Re: [AFMUG] Fixing Cut/damaged Ethernet cable at a home.

[Nate Burke]

If you can get enough slack to put RJ45 ends on, I've had one of these 
sitting in a customers gutter for 5 years.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M4UETJC/

An Empty SM case with a coupler in it will work in a pinch too.



On 4/27/2021 9:40 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:


A few times I'd used the box from a dead surge suppressor and just 
stuffed a coupler inside it.


I wonder if McCown sells the plastic box separately.


On 4/27/2021 10:33 AM, Mike Davis wrote:


We get them for about $22 each, retail is $30.

Mike Davis

On 4/27/2021 1:36 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:


I've used those phone-couplers with the sticky silicone grease 
before, the job looks like crap, but they don't fail.  However this 
little tool you have hear looks real nice and clean.  How much do 
they cost?


On 4/26/21 2:10 PM, Mike Davis wrote:


We've used the waterproof RJ45 splice coupler from Platinum Tools 
with good success:


https://www.platinumtools.com/products/connectors/waterproof-rj45-splice-coupler-740c/

Mike Davis

On 4/26/2021 2:46 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
My installers have been using telephone butt splices for years and 
they are rearing their ugly head in terms of failing over time due 
to water and UV damage, Even though they tape the connections okay.
My question is this, if it isn't easy to outright replace the 
cable and a splice is faster/easier, is there a better product 
that can neatly splice 8 wires without looking like crap? And last 
a while?
We aren't too concerned about 1000 base connections from our 
antenna. 100 base is fine.


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Re: [AFMUG] Fixing Cut/damaged Ethernet cable at a home.

[Adam Moffett]

A few times I'd used the box from a dead surge suppressor and just 
stuffed a coupler inside it.


I wonder if McCown sells the plastic box separately.


On 4/27/2021 10:33 AM, Mike Davis wrote:


We get them for about $22 each, retail is $30.

Mike Davis

On 4/27/2021 1:36 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:


I've used those phone-couplers with the sticky silicone grease 
before, the job looks like crap, but they don't fail. However this 
little tool you have hear looks real nice and clean.  How much do 
they cost?


On 4/26/21 2:10 PM, Mike Davis wrote:


We've used the waterproof RJ45 splice coupler from Platinum Tools 
with good success:


https://www.platinumtools.com/products/connectors/waterproof-rj45-splice-coupler-740c/

Mike Davis

On 4/26/2021 2:46 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
My installers have been using telephone butt splices for years and 
they are rearing their ugly head in terms of failing over time due 
to water and UV damage, Even though they tape the connections okay.
My question is this, if it isn't easy to outright replace the cable 
and a splice is faster/easier, is there a better product that can 
neatly splice 8 wires without looking like crap? And last a while?
We aren't too concerned about 1000 base connections from our 
antenna. 100 base is fine.


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Re: [AFMUG] Fixing Cut/damaged Ethernet cable at a home.

[Mike Davis]

We get them for about $22 each, retail is $30.

Mike Davis

On 4/27/2021 1:36 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:


I've used those phone-couplers with the sticky silicone grease before, 
the job looks like crap, but they don't fail.  However this little 
tool you have hear looks real nice and clean.  How much do they cost?


On 4/26/21 2:10 PM, Mike Davis wrote:


We've used the waterproof RJ45 splice coupler from Platinum Tools 
with good success:


https://www.platinumtools.com/products/connectors/waterproof-rj45-splice-coupler-740c/

Mike Davis

On 4/26/2021 2:46 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
My installers have been using telephone butt splices for years and 
they are rearing their ugly head in terms of failing over time due 
to water and UV damage, Even though they tape the connections okay.
My question is this, if it isn't easy to outright replace the cable 
and a splice is faster/easier, is there a better product that can 
neatly splice 8 wires without looking like crap? And last a while?
We aren't too concerned about 1000 base connections from our 
antenna. 100 base is fine.


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Re: [AFMUG] Fixing Cut/damaged Ethernet cable at a home.

[Jan-GAMs]

I've used those phone-couplers with the sticky silicone grease before, 
the job looks like crap, but they don't fail.  However this little tool 
you have hear looks real nice and clean.  How much do they cost?


