Re: [AFMUG] Won One
Nope. John across the street said the only thing that works is:On Apr 30, 2024, at 11:39 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:So do customers try to repair fiber cuts with wire nuts? From: AF On Behalf Of Jan-GAMsSent: Tuesday, April 30, 2024 1:30 PMTo: af@af.afmug.comSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Won One And along comes the 12 year-old neighbor kid to mow the lawn.On 4/29/24 15:24, Ken Hohhof wrote:The lay it in the crack guy was there. The kick dirt on it guy comes next week. Maybe Steve can be that guy. Original Message From: "Mike Hammett" Sent: 4/29/2024 5:14:21 PMTo: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Won Onep { margin: 0; } Sometimes it's not even that. I literally did see a drop that was just laid into a crack in the dirt. No effort was done to cover it.-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISPFrom: "Steve Jones" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 4:50:38 PMSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Won OneI want to do drops for metronet. just kick dirt on the fiber. On Mon, Apr 29, 2024, 1:29?PM Mike Hammett wrote:MetroNet does the same thing.-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISPFrom: "Bill Prince" To: af@af.afmug.comSent: Monday, April 29, 2024 1:09:01 PMSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Won OneFrom my limited experience with them (mostly through friends who have no other choice), their installations are "divide an conquer. They send out a different crew to do every micro-step of an installation. bpOn 4/29/2024 10:52 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:Had a 150 Mbps customer leave for Comcast/Xfinity 1.3 G $25/ month loss leader service. He lasted a couple months. He said their customer service is non existent. -- AF mailing listAF@af.afmug.comhttp://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing listAF@af.afmug.comhttp://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com-- AF mailing listAF@af.afmug.comhttp://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing listAF@af.afmug.comhttp://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com--
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Re: [AFMUG] It has begun
I vote for Lent. Anyone else? > On Mar 25, 2023, at 7:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > I wish AFMUG would stop going political. It really serves no purpose. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > From: "Adam Moffett" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" , "Darin Steffl" > > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 5:18:36 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun > > Why are we going down this road again? > > Get Outlook for iOS > From: AF on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF > > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 6:14:09 PM > To: Darin Steffl ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > Cc: Chuck McCown > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun > > Karl Marx > Lenin > Stalin > Putin > > Pretty sure those dudes were far worst than Trump > Even Castro > Kim Jong Un > > Seriously you thing the far left are better? > > From: Darin Steffl > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 3:54 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Cc: Chuck McCown > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun > > The extreme left is still better than the extreme right. > > I don't agree with either sides' extremes but if I had to pick one side, > everyone being taken care of, like socialism, I'd pick that over the extreme > right who wants to murder anyone different than them. Like far right pastors > and supporters who call for violence and murder of gay people, people of > color, and liberals. I can find thousands of posts and video from Republicans > calling for sick things but very few liberals saying the same things. > > I don't see far left people calling for violence and murder of people they > disagree with. > > So while there are two sides, one side is better than the other, as in less > violent and extreme. > > I'd take free college for all, free Healthcare, and more from the extreme > left over the extreme right who wants to ban books, kill people they disagree > with, try to overturn elections, cheat, lie, steal, etc. Again, the left is > the better choice when it comes to empathy and taking care of people. > > While an average republican might not agree with the far right, their silence > is the same as being complicit in their sick beliefs. > > At least an average Democrat calls out the far left people like I do. I don't > agree in wiping out all student loans, for example. And I've contacted > democrats I've voted for to voice my opinions. > > I don't see Republicans calling out far right politicians who are spewing > hate everyday. I wish they would but since they aren't, I assume they agree > with the hate speech and calls for violence. > > The right is far sicker than the left in every regard. Donald being elected > over Hillary will go down in history as one of the worst political events in > our