Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

[Steve Jones]

Container ships last I heard are staging on the coast for14 day quarantine,
if that's true, which it may not be, you can move a whole lot of military
gear and troops in those things. And there's a good probability those
troops have antibodies

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 12:03 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> A fun theory, but they don't have a significant naval force with which to
> cross the ocean.  They do have a lot of container ships
>
> Since we're wearing our tinfoil hats: "Hey U.S. these 100 container ships
> are just the backlog of shipping from the pandemic.  Definitely not a
> million troops hidden in these containers.  Nothing to worry about here."
>
>
> On 4/10/2020 10:50 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> Tin foil hat on.
> The people this is lethal to are the most expensive members of society to
> maintain. Eliminating that cost and resource drain makes a nation super
> efficient. Especially if you simply let them die.
> If a nation like china were preparing for conflict, that would be an ideal
> prior act.
> Almost every other global nation of merit will do everything they can to
> save all those people. Including decimating production, shorting the food
> supply chain and bankrupting the economy.
> If I were a rogue nation like china, I'd attack the hobbled US within the
> year
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 8:06 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> It has occurred to me that allowing things to take shape naturally and
>> allowing 1-2 million people with underlying conditions to die might be the
>> better course for the country economically.  That might include my wife and
>> children who have asthma, so no.
>>
>>
>> On 4/10/2020 8:20 AM, justsumname . wrote:
>>
>> Pretty safe assumption that 'most people' are not the least bit aware of
>> many things.
>> And therefore not prepared for much of anything.
>>
>> The virus isn't so bad, it's the people reacting to it.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:21 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>>
>>> My own utility bills won't be different.  Kids are home schooled so we
>>> kept the heat up at 66 all day anyway.  It drops to 60 when people
>>> should be in bed under their blankets.  I've spent more on home
>>> improvement.  Lowes and Home Depot both deliver by the way, and my
>>> weekends are not taken up by kids birthday parties, soccer games, etc.
>>> So I've been catching up on house projects. Meanwhile I've spent next to
>>> nothing on luxuries, restaurants, or entertainment.  My personal
>>> financials before and after are probably a wash.  .though perhaps
>>> I'm atypical.
>>>
>>> Here's one prediction: https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/
>>>
>>> About 2/3 of the way down: ""The economic slowdown and stay-at-home
>>> orders are likely to affect U.S. electricity consumption over the next
>>> few months. EIA expects the largest impact will occur in the commercial
>>> sector where forecast retail sales of electricity fall by 4.7% in 2020
>>> due to the closure of many businesses. Similarly, EIA expects retail
>>> sales of electricity to the industrial sector will fall by 4.2% in 2020
>>> as many factories cut back production. Forecast U.S. sales of
>>> electricity to the residential sector fall by 0.8% in 2020, as reduced
>>> power usage resulting from milder winter and summer weather is offset by
>>> increased household electricity consumption as much of the population
>>> stays at home.""
>>>
>>> On 4/9/2020 4:28 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>> > I wonder how many people don't realize that by staying home all day,
>>> > their utility usage is going to be way up.  I'm surprised I haven't
>>> > heard more about that being covered.  Keeping the house warmer all
>>> > day, and the TV on all costs $$$.  It's not free, like the Internet.
>>> >
>>> > I'm also curious how much total energy usage has changed.  They say
>>> > pollution is down because driving is down.  I think most heavy
>>> > manufacturing is still up and running.  The office buildings can't
>>> > change their HVAC programs because there are still a couple people in
>>> > the buildings working, especially if they're all remoteing into their
>>> > office desktop machines.  And daytime residential usage should be
>>> > dramatically up.  Or is energy consumption based on the person, and is
>>> > directly tied to where that person is at?
>>> >
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Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

[Adam Moffett]

A fun theory, but they don't have a significant naval force with which 
to cross the ocean.  They do have a lot of container ships


Since we're wearing our tinfoil hats: "Hey U.S. these 100 container 
ships are just the backlog of shipping from the pandemic.  Definitely 
not a million troops hidden in these containers.  Nothing to worry about 
here."



On 4/10/2020 10:50 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

Tin foil hat on.
The people this is lethal to are the most expensive members of society 
to maintain. Eliminating that cost and resource drain makes a nation 
super efficient. Especially if you simply let them die.
If a nation like china were preparing for conflict, that would be an 
ideal prior act.
Almost every other global nation of merit will do everything they can 
to save all those people. Including decimating production, shorting 
the food supply chain and bankrupting the economy.
If I were a rogue nation like china, I'd attack the hobbled US within 
the year


On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 8:06 AM Adam Moffett > wrote:


It has occurred to me that allowing things to take shape naturally
and allowing 1-2 million people with underlying conditions to die
might be the better course for the country economically.  That
might include my wife and children who have asthma, so no.


