Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact
Interesting... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 11:00:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact Centurylink Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: https://www.wavedc.com/ Which ILECs are they overbuilding? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via AF" To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: "Chuck McCown" Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 1:28:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact I wonder what is behind zipply? I just got asked to go to a mid sized town and build zipply ftth. I might. Their rates are pretty good for contractors. So who is behind them? They are overbuilding ILECS. From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:52 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact I can go take photos of it, but that would be a real pain in the ass as it's not a short drive. In some cases it's a box up on the power-pole attached to the phone cable and from that point to the house it's fiber. In some cases it comes straight out of the box mounted to the side of the roadway where both fiber and copper come out of it and go up the pole for distribution to the neighborhood. I stopped and talked to one of their guys on their truck, he said they use copper to a converter and fiber from there to the house so it's really DSL even though it's fiber. This conversation was about a year ago, I forget what he called the converter. Our main competitor in this area is zipply and the customers that switch to us all have a common complaint, poor speeds. They were promised 30MBps or higher and usually get less than 5 and their main bitch is they're not able to connect, upload/download and they're paying for services they're not getting. We have two customers that switched because they telework from home. They file documents, come-on, what kind of load is required for filling out orders and forms which are mostly text? Barely 1MBps if that and zipply lost those accounts. We market like a puppy-store. Try it for a test drive for 30 days, free, Try us, compared to what you have already. If you like us then start paying after 30 days. If you don't like us, ask us to come get our equipment, no charges. No contract. On 7/16/21 1:43 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Jan I will have to say that I don't think any of that is accurate, but the thing that stands out the most; They are feeding their fibers subs from dsl? C'mon really? I think you are confused, Zipply is primarily expanding and providing fiber, but they bought some service areas from Frontier and they are stuck with some dsl stuff due to caf obligations, show me where anyone is delivering fiber to a customer that is fed via DSL and I'll eat my shoe... On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 1:34 PM Jan-GAMs < j.vank...@grnacres.net > wrote: Well of course, you don't think they want the law-suits to follow them do you? They blame the corporate, hold a circular firing squad and start-up a new company. The local VP was someone I personally know. He moved away on a new venture of his own, he started up a WISP, now he doesn't report to anybody other than his wife and customers. He's much happier and healthy now. On 7/16/21 1:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Zipply is totally different management than Frontier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support, wouldn't take care of their customers, etc . We had to switch our phone service, it too sucked. They used to be GE, then Verizon, then Frontier and now they're zipply. Same people, same company, same trucks, same buildings. Selling DSL as if it's fiber. They have DSL nodes along the highway and they run some kind of converter to fiber and run that fiber to homes in the area. The further they get down the road of course, the shittier the signal. I think that's their MO: rip everyone off till the law-suits start, close shop and reappear with a new name. We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to get 6MBps of iffy service for $90/mo. We give them 30MBps for $55/mo. They're real happy I knocked on their door. On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: They changed their name? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July
Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact
Where is the money coming from? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > https://ziplyfiber.com/fiber-construction > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > From: "Chuck McCown via AF" > To: af@af.afmug.com > Cc: "Chuck McCown" > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 1:28:22 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact > > I wonder what is behind zipply? I just got asked to go to a mid sized town > and build zipply ftth. I might. Their rates are pretty good for > contractors. So who is behind them? They are overbuilding ILECS. > > From: Jan-GAMs > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:52 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact > > I can go take photos of it, but that would be a real pain in the ass as it's > not a short drive. In some cases it's a box up on the power-pole attached to > the phone cable and from that point to the house it's fiber. In some cases > it comes straight out of the box mounted to the side of the roadway where > both fiber and copper come out of it and go up the pole for distribution to > the neighborhood. I stopped and talked to one of their guys on their truck, > he said they use copper to a converter and fiber from there to the house so > it's really DSL even though it's fiber. This conversation was about a year > ago, I forget what he called the converter. > > Our main