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Exclusive: Microwave Maven Exalt is Cooked
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Dan Jones, Mobile Editor

9/22/2014
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Microwave maven Exalt Communications appears to have shut up shop after 10
years in the backhaul business, Light Reading has learned.

Industry sources say Exalt Communications Inc.
has gone
under. The company was started in 2004 by Western Multiplex president Amir
Zoufonoun, who acted as CEO from the beginning, and was focused on selling
microwave backhaul to mobile operators and wireless ISPs. (See Exalt Beams
Up Microwaves

and US Wireless ISPs: What's on Their Minds?

)

Multiple calls by Light Reading to the Campbell, Calif.-based company's
main switchboard were sent straight to voicemail Monday afternoon. The
customer care support line also goes to voicemail.

"Their office doesn't seem to be open...doors closed and parking lot
empty," says one source, who had heard the company may be undergoing a
change of ownership.

Pam Valentine, VP of outbound marketing at Exalt, meanwhile, is still
listed on the website as the media contact for the company, but left this
month, according to her LinkedIn
profile. She has
not responded to calls or an email from Light Reading as this article was
published.

--
Hey, backhaul sounds like a fun business to be in doesn't it? Find out more
by visiting Light Reading's dedicated backhaul channel.

The company's last update on its own LinkedIn page was 5 months ago and its
last press release was issued on July 16.

CEO Zoufonoun, however, is still currently listed as the head of the
company on his LinkedIn

profile.

The company had raised almost $30 million in VC funding. The last $15
million series C round was closed in February 2009.

On its website the company, which competes with the likes of Ceragon
Networks Ltd.
(Nasdaq: CRNT), DragonWave Inc.

(AIM/Toronto: DWI; Nasdaq: DRWI) and Siklu Communications Ltd.
among
others, claims to have more than 2,000 customers globally, though it seems
many of these may be enterprise customers and very small ISPs. (See Exalt
Raises $15M .)

We'll update the story with any further details that come in.

— Dan Jones, Mobile Editor, Light Reading

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

2014-09-22 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af

Loose lips sink ships...sh

Jaime Solorza
On Sep 22, 2014 6:37 PM, "Eric Kuhnke via Af"  wrote:

> The current Harris (the defence contractor) is a totally separate company
> from Aviat.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af 
> wrote:
>
>> I worked for division of Harris in mid 80s.  Pricey gear but solid.  Used
>> by military and cellcos
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> On Sep 22, 2014 3:49 PM, "Chuck McCown via Af"  wrote:
>>
>>>   Yeah, Chapter 11 being the same as reorganization is sometimes true.
>>> It is all Jargon.  Here is something about the different meanings in
>>> different context:
>>>
>>> *JARGON*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you give the command *"SECURE THE BUILDING"*, here is what the
>>> different services would do:
>>>
>>> The *NAVY* would turn out the lights, shut off the power, drain the
>>> water lines, lock the doors and posts regular 12 hour watches.
>>>
>>> The *ARMY* would surround the building with defensive fortifications,
>>> tanks and concertina wire.
>>>
>>> The *MARINE CORPS* would assault the building, kill everyone inside and
>>> set up a command post.
>>>
>>> The *AIR FORCE* would take out a three-year lease with an option to buy
>>> the building.
>>>
>>> The *COAST GUARD* would enter the building, give it a safety
>>> inspection, find drugs confiscate the building and contents and arrest
>>> those inside.
>>>
>>> The *MERCHANT MARINE* would enter the building, befriend the occupants,
>>> find drugs and alcohol, horse trade for drugs and alcohol, have a raging
>>> party for two days and leave.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Tushar Patel via Af 
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 2:49 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?
>>>
>>>
>>> So maybe it not called chapter 11, but whatever the reorg is called.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tushar Patel
>>>
>>> 512-257-1077
>>>
>>> www.westernbroadband.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of 
>>> *Tushar
>>> Patel via Af
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 3:47 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I posted following last week, that came directly from one of the sales
>>> rep,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “
>>>
>>> Tushar,
>>>
>>> Message from our CEO...
>>>
>>> "We have gone through a major reorganization and change of ownership
>>>
>>> over the past week. However, the nature of our business stays the same
>>>
>>> as before.  Same products, same markets and applications.  We apologize
>>>
>>> for any inconvenience or business disruption this may have caused you.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your patience, understanding, and support during this
>>>
>>> rather extraordinary period of our evolution.  We are confident we will
>>>
>>> reemerge stronger, more competitive, and better than ever before."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So we're in business and moving forward.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tushar Patel
>>>
>>> 512-257-1077
>>>
>>> www.westernbroadband.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com
>>> ] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>>> via Af
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 3:27 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Would like to know as well
>>>
>>> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
>>> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
>>>
>>> On 09/22/2014 12:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
>>>
>>>  from what source are you seeing that Exalt has gone chapter 11?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
>>> three company that is making the radios now.
>>>
>>> 1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
>>> 2) Ceragon
>>> 3) Aviat
>>>
>>> Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?
>>>
>>> Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tushar Patel
>>> 512-257-1077
>>> www.westernbroadband.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

