[AFMUG] ***SPAM*** SEKISUI CHEMICAL Develops Transparent and Flexible Radio Wave Reflection Film for 5G Communications

2022-01-06 Thread Jaime Solorza 
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Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

2022-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman 
Travis's suggestion of a hefty garbage bag comes to mind.  That was the
best they found.  But since it's high frequency it's probably not hiding
from plain sight on a tower.

Have you tried an annual spray of NeverWet?  Works great on my shoes.

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On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Are there any other WISPs who have installed cambium cnWave v3000s in a
> snowy environment? We are having trouble with snow building up on the
> dishes.
>
> It would be nice if Cambium allowed you to install it upside down but then
> the cable glands are facing up.
>
> It would also be nice if there was some sort of radome.
>
> Or if there was a heating pad you could power with the AUX port power.
>
> thoughts??  ideas??
>
> Does anyone have a good solution they are using?
>
> *Sean Heskett*
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: hiring a person with a bad felony charge

2022-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman 
What Bill said is a simple fact.

Having said that, it's a stereotype for a reason.  The large majority of
people in that stereotype are upholding it.  Maybe that guy is the
exception to the rule, maybe not.

Personally I've been burned every time so I'm kind of done.  Maybe you're a
whole lot nicer than me (and of course you have a personal interest +
benefit).

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:57 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> I'm resigned to the concept that we don't have a justice system, we have a
> legal system that can be manipulated by people with more money.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 1/5/2022 1:42 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
>
> My nephew at age 17, had sex with his girl friend, got her pregnant and
> got arrested for having sex with a minor.  Recently out of jail and on
> parole, his daughter gave him her cell phone so his parole officer could
> keep tabs on him.  He got tossed back in jail for having her phone because
> she had a dating service on her phone.  Is life fucked up or what?  Our law
> system can fuck a boy for life, even after he has paid his time in jail.  A
> hundred years ago, almost everybody's grandma probably got pregnant and
> married by age 14-15, this has been so for thousands of years.  Suddenly
> we're supposed to act differently about this?
>
> 30 years ago, I caught my 17 year-old daughter in bed with a 22 year-old
> security guard from Great America theme park.  I called the cops because I
> was really upset they would do this in my own house and I didn't like the
> guy, thought he was a creep.  The cops did nothing about it, called it
> consensual.  Turned out the guy was a creep even though he became the
> father of my grand-daughter and failed for years to pay child-support.  I'm
> a hypocrite on this issue
>
> Crime is only a crime if the police decide it's a crime. and if you get
> caught by them.
>
> Anyone who has been to jail for a crime and did their time has paid their
> debt.  If they want to continue to be a criminal is a separate problem.
>
>
> On 1/5/22 12:13, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> I hired everyone with a pulse at the height of our construction
> activities.  Lots of them had records.  Mostly drugs.  One I think had done
> hard time for murder 20 years ago.  That guy had a bad impulse control and
> was bouncing around companies.  He actually quit me to go to another
> company but he did not have a firm offer and they did not hire him.  He
> blamed me for this whole thing.  The druggies typically fail.  I have only
> had one druggie success story in 40 years of doing this.  At least it is a
> success so far.  They all can do OK for a while, but they almost always
> relapse.  Never had a sex offender that I knew of.
>
> Well when I was 16 and my girlfriend was 15... it was the 70s...
> nobody cared about that kind of thing back then.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 5, 2022 12:42 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: hiring a person with a bad felony charge
>
> So heres a moral pickle.
>
> An applicant with a pending criminal charge in general, would you hire?
> An applicant with a pending felony charge?
> an applicant with a possession of child porn charge?
>
> This is one of those times where if you have ever deferred to the
> constitution, youre skirting the edge of extreme hypocrisy. But reality
> dictates maintaining a constitutionalist posture may not always be possible.
>
> We have one applicant on parole, we are somewhat giving him consideration,
> though it was an aggravated battery, so physical in nature, but his "story"
> does soften the charge. He was able to transfer a parole out of the
> conviction state, thats not something they tend to do for non compliant
> parolees. Could go either way.
>
> Now the pending charges guy happens to be my neighbor, my rental tenant, a
> shirt tail cousin, and my daughter babysat for him (that risk has already
> been assessed). Historically I tried to recruit him as staff, but my nephew
> got him a job in sales, and he made pretty good dough, better than we pay.
> As a result of no call no shows post arrest, hes no longer a team member at
> my nephews workplace (that kept them clean on the legailty of firing over
> an unconvicted charge)
>
> My nephew, who was his supervisor and close friend discussed the charges.
> What was relayed to me is it was something from when he was young and dumb
> catching up to him. My nephew, whose opinion i trust has the full details
> and said it really isnt a "serious" issue. My guess is something dumb like
> a nude pic on his phone from when he was a teen of his current GF at the
> time (illinois codified that as a possesion of child pornagraphy a few
> years back)
>
> His bond was only 10,000 10% so 1000 to walk, this county never sets bonds
> that low on child porn charges, so it indicates a less severe issue. Our
> county, however doesnt

