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Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 200-foot radio tower stolen

2024-02-20 Thread Ken Hohhof

But if I’m late with my CPNI and BDC and 499A filings, they’ll fine me out of 
existence.

From: AF  On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 10:17 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 200-foot 
radio tower stolen

well - a few things that have come out now and are "known"

This station billed itself as "101.5 WJLX".  No mention of the AM .

It's assumed no one has listened to the AM for years.

Videos and posts have circulated online that the AM broadcast site hadn't been 
active for years.

This thread has determined the tower went "missing" sometime between October 
2022 and March 2023.

The site was likely in poor shape long before that.

Not sure what prompted the great "oh! it's missing!" debacle unless he was 
aware he was about to get

violated by the FCC or something.

https://www.radiodiscussions.com/threads/wjlx-wjbe-and-werh-oh-my.769948/

- Original Message - 

From: Chuck McCown via AF   

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group   

Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com   

Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 2:36 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 200-foot 
radio tower stolen

Someone said they unbolted the sections.  

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 1:32 PM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 200-foot 
radio tower stolen

So you’re saying they used an axe?

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 2:21 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 200-foot 
radio tower stolen

I was the first to jump to it being either an inside job or someone that really 
had an axe to grind with the owner.

The effort involved in stealing a tower would not be worth the value of the 
scrap steel I would not think.  

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 1:16 PM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 200-foot 
radio tower stolen

Not once you cut the wires and/or steal the transmitter.

But there have been multiple reports the site has been offline for years and 
lying to the FCC so they can operate via their FM repeater.  Not saying the 
reports are true, what’s the acronym now for “just asking questions”, JAQ?

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 2:09 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 200-foot 
radio tower stolen

How does somebody steal an AM tower without getting electrocuted? arent they 
all energized? 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 5:50 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote:

Is that the “you’re not using it so it’s mine now” rule?

Does that apply to cars?  How about spouses?

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 4:53 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 200-foot 
radio tower stolen

It's in our neighboring county.  Been there, know the guy, know the station.

For those of you who don't know, I operate a LPFM in our home county (since 
2014)

1)  Ok, why on EARTH is this viral?  Like internationally viral?

2)  For all the backstory  / scuttlebutt you could ever want (and not even on 
facebook) : 

https://www.radiodiscussions.com/threads/wjlx-200-tower-reported-stolen.769741

3)  Ok, so chop chop the guy wires, the tower thuds on the ground and you just 
unscrew it in 10 foot sections

just like a rohn25, no?  I don't know how "no one" knew it was missing tho.  
Clearly no one listens to that AM,

except for the locals, who say it has been off air for at least 5 years.

In my home county we have two licensed AMS,  1340 and 1460.  1460 has been off 
air for at least 5 years,

but never filed as silent and still shows as licensed.  1340 signed off last 
week - the property had been abandoned,

seized for unpaid taxes, auctioned from the federal government (all by the guy 
currently running it), and now it's being

sold for a development of houses.  Good for them.

Promise you lots of other AMS feeding fm translators where the AMs are also 
silent

- Original Message - 

From: Chuck McCown via AF 

To: af@af.afmug.com   

Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com   

Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 2:18 PM

Subject: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 200-foot radio tower stolen

2024-02-20 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller


well - a few things that have come out now and are "known"

This station billed itself as "101.5 WJLX".  No mention of the AM .
It's assumed no one has listened to the AM for years.
Videos and posts have circulated online that the AM broadcast site hadn't been 
active for years.

This thread has determined the tower went "missing" sometime between October 
2022 and March 2023.
The site was likely in poor shape long before that.

Not sure what prompted the great "oh! it's missing!" debacle unless he was 
aware he was about to get
violated by the FCC or something.

https://www.radiodiscussions.com/threads/wjlx-wjbe-and-werh-oh-my.769948/


  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck McCown via AF 
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 2:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 
200-foot radio tower stolen


  Someone said they unbolted the sections.  


  From: Ken Hohhof 
  Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 1:32 PM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 
200-foot radio tower stolen

  So you’re saying they used an axe?

   

  From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
  Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 2:21 PM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
  Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 
200-foot radio tower stolen

   

  I was the first to jump to it being either an inside job or someone that 
really had an axe to grind with the owner.

