Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Real men wear pink

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022, 2:37 PM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> Make it pink and own the brand.  Either that or that safety green/yellow
> color I'm sure you are seeing all over the ski slopes these days.  That
> might be expensive paint but it would make a statement.
>
> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 11:18 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It is a
>> self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer
>> attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their product but
>> they both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our attach method
>> between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is
>> almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands.  Similar
>> to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for
>> the micro trenching world.
>>
>> I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I will
>> avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I could
>> paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment.
>>
>> I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that
>> everyone else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD
>> green.  Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.
>> Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota?  Years
>> ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff.
>>
>> It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost impossible
>> to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the mess.
>> Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me
>> at all.
>>
>> What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck McCown
>> McCown Technology Corporation
>> 8401 N Commerce Dr
>> Lake Point, Utah 84074
>> 801-250-9503
>> 435-830-4306 cell
>> www.mccowntech.com
>> www.microtrench-blades.com
>> www.terabitnetworks.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-23 Thread Carl Peterson
Make it pink and own the brand.  Either that or that safety green/yellow
color I'm sure you are seeing all over the ski slopes these days.  That
might be expensive paint but it would make a statement.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 11:18 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
wrote:

> I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It is a
> self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer
> attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their product but
> they both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our attach method
> between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is
> almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands.  Similar
> to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for
> the micro trenching world.
>
> I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I will
> avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I could
> paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment.
>
> I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone
> else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD green.  Not
> sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.  Thinking Kubota
> orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was
> truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff.
>
> It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost impossible
> to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the mess.
> Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me
> at all.
>
> What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?
>
>
>
> Chuck McCown
> McCown Technology Corporation
> 8401 N Commerce Dr
> Lake Point, Utah 84074
> 801-250-9503
> 435-830-4306 cell
> www.mccowntech.com
> www.microtrench-blades.com
> www.terabitnetworks.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-21 Thread Bill Prince
Why not use a color that everyone remembers fondly like baby-poo
greenish-yellow?
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On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 8:46 PM Daniel White  wrote:

> I saw this light blue on a new Ford Bronco today that looked pretty
> sharp.  Looks like it is called "Area 51"
>
> [image: Ford Bronco Truck In The Works, Could Arrive As Early As 2022 |
> Carscoops]
>
>
>
> [image: photograph]
> Daniel White
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> Chuck McCown via AF 
> February 21, 2022 at 11:48
> Does not inflame the passion to buy, to possess.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, February 21, 2022 11:28 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
>
> Smoke grey
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> Jaime Solorza 
> February 21, 2022 at 11:28
> Smoke grey
>
>
>
> Chuck McCown via AF 
> February 21, 2022 at 09:27
> Our local powder coating shop changed hands and doubled pricing.  But that
> is the best option.
>
> -Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:10 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
>
> Robin's egg blue.  Just enough color to show where it still needs
> cleaning after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an
> issue with looks.  And why bother with paint crews?  Send the parts out
> prior to assembly for powder coat.  Durable goods should get durable
> coatings, paint just scratches and looks like crap, powder coating takes
> a beating keeps on looking nice!
>
>
>
> Jan-GAMs 
> February 20, 2022 at 22:10
> Robin's egg blue.  Just enough color to show where it still needs cleaning
> after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an issue with
> looks.  And why bother with paint crews?  Send the parts out prior to
> assembly for powder coat.  Durable goods should get durable coatings, paint
> just scratches and looks like crap, powder coating takes a beating keeps on
> looking nice!
>
>
>
> Robert Andrews 
> February 20, 2022 at 14:31
> I love my country and hate that being patriotic has become a label of
> sides, that said, I like red white and blue and think that the pastel
> versions of those colors could work...
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-21 Thread Daniel White
I saw this light blue on a new Ford Bronco today that looked pretty
sharp.  Looks like it is called "Area 51"