Re: [AFMUG] Fusing batteries

2022-01-06 Thread dmmoffett 
Yeah DIN breakers for those big ones.  Or breakers that snap into the rectifier 
chassis.

 

By the way, I thought the overcurrent device should be sized based on the amp 
capacity of the wire.  I sometimes see people saying things like “I have an X 
watt device, so I need a Y watt fuse”.  What’s the purpose to downsizing the 
fuse to match the device? 

 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 10:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fusing batteries

 

I use circuit breakers.

Sent from my iPhone





On Jan 5, 2022, at 4:54 PM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> 
> wrote:



How is everyone fusing your high current dc stuff? we use blade fuses and gmt 
fuses up to 15a, with inverters directly to the battery strings, granted they 
have internal breakers I really want to fuse them if that's a good idea but 
finding 100a fuses with a din rail etc is hard

 

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 3:53 PM Colin Stanners mailto:cstann...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sorry, 50A being the circuit breaker.

 

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, 5:51 PM Colin Stanners mailto:cstann...@gmail.com> > wrote:

750 /24 = 31 amps. Sounds like it may be better to standardize on 48V. If 
staying at 24V I'd recommend a 80-100A fuse in each series of batteries and 
maybe a 50A or in some cases lower fuse for the site.

 

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, 5:40 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

So we have some 12v 190 ah batteries and are going to be running them in series 
for 24 v and pairs in parralell if we need more capacity.

 

Where all is fusing recomended and of what type and size? 

These will be attached to 750w 1000w or 1500w ups depending on the site. Most 
sites pull between 450 and 750 watts right now off the current batteries

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Re: [AFMUG] Fusing batteries

2022-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman 
Circuit breakers are simply better.  The issue is they don't work very well
in the low amperage world.

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On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:56 PM TJ Trout  wrote:

> How is everyone fusing your high current dc stuff? we use blade fuses and
> gmt fuses up to 15a, with inverters directly to the battery strings,
> granted they have internal breakers I really want to fuse them if that's a
> good idea but finding 100a fuses with a din rail etc is hard
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 3:53 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:
>
>> Sorry, 50A being the circuit breaker.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, 5:51 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:
>>
>>> 750 /24 = 31 amps. Sounds like it may be better to standardize on 48V.
>>> If staying at 24V I'd recommend a 80-100A fuse in each series of batteries
>>> and maybe a 50A or in some cases lower fuse for the site.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, 5:40 PM Steve Jones 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 So we have some 12v 190 ah batteries and are going to be running them
 in series for 24 v and pairs in parralell if we need more capacity.

