Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Large dishes on sloped roofs

[TJ Trout]

If your that bored, can I come to Utah and learn me some fiber?

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 4:36 PM Chuck McCown  wrote:

>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chuck McCown
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:33 PM
> To: Chuck McCown
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs
>
> Really, this can easily mount to a normal roof.  And it is a bit more
> flexible as to the position of the legs.
> Just remove the magnets and lag it to the trusses.
>
> In any event this is where the design was when I stopped working on it.  I
> hate powerful magnets...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chuck McCown
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:29 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs
>
> Guess I am going to have to dust off my magnetic mount and see how easy it
> would be to convert it to this type of mounting.
> I can probably do something similar but better for the same or lower cost.
> Been bored lately, need something to do.
>
> My peltier cooled yeti cup is becoming a bit of a challenge in
> thermodynamics.  I have the prototype working but to make it into a real
> consumer product the dock will have to be as big as a keurig machine or I
> will have to put the hot side on the floor with chilled liquid tubes going
> up to the dock on the night stand.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Nate Burke
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:20 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs
>
> I think that's exactly what I was looking for.  Thanks ken!
>
> On 2/20/2019 6:15 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > What is your budget?
> >
> > https://www.3starinc.com/rohn_universal_roof_mount_r-urm.html
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:36 PM
> > To: Animal Farm 
> > Subject: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs
> >
> > Looking for feedback on installing large dishes (2'-3' licensed) on a
> > sloped
> > asphalt shingle roof.  I know that you can get some 2" J-legs with
> > outriggers, but they might not be tall enough to mount the dish.
> > Is it better to have the roofer come out and put in a pipe with a boot
> > somehow attached to the trusses inside the roof. These will have to be
> > somewhat hidden on the backside of the roof, so a ridgemount sled isn't
> an
> > option.  Anyone done one before? Pictures would be a bonus.
> >
> > Nate
> >
>
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[AFMUG] Cambium 450b high gain cable gland & cover

[Ken Hohhof]

Does everyone hate the 450b high gain cover with the cable gland as much as
we do?  Not sure why they felt the need to do this on the high gain but not
the mid gain.

 

I wish somebody (Chuck?) would sell an aftermarket conversion kit to make it
like the mid gain or the original Canopy SM.  With a snap on cover, water
kept out by gravity, and readily accessible alignment tool port.

 

There are other mechanical things I hate about the product, like the screw
in the back that you have to tighten ever so gingerly, and the 4 threaded
inserts that seem to have manufacturing quality issues like getting covered
over with plastic.  Or the occasional feedtube that doesn't quite want to
latch into place.  Or how much work it is to convert them to mount on the
left side of the pole.  But the stupid cover with the cable gland is an
annoyance every single time.

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Large dishes on sloped roofs

[Ken Hohhof]

That's kind of similar to this:
https://www.commscope.com/catalog/tools_accessories/product_details.aspx?id=
2465

Good luck finding any place that actually stocks it.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 6:36 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Fw: Large dishes on sloped roofs



-Original Message-
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:33 PM
To: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

Really, this can easily mount to a normal roof.  And it is a bit more
flexible as to the position of the legs.
Just remove the magnets and lag it to the trusses.

In any event this is where the design was when I stopped working on it.  I
hate powerful magnets...

-Original Message-
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:29 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

Guess I am going to have to dust off my magnetic mount and see how easy it
would be to convert it to this type of mounting.
I can probably do something similar but better for the same or lower cost.
Been bored lately, need something to do.

My peltier cooled yeti cup is becoming a bit of a challenge in
thermodynamics.  I have the prototype working but to make it into a real
consumer product the dock will have to be as big as a keurig machine or I
will have to put the hot side on the floor with chilled liquid tubes going
up to the dock on the night stand.

-Original Message-
From: Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

I think that's exactly what I was looking for.  Thanks ken!

On 2/20/2019 6:15 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> What is your budget?
>
> https://www.3starinc.com/rohn_universal_roof_mount_r-urm.html
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:36 PM
> To: Animal Farm 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs
>
> Looking for feedback on installing large dishes (2'-3' licensed) on a 
> sloped asphalt shingle roof.  I know that you can get some 2" J-legs 
> with outriggers, but they might not be tall enough to mount the dish.
> Is it better to have the roofer come out and put in a pipe with a boot 
> somehow attached to the trusses inside the roof. These will have to be 
> somewhat hidden on the backside of the roof, so a ridgemount sled 
> isn't an option.  Anyone done one before? Pictures would be a bonus.
>
> Nate
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Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

[Ken Hohhof]

Or you can make anything out of Unistrut.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jesse DuPont
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 6:23 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Nate Burke 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

 

We built this sled for the sloped part of a roof. We used aluminum angle. You'd 
probably want to use larger angle than we used, but any pipe size could be 
accommodated. Bolt through into attic with backing (wood or more angle) would 
be sufficient and easy to seal (we did mastic strips under the angle and 
siliconed the bolts).