On 4/10/2020 8:20 AM, justsumname . wrote:

Pretty safe assumption that 'most people' are not the least bit
aware of many things.
And therefore not prepared for much of anything.

The virus isn't so bad, it's the people reacting to it.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:21 PM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

My own utility bills won't be different.  Kids are home
schooled so we
kept the heat up at 66 all day anyway.  It drops to 60 when
people
should be in bed under their blankets.  I've spent more on home
improvement.  Lowes and Home Depot both deliver by the way,
and my
weekends are not taken up by kids birthday parties, soccer
games, etc.
So I've been catching up on house projects. Meanwhile I've
spent next to
nothing on luxuries, restaurants, or entertainment. My personal
financials before and after are probably a wash. .though
perhaps
I'm atypical.

Here's one prediction: https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/

About 2/3 of the way down: ""The economic slowdown and
stay-at-home
orders are likely to affect U.S. electricity consumption over
the next
few months. EIA expects the largest impact will occur in the
commercial
sector where forecast retail sales of electricity fall by
4.7% in 2020
due to the closure of many businesses. Similarly, EIA expects
retail
sales of electricity to the industrial sector will fall by
4.2% in 2020
as many factories cut back production. Forecast U.S. sales of
electricity to the residential sector fall by 0.8% in 2020,
as reduced
power usage resulting from milder winter and summer weather
is offset by
increased household electricity consumption as much of the
population
stays at home.""

On 4/9/2020 4:28 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
> I wonder how many people don't realize that by staying home
all day,
> their utility usage is going to be way up.  I'm surprised I
haven't
> heard more about that being covered.  Keeping the house
warmer all
> day, and the TV on all costs $$$.  It's not free, like the
Internet.
>
> I'm also curious how much total energy usage has changed. 
They say
> pollution is down because driving is down.  I think most heavy
> manufacturing is still up and running.  The office
buildings can't
> change their HVAC programs because there are still a couple
people in
> the buildings working, especially if they're all remoteing
into their
> office desktop machines.  And daytime residential usage
should be
> dramatically up.  Or is energy consumption based on the
person, and is
> directly tied to where that person is at?
>

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Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

[Steve Jones]

Tin foil hat on.
The people this is lethal to are the most expensive members of society to
maintain. Eliminating that cost and resource drain makes a nation super
efficient. Especially if you simply let them die.
If a nation like china were preparing for conflict, that would be an ideal
prior act.
Almost every other global nation of merit will do everything they can to
save all those people. Including decimating production, shorting the food
supply chain and bankrupting the economy.
If I were a rogue nation like china, I'd attack the hobbled US within the
year

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 8:06 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> It has occurred to me that allowing things to take shape naturally and
> allowing 1-2 million people with underlying conditions to die might be the
> better course for the country economically.  That might include my wife and
> children who have asthma, so no.
>
>
> On 4/10/2020 8:20 AM, justsumname . wrote:
>
> Pretty safe assumption that 'most people' are not the least bit aware of
> many things.
> And therefore not prepared for much of anything.
>
> The virus isn't so bad, it's the people reacting to it.
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:21 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> My own utility bills won't be different.  Kids are home schooled so we
>> kept the heat up at 66 all day anyway.  It drops to 60 when people
>> should be in bed under their blankets.  I've spent more on home
>> improvement.  Lowes and Home Depot both deliver by the way, and my
>> weekends are not taken up by kids birthday parties, soccer games, etc.
>> So I've been catching up on house projects. Meanwhile I've spent next to
>> nothing on luxuries, restaurants, or entertainment.  My personal
>> financials before and after are probably a wash.  .though perhaps
>> I'm atypical.
>>
>> Here's one prediction: https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/
>>
>> About 2/3 of the way down: ""The economic slowdown and stay-at-home
>> orders are likely to affect U.S. electricity consumption over the next
>> few months. EIA expects the largest impact will occur in the commercial
>> sector where forecast retail sales of electricity fall by 4.7% in 2020
>> due to the closure of many businesses. Similarly, EIA expects retail
>> sales of electricity to the industrial sector will fall by 4.2% in 2020
>> as many factories cut back production. Forecast U.S. sales of
>> electricity to the residential sector fall by 0.8% in 2020, as reduced
>> power usage resulting from milder winter and summer weather is offset by
>> increased household electricity consumption as much of the population
>> stays at home.""
>>
>> On 4/9/2020 4:28 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>> > I wonder how many people don't realize that by staying home all day,
>> > their utility usage is going to be way up.  I'm surprised I haven't
>> > heard more about that being covered.  Keeping the house warmer all
>> > day, and the TV on all costs $$$.  It's not free, like the Internet.
>> >
>> > I'm also curious how much total energy usage has changed.  They say
>> > pollution is down because driving is down.  I think most heavy
>> > manufacturing is still up and running.  The office buildings can't
>> > change their HVAC programs because there are still a couple people in
>> > the buildings working, especially if they're all remoteing into their
>> > office desktop machines.  And daytime residential usage should be
>> > dramatically up.  Or is energy consumption based on the person, and is
>> > directly tied to where that person is at?
>> >
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Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

