy/dhJG7l.jpg
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Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT my new look

[Ryan Ray]

Was fixed at 2:10pm PST. Shows up normal now.

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[AFMUG] Fw: OT my new look

[Chuck McCown]

This is from one of my employees:
WE CANNOT REPLICATE POSTED ISSUE sent by Ryan. Can you ask him to clear cache.

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Re: [AFMUG] Virtual fiber

[Ken Hohhof]

And now they’re touting the “Fourth Industrial Revolution” based on 5G.

https://www.verizon.com/about/our-company/fourth-industrial-revolution/fourth-industrial-revolution-built-5g

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 12:46 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Virtual fiber

 

So do I need to start advertising my fiber as “physical fiber works by using 
sharks with lasers to connect customers to the internet."  I remember a time 
when I once thought this business was going to be that easy.  

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 4:55 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Virtual fiber

 

Telus has been calling its VDSL2 based last mile service, from curb boxes with 
small Huawei DSLAMs, and in the basements of MDUs, "Optik" for a long time. 
With marketing bullshit materials that have billboards, bus stop ads, ads on 
buses and such showing fiber optic cables.

 

And that's a huge ILEC.

 

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 6:40 AM Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote:

Reminds me of a Century Link ad campaign for DSL.  They called it fiber 
service, the fiber delivered high speed to a point right outside your home or 
business (as long as right out side was within 10,000 feet)

 

From: Tim Withrow via AF 

Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 12:07 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com   

Cc: Tim Withrow 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Virtual fiber

 

"virtual fiber works by using wireless signals to connect customers to the 
internet."

"Though the technology FiberXstream uses is available to the mass market"

Sounds like someone has great ambitions and has got overzealous with marketing 
rhetoric for a wireless network.

 


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Anyone know what virtual fiber is and why it's harder to deploy than 
traditional fiber?? 藍藍 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT my new look

[chuck]

Good to hear.  Been working on this consolidated start page and integrating the 
three sites for months.  

From: Sam Lambie 
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 3:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT my new look

Looks good to me! Your Fab shop makes me drool.

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 3:19 PM Josh Luthman  wrote:

  Looks just fine for me... Win 10 chrome Windows desktop...


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  On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 5:15 PM Timothy Steele  
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Main page is All off center on an Android phone

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 5:12 PM  wrote:

Desktop, Chrome, Win10, tried incogneto too no change. 

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:49 PM  wrote:

  Is this on a phone or a desktop or?

  From: Ryan Ray 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 2:30 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT my new look

  Same for me

  On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:23 PM Brian Sullivan 
 wrote:

Here is how it looks for me.


On 1/9/2019 3:10 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I think it is fully launched now.  I would appreciate feedback.
  https://www.mccowntech.com/

   


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Re: [AFMUG] OT my new look

[Sam Lambie]

Looks good to me! Your Fab shop makes me drool.

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 3:19 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Looks just fine for me... Win 10 chrome Windows desktop...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 5:15 PM Timothy Steele 
> wrote:
>
>> Main page is All off center on an Android phone
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 5:12 PM >
>>> Should be an opening page giving you three choices:
>>> Fiber Construction
>>> Products
>>> Fabrication
>>>
>>> *From:* Jeremy
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2019 3:06 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT my new look
>>>
>>> It doesn't look that way for me on Windows 10, Chrome and Firefox
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 3:08 PM Ryan Ray  wrote:
>>>
 Desktop, Chrome, Win10, tried incogneto too no change.

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> Is this on a phone or a desktop or?
>
> *From:* Ryan Ray
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2019 2:30 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT my new look
>
> Same for me
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:23 PM Brian Sullivan <
> installe...@foxvalley.net> wrote:
>
>> Here is how it looks for me.
>>
>> On 1/9/2019 3:10 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
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>> I think it is fully launched now.  I would appreciate feedback.
>> https://www.mccowntech.com/
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Re: [AFMUG] OT my new look

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Looks just fine for me... Win 10 chrome Windows desktop...