The current Harris (the defence contractor) is a totally separate company
from Aviat.



On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af  wrote:

> I worked for division of Harris in mid 80s.  Pricey gear but solid.  Used
> by military and cellcos
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Sep 22, 2014 3:49 PM, "Chuck McCown via Af"  wrote:
>
>>   Yeah, Chapter 11 being the same as reorganization is sometimes true.
>> It is all Jargon.  Here is something about the different meanings in
>> different context:
>>
>> *JARGON*
>>
>>
>>
>> If you give the command *"SECURE THE BUILDING"*, here is what the
>> different services would do:
>>
>> The *NAVY* would turn out the lights, shut off the power, drain the
>> water lines, lock the doors and posts regular 12 hour watches.
>>
>> The *ARMY* would surround the building with defensive fortifications,
>> tanks and concertina wire.
>>
>> The *MARINE CORPS* would assault the building, kill everyone inside and
>> set up a command post.
>>
>> The *AIR FORCE* would take out a three-year lease with an option to buy
>> the building.
>>
>> The *COAST GUARD* would enter the building, give it a safety inspection,
>> find drugs confiscate the building and contents and arrest those inside.
>>
>> The *MERCHANT MARINE* would enter the building, befriend the occupants,
>> find drugs and alcohol, horse trade for drugs and alcohol, have a raging
>> party for two days and leave.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Tushar Patel via Af 
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 2:49 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?
>>
>>
>> So maybe it not called chapter 11, but whatever the reorg is called.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tushar Patel
>>
>> 512-257-1077
>>
>> www.westernbroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of 
>> *Tushar
>> Patel via Af
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 3:47 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?
>>
>>
>>
>> I posted following last week, that came directly from one of the sales
>> rep,
>>
>>
>>
>> “
>>
>> Tushar,
>>
>> Message from our CEO...
>>
>> "We have gone through a major reorganization and change of ownership
>>
>> over the past week. However, the nature of our business stays the same
>>
>> as before.  Same products, same markets and applications.  We apologize
>>
>> for any inconvenience or business disruption this may have caused you.
>>
>> Thank you for your patience, understanding, and support during this
>>
>> rather extraordinary period of our evolution.  We are confident we will
>>
>> reemerge stronger, more competitive, and better than ever before."
>>
>>
>>
>> So we're in business and moving forward.”
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tushar Patel
>>
>> 512-257-1077
>>
>> www.westernbroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds via
>> Af
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 3:27 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?
>>
>>
>>
>> Would like to know as well
>>
>> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
>> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
>>
>> On 09/22/2014 12:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
>>
>>  from what source are you seeing that Exalt has gone chapter 11?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af 
>> wrote:
>>
>> For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
>> three company that is making the radios now.
>>
>> 1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
>> 2) Ceragon
>> 3) Aviat
>>
>> Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?
>>
>> Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tushar Patel
>> 512-257-1077
>> www.westernbroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] New PMP beta load 13.2 Build 30 available!

2014-09-22 Thread timothy steele via Af

What beta version will put all the frequencies back in a 365 so we can do an AP 
EVal easily?—
Sent from Mailbox

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:38 PM, canopy01 via Af  wrote:

> Folks,
> PMP Beta load 13.2 Build 30 is now available for download and you can find it 
> here:
> https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450
>   *   Improvements for MIMO-A
>  *   PMP450 APs & SMs will now default to MIMO-A control message mode
>  *   If you have an interop sector (containing 430 SMs), you may need to 
> set this back to legacy SISO mode
> *   Configuration -> Radio -> PMP 430 Interop Mode, set to SISO
> *   This is only necessary if you have issues with existing PMP430's 
> reconnecting and should not be necessary in a majority of the cases.
>   *   Fix for missing "None" frequency option
>   *   Control Slots is now called Contention Slots
>   *   Addition of "Color Code Priority" column to the Session Status -> 
> Session tab
>  *   If Color Code Rescan option is enabled on the AP, and an SM is 
> registered via a non-primary color code, there will be a countdown for each 
> SM that will be rescanning due to this configuration.
>  *   If an SM is registered via Installation Color Code (ICC), this will 
> also be noted on the Session Status -> Device tab, Session column, next to 
> "In Session"
>   *   Added number of VCs in use next to Subscriber Count on the AP's main 
> page.  This number includes Broadcast and Multicast (if enabled) VCs.
>   *   Added support to NAT to handle fragments (to fix the FemtoCell issue)
>   *   Alignment tone fix
>   *   Various bug fixes
> Corey

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy

2014-09-22 Thread Seth Mattinen via Af


On 9/22/14, 17:08, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote:

What ant/radio is that?




I'm guessing a small Radiowaves.

~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] [FS} Form 447 Tool

2014-09-22 Thread SmarterBroadband via Af

Polygon KML?  Is this what comes out of RadioMobile?

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+lists=smarterbroadband@afmug.com] On Behalf
Of Dennis Burgess via Af
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] [FS} Form 447 Tool

Sorry for the non- Friday post but time is of the essence.

For those using towercoverage.com or those that have a poloygon KML file of
your coverage, we can covert those to your census block data within 48 hours
(usually very quick).
http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=681
 &idcategory=0 is the linkage.  This will get you the census block tract
information based on your actual coverage area..  

Thanks,

DennisBurgessSignature

www.linktechs.net - 314-735-0270 - dmburg...@linktechs.net

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

Harris makes awesome radios for the DoD. I've beta'd a few of their 
things, as well as had to use their gear while deployed.


Excellent stuff. The ANPRC-150 and ANPRC-152 are exceptional.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 09/22/2014 03:41 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af wrote:


I worked for division of Harris in mid 80s.  Pricey gear but solid.  
Used by military and cellcos


Jaime Solorza

On Sep 22, 2014 3:49 PM, "Chuck McCown via Af" > wrote:


Yeah, Chapter 11 being the same as reorganization is sometimes
true.  It is all Jargon.  Here is something about the different
meanings in different context:

*JARGON*

If you give the command*"SECURE THE BUILDING"*, here is what the
different services would do:

The*NAVY*would turn out the lights, shut off the power, drain the
water lines, lock the doors and posts regular 12 hour watches.

The*ARMY*would surround the building with defensive
fortifications, tanks and concertina wire.

The*MARINE CORPS*would assault the building, kill everyone inside
and set up a command post.

The*AIR FORCE*would take out a three-year lease with an option to
buy the building.

The*COAST GUARD*would enter the building, give it a safety
inspection, find drugs confiscate the building and contents and
arrest those inside.

The*MERCHANT MARINE*would enter the building, befriend the
occupants, find drugs and alcohol, horse trade for drugs and
alcohol, have a raging party for two days and leave.

*From:* Tushar Patel via Af 
*Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 2:49 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

So maybe it not called chapter 11, but whatever the reorg is called.

Thanks,

Tushar Patel

512-257-1077 

www.westernbroadband.com 

*From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel
=ecpi@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Tushar Patel via Af
*Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 3:47 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

I posted following last week, that came directly from one of the
sales rep,

“

Tushar,

Message from our CEO...

"We have gone through a major reorganization and change of ownership

over the past week. However, the nature of our business stays the same

as before.  Same products, same markets and applications.  We
apologize

for any inconvenience or business disruption this may have caused you.

Thank you for your patience, understanding, and support during this

rather extraordinary period of our evolution.  We are confident we
will

reemerge stronger, more competitive, and better than ever before."

So we're in business and moving forward.”

Thanks,

Tushar Patel

512-257-1077 

www.westernbroadband.com 

*From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com] *On Behalf
Of *Josh Reynolds via Af
*Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 3:27 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

Would like to know as well

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 09/22/2014 12:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:

from what source are you seeing that Exalt has gone chapter 11?

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af
mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:

For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have
found only
three company that is making the radios now.

1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
2) Ceragon
3) Aviat

Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz
band?

Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?