Ford Bronco Truck In The Works, Could Arrive As Early As 2022 | Carscoops



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> Chuck McCown via AF <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> February 21, 2022 at 11:48
> Does not inflame the passion to buy, to possess. 
>  
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Monday, February 21, 2022 11:28 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
>  
> Smoke grey
>  
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> Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> February 21, 2022 at 11:28
> Smoke grey
>
>
>
> Chuck McCown via AF <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> February 21, 2022 at 09:27
> Our local powder coating shop changed hands and doubled pricing.  But
> that is the best option.
>
> -----Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:10 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
>
> Robin's egg blue.  Just enough color to show where it still needs
> cleaning after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an
> issue with looks.  And why bother with paint crews?  Send the parts out
> prior to assembly for powder coat.  Durable goods should get durable
> coatings, paint just scratches and looks like crap, powder coating takes
> a beating keeps on looking nice!
>
>
>
> Jan-GAMs <mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net>
> February 20, 2022 at 22:10
> Robin's egg blue.  Just enough color to show where it still needs
> cleaning after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an
> issue with looks.  And why bother with paint crews?  Send the parts
> out prior to assembly for powder coat.  Durable goods should get
> durable coatings, paint just scratches and looks like crap, powder
> coating takes a beating keeps on looking nice!
>
>
>
> Robert Andrews <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>
> February 20, 2022 at 14:31
> I love my country and hate that being patriotic has become a label of
> sides, that said, I like red white and blue and think that the pastel
> versions of those colors could work...
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-21 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Does not inflame the passion to buy, to possess.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 11:28 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

Smoke grey

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 9:28 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

  Our local powder coating shop changed hands and doubled pricing.  But that 
  is the best option.

  -Original Message- 
  From: Jan-GAMs
  Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:10 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

  Robin's egg blue.  Just enough color to show where it still needs
  cleaning after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an
  issue with looks.  And why bother with paint crews?  Send the parts out
  prior to assembly for powder coat.  Durable goods should get durable
  coatings, paint just scratches and looks like crap, powder coating takes
  a beating keeps on looking nice!

  On 2/20/22 13:31, Robert Andrews wrote:
  > I love my country and hate that being patriotic has become a label of 
  > sides, that said, I like red white and blue and think that the pastel 
  > versions of those colors could work...
  >
  > On 2/20/22 11:07, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
  >> I like money more than political ideologies.  I am a greedy, naked 
  >> capitalist, opportunist.
  >> I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But 
  >> some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid.  Just 
  >> like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal,  with a huge US flag or 
  >> flying the stars and bars.  I immediately categorize them and start to 
  >> plan my escape in the event of road rage...
  >> While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle 
  >> on many issues.  Perhaps my age has something to do with it.  I see more 
  >> shades of gray now.  When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher.
  >> From: Robert
  >> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM
  >> To: af@af.afmug.com
  >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
  >> Red white and blue?
  >> On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
  >> I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a 
  >> self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM 
  >> mixer attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their 
  >> product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our 
  >> attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the 
  >> machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between 
  >> brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high 
  >> demand machine for the micro trenching world.
  >> I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I will 
  >> avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I could 
  >> paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment.
  >> I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that 
  >> everyone else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD 
  >> green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. 
  >> Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota?  Years 
  >> ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff.
  >> It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost impossible 
  >> to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the mess. 
  >> Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me 
  >> at all.
  >> What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?
  >> Chuck McCown
  >> McCown Technology Corporation
  >> 8401 N Commerce Dr
  >> Lake Point, Utah 84074
  >> 801-250-9503
  >> 435-830-4306 cell
  >> www.mccowntech.com
  >> www.microtrench-blades.com
  >> www.terabitnetworks.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-21 Thread Jaime Solorza
Smoke grey

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 9:28 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Our local powder coating shop changed hands and doubled pricing.  But that
> is the best option.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jan-GAMs
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:10 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
>
> Robin's egg blue.  Just enough color to show where it still needs
> cleaning after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an
> issue with looks.  And why bother with paint crews?  Send the parts out
> prior to assembly for powder coat.  Durable goods should get durable
> coatings, paint just scratches and looks like crap, powder coating takes
> a beating keeps on looking nice!
>
> On 2/20/22 13:31, Robert Andrews wrote:
> > I love my country and hate that being patriotic has become a label of
> > sides, that said, I like red white and blue and think that the pastel
> > versions of those colors could work...
> >
> > On 2/20/22 11:07, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> >> I like money more than political ideologies.  I am a greedy, naked
> >> capitalist, opportunist.
> >> I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But
> >> some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid.  Just
> >> like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal,  with a huge US flag
> or
> >> flying the stars and bars.  I immediately categorize them and start to
> >> plan my escape in the event of road rage...
> >> While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the
> middle
> >> on many issues.  Perhaps my age has something to do with it.  I see
> more
> >> shades of gray now.  When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher.
> >> From: Robert
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM
> >> To: af@af.afmug.com
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
> >> Red white and blue?
> >> On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> >> I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a
> >> self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM
> >> mixer attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their
> >> product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our
> >> attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of
> the
> >> machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between
> >> brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high
> >> demand machine for the micro trenching world.
> >> I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I
> will
> >> avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I
> could
> >> paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment.
> >> I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that
> >> everyone else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD
> >> green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.
> >> Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota?
> Years
> >> ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff.
> >> It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost
> impossible
> >> to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the
> mess.
> >> Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite
> me
> >> at all.
> >> What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?
> >> Chuck McCown
> >> McCown Technology Corporation
> >> 8401 N Commerce Dr
> >> Lake Point, Utah 84074
> >> 801-250-9503
> >> 435-830-4306 cell
> >> www.mccowntech.com
> >> www.microtrench-blades.com
> >> www.terabitnetworks.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-21 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Our local powder coating shop changed hands and doubled pricing.  But that 
is the best option.


