[AFMUG] Cielo 22/23 GHz antennas, IDUs, and ODUs.

2021-07-16 Thread Carl Peterson
Any interest in this stuff?  Cleaning out our Baltimore warehouse and it
seems a pity to trash it but at the same time it has been taking up space
for years.


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Re: [AFMUG] Cielo 22/23 GHz antennas, IDUs, and ODUs.

2021-07-16 Thread Carl Peterson
I've also got 24 NIB 450b SMs (in 4 packs unopened) if someone wants to
make an offer before they go on Ebay.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 10:27 AM Carl Peterson 
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> Any interest in this stuff?  Cleaning out our Baltimore warehouse and it
> seems a pity to trash it but at the same time it has been taking up space
> for years.
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

2021-07-16 Thread Carl Peterson
We have recently seen similar issues when using Chuck's surge suppressors.
Not sure what changed, the RJ 45s, The jack Chuck uses, or my techs but we
figured out that it was caused by the cable getting pulled sideways in the
surge enclosure and the tolerance stack on the RJ/RJ jack just not working
in our favor.  Now we add a zip tie in the little enclosure to force a
bend/cross in the in/out cable.

P.S. If you are reading this Chuck we would really really like an enclosure
with a separate in/out feed similar to the 600SS or something like that so
the cable can go straight up into the jack and not get pulled sideways.

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 10:44 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I've put up alot of the F300, haven't seen any problems.  Bad cable or
> Radio?  Did you try a different POE?  9/10 times Ethernet seems to be a
> problem with the termination and/or cable.  I've done 1000's of ends, but
> just the other day I did one with one blue and green wire switched, I think
> that caused weird Ethernet problems.  Of course it was the end at the radio
> and not the easy-to-get-to inside connection.
>
> On 7/15/2021 9:32 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Installed a PTP  link with great signal but Ethernet port will not lock at
> 1000FDX...only 100FDx...if i force it it loses connection or 10mbps hex...
> Latest firmware...
> Any ideas?
> I even put a Trendnet Ethernet switch between Poe and Edgeswitch...
> Thanks
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

2021-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I understand and wish that enclosure existed but the company that makes that 
particular enclosure will not do a version like you ask.  I would love it if 
there were 2 or 3 entrances in that enclosure.  They make larger ones but that 
is a problem too, they are larger.  Look at our multiple line surge products.  
We put up to 8 surge protectors in the same box.  That is a good box with a 
good seal.  

There is an intermediate size but I don’t think it seals very well.  And of 
course any larger box costs more.  Furthermore they now require minimum 
purchase quantities of 1000 pcs.   That is a gamble in and of itself.   Will 
customers pay say $5 more to have three entrances.  Cost me probably $15K just 
to find out.  

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 10:49 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

We have recently seen similar issues when using Chuck's surge suppressors.  Not 
sure what changed, the RJ 45s, The jack Chuck uses, or my techs but we figured 
out that it was caused by the cable getting pulled sideways in the surge 
enclosure and the tolerance stack on the RJ/RJ jack just not working in our 
favor.  Now we add a zip tie in the little enclosure to force a bend/cross in 
the in/out cable.   

P.S. If you are reading this Chuck we would really really like an enclosure 
with a separate in/out feed similar to the 600SS or something like that so the 
cable can go straight up into the jack and not get pulled sideways.  

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 10:44 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

  I've put up alot of the F300, haven't seen any problems.  Bad cable or Radio? 
 Did you try a different POE?  9/10 times Ethernet seems to be a problem with 
the termination and/or cable.  I've done 1000's of ends, but just the other day 
I did one with one blue and green wire switched, I think that caused weird 
Ethernet problems.  Of course it was the end at the radio and not the 
easy-to-get-to inside connection.  