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 5:15 PM Timothy Steele 
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> Main page is All off center on an Android phone
>
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 5:12 PM 
>> Should be an opening page giving you three choices:
>> Fiber Construction
>> Products
>> Fabrication
>>
>> *From:* Jeremy
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2019 3:06 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT my new look
>>
>> It doesn't look that way for me on Windows 10, Chrome and Firefox
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 3:08 PM Ryan Ray  wrote:
>>
>>> Desktop, Chrome, Win10, tried incogneto too no change.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:49 PM  wrote:
>>>
 Is this on a phone or a desktop or?

 *From:* Ryan Ray
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2019 2:30 PM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT my new look

 Same for me

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> Here is how it looks for me.
>
> On 1/9/2019 3:10 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
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> I think it is fully launched now.  I would appreciate feedback.
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Re: [AFMUG] Drop Termination Closures

[Adam Moffett]

Chris,

I've got a sample of the Commscope unit in hand.  I can confirm that 
it's about 100x better than the Optima-S.


Also a handy you-tube installation video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuOYHBUhMqw

-Adam


On 1/3/2019 5:27 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

What's the commscope product that is comparable?

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, 5:20 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:


If I'm being perfectly honest, I liked the Commscope version
better than the Optima I have on hand.

There is a newer rev of Optima-S than what I have in my picture,
so I also have to re-evaluate.  The new one is supposed to angle
the connectors up a little so they're easier to get a cable in and
out of.  The mainline compartment closes with bolts instead of the
wire clamps, but I don't know if the seal is any different.  They
changed the splice tray too.  The drop cable compartment has a
snap lid now and I think it had a hasp to optionally secure it
with a wire or zip tie.  Disclaimer.the newer Optima version I
saw was a 3D printed prototype, so it may still be different.

-Adam

On 1/3/2019 5:07 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

It's not a stupid idea. For Aerial espicially there is a big
advantage without the cost of the hardened connector terminals.

We tested the Optima S about a year ago, unfortunately they
leaked terribly with a flat drop gasket in the mainline (in a
handhole application). Design flaw that was never tested
apparently. They were supposed to be redesigning but it shook my
confidence in the product & company. Ive never liked split rubber
grommets which is what these use on the mainline side. We also
found their field install connectors to be more difficult to get
a good install vs other connectors.

Ultimately we just stayed with a fusion spliced drop in a Tyco
450 case. BUT if we were going to do an aerial project I would at
least re-evaluate them. I would probably try to get the drop
assemblies made in China vs buying from multilink or terminating
bulk cable.



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Commscope and Multilink both make aerial closures like this.

Even if I take 10 minutes to put a connector on the cable,
that's still
faster than taking a closure off the strand, bringing it down
into your
truck/trailer, break the seal, fusion splice, reseal, rehang,
re-tie the
slack.

They intend for you to use preterminated cables, but I think
that has to
come with a lot of waste so I'm not 100% sold on that. That's
why I'm
experimenting with terminations on drop cables.

I suppose I seek comment on both the termination process and
also
whether this is a stupid idea to start with.

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[AFMUG] OT my new look

[chuck]

I think it is fully launched now.  I would appreciate feedback.
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Happy New Year Vatos Locos

[Jaime Solorza]

Yep...I unfriended it from my Facebook

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 8:57 AM  Oh, so it is one of those, Trylon, right?  Formed sheet metal.  I only
> bought one once, never again.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 9, 2019 9:39 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Happy New Year Vatos Locos
>
> Angled...painful!
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
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>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 5:05 PM Lewis Bergman 
> wrote:
>
>> I still own a 550 footer like that. It is a real PITA.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 3:09 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Well at least it looks like you have something horizontal to stand on it
>>> looks like.  I used to have to climb one where each brace was on an angle
>>> and the vertical side of the brace was up instead of down.  Hard on the
>>> feet and ankles.
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 6, 2019 1:51 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Fwd: Happy New Year Vatos Locos
>>>
>>> I dislike these towers
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
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>>> Date: Sun, Jan 6, 2019, 12:10 PM
>>> Subject: Happy New Year Vatos Locos
>>> To: Animal Farm 
>>>
>>>
>>> I dislike these towers with a passion.
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Re: [AFMUG] Virtual fiber

[Craig Schmaderer]

So do I need to start advertising my fiber as “physical fiber works by using 
sharks with lasers to connect customers to the internet."  I remember a time 
when I once thought this business was going to be that easy.

