Re: [AFMUG] OT wechat

[Colin Stanners]

I installed WeChat to communicate with Chinese suppliers. I went to a
nearby Chinese restaurant where I knew the staff and they scanned my QR as
a "friend" or similar so that I could be authorized. Ridiculous method of
signup and questionable privacy implications but it is a way to prevent
false registrations. If you send me a screenshot of your code I can try to
scan it.



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wrote:

>
> Trying to get a tech support call going with a Chinese company.  They use
> wechat.  I tried to install it and it requires another wechat user to scan
> a QR code on my phone.  That ain’t gonna happen.  I guess there is a manual
> way for another wechat user to let me into the club.
>
> Like to have a live translator on the call too.  Anyone have any
> recommendations?
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Re: [AFMUG] We Want Your Ideas

[Sean Heskett]

TVWS please!



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Re: [AFMUG] Tower PoE Switch Recommendations

[Sean Heskett]

We were using planet switches but found they have some limitations we don’t
like and they don’t really update their firmware unless it’s a security
issue.

We’ve been deploying mikrotik switches lately with good success.

-Sean


On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 3:37 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Thanks, what switches have you been having good luck with?
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 3:47 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> Our preferred solution is:
>> Switch of your choice + Packetflux Rack injector
>>
>> With the rack injector you can power pretty much anything.  And with the
>> switch of your choice you have unlimited options from dumb switch to layer3
>> or even full blown router
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 9:38 AM Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have any recommendations on a solid PoE switch to use at a
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[AFMUG] OT wechat

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Trying to get a tech support call going with a Chinese company.  They use 
wechat.  I tried to install it and it requires another wechat user to scan a QR 
code on my phone.  That ain’t gonna happen.  I guess there is a manual way for 
another wechat user to let me into the club.  

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Re: [AFMUG] Tower PoE Switch Recommendations

[Adam Moffett]

Yeah I can’t complain about rack injector.  Good solution

Get Outlook for iOS

From: AF  on behalf of Sean Heskett 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2022 3:44:50 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower PoE Switch Recommendations

Our preferred solution is:
Switch of your choice + Packetflux Rack injector

With the rack injector you can power pretty much anything.  And with the switch 
of your choice you have unlimited options from dumb switch to layer3 or even 
full blown router



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Re: [AFMUG] Tower PoE Switch Recommendations

[Jason McKemie]

Thanks, what switches have you been having good luck with?

On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 3:47 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Our preferred solution is:
> Switch of your choice + Packetflux Rack injector
>
> With the rack injector you can power pretty much anything.  And with the
> switch of your choice you have unlimited options from dumb switch to layer3
> or even full blown router
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 9:38 AM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any recommendations on a solid PoE switch to use at a
>> tower site? It would be nice if it had dual voltage options as well. --
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Re: [AFMUG] Tower PoE Switch Recommendations

[Sean Heskett]

Our preferred solution is:
Switch of your choice + Packetflux Rack injector

With the rack injector you can power pretty much anything.  And with the
switch of your choice you have unlimited options from dumb switch to layer3
or even full blown router



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> Does anyone have any recommendations on a solid PoE switch to use at a
> tower site? It would be nice if it had dual voltage options as well. --
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Re: [AFMUG] Tower PoE Switch Recommendations

[Josh Luthman]

Netonix and Cambium I think are your only options if you need dual
voltage...

On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 2:16 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> I guess my title was somewhat misleading, I'm looking for a switch for use
> at a tower site, but preferably rack-mount.  I'll look more at the mikrotik
> options.
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 1:01 PM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> I will only use Netpower16 anymore.  Love them.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 11:38 AM Jason McKemie <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have any recommendations on a solid PoE switch to use at a
>>> tower site? It would be nice if it had dual voltage options as well. --
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Re: [AFMUG] Tower PoE Switch Recommendations

[Jason McKemie]

Thanks.

I guess my title was somewhat misleading, I'm looking for a switch for use
at a tower site, but preferably rack-mount.  I'll look more at the mikrotik
options.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 1:01 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> I will only use Netpower16 anymore.  Love them.
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 11:38 AM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any recommendations on a solid PoE switch to use at a
>> tower site? It would be nice if it had dual voltage options as well. --
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Re: [AFMUG] Tower PoE Switch Recommendations

[Josh Luthman]

I will only use Netpower16 anymore.  Love them.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 11:38 AM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have any recommendations on a solid PoE switch to use at a
> tower site? It would be nice if it had dual voltage options as well. --
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[AFMUG] Mobile Backhaul

[Mike Hammett]

I'm looking for referrals to what you've worked with regarding mobile backhaul 
services. 