Jesse DuPont

Network Architect
email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net  
Celerity Networks LLC

Celerity Broadband LLC
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On 2/20/19 4:35 PM, Nate Burke wrote:

Looking for feedback on installing large dishes (2'-3' licensed) on a sloped 
asphalt shingle roof.  I know that you can get some 2" J-legs with outriggers, 
but they might not be tall enough to mount the dish.  Is it better to have the 
roofer come out and put in a pipe with a boot somehow attached to the trusses 
inside the roof. These will have to be somewhat hidden on the backside of the 
roof, so a ridgemount sled isn't an option.  Anyone done one before? Pictures 
would be a bonus. 

Nate 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

[Chuck McCown]

Guess I am going to have to dust off my magnetic mount and see how easy it 
would be to convert it to this type of mounting.
I can probably do something similar but better for the same or lower cost. 
Been bored lately, need something to do.


My peltier cooled yeti cup is becoming a bit of a challenge in 
thermodynamics.  I have the prototype working but to make it into a real 
consumer product the dock will have to be as big as a keurig machine or I 
will have to put the hot side on the floor with chilled liquid tubes going 
up to the dock on the night stand.


-Original Message- 
From: Nate Burke

Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

I think that's exactly what I was looking for.  Thanks ken!

On 2/20/2019 6:15 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

What is your budget?

https://www.3starinc.com/rohn_universal_roof_mount_r-urm.html


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:36 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

Looking for feedback on installing large dishes (2'-3' licensed) on a 
sloped

asphalt shingle roof.  I know that you can get some 2" J-legs with
outriggers, but they might not be tall enough to mount the dish.
Is it better to have the roofer come out and put in a pipe with a boot
somehow attached to the trusses inside the roof. These will have to be
somewhat hidden on the backside of the roof, so a ridgemount sled isn't an
option.  Anyone done one before? Pictures would be a bonus.

Nate




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Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

[Nate Burke]

I think that's exactly what I was looking for.  Thanks ken!

On 2/20/2019 6:15 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

What is your budget?

https://www.3starinc.com/rohn_universal_roof_mount_r-urm.html


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:36 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

Looking for feedback on installing large dishes (2'-3' licensed) on a sloped
asphalt shingle roof.  I know that you can get some 2" J-legs with
outriggers, but they might not be tall enough to mount the dish.
Is it better to have the roofer come out and put in a pipe with a boot
somehow attached to the trusses inside the roof. These will have to be
somewhat hidden on the backside of the roof, so a ridgemount sled isn't an
option.  Anyone done one before? Pictures would be a bonus.

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Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

[Ken Hohhof]

What is your budget?

https://www.3starinc.com/rohn_universal_roof_mount_r-urm.html


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:36 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

Looking for feedback on installing large dishes (2'-3' licensed) on a sloped
asphalt shingle roof.  I know that you can get some 2" J-legs with
outriggers, but they might not be tall enough to mount the dish.  
Is it better to have the roofer come out and put in a pipe with a boot
somehow attached to the trusses inside the roof. These will have to be
somewhat hidden on the backside of the roof, so a ridgemount sled isn't an
option.  Anyone done one before? Pictures would be a bonus.

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Re: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

[Chuck McCown]

Tower from the ground, eave bracket is probably the best way.

If you cannot put a sled on the apex, then I think you are going to have to 
drill a hole in the roof, put some kind of plate across a couple of trusses 
to take the vertical load and then bolt to the trusses for side load.


If it can be mounted such that it is essentially touching the roof, I am 
sure you can do some kind of heavy duty tripod that is mounted to the 
roofing itself.  Similar to my magnetic mount that I never released.


-Original Message- 
From: Nate Burke

Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 4:35 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Large dishes on sloped roofs

Looking for feedback on installing large dishes (2'-3' licensed) on a
sloped asphalt shingle roof.  I know that you can get some 2" J-legs
with outriggers, but they might not be tall enough to mount the dish.
Is it better to have the roofer come out and put in a pipe with a boot
somehow attached to the trusses inside the roof. These will have to be
somewhat hidden on the backside of the roof, so a ridgemount sled isn't
an option.  Anyone done one before? Pictures would be a bonus.