  The effort involved in stealing a tower would not be worth the value of the 
scrap steel I would not think.  

   

   

   

  From: Ken Hohhof 

  Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 1:16 PM

  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 
200-foot radio tower stolen

   

  Not once you cut the wires and/or steal the transmitter.

   

  But there have been multiple reports the site has been offline for years and 
lying to the FCC so they can operate via their FM repeater.  Not saying the 
reports are true, what’s the acronym now for “just asking questions”, JAQ?

   

  From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
  Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 2:09 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 
200-foot radio tower stolen

   

  How does somebody steal an AM tower without getting electrocuted? arent they 
all energized? 

   

  On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 5:50 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

Is that the “you’re not using it so it’s mine now” rule?

 

Does that apply to cars?  How about spouses?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 4:53 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 
200-foot radio tower stolen

 

 

It's in our neighboring county.  Been there, know the guy, know the station.

For those of you who don't know, I operate a LPFM in our home county (since 
2014)

 

1)  Ok, why on EARTH is this viral?  Like internationally viral?

 

2)  For all the backstory  / scuttlebutt you could ever want (and not even 
on facebook) : 

 


https://www.radiodiscussions.com/threads/wjlx-200-tower-reported-stolen.769741

 

3)  Ok, so chop chop the guy wires, the tower thuds on the ground and you 
just unscrew it in 10 foot sections

just like a rohn25, no?  I don't know how "no one" knew it was missing tho. 
 Clearly no one listens to that AM,

except for the locals, who say it has been off air for at least 5 years.

 

In my home county we have two licensed AMS,  1340 and 1460.  1460 has been 
off air for at least 5 years,

but never filed as silent and still shows as licensed.  1340 signed off 
last week - the property had been abandoned,

seized for unpaid taxes, auctioned from the federal government (all by the 
guy currently running it), and now it's being

sold for a development of houses.  Good for them.

 

Promise you lots of other AMS feeding fm translators where the AMs are also 
silent

 

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Chuck McCown via AF 

  To: af@af.afmug.com 

  Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 

  Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 2:18 PM

  Subject: [AFMUG] Fw: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 
200-foot radio tower stolen

   

   

  From: Jaime Solorza 

  Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 12:42 PM

  To: Chuck McCown 

  Subject: NBC News: Alabama station in disbelief after 200-foot radio 
tower stolen

   

  
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alabama-station-disbelief-200-foot-radio-tower-stolen-rcna137877
 


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Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread Jesse DuPont



  
  
The Commscope DB365W is an effective mount. If
  the wood pole was originally for electric usage, it may already be
  drilled for cross arm and braces and this goes into those nicely!

On 2/20/24 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown via
  AF wrote:


  
  

  I sold off all my tower mount business to a local
fabricator.  Not sure if he is doing the chain mount or
not.  
   
  Hunter Clark  hun...@c3fab.com
   
  Best
Regards,
Chuck McCown

McCown Technology Corporation 
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench.pro
www.terabitnetworks.com
  

   
  
From: Jeff
Broadwick - Lists 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 11:10 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount
  

 
  
  Chain
mount.  Chuck has them as does PV and CommScope.

   
  Regards,
   
  Jeff 
   
  Jeff Broadwick
  CTIconnect
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
  


  On Feb 20, 2024, at 1:06 PM, Ken
Hohhof  wrote:

  


  



  I
  think I’ve got some of the Valmont ones on the
  shelf.  Like everything from SitePro1, they are
  huskier than they look in the catalog.
   
  

  From: AF
 On Behalf Of
dmmoff...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 11:40 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

  
   
  +1 to both of those suggestions.
  
I’ve
  seen plenty of universal mounts attached to a
  wooden pole (J-arms, J-pipes, or whatever you want
  to call them). 
Rohn
  WM4 is the name brand galvanized 4” wall mount,
  but there are a thousand copies out there.  Just
  watch out for zinc plating or other BS finishes. 
  I’m sure Channel Master is fine.
  
   
  One other thing, you’re not
supposed to drill into the top surface of a wooden
pole because rain will pool in the holes and speed
up rotting.  You’re also not supposed to drill the
sides within so many inches of the top (4” maybe? I
don’t recall).  That’s why those pole-top mounts you
see are straddling the top and have bolt holes
farther down.  If you put a galvanized pipe into one
of those wall mounts then you can have your mast
above the top and also not be putting hardware at
the top.  Electric/phone companies won’t like that
solution because it uses more vertical real estate,
but if it’s just a light pole then it ought not be a
problem.
   