On 4/26/21 2:10 PM, Mike Davis wrote:


We've used the waterproof RJ45 splice coupler from Platinum Tools with 
good success:


https://www.platinumtools.com/products/connectors/waterproof-rj45-splice-coupler-740c/

Mike Davis

On 4/26/2021 2:46 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
My installers have been using telephone butt splices for years and 
they are rearing their ugly head in terms of failing over time due to 
water and UV damage, Even though they tape the connections okay.
My question is this, if it isn't easy to outright replace the cable 
and a splice is faster/easier, is there a better product that can 
neatly splice 8 wires without looking like crap? And last a while?
We aren't too concerned about 1000 base connections from our antenna. 
100 base is fine.


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Re: [AFMUG] Fixing Cut/damaged Ethernet cable at a home.

[Darin Steffl]

We have done splices and couplers wrapped in tape and mastic. Many fail
after a certain amount of time so our new policy is a cut cable means a new
cable run to somewhere so there's no buried splices. All splices must be
above ground so there's never 24/7 moisture.

Be sure to bill the customer for their mistake. Every time we've tried to
do a quick fix, it turns into the long, correct fix later down the road. So
we stop doing quick fixes and only do the right thing at the time of the
service call. It will cost less to do one visit instead of two and save you
time, and the customer frustration with two visits.

A typical cable cut when we have to replace cable and conduit is 2-3 hours
and we bill about $300-400 depending on materials. Make it costly so they
don't do it again.

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 4:16 PM TJ Trout  wrote:

> you could also keep on the truck 1" pvc with caps and some epoxy,
> encapsulate the splices in epoxy ?
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:12 PM Mike Davis <
> wispali...@allianceinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> We've used the waterproof RJ45 splice coupler from Platinum Tools with
>> good success:
>>
>>
>> https://www.platinumtools.com/products/connectors/waterproof-rj45-splice-coupler-740c/
>>
>> Mike Davis
>> On 4/26/2021 2:46 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>>
>> My installers have been using telephone butt splices for years and they
>> are rearing their ugly head in terms of failing over time due to water and
>> UV damage, Even though they tape the connections okay.
>> My question is this, if it isn't easy to outright replace the cable and a
>> splice is faster/easier, is there a better product that can neatly splice 8
>> wires without looking like crap? And last a while?
>> We aren't too concerned about 1000 base connections from our antenna. 100
>> base is fine.
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Fixing Cut/damaged Ethernet cable at a home.

[Mathew Howard]

That's the way I've generally done it. It seems simpler than the outdoor
couplers, and I think I'd trust it just as much, or more. And it can be
done just using stuff that you should have in the truck anyway.

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:57 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> you work for ATT?
>
> I just put two ends on and use a coupler, bond the drain. wrap of tape,
> wrap of mastic, wrap of tape, wrap of mastic, double wrap of tape. looks as
> good as anything else and can be submerged
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:47 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:
>
>> My installers have been using telephone butt splices for years and they
>> are rearing their ugly head in terms of failing over time due to water and
>> UV damage, Even though they tape the connections okay.
>> My question is this, if it isn't easy to outright replace the cable and a
>> splice is faster/easier, is there a better product that can neatly splice 8
>> wires without looking like crap? And last a while?
>> We aren't too concerned about 1000 base connections from our antenna. 100
>> base is fine.
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Re: [AFMUG] Fixing Cut/damaged Ethernet cable at a home.

[TJ Trout]

you could also keep on the truck 1" pvc with caps and some epoxy,
encapsulate the splices in epoxy ?

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:12 PM Mike Davis 
wrote:

> We've used the waterproof RJ45 splice coupler from Platinum Tools with
> good success:
>
>
> https://www.platinumtools.com/products/connectors/waterproof-rj45-splice-coupler-740c/
>
> Mike Davis
> On 4/26/2021 2:46 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
>
> My installers have been using telephone butt splices for years and they
> are rearing their ugly head in terms of failing over time due to water and
> UV damage, Even though they tape the connections okay.
> My question is this, if it isn't easy to outright replace the cable and a
> splice is faster/easier, is there a better product that can neatly splice 8
> wires without looking like crap? And last a while?
> We aren't too concerned about 1000 base connections from our antenna. 100
> base is fine.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Fixing Cut/damaged Ethernet cable at a home.