competitor in this area is zipply and the customers that switch to > us all have a common complaint, poor speeds. They were promised 30MBps or > higher and usually get less than 5 and their main bitch is they're not able > to connect, upload/download and they're paying for services they're not > getting. We have two customers that switched because they telework from > home. They file documents, come-on, what kind of load is required for > filling out orders and forms which are mostly text? Barely 1MBps if that and > zipply lost those accounts. > > We market like a puppy-store. Try it for a test drive for 30 days, free, Try > us, compared to what you have already. If you like us then start paying > after 30 days. If you don't like us, ask us to come get our equipment, no > charges. No contract. > > On 7/16/21 1:43 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > Jan I will have to say that I don't think any of that is accurate, but the > thing that stands out the most; They are feeding their fibers subs from dsl? > C'mon really? I think you are confused, Zipply is primarily expanding and > providing fiber, but they bought some service areas from Frontier and they > are stuck with some dsl stuff due to caf obligations, show me where anyone is > delivering fiber to a customer that is fed via DSL and I'll eat my shoe... > > > > > >> On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 1:34 PM Jan-GAMs wrote: >> Well of course, you don't think they want the law-suits to follow them do >> you? They blame the corporate, hold a circular firing squad and start-up a >> new company. The local VP was someone I personally know. He moved away on >> a new venture of his own, he started up a WISP, now he doesn't report to >> anybody other than his wife and customers. He's much happier and healthy >> now. >> >> >> >> On 7/16/21 1:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> Zipply is totally different management than Frontier. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> >> >> >> From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net >> To: af@af.afmug.com >> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:12:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact >> >> Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support, wouldn't take >> care of their customers, etc . We had to switch our phone service, it >> too sucked. They used to be GE, then Verizon, then Frontier and now they're >> zipply. Same people, same company, same trucks, same buildings. Selling >> DSL as if it's fiber. They have DSL nodes along the highway and they run >> some kind of converter to fiber and run that fiber to homes in the area. >> The further they get down the road of course, the shittier the signal. I >> think that's their MO: rip everyone off till the law-suits start, close shop >> and reappear with a new name. >> >> >> >> We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to get 6MBps of >> iffy service for $90/mo. We give them 30MBps for $55/mo. They're real >> happy I knocked on their door. >> >> >> >> On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> They changed their name? >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> >> >> >> From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net >> To: af@af.afmug.com >> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:00:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact >> >> Yo
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Centurylink Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > https://www.wavedc.com/ > > Which ILECs are they overbuilding? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > From: "Chuck McCown via AF" > To: af@af.afmug.com > Cc: "Chuck McCown" > Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 1:28:22 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact > > I wonder what is behind zipply? I just got asked to go to a mid sized town > and build zipply ftth. I might. Their rates are pretty good for > contractors. So who is behind them? They are overbuilding ILECS. > > From: Jan-GAMs > Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:52 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact > > I can go take photos of it, but that would be a real pain in the ass as it's > not a short drive. In some cases it's a box up on the power-pole attached to > the phone cable and from that point to the house it's fiber. In some cases > it comes straight out of the box mounted to the side of the roadway where > both fiber and copper come out of it and go up the pole for distribution to > the neighborhood. I stopped and talked to one of their guys on their truck, > he said they use copper to a converter and fiber from there to the house so > it's really DSL even though it's fiber. This conversation was about a year > ago, I forget what he called the converter. > > Our main competitor in this area is zipply and the customers that switch to > us all have a common complaint, poor speeds. They were promised 30MBps or > higher and usually get less than 5 and their main bitch is they're not able > to connect, upload/download and they're paying for services they're not > getting. We have two customers that switched because they telework from > home. They file documents, come-on, what kind of load is required for > filling out orders and forms which are mostly text? Barely 1MBps if that and > zipply lost those accounts. > > We market like a puppy-store. Try it for a test drive for 30 days, free, Try > us, compared to what you have already. If you like us then start paying > after 30 days. If you don't like us, ask us to come get our equipment, no > charges. No contract. > > On 7/16/21 1:43 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > Jan I will have to say that I don't think any of that is accurate, but the > thing that stands out the most; They are feeding their fibers subs from dsl? > C'mon really? I think you are confused, Zipply is primarily expanding and > providing fiber, but they bought some service areas from Frontier and they > are stuck with some dsl stuff due to caf obligations, show me where anyone is > delivering fiber to a customer that is fed via DSL and I'll eat my shoe... > > > > > >> On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 1:34 PM Jan-GAMs wrote: >> Well of course, you don't think they want the law-suits to follow them do >> you? They blame the corporate, hold a circular firing squad and start-up a >> new company. The local VP was someone I personally know. He moved away on >> a new venture of his own, he started up a WISP, now he doesn't report to >> anybody other than his wife and customers. He's much happier and healthy >> now. >> >> >> >> On 7/16/21 1:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> Zipply is totally different management than Frontier. >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> >> >> >> From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net >> To: af@af.afmug.com >> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:12:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact >> >> Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support, wouldn't take >> care of their customers, etc . We had to switch our phone service, it >> too sucked. They used to be GE, then Verizon, then Frontier and now they're >> zipply. Same people, same company, same trucks, same buildings. Selling >> DSL as if it's fiber. They have DSL nodes along the highway and they run >> some kind of converter to fiber and run that fiber to homes in the area. >> The further they get down the road of course, the shittier the signal. I >> think that's their MO: rip everyone off till the law-suits start, close shop >> and reappear with a new name. >> >> >> >> We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to get 6MBps of >> iffy service for $90/mo. We give them 30MBps for $55/mo. They're real >> happy I knocked on their door. >> >> >> >> On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> They changed their name? >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> >> >> >> From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net >> To: af@af.afmug.com >> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:00:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact >> >>
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https://www.wavedc.com/ Which ILECs are they overbuilding? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via AF" To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: "Chuck McCown" Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 1:28:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact I wonder what is behind zipply? I just got asked to go to a mid sized town and build zipply ftth. I might. Their rates are pretty good for contractors. So who is behind them? They are overbuilding ILECS. From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:52 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact I can go take photos of it, but that would be a real pain in the ass as it's not a short drive. In some cases it's a box up on the power-pole attached to the phone cable and from that point to the house it's fiber. In some cases it comes straight out of the box mounted to the side of the roadway where both fiber and copper come out of it and go up the pole for distribution to the neighborhood. I stopped and talked to one of their guys on their truck, he said they use copper to a converter and fiber from there to the house so it's really DSL even though it's fiber. This conversation was about a year ago, I forget what he called the converter. Our main competitor in this area is zipply and the customers that switch to us all have a common complaint, poor speeds. They were promised 30MBps or higher and usually get less than 5 and their main bitch is they're not able to connect, upload/download and they're paying for services they're not getting. We have two customers that switched because they telework from home. They file documents, come-on, what kind of load is required for filling out orders and forms which are mostly text? Barely 1MBps if that and zipply lost those accounts. We market like a puppy-store. Try it for a test drive for 30 days, free, Try us, compared to what you have already. If you like us then start paying after 30 days. If you don't like us, ask us to come get our equipment, no charges. No contract. On 7/16/21 1:43 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Jan I will have to say that I don't think any of that is accurate, but the thing that stands out the most; They are feeding their fibers subs from dsl? C'mon really? I think you are confused, Zipply is primarily expanding and providing fiber, but they bought some service areas from Frontier and they are stuck with some dsl stuff due to caf obligations, show me where anyone is delivering fiber to a customer that is fed via DSL and I'll eat my shoe... On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 1:34 PM Jan-GAMs < j.vank...