We've poked around at a few vendors and it seems like it's common to have 
products on either side of what I'm looking for. It appears common to offer: 


1) Just a basic 10x 10G -> 1x 100G muxponder. It seems silly to have a rack 
full of muxponders at the CO. 
2) Complicated any color to any color ROADM and 25g -> 400G aggregation DWDM 
systems that don't go down to the speeds the mobile operator would want. 




It doesn't seem like people have something that offers 1x or 2x 10G with 2x 
100G for east\west routing in a hardened, small form factor. Awesome if those 
100G were tunable, so I could plumb them into a passive wave system. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




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[AFMUG] Tower PoE Switch Recommendations

[Jason McKemie]

Does anyone have any recommendations on a solid PoE switch to use at a
tower site? It would be nice if it had dual voltage options as well.
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[AFMUG] We Want Your Ideas

[Ray Savich via AF]

Cambium Networks is committed to the success of broadband service providers 
around the world. We are conducting our sixth annual State of the Broadband 
Service Provider Market Survey. The vendor-neutral survey takes about 10 
minutes to complete. The topics focus on the state of the current business and 
vision of trends and opportunities. On completion of the survey, Cambium 
Networks will be glad to provide you with a complete report of the survey 
results.

Take the Survey

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Re: [AFMUG] Myakka

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Calix is good about letting you push back scheduled releases.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 19, 2022, at 7:17 AM, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
> 
> If you read the fine print you have to notify them before they give you a 
> ship date or you are on the hook for those.   Calix is not good about 
> providing ship dates and I don’t want to get caught on it.
> 
> At some point all of these manufacturers who are asking for two and three 
> years of PO’s are going to get caught with a shitload of excess inventory.  A 
> Purchase Order and Order Acknowledgement constitute a valid and enforceable 
> legal contract.   So all this talk of “just cancel what you don’t want” is 
> going to become just so much BS.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
>> On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:34 PM, Josh Luthman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> Order 2 years worth of stuff from Calix.  Just keep pushing the dates back.  
>> I think I did 5 years worth of u6x/u4m/axos cards/etc (I adjust it every 
>> month, simply push it back 30 days if you don't want them).
>> 
>> My guess is those POs we give them enable them to leverage that future 
>> revenue for bigger purchases from China or whatever.
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 5:31 PM Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
>>> We met with Calix this week and they say they can cover it - but of course 
>>> want 2 years of orders.Last time they asked for 6 months of orders 
>>> which we gave them - and they didn’t make that.  They usually pull 
>>> something out when we complain but it’s getting tiring.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
 On Jul 16, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
 
 Calix hangs out here.  Maybe Cory or someone can give us an update that 
 will give us some hope?
  
 From: Mark Radabaugh
 Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 1:41 PM
 To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 Cc: Chuck McCown
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Myakka
  
 Expensive, but it’s their inability to actually deliver product is going 
 to push us to go elsewhere.   Between their screwed up ERP system and the 
 other supply shortages it’s time to find an alternative.
  
 Mark
  
 
> On Jul 16, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>  
> It’s expensive but hard to go wrong with Calix. 
>  
> From: Mark Radabaugh
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 10:39 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Myakka
>  
> Mark - how are things working out with the GPON vendor?   Can’t say that 
> is one I have heard of (DZSI).I’m thinking it might be time to make 
> (another) vendor change.
>  
> Mark
>  
>  
> Mark Radabaugh
> Amplex
> 22690 Pemberville Rd
> Luckey, OH 43443
> 419-837-5015 x 1021
> 419-261-5996 cell
> m...@amplex.net
>  
>  
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2022, at 11:12 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>  wrote:
>>  
>> Josh,
>> 
>> I don’t think that was us.  I really haven't done anything I would say 
>> was crazy expensive.  Yes, 10 years ago when we put this in with the 
>> help of government money, it was definitely more expensive than than 
>> wireless.  However, I haven't had to do any fork lift upgrades in 10 
>> years.  I'm using the same original equipment at the head end.  We still 
>> get some lightning damage but it is a fraction of what we experienced 
>> with the wireless.  Not having to deal with roofs in the Florida summer 
>> is a bonus also.
>> 
>> We are still paying off the loan portion of the grant/loan.  We believe 
>> doing that program 10 years ago was the best business move we made for 
>> us and the community.  
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
>> 
>> Myakka Communications
>> www.Myakka.com
>> 
>> --
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>> Friday, July 15, 2022, 8:40:49 PM, you wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I could have sworn you told us you did some sort of crazy expensive run 
>> for some farmer that could have been done with PTP600 for a fraction of 
>> the cost like 10 years ago...paid for by the government...
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 2:13 PM Chuck McCown via AF  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well done.  I am trying to do the same.  Just no guvmnt dollars yet.  
>> Jealous.  
>> 
>> From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists
>> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 11:53 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Myakka
>> 
>> Mark gets some press! 
>> 
>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dzs-myakka-communications-leverage-government-12271.html
>> 
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>> CTIconnect
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>> 574-220-7826 Cell
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Re: [AFMUG] Myakka

