Re: [AFMUG] Govt money

[Steve Jones]

My fantasy is to be able to build out a town with dual ducts. Dual through
distribution all the way to the house. One is populated with dual gpon. One
duct set is empty. Either of the built gpon can be leased or the empty
duct. No harware, just fiber and duct. This opens that town to an
affordable option for consumers since 3 providers can operate generating
actual competition, not the bullshit monopolies the gubmint is funding now.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 4:25 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
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> Personally I'd also like to see a requirement that any last mile plant be
> built using the model where they bring a single strand or two from each
> home to a central point in each neighborhood.   Then, they must offer
> access to those strands on a non discriminatory basis.Bonus points if
> you structure it such that the fiber access piece must not generate any
> meaningful profit.
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 2:59 PM Cameron Crum  wrote:
>
>> Hey all, if you have a few spare minutes, I'd love for you to take a look
>> at these comments made to the HTIA about the best way to use all the new
>> money from the infrastructure bill. This is from one of the companies I'm
>> currently working with. Basically they are advocating for the money to be
>> spent on a robust middle mile nationwide network open to anyone with local
>> govt or private entities providing the last mile via wireless or fiber
>> where fiber makes sense. This is in lieu of just handing money to the big
>> carriers again, because we all know how that works. I know we would
>> appreciate any comments on the ntia site, especially those in support of
>> the proposition. Link is
>>
>>  https://www.regulations.gov/comment/NTIA-2021-0002-0318
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Re: [AFMUG] Govt money

[Cameron Crum]

Yeah, that is the idea behind the Neo comments. It would be open access
middle mile.

Cameron

On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 4:35 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Just to clarify I'm also OK with middle mile projects.
>
> I just would like to see that whatever we build with taxpayer dollars is
> able to be used by all.There are a few countries which have adopted
> this model with good success.   That is, the government one way or another
> subsidizes the build of the actual fiber infrastructure.  The government
> has standards that make it easy for companies to utilize this
> infrastructure (such as frequent breakout points, sufficient backbone
> strands, last mile architectures which support multiple technologies, etc)
>
> Then, any provider who wants to provide service just needs to locate gear
> in the right spots and not worry about the fiber build.
>
> The costs of the build are amortized over the life of the plant so it
> doesn't turn into a 'cheaper to build our own' situation.
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 3:23 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Personally I'd also like to see a requirement that any last mile plant be
>> built using the model where they bring a single strand or two from each
>> home to a central point in each neighborhood.   Then, they must offer
>> access to those strands on a non discriminatory basis.Bonus points if
>> you structure it such that the fiber access piece must not generate any
>> meaningful profit.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 2:59 PM Cameron Crum  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all, if you have a few spare minutes, I'd love for you to take a
>>> look at these comments made to the HTIA about the best way to use all the
>>> new money from the infrastructure bill. This is from one of the companies
>>> I'm currently working with. Basically they are advocating for the money to
>>> be spent on a robust middle mile nationwide network open to anyone with
>>> local govt or private entities providing the last mile via wireless or
>>> fiber where fiber makes sense. This is in lieu of just handing money to the
>>> big carriers again, because we all know how that works. I know we would
>>> appreciate any comments on the ntia site, especially those in support of
>>> the proposition. Link is
>>>
>>>  https://www.regulations.gov/comment/NTIA-2021-0002-0318
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Re: [AFMUG] Govt money

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Just to clarify I'm also OK with middle mile projects.

I just would like to see that whatever we build with taxpayer dollars is
able to be used by all.There are a few countries which have adopted
this model with good success.   That is, the government one way or another
subsidizes the build of the actual fiber infrastructure.  The government
has standards that make it easy for companies to utilize this
infrastructure (such as frequent breakout points, sufficient backbone
strands, last mile architectures which support multiple technologies, etc)

Then, any provider who wants to provide service just needs to locate gear
in the right spots and not worry about the fiber build.