Thanks,
Tushar Patel
512-257-1077 
www.westernbroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

2014-09-22 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af

I worked for division of Harris in mid 80s.  Pricey gear but solid.  Used
by military and cellcos

Jaime Solorza
On Sep 22, 2014 3:49 PM, "Chuck McCown via Af"  wrote:

>   Yeah, Chapter 11 being the same as reorganization is sometimes true.
> It is all Jargon.  Here is something about the different meanings in
> different context:
>
> *JARGON*
>
>
>
> If you give the command *"SECURE THE BUILDING"*, here is what the
> different services would do:
>
> The *NAVY* would turn out the lights, shut off the power, drain the water
> lines, lock the doors and posts regular 12 hour watches.
>
> The *ARMY* would surround the building with defensive fortifications,
> tanks and concertina wire.
>
> The *MARINE CORPS* would assault the building, kill everyone inside and
> set up a command post.
>
> The *AIR FORCE* would take out a three-year lease with an option to buy
> the building.
>
> The *COAST GUARD* would enter the building, give it a safety inspection,
> find drugs confiscate the building and contents and arrest those inside.
>
> The *MERCHANT MARINE* would enter the building, befriend the occupants,
> find drugs and alcohol, horse trade for drugs and alcohol, have a raging
> party for two days and leave.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  *From:* Tushar Patel via Af 
> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 2:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?
>
>
> So maybe it not called chapter 11, but whatever the reorg is called.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tushar Patel
>
> 512-257-1077
>
> www.westernbroadband.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Tushar
> Patel via Af
> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 3:47 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?
>
>
>
> I posted following last week, that came directly from one of the sales
> rep,
>
>
>
> “
>
> Tushar,
>
> Message from our CEO...
>
> "We have gone through a major reorganization and change of ownership
>
> over the past week. However, the nature of our business stays the same
>
> as before.  Same products, same markets and applications.  We apologize
>
> for any inconvenience or business disruption this may have caused you.
>
> Thank you for your patience, understanding, and support during this
>
> rather extraordinary period of our evolution.  We are confident we will
>
> reemerge stronger, more competitive, and better than ever before."
>
>
>
> So we're in business and moving forward.”
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tushar Patel
>
> 512-257-1077
>
> www.westernbroadband.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds via
> Af
> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 3:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?
>
>
>
> Would like to know as well
>
> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
>
> On 09/22/2014 12:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
>
>  from what source are you seeing that Exalt has gone chapter 11?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af  wrote:
>
> For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
> three company that is making the radios now.
>
> 1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
> 2) Ceragon
> 3) Aviat
>
> Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?
>
> Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?
>
> Thanks,
> Tushar Patel
> 512-257-1077
> www.westernbroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] [FS} Form 447 Tool

2014-09-22 Thread Dennis Burgess via Af

Sorry for the non- Friday post but time is of the essence.

 

For those using towercoverage.com or those that have a poloygon KML file
of your coverage, we can covert those to your census block data within
48 hours (usually very quick).   
http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=681&idcate
gory=0 is the linkage.  This will get you the census block tract
information based on your actual coverage area..  

 

Thanks,

 

 

www.linktechs.net - 314-735-0270 - dmburg...@linktechs.net

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 100 - Dysfunctional Rube Goldberg

Only the big boys play here, a few bruises never hurt anyone...

From: Mike Hammett via Af 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:52 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 100 - Dysfunctional Rube Goldberg

I went to Rolling Meadows and there's an issue in the assembly from the 
factory. It's easily correctable in the field by loosening the four screws 
around the feedhorn hole on the mount. Straight up the two pieces, then tighten 
it back down. They're working on a factory process to resolve this. The 
feedhorn should just slide right in without much effort. If it takes effort, 
look to see if everythign is lining up. If you muscle the feedhorn too much, 
you may damage it, producing less than expected RF performance.

Cambium was *very* warm regarding my criticism. Took notes. Looked at the 
product to see why it wasn't working. Assembled the four remaining units (and 
saw more issues). I talked to a few different people about my concerns. They 
thanked me for bringing the issue to their attention. No one said so, but I'd 
imagine they would have appreciated it if I wasn't so rampant in my complaints. 
 ;-) They also took my commentary about what I think about other aspects of the 
line, not just that issue.

I'm not going to drive to San Francisco or Latvia to air my complaints to them, 
so they'll have to fly me out.  ;-)

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:28:17 AM
Subject: Cambium Force 100 - Dysfunctional Rube Goldberg

Does anyone know why the Force 100 has not been recalled for being an 
absolutely dreadful product? I think the designers of the Force 100 looked at 
the NanoBridge and said how can we make this worse. *slow clap* Give them a 
bonus for they succeeded. I bought 12 units because of an emergency and now I'm 
not sure how far I'll be able to go as I surely won't be able to get the 
required 10 units even assembled.