 Where all is fusing recomended and of what type and size?
 These will be attached to 750w 1000w or 1500w ups depending on the
 site. Most sites pull between 450 and 750 watts right now off the current
 batteries
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Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

2022-01-06 Thread Sean Heskett 
We are going to try some different sprays as well as wrapping the antenna
in cellophane (like what boat owners use to winterize their boats) to
create a makeshift radome

Sean


On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:26 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Travis's suggestion of a hefty garbage bag comes to mind.  That was the
> best they found.  But since it's high frequency it's probably not hiding
> from plain sight on a tower.
>
> Have you tried an annual spray of NeverWet?  Works great on my shoes.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> 
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Are there any other WISPs who have installed cambium cnWave v3000s in a
>> snowy environment? We are having trouble with snow building up on the
>> dishes.
>>
>> It would be nice if Cambium allowed you to install it upside down but
>> then the cable glands are facing up.
>>
>> It would also be nice if there was some sort of radome.
>>
>> Or if there was a heating pad you could power with the AUX port power.
>>
>> thoughts??  ideas??
>>
>> Does anyone have a good solution they are using?
>>
>> *Sean Heskett*
>>
>> *ZIRKEL *
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>> 970-871-8500 x100 - Office
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: hiring a person with a bad felony charge

2022-01-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF 
Poor, not white, 2 strikes before you even get started.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 7:27 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: hiring a person with a bad felony charge

What Bill said is a simple fact. 

Having said that, it's a stereotype for a reason.  The large majority of people 
in that stereotype are upholding it.  Maybe that guy is the exception to the 
rule, maybe not.

Personally I've been burned every time so I'm kind of done.  Maybe you're a 
whole lot nicer than me (and of course you have a personal interest + benefit).


Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:57 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

  I'm resigned to the concept that we don't have a justice system, we have a 
legal system that can be manipulated by people with more money.



bp
On 1/5/2022 1:42 PM, Jan-GAMs wrote:

My nephew at age 17, had sex with his girl friend, got her pregnant and got 
arrested for having sex with a minor.  Recently out of jail and on parole, his 
daughter gave him her cell phone so his parole officer could keep tabs on him.  
He got tossed back in jail for having her phone because she had a dating 
service on her phone.  Is life fucked up or what?  Our law system can fuck a 
boy for life, even after he has paid his time in jail.  A hundred years ago, 
almost everybody's grandma probably got pregnant and married by age 14-15, this 
has been so for thousands of years.  Suddenly we're supposed to act differently 
about this?

30 years ago, I caught my 17 year-old daughter in bed with a 22 year-old 
security guard from Great America theme park.  I called the cops because I was 
really upset they would do this in my own house and I didn't like the guy, 
thought he was a creep.  The cops did nothing about it, called it consensual.  
Turned out the guy was a creep even though he became the father of my 
grand-daughter and failed for years to pay child-support.  I'm a hypocrite on 
this issue

Crime is only a crime if the police decide it's a crime. and if you get 
caught by them.  


Anyone who has been to jail for a crime and did their time has paid their 
debt.  If they want to continue to be a criminal is a separate problem.



On 1/5/22 12:13, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

  I hired everyone with a pulse at the height of our construction 
activities.  Lots of them had records.  Mostly drugs.  One I think had done 
hard time for murder 20 years ago.  That guy had a bad impulse control and was 
bouncing around companies.  He actually quit me to go to another company but he 
did not have a firm offer and they did not hire him.  He blamed me for this 
whole thing.  The druggies typically fail.  I have only had one druggie success 
story in 40 years of doing this.  At least it is a success so far.  They all 
can do OK for a while, but they almost always relapse.  Never had a sex 
offender that I knew of.  

  Well when I was 16 and my girlfriend was 15... it was the 70s... 
nobody cared about that kind of thing back then.  

  From: Steve Jones 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 12:42 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT: hiring a person with a bad felony charge

  So heres a moral pickle. 

  An applicant with a pending criminal charge in general, would you hire?
  An applicant with a pending felony charge?
  an applicant with a possession of child porn charge?

  This is one of those times where if you have ever deferred to the 
constitution, youre skirting the edge of extreme hypocrisy. But reality 
dictates maintaining a constitutionalist posture may not always be possible.

  We have one applicant on parole, we are somewhat giving him 
consideration, though it was an aggravated battery, so physical in nature, but 
his "story" does soften the charge. He was able to transfer a parole out of the 
conviction state, thats not something they tend to do for non compliant 
parolees. Could go either way.