  If you do want something heavy
duty that won’t break the bank then look at the Site
Pro version of the WM4:
  https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list=1218
  https://valmont-sitepro1-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/spec-sheet/HDWM04%20(Assembly).pdf
  I don’t know the thickness of the
steel stock, but the Channel Master one weighs 1
pound and the Site Pro one weighs 6.8 pounds, so I’m
sure it’s sufficiently burly for most equipment.
   
  -Adam
   
   
  
From: AF 
  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 10:52 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole

Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread dmmoffett

I've been wracking my brain on that description.  If there's band clamp it 
usually goes the other way, with a band clamp around the pole and they give you 
either a stud or a threaded hole to mount your equipment on.  I wonder if they 
took a banding mount and just installed it backwards.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 2:54 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

I like this but pricey but still will likely go with it if I find nothing else.
https://www.commscope.com/product-type/structural-support-tools-accessories/structural-support-equipment/structural-mounts/pipe-mounts/itemdb365w/

I saw one on a pole a few weeks back that had a banding bracket with a hose 
clamp that went around the steel pipe and a long bolt that went through the 
wood pole. Been looking online for something like that with no luck. Its like 
above with bolt through pole but instead of clamp kit it had a banding bracket 
and hose clamp to attach to the metal pipe.

Have used j-arms for this before but they're flimsy and have had them blow over 
in the wind. Not wanting that to happen in this application.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 9:29 AM Matt  wrote:
>
> I need to mount a small steel pole to a wood light pole. The kits I 
> see online are like $300 range and way more robust than I need. Just 
> mounting a small yagi a few feet above the top of the wood pole. Does 
> anyone know of anything?

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Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread dmmoffett

I know what I would do, but you can do whatever feels right.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 6:18 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

But on the nut, curve in or out?... ;-)

-Original Message-
From: dmmoff...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 4:04 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

If you're putting that rod through a pole, spend an extra $2 on a square
curve washer for the back side:
https://www.linemen-tools.com/Square_Curved_Washer_2_1_2_x_2_1_2_x_3_16_J682
2_p/h-j6822.htm

What you're describing might be a conduit standoff bracket.  That same
linemen-tools.com site may have something similar if you dig through their
catalog.

-Adam

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 2:54 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

I like this but pricey but still will likely go with it if I find nothing
else.
https://www.commscope.com/product-type/structural-support-tools-accessories/
structural-support-equipment/structural-mounts/pipe-mounts/itemdb365w/

I saw one on a pole a few weeks back that had a banding bracket with a hose
clamp that went around the steel pipe and a long bolt that went through the
wood pole. Been looking online for something like that with no luck. Its
like above with bolt through pole but instead of clamp kit it had a banding
bracket and hose clamp to attach to the metal pipe.

Have used j-arms for this before but they're flimsy and have had them blow
over in the wind. Not wanting that to happen in this application.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 9:29 AM Matt  wrote:
>
> I need to mount a small steel pole to a wood light pole. The kits I
> see online are like $300 range and way more robust than I need. Just
> mounting a small yagi a few feet above the top of the wood pole. Does
> anyone know of anything?

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Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

But on the nut, curve in or out?... ;-)

-Original Message- 
From: dmmoff...@gmail.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 4:04 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

If you're putting that rod through a pole, spend an extra $2 on a square 
curve washer for the back side:

https://www.linemen-tools.com/Square_Curved_Washer_2_1_2_x_2_1_2_x_3_16_J6822_p/h-j6822.htm

What you're describing might be a conduit standoff bracket.  That same 
linemen-tools.com site may have something similar if you dig through their 
catalog.

-Adam

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 2:54 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

I like this but pricey but still will likely go with it if I find nothing 
else.

https://www.commscope.com/product-type/structural-support-tools-accessories/structural-support-equipment/structural-mounts/pipe-mounts/itemdb365w/

I saw one on a pole a few weeks back that had a banding bracket with a hose 
clamp that went around the steel pipe and a long bolt that went through the 
wood pole. Been looking online for something like that with no luck. Its 
like above with bolt through pole but instead of clamp kit it had a banding 
bracket and hose clamp to attach to the metal pipe.