-Original Message- 
From: Jan-GAMs

Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:10 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

Robin's egg blue.  Just enough color to show where it still needs
cleaning after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an
issue with looks.  And why bother with paint crews?  Send the parts out
prior to assembly for powder coat.  Durable goods should get durable
coatings, paint just scratches and looks like crap, powder coating takes
a beating keeps on looking nice!

On 2/20/22 13:31, Robert Andrews wrote:
I love my country and hate that being patriotic has become a label of 
sides, that said, I like red white and blue and think that the pastel 
versions of those colors could work...


On 2/20/22 11:07, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I like money more than political ideologies.  I am a greedy, naked 
capitalist, opportunist.
I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But 
some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid.  Just 
like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal,  with a huge US flag or 
flying the stars and bars.  I immediately categorize them and start to 
plan my escape in the event of road rage...
While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle 
on many issues.  Perhaps my age has something to do with it.  I see more 
shades of gray now.  When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher.

From: Robert
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Red white and blue?
On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a 
self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM 
mixer attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their 
product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our 
attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the 
machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between 
brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high 
demand machine for the micro trenching world.
I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I will 
avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I could 
paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment.
I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that 
everyone else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD 
green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. 
Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota?  Years 
ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff.
It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost impossible 
to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the mess. 
Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me 
at all.

What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?
Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench-blades.com
www.terabitnetworks.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Jan-GAMs
Robin's egg blue.  Just enough color to show where it still needs 
cleaning after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an 
issue with looks.  And why bother with paint crews?  Send the parts out 
prior to assembly for powder coat.  Durable goods should get durable 
coatings, paint just scratches and looks like crap, powder coating takes 
a beating keeps on looking nice!


On 2/20/22 13:31, Robert Andrews wrote:
I love my country and hate that being patriotic has become a label of 
sides, that said, I like red white and blue and think that the pastel 
versions of those colors could work...


On 2/20/22 11:07, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I like money more than political ideologies.  I am a greedy, naked 
capitalist, opportunist.
I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. 
But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid.  
Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal,  with a huge 
US flag or flying the stars and bars.  I immediately categorize them 
and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage...
While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the 
middle on many issues.  Perhaps my age has something to do with it.  
I see more shades of gray now.  When I was young, I was almost a John 
Bircher.

From: Robert
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Red white and blue?
On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is 
a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 
1CM mixer attachment.  I have some significant improvements over 
their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit 
similar.  Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment 
and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow 
interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid steer 
attachment.    This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching 
world.
I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I 
will avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision 
says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD 
equipment.
I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that 
everyone else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not 
JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good 
stuff.  Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior 
Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make 
good stuff.
It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost 
impossible to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will 
emphasize the mess.  Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that 
but that does not excite me at all.

What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?
Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench-blades.com
www.terabitnetworks.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Jan-GAMs

Can't unsee that one

On 2/20/22 11:59, Steve Jones wrote:
I cringe when I see implements painted red white and blue, it 
inevitably means theres an oversized diesel with a steel nutsack 
hanging off the hitch somewhere nearby, and probably a low production 
crew hungover operating it.


Paint it rust color so it always looks new

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF  
wrote:


I like money more than political ideologies.  I am a greedy, naked
capitalist, opportunist.
I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and
blue.  But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am
afraid.  Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, 
with a huge US flag or flying the stars and bars.  I immediately
categorize them and start to plan my escape in the event of road
rage...
While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the
middle on many issues.  Perhaps my age has something to do with
it.  I see more shades of gray now.  When I was young, I was
almost a John Bircher.
From: Robert
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Red white and blue?
On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It
is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300
with a 1CM mixer attachment.  I have some significant improvements
over their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit
similar.  Our attach method between the grout mixing tub
attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW
to allow interchangeability between brands.  Similar to a
universal skid steer attachment.    This is a high demand machine
for the micro trenching world.
I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. 
I will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision
says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of
JD equipment.
I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that
everyone else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably
not JD green.  Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made
good stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate
inferior Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a
days they make good stuff.
It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost
impossible to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will
emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that
but that does not excite me at all.
What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good
value”?
Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell
www.mccowntech.com <http://www.mccowntech.com>
www.microtrench-blades.com <http://www.microtrench-blades.com>
www.terabitnetworks.com <http://www.terabitnetworks.com>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Tnx