  On 7/15/2021 9:32 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Installed a PTP  link with great signal but Ethernet port will not lock at 
1000FDX...only 100FDx...if i force it it loses connection or 10mbps hex... 
Latest firmware...
Any ideas?
I even put a Trendnet Ethernet switch between Poe and Edgeswitch...
Thanks

 



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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

2021-07-16 Thread Jason McKemie
I've drilled holes in the bottom of the DC SS enclosures, directly below
the connectors.  Works well enough for those, it would be a bit more of a
pain with the RJ45 connector though since you'd have to install the end
afterwards.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 11:51 AM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> We have recently seen similar issues when using Chuck's surge
> suppressors.  Not sure what changed, the RJ 45s, The jack Chuck uses, or my
> techs but we figured out that it was caused by the cable getting pulled
> sideways in the surge enclosure and the tolerance stack on the RJ/RJ jack
> just not working in our favor.  Now we add a zip tie in the little
> enclosure to force a bend/cross in the in/out cable.
>
> P.S. If you are reading this Chuck we would really really like an
> enclosure with a separate in/out feed similar to the 600SS or
> something like that so the cable can go straight up into the jack and not
> get pulled sideways.
>
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 10:44 PM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> I've put up alot of the F300, haven't seen any problems.  Bad cable or
>> Radio?  Did you try a different POE?  9/10 times Ethernet seems to be a
>> problem with the termination and/or cable.  I've done 1000's of ends, but
>> just the other day I did one with one blue and green wire switched, I think
>> that caused weird Ethernet problems.  Of course it was the end at the radio
>> and not the easy-to-get-to inside connection.
>>
>> On 7/15/2021 9:32 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> Installed a PTP  link with great signal but Ethernet port will not lock
>> at 1000FDX...only 100FDx...if i force it it loses connection or 10mbps
>> hex...
>> Latest firmware...
>> Any ideas?
>> I even put a Trendnet Ethernet switch between Poe and Edgeswitch...
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

2021-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
There is not enough room to make a hole large enough for a grommet that will 
allow a cat5 plug to pass.  We have about .735” to work with.  You need a 
minimum of .750 hole and the grommet itself is 1” dia.  

I could do a split grommet that would just fit the CAT5 but then you will have 
to install the  grommet with cable filling it and that will be a big pain 
forcing it in.  The other seal that is already there slides out so you are not 
having to force a round grommet into the hole.  

It is easy if the grommet doesn’t have anything going through the center when 
you install it.  

I doubt no one wants to feed the wire through then install the plug.  

From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 11:56 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

I've drilled holes in the bottom of the DC SS enclosures, directly below the 
connectors.  Works well enough for those, it would be a bit more of a pain with 
the RJ45 connector though since you'd have to install the end afterwards.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 11:51 AM Carl Peterson  
wrote:

  We have recently seen similar issues when using Chuck's surge suppressors.  
Not sure what changed, the RJ 45s, The jack Chuck uses, or my techs but we 
figured out that it was caused by the cable getting pulled sideways in the 
surge enclosure and the tolerance stack on the RJ/RJ jack just not working in 
our favor.  Now we add a zip tie in the little enclosure to force a bend/cross 
in the in/out cable.   

  P.S. If you are reading this Chuck we would really really like an enclosure 
with a separate in/out feed similar to the 600SS or something like that so the 
cable can go straight up into the jack and not get pulled sideways.  

  On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 10:44 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

I've put up alot of the F300, haven't seen any problems.  Bad cable or 
Radio?  Did you try a different POE?  9/10 times Ethernet seems to be a problem 
with the termination and/or cable.  I've done 1000's of ends, but just the 
other day I did one with one blue and green wire switched, I think that caused 
weird Ethernet problems.  Of course it was the end at the radio and not the 
easy-to-get-to inside connection.  


On 7/15/2021 9:32 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

  Installed a PTP  link with great signal but Ethernet port will not lock 
at 1000FDX...only 100FDx...if i force it it loses connection or 10mbps hex... 
  Latest firmware...
  Any ideas?
  I even put a Trendnet Ethernet switch between Poe and Edgeswitch...
  Thanks

   



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Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact

2021-07-16 Thread Mike Hammett
They changed their name? 




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From: "Jan-GAMs"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:00:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact 


You must not be from around here. their reputation got so bad they changed 
their name 

On 7/14/21 12:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 



frontier does not play fast and loose. They follow all of the rules and are 
completely on the up an up. When I think of an upstanding company, I think of 
Frontier 


On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:52 PM Mark Radabaugh < m...@amplex.net > wrote: 


I can’t prove it yet, but I’m pretty sure there a number of mobile and iLEC’s 
running CBRS gear illegally. Frontier has been playing pretty fast and loose 
with the rules around here. 