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Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux alert settings for Librenms?

[Sam Lambie]

the auto discovery display the voltage values that I am looking for, so I
guess no extra steps are needed there. But I am having issues figuring out
how to create an alert for say "voltage" and then configure it to alert me
when said voltage goes below a certain threshold and comes back up again.
Then I would like to apply that rule to certain type of device only.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 10:09 AM David Coudron 
wrote:

> We haven’t set the Packetflux up in LibreNMS, but if you have an OID for
> the inputs you want to monitor, you can set up LibreNMS to monitor them and
> alert off them.
>
>
>
> I can send along what we did on OIDs that LibreNMS didn’t already have in
> its discovery if you want.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> David Coudron
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Sam Lambie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 20, 2019 10:09 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Packetflux alert settings for Librenms?
>
>
>
> Hey all,
>
> Has anyone set up alerts with a Sitemonitor and the power Inputs with
> Librenms? Got anything that you would care to share?
>
> I am still trying to wrap my head around setting up alerts and exactly
> what alerts are important.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Sam
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux alert settings for Librenms?

[David Coudron]

We haven’t set the Packetflux up in LibreNMS, but if you have an OID for the 
inputs you want to monitor, you can set up LibreNMS to monitor them and alert 
off them.

I can send along what we did on OIDs that LibreNMS didn’t already have in its 
discovery if you want.

Thanks,

David Coudron


From: AF  On Behalf Of Sam Lambie
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 10:09 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Packetflux alert settings for Librenms?

Hey all,
Has anyone set up alerts with a Sitemonitor and the power Inputs with Librenms? 
Got anything that you would care to share?
I am still trying to wrap my head around setting up alerts and exactly what 
alerts are important.

Thanks
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Re: [AFMUG] Troubleshooting Fiber Question

[Craig Schmaderer]

Matt and Chris are correct.   

It is so easy to see what is going on in my fiber network.  I can see power 
outages, low light levels, dying gasp, so much data.  (I use Calix).  I would 
say support/issue on my fiber network are 5% of my wireless network.  If you 
build you fiber network to survive, you will have very few issues.  It is just 
like wireless though, if you do not know what you are doing or you build it 
wrong, you will be fighting it all the time.  

Here are some examples of email alerts.

Network: skywaveCoE7sh2
SID: NTWK-skywaveCoE7sh2
ID: 1-1-5-3224
Device Type: E7-2
Source IP: 
Subscriber ID: null
User Description: 
Severity: Minor Alarm
Alarm Type: ont-dying-gasp
Alarm Description: ONT Dying Gasp
Facility: ONT
Location: N/A
Service Affect: Yes
Message Data: N/A
Observed Behavior: N/A
Action: Fault Set
Date and Time: Wed Feb 20 10:39:13 CST 2019



Network: skywaveCoE7sh1
SID: NTWK-skywaveCoE7sh1
ID: 1-1-16-2516
Device Type: Ae Ont Device
Source IP: 
Subscriber ID: null
User Description:
Severity: Minor Alarm
Alarm Type: onBattery
Alarm Description: Main Power Failure
Facility: AE ONT
Location: N/A
Service Affect: No
Message Data: N/A
Observed Behavior: N/A
Action: Fault Set
Date and Time: Sat Feb 16 09:40:20 CST 2019

On 2/20/19, 7:58 AM, "AF on behalf of Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
 wrote:

Matt,

I  agree  with Chris.  We do GPON, PPPoE, and mostly indoor units.  We
have an internally written web page that will show us everyone that is
off  line.   Using this page we can determine very quickly if it is an
individual, regional or system issue.

The status lights on the indoor unit may it very easy to tell if it is
a power issue or a fiber issue.

90% of the time if it is a cut fiber, we can find it quickly.  Most of
the  time it is oblivious where they were digging.  We also will
use  the locator to see where the trace wire has been cut.  Finally we
will  bring  out  the OTDR.  If the customer doesn't have light we can
shoot from the customer side using any wave length.  If we are shoot a
live  fiber  we will use our GPON OTDR that uses a wave length outside
of our range.

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Wednesday, February 20, 2019, 7:20:55 AM, you wrote:

MH> With wireless - it's very easy to determine where the source of an 
MH> outage is can I access the local side?  If so, then dispatch to 
MH> remote side. if not, then dispatch to local side.

MH> How do you do that with fiber?  Especially GPON?  How do I know if an 
MH> outage is caused by "power out to end points" or if something just 
MH> "drove through/dug through my fiber lines", without dispatching someone
MH> first to the local side to shoot an OTDR?