[Robert]

In one fell swoop you fix social security (you don't) medicare (you 
don't) and the homeless problem ( you don't ) but there are plenty that 
would believe that if it came from on top...


On 4/10/20 6:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Ahhh, yes, the rise of the master race!
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Friday, April 10, 2020 7:05 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

It has occurred to me that allowing things to take shape naturally and 
allowing 1-2 million people with underlying conditions to die might be 
the better course for the country economically.  That might include my 
wife and children who have asthma, so no.


On 4/10/2020 8:20 AM, justsumname . wrote:
Pretty safe assumption that 'most people' are not the least bit aware 
of many things.

And therefore not prepared for much of anything.
The virus isn't so bad, it's the people reacting to it.
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:21 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

My own utility bills won't be different.  Kids are home schooled
so we
kept the heat up at 66 all day anyway.  It drops to 60 when people
should be in bed under their blankets.  I've spent more on home
improvement.  Lowes and Home Depot both deliver by the way, and my
weekends are not taken up by kids birthday parties, soccer games,
etc.
So I've been catching up on house projects. Meanwhile I've spent
next to
nothing on luxuries, restaurants, or entertainment. My personal
financials before and after are probably a wash. .though perhaps
I'm atypical.

Here's one prediction: https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/

About 2/3 of the way down: ""The economic slowdown and stay-at-home
orders are likely to affect U.S. electricity consumption over the
next
few months. EIA expects the largest impact will occur in the
commercial
sector where forecast retail sales of electricity fall by 4.7% in
2020
due to the closure of many businesses. Similarly, EIA expects retail
sales of electricity to the industrial sector will fall by 4.2%
in 2020
as many factories cut back production. Forecast U.S. sales of
electricity to the residential sector fall by 0.8% in 2020, as
reduced
power usage resulting from milder winter and summer weather is
offset by
increased household electricity consumption as much of the
population
stays at home.""

On 4/9/2020 4:28 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
> I wonder how many people don't realize that by staying home all
day,
> their utility usage is going to be way up.  I'm surprised I
haven't
> heard more about that being covered.  Keeping the house warmer all
> day, and the TV on all costs $$$.  It's not free, like the
Internet.
>
> I'm also curious how much total energy usage has changed.  They
say
> pollution is down because driving is down.  I think most heavy
> manufacturing is still up and running.  The office buildings can't
> change their HVAC programs because there are still a couple
people in
> the buildings working, especially if they're all remoteing into
their
> office desktop machines.  And daytime residential usage should be
> dramatically up.  Or is energy consumption based on the person,
and is
> directly tied to where that person is at?
>

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Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

[chuck]

Ahhh, yes, the rise of the master race!  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 7:05 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

It has occurred to me that allowing things to take shape naturally and allowing 
1-2 million people with underlying conditions to die might be the better course 
for the country economically.  That might include my wife and children who have 
asthma, so no.



On 4/10/2020 8:20 AM, justsumname . wrote:

  Pretty safe assumption that 'most people' are not the least bit aware of many 
things. 
  And therefore not prepared for much of anything.

  The virus isn't so bad, it's the people reacting to it.

  On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:21 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

My own utility bills won't be different.  Kids are home schooled so we 
kept the heat up at 66 all day anyway.  It drops to 60 when people 
should be in bed under their blankets.  I've spent more on home 
improvement.  Lowes and Home Depot both deliver by the way, and my 
weekends are not taken up by kids birthday parties, soccer games, etc.  
So I've been catching up on house projects. Meanwhile I've spent next to 
nothing on luxuries, restaurants, or entertainment.  My personal 
financials before and after are probably a wash.  .though perhaps 
I'm atypical.