country. We would be a much nicer and stable country if Hillary won. The > racists, bigots, and violent people would mostly be hiding still but Donald > gave them permission to act out their hate when he was elected. It's very sad. > > People who still support Donald are bullies and hate America at this point. > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Ouchie! > You called me the C word... > > > From: Robert > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 3:32 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun > > exactly this... What I have learned is there is such a thing as a good cult, > which is what I consider the Mormon church to be. They have a few extreme > points of view but on the whole they treat everyone ( now including other > races ) reasonably... And they care about kids and back it up. > > On 3/24/23 2:12 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I loved what the Gov of Utah told a bunch of school kids yesterday. > > “Republicans are wrong about Democrats and Democrats are wrong about > Republicans. Why? Here’s why — because, what we’re doing now is we’re only > listening to the most extreme voices in those parties. So Republicans are > only listening to the craziest Democrats and assuming that all Democrats are > like that. Democrats are only listening to the craziest Republicans and > assuming all Republicans are like that. When the difference between the > average Democrat and the average Republican, really isn’t that big.” > > From: Mike Hammett > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 12:37 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun > > There's no meaningful difference between authoritarian left and authoritarian > right, which are what catch the most attention. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > From: "Darin Steffl" mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 9:40:58 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun > > To be fair, anything left leaning is better
Re: [AFMUG] OT Beer in Texas
Thanks for the enlightenment guys! Desire to consume beer cold understood; Texas does have occasional warm days, doesn’t it? High temp here today 73º (F) Out of curiosity, I’ll begin keeping track here how many glasses arrive frozen, refrigerated, or room temp. Cheers! > On Jun 27, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > > Everybody likes their beer cold. Most places are too cheap to buy enough > freezer space to keep glasses called. If you pour cold draft beer in a warm > glass, it doesn't take long to heat up. As result most people just sell the > bottles. > >> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020, 3:17 PM Warren King wrote: >> @ Jaime, Lewis, & Tushar (and anyone else in TX): >> >> Back story - I spent nearly two weeks in the Austin/San Antonio area this >> past JAN/FEB pursuing your renowned live music; live music capital of the >> world indeed! >> >> Why is the beer available in restaurants and bars predominately, nearly >> exclusively in long neck bottles? Very little draft, very little in cans. >> >> Of course I’m from Oregon, and we have more draft, craft beers than TX has >> oil wells. >> >> Warren >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] OT Beer in Texas
@ Jaime, Lewis, & Tushar (and anyone else in TX): Back story - I spent nearly two weeks in the Austin/San Antonio area this past JAN/FEB pursuing your renowned live music; live music capital of the world indeed! Why is the beer available in restaurants and bars predominately, nearly exclusively in long neck bottles? Very little draft, very little in cans. Of course I’m from Oregon, and we have more draft, craft beers than TX has oil wells. Warren -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu
Thanks for a reasoned post that’s not politically motivated or from a “The sky has fallen”, hypochondriacal source! > On Mar 1, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > I am not a doctor. I don't even play one on TV or any podcasts or blogs. I do > pay attention to as much scientifically-based information I can find though. > > This is a pretty good synopsis on our current knowledge without any spin: > > https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you > > > > bp > > >> On 2/10/2020 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> Nazis are socialists. Bernie is a socialist. Therefore Bernie is a Nazi. >> So the Internet says. >> >> From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones >> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 10:48 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock) >> >> thats the secret, remember russia shafted the nazis last time... russia is >> in asia, so russians are asians. Taking them out of the running too Weve >> said too much >> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:45 AM Adam Moffett wrote: >> Nazis also hate Communists. It all fits. >> >> >> >> On 2/10/2020 11:41 AM, Steve Jones wrote: >> Im suprised that hasnt gotten traction. This is obviously genetically >> designed to target Asians. The proof is that 99% of infections are asians. >> Obviously this is the resurgence of the Nazi party