Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

[Cameron Crum]

Safety glasses are cheap insurance. If you buy them in bulk they are less
than $1/pair. A good buddy of  mine who restores classic cars for a living
was using a bench mounted buffer to clean up a headlight bezel. No safety
glasses, because no sparks. He lost his grip for a split second and the
buffing pad caught the edge of the bezel, ran it once around and shot it
right at his eye. Sliced his cheek, eyebrow, and eyeball open. 3 surgeries
to correct and he ruined his 20/20 vision. It only takes a second.

On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 1:41 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> I carry extra safety glasses, safety vests and gloves ...too much danger
> at water company sites.   Don't want to see anyone hurt regardless of their
> lack of professionalism...I sleep better at night
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 1:07 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:
>
>> We provide our employees an orange vest and hard hat.  We tell them they
>> need steel toed boots.
>> We don’t provide safety glasses.
>>
>> Had a new guy work 7 hours and quit a couple of weeks ago.  Today he
>> calls and claims an eye injury from mud during potholing.  Threatening
>> legal action, called my wife a F.. C...
>>
>> (He did not report the injury to anyone at the time.  We are starting
>> workers compensation process just in case.  Not sure he even went to the
>> doctor).
>>
>> I called him and we had an interesting conversation.  He was on speaker
>> phone, Jenny was standing here, I recorded it.  Was an asshole but I
>> convinced him to do the right thing. He apologized.
>>
>> Pretty sure he did not want what was going to come next if he did not
>> apologize.
>>
>> Do y’all provide safety glasses?  I think we will start now.  Potholing
>> does spray mud.  And they are cheap.
>>
>> I was fixin’ to go to jail a half hour ago.   Fun day...
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Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

[Jaime Solorza]

I carry extra safety glasses, safety vests and gloves ...too much danger at
water company sites.   Don't want to see anyone hurt regardless of their
lack of professionalism...I sleep better at night

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 1:07 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> We provide our employees an orange vest and hard hat.  We tell them they
> need steel toed boots.
> We don’t provide safety glasses.
>
> Had a new guy work 7 hours and quit a couple of weeks ago.  Today he calls
> and claims an eye injury from mud during potholing.  Threatening legal
> action, called my wife a F.. C...
>
> (He did not report the injury to anyone at the time.  We are starting
> workers compensation process just in case.  Not sure he even went to the
> doctor).
>
> I called him and we had an interesting conversation.  He was on speaker
> phone, Jenny was standing here, I recorded it.  Was an asshole but I
> convinced him to do the right thing. He apologized.
>
> Pretty sure he did not want what was going to come next if he did not
> apologize.
>
> Do y’all provide safety glasses?  I think we will start now.  Potholing
> does spray mud.  And they are cheap.
>
> I was fixin’ to go to jail a half hour ago.   Fun day...
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Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

[Chuck McCown via AF]

It is a messy job.  We have switched to air knives in some situations.  The 
cost of an air knife was so crazy I made my own for 10% of what you can buy 
them for.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 10:35 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

vacuum excavation sounds like a real party


On 12/24/2020 9:43 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:

  For vac ex crew you might look into some of the goggles that dirt bike racers 
and the like use with plastic tear-offs to clear the mud. When I have run the 
vac to be honest I found safety glasses too annoying to use because they got 
dirty in about 10 seconds and once you're covered in mud there's nothing to 
wipe them clean with. 

  On Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 3:07 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

We provide our employees an orange vest and hard hat.  We tell them they 
need steel toed boots.
We don’t provide safety glasses.  

Had a new guy work 7 hours and quit a couple of weeks ago.  Today he calls 
and claims an eye injury from mud during potholing.  Threatening legal action, 
called my wife a F.. C...

(He did not report the injury to anyone at the time.  We are starting 
workers compensation process just in case.  Not sure he even went to the 
doctor).

I called him and we had an interesting conversation.  He was on speaker 
phone, Jenny was standing here, I recorded it.  Was an asshole but I convinced 
him to do the right thing. He apologized.  

Pretty sure he did not want what was going to come next if he did not 
apologize.  

Do y’all provide safety glasses?  I think we will start now.  Potholing 
does spray mud.  And they are cheap. 

I was fixin’ to go to jail a half hour ago.   Fun day...
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Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

[Adam Moffett]

vacuum excavation sounds like a real party

On 12/24/2020 9:43 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
For vac ex crew you might look into some of the goggles that dirt bike 
racers and the like use with plastic tear-offs to clear the mud. When 
I have run the vac to be honest I found safety glasses too annoying to 
use because they got dirty in about 10 seconds and once you're covered 
in mud there's nothing to wipe them clean with.


On Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 3:07 PM Chuck McCown via AF > wrote:


We provide our employees an orange vest and hard hat.  We tell
them they need steel toed boots.
We don’t provide safety glasses.
Had a new guy work 7 hours and quit a couple of weeks ago.  Today
he calls and claims an eye injury from mud during potholing. 
Threatening legal action, called my wife a F.. C...
(He did not report the injury to anyone at the time.  We are
starting workers compensation process just in case.  Not sure he
even went to the doctor).
I called him and we had an interesting conversation.  He was on
speaker phone, Jenny was standing here, I recorded it.  Was an
asshole but I convinced him to do the right thing. He apologized.
Pretty sure he did not want what was going to come next if he did
not apologize.
Do y’all provide safety glasses?  I think we will start now. 
Potholing does spray mud.  And they are cheap.
I was fixin’ to go to jail a half hour ago.   Fun day...
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Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

[Chris Fabien]

For vac ex crew you might look into some of the goggles that dirt bike
racers and the like use with plastic tear-offs to clear the mud. When I
have run the vac to be honest I found safety glasses too annoying to use
because they got dirty in about 10 seconds and once you're covered in mud
there's nothing to wipe them clean with.

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 3:07 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> We provide our employees an orange vest and hard hat.  We tell them they
> need steel toed boots.
> We don’t provide safety glasses.
>
> Had a new guy work 7 hours and quit a couple of weeks ago.  Today he calls
> and claims an eye injury from mud during potholing.  Threatening legal
> action, called my wife a F.. C...
>
> (He did not report the injury to anyone at the time.  We are starting
> workers compensation process just in case.  Not sure he even went to the
> doctor).
>
> I called him and we had an interesting conversation.  He was on speaker
> phone, Jenny was standing here, I recorded it.  Was an asshole but I
> convinced him to do the right thing. He apologized.
>
> Pretty sure he did not want what was going to come next if he did not
> apologize.
>
> Do y’all provide safety glasses?  I think we will start now.  Potholing
> does spray mud.  And they are cheap.
>
> I was fixin’ to go to jail a half hour ago.   Fun day...
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Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

[Ken Hohhof]

If you search for the origin of the traditional toast “here’s mud in your eye”, 
there seem to be two competing explanations.

 

One is that it comes from horse racing, where all the jockeys except the leader 
will get mud kicked in their eye.

 

The other is that it comes from Jesus curing a blind man by rubbing mud in his 
eye.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/john/9?lang=eng

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:00 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

 

 

 

Wow..Merry Christmas.. lol :)

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Chuck McCown via AF <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>  

To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>  

Cc: Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 2:07 PM

Subject: [AFMUG] OT PPE

 

We provide our employees an orange vest and hard hat.  We tell them they need 
steel toed boots.

We don’t provide safety glasses.  

 

Had a new guy work 7 hours and quit a couple of weeks ago.  Today he calls and 
claims an eye injury from mud during potholing.  Threatening legal action, 
called my wife a F.. C...

 

(He did not report the injury to anyone at the time.  We are starting workers 
compensation process just in case.  Not sure he even went to the doctor).

 

I called him and we had an interesting conversation.  He was on speaker phone, 
Jenny was standing here, I recorded it.  Was an asshole but I convinced him to 
do the right thing. He apologized.  

 

Pretty sure he did not want what was going to come next if he did not 
apologize.  

 

Do y’all provide safety glasses?  I think we will start now.  Potholing does 
spray mud.  And they are cheap. 

 

I was fixin’ to go to jail a half hour ago.   Fun day...

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Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Wow..Merry Christmas.. lol :)


  - Original Message - 
  From: Chuck McCown via AF 
  To: af@af.afmug.com 
  Cc: Chuck McCown 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 2:07 PM
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT PPE


  We provide our employees an orange vest and hard hat.  We tell them they need 
steel toed boots.
  We don’t provide safety glasses.  

  Had a new guy work 7 hours and quit a couple of weeks ago.  Today he calls 
and claims an eye injury from mud during potholing.  Threatening legal action, 
called my wife a F.. C...

  (He did not report the injury to anyone at the time.  We are starting workers 
compensation process just in case.  Not sure he even went to the doctor).

  I called him and we had an interesting conversation.  He was on speaker 
phone, Jenny was standing here, I recorded it.  Was an asshole but I convinced 
him to do the right thing. He apologized.  

  Pretty sure he did not want what was going to come next if he did not 
apologize.  

  Do y’all provide safety glasses?  I think we will start now.  Potholing does 
spray mud.  And they are cheap. 

  I was fixin’ to go to jail a half hour ago.   Fun day...


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Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

[Chuck McCown via AF]

I just discovered one of the team leaders tells all new hires where the safety 
glasses are and to get some.  He specifically remembers telling this guy to get 
some.  But we are making it part of the “onboarding” process.  Adding it to the 
paper they sign saying they got PPE.  

It was satisfying getting him to knuckle under and apologize with just my 
winning personality...