Mark 

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us > wrote: 
> 
> Does anyone know how to get in touch with a T-Mobile RF engineer? 
> 
> Our CBRS network has been receiving heavy interference from what we believe 
> is a new T-Mobile site at an American tower facility. 
> 
> The equipment isn’t registered with the SAS and appears to be operating in 
> the part 90 portion of the band 3650-3700mhz as a part 90 device and not a 
> part 96 CBRS device. 
> 
> American tower has been no help other than opening a ticket. 
> 
> Federated is our SAS vendor and they haven’t been any help either other than 
> telling us it’s not in the SAS. 
> 
> I’ve also done an application search in the FCC auction 105 (CRBS) site, but 
> T-mobile must have been bidding under a different name. 
> 
> Any help is much appreciated, 
> 
> -Sean Heskett 
> 970-846-8065 
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

2021-07-16 Thread Jan-GAMs
I use this stuff to fill holes, does a good job at keeping bugs and 
water out:  ($3) 
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gardner-Bender-1-lb-Plug-Duct-Seal-Compound-DS-110/100212441



On 7/16/21 12:23 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
There is not enough room to make a hole large enough for a grommet 
that will allow a cat5 plug to pass.  We have about .735” to work 
with.  You need a minimum of .750 hole and the grommet itself is 1” dia.
I could do a split grommet that would just fit the CAT5 but then you 
will have to install the  grommet with cable filling it and that will 
be a big pain forcing it in.  The other seal that is already there 
slides out so you are not having to force a round grommet into the hole.
It is easy if the grommet doesn’t have anything going through the 
center when you install it.

I doubt no one wants to feed the wire through then install the plug.
*From:* Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2021 11:56 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question
I've drilled holes in the bottom of the DC SS enclosures, directly 
below the connectors.  Works well enough for those, it would be a bit 
more of a pain with the RJ45 connector though since you'd have to 
install the end afterwards.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 11:51 AM Carl Peterson 
 wrote:


We have recently seen similar issues when using Chuck's surge
suppressors.  Not sure what changed, the RJ 45s, The jack Chuck
uses, or my techs but we figured out that it was caused by the
cable getting pulled sideways in the surge enclosure and the
tolerance stack on the RJ/RJ jack just not working in our favor. 
Now we add a zip tie in the little enclosure to force a bend/cross
in the in/out cable.
P.S. If you are reading this Chuck we would really really like an
enclosure with a separate in/out feed similar to the 600SS or
something like that so the cable can go straight up into the jack
and not get pulled sideways.
On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 10:44 PM Nate Burke 
wrote:

I've put up alot of the F300, haven't seen any problems.  Bad
cable or Radio? Did you try a different POE?  9/10 times
Ethernet seems to be a problem with the termination and/or
cable.  I've done 1000's of ends, but just the other day I did
one with one blue and green wire switched, I think that caused
weird Ethernet problems.  Of course it was the end at the
radio and not the easy-to-get-to inside connection.

On 7/15/2021 9:32 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Installed a PTP  link with great signal but Ethernet port
will not lock at 1000FDX...only 100FDx...if i force it it
loses connection or 10mbps hex...
Latest firmware...
Any ideas?
I even put a Trendnet Ethernet switch between Poe and
Edgeswitch...
Thanks




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Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact

2021-07-16 Thread Jan-GAMs
Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support, wouldn't 
take care of their customers, etc . We had to switch our phone 
service, it too sucked.  They used to be GE, then Verizon, then Frontier 
and now they're zipply.  Same people, same company, same trucks, same 
buildings.  Selling DSL as if it's fiber.  They have DSL nodes along the 
highway and they run some kind of converter to fiber and run that fiber 
to homes in the area.  The further they get down the road of course, the 
shittier the signal.  I think that's their MO: rip everyone off till the 
law-suits start, close shop and reappear with a new name.



We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to get 
6MBps of iffy service for $90/mo.  We give them 30MBps for $55/mo.  
They're real happy I knocked on their door.



On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

They changed their name?



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*From: *"Jan-GAMs" 
*To: *af@af.afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:00:01 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact

You must not be from around here.  their reputation got so bad they 
changed their name


On 7/14/21 12:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

frontier does not play fast and loose. They follow all of the
rules and are completely on the up an up. When I think of an
upstanding company, I think of Frontier

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:52 PM Mark Radabaugh mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:

I  can’t prove it yet, but I’m pretty sure there a number of
mobile and iLEC’s running CBRS gear illegally.   Frontier has
been playing pretty fast and loose with the rules around here.