  Now the pending charges guy happens to be my neighbor, my rental tenant, 
a shirt tail cousin, and my daughter babysat for him (that risk has already 
been assessed). Historically I tried to recruit him as staff, but my nephew got 
him a job in sales, and he made pretty good dough, better than we pay. As a 
result of no call no shows post arrest, hes no longer a team member at my 
nephews workplace (that kept them clean on the legailty of firing over an 
unconvicted charge)

  My nephew, who was his supervisor and close friend discussed the charges. 
What was relayed to me is it was something from when he was young and dumb 
catching up to him. My nephew, whose opinion i trust has the full details and 
said it really isnt a "serious" issue. My guess is something dumb like a nude 
pic on his phone from when he was a teen of his current GF at the time 
(illinois codified that as a

Re: [AFMUG] Fusing batteries

2022-01-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF 
I don’t want a shorted cell to take me down if I have more than one string of 
batts.  So I downsize the circuit breaker to the lowest I can get away with.  
Big wires to prevent voltage drop.  But the CB size in my central offices are 
more load than wire based.  

Just the opposite in a house where you don’t know the load that will be 
presented to a receptacle but want to maximize the current available to it.  

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 8:07 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Cc: 'Chuck McCown' 
Subject: RE: [AFMUG] Fusing batteries

Yeah DIN breakers for those big ones.  Or breakers that snap into the rectifier 
chassis.

 

By the way, I thought the overcurrent device should be sized based on the amp 
capacity of the wire.  I sometimes see people saying things like “I have an X 
watt device, so I need a Y watt fuse”.  What’s the purpose to downsizing the 
fuse to match the device? 

 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2022 10:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fusing batteries

 

I use circuit breakers.

Sent from my iPhone





  On Jan 5, 2022, at 4:54 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:

  

  How is everyone fusing your high current dc stuff? we use blade fuses and gmt 
fuses up to 15a, with inverters directly to the battery strings, granted they 
have internal breakers I really want to fuse them if that's a good idea but 
finding 100a fuses with a din rail etc is hard

   

  On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 3:53 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

Sorry, 50A being the circuit breaker.

 

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, 5:51 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

  750 /24 = 31 amps. Sounds like it may be better to standardize on 48V. If 
staying at 24V I'd recommend a 80-100A fuse in each series of batteries and 
maybe a 50A or in some cases lower fuse for the site.

   

  On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, 5:40 PM Steve Jones  
wrote:

So we have some 12v 190 ah batteries and are going to be running them 
in series for 24 v and pairs in parralell if we need more capacity.

 

Where all is fusing recomended and of what type and size? 

These will be attached to 750w 1000w or 1500w ups depending on the 
site. Most sites pull between 450 and 750 watts right now off the current 
batteries

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Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

2022-01-06 Thread Colin Stanners 
Wrapping antennas in cellophane is like going back to early 2000s "indoor
Linksys routers in tupperware" hackery.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 12:08 PM Sean Heskett,  wrote:

> We are going to try some different sprays as well as wrapping the antenna
> in cellophane (like what boat owners use to winterize their boats) to
> create a makeshift radome
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:26 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> Travis's suggestion of a hefty garbage bag comes to mind.  That was the
>> best they found.  But since it's high frequency it's probably not hiding
>> from plain sight on a tower.
>>
>> Have you tried an annual spray of NeverWet?  Works great on my shoes.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> 
>> Suite 1337
>> 
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Are there any other WISPs who have installed cambium cnWave v3000s in a
>>> snowy environment? We are having trouble with snow building up on the
>>> dishes.
>>>
>>> It would be nice if Cambium allowed you to install it upside down but
>>> then the cable glands are facing up.
>>>
>>> It would also be nice if there was some sort of radome.
>>>
>>> Or if there was a heating pad you could power with the AUX port power.
>>>
>>> thoughts??  ideas??
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a good solution they are using?
>>>
>>> *Sean Heskett*
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

2022-01-06 Thread Sean Heskett 
Until cambium or another vendor provides a better professional solution
then we gotta do what we gotta do lol.