[Mike Davis]

We've used the waterproof RJ45 splice coupler from Platinum Tools with 
good success:


https://www.platinumtools.com/products/connectors/waterproof-rj45-splice-coupler-740c/

Mike Davis

On 4/26/2021 2:46 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
My installers have been using telephone butt splices for years and 
they are rearing their ugly head in terms of failing over time due to 
water and UV damage, Even though they tape the connections okay.
My question is this, if it isn't easy to outright replace the cable 
and a splice is faster/easier, is there a better product that can 
neatly splice 8 wires without looking like crap? And last a while?
We aren't too concerned about 1000 base connections from our antenna. 
100 base is fine.


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Re: [AFMUG] Fixing Cut/damaged Ethernet cable at a home.

[Steve Jones]

you work for ATT?

I just put two ends on and use a coupler, bond the drain. wrap of tape,
wrap of mastic, wrap of tape, wrap of mastic, double wrap of tape. looks as
good as anything else and can be submerged

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:47 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> My installers have been using telephone butt splices for years and they
> are rearing their ugly head in terms of failing over time due to water and
> UV damage, Even though they tape the connections okay.
> My question is this, if it isn't easy to outright replace the cable and a
> splice is faster/easier, is there a better product that can neatly splice 8
> wires without looking like crap? And last a while?
> We aren't too concerned about 1000 base connections from our antenna. 100
> base is fine.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Fixing Cut/damaged Ethernet cable at a home.

[Adam Moffett]

I would also wrap the coupler in tape by the way.  I have no faith in 
O-rings.


On 4/26/2021 2:50 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:


https://www.showmecables.com/cat5e-cat6-waterproof-rj45-shielded-coupler?gclid=Cj0KCQjwyZmEBhCpARIsALIzmnIujm6Xd3on-bNEWhEAenZSKSr0MrU72LMPLOjQjXPQg4dGNe2c-U4aAulcEALw_wcB

That type.  Or a surge suppressor.

But honestly, 98% of the time I'd just as soon run a new cable.


On 4/26/2021 2:46 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
My installers have been using telephone butt splices for years and 
they are rearing their ugly head in terms of failing over time due to 
water and UV damage, Even though they tape the connections okay.
My question is this, if it isn't easy to outright replace the cable 
and a splice is faster/easier, is there a better product that can 
neatly splice 8 wires without looking like crap? And last a while?
We aren't too concerned about 1000 base connections from our antenna. 
100 base is fine.


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Re: [AFMUG] Fixing Cut/damaged Ethernet cable at a home.

[TJ Trout]

Outdoor shielded ethernet couplers

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021, 11:47 AM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> My installers have been using telephone butt splices for years and they
> are rearing their ugly head in terms of failing over time due to water and
> UV damage, Even though they tape the connections okay.
> My question is this, if it isn't easy to outright replace the cable and a
> splice is faster/easier, is there a better product that can neatly splice 8
> wires without looking like crap? And last a while?
> We aren't too concerned about 1000 base connections from our antenna. 100
> base is fine.
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Fixing Cut/damaged Ethernet cable at a home.

[Adam Moffett]

https://www.showmecables.com/cat5e-cat6-waterproof-rj45-shielded-coupler?gclid=Cj0KCQjwyZmEBhCpARIsALIzmnIujm6Xd3on-bNEWhEAenZSKSr0MrU72LMPLOjQjXPQg4dGNe2c-U4aAulcEALw_wcB

That type.  Or a surge suppressor.

But honestly, 98% of the time I'd just as soon run a new cable.


On 4/26/2021 2:46 PM, Sam Lambie wrote:
My installers have been using telephone butt splices for years and 
they are rearing their ugly head in terms of failing over time due to 
water and UV damage, Even though they tape the connections okay.
My question is this, if it isn't easy to outright replace the cable 
and a splice is faster/easier, is there a better product that can 
neatly splice 8 wires without looking like crap? And last a while?
We aren't too concerned about 1000 base connections from our antenna. 
100 base is fine.


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[AFMUG] Fixing Cut/damaged Ethernet cable at a home.

[Sam Lambie]

My installers have been using telephone butt splices for years and they are
rearing their ugly head in terms of failing over time due to water and UV
damage, Even though they tape the connections okay.
My question is this, if it isn't easy to outright replace the cable and a
splice is faster/easier, is there a better product that can neatly splice 8
wires without looking like crap? And last a while?
We aren't too concerned about 1000 base connections from our antenna. 100
base is fine.

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