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 20, 2022, at 5:03 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I agree with this 100%.
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, 2:49 PM can...@believewireless.net 
>>  wrote:
>> If I were you, I would choose brand over what other people think of a color. 
>> Most marketing people would say it is all
>> about the story. Your story is the family history of baby blue. Explain the 
>> story behind the color and market the heck
>> out of it. I buy "Chuck" products because of who you are to the industry and 
>> what you have done to more the industry
>> forward. Sell the family values of baby blue and people will latch onto it.
>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 4:44 PM Robert Andrews  
>>> wrote:
>>> This is actually close to what I find works well in dirty environments 
>>> for my cars.  IF it is available, I like gold shades for cars, as they 
>>> don't get as hot and also don't show dirt.   As the color fades it still 
>>> looks good.
>>> 
>>> On 2/20/22 11:59, Steve Jones wrote:
>>> > I cringe when I see implements painted red white and blue, it inevitably 
>>> > means theres an oversized diesel with a steel nutsack hanging off the 
>>> > hitch somewhere nearby, and probably a low production crew hungover 
>>> > operating it.
>>> > 
>>> > Paint it rust color so it always looks new
>>> > 
>>> > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF >> > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > I like money more than political ideologies.  I am a greedy, naked
>>> > capitalist, opportunist.
>>> > I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue.
>>> > But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. 
>>> > Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal,  with a huge
>>> > US flag or flying the stars and bars.  I immediately categorize them
>>> > and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage...
>>> > While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the
>>> > middle on many issues.  Perhaps my age has something to do with it. 
>>> > I see more shades of gray now.  When I was young, I was almost a
>>> > John Bircher.
>>> > From: Robert
>>> > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM
>>> > To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
>>> > Red white and blue?
>>> > On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>> > I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It
>>> > is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with
>>> > a 1CM mixer attachment.  I have some significant improvements over
>>> > their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit
>>> > similar.  Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment
>>> > and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow
>>> > interchangeability between brands.  Similar to a universal skid
>>> > steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro
>>> > trenching world.
>>> > I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I
>>> > will avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision
>>> > says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD
>>> > equipment.
>>> > I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that
>>> > everyone else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not
>>> > JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good
>>> > stuff.  Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior
>>> > Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they
>>> > make good stuff.
>>> > It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost
>>> > impossible to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will
>>> > emphasize the mess.  Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that
>>> > but that does not excite me at all.
>>> > What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good 
>>> > value”?
>>> > Chuck McCown
>>> > McCown Technology Corpo

Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I agree with this 100%.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, 2:49 PM can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> If I were you, I would choose brand over what other people think of a
> color. Most marketing people would say it is all
> about the story. Your story is the family history of baby blue. Explain
> the story behind the color and market the heck
> out of it. I buy "Chuck" products because of who you are to the industry
> and what you have done to more the industry
> forward. Sell the family values of baby blue and people will latch onto it.
>
> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 4:44 PM Robert Andrews 
> wrote:
>
>> This is actually close to what I find works well in dirty environments
>> for my cars.  IF it is available, I like gold shades for cars, as they
>> don't get as hot and also don't show dirt.   As the color fades it still
>> looks good.
>>
>> On 2/20/22 11:59, Steve Jones wrote:
>> > I cringe when I see implements painted red white and blue, it
>> inevitably
>> > means theres an oversized diesel with a steel nutsack hanging off the
>> > hitch somewhere nearby, and probably a low production crew hungover
>> > operating it.
>> >
>> > Paint it rust color so it always looks new
>> >
>> > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF > > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I like money more than political ideologies.  I am a greedy, naked
>> > capitalist, opportunist.
>> > I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue.
>> > But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid.
>> > Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal,  with a huge
>> > US flag or flying the stars and bars.  I immediately categorize them
>> > and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage...
>> > While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the
>> > middle on many issues.  Perhaps my age has something to do with it.
>> > I see more shades of gray now.  When I was young, I was almost a
>> > John Bircher.
>> > From: Robert
>> > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM
>> > To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
>> > Red white and blue?
>> > On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>> > I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It
>> > is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with
>> > a 1CM mixer attachment.  I have some significant improvements over
>> > their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit
>> > similar.  Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment
>> > and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow
>> > interchangeability between brands.  Similar to a universal skid
>> > steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro
>> > trenching world.
>> > I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I
>> > will avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision
>> > says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD
>> > equipment.
>> > I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that
>> > everyone else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not
>> > JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good
>> > stuff.  Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior
>> > Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they
>> > make good stuff.
>> > It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost
>> > impossible to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will
>> > emphasize the mess.  Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that
>> > but that does not excite me at all.
>> > What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good
>> value”?
>> > Chuck McCown
>> > McCown Technology Corporation
>> > 8401 N Commerce Dr
>> > Lake Point, Utah 84074
>> > 801-250-9503
>> > 435-830-4306 cell
>> > www.mccowntech.com <http://www.mccowntech.com>
>> > www.microtrench-blades.com <http://www.microtrench-blades.com>
>> > www.terabitnetworks.com <http://www.terabitnetworks.com>
>> > 

Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread can...@believewireless.net
If I were you, I would choose brand over what other people think of a
color. Most marketing people would say it is all
about the story. Your story is the family history of baby blue. Explain the
story behind the color and market the heck
out of it. I buy "Chuck" products because of who you are to the industry
and what you have done to more the industry
forward. Sell the family values of baby blue and people will latch onto it.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 4:44 PM Robert Andrews 
wrote:

> This is actually close to what I find works well in dirty environments
> for my cars.  IF it is available, I like gold shades for cars, as they
> don't get as hot and also don't show dirt.   As the color fades it still
> looks good.
>
> On 2/20/22 11:59, Steve Jones wrote:
> > I cringe when I see implements painted red white and blue, it inevitably
> > means theres an oversized diesel with a steel nutsack hanging off the
> > hitch somewhere nearby, and probably a low production crew hungover
> > operating it.
> >
> > Paint it rust color so it always looks new
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF  > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I like money more than political ideologies.  I am a greedy, naked
> > capitalist, opportunist.
> > I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue.
> > But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid.
> > Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal,  with a huge
> > US flag or flying the stars and bars.  I immediately categorize them
> > and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage...
> > While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the
> > middle on many issues.  Perhaps my age has something to do with it.
> > I see more shades of gray now.  When I was young, I was almost a
> >     John Bircher.
> > From: Robert
> > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
> > Red white and blue?
> > On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
> > I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It
> > is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with
> > a 1CM mixer attachment.  I have some significant improvements over
> > their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit
> > similar.  Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment
> > and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow
> > interchangeability between brands.  Similar to a universal skid
> > steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro
> > trenching world.
> > I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I
> > will avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision
> > says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD
> > equipment.
> > I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that
> > everyone else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not
> > JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good
> > stuff.  Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior
> > Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they
> > make good stuff.
> > It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost
> > impossible to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will
> > emphasize the mess.  Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that
> > but that does not excite me at all.
> > What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good
> value”?
> > Chuck McCown
> > McCown Technology Corporation
> > 8401 N Commerce Dr
> > Lake Point, Utah 84074
> > 801-250-9503
> > 435-830-4306 cell
> > www.mccowntech.com <http://www.mccowntech.com>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Robert Andrews
This is actually close to what I find works well in dirty environments 
for my cars.  IF it is available, I like gold shades for cars, as they 
don't get as hot and also don't show dirt.   As the color fades it still 
looks good.


On 2/20/22 11:59, Steve Jones wrote:
I cringe when I see implements painted red white and blue, it inevitably 
means theres an oversized diesel with a steel nutsack hanging off the 
hitch somewhere nearby, and probably a low production crew hungover 
operating it.


Paint it rust color so it always looks new

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:


I like money more than political ideologies.  I am a greedy, naked
capitalist, opportunist.
I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue.
But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. 
Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal,  with a huge

US flag or flying the stars and bars.  I immediately categorize them
and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage...
While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the
middle on many issues.  Perhaps my age has something to do with it. 
I see more shades of gray now.  When I was young, I was almost a

John Bircher.
From: Robert
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Red white and blue?
On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It
is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with
a 1CM mixer attachment.  I have some significant improvements over
their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit
similar.  Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment
and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow
interchangeability between brands.  Similar to a universal skid
steer attachment.    This is a high demand machine for the micro
trenching world.
I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I
will avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision
says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD
equipment.
I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that
everyone else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not
JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good
stuff.  Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior
Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they
make good stuff.
It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost
impossible to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will
emphasize the mess.  Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that
but that does not excite me at all.
What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?
Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell
www.mccowntech.com <http://www.mccowntech.com>
www.microtrench-blades.com <http://www.microtrench-blades.com>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Robert Andrews
I love my country and hate that being patriotic has become a label of 
sides, that said, I like red white and blue and think that the pastel 
versions of those colors could work...