Sean

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 11:34 AM Colin Stanners  wrote:

> Wrapping antennas in cellophane is like going back to early 2000s "indoor
> Linksys routers in tupperware" hackery.
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 12:08 PM Sean Heskett,  wrote:
>
>> We are going to try some different sprays as well as wrapping the antenna
>> in cellophane (like what boat owners use to winterize their boats) to
>> create a makeshift radome
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:26 AM Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Travis's suggestion of a hefty garbage bag comes to mind.  That was the
>>> best they found.  But since it's high frequency it's probably not hiding
>>> from plain sight on a tower.
>>>
>>> Have you tried an annual spray of NeverWet?  Works great on my shoes.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> 
>>> Suite 1337
>>> 
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 Are there any other WISPs who have installed cambium cnWave v3000s in a
 snowy environment? We are having trouble with snow building up on the
 dishes.

 It would be nice if Cambium allowed you to install it upside down but
 then the cable glands are facing up.

 It would also be nice if there was some sort of radome.

 Or if there was a heating pad you could power with the AUX port power.

 thoughts??  ideas??

 Does anyone have a good solution they are using?

 *Sean Heskett*

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Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

2022-01-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF 
Trash bags are proven, effective and cheap.  You just have to replace them when 
they get shredded.  

From: Sean Heskett 
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 11:38 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

Until cambium or another vendor provides a better professional solution then we 
gotta do what we gotta do lol.  

Sean 

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 11:34 AM Colin Stanners  wrote:

  Wrapping antennas in cellophane is like going back to early 2000s "indoor 
Linksys routers in tupperware" hackery.

  On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 12:08 PM Sean Heskett,  wrote:

We are going to try some different sprays as well as wrapping the antenna 
in cellophane (like what boat owners use to winterize their boats) to create a 
makeshift radome

Sean


On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:26 AM Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  Travis's suggestion of a hefty garbage bag comes to mind.  That was the 
best they found.  But since it's high frequency it's probably not hiding from 
plain sight on a tower. 

  Have you tried an annual spray of NeverWet?  Works great on my shoes.


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  On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

Hello, 

Are there any other WISPs who have installed cambium cnWave v3000s in a 
snowy environment? We are having trouble with snow building up on the dishes.

It would be nice if Cambium allowed you to install it upside down but 
then the cable glands are facing up.

It would also be nice if there was some sort of radome.

Or if there was a heating pad you could power with the AUX port power.

thoughts??  ideas??  

Does anyone have a good solution they are using?

Sean Heskett


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Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

2022-01-06 Thread TJ Trout 
coming soon, McCown technology UV stabilized trash bags!

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Trash bags are proven, effective and cheap.  You just have to replace them
> when they get shredded.
>
> *From:* Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 6, 2022 11:38 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments
>
> Until cambium or another vendor provides a better professional solution
> then we gotta do what we gotta do lol.
>
> Sean
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 11:34 AM Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> Wrapping antennas in cellophane is like going back to early 2000s "indoor
>> Linksys routers in tupperware" hackery.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 12:08 PM Sean Heskett,  wrote:
>>
>>> We are going to try some different sprays as well as wrapping the
>>> antenna in cellophane (like what boat owners use to winterize their boats)
>>> to create a makeshift radome
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:26 AM Josh Luthman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Travis's suggestion of a hefty garbage bag comes to mind.  That was the
 best they found.  But since it's high frequency it's probably not hiding
 from plain sight on a tower.

 Have you tried an annual spray of NeverWet?  Works great on my shoes.

 Josh Luthman
 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 
 Suite 1337
 
 Troy, OH 45373
 


 On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Are there any other WISPs who have installed cambium cnWave v3000s in
> a snowy environment? We are having trouble with snow building up on the
> dishes.
>
> It would be nice if Cambium allowed you to install it upside down but
> then the cable glands are facing up.
>
> It would also be nice if there was some sort of radome.
>
> Or if there was a heating pad you could power with the AUX port power.
>
> thoughts??  ideas??
>
> Does anyone have a good solution they are using?
>
> *Sean Heskett*
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Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

2022-01-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF 
5G compatible too.