  1.. Why so much assembly?

  2.. I'm reminded of 2004 by the amount of coax that needs to be sealed. 
Ubiquiti got it right with IP67 connectors and those little rubber boots on the 
Rockets. 
  3.. If we're sealing the coax on the radio, why the rubber boot and zip ties? 
Surely they aren't more at risk than the N connectors on the antenna.

  4.. That feedhorn assembly is the worst! Does everything look stable? Yup. 
Okay, screw in the set screws. Check. Everything look good? Feedhorn falls out. 
WTF. Oh, apparently it wasn't all the way in. Try again. No. Try again. No. Try 
again? Can't because by now the set screws are striped and I can't get them 
out. I can't blame them for they should only be fastened once. Try another 
unit. Nope, this feedhorn just won't go all the way in. Now I'm not certain 
that the first two that actually went together are together correctly. Yes, I 
separated the dish from the mount in an attempt to 

  5.. I like the flexibility of the mount, but that is just a massive hunk of 
steel and too complex for a CPE. 
  6.. Is the idea of a simple clip like the Rocket too easy? Did someone need a 
science project?

  7.. For the record, I have correctly assembled (on the first try) a few 
Jirous dishes and they're a bear.
Can I drive them all up to Rolling Ghettos today and have you guys assemble 
them for me? I need them actually operational by the AM.

-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 100 - Dysfunctional Rube Goldberg


Well done.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 09/22/2014 02:52 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
I went to Rolling Meadows and there's an issue in the assembly from 
the factory. It's easily correctable in the field by loosening the 
four screws around the feedhorn hole on the mount. Straight up the two 
pieces, then tighten it back down. They're working on a factory 
process to resolve this. The feedhorn should just slide right in 
without much effort. If it takes effort, look to see if everythign is 
lining up. If you muscle the feedhorn too much, you may damage it, 
producing less than expected RF performance.


Cambium was *very* warm regarding my criticism. Took notes. Looked at 
the product to see why it wasn't working. Assembled the four remaining 
units (and saw more issues). I talked to a few different people about 
my concerns. They thanked me for bringing the issue to their 
attention. No one said so, but I'd imagine they would have appreciated 
it if I wasn't so rampant in my complaints.  ;-) They also took my 
commentary about what I think about other aspects of the line, not 
just that issue.


I'm not going to drive to San Francisco or Latvia to air my complaints 
to them, so they'll have to fly me out.  ;-)




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com




*From: *"Mike Hammett" 
*To: *"Animal Farm" 
*Sent: *Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:28:17 AM
*Subject: *Cambium Force 100 - Dysfunctional Rube Goldberg

Does anyone know why the Force 100 has not been recalled for being an 
absolutely dreadful product? I think the designers of the Force 100 
looked at the NanoBridge and said how can we make this worse. *slow 
clap* Give them a bonus for they succeeded. I bought 12 units because 
of an emergency and now I'm not sure how far I'll be able to go as I 
surely won't be able to get the required 10 units even assembled.


 1. Why so much assembly?
 2. I'm reminded of 2004 by the amount of coax that needs to be
sealed. Ubiquiti got it right with IP67 connectors and those
little rubber boots on the Rockets.
 3. If we're sealing the coax on the radio, why the rubber boot and
zip ties? Surely they aren't more at risk than the N connectors on
the antenna.
 4. That feedhorn assembly is the worst! Does everything look stable?
Yup. Okay, screw in the set screws. Check. Everything look good?
Feedhorn falls out. WTF. Oh, apparently it wasn't all the way in.
Try again. No. Try again. No. Try again? Can't because by now the
set screws are striped and I can't get them out. I can't blame
them for they should only be fastened once. Try another unit.
Nope, this feedhorn just won't go all the way in. Now I'm not
certain that the first two that actually went together are
together correctly. Yes, I separated the dish from the mount in an
attempt to
 5. I like the flexibility of the mount, but that is just a massive
hunk of steel and too complex for a CPE.
 6. Is the idea of a simple clip like the Rocket too easy? Did someone
need a science project?
 7. For the record, I have correctly assembled (on the first try) a
few Jirous dishes and they're a bear.

Can I drive them all up to Rolling Ghettos today and have you guys 
assemble them for me? I need them actually operational by the AM.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Force 100 - Dysfunctional Rube Goldberg

2014-09-22 Thread Mike Hammett via Af

I went to Rolling Meadows and there's an issue in the assembly from the 
factory. It's easily correctable in the field by loosening the four screws 
around the feedhorn hole on the mount. Straight up the two pieces, then tighten 
it back down. They're working on a factory process to resolve this. The 
feedhorn should just slide right in without much effort. If it takes effort, 
look to see if everythign is lining up. If you muscle the feedhorn too much, 
you may damage it, producing less than expected RF performance. 

