Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-10 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Juniper has caught the "subscription required to use on an ongoing basis"
disease all big routing/switching companies seem to eventually catch.
 Plus HP is trying to acquire them.

The current used gear is probably usable but there seems to be some debate
how long this will last as far as any future software updates.

So... if you're happy with the functionality of current software,  they are
a solid option.   Just don't expect to be able to use the next generation
in a similar way.

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> Is this worth looking at or is it too problematic from a support / update
> perspective? New Juniper is not in my budget.
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Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-10 Thread Colin Stanners
I had read (here?) that at one time any paying Juniper support account
holder had access to all product firmware files, so some companies would
buy the cheapest Juniper product - like a switch under $1000 - and its
cheap support contract, from a standard Juniper supplier, so they could get
firmware updates for all their eBay-sourced gear.


On Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 8:54 p.m. Jason McKemie <
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Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-10 Thread Dev
They basically last forever, more or less, and you can plop the old config into 
a shelf spare in case you brick your other box, pretty hard to beat. Online 
forum support is pretty good, and you can get any number of contractors to help 
you get unstuck if you can get your routing to behave.

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Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-10 Thread Zach Underwood
While not juniper and with no support we have done very well with used
Arista. We got 12x 100gb +24 x40gb router that can do bgp for under 10k
eaxh.

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[AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-10 Thread Jason McKemie
Is this worth looking at or is it too problematic from a support / update
perspective? New Juniper is not in my budget.
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