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 12:15 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

coming soon, McCown technology UV stabilized trash bags!

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  Trash bags are proven, effective and cheap.  You just have to replace them 
when they get shredded.  

  From: Sean Heskett 
  Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 11:38 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

  Until cambium or another vendor provides a better professional solution then 
we gotta do what we gotta do lol.  

  Sean 

  On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 11:34 AM Colin Stanners  wrote:

Wrapping antennas in cellophane is like going back to early 2000s "indoor 
Linksys routers in tupperware" hackery.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 12:08 PM Sean Heskett,  wrote:

  We are going to try some different sprays as well as wrapping the antenna 
in cellophane (like what boat owners use to winterize their boats) to create a 
makeshift radome

  Sean


  On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:26 AM Josh Luthman  
wrote:

Travis's suggestion of a hefty garbage bag comes to mind.  That was the 
best they found.  But since it's high frequency it's probably not hiding from 
plain sight on a tower. 

Have you tried an annual spray of NeverWet?  Works great on my shoes.


Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

  Hello, 

  Are there any other WISPs who have installed cambium cnWave v3000s in 
a snowy environment? We are having trouble with snow building up on the dishes.

  It would be nice if Cambium allowed you to install it upside down but 
then the cable glands are facing up.

  It would also be nice if there was some sort of radome.

  Or if there was a heating pad you could power with the AUX port power.

  thoughts??  ideas??  

  Does anyone have a good solution they are using?

  Sean Heskett


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Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

2022-01-06 Thread Josh Luthman 
Try this two part for the plastics:
https://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-275185-Industrial-Repelling-Treatment/dp/B00FTOEQUC/ref=asc_df_B00FTOEQUC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=193126619726&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15595905485160347162&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015806&hvtargid=pla-307411541446&psc=1

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 1:39 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Until cambium or another vendor provides a better professional solution
> then we gotta do what we gotta do lol.
>
> Sean
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 11:34 AM Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> Wrapping antennas in cellophane is like going back to early 2000s "indoor
>> Linksys routers in tupperware" hackery.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 12:08 PM Sean Heskett,  wrote:
>>
>>> We are going to try some different sprays as well as wrapping the
>>> antenna in cellophane (like what boat owners use to winterize their boats)
>>> to create a makeshift radome
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:26 AM Josh Luthman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Travis's suggestion of a hefty garbage bag comes to mind.  That was the
 best they found.  But since it's high frequency it's probably not hiding
 from plain sight on a tower.

 Have you tried an annual spray of NeverWet?  Works great on my shoes.

 Josh Luthman
 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 
 Suite 1337
 
 Troy, OH 45373
 


 On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Are there any other WISPs who have installed cambium cnWave v3000s in
> a snowy environment? We are having trouble with snow building up on the
> dishes.
>
> It would be nice if Cambium allowed you to install it upside down but
> then the cable glands are facing up.
>
> It would also be nice if there was some sort of radome.
>
> Or if there was a heating pad you could power with the AUX port power.
>
> thoughts??  ideas??
>
> Does anyone have a good solution they are using?
>
> *Sean Heskett*
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[AFMUG] Chain 0, Chain 1

2022-01-06 Thread Jaime Solorza 
On Ubiquiti AC Gen2 Rockets...aren't chain 0 horizontal and chain 1
vertical polarity?
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Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

2022-01-06 Thread dmmoffett 
I’m pretty sure someone really did make a dish ice cover that was a drawstring 
sack.  Pull string, tie knot, done.  Same idea as trash bag, but it was sized 
for the dish and looked a little nicer.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 2:16 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

 

coming soon, McCown technology UV stabilized trash bags!

 

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

Trash bags are proven, effective and cheap.  You just have to replace them when 
they get shredded.  

 

From: Sean Heskett 

Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 11:38 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

 

Until cambium or another vendor provides a better professional solution then we 
gotta do what we gotta do lol.  

