Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Real men wear pink On Wed, Feb 23, 2022, 2:37 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > Make it pink and own the brand. Either that or that safety green/yellow > color I'm sure you are seeing all over the ski slopes these days. That > might be expensive paint but it would make a statement. > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 11:18 AM Chuck McCown via AF > wrote: > >> I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a >> self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer >> attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but >> they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method >> between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is >> almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar >> to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for >> the micro trenching world. >> >> I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will >> avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could >> paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. >> >> I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that >> everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD >> green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. >> Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years >> ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. >> >> It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible >> to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. >> Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me >> at all. >> >> What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? >> >> >> >> Chuck McCown >> McCown Technology Corporation >> 8401 N Commerce Dr >> Lake Point, Utah 84074 >> 801-250-9503 >> 435-830-4306 cell >> www.mccowntech.com >> www.microtrench-blades.com >> www.terabitnetworks.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > > -- > > Carl Peterson > > *PORT NETWORKS* > > 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 > > Baltimore, MD 21202 > > (410) 637-3707 > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Make it pink and own the brand. Either that or that safety green/yellow color I'm sure you are seeing all over the ski slopes these days. That might be expensive paint but it would make a statement. On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 11:18 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a > self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer > attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but > they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method > between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is > almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar > to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for > the micro trenching world. > > I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will > avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could > paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. > > I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone > else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not > sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota > orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was > truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. > > It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible > to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. > Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me > at all. > > What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? > > > > Chuck McCown > McCown Technology Corporation > 8401 N Commerce Dr > Lake Point, Utah 84074 > 801-250-9503 > 435-830-4306 cell > www.mccowntech.com > www.microtrench-blades.com > www.terabitnetworks.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Why not use a color that everyone remembers fondly like baby-poo greenish-yellow? -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 8:46 PM Daniel White wrote: > I saw this light blue on a new Ford Bronco today that looked pretty > sharp. Looks like it is called "Area 51" > > [image: Ford Bronco Truck In The Works, Could Arrive As Early As 2022 | > Carscoops] > > > > [image: photograph] > Daniel White > Co-Founder > phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 > direct: +1 (702) 470-2766 > > Chuck McCown via AF > February 21, 2022 at 11:48 > Does not inflame the passion to buy, to possess. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Monday, February 21, 2022 11:28 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors > > Smoke grey > > > -- > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > Jaime Solorza > February 21, 2022 at 11:28 > Smoke grey > > > > Chuck McCown via AF > February 21, 2022 at 09:27 > Our local powder coating shop changed hands and doubled pricing. But that > is the best option. > > -Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:10 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors > > Robin's egg blue. Just enough color to show where it still needs > cleaning after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an > issue with looks. And why bother with paint crews? Send the parts out > prior to assembly for powder coat. Durable goods should get durable > coatings, paint just scratches and looks like crap, powder coating takes > a beating keeps on looking nice! > > > > Jan-GAMs > February 20, 2022 at 22:10 > Robin's egg blue. Just enough color to show where it still needs cleaning > after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an issue with > looks. And why bother with paint crews? Send the parts out prior to > assembly for powder coat. Durable goods should get durable coatings, paint > just scratches and looks like crap, powder coating takes a beating keeps on > looking nice! > > > > Robert Andrews > February 20, 2022 at 14:31 > I love my country and hate that being patriotic has become a label of > sides, that said, I like red white and blue and think that the pastel > versions of those colors could work... > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
I saw this light blue on a new Ford Bronco today that looked pretty sharp. Looks like it is called "Area 51" Ford Bronco Truck In The Works, Could Arrive As Early As 2022 | Carscoops photograph Daniel White Co-Founder phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 direct:+1 (702) 470-2766 > Chuck McCown via AF <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > February 21, 2022 at 11:48 > Does not inflame the passion to buy, to possess. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Monday, February 21, 2022 11:28 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors > > Smoke grey > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > Jaime Solorza <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > February 21, 2022 at 11:28 > Smoke grey > > > > Chuck McCown via AF <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > February 21, 2022 at 09:27 > Our local powder coating shop changed hands and doubled pricing. But > that is the best option. > > -----Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:10 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors > > Robin's egg blue. Just enough color to show where it still needs > cleaning after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an > issue with looks. And why bother with paint crews? Send the parts out > prior to assembly for powder coat. Durable goods should get durable > coatings, paint just scratches and looks like crap, powder coating takes > a beating keeps on looking nice! > > > > Jan-GAMs <mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net> > February 20, 2022 at 22:10 > Robin's egg blue. Just enough color to show where it still needs > cleaning after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an > issue with looks. And why bother with paint crews? Send the parts > out prior to assembly for powder coat. Durable goods should get > durable coatings, paint just scratches and looks like crap, powder > coating takes a beating keeps on looking nice! > > > > Robert Andrews <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> > February 20, 2022 at 14:31 > I love my country and hate that being patriotic has become a label of > sides, that said, I like red white and blue and think that the pastel > versions of those colors could work... > > > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Does not inflame the passion to buy, to possess. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 11:28 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors Smoke grey On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 9:28 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Our local powder coating shop changed hands and doubled pricing. But that is the best option. -Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:10 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors Robin's egg blue. Just enough color to show where it still needs cleaning after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an issue with looks. And why bother with paint crews? Send the parts out prior to assembly for powder coat. Durable goods should get durable coatings, paint just scratches and looks like crap, powder coating takes a beating keeps on looking nice! On 2/20/22 13:31, Robert Andrews wrote: > I love my country and hate that being patriotic has become a label of > sides, that said, I like red white and blue and think that the pastel > versions of those colors could work... > > On 2/20/22 11:07, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> I like money more than political ideologies. I am a greedy, naked >> capitalist, opportunist. >> I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But >> some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. Just >> like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, with a huge US flag or >> flying the stars and bars. I immediately categorize them and start to >> plan my escape in the event of road rage... >> While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle >> on many issues. Perhaps my age has something to do with it. I see more >> shades of gray now. When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher. >> From: Robert >> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM >> To: af@af.afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors >> Red white and blue? >> On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a >> self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM >> mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over their >> product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our >> attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the >> machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between >> brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high >> demand machine for the micro trenching world. >> I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will >> avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could >> paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. >> I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that >> everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD >> green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. >> Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years >> ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. >> It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible >> to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. >> Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me >> at all. >> What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? >> Chuck McCown >> McCown Technology Corporation >> 8401 N Commerce Dr >> Lake Point, Utah 84074 >> 801-250-9503 >> 435-830-4306 cell >> www.mccowntech.com >> www.microtrench-blades.com >> www.terabitnetworks.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Smoke grey On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 9:28 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Our local powder coating shop changed hands and doubled pricing. But that > is the best option. > > -Original Message- > From: Jan-GAMs > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:10 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors > > Robin's egg blue. Just enough color to show where it still needs > cleaning after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an > issue with looks. And why bother with paint crews? Send the parts out > prior to assembly for powder coat. Durable goods should get durable > coatings, paint just scratches and looks like crap, powder coating takes > a beating keeps on looking nice! > > On 2/20/22 13:31, Robert Andrews wrote: > > I love my country and hate that being patriotic has become a label of > > sides, that said, I like red white and blue and think that the pastel > > versions of those colors could work... > > > > On 2/20/22 11:07, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > >> I like money more than political ideologies. I am a greedy, naked > >> capitalist, opportunist. > >> I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But > >> some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. Just > >> like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, with a huge US flag > or > >> flying the stars and bars. I immediately categorize them and start to > >> plan my escape in the event of road rage... > >> While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the > middle > >> on many issues. Perhaps my age has something to do with it. I see > more > >> shades of gray now. When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher. > >> From: Robert > >> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM > >> To: af@af.afmug.com > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors > >> Red white and blue? > >> On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > >> I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a > >> self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM > >> mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over their > >> product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our > >> attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of > the > >> machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between > >> brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high > >> demand machine for the micro trenching world. > >> I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I > will > >> avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I > could > >> paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. > >> I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that > >> everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD > >> green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. > >> Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? > Years > >> ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. > >> It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost > impossible > >> to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the > mess. > >> Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite > me > >> at all. > >> What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? > >> Chuck McCown > >> McCown Technology Corporation > >> 8401 N Commerce Dr > >> Lake Point, Utah 84074 > >> 801-250-9503 > >> 435-830-4306 cell > >> www.mccowntech.com > >> www.microtrench-blades.com > >> www.terabitnetworks.com > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Our local powder coating shop changed hands and doubled pricing. But that is the best option. -Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:10 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors Robin's egg blue. Just enough color to show where it still needs cleaning after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an issue with looks. And why bother with paint crews? Send the parts out prior to assembly for powder coat. Durable goods should get durable coatings, paint just scratches and looks like crap, powder coating takes a beating keeps on looking nice! On 2/20/22 13:31, Robert Andrews wrote: I love my country and hate that being patriotic has become a label of sides, that said, I like red white and blue and think that the pastel versions of those colors could work... On 2/20/22 11:07, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I like money more than political ideologies. I am a greedy, naked capitalist, opportunist. I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, with a huge US flag or flying the stars and bars. I immediately categorize them and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage... While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle on many issues. Perhaps my age has something to do with it. I see more shades of gray now. When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher. From: Robert Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors Red white and blue? On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching world. I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all. What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 435-830-4306 cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench-blades.com www.terabitnetworks.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Robin's egg blue. Just enough color to show where it still needs cleaning after use but not enough color to make lack of cleaning an issue with looks. And why bother with paint crews? Send the parts out prior to assembly for powder coat. Durable goods should get durable coatings, paint just scratches and looks like crap, powder coating takes a beating keeps on looking nice! On 2/20/22 13:31, Robert Andrews wrote: I love my country and hate that being patriotic has become a label of sides, that said, I like red white and blue and think that the pastel versions of those colors could work... On 2/20/22 11:07, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I like money more than political ideologies. I am a greedy, naked capitalist, opportunist. I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, with a huge US flag or flying the stars and bars. I immediately categorize them and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage... While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle on many issues. Perhaps my age has something to do with it. I see more shades of gray now. When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher. From: Robert Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors Red white and blue? On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment. This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching world. I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all. What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 435-830-4306 cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench-blades.com www.terabitnetworks.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Can't unsee that one On 2/20/22 11:59, Steve Jones wrote: I cringe when I see implements painted red white and blue, it inevitably means theres an oversized diesel with a steel nutsack hanging off the hitch somewhere nearby, and probably a low production crew hungover operating it. Paint it rust color so it always looks new On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I like money more than political ideologies. I am a greedy, naked capitalist, opportunist. I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, with a huge US flag or flying the stars and bars. I immediately categorize them and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage... While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle on many issues. Perhaps my age has something to do with it. I see more shades of gray now. When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher. From: Robert Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors Red white and blue? On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment. This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching world. I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all. What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 435-830-4306 cell www.mccowntech.com <http://www.mccowntech.com> www.microtrench-blades.com <http://www.microtrench-blades.com> www.terabitnetworks.com <http://www.terabitnetworks.com> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Tnx Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 20, 2022, at 5:03 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) > wrote: > > > I agree with this 100%. > >> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, 2:49 PM can...@believewireless.net >> wrote: >> If I were you, I would choose brand over what other people think of a color. >> Most marketing people would say it is all >> about the story. Your story is the family history of baby blue. Explain the >> story behind the color and market the heck >> out of it. I buy "Chuck" products because of who you are to the industry and >> what you have done to more the industry >> forward. Sell the family values of baby blue and people will latch onto it. >> >>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 4:44 PM Robert Andrews >>> wrote: >>> This is actually close to what I find works well in dirty environments >>> for my cars. IF it is available, I like gold shades for cars, as they >>> don't get as hot and also don't show dirt. As the color fades it still >>> looks good. >>> >>> On 2/20/22 11:59, Steve Jones wrote: >>> > I cringe when I see implements painted red white and blue, it inevitably >>> > means theres an oversized diesel with a steel nutsack hanging off the >>> > hitch somewhere nearby, and probably a low production crew hungover >>> > operating it. >>> > >>> > Paint it rust color so it always looks new >>> > >>> > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF >> > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > I like money more than political ideologies. I am a greedy, naked >>> > capitalist, opportunist. >>> > I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. >>> > But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. >>> > Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, with a huge >>> > US flag or flying the stars and bars. I immediately categorize them >>> > and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage... >>> > While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the >>> > middle on many issues. Perhaps my age has something to do with it. >>> > I see more shades of gray now. When I was young, I was almost a >>> > John Bircher. >>> > From: Robert >>> > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM >>> > To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors >>> > Red white and blue? >>> > On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >>> > I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It >>> > is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with >>> > a 1CM mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over >>> > their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit >>> > similar. Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment >>> > and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow >>> > interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid >>> > steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro >>> > trenching world. >>> > I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I >>> > will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision >>> > says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD >>> > equipment. >>> > I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that >>> > everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not >>> > JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good >>> > stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior >>> > Kubota? Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they >>> > make good stuff. >>> > It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost >>> > impossible to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will >>> > emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that >>> > but that does not excite me at all. >>> > What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good >>> > value”? >>> > Chuck McCown >>> > McCown Technology Corpo
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
I agree with this 100%. On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, 2:49 PM can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > If I were you, I would choose brand over what other people think of a > color. Most marketing people would say it is all > about the story. Your story is the family history of baby blue. Explain > the story behind the color and market the heck > out of it. I buy "Chuck" products because of who you are to the industry > and what you have done to more the industry > forward. Sell the family values of baby blue and people will latch onto it. > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 4:44 PM Robert Andrews > wrote: > >> This is actually close to what I find works well in dirty environments >> for my cars. IF it is available, I like gold shades for cars, as they >> don't get as hot and also don't show dirt. As the color fades it still >> looks good. >> >> On 2/20/22 11:59, Steve Jones wrote: >> > I cringe when I see implements painted red white and blue, it >> inevitably >> > means theres an oversized diesel with a steel nutsack hanging off the >> > hitch somewhere nearby, and probably a low production crew hungover >> > operating it. >> > >> > Paint it rust color so it always looks new >> > >> > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF > > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote: >> > >> > I like money more than political ideologies. I am a greedy, naked >> > capitalist, opportunist. >> > I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. >> > But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. >> > Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, with a huge >> > US flag or flying the stars and bars. I immediately categorize them >> > and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage... >> > While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the >> > middle on many issues. Perhaps my age has something to do with it. >> > I see more shades of gray now. When I was young, I was almost a >> > John Bircher. >> > From: Robert >> > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM >> > To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors >> > Red white and blue? >> > On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> > I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It >> > is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with >> > a 1CM mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over >> > their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit >> > similar. Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment >> > and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow >> > interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid >> > steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro >> > trenching world. >> > I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I >> > will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision >> > says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD >> > equipment. >> > I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that >> > everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not >> > JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good >> > stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior >> > Kubota? Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they >> > make good stuff. >> > It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost >> > impossible to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will >> > emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that >> > but that does not excite me at all. >> > What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good >> value”? >> > Chuck McCown >> > McCown Technology Corporation >> > 8401 N Commerce Dr >> > Lake Point, Utah 84074 >> > 801-250-9503 >> > 435-830-4306 cell >> > www.mccowntech.com <http://www.mccowntech.com> >> > www.microtrench-blades.com <http://www.microtrench-blades.com> >> > www.terabitnetworks.com <http://www.terabitnetworks.com> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