Mark

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how to get in touch with a T-Mobile RF
engineer?
>
> Our CBRS network has been receiving heavy interference from
what we believe is a new T-Mobile site at an American tower
facility.
>
> The equipment isn’t registered with the SAS and appears to
be operating in the part 90 portion of the band 3650-3700mhz
as a part 90 device and not a part 96 CBRS device.
>
> American tower has been no help other than opening a ticket.
>
> Federated is our SAS vendor and they haven’t been any help
either other than telling us it’s not in the SAS.
>
> I’ve also done an application search in the FCC auction 105
(CRBS) site, but T-mobile must have been bidding under a
different name.
>
> Any help is much appreciated,
>
> -Sean Heskett
> 970-846-8065
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Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact

2021-07-16 Thread Mike Hammett
Zipply is totally different management than Frontier. 




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From: "Jan-GAMs"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:12:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact 


Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support, wouldn't take care 
of their customers, etc . We had to switch our phone service, it too 
sucked. They used to be GE, then Verizon, then Frontier and now they're zipply. 
Same people, same company, same trucks, same buildings. Selling DSL as if it's 
fiber. They have DSL nodes along the highway and they run some kind of 
converter to fiber and run that fiber to homes in the area. The further they 
get down the road of course, the shittier the signal. I think that's their MO: 
rip everyone off till the law-suits start, close shop and reappear with a new 
name. 


We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to get 6MBps of 
iffy service for $90/mo. We give them 30MBps for $55/mo. They're real happy I 
knocked on their door. 



On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



They changed their name? 




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- Original Message -

From: "Jan-GAMs"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:00:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact 


You must not be from around here. their reputation got so bad they changed 
their name 

On 7/14/21 12:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 



frontier does not play fast and loose. They follow all of the rules and are 
completely on the up an up. When I think of an upstanding company, I think of 
Frontier 


On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:52 PM Mark Radabaugh < m...@amplex.net > wrote: 


I can’t prove it yet, but I’m pretty sure there a number of mobile and iLEC’s 
running CBRS gear illegally. Frontier has been playing pretty fast and loose 
with the rules around here. 

Mark 

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us > wrote: 
> 
> Does anyone know how to get in touch with a T-Mobile RF engineer? 
> 
> Our CBRS network has been receiving heavy interference from what we believe 
> is a new T-Mobile site at an American tower facility. 
> 
> The equipment isn’t registered with the SAS and appears to be operating in 
> the part 90 portion of the band 3650-3700mhz as a part 90 device and not a 
> part 96 CBRS device. 
> 
> American tower has been no help other than opening a ticket. 
> 
> Federated is our SAS vendor and they haven’t been any help either other than 
> telling us it’s not in the SAS. 
> 
> I’ve also done an application search in the FCC auction 105 (CRBS) site, but 
> T-mobile must have been bidding under a different name. 
> 
> Any help is much appreciated, 
> 
> -Sean Heskett 
> 970-846-8065 
> -- 
> Sean Heskett 
> 
> ZIRKEL 
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

2021-07-16 Thread Darren Shea
I know there’s supposedly no such thing as a stupid question, so please be kind 
if this actually is one, but… 

 

Might there be a way to increase the distance between the cable jack and the 
bottom of the box? I don’t really have an issue when I’m cutting and crimping a 
new fitting on a cable, but if I want to use a premade cable with 
strain-relief, that’s when my mumbled curses start flying. Even a 
half-centimeter more of a gap might help…

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

 

There is not enough room to make a hole large enough for a grommet that will 
allow a cat5 plug to pass.  We have about .735” to work with.  You need a 
minimum of .750 hole and the grommet itself is 1” dia.  

 

I could do a split grommet that would just fit the CAT5 but then you will have 
to install the  grommet with cable filling it and that will be a big pain 
forcing it in.  The other seal that is already there slides out so you are not 
having to force a round grommet into the hole.  

 

It is easy if the grommet doesn’t have anything going through the center when 
you install it.  

 

I doubt no one wants to feed the wire through then install the plug.  

 

From: Jason McKemie 

Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 11:56 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

 

I've drilled holes in the bottom of the DC SS enclosures, directly below the 
connectors.  Works well enough for those, it would be a bit more of a pain with 
the RJ45 connector though since you'd have to install the end afterwards.