The costs of the build are amortized over the life of the plant so it
doesn't turn into a 'cheaper to build our own' situation.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 3:23 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> Personally I'd also like to see a requirement that any last mile plant be
> built using the model where they bring a single strand or two from each
> home to a central point in each neighborhood.   Then, they must offer
> access to those strands on a non discriminatory basis.Bonus points if
> you structure it such that the fiber access piece must not generate any
> meaningful profit.
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 2:59 PM Cameron Crum  wrote:
>
>> Hey all, if you have a few spare minutes, I'd love for you to take a look
>> at these comments made to the HTIA about the best way to use all the new
>> money from the infrastructure bill. This is from one of the companies I'm
>> currently working with. Basically they are advocating for the money to be
>> spent on a robust middle mile nationwide network open to anyone with local
>> govt or private entities providing the last mile via wireless or fiber
>> where fiber makes sense. This is in lieu of just handing money to the big
>> carriers again, because we all know how that works. I know we would
>> appreciate any comments on the ntia site, especially those in support of
>> the proposition. Link is
>>
>>  https://www.regulations.gov/comment/NTIA-2021-0002-0318
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Re: [AFMUG] Govt money

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Personally I'd also like to see a requirement that any last mile plant be
built using the model where they bring a single strand or two from each
home to a central point in each neighborhood.   Then, they must offer
access to those strands on a non discriminatory basis.Bonus points if
you structure it such that the fiber access piece must not generate any
meaningful profit.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, 2:59 PM Cameron Crum  wrote:

> Hey all, if you have a few spare minutes, I'd love for you to take a look
> at these comments made to the HTIA about the best way to use all the new
> money from the infrastructure bill. This is from one of the companies I'm
> currently working with. Basically they are advocating for the money to be
> spent on a robust middle mile nationwide network open to anyone with local
> govt or private entities providing the last mile via wireless or fiber
> where fiber makes sense. This is in lieu of just handing money to the big
> carriers again, because we all know how that works. I know we would
> appreciate any comments on the ntia site, especially those in support of
> the proposition. Link is
>
>  https://www.regulations.gov/comment/NTIA-2021-0002-0318
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[AFMUG] Govt money

[Cameron Crum]

Hey all, if you have a few spare minutes, I'd love for you to take a look
at these comments made to the HTIA about the best way to use all the new
money from the infrastructure bill. This is from one of the companies I'm
currently working with. Basically they are advocating for the money to be
spent on a robust middle mile nationwide network open to anyone with local
govt or private entities providing the last mile via wireless or fiber
where fiber makes sense. This is in lieu of just handing money to the big
carriers again, because we all know how that works. I know we would
appreciate any comments on the ntia site, especially those in support of
the proposition. Link is

 https://www.regulations.gov/comment/NTIA-2021-0002-0318
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Re: [AFMUG] Obscure product search: flippable, locking mount for omni on side of vehicle

[Brian Webster]

Something like these? Just be careful as to the coax loss for the frequencies 
you want to use this for. Most of these are for much lower frequencies and will 
probably have horrible loss at higher frequencies.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Nagoya-RB-700N-Universal-Hatchbacks-Adjustable/dp/B07CQQJ7CN/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=nmo+antenna+mount
 

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https://www.amazon.com/Bingfu-Vehicle-Transceiver-Bulkhead-Connector/dp/B07R7RBGXF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=QXF0EV62S68P
 

 
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https://www.amazon.com/Bewinner-Adjustable-Antenna-Rotation-Anti-Scratch/dp/B07QS97KJM/ref=sr_1_16?crid=QXF0EV62S68P
 

 
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https://www.amazon.com/Bingfu-Vehicle-Antenna-Connector-Transceiver/dp/B07RBNVVZZ/ref=sr_1_20?crid=QXF0EV62S68P
 

 
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https://www.amazon.com/RS-660U-Roof-antenna-mount-opening/dp/B00FYUI1RA/ref=sr_1_21?crid=QXF0EV62S68P
 

 
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Thank you,

Brian Webster

214 Eggleston Hill Rd.

Cooperstown, NY 13326

(607) 643-4055 Office

(607) 435-3988 Mobile

www.wirelessmapping.com

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 12:06 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Obscure product search: flippable, locking mount for omni on 
side of vehicle

 

Hi all, I'm looking at an option for better/more reliable data access on 
stationary business vehicles. If there was a position-locking flippable mount 
installed on the side of the vehicle, a 2-3ft thin omni could be installed that 
would flip down for transport and be manually flipped up for use. Of course 
that has a risk of damage if forgotten but there are other solutions for that. 
I was wondering if anyone had seen a commercial product that would work for 
this.  Thank you.

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[AFMUG] Obscure product search: flippable, locking mount for omni on side of vehicle

[Colin Stanners]

Hi all, I'm looking at an option for better/more reliable data access on
stationary business vehicles. If there was a position-locking flippable
mount installed on the side of the vehicle, a 2-3ft thin omni could be
installed that would flip down for transport and be manually flipped up for
use. Of course that has a risk of damage if forgotten but there are other
solutions for that. I was wondering if anyone had seen a commercial product
that would work for this.  Thank you.
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