Here's one prediction: https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/

About 2/3 of the way down: ""The economic slowdown and stay-at-home 
orders are likely to affect U.S. electricity consumption over the next 
few months. EIA expects the largest impact will occur in the commercial 
sector where forecast retail sales of electricity fall by 4.7% in 2020 
due to the closure of many businesses. Similarly, EIA expects retail 
sales of electricity to the industrial sector will fall by 4.2% in 2020 
as many factories cut back production. Forecast U.S. sales of 
electricity to the residential sector fall by 0.8% in 2020, as reduced 
power usage resulting from milder winter and summer weather is offset by 
increased household electricity consumption as much of the population 
stays at home.""

On 4/9/2020 4:28 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
> I wonder how many people don't realize that by staying home all day, 
> their utility usage is going to be way up.  I'm surprised I haven't 
> heard more about that being covered.  Keeping the house warmer all 
> day, and the TV on all costs $$$.  It's not free, like the Internet.
>
> I'm also curious how much total energy usage has changed.  They say 
> pollution is down because driving is down.  I think most heavy 
> manufacturing is still up and running.  The office buildings can't 
> change their HVAC programs because there are still a couple people in 
> the buildings working, especially if they're all remoteing into their 
> office desktop machines.  And daytime residential usage should be 
> dramatically up.  Or is energy consumption based on the person, and is 
> directly tied to where that person is at?
>

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Re: [AFMUG] Utility bills

[Adam Moffett]

It has occurred to me that allowing things to take shape naturally and 
allowing 1-2 million people with underlying conditions to die might be 
the better course for the country economically.  That might include my 
wife and children who have asthma, so no.



On 4/10/2020 8:20 AM, justsumname . wrote:
Pretty safe assumption that 'most people' are not the least bit aware 
of many things.

And therefore not prepared for much of anything.

The virus isn't so bad, it's the people reacting to it.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:21 PM Adam Moffett > wrote:


My own utility bills won't be different.  Kids are home schooled
so we
kept the heat up at 66 all day anyway.  It drops to 60 when people
should be in bed under their blankets.  I've spent more on home
improvement.  Lowes and Home Depot both deliver by the way, and my
weekends are not taken up by kids birthday parties, soccer games,
etc.
So I've been catching up on house projects. Meanwhile I've spent
next to
nothing on luxuries, restaurants, or entertainment.  My personal
financials before and after are probably a wash.  .though perhaps
I'm atypical.

Here's one prediction: https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/

About 2/3 of the way down: ""The economic slowdown and stay-at-home
orders are likely to affect U.S. electricity consumption over the
next
few months. EIA expects the largest impact will occur in the
commercial
sector where forecast retail sales of electricity fall by 4.7% in
2020
due to the closure of many businesses. Similarly, EIA expects retail
sales of electricity to the industrial sector will fall by 4.2% in
2020
as many factories cut back production. Forecast U.S. sales of
electricity to the residential sector fall by 0.8% in 2020, as
reduced
power usage resulting from milder winter and summer weather is
offset by
increased household electricity consumption as much of the population
stays at home.""

On 4/9/2020 4:28 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
> I wonder how many people don't realize that by staying home all
day,
> their utility usage is going to be way up.  I'm surprised I haven't
> heard more about that being covered.  Keeping the house warmer all
> day, and the TV on all costs $$$.  It's not free, like the Internet.
>
> I'm also curious how much total energy usage has changed.  They say
> pollution is down because driving is down.  I think most heavy
> manufacturing is still up and running.  The office buildings can't
> change their HVAC programs because there are still a couple
people in
> the buildings working, especially if they're all remoteing into
their
> office desktop machines.  And daytime residential usage should be
> dramatically up.  Or is energy consumption based on the person,
and is
> directly tied to where that person is at?
>

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[justsumname .]

Pretty safe assumption that 'most people' are not the least bit aware of
many things.
And therefore not prepared for much of anything.