MH> Basically, how do you efficiently dispatch to resolve an issue in a 
MH> timely fashion with fiber?  Is there a way to shoot an OTDR from an SFP
MH> optic so you know if it's a break or a remote end issue before even 
MH> dispatching a tech?


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[AFMUG] Packetflux alert settings for Librenms?

[Sam Lambie]

Hey all,
Has anyone set up alerts with a Sitemonitor and the power Inputs with
Librenms? Got anything that you would care to share?
I am still trying to wrap my head around setting up alerts and exactly what
alerts are important.

Thanks
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Re: [AFMUG] Troubleshooting Fiber Question

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Matt,

I  agree  with Chris.  We do GPON, PPPoE, and mostly indoor units.  We
have an internally written web page that will show us everyone that is
off  line.   Using this page we can determine very quickly if it is an
individual, regional or system issue.

The status lights on the indoor unit may it very easy to tell if it is
a power issue or a fiber issue.

90% of the time if it is a cut fiber, we can find it quickly.  Most of
the  time it is oblivious where they were digging.  We also will
use  the locator to see where the trace wire has been cut.  Finally we
will  bring  out  the OTDR.  If the customer doesn't have light we can
shoot from the customer side using any wave length.  If we are shoot a
live  fiber  we will use our GPON OTDR that uses a wave length outside
of our range.

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Wednesday, February 20, 2019, 7:20:55 AM, you wrote:

MH> With wireless - it's very easy to determine where the source of an 
MH> outage is can I access the local side?  If so, then dispatch to 
MH> remote side. if not, then dispatch to local side.

MH> How do you do that with fiber?  Especially GPON?  How do I know if an 
MH> outage is caused by "power out to end points" or if something just 
MH> "drove through/dug through my fiber lines", without dispatching someone
MH> first to the local side to shoot an OTDR?

MH> Basically, how do you efficiently dispatch to resolve an issue in a 
MH> timely fashion with fiber?  Is there a way to shoot an OTDR from an SFP
MH> optic so you know if it's a break or a remote end issue before even 
MH> dispatching a tech?


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Re: [AFMUG] Troubleshooting Fiber Question

[Chris Fabien]

Most of the GPON platforms I have looked into support that. We use ZTE and
it has this info, shows whether an ONU thats offline was due to power loss
or signal loss.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 8:07 AM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Do the ONU support dying gasp functionality? Where they can send back a I
> just lost power message?
>
> On Feb 20, 2019, at 7:53 AM, Chris Fabien  wrote:
>
> Your first troubleshooting step is look at customers down and why they are
> down. Most OLTs will track whether an ONU is offline due to power loss vs
> signal loss.
>
> When you get to finding an actual break, if the fiber is dark from the
> customer end you ban use a normal otdr. They also make otdr that can run
> trace on an active PON by using a high wavelength like 1650nm.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 7:22 AM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> With wireless - it's very easy to determine where the source of an
>> outage is can I access the local side?  If so, then dispatch to
>> remote side. if not, then dispatch to local side.
>>
>> How do you do that with fiber?  Especially GPON?  How do I know if an
>> outage is caused by "power out to end points" or if something just
>> "drove through/dug through my fiber lines", without dispatching someone
>> first to the local side to shoot an OTDR?
>>
>> Basically, how do you efficiently dispatch to resolve an issue in a
>> timely fashion with fiber?  Is there a way to shoot an OTDR from an SFP
>> optic so you know if it's a break or a remote end issue before even
>> dispatching a tech?
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Re: [AFMUG] ATA hell

[dave]

I ll post some info soon..

bury a wire is not an option because the reason for wireless isolation.


On 2/19/19 5:00 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
So, what triggers the gate mechanism?  Do you just dial a code and the 
gate opens?  If so, doesn’t sound like you need anything.

Or is this a call box type of thing?
*From:* dave
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2019 3:55 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] ATA hell

I am looking for a solution to connect a security gate with touch tone 
dial pad to remove the existing phone lines to the gate and say good 
bye to ATT.


I had thoughts of using some ATAs back to back and one for the sip ...

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Re: [AFMUG] ATA hell

[Tim Cailloux]

Is this a Doorking keypad (or similar)?  They have a bunch of accessories
to retrofit IP into analog systems (see:
https://www.doorking.com/accessories/telephone-accessories/voip-integration
).