If I were you, I would choose brand over what other people think of a color. Most marketing people would say it is all about the story. Your story is the family history of baby blue. Explain the story behind the color and market the heck out of it. I buy "Chuck" products because of who you are to the industry and what you have done to more the industry forward. Sell the family values of baby blue and people will latch onto it. On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 4:44 PM Robert Andrews wrote: > This is actually close to what I find works well in dirty environments > for my cars. IF it is available, I like gold shades for cars, as they > don't get as hot and also don't show dirt. As the color fades it still > looks good. > > On 2/20/22 11:59, Steve Jones wrote: > > I cringe when I see implements painted red white and blue, it inevitably > > means theres an oversized diesel with a steel nutsack hanging off the > > hitch somewhere nearby, and probably a low production crew hungover > > operating it. > > > > Paint it rust color so it always looks new > > > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote: > > > > I like money more than political ideologies. I am a greedy, naked > > capitalist, opportunist. > > I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. > > But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. > > Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, with a huge > > US flag or flying the stars and bars. I immediately categorize them > > and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage... > > While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the > > middle on many issues. Perhaps my age has something to do with it. > > I see more shades of gray now. When I was young, I was almost a > > John Bircher. > > From: Robert > > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM > > To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors > > Red white and blue? > > On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It > > is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with > > a 1CM mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over > > their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit > > similar. Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment > > and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow > > interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid > > steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro > > trenching world. > > I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I > > will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision > > says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD > > equipment. > > I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that > > everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not > > JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good > > stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior > > Kubota? Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they > > make good stuff. > > It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost > > impossible to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will > > emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that > > but that does not excite me at all. > > What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good > value”? > > Chuck McCown > > McCown Technology Corporation > > 8401 N Commerce Dr > > Lake Point, Utah 84074 > > 801-250-9503 > > 435-830-4306 cell > > www.mccowntech.com <http://www.mccowntech.com> > > www.microtrench-blades.com <http://www.microtrench-blades.com> > > www.terabitnetworks.com <http://www.terabitnetworks.com> > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
This is actually close to what I find works well in dirty environments for my cars. IF it is available, I like gold shades for cars, as they don't get as hot and also don't show dirt. As the color fades it still looks good. On 2/20/22 11:59, Steve Jones wrote: I cringe when I see implements painted red white and blue, it inevitably means theres an oversized diesel with a steel nutsack hanging off the hitch somewhere nearby, and probably a low production crew hungover operating it. Paint it rust color so it always looks new On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote: I like money more than political ideologies. I am a greedy, naked capitalist, opportunist. I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, with a huge US flag or flying the stars and bars. I immediately categorize them and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage... While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle on many issues. Perhaps my age has something to do with it. I see more shades of gray now. When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher. From: Robert Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors Red white and blue? On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment. This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching world. I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all. What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 435-830-4306 cell www.mccowntech.com <http://www.mccowntech.com> www.microtrench-blades.com <http://www.microtrench-blades.com> www.terabitnetworks.com <http://www.terabitnetworks.com> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
I love my country and hate that being patriotic has become a label of sides, that said, I like red white and blue and think that the pastel versions of those colors could work... On 2/20/22 11:07, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I like money more than political ideologies. I am a greedy, naked capitalist, opportunist. I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, with a huge US flag or flying the stars and bars. I immediately categorize them and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage... While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle on many issues. Perhaps my age has something to do with it. I see more shades of gray now. When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher. From: Robert Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors Red white and blue? On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment. This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching world. I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all. What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 435-830-4306 cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench-blades.com www.terabitnetworks.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
So, my first work was doing various industrial programming jobs for the local sawmill. They had two company trucks which tended to get beat up/ scratched just because they spent a fair bit of time in the woods in areas without well cleared roads. As a result they ended up repainted fairly often just to prevent rust and the like. The first repaint was always into a color that exactly matched the color of the local dirt that they'd typically pick up in use. You could never tell they were dirty except the one had a pinstripe which would dissappear when covered with muck. So maybe "dirt'. On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, 10:17 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a > self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer > attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but > they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method > between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is > almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar > to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for > the micro trenching world. > > I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will > avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could > paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. > > I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone > else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not > sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota > orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was > truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. > > It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible > to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. > Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me > at all. > > What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? > > > > Chuck McCown > McCown Technology Corporation > 8401 N Commerce Dr > Lake Point, Utah 84074 > 801-250-9503 > 435-830-4306 cell > www.mccowntech.com > www.microtrench-blades.com > www.terabitnetworks.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