[Mark Radabaugh]

If you read the fine print you have to notify them before they give you a ship 
date or you are on the hook for those.   Calix is not good about providing ship 
dates and I don’t want to get caught on it.

At some point all of these manufacturers who are asking for two and three years 
of PO’s are going to get caught with a shitload of excess inventory.  A 
Purchase Order and Order Acknowledgement constitute a valid and enforceable 
legal contract.   So all this talk of “just cancel what you don’t want” is 
going to become just so much BS.

Mark


> On Jul 18, 2022, at 12:34 PM, Josh Luthman  
> wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> Order 2 years worth of stuff from Calix.  Just keep pushing the dates back.  
> I think I did 5 years worth of u6x/u4m/axos cards/etc (I adjust it every 
> month, simply push it back 30 days if you don't want them).
> 
> My guess is those POs we give them enable them to leverage that future 
> revenue for bigger purchases from China or whatever.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 5:31 PM Mark Radabaugh  > wrote:
> We met with Calix this week and they say they can cover it - but of course 
> want 2 years of orders.Last time they asked for 6 months of orders which 
> we gave them - and they didn’t make that.  They usually pull something out 
> when we complain but it’s getting tiring.
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Chuck McCown > > wrote:
>> 
>> Calix hangs out here.  Maybe Cory or someone can give us an update that will 
>> give us some hope?
>>  
>> From: Mark Radabaugh <>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 1:41 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
>> Cc: Chuck McCown <>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Myakka
>>  
>> Expensive, but it’s their inability to actually deliver product is going to 
>> push us to go elsewhere.   Between their screwed up ERP system and the other 
>> supply shortages it’s time to find an alternative.
>>  
>> Mark
>>  
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Chuck McCown via AF > wrote:
>>>  
>>> It’s expensive but hard to go wrong with Calix. 
>>>  
>>> From: Mark Radabaugh <>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 10:39 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Myakka
>>>  
>>> Mark - how are things working out with the GPON vendor?   Can’t say that is 
>>> one I have heard of (DZSI).I’m thinking it might be time to make 
>>> (another) vendor change.
>>>  
>>> Mark
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Mark Radabaugh
>>> Amplex
>>> 22690 Pemberville Rd
>>> Luckey, OH 43443
>>> 419-837-5015 x 1021
>>> 419-261-5996 cell
>>> m...@amplex.net <>
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
 On Jul 16, 2022, at 11:12 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies >>> <>> wrote:
  
 Josh,
 
 I don’t think that was us.  I really haven't done anything I would say was 
 crazy expensive.  Yes, 10 years ago when we put this in with the help of 
 government money, it was definitely more expensive than than wireless.  
 However, I haven't had to do any fork lift upgrades in 10 years.  I'm 
 using the same original equipment at the head end.  We still get some 
 lightning damage but it is a fraction of what we experienced with the 
 wireless.  Not having to deal with roofs in the Florida summer is a bonus 
 also.
 
 We are still paying off the loan portion of the grant/loan.  We believe 
 doing that program 10 years ago was the best business move we made for us 
 and the community.  
 
 
 --
 Best regards,
 Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com <>
 
 Myakka Communications
 www.Myakka.com 
 
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 Friday, July 15, 2022, 8:40:49 PM, you wrote:
 
 
 I could have sworn you told us you did some sort of crazy expensive run 
 for some farmer that could have been done with PTP600 for a fraction of 
 the cost like 10 years ago...paid for by the government...
 
 On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 2:13 PM Chuck McCown via AF > 
 wrote:
 
 Well done.  I am trying to do the same.  Just no guvmnt dollars yet.  
 Jealous.  
 
 From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists
 Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 11:53 AM
 To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 Subject: [AFMUG] Myakka
 
 Mark gets some press! 
 
 https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dzs-myakka-communications-leverage-government-12271.html
  
 
 
 Jeff Broadwick 
 CTIconnect
 312-205-2519 Office
 574-220-7826 Cell
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