From: AF  On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 4:55 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Virtual fiber

Telus has been calling its VDSL2 based last mile service, from curb boxes with 
small Huawei DSLAMs, and in the basements of MDUs, "Optik" for a long time. 
With marketing bullshit materials that have billboards, bus stop ads, ads on 
buses and such showing fiber optic cables.

And that's a huge ILEC.

On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 6:40 AM Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Reminds me of a Century Link ad campaign for DSL.  They called it fiber 
service, the fiber delivered high speed to a point right outside your home or 
business (as long as right out side was within 10,000 feet)

From: Tim Withrow via AF
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 12:07 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Tim Withrow
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Virtual fiber


"virtual fiber works by using wireless signals to connect customers to the 
internet."

"Though the technology FiberXstream uses is available to the mass market"

Sounds like someone has great ambitions and has got overzealous with marketing 
rhetoric for a wireless network.


On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 TJ Trout mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> 
wrote:
Anyone know what virtual fiber is and why it's harder to deploy than 
traditional fiber?? 藍藍

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[AFMUG] Tales from the Towers Chapter 66 posted

[Rory Conaway]

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Happy New Year Vatos Locos

[Adam Moffett]

Flat sides up isn't that good either because they slope towards the 
leg.  You end up with your foot wedged into the edge of the vertical 
leg.   You gotta install pegs on one of the legs.  Also install 
something to stand on underneath your antenna mount positions.


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Well at least it looks like you have something horizontal to stand on 
it looks like.  I used to have to climb one where each brace was on an 
angle and the vertical side of the brace was up instead of down.  Hard 
on the feet and ankles.

*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Sunday, January 6, 2019 1:51 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Fwd: Happy New Year Vatos Locos
I dislike these towers
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[AFMUG] OTDR

[chuck]

I need another OTDR.  Anyone have a modestly priced unit that they really like. 
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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Happy New Year Vatos Locos

[chuck]

Oh, so it is one of those, Trylon, right?  Formed sheet metal.  I only bought 
one once, never again.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2019 9:39 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Happy New Year Vatos Locos

Angled...painful!

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390


On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 5:05 PM Lewis Bergman  wrote:

  I still own a 550 footer like that. It is a real PITA.


  On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 3:09 PM  wrote:

Well at least it looks like you have something horizontal to stand on it 
looks like.  I used to have to climb one where each brace was on an angle and 
the vertical side of the brace was up instead of down.  Hard on the feet and 
ankles.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 1:51 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Fwd: Happy New Year Vatos Locos

I dislike these towers

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Date: Sun, Jan 6, 2019, 12:10 PM
Subject: Happy New Year Vatos Locos
To: Animal Farm 




I dislike these towers with a passion. 

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Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Happy New Year Vatos Locos

[Jaime Solorza]

Angled...painful!
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390


On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 5:05 PM Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> I still own a 550 footer like that. It is a real PITA.
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 3:09 PM  wrote:
>
>> Well at least it looks like you have something horizontal to stand on it
>> looks like.  I used to have to climb one where each brace was on an angle
>> and the vertical side of the brace was up instead of down.  Hard on the
>> feet and ankles.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 6, 2019 1:51 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Fwd: Happy New Year Vatos Locos
>>
>> I dislike these towers
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Jaime Solorza 
>> Date: Sun, Jan 6, 2019, 12:10 PM
>> Subject: Happy New Year Vatos Locos
>> To: Animal Farm 
>>
>>
>> I dislike these towers with a passion.
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic

[Dennis Burgess via AF]

The question is are your forcing secure communications, SSL and TLS vs sending 
their password in clear text.  Assuming you are running your own servers.  If 
you are not forcing users to use secure method of password transmissions, then 
yes, you could be held liable.  Is it going to get to that, doubt it, but 
still.  Make sure that you have SSL and TLS setup, make sure that you don’t 
allow access to your mail server without a secured method.    I have seen it 
time and time again.