 

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 11:51 AM Carl Peterson  
wrote:

We have recently seen similar issues when using Chuck's surge suppressors.  Not 
sure what changed, the RJ 45s, The jack Chuck uses, or my techs but we figured 
out that it was caused by the cable getting pulled sideways in the surge 
enclosure and the tolerance stack on the RJ/RJ jack just not working in our 
favor.  Now we add a zip tie in the little enclosure to force a bend/cross in 
the in/out cable.   

 

P.S. If you are reading this Chuck we would really really like an enclosure 
with a separate in/out feed similar to the 600SS or something like that so the 
cable can go straight up into the jack and not get pulled sideways.  

 

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 10:44 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

I've put up alot of the F300, haven't seen any problems.  Bad cable or Radio?  
Did you try a different POE?  9/10 times Ethernet seems to be a problem with 
the termination and/or cable.  I've done 1000's of ends, but just the other day 
I did one with one blue and green wire switched, I think that caused weird 
Ethernet problems.  Of course it was the end at the radio and not the 
easy-to-get-to inside connection.  

On 7/15/2021 9:32 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

Installed a PTP  link with great signal but Ethernet port will not lock at 
1000FDX...only 100FDx...if i force it it loses connection or 10mbps hex... 

Latest firmware...

Any ideas?

I even put a Trendnet Ethernet switch between Poe and Edgeswitch...

Thanks





 

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Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact

2021-07-16 Thread Jan-GAMs
Well of course, you don't think they want the law-suits to follow them 
do you?  They blame the corporate, hold a circular firing squad and 
start-up a new company.  The local VP was someone I personally know.  He 
moved away on a new venture of his own, he started up a WISP, now he 
doesn't report to anybody other than his wife and customers.  He's much 
happier and healthy now.



On 7/16/21 1:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Zipply is totally different management than Frontier.



-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Jan-GAMs" 
*To: *af@af.afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, July 16, 2021 3:12:24 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact

Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support, wouldn't 
take care of their customers, etc . We had to switch our phone 
service, it too sucked.  They used to be GE, then Verizon, then 
Frontier and now they're zipply. Same people, same company, same 
trucks, same buildings. Selling DSL as if it's fiber.  They have DSL 
nodes along the highway and they run some kind of converter to fiber 
and run that fiber to homes in the area.  The further they get down 
the road of course, the shittier the signal.  I think that's their MO: 
rip everyone off till the law-suits start, close shop and reappear 
with a new name.



We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to get 
6MBps of iffy service for $90/mo.  We give them 30MBps for $55/mo.  
They're real happy I knocked on their door.



On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

They changed their name?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Jan-GAMs" 
*To: *af@af.afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:00:01 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact

You must not be from around here.  their reputation got so bad
they changed their name

On 7/14/21 12:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

frontier does not play fast and loose. They follow all of the
rules and are completely on the up an up. When I think of an
upstanding company, I think of Frontier

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:52 PM Mark Radabaugh
mailto:m...@amplex.net>> wrote:

I  can’t prove it yet, but I’m pretty sure there a number
of mobile and iLEC’s running CBRS gear illegally.
 Frontier has been playing pretty fast and loose with the
rules around here.

Mark

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Sean Heskett
mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how to get in touch with a T-Mobile RF
engineer?
>
> Our CBRS network has been receiving heavy interference
from what we believe is a new T-Mobile site at an American
tower facility.
>
> The equipment isn’t registered with the SAS and appears
to be operating in the part 90 portion of the band
3650-3700mhz as a part 90 device and not a part 96 CBRS
device.
>
> American tower has been no help other than opening a
ticket.
>
> Federated is our SAS vendor and they haven’t been any
help either other than telling us it’s not in the SAS.
>
> I’ve also done an application search in the FCC auction
105 (CRBS) site, but T-mobile must have been bidding under
a different name.
>
> Any help is much appreciated,
>
> -Sean Heskett
> 970-846-8065
> --
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>
> ZIRKEL
> 

Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact

2021-07-16 Thread Mike Hammett
I know someone at the top of Zipply. I'm paraphrasing, but he said something to 
the effect of, "We're trying to be the ILEC that doesn't suck.". 




- 
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jan-GAMs"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:33:26 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact 


Well of course, you don't think they want the law-suits to follow them do you? 
They blame the corporate, hold a circular firing squad and start-up a new 
company. The local VP was someone I personally know. He moved away on a new 
venture of his own, he started up a WISP, now he doesn't report to anybody 
other than his wife and customers. He's much happier and healthy now. 