On 2/20/22 11:07, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I like money more than political ideologies.  I am a greedy, naked 
capitalist, opportunist.
I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But 
some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid.  Just 
like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal,  with a huge US flag 
or flying the stars and bars.  I immediately categorize them and start 
to plan my escape in the event of road rage...
While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle 
on many issues.  Perhaps my age has something to do with it.  I see more 
shades of gray now.  When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher.

From: Robert
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Red white and blue?
On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It is a 
self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM 
mixer attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their 
product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our 
attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of 
the machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability 
between brands.  Similar to a universal skid steer attachment.    This 
is a high demand machine for the micro trenching world.
I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I 
will avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I 
could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment.
I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that 
everyone else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD 
green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.  
Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota?  
Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff.
It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost 
impossible to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will 
emphasize the mess.  Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but 
that does not excite me at all.

What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?
Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench-blades.com
www.terabitnetworks.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
So,  my first work was doing various industrial programming jobs for the
local sawmill.

They had two company trucks which tended to get beat up/ scratched just
because they spent a fair bit of time in the woods in areas without well
cleared roads.  As a result they ended up repainted fairly often just to
prevent rust and the like.

The first repaint was always into a color that exactly matched the color of
the local dirt that they'd typically pick up in use.   You could never tell
they were dirty except the one had a pinstripe which would dissappear when
covered with muck.

So maybe "dirt'.


On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, 10:17 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It is a
> self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer
> attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their product but
> they both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our attach method
> between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is
> almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands.  Similar
> to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for
> the micro trenching world.
>
> I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I will
> avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I could
> paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment.
>
> I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone
> else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD green.  Not
> sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.  Thinking Kubota
> orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was
> truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff.
>
> It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost impossible
> to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the mess.
> Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me
> at all.
>
> What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?
>
>
>
> Chuck McCown
> McCown Technology Corporation
> 8401 N Commerce Dr
> Lake Point, Utah 84074
> 801-250-9503
> 435-830-4306 cell
> www.mccowntech.com
> www.microtrench-blades.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I do like the nutsack idea.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 20, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Steve Jones  wrote:
> 
> 
> I cringe when I see implements painted red white and blue, it inevitably 
> means theres an oversized diesel with a steel nutsack hanging off the hitch 
> somewhere nearby, and probably a low production crew hungover operating it.
> 
> Paint it rust color so it always looks new
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>> I like money more than political ideologies.  I am a greedy, naked 
>> capitalist, opportunist.
>>  
>> I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue.  But 
>> some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid.  Just like I 
>> judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal,  with a huge US flag or flying 
>> the stars and bars.  I immediately categorize them and start to plan my 
>> escape in the event of road rage...
>>  
>> While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle on 
>> many issues.  Perhaps my age has something to do with it.  I see more shades 
>> of gray now.  When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher. 
>>  
>> From: Robert
>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
>>  
>> Red white and blue?
>>  
>>  
>> On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>  
>> I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It is a self 
>> propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer 
>> attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their product but 
>> they both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our attach method 
>> between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is 
>> almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands.  Similar 
>> to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for 
>> the micro trenching world. 
>>  
>> I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I will 
>> avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I could 
>> paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. 
>>  
>> I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone 
>> else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD green.  Not 
>> sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.  Thinking Kubota 
>> orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was 
>> truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. 
>>  
>> It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost impossible to 
>> keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the mess.  
>> Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at 
>> all. 
>>  
>> What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Chuck McCown
>> McCown Technology Corporation
>> 8401 N Commerce Dr
>> Lake Point, Utah 84074
>> 801-250-9503
>> 435-830-4306 cell
>> www.mccowntech.com
>> www.microtrench-blades.com
>> www.terabitnetworks.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Steve Jones
I cringe when I see implements painted red white and blue, it inevitably
means theres an oversized diesel with a steel nutsack hanging off the hitch
somewhere nearby, and probably a low production crew hungover operating it.