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Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
http://www.linktechs.net
Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 11:07 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic

I had a customer call yesterday saying he suddenly received 4000 emails in one 
day, plus 2 of his credit cards were “hacked” by which he means fraudulent 
purchases.  And somehow he is thinking this is his ISPs fault.  I have heard 
lots of email problems through the years, but suddenly 4000 emails in one day 
is a new one, especially if they all passed the spam filter.  And as far as his 
Best Buy credit card which he says he hasn’t used in 2 years and isn’t on his 
computer, all I can say is who has a Best Buy credit card?


From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 4:56 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic

17225Received
13481Sent

30706Total

14.76 emails per hour either read or written if confined to work hours only.
Averages 1 every 4 minutes.

Additionally about 9229 animal farm emails for fun.

And my kids think I should also text and FB and tweet and and and
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Re: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic

[Mike Hammett]

I had that happen several years ago. It was before I adopted more secure 
password policies... lots of shared passwords. Someone logged into my Best Buy 
account, changed the e-mail address, changed the password, bought a bunch of 
shit on my Best Buy credit card. I think 7 brand new iPad Airs. Well, before, 
during, and after this process I got flooded with a bunch of legitimate 
newsletter subscriptions. Because they were legitimate, they all made it 
through the filters. I also then had to manually unsubscribe from all of them. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




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From: "Ken Hohhof"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 11:07:14 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic 



I had a customer call yesterday saying he suddenly received 4000 emails in one 
day, plus 2 of his credit cards were “hacked” by which he means fraudulent 
purchases. And somehow he is thinking this is his ISPs fault. I have heard lots 
of email problems through the years, but suddenly 4000 emails in one day is a 
new one, especially if they all passed the spam filter. And as far as his Best 
Buy credit card which he says he hasn’t used in 2 years and isn’t on his 
computer, all I can say is who has a Best Buy credit card? 




From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 4:56 PM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT My 2018 Email Traffic 







17225 Received 

13481 Sent 



30706 Total 



14.76 emails per hour either read or written if confined to work hours only. 

Averages 1 every 4 minutes. 



Additionally about 9229 animal farm emails for fun. 



And my kids think I should also text and FB and tweet and and and 
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Re: [AFMUG] Connector on a drop cable

[Adam Moffett]

I thought it was due to being more resistant to moisture.  I also wonder 
if the goop in the tube cushions the fiber from being crushed.



On 1/4/2019 11:09 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
Over never heard that comment of loose tube being better for 
underground. Do you know the reasoning?


On Fri, Jan 4, 2019, 4:20 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:


My only reason for sticking with the loose tube drop cable vs the
900um tight buffer is that it's my understanding that loose tube
is better for underground.  Maybe I should get past my prejudice
against tight buffered fiber.
-Adam


On 1/3/2019 8:56 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

My guys got good at using a AFL Fast Connect with a 3mm boot and
getting the distances right to just have the loose tube ending
inside the boot. Sometimes a piece of heatshrink over the end of
the boot as well. The loose tube is fairly rigid but it work OK
in our fairly large NIDs .

Now we are using tight buffer flat drop  so it just has 900um
right in the cable. But we also switched to fusion splicing a
pigtail at the NID so don't use a field install connector any
more either.

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:43 PM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm kind of winging it because I haven't found an example to
follow.  Is
there a better way to do this?

That's the orange bare fiber inside 16" of clear 900um
furcation tube.
The connector is an SOC made for 900um cable.  The furcation
tube is
pushed about 3/4" into the end of the buffer tube and then a
piece of
heat shrink ties the pieces of tubing together.

It seems durable enough, but it's a lot of finicky pieces. 
Took about
10 solid minutes to do this.  I'm sure with practice I can
shave that
down, but it just seems like there has to be an easier way.

In a moment I'll send a pic of why I'm bothering.

-Adam

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