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 5:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

Eye protection is an employer responsibility.  
Calling a mans wife those words mitigates all that.
If a random plane ticket were to show up here with a street address on a piece 
of paper, he could have his eyes examined. It's best to get the whole thing out 
so a guy can get a real good look at the entire eye. It's about being thorough 

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 5:47 PM Dave  wrote:

  Sounds like the rest of the world... Im entitled to everything.. Me me me!



  On 12/23/2020 2:07 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

We provide our employees an orange vest and hard hat.  We tell them they 
need steel toed boots.
We don’t provide safety glasses.  

Had a new guy work 7 hours and quit a couple of weeks ago.  Today he calls 
and claims an eye injury from mud during potholing.  Threatening legal action, 
called my wife a F.. C...

(He did not report the injury to anyone at the time.  We are starting 
workers compensation process just in case.  Not sure he even went to the 
doctor).

I called him and we had an interesting conversation.  He was on speaker 
phone, Jenny was standing here, I recorded it.  Was an asshole but I convinced 
him to do the right thing. He apologized.  

Pretty sure he did not want what was going to come next if he did not 
apologize.  

Do y’all provide safety glasses?  I think we will start now.  Potholing 
does spray mud.  And they are cheap. 

I was fixin’ to go to jail a half hour ago.   Fun day...

 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

[Steve Jones]

Eye protection is an employer responsibility.
Calling a mans wife those words mitigates all that.
If a random plane ticket were to show up here with a street address on a
piece of paper, he could have his eyes examined. It's best to get the whole
thing out so a guy can get a real good look at the entire eye. It's about
being thorough

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 5:47 PM Dave  wrote:

> Sounds like the rest of the world... Im entitled to everything.. Me me me!
>
>
> On 12/23/2020 2:07 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> We provide our employees an orange vest and hard hat.  We tell them they
> need steel toed boots.
> We don’t provide safety glasses.
>
> Had a new guy work 7 hours and quit a couple of weeks ago.  Today he calls
> and claims an eye injury from mud during potholing.  Threatening legal
> action, called my wife a F.. C...
>
> (He did not report the injury to anyone at the time.  We are starting
> workers compensation process just in case.  Not sure he even went to the
> doctor).
>
> I called him and we had an interesting conversation.  He was on speaker
> phone, Jenny was standing here, I recorded it.  Was an asshole but I
> convinced him to do the right thing. He apologized.
>
> Pretty sure he did not want what was going to come next if he did not
> apologize.
>
> Do y’all provide safety glasses?  I think we will start now.  Potholing
> does spray mud.  And they are cheap.
>
> I was fixin’ to go to jail a half hour ago.   Fun day...
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

[Ken Hohhof]

Saying bad things about your wife reminds me of an old joke.

 

Boss:  Where are you from?

Employee:  Canada.

Boss:  Why did you leave Canada?

Employee:  There’s nothing up there but whores and hockey players.

Boss:  My wife is from Canada.

Employee:  What team did she play for?

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 5:46 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

 

Sounds like the rest of the world... Im entitled to everything.. Me me me!

 

On 12/23/2020 2:07 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

We provide our employees an orange vest and hard hat.  We tell them they need 
steel toed boots.

We don’t provide safety glasses.  

 

Had a new guy work 7 hours and quit a couple of weeks ago.  Today he calls and 
claims an eye injury from mud during potholing.  Threatening legal action, 
called my wife a F.. C...

 

(He did not report the injury to anyone at the time.  We are starting workers 
compensation process just in case.  Not sure he even went to the doctor).

 

I called him and we had an interesting conversation.  He was on speaker phone, 
Jenny was standing here, I recorded it.  Was an asshole but I convinced him to 
do the right thing. He apologized.  

 

Pretty sure he did not want what was going to come next if he did not 
apologize.  

 

Do y’all provide safety glasses?  I think we will start now.  Potholing does 
spray mud.  And they are cheap. 

 

I was fixin’ to go to jail a half hour ago.   Fun day...





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Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

[Dave]

Sounds like the rest of the world... Im entitled to everything.. Me me me!


On 12/23/2020 2:07 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
We provide our employees an orange vest and hard hat.  We tell them 
they need steel toed boots.

We don’t provide safety glasses.
Had a new guy work 7 hours and quit a couple of weeks ago.  Today he 
calls and claims an eye injury from mud during potholing.  Threatening 
legal action, called my wife a F.. C...
(He did not report the injury to anyone at the time.  We are starting 
workers compensation process just in case.  Not sure he even went to 
the doctor).
I called him and we had an interesting conversation.  He was on 
speaker phone, Jenny was standing here, I recorded it.  Was an asshole 
but I convinced him to do the right thing. He apologized.
Pretty sure he did not want what was going to come next if he did not 
apologize.
Do y’all provide safety glasses?  I think we will start now.  
Potholing does spray mud.  And they are cheap.

I was fixin’ to go to jail a half hour ago.   Fun day...

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