@grnacres.net > wrote: Well of course, you don't think they want the law-suits to follow them do you? They blame the corporate, hold a circular firing squad and start-up a new company. The local VP was someone I personally know. He moved away on a new venture of his own, he started up a WISP, now he doesn't report to anybody other than his wife and customers. He's much happier and healthy now. On 7/16/21 1:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Zipply is totally different management than Frontier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support, wouldn't take care of their customers, etc . We had to switch our phone service, it too sucked. They used to be GE, then Verizon, then Frontier and now they're zipply. Same people, same company, same trucks, same buildings. Selling DSL as if it's fiber. They have DSL nodes along the highway and they run some kind of converter to fiber and run that fiber to homes in the area. The further they get down the road of course, the shittier the signal. I think that's their MO: rip everyone off till the law-suits start, close shop and reappear with a new name. We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to get 6MBps of iffy service for $90/mo. We give them 30MBps for $55/mo. They're real happy I knocked on their door. On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: They changed their name? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:00:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact You must not be from around here. their reputation got so bad they changed their name On 7/14/21 12:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote: frontier does not play fast and loose. They follow all of the rules and are completely on the up an up. When I think of an upstanding company, I think of Frontier On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:52 PM Mark Radabaugh < m...@am
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I've run into this on 2 different machines, setting up a new Link on the bench. Programming 2 Force 425 radios one after the other. Accessing the radios on 169.254.1.1. The first radio upgrades just fine, the 2nd radio sits at 'Initializing Upgrade' I've tried clearing the cache, different browser, rebooting radio, defaulting radio, rebooting PC. It's like something locks the communication of the radio to the PC for the firmware upgrade. Plug the radio into another PC and it upgrades just fine. I can configure the radio just fine, just cannot upgrade the firmware. Has anyone run into this and found a fix? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact
https://ziplyfiber.com/fiber-construction - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via AF" To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: "Chuck McCown" Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 1:28:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact I wonder what is behind zipply? I just got asked to go to a mid sized town and build zipply ftth. I might. Their rates are pretty good for contractors. So who is behind them? They are overbuilding ILECS. From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:52 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact I can go take photos of it, but that would be a real pain in the ass as it's not a short drive. In some cases it's a box up on the power-pole attached to the phone cable and from that point to the house it's fiber. In some cases it comes straight out of the box mounted to the side of the roadway where both fiber and copper come out of it and go up the pole for distribution to the neighborhood. I stopped and talked to one of their guys on their truck, he said they use copper to a converter and fiber from there to the house so it's really DSL even though it's fiber. This conversation was about a year ago, I forget what he called the converter. Our main competitor in this area is zipply and the customers that switch to us all have a common complaint, poor speeds. They were promised 30MBps or higher and usually get less than 5 and their main bitch is they're not able to connect, upload/download and they're paying for services they're not getting. We have two customers that switched because they telework from home. They file documents, come-on, what kind of load is required for filling out orders and forms which are mostly text? Barely 1MBps if that and zipply lost those accounts. We market like a puppy-store. Try it for a test drive for 30 days, free, Try us, compared to what you have already. If you like us then start paying after 30 days. If you don't like us, ask us to come get our equipment, no charges. No contract. On 7/16/21 1:43 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Jan I will have to say that I don't think any of that is accurate, but the thing that stands out the most; They are feeding their fibers subs from dsl? C'mon really? I think you are confused, Zipply is primarily expanding and providing fiber, but they bought some service areas from Frontier and they are stuck with some dsl stuff due to caf obligations, show me where anyone is delivering fiber to a customer that is fed via DSL and I'll eat my shoe... On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 1:34 PM Jan-GAMs < j.vank...@grnacres.net > wrote: Well of course, you don't think they want the law-suits to follow them do you? They blame the corporate, hold a circular firing squad and start-up a new company. The local VP was someone I personally know. He moved away on a new venture of his own, he started up a WISP, now he doesn't report to anybody other than his wife and customers. He's much happier and healthy now. On 7/16/21 1:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Zipply is totally different management than Frontier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support, wouldn't take care of their customers, etc . We had to switch our phone service, it too sucked. They used to be GE, then Verizon, then Frontier and now they're zipply. Same people, same company, same trucks, same buildings. Selling DSL as if it's fiber. They have DSL nodes along the highway and they run some kind of converter to fiber and run that fiber to homes in the area. The further they get down the road of course, the shittier the signal. I think that's their MO: rip everyone off till the law-suits start, close shop and reappear with a new name. We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to get 6MBps of iffy service for $90/mo. We give them 30MBps for $55/mo. They're real happy I knocked on their door. On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: They changed their name? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:00:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact You must not be from around here. their reputation got so bad they changed their name On 7/14/21 12:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote: frontier does not play fast and loose. They follow all of the rules and are completely on the up an up. When I think of an upstanding company, I think of Frontier On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:52 PM Mark Radabaugh < m...@amplex.net > wrote:
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I wonder what is behind zipply? I just got asked to go to a mid sized town and build zipply ftth. I might. Their rates are pretty good for contractors. So who is behind them? They are overbuilding ILECS. From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:52 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact I can go take photos of it, but that would be a real pain in the ass as it's not a short drive. In some cases it's a box up on the power-pole attached to the phone cable and from that point to the house it's fiber. In some cases it comes straight out of the box mounted to the side of the roadway where both fiber and copper come out of it and go up the pole for distribution to the neighborhood. I stopped and talked to one of their guys on their truck, he said they use copper to a converter and fiber from there to the house so it's really DSL even though it's fiber. This conversation was about a year ago, I forget what he called the converter. Our main competitor in this area is zipply and the customers that switch to us all have a common complaint, poor speeds. They were promised 30MBps or higher and usually get less than 5 and their main bitch is they're not able to connect, upload/download and they're paying for services they're not getting. We have two customers that switched because they telework from home. They file documents, come-on, what kind of load is required for filling out orders and forms which are mostly text? Barely 1MBps if that and zipply lost those accounts. We market like a puppy-store. Try it for a test drive for 30 days, free, Try us, compared to what you have already. If you like us then start paying after 30 days. If you don't like us, ask us to come get our equipment, no charges. No contract. On 7/16/21 1:43 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Jan I will have to say that I don't think any of that is accurate, but the thing that stands out the most; They are feeding their fibers subs from dsl? C'mon really? I think you are confused, Zipply is primarily expanding and providing fiber, but they bought some service areas from Frontier and they are stuck with some dsl stuff due to caf obligations, show me where anyone is delivering fiber to a customer that is fed via DSL and I'll eat my shoe... On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 1:34 PM Jan-GAMs wrote: Well of course, you don't think they want the law-suits to follow them do you? They blame the corporate, hold a circular firing squad and start-up a new company. The local VP was someone I personally know. He moved away on a new venture of his own, he started up a WISP, now he doesn't report to anybody other than his wife and customers. He's much happier and healthy now. On 7/16/21 1:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Zipply is totally different management than Frontier. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 3:12:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact Yeah, Frontier wouldn't answer the phones for tech support, wouldn't take care of their customers, etc . We had to switch our phone service, it too sucked. They used to be GE, then Verizon, then Frontier and now they're zipply. Same people, same company, same trucks, same buildings. Selling DSL as if it's fiber. They have DSL nodes along the highway and they run some kind of converter to fiber and run that fiber to homes in the area. The further they get down the road of course, the shittier the signal. I think that's their MO: rip everyone off till the law-suits start, close shop and reappear with a new name. We have one customer who paid for two lines from Zipply just to get 6MBps of iffy service for $90/mo. We give them 30MBps for $55/mo. They're real happy I knocked on their door. On 7/16/21 12:53 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: They changed their name? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jan-GAMs" mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 6:00:01 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] T-Mobile RF contact You must not be from around here. their reputation got so bad they changed their name On 7/14/21 12:23 PM, Steve Jones wrote: frontier does not play fast and loose. They follow all of the rules and are completely on the up an up. When I think of an upstanding company, I think of Frontier On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 1:52 PM Mark Radabaugh wrote: I can’t prove it yet, but
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MY fave is Tech: Check your internet to see if your up Cust: Walks in and grabs roku remote and turns on "Yep its working" When did internet become the goto for everything? On 7/17/2021 2:58 PM, Nate Burke wrote: New one today. On the phone with a customer. Tech: 'Is the internet working for you right now?' Customer: 'Hang on, let me check ALEXA, WHAT IS THE TEMPERATURE' Alexa: 'The temperature is 78 degrees' Customer: 'Internet is all working great! Thank you!' -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