Have used j-arms for this before but they're flimsy and have had them blow 
over in the wind. Not wanting that to happen in this application.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 9:29 AM Matt  wrote:

I need to mount a small steel pole to a wood light pole. The kits I
see online are like $300 range and way more robust than I need. Just
mounting a small yagi a few feet above the top of the wood pole. Does
anyone know of anything?

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Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread dmmoffett

If you're putting that rod through a pole, spend an extra $2 on a square curve 
washer for the back side:
https://www.linemen-tools.com/Square_Curved_Washer_2_1_2_x_2_1_2_x_3_16_J6822_p/h-j6822.htm

What you're describing might be a conduit standoff bracket.  That same 
linemen-tools.com site may have something similar if you dig through their 
catalog.

-Adam

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 2:54 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

I like this but pricey but still will likely go with it if I find nothing else.
https://www.commscope.com/product-type/structural-support-tools-accessories/structural-support-equipment/structural-mounts/pipe-mounts/itemdb365w/

I saw one on a pole a few weeks back that had a banding bracket with a hose 
clamp that went around the steel pipe and a long bolt that went through the 
wood pole. Been looking online for something like that with no luck. Its like 
above with bolt through pole but instead of clamp kit it had a banding bracket 
and hose clamp to attach to the metal pipe.

Have used j-arms for this before but they're flimsy and have had them blow over 
in the wind. Not wanting that to happen in this application.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 9:29 AM Matt  wrote:
>
> I need to mount a small steel pole to a wood light pole. The kits I 
> see online are like $300 range and way more robust than I need. Just 
> mounting a small yagi a few feet above the top of the wood pole. Does 
> anyone know of anything?

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Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread Matt

I like this but pricey but still will likely go with it if I find nothing else.
https://www.commscope.com/product-type/structural-support-tools-accessories/structural-support-equipment/structural-mounts/pipe-mounts/itemdb365w/

I saw one on a pole a few weeks back that had a banding bracket with a
hose clamp that went around the steel pipe and a long bolt that went
through the wood pole. Been looking online for something like that
with no luck. Its like above with bolt through pole but instead of
clamp kit it had a banding bracket and hose clamp to attach to the
metal pipe.

Have used j-arms for this before but they're flimsy and have had them
blow over in the wind. Not wanting that to happen in this application.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 9:29 AM Matt  wrote:
>
> I need to mount a small steel pole to a wood light pole. The kits I
> see online are like $300 range and way more robust than I need. Just
> mounting a small yagi a few feet above the top of the wood pole. Does
> anyone know of anything?

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Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread Chuck McCown via AF

I sold off all my tower mount business to a local fabricator.  Not sure if he 
is doing the chain mount or not.  

Hunter Clark  hun...@c3fab.com

Best Regards,
Chuck McCown

McCown Technology Corporation 
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench.pro
www.terabitnetworks.com

From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 11:10 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

Chain mount.  Chuck has them as does PV and CommScope.


Regards,

Jeff 

Jeff Broadwick 
CTIconnect

312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com


  On Feb 20, 2024, at 1:06 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:


   
  I think I’ve got some of the Valmont ones on the shelf.  Like everything from 
SitePro1, they are huskier than they look in the catalog.

   

  From: AF  On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 11:40 AM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

   

  +1 to both of those suggestions.

a.. I’ve seen plenty of universal mounts attached to a wooden pole (J-arms, 
J-pipes, or whatever you want to call them). 
b.. Rohn WM4 is the name brand galvanized 4” wall mount, but there are a 
thousand copies out there.  Just watch out for zinc plating or other BS 
finishes.  I’m sure Channel Master is fine.
   

  One other thing, you’re not supposed to drill into the top surface of a 
wooden pole because rain will pool in the holes and speed up rotting.  You’re 
also not supposed to drill the sides within so many inches of the top (4” 
maybe? I don’t recall).  That’s why those pole-top mounts you see are 
straddling the top and have bolt holes farther down.  If you put a galvanized 
pipe into one of those wall mounts then you can have your mast above the top 
and also not be putting hardware at the top.  Electric/phone companies won’t 
like that solution because it uses more vertical real estate, but if it’s just 
a light pole then it ought not be a problem.