I did this in the past, and justified the ROI to the customer because
lightning in the area would always fry the controller, the keypad, or both
(in addition to the AT POTS cost).  I ran fiber + DC instead of
Ethernet.  It paid for itself in one summer season.

tim

On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 5:56 PM dave  wrote:

> I am looking for a solution to connect a security gate with touch tone
> dial pad to remove the existing phone lines to the gate and say good bye to
> ATT.
>
> I had thoughts of using some ATAs back to back and one for the sip ...
>
> Any thoughts and suggestions are welcome.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Troubleshooting Fiber Question

[Matt Hoppes]

Do the ONU support dying gasp functionality? Where they can send back a I just 
lost power message?

> On Feb 20, 2019, at 7:53 AM, Chris Fabien  wrote:
> 
> Your first troubleshooting step is look at customers down and why they are 
> down. Most OLTs will track whether an ONU is offline due to power loss vs 
> signal loss. 
> 
> When you get to finding an actual break, if the fiber is dark from the 
> customer end you ban use a normal otdr. They also make otdr that can run 
> trace on an active PON by using a high wavelength like 1650nm.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 7:22 AM Matt Hoppes 
>>  wrote:
>> With wireless - it's very easy to determine where the source of an 
>> outage is can I access the local side?  If so, then dispatch to 
>> remote side. if not, then dispatch to local side.
>> 
>> How do you do that with fiber?  Especially GPON?  How do I know if an 
>> outage is caused by "power out to end points" or if something just 
>> "drove through/dug through my fiber lines", without dispatching someone 
>> first to the local side to shoot an OTDR?
>> 
>> Basically, how do you efficiently dispatch to resolve an issue in a 
>> timely fashion with fiber?  Is there a way to shoot an OTDR from an SFP 
>> optic so you know if it's a break or a remote end issue before even 
>> dispatching a tech?
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Re: [AFMUG] Troubleshooting Fiber Question

[Chris Fabien]

Your first troubleshooting step is look at customers down and why they are
down. Most OLTs will track whether an ONU is offline due to power loss vs
signal loss.

When you get to finding an actual break, if the fiber is dark from the
customer end you ban use a normal otdr. They also make otdr that can run
trace on an active PON by using a high wavelength like 1650nm.



On Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 7:22 AM Matt Hoppes 
wrote:

> With wireless - it's very easy to determine where the source of an
> outage is can I access the local side?  If so, then dispatch to
> remote side. if not, then dispatch to local side.
>
> How do you do that with fiber?  Especially GPON?  How do I know if an
> outage is caused by "power out to end points" or if something just
> "drove through/dug through my fiber lines", without dispatching someone
> first to the local side to shoot an OTDR?
>
> Basically, how do you efficiently dispatch to resolve an issue in a
> timely fashion with fiber?  Is there a way to shoot an OTDR from an SFP
> optic so you know if it's a break or a remote end issue before even
> dispatching a tech?
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Re: [AFMUG] Troubleshooting Fiber Question

[Colin Stanners]

For something like GPON, looking at which customers are down will help get
an idea if it's a power issue or fiber cut. Some customers have UPSes so
that will help determine that.

 If you really want to track fiber cuts, you can do a "loopback" at the far
end of a fiber by allocating 2 lines to that purposes, tracking if the
ethernet link passing through that loop ever goes down.

There are SFPs with very limited built-in OTDRs but really you need to send
a tech onsite to do anything useful.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019, 6:22 AM Matt Hoppes  With wireless - it's very easy to determine where the source of an
> outage is can I access the local side?  If so, then dispatch to
> remote side. if not, then dispatch to local side.
>
> How do you do that with fiber?  Especially GPON?  How do I know if an
> outage is caused by "power out to end points" or if something just
> "drove through/dug through my fiber lines", without dispatching someone
> first to the local side to shoot an OTDR?
>
> Basically, how do you efficiently dispatch to resolve an issue in a
> timely fashion with fiber?  Is there a way to shoot an OTDR from an SFP
> optic so you know if it's a break or a remote end issue before even
> dispatching a tech?
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[AFMUG] Troubleshooting Fiber Question

[Matt Hoppes]

With wireless - it's very easy to determine where the source of an 
outage is can I access the local side?  If so, then dispatch to 
remote side. if not, then dispatch to local side.


How do you do that with fiber?  Especially GPON?  How do I know if an 
outage is caused by "power out to end points" or if something just 
"drove through/dug through my fiber lines", without dispatching someone 
first to the local side to shoot an OTDR?


Basically, how do you efficiently dispatch to resolve an issue in a 
timely fashion with fiber?  Is there a way to shoot an OTDR from an SFP 
optic so you know if it's a break or a remote end issue before even 
dispatching a tech?


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