I do like the nutsack idea. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 20, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > > I cringe when I see implements painted red white and blue, it inevitably > means theres an oversized diesel with a steel nutsack hanging off the hitch > somewhere nearby, and probably a low production crew hungover operating it. > > Paint it rust color so it always looks new > >> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> I like money more than political ideologies. I am a greedy, naked >> capitalist, opportunist. >> >> I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But >> some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. Just like I >> judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, with a huge US flag or flying >> the stars and bars. I immediately categorize them and start to plan my >> escape in the event of road rage... >> >> While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle on >> many issues. Perhaps my age has something to do with it. I see more shades >> of gray now. When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher. >> >> From: Robert >> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM >> To: af@af.afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors >> >> Red white and blue? >> >> >> On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> >> I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a self >> propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer >> attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but >> they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method >> between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is >> almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar >> to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for >> the micro trenching world. >> >> I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will >> avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could >> paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. >> >> I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone >> else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not >> sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota >> orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was >> truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. >> >> It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible to >> keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. >> Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at >> all. >> >> What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? >> >> >> >> Chuck McCown >> McCown Technology Corporation >> 8401 N Commerce Dr >> Lake Point, Utah 84074 >> 801-250-9503 >> 435-830-4306 cell >> www.mccowntech.com >> www.microtrench-blades.com >> www.terabitnetworks.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
I cringe when I see implements painted red white and blue, it inevitably means theres an oversized diesel with a steel nutsack hanging off the hitch somewhere nearby, and probably a low production crew hungover operating it. Paint it rust color so it always looks new On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 1:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I like money more than political ideologies. I am a greedy, naked > capitalist, opportunist. > > I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But > some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. Just like > I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, with a huge US flag or flying > the stars and bars. I immediately categorize them and start to plan my > escape in the event of road rage... > > While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle > on many issues. Perhaps my age has something to do with it. I see more > shades of gray now. When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher. > > From: Robert > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors > > Red white and blue? > > > On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a > self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer > attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but > they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method > between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is > almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar > to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for > the micro trenching world. > > I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will > avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could > paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. > > I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone > else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not > sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota > orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was > truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. > > It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible > to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. > Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me > at all. > > What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? > > > > Chuck McCown > McCown Technology Corporation > 8401 N Commerce Dr > Lake Point, Utah 84074 > 801-250-9503 > 435-830-4306 cell > www.mccowntech.com > www.microtrench-blades.com > www.terabitnetworks.com > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
All my dad’s farm trucks were baby blue. Kinda a family brand. My youngest son who is taking over the manufacturing operation is suggesting that. I have never seen a baby blue piece of construction equipment. I wonder if it connotes softness, weakness? It would not show the spatter very much. I guess we could do two tone with more of a royal blue like my logo. From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 12:07 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors I like money more than political ideologies. I am a greedy, naked capitalist, opportunist. I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, with a huge US flag or flying the stars and bars. I immediately categorize them and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage... While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle on many issues. Perhaps my age has something to do with it. I see more shades of gray now. When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher. From: Robert Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors Red white and blue? On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching world. I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all. What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 435-830-4306 cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench-blades.com www.terabitnetworks.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