   

  If you do want something heavy duty that won’t break the bank then look at 
the Site Pro version of the WM4:

  https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list=1218

  
https://valmont-sitepro1-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/spec-sheet/HDWM04%20(Assembly).pdf

  I don’t know the thickness of the steel stock, but the Channel Master one 
weighs 1 pound and the Site Pro one weighs 6.8 pounds, so I’m sure it’s 
sufficiently burly for most equipment.

   

  -Adam

   

   

  From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 10:52 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

   

  Or the ChannelMaster 4" offset wall mounts, we call them W brackets.

   Original Message 
  From: "Josh Luthman" 
  Sent: 2/20/2024 9:37:59 AM
  To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

  Just use a Jpole?  Or an MTOW?

   

  On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:31?AM Matt  wrote:

I need to mount a small steel pole to a wood light pole. The kits I
see online are like $300 range and way more robust than I need. Just
mounting a small yagi a few feet above the top of the wood pole. Does
anyone know of anything?

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Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists

Chain mount.  Chuck has them as does PV and CommScope.Regards,Jeff Jeff BroadwickCTIconnect312-205-2519 Office574-220-7826 Celljbroadw...@cticonnect.comOn Feb 20, 2024, at 1:06 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:I think I’ve got some of the Valmont ones on the shelf.  Like everything from SitePro1, they are huskier than they look in the catalog. From: AF  On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.comSent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 11:40 AMTo: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount +1 to both of those suggestions.I’ve seen plenty of universal mounts attached to a wooden pole (J-arms, J-pipes, or whatever you want to call them).Rohn WM4 is the name brand galvanized 4” wall mount, but there are a thousand copies out there.  Just watch out for zinc plating or other BS finishes.  I’m sure Channel Master is fine. One other thing, you’re not supposed to drill into the top surface of a wooden pole because rain will pool in the holes and speed up rotting.  You’re also not supposed to drill the sides within so many inches of the top (4” maybe? I don’t recall).  That’s why those pole-top mounts you see are straddling the top and have bolt holes farther down.  If you put a galvanized pipe into one of those wall mounts then you can have your mast above the top and also not be putting hardware at the top.  Electric/phone companies won’t like that solution because it uses more vertical real estate, but if it’s just a light pole then it ought not be a problem. If you do want something heavy duty that won’t break the bank then look at the Site Pro version of the WM4:https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list=1218https://valmont-sitepro1-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/spec-sheet/HDWM04%20(Assembly).pdfI don’t know the thickness of the steel stock, but the Channel Master one weighs 1 pound and the Site Pro one weighs 6.8 pounds, so I’m sure it’s sufficiently burly for most equipment. -Adam  From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken HohhofSent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 10:52 AMTo: af@af.afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount Or the ChannelMaster 4" offset wall mounts, we call them W brackets. Original Message From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: 2/20/2024 9:37:59 AMTo: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole MountJust use a Jpole?  Or an MTOW? On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:31?AM Matt  wrote:I need to mount a small steel pole to a wood light pole. The kits Isee online are like $300 range and way more robust than I need. Justmounting a small yagi a few feet above the top of the wood pole. Doesanyone know of anything?-- AF mailing listAF@af.afmug.comhttp://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com-- AF mailing listAF@af.afmug.comhttp://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com-- 
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Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread Ken Hohhof

I think I've got some of the Valmont ones on the shelf.  Like everything
from SitePro1, they are huskier than they look in the catalog.

From: AF  On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 11:40 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

+1 to both of those suggestions.

*   I've seen plenty of universal mounts attached to a wooden pole
(J-arms, J-pipes, or whatever you want to call them).
*   Rohn WM4 is the name brand galvanized 4" wall mount, but there are a
thousand copies out there.  Just watch out for zinc plating or other BS
finishes.  I'm sure Channel Master is fine.

One other thing, you're not supposed to drill into the top surface of a
wooden pole because rain will pool in the holes and speed up rotting.
You're also not supposed to drill the sides within so many inches of the top
(4" maybe? I don't recall).  That's why those pole-top mounts you see are
straddling the top and have bolt holes farther down.  If you put a
galvanized pipe into one of those wall mounts then you can have your mast
above the top and also not be putting hardware at the top.  Electric/phone
companies won't like that solution because it uses more vertical real
estate, but if it's just a light pole then it ought not be a problem.