The virus isn't so bad, it's the people reacting to it.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:21 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> My own utility bills won't be different.  Kids are home schooled so we
> kept the heat up at 66 all day anyway.  It drops to 60 when people
> should be in bed under their blankets.  I've spent more on home
> improvement.  Lowes and Home Depot both deliver by the way, and my
> weekends are not taken up by kids birthday parties, soccer games, etc.
> So I've been catching up on house projects. Meanwhile I've spent next to
> nothing on luxuries, restaurants, or entertainment.  My personal
> financials before and after are probably a wash.  .though perhaps
> I'm atypical.
>
> Here's one prediction: https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/
>
> About 2/3 of the way down: ""The economic slowdown and stay-at-home
> orders are likely to affect U.S. electricity consumption over the next
> few months. EIA expects the largest impact will occur in the commercial
> sector where forecast retail sales of electricity fall by 4.7% in 2020
> due to the closure of many businesses. Similarly, EIA expects retail
> sales of electricity to the industrial sector will fall by 4.2% in 2020
> as many factories cut back production. Forecast U.S. sales of
> electricity to the residential sector fall by 0.8% in 2020, as reduced
> power usage resulting from milder winter and summer weather is offset by
> increased household electricity consumption as much of the population
> stays at home.""
>
> On 4/9/2020 4:28 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
> > I wonder how many people don't realize that by staying home all day,
> > their utility usage is going to be way up.  I'm surprised I haven't
> > heard more about that being covered.  Keeping the house warmer all
> > day, and the TV on all costs $$$.  It's not free, like the Internet.
> >
> > I'm also curious how much total energy usage has changed.  They say
> > pollution is down because driving is down.  I think most heavy
> > manufacturing is still up and running.  The office buildings can't
> > change their HVAC programs because there are still a couple people in
> > the buildings working, especially if they're all remoteing into their
> > office desktop machines.  And daytime residential usage should be
> > dramatically up.  Or is energy consumption based on the person, and is
> > directly tied to where that person is at?
> >
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[Adam Moffett]

My own utility bills won't be different.  Kids are home schooled so we 
kept the heat up at 66 all day anyway.  It drops to 60 when people 
should be in bed under their blankets.  I've spent more on home 
improvement.  Lowes and Home Depot both deliver by the way, and my 
weekends are not taken up by kids birthday parties, soccer games, etc.  
So I've been catching up on house projects. Meanwhile I've spent next to 
nothing on luxuries, restaurants, or entertainment.  My personal 
financials before and after are probably a wash.  .though perhaps 
I'm atypical.


Here's one prediction: https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/

About 2/3 of the way down: ""The economic slowdown and stay-at-home 
orders are likely to affect U.S. electricity consumption over the next 
few months. EIA expects the largest impact will occur in the commercial 
sector where forecast retail sales of electricity fall by 4.7% in 2020 
due to the closure of many businesses. Similarly, EIA expects retail 
sales of electricity to the industrial sector will fall by 4.2% in 2020 
as many factories cut back production. Forecast U.S. sales of 
electricity to the residential sector fall by 0.8% in 2020, as reduced 
power usage resulting from milder winter and summer weather is offset by 
increased household electricity consumption as much of the population 
stays at home.""


On 4/9/2020 4:28 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
I wonder how many people don't realize that by staying home all day, 
their utility usage is going to be way up.  I'm surprised I haven't 
heard more about that being covered.  Keeping the house warmer all 
day, and the TV on all costs $$$.  It's not free, like the Internet.


I'm also curious how much total energy usage has changed.  They say 
pollution is down because driving is down.  I think most heavy 
manufacturing is still up and running.  The office buildings can't 
change their HVAC programs because there are still a couple people in 
the buildings working, especially if they're all remoteing into their 
office desktop machines.  And daytime residential usage should be 
dramatically up.  Or is energy consumption based on the person, and is 
directly tied to where that person is at?




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[Steve Jones]

I dont want to see my electric bill

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020, 3:29 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I wonder how many people don't realize that by staying home all day,
> their utility usage is going to be way up.  I'm surprised I haven't
> heard more about that being covered.  Keeping the house warmer all day,
> and the TV on all costs $$$.  It's not free, like the Internet.
>
> I'm also curious how much total energy usage has changed.  They say
> pollution is down because driving is down.  I think most heavy
> manufacturing is still up and running.  The office buildings can't
> change their HVAC programs because there are still a couple people in
> the buildings working, especially if they're all remoteing into their
> office desktop machines.  And daytime residential usage should be
> dramatically up.  Or is energy consumption based on the person, and is
> directly tied to where that person is at?
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[AFMUG] Utility bills

[Nate Burke]

I wonder how many people don't realize that by staying home all day, 
their utility usage is going to be way up.  I'm surprised I haven't 
heard more about that being covered.  Keeping the house warmer all day, 
and the TV on all costs $$$.  It's not free, like the Internet.


I'm also curious how much total energy usage has changed.  They say 
pollution is down because driving is down.  I think most heavy 
manufacturing is still up and running.  The office buildings can't 
change their HVAC programs because there are still a couple people in 
the buildings working, especially if they're all remoteing into their 
office desktop machines.  And daytime residential usage should be 
dramatically up.  Or is energy consumption based on the person, and is 
directly tied to where that person is at?


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