 

Sean 

 

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 11:34 AM Colin Stanners mailto:cstann...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Wrapping antennas in cellophane is like going back to early 2000s "indoor 
Linksys routers in tupperware" hackery.

 

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 12:08 PM Sean Heskett, mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

We are going to try some different sprays as well as wrapping the antenna in 
cellophane (like what boat owners use to winterize their boats) to create a 
makeshift radome

 

Sean

 

 

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:26 AM Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

Travis's suggestion of a hefty garbage bag comes to mind.  That was the best 
they found.  But since it's high frequency it's probably not hiding from plain 
sight on a tower. 

 

Have you tried an annual spray of NeverWet?  Works great on my shoes.


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St 

 
Suite 1337 

 
Troy, OH 45373 

 

 

 

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

Hello, 

 

Are there any other WISPs who have installed cambium cnWave v3000s in a snowy 
environment? We are having trouble with snow building up on the dishes.

 

It would be nice if Cambium allowed you to install it upside down but then the 
cable glands are facing up.

 

It would also be nice if there was some sort of radome.

 

Or if there was a heating pad you could power with the AUX port power.

 

thoughts??  ideas??  

 

Does anyone have a good solution they are using?

 

Sean Heskett

 

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Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

2022-01-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF 
I did.  It was a flop in the market.  

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 12:46 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

I’m pretty sure someone really did make a dish ice cover that was a drawstring 
sack.  Pull string, tie knot, done.  Same idea as trash bag, but it was sized 
for the dish and looked a little nicer.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 2:16 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

 

coming soon, McCown technology UV stabilized trash bags!

 

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  Trash bags are proven, effective and cheap.  You just have to replace them 
when they get shredded.  

   

  From: Sean Heskett 

  Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 11:38 AM

  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

   

  Until cambium or another vendor provides a better professional solution then 
we gotta do what we gotta do lol.  

   

  Sean 

   

  On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 11:34 AM Colin Stanners  wrote:

Wrapping antennas in cellophane is like going back to early 2000s "indoor 
Linksys routers in tupperware" hackery.

 

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 12:08 PM Sean Heskett,  wrote:

  We are going to try some different sprays as well as wrapping the antenna 
in cellophane (like what boat owners use to winterize their boats) to create a 
makeshift radome

   

  Sean

   

   

  On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:26 AM Josh Luthman  
wrote:

Travis's suggestion of a hefty garbage bag comes to mind.  That was the 
best they found.  But since it's high frequency it's probably not hiding from 
plain sight on a tower. 

 

Have you tried an annual spray of NeverWet?  Works great on my shoes.


 

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

  Hello, 

   

  Are there any other WISPs who have installed cambium cnWave v3000s in 
a snowy environment? We are having trouble with snow building up on the dishes.

   

  It would be nice if Cambium allowed you to install it upside down but 
then the cable glands are facing up.

   

  It would also be nice if there was some sort of radome.

   

  Or if there was a heating pad you could power with the AUX port power.

   

  thoughts??  ideas??  

   

  Does anyone have a good solution they are using?

   

  Sean Heskett

   

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Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

2022-01-06 Thread dmmoffett 
That’s too bad.  It’s a solid idea overall.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 3:05 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

 

I did.  It was a flop in the market.  

 

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com   

Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 12:46 PM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

 

I’m pretty sure someone really did make a dish ice cover that was a drawstring 
sack.  Pull string, tie knot, done.  Same idea as trash bag, but it was sized 
for the dish and looked a little nicer.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of TJ Trout
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 2:16 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

 

coming soon, McCown technology UV stabilized trash bags!

 

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 10:56 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

Trash bags are proven, effective and cheap.  You just have to replace them when 
they get shredded.  

 

From: Sean Heskett 

Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 11:38 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cnWave v3000 in snowy environments

 

Until cambium or another vendor provides a better professional solution then we 
gotta do what we gotta do lol.  