If you do want something heavy duty that won't break the bank then look at
the Site Pro version of the WM4:

https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list
 =1218

https://valmont-sitepro1-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/spec-sheet/HDWM04%20(Assembly)
.pdf

I don't know the thickness of the steel stock, but the Channel Master one
weighs 1 pound and the Site Pro one weighs 6.8 pounds, so I'm sure it's
sufficiently burly for most equipment.

-Adam

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On
Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 10:52 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

Or the ChannelMaster 4" offset wall mounts, we call them W brackets.

 Original Message 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: 2/20/2024 9:37:59 AM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

Just use a Jpole?  Or an MTOW?

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:31?AM Matt mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I need to mount a small steel pole to a wood light pole. The kits I
see online are like $300 range and way more robust than I need. Just
mounting a small yagi a few feet above the top of the wood pole. Does
anyone know of anything?

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Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread dmmoffett

+1 to both of those suggestions.

*   I've seen plenty of universal mounts attached to a wooden pole
(J-arms, J-pipes, or whatever you want to call them).
*   Rohn WM4 is the name brand galvanized 4" wall mount, but there are a
thousand copies out there.  Just watch out for zinc plating or other BS
finishes.  I'm sure Channel Master is fine.

 

One other thing, you're not supposed to drill into the top surface of a
wooden pole because rain will pool in the holes and speed up rotting.
You're also not supposed to drill the sides within so many inches of the top
(4" maybe? I don't recall).  That's why those pole-top mounts you see are
straddling the top and have bolt holes farther down.  If you put a
galvanized pipe into one of those wall mounts then you can have your mast
above the top and also not be putting hardware at the top.  Electric/phone
companies won't like that solution because it uses more vertical real
estate, but if it's just a light pole then it ought not be a problem.

 

If you do want something heavy duty that won't break the bank then look at
the Site Pro version of the WM4:

https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list
 =1218

https://valmont-sitepro1-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/spec-sheet/HDWM04%20(Assembly)
.pdf

I don't know the thickness of the steel stock, but the Channel Master one
weighs 1 pound and the Site Pro one weighs 6.8 pounds, so I'm sure it's
sufficiently burly for most equipment.

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 10:52 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

 

Or the ChannelMaster 4" offset wall mounts, we call them W brackets.

 Original Message 
From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: 2/20/2024 9:37:59 AM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

Just use a Jpole?  Or an MTOW?

 

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:31?AM Matt mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I need to mount a small steel pole to a wood light pole. The kits I
see online are like $300 range and way more robust than I need. Just
mounting a small yagi a few feet above the top of the wood pole. Does
anyone know of anything?

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Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)

Or a chimney strap mount?

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024, 10:54 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Or the ChannelMaster 4" offset wall mounts, we call them W brackets.
>
>  Original Message 
> From: "Josh Luthman"
> Sent: 2/20/2024 9:37:59 AM
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount
>
> Just use a Jpole?  Or an MTOW?
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:31?AM Matt  wrote:
>
>> I need to mount a small steel pole to a wood light pole. The kits I
>> see online are like $300 range and way more robust than I need. Just
>> mounting a small yagi a few feet above the top of the wood pole. Does
>> anyone know of anything?
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Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread Ken Hohhof

Or the ChannelMaster 4" offset wall mounts, we call them W brackets. 
Original Message From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: 2/20/2024 9:37:59 AMTo: 
"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole MountJust use 
a Jpole?? Or an MTOW?On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:31?AM Matt 
 wrote:I need to mount a small steel pole to a 
wood light pole. The kits I
see online are like $300 range and way more robust than I need. Just
mounting a small yagi a few feet above the top of the wood pole. Does
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Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread Josh Luthman

Just use a Jpole?  Or an MTOW?

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 10:31 AM Matt  wrote:

> I need to mount a small steel pole to a wood light pole. The kits I
> see online are like $300 range and way more robust than I need. Just
> mounting a small yagi a few feet above the top of the wood pole. Does
> anyone know of anything?
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[AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread Matt

I need to mount a small steel pole to a wood light pole. The kits I
see online are like $300 range and way more robust than I need. Just
mounting a small yagi a few feet above the top of the wood pole. Does
anyone know of anything?

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