On 7/16/21 1:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



Zipply is totally different management than Frontier. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jan-GAMs"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:12:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact 


Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support, wouldn't take care 
of their customers, etc . We had to switch our phone service, it too 
sucked. They used to be GE, then Verizon, then Frontier and now they're zipply. 
Same people, same company, same trucks, same buildings. Selling DSL as if it's 
fiber. They have DSL nodes along the highway and they run some kind of 
converter to fiber and run that fiber to homes in the area. The further they 
get down the road of course, the shittier the signal. I think that's their MO: 
rip everyone off till the law-suits start, close shop and reappear with a new 
name. 


We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to get 6MBps of 
iffy service for $90/mo. We give them 30MBps for $55/mo. They're real happy I 
knocked on their door. 



On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



They changed their name? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jan-GAMs"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:00:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact 


You must not be from around here. their reputation got so bad they changed 
their name 

On 7/14/21 12:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 



frontier does not play fast and loose. They follow all of the rules and are 
completely on the up an up. When I think of an upstanding company, I think of 
Frontier 


On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:52 PM Mark Radabaugh < m...@amplex.net > wrote: 


I can’t prove it yet, but I’m pretty sure there a number of mobile and iLEC’s 
running CBRS gear illegally. Frontier has been playing pretty fast and loose 
with the rules around here. 

Mark 

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us > wrote: 
> 
> Does anyone know how to get in touch with a T-Mobile RF engineer? 
> 
> Our CBRS network has been receiving heavy interference from what we believe 
> is a new T-Mobile site at an American tower facility. 
> 
> The equipment isn’t registered with the SAS and appears to be operating in 
> the part 90 portion of the band 3650-3700mhz as a part 90 device and not a 
> part 96 CBRS device. 
> 
> American tower has been no help other than opening a ticket. 
> 
> Federated is our SAS vendor and they haven’t been any help either other than 
> telling us it’s not in the SAS. 
> 
> I’ve also done an application search in the FCC auction 105 (CRBS) site, but 
> T-mobile must have been bidding under a different name. 
> 
> Any help is much appreciated, 
> 
> -Sean Heskett 
> 970-846-8065 
> -- 
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> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

2021-07-16 Thread Colin Stanners
Which model do you gentlemen use, the 800-GIGE-SS-HV ?


On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 3:30 PM Darren Shea  wrote:

> I know there’s supposedly no such thing as a stupid question, so please be
> kind if this actually is one, but…
>
>
>
> Might there be a way to increase the distance between the cable jack and
> the bottom of the box? I don’t really have an issue when I’m cutting and
> crimping a new fitting on a cable, but if I want to use a premade cable
> with strain-relief, that’s when my mumbled curses start flying. Even a
> half-centimeter more of a gap might help…
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> via AF
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2021 2:24 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question
>
>
>
> There is not enough room to make a hole large enough for a grommet that
> will allow a cat5 plug to pass.  We have about .735” to work with.  You
> need a minimum of .750 hole and the grommet itself is 1” dia.
>
>
>
> I could do a split grommet that would just fit the CAT5 but then you will
> have to install the  grommet with cable filling it and that will be a big
> pain forcing it in.  The other seal that is already there slides out so you
> are not having to force a round grommet into the hole.
>
>
>
> It is easy if the grommet doesn’t have anything going through the center
> when you install it.
>
>
>
> I doubt no one wants to feed the wire through then install the plug.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jason McKemie
>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 16, 2021 11:56 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question
>
>
>
> I've drilled holes in the bottom of the DC SS enclosures, directly below
> the connectors.  Works well enough for those, it would be a bit more of a
> pain with the RJ45 connector though since you'd have to install the end
> afterwards.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 11:51 AM Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
>
> We have recently seen similar issues when using Chuck's surge
> suppressors.  Not sure what changed, the RJ 45s, The jack Chuck uses, or my
> techs but we figured out that it was caused by the cable getting pulled
> sideways in the surge enclosure and the tolerance stack on the RJ/RJ jack
> just not working in our favor.  Now we add a zip tie in the little
> enclosure to force a bend/cross in the in/out cable.
>
>
>
> P.S. If you are reading this Chuck we would really really like an
> enclosure with a separate in/out feed similar to the 600SS or something
> like that so the cable can go straight up into the jack and not get pulled
> sideways.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 10:44 PM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
> I've put up alot of the F300, haven't seen any problems.  Bad cable or
> Radio?  Did you try a different POE?  9/10 times Ethernet seems to be a
> problem with the termination and/or cable.  I've done 1000's of ends, but
> just the other day I did one with one blue and green wire switched, I think
> that caused weird Ethernet problems.  Of course it was the end at the radio
> and not the easy-to-get-to inside connection.
>
> On 7/15/2021 9:32 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> Installed a PTP  link with great signal but Ethernet port will not lock at
> 1000FDX...only 100FDx...if i force it it loses connection or 10mbps hex...
>
> Latest firmware...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> I even put a Trendnet Ethernet switch between Poe and Edgeswitch...
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact

2021-07-16 Thread TJ Trout
Jan I will have to say that I don't think any of that is accurate, but the
thing that stands out the most; They are feeding their fibers subs from
dsl? C'mon really? I think you are confused, Zipply is primarily expanding
and providing fiber, but they bought some service areas from Frontier and
they are stuck with some dsl stuff due to caf obligations, show me where
anyone is delivering fiber to a customer that is fed via DSL and I'll eat
my shoe...





On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 1:34 PM Jan-GAMs  wrote:

> Well of course, you don't think they want the law-suits to follow them do
> you?  They blame the corporate, hold a circular firing squad and start-up a
> new company.  The local VP was someone I personally know.  He moved away on
> a new venture of his own, he started up a WISP, now he doesn't report to
> anybody other than his wife and customers.  He's much happier and healthy
> now.
>
>
> On 7/16/21 1:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> Zipply is totally different management than Frontier.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Jan-GAMs"  
> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, July 16, 2021 3:12:24 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact
>
> Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support, wouldn't take
> care of their customers, etc . We had to switch our phone service, it
> too sucked.  They used to be GE, then Verizon, then Frontier and now
> they're zipply.  Same people, same company, same trucks, same buildings.
> Selling DSL as if it's fiber.  They have DSL nodes along the highway and
> they run some kind of converter to fiber and run that fiber to homes in the
> area.  The further they get down the road of course, the shittier the
> signal.  I think that's their MO: rip everyone off till the law-suits
> start, close shop and reappear with a new name.
>
>
> We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to get 6MBps
> of iffy service for $90/mo.  We give them 30MBps for $55/mo.  They're real
> happy I knocked on their door.
>
>
> On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> They changed their name?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Jan-GAMs"  
> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:00:01 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact
>
> You must not be from around here.  their reputation got so bad they
> changed their name
> On 7/14/21 12:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> frontier does not play fast and loose. They follow all of the rules and
> are completely on the up an up. When I think of an upstanding company, I
> think of Frontier
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:52 PM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>
>> I  can’t prove it yet, but I’m pretty sure there a number of mobile and
>> iLEC’s running CBRS gear illegally.   Frontier has been playing pretty fast
>> and loose with the rules around here.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> > On Jul 14, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>> >
>> > Does anyone know how to get in touch with a T-Mobile RF engineer?
>> >
>> > Our CBRS network has been receiving heavy interference from what we
>> believe is a new T-Mobile site at an American tower facility.
>> >
>> > The equipment isn’t registered with the SAS and appears to be operating
>> in the part 90 portion of the band 3650-3700mhz as a part 90 device and not
>> a part 96 CBRS device.
>> >
>> > American tower has been no help other than opening a ticket.
>> >
>> > Federated is our SAS vendor and they haven’t been any help either other
>> than telling us it’s not in the SAS.
>> >
>> > I’ve also done an application search in the FCC auction 105 (CRBS)
>> site, but T-mobile must have been bidding under a different name.
>> >
>> > Any help is much appreciated,
>> >
>> > -Sean Heskett
>> > 970-846-8065
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

2021-07-16 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I moved the jacks up as high as they can go.  

From: Darren Shea 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:29 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

I know there’s supposedly no such thing as a stupid question, so please be kind 
if this actually is one, but… 

 

Might there be a way to increase the distance between the cable jack and the 
bottom of the box? I don’t really have an issue when I’m cutting and crimping a 
new fitting on a cable, but if I want to use a premade cable with 
strain-relief, that’s when my mumbled curses start flying. Even a 
half-centimeter more of a gap might help…

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

 

There is not enough room to make a hole large enough for a grommet that will 
allow a cat5 plug to pass.  We have about .735” to work with.  You need a 
minimum of .750 hole and the grommet itself is 1” dia.  