 

Sean 

 

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 11:34 AM Colin Stanners mailto:cstann...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Wrapping antennas in cellophane is like going back to early 2000s "indoor 
Linksys routers in tupperware" hackery.

 

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 12:08 PM Sean Heskett, mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

We are going to try some different sprays as well as wrapping the antenna in 
cellophane (like what boat owners use to winterize their boats) to create a 
makeshift radome

 

Sean

 

 

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:26 AM Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

Travis's suggestion of a hefty garbage bag comes to mind.  That was the best 
they found.  But since it's high frequency it's probably not hiding from plain 
sight on a tower. 

 

Have you tried an annual spray of NeverWet?  Works great on my shoes.


 

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 6:02 PM Sean Heskett mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

Hello, 

 

Are there any other WISPs who have installed cambium cnWave v3000s in a snowy 
environment? We are having trouble with snow building up on the dishes.

 

It would be nice if Cambium allowed you to install it upside down but then the 
cable glands are facing up.

 

It would also be nice if there was some sort of radome.

 

Or if there was a heating pad you could power with the AUX port power.

 

thoughts??  ideas??  

 

Does anyone have a good solution they are using?

 

Sean Heskett

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Chain 0, Chain 1

2022-01-06 Thread Mathew Howard 
Depends what they're plugged in to...

I think that's what they line up with on Ubiquiti antennas, but they could
theoretically be either. If I remember correctly, chain 0 is H and 1 is V
on all of the Ubiquiti radios with integrated antennas (powerbeams,
nanostations, etc.), but it should make any difference if they're
mismatched.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 1:42 PM Jaime Solorza 
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> On Ubiquiti AC Gen2 Rockets...aren't chain 0 horizontal and chain 1
> vertical polarity?
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Re: [AFMUG] Chain 0, Chain 1

2022-01-06 Thread Jaime Solorza 
Thanks

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 2:28 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Depends what they're plugged in to...
>
> I think that's what they line up with on Ubiquiti antennas, but they could
> theoretically be either. If I remember correctly, chain 0 is H and 1 is V
> on all of the Ubiquiti radios with integrated antennas (powerbeams,
> nanostations, etc.), but it should make any difference if they're
> mismatched.
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 1:42 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> On Ubiquiti AC Gen2 Rockets...aren't chain 0 horizontal and chain 1
>> vertical polarity?
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Re: [AFMUG] Somewhere in Montana

2022-01-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF 
I just borrowed a few nuts...

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 4:36 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Somewhere in Montana

Yikes



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Re: [AFMUG] Somewhere in Montana

2022-01-06 Thread Jaime Solorza 
60 mph winds

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 4:39 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I just borrowed a few nuts...
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 6, 2022 4:36 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Somewhere in Montana
>
> Yikes
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Re: [AFMUG] Somewhere in Montana

2022-01-06 Thread Chuck McCown via AF 
That is not that much.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 6, 2022, at 6:44 PM, Jaime Solorza  wrote:
> 
> 
> 60 mph winds
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 4:39 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>> I just borrowed a few nuts...
>>  
>> From: Jaime Solorza
>> Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 4:36 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Somewhere in Montana
>>  
>> Yikes
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Re: [AFMUG] Somewhere in Montana

2022-01-06 Thread Robert 
We had 147 mph winds on the tops in Reno last week..   60 we don't even 
consider windy..  That was just before the anemometer stopped working..


On 1/6/22 6:39 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

That is not that much.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 6, 2022, at 6:44 PM, Jaime Solorza  
wrote:



60 mph winds

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 4:39 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

I just borrowed a few nuts...
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Thursday, January 6, 2022 4:36 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Somewhere in Montana
Yikes


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Re: [AFMUG] Somewhere in Montana

2022-01-06 Thread Bill Prince 
Agreed,

60 MPH is barely above what we consider a breeze around here.

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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 6:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> That is not that much.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 6, 2022, at 6:44 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
> 
> 60 mph winds
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 4:39 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>
>> I just borrowed a few nuts...
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 6, 2022 4:36 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Somewhere in Montana
>>
>> Yikes
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