Paint it rust color so it always looks new

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I like money more than political ideologies.  I am a greedy, naked
> capitalist, opportunist.
>
> I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue.  But
> some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid.  Just like
> I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal,  with a huge US flag or flying
> the stars and bars.  I immediately categorize them and start to plan my
> escape in the event of road rage...
>
> While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle
> on many issues.  Perhaps my age has something to do with it.  I see more
> shades of gray now.  When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher.
>
> From: Robert
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
>
> Red white and blue?
>
>
> On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It is a
> self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer
> attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their product but
> they both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our attach method
> between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is
> almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands.  Similar
> to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for
> the micro trenching world.
>
> I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I will
> avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I could
> paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment.
>
> I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone
> else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD green.  Not
> sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.  Thinking Kubota
> orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was
> truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff.
>
> It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost impossible
> to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the mess.
> Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me
> at all.
>
> What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?
>
>
>
> Chuck McCown
> McCown Technology Corporation
> 8401 N Commerce Dr
> Lake Point, Utah 84074
> 801-250-9503
> 435-830-4306 cell
> www.mccowntech.com
> www.microtrench-blades.com
> www.terabitnetworks.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
All my dad’s farm trucks were baby blue.  Kinda a family brand.  My youngest 
son who is taking over the manufacturing operation is suggesting that.  I have 
never seen a baby blue piece of construction equipment.  I wonder if it 
connotes softness, weakness?  It would not show the spatter very much.  I guess 
we could do two tone with more of a royal blue like my logo.  

From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 12:07 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

I like money more than political ideologies.  I am a greedy, naked capitalist, 
opportunist.

I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue.  But some 
would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid.  Just like I judge a 
large pick up truck, rollin’ coal,  with a huge US flag or flying the stars and 
bars.  I immediately categorize them and start to plan my escape in the event 
of road rage...

While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle on 
many issues.  Perhaps my age has something to do with it.  I see more shades of 
gray now.  When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher.  

From: Robert 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

Red white and blue?


On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It is a self 
propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer 
attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their product but they 
both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our attach method between the 
grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to 
DW to allow interchangeability between brands.  Similar to a universal skid 
steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching 
world.  

I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I will avoid 
Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it 
green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment.  

I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else 
seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD green.  Not sure if 
Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.  Thinking Kubota orange, but 
does that communicate inferior Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but 
now-a days they make good stuff.  

It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost impossible to 
keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the mess.  Could 
paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all.  

What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?



Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell 
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench-blades.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I like money more than political ideologies.  I am a greedy, naked capitalist, 
opportunist.

I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue.  But some 
would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid.  Just like I judge a 
large pick up truck, rollin’ coal,  with a huge US flag or flying the stars and 
bars.  I immediately categorize them and start to plan my escape in the event 
of road rage...

While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle on 
many issues.  Perhaps my age has something to do with it.  I see more shades of 
gray now.  When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher.  

From: Robert 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

Red white and blue?


On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It is a self 
propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer 
attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their product but they 
both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our attach method between the 
grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to 
DW to allow interchangeability between brands.  Similar to a universal skid 
steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching 
world.  

I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I will avoid 
Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it 
green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment.  

I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else 
seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD green.  Not sure if 
Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.  Thinking Kubota orange, but 
does that communicate inferior Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but 
now-a days they make good stuff.  

It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost impossible to 
keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the mess.  Could 
paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all.  

What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?



Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell 
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench-blades.com
www.terabitnetworks.com




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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
The spatter and grime is mostly a grout that dries a very light gray color.  So 
trying to choose a lighter color to minimize the contrast.  


From: Kerry 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:53 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

Red, black and blue.
Black for all the stuff that'll get grimy, cylinders and such. Blue for outline 
colors, maybe frame color etc, red for logos and stuff you want to stand out 
my .02, for what it's worth. 


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From: Robert [mailto:i...@avantwireless.com
To: 
Sent: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 10:26:06 -0800
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors


Red white and blue?

On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
  I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It is a self 
propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer 
attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their product but they 
both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our attach method between the 
grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to 
DW to allow interchangeability between brands.  Similar to a universal skid 
steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching 
world. 

  I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I will 
avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint 
it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. 

  I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone 
else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD green.  Not sure 
if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.  Thinking Kubota orange, 
but does that communicate inferior Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was truly inferior 
but now-a days they make good stuff. 

  It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost impossible to 
keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the mess.  Could 
paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all. 

  What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?



  Chuck McCown
  McCown Technology Corporation
  8401 N Commerce Dr
  Lake Point, Utah 84074
  801-250-9503
  435-830-4306 cell 
  www.mccowntech.com
  www.microtrench-blades.com
  www.terabitnetworks.com




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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Kerry

Red, black and blue.
Black for all the stuff that'll get grimy, cylinders and such. Blue for outline 
colors, maybe frame color etc, red for logos and stuff you want to stand out
my .02, for what it's worth.