 

I could do a split grommet that would just fit the CAT5 but then you will have 
to install the  grommet with cable filling it and that will be a big pain 
forcing it in.  The other seal that is already there slides out so you are not 
having to force a round grommet into the hole.  

 

It is easy if the grommet doesn’t have anything going through the center when 
you install it.  

 

I doubt no one wants to feed the wire through then install the plug.  

 

From: Jason McKemie 

Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 11:56 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

 

I've drilled holes in the bottom of the DC SS enclosures, directly below the 
connectors.  Works well enough for those, it would be a bit more of a pain with 
the RJ45 connector though since you'd have to install the end afterwards.

 

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 11:51 AM Carl Peterson  
wrote:

  We have recently seen similar issues when using Chuck's surge suppressors.  
Not sure what changed, the RJ 45s, The jack Chuck uses, or my techs but we 
figured out that it was caused by the cable getting pulled sideways in the 
surge enclosure and the tolerance stack on the RJ/RJ jack just not working in 
our favor.  Now we add a zip tie in the little enclosure to force a bend/cross 
in the in/out cable.   

   

  P.S. If you are reading this Chuck we would really really like an enclosure 
with a separate in/out feed similar to the 600SS or something like that so the 
cable can go straight up into the jack and not get pulled sideways.  

   

  On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 10:44 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

I've put up alot of the F300, haven't seen any problems.  Bad cable or 
Radio?  Did you try a different POE?  9/10 times Ethernet seems to be a problem 
with the termination and/or cable.  I've done 1000's of ends, but just the 
other day I did one with one blue and green wire switched, I think that caused 
weird Ethernet problems.  Of course it was the end at the radio and not the 
easy-to-get-to inside connection.  

On 7/15/2021 9:32 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

  Installed a PTP  link with great signal but Ethernet port will not lock 
at 1000FDX...only 100FDx...if i force it it loses connection or 10mbps hex... 

  Latest firmware...

  Any ideas?

  I even put a Trendnet Ethernet switch between Poe and Edgeswitch...

  Thanks





 

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

2021-07-16 Thread Mark Frost
Is it remotely close to any sort of FM transmitter?

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, 16 July 2021 12:32
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

Installed a PTP  link with great signal but Ethernet port will not lock at 
1000FDX...only 100FDx...if i force it it loses connection or 10mbps hex...
Latest firmware...
Any ideas?
I even put a Trendnet Ethernet switch between Poe and Edgeswitch...
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

2021-07-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
KCOS TV
PBS station ...their STL is at 23GHz...
I am replacing the cable and connectors tomorrow morningthe radios i
replaced were Powerbridges!!

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, 8:37 PM Mark Frost  wrote:

> Is it remotely close to any sort of FM transmitter?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Friday, 16 July 2021 12:32
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question
>
>
>
> Installed a PTP  link with great signal but Ethernet port will not lock at
> 1000FDX...only 100FDx...if i force it it loses connection or 10mbps hex...
>
> Latest firmware...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> I even put a Trendnet Ethernet switch between Poe and Edgeswitch...
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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

2021-07-16 Thread Mark Frost
We had exact same drama, but assumed it was FM. Cambium believed that too. 
Replaced years old UBNT gear with F300. Couldn’t get 1 Gbps to hold. Not a 
single drama for the years before with UBNT junk.


From: AF  On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, 17 July 2021 13:09
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

KCOS TV
PBS station ...their STL is at 23GHz...
I am replacing the cable and connectors tomorrow morningthe radios i 
replaced were Powerbridges!!

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, 8:37 PM Mark Frost 
mailto:mfr...@onq.com.au>> wrote:
Is it remotely close to any sort of FM transmitter?

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Jaime Solorza
Sent: Friday, 16 July 2021 12:32
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 300 Ethernet question

Installed a PTP  link with great signal but Ethernet port will not lock at 
1000FDX...only 100FDx...if i force it it loses connection or 10mbps hex...
Latest firmware...
Any ideas?
I even put a Trendnet Ethernet switch between Poe and Edgeswitch...
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