trying to eliminate a >> majority of the population so they can initiate another run at global >> domination. My neighbors mom, Karen told me that her friend, carols husband >> Brad told her that he heard that this is what brexit was all about. Germany >> and Great Britian are forming an alliance now. Its all hush hush, but there >> is a shadow government of guess what... Nazis. >> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 10:33 AM Adam Moffett wrote: >> You mean.Nazi's created Coronavirus? >> >> On 2/10/2020 11:30 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >> > I'm waiting for Godwin... >> > >> > >> > bp >> > >> > >> > On 2/10/2020 8:26 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: >> >> The thing driving me nuts right now is that literally everything is a >> >> "conspiracy". >> >> >> >> Sometimes stuff happens, nobody did it on purpose, and nobody has the >> >> whole picture of what happened until more time passes. In the interim >> >> there's a lot of conflicting information going around. People latch >> >> onto early bits of information that turn out to be wrong and they >> >> won't let go of them. >> >> >> >> Coronavirus was created by the Chinese to distract press from Hong Kong >> >> >> >> Coronavirus was created by the USA to defeat China in a trade war >> >> >> >> Coronavirus was created by Budweiser to discredit Mexican Lager (I >> >> mean that one's obviously a joke.right?) >> >> >> >> Coronavirus will kill us all and we must all stock our survival bunkers. >> >> >> >> China is hiding all the information about Coronavirus. Really? Or >> >> maybe they just don't have a live real-time omniscient feed of all >> >> information so they're reporting what they think is true at the time >> >> it's said, or maybe rumors on Facebook aren't all true. >> >> >> >> See Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/10/2020 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >> >>> Starting a new thread to make this discussion off topic. >> >>> >> >>> I had my flu shot BTW. No fever here. >> >>> >> >>> Still zero reported deaths in the US, and only about a dozen actual >> >>> infections. I am still thinking this is not a big deal. Novel >> >>> Coronavirus appears to be more infectious than SARS, but not >> >>> particularly deadly. >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Induction coil voltage
Have you returned to Dearborn to see the various modifications to the “fishbowl”? I passed through it a few times while my daughters were students from 1997 to 2004. But, get this, I was back this past Spring for a 50th reunion sponsored by the engineering department. The EECS department headquarters is no longer in Dearborn, but Dearborn remains in use by the department. Did you have “Fields and Energy Conversion” with G. C. Alexander? “Transmission Lines” with Phillip Magnuson? “Circuits” with Don Amort? “Solid State” with Xxxx Looney? “Communication” with Leonard Weber? Cheers! Warren > On Nov 7, 2019, at 11:27 AM, wrote: > > In our motor lab someone asked the prof something similar like reversing > polarity to a DC motor that was fully wound up. > I don’t remember the exact question or exactly what he did but I do remember > the result. > > The motor tore itself from its moorings and launched across the room.. > > From: Ken Hohhof > Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 12:15 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Induction coil voltage > > I was an EE undergrad long enough ago that we had a required course called > “Electromechanical Devices”, and popularly referred to as “Motors”. It had a > lab, and none of the professors wanted to teach Motors Lab, so it usually > fell to the most junior prof, who didn’t want to be there. > > We had one whose standard answer to all questions was “Let’s find out.” > > Student: What happens if you open the field coil on a running DC motor? > Professor: Let’s find out. > > Student: What happens if you short the output of the generator in a > motor/generator pair? > Professor: Let’s find out. > > Who can guess what we found out? > Hints: a high pitched whirr, and a sudden thunk, were involved. > > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT 50 years ago
And EICO Sent from my iPad > On Jul 21, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > I did a few Heathkit projects. > > > > bp > > >> On 7/21/2019 12:22 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> http://www.radioshackcatalogs.com/html/1969/hr124.html >> It was still kicking around a few years ago. >> That was probably the best xmas gift my folks ever gave me. >> >> From: Ken Hohhof >> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 11:21 AM >> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 50 years ago >> >> I had a Knight 12-in-1 lab kit (page 65 in the catalog). >> https://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Catalogs/Allied-Catalogs/Allied-Catalog-1963.pdf >> >> I also remember taking tubes to the drug store with a tube tester. Often a >> TV had several tubes of the same type (6SN7 or 12AX7 or 12AU7) and you could >> just play musical chairs until the weak one ended up in a less critical >> location. That or you called the TV repairman to come out to your house. >> Once the transistor sets came out though, he would always say “the board” >> needed to be replaced, and at that point you might as well buy a new set. >> >> >> From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown >> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 11:12 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 50 years ago >> >> I spent hours at 2 am trying to improve the convergence on my parents color >> set as that is when the test pattern were on. >> >> I used to feed audio into the vertical deflection coils of old B TVs >> trying to make a rudimentary oscilloscope. Probably was all of 10 years old >> at the time. Kids used to have much more fun than they do now. I also had >> saltpeter... >> >> From: Bill Prince >> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 10:05 AM >> To: af@af.afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 50 years ago >> >> Black and white TVs just shot one beam; color would shoot 3 beams. The beams >> would just go straight out to the center of the screen without any steering. >> That's why one of the failure modes was just a glowing dot in the center of >> the screen. Steering was done with electromagnets in the form of a "yoke" >> wrapped around the neck of the CRT. One pair for horizontal scan, and one >> pair for vertical scan. Black and white was pretty simple, but color had all >> kinds of issues because the 3 beams could not be concentric, they were >> closely-spaced parallel beams. >> >> I forget what tool we used once to measure the radiation from the front of a >> CRT, but it wasn't much. In fact, it was almost undetectable once you got >> more than an inch away. >> >> >> >> bp >> >> >> On 7/21/2019 8:36 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> I got a thumb into the HV on a TV once. Felt like a dull twisted awl that >> was red hot being jabbed into my thumb. Not a feeling of shock at all. >> >> Yep, once I discharged my first CRT I got over the fear and then kinda >> looked forward to doing it. I don’t remember triplers, seems like there was >> an HV rectifier tube. Maybe it was just a chopper that fed the triplers or >> stick rectifier. I always presumed the tube did the job. Maybe the tube >> just made the horizontal scan? >> >> From: Ken Hohhof >> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2019 9:23 AM >> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 50 years ago >> >> I think it could be as high as 30 KV. Hard to believe we all had these >> things in our living rooms. Between the high voltage, the X-rays (stopped >> by thick leaded glass at the front), and a big glass tube with a vacuum >> inside and a fragile neck. >> >> I worked a couple years in the 70’s for Warwick Electronics, which made TVs >> for Sears and Kmart. Before you worked on a set, you had to discharge the >> CRT which was like a big capacitor and would hold the charge for awhile. >> The engineers and techs there would break off a length of solder, hold one >> end against the chassis, and hold the other end against a big flat bladed >> screwdriver which they would shove under the anode cap with a Zap sound. I >> was not brave enough to do it that way, I would at least use a wire with >> alligator clips at each end. >> >> BTW, the lingering charge problem was worse when they replaced went to >> triplers instead of stick rectifiers. A voltage tripler is basically a >> bunch of capacitors and diodes. >> >> We also had an electrostatic voltmeter to measure second anode voltage. It >> was on a rollaround cart and had a vacuum inside and the voltage was >> measured by the deflection of a needle based on the electrostatic repulsion >> of two plates. Another capacitor, and it could hold a charge for days. It >> was referred to as “the dog” because it was the size and shape of a medium >> size dog, had a snout where the high voltage probe went in, and it would >> bite you if you weren’t careful. >> >> We had a high voltage engineer who died of electrocution. Not at work, but >> at home, from his
Re: [AFMUG] OT Axel Grease
I've used Sta Lube boat trailer wheel bearing grease for assembly. On Mar 9, 2019, at 5:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > When I was a kid, my grandfather had a container of axel grease. Like grease > the hubs/axels of a horse drawn vehicle axel grease. It was sticky nasty > black stuff. The only use I knew about was he would grease the ball hitch on > his car prior to pulling his camp trailer. > > Tomorrow I start the reassembly of a big ol dump truck transmission. One of > the things I will need to do is to mate the input shaft to the main shaft and > the input shaft has a bunch of needle bearings inside. Always a touchy > thing. You grease up the input shaft, carefully place the bearings and hope > they do not fall out during assembly. > > I wish I had some of my grandfather’s axel grease. I am considering melting > some paraffin and adding some grease to make a sticky facsimile of what I > remember. > > Anyone know of a super thick and sticky grease? > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