I like money more than political ideologies. I am a greedy, naked capitalist, opportunist. I am sure some would buy it just because it was red white and blue. But some would brand me some kind of alt right company I am afraid. Just like I judge a large pick up truck, rollin’ coal, with a huge US flag or flying the stars and bars. I immediately categorize them and start to plan my escape in the event of road rage... While I sometimes am a sympathizer to the right, I am more in the middle on many issues. Perhaps my age has something to do with it. I see more shades of gray now. When I was young, I was almost a John Bircher. From: Robert Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:26 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors Red white and blue? On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching world. I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all. What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 435-830-4306 cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench-blades.com www.terabitnetworks.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
The spatter and grime is mostly a grout that dries a very light gray color. So trying to choose a lighter color to minimize the contrast. From: Kerry Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:53 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors Red, black and blue. Black for all the stuff that'll get grimy, cylinders and such. Blue for outline colors, maybe frame color etc, red for logos and stuff you want to stand out my .02, for what it's worth. - Original Message - From: Robert [mailto:i...@avantwireless.com To: Sent: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 10:26:06 -0800 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors Red white and blue? On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching world. I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all. What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 435-830-4306 cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench-blades.com www.terabitnetworks.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Red, black and blue. Black for all the stuff that'll get grimy, cylinders and such. Blue for outline colors, maybe frame color etc, red for logos and stuff you want to stand out my .02, for what it's worth. - Original Message - From: Robert [mailto:i...@avantwireless.com] To: <af@af.afmug.com> Sent: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 10:26:06 -0800 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors Red white and blue? On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching world. I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all. What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 435-830-4306 cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench-blades.com www.terabitnetworks.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Red white and blue? On 2/20/22 9:16 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment. This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching world. I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all. What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 435-830-4306 cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench-blades.com www.terabitnetworks.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
Trying to avoid dark colors like barn red. I would love to paint it like LA Rams helmets. But I don't want the extra work of two tone. White to me says generic. -Original Message- From: Andrew Haninger Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:39 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors How about barn red? Or "hammertone green" like a Stanley thermos? I wouldn't think about it too much. Do people pick industrial or agricultural machinery based on which one's color speaks to them? Or based on name and reputation? If it really is good quality, the color won't make it work any better, and maybe you don't want the customers who buy based on the color of the thing, anyway. Andy On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 12:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a self propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but they both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method between the grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro trenching world. I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible to keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. Could paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all. What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 435-830-4306 cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench-blades.com www.terabitnetworks.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT Machinery colors
How about barn red? Or "hammertone green" like a Stanley thermos? I wouldn't think about it too much. Do people pick industrial or agricultural machinery based on which one's color speaks to them? Or based on name and reputation? If it really is good quality, the color won't make it work any better, and maybe you don't want the customers who buy based on the color of the thing, anyway. Andy On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 12:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > I have a new product, larger than anything I have made before. It is a self > propelled grout mixer similar to the Ditch Witch R300 with a 1CM mixer > attachment. I have some significant improvements over their product but they > both do the same thing and look a bit similar. Our attach method between the > grout mixing tub attachment and the rest of the machine is almost identical > to DW to allow interchangeability between brands. Similar to a universal > skid steer attachment.This is a high demand machine for the micro > trenching world. > > I am at the point where I have to choose a color for the machine. I will > avoid Ditch Witch colors. The John Deere trademark decision says I could > paint it green but not the same green with yellow of JD equipment. > > I hate to paint it the generic cat/JD/vermeer type of yellow that everyone > else seems to use. It is not agricultural so probably not JD green. Not > sure if Ford blue communicates solid USA made good stuff. Thinking Kubota > orange, but does that communicate inferior Kubota? Years ago Kubota was > truly inferior but now-a days they make good stuff. > > It will soon get lots of grout spatter on the outside. Almost impossible to > keep these things spotless. So darker colors will emphasize the mess. Could > paint it concrete gray to minimize that but that does not excite me at all. > > What color makes you think “solid, American Made, durable, good value”? > > > > Chuck McCown > McCown Technology Corporation > 8401 N Commerce Dr > Lake Point, Utah 84074 > 801-250-9503 > 435-830-4306 cell > www.mccowntech.com > www.microtrench-blades.com > www.terabitnetworks.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com