- Original Message -
 From: Robert [mailto:i...@avantwireless.com]
 To: <af@af.afmug.com>
 Sent: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 10:26:06 -0800
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors


Red white and blue?

On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:


I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It is a self 
propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer 
attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their product but they 
both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our attach method between the 
grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to 
DW to allow interchangeability between brands.  Similar to a universal skid 
steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching 
world.

I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I will avoid 
Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it 
green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment.

I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else 
seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD green.  Not sure if 
Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.  Thinking Kubota orange, but 
does that communicate inferior Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but 
now-a days they make good stuff.

It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost impossible to 
keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the mess.  Could 
paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all. 

What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?



Chuck McCown
 McCown Technology Corporation
 8401 N Commerce Dr
 Lake Point, Utah 84074
 801-250-9503
 435-830-4306 cell
 www.mccowntech.com
 www.microtrench-blades.com
 www.terabitnetworks.com

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Robert

Red white and blue?

On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It is 
a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 
1CM mixer attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their 
product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our 
attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of 
the machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability 
between brands.  Similar to a universal skid steer attachment.    This 
is a high demand machine for the micro trenching world.
I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I 
will avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says 
I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD 
equipment.
I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that 
everyone else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD 
green.  Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.  
Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? 
Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff.
It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost 
impossible to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will 
emphasize the mess.  Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but 
that does not excite me at all.

What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?
Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench-blades.com
www.terabitnetworks.com

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Trying to avoid dark colors like barn red.  I would love to paint it like LA 
Rams helmets.  But I don't want the extra work of two tone.  White to me 
says generic.


-Original Message- 
From: Andrew Haninger

Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:39 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

How about barn red? Or "hammertone green" like a Stanley thermos?

I wouldn't think about it too much. Do people pick industrial or
agricultural machinery based on which one's color speaks to them? Or
based on name and reputation?

If it really is good quality, the color won't make it work any better,
and maybe you don't want the customers who buy based on the color of
the thing, anyway.

Andy

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 12:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF  
wrote:


I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It is a 
self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM 
mixer attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their product 
but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our attach method 
between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is 
almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. 
Similar to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand 
machine for the micro trenching world.


I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I will 
avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I could 
paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment.


I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone 
else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD green.  Not 
sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.  Thinking Kubota 
orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was 
truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff.


It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost impossible 
to keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the mess. 
Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me 
at all.


What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?



Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench-blades.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Andrew Haninger
How about barn red? Or "hammertone green" like a Stanley thermos?

I wouldn't think about it too much. Do people pick industrial or
agricultural machinery based on which one's color speaks to them? Or
based on name and reputation?

If it really is good quality, the color won't make it work any better,
and maybe you don't want the customers who buy based on the color of
the thing, anyway.

Andy

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 12:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>
> I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It is a self 
> propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer 
> attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their product but they 
> both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our attach method between the 
> grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical 
> to DW to allow interchangeability between brands.  Similar to a universal 
> skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro 
> trenching world.
>
> I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I will 
> avoid Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I could 
> paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment.
>
> I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone 
> else seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD green.  Not 
> sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.  Thinking Kubota 
> orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was 
> truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff.
>
> It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost impossible to 
> keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the mess.  Could 
> paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all.
>
> What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?
>
>
>
> Chuck McCown
> McCown Technology Corporation
> 8401 N Commerce Dr
> Lake Point, Utah 84074
> 801-250-9503
> 435-830-4306 cell
> www.mccowntech.com
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[AFMUG] OT Machinery colors

2022-02-20 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before.  It is a self 
propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer 
attachment.  I have some significant improvements over their product but they 
both do the same thing and look a bit similar.  Our attach method between the 
grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to 
DW to allow interchangeability between brands.  Similar to a universal skid 
steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching 
world.  

I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine.  I will avoid 
Ditch Witch colors.  The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it 
green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment.  

I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else 
seems to use.  It is not agricultural so probably not JD green.  Not sure if 
Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff.  Thinking Kubota orange, but 
does that communicate inferior Kubota?  Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but 
now-a days they make good stuff.  

It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside.  Almost impossible to 
keep these things spotless.  So darker colors will emphasize the mess.  Could 
paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all.  

What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”?



Chuck McCown
McCown Technology Corporation
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell 
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench-blades.com
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