Cambium was *very* warm regarding my criticism. Took notes. Looked at the 
product to see why it wasn't working. Assembled the four remaining units (and 
saw more issues). I talked to a few different people about my concerns. They 
thanked me for bringing the issue to their attention. No one said so, but I'd 
imagine they would have appreciated it if I wasn't so rampant in my complaints. 
;-) They also took my commentary about what I think about other aspects of the 
line, not just that issue. 

I'm not going to drive to San Francisco or Latvia to air my complaints to them, 
so they'll have to fly me out. ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:28:17 AM 
Subject: Cambium Force 100 - Dysfunctional Rube Goldberg 


Does anyone know why the Force 100 has not been recalled for being an 
absolutely dreadful product? I think the designers of the Force 100 looked at 
the NanoBridge and said how can we make this worse. *slow clap* Give them a 
bonus for they succeeded. I bought 12 units because of an emergency and now I'm 
not sure how far I'll be able to go as I surely won't be able to get the 
required 10 units even assembled. 



1. Why so much assembly? 
2. I'm reminded of 2004 by the amount of coax that needs to be sealed. 
Ubiquiti got it right with IP67 connectors and those little rubber boots on the 
Rockets. 
3. If we're sealing the coax on the radio, why the rubber boot and zip 
ties? Surely they aren't more at risk than the N connectors on the antenna. 
4. That feedhorn assembly is the worst! Does everything look stable? Yup. 
Okay, screw in the set screws. Check. Everything look good? Feedhorn falls out. 
WTF. Oh, apparently it wasn't all the way in. Try again. No. Try again. No. Try 
again? Can't because by now the set screws are striped and I can't get them 
out. I can't blame them for they should only be fastened once. Try another 
unit. Nope, this feedhorn just won't go all the way in. Now I'm not certain 
that the first two that actually went together are together correctly. Yes, I 
separated the dish from the mount in an attempt to 
5. I like the flexibility of the mount, but that is just a massive hunk of 
steel and too complex for a CPE. 
6. Is the idea of a simple clip like the Rocket too easy? Did someone need 
a science project? 
7. For the record, I have correctly assembled (on the first try) a few 
Jirous dishes and they're a bear. 

Can I drive them all up to Rolling Ghettos today and have you guys assemble 
them for me? I need them actually operational by the AM. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy

2014-09-22 Thread Mike Hammett via Af

Their announcement said it would time right in with Canopy. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: "Bill Prince via Af"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:15:47 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Force 100 beefy 


A little birdie mentioned to me that the Proxim gear will use the same 
timing products as Canopy, and if I heard right, that is via the serial 
timing cable or sync over power. 

Which then means that you can plug Proxim WORP stuff into CMM, CTM, or 
Packetflux timing things. 

bp 

On 9/17/2014 11:03 AM, Bill Prince via Af wrote: 
> George, you ought to be all over that new Proxim WORP stuff like white 
> on rice. They claim that it will sync with Canopy. 
> 
> 
> bp 
> 
> On 9/17/2014 10:41 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote: 
>> Is that 2.4 or 5GHz? A couple weeks ago someone asked why the 2.4 AP 
>> sector is slant and the integrated SMs are H/V. Cambium responded 
>> with an explanation, something about the SM detecting phases and 
>> doing its thing. 
>> 
>> Definitely looks like a Laird/Pac feed design. That has to be a pain 
>> to weather seal. 
>> 
>> When they get these things to sync with Canopy and get the PTP 
>> latency down, then I'll buy some. 
>> 
>> On 9/17/2014 9:22 AM, Greg Osborn via Af wrote: 
>>> We received our first shipment of ePMP Force 100's yesterday. 
>>> Pretty 
>>> beefy at 10 lbs. Quite a curious angle on the feed horn N-type 
>>> connections. 
>>> It would lead you to believe the antenna system is dual slant. All the 
>>> specs say H&V. 
>> 
>> 
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

Yeah, Chapter 11 being the same as reorganization is sometimes true.  It is all 
Jargon.  Here is something about the different meanings in different context:
JARGON



If you give the command "SECURE THE BUILDING", here is what the different 
services would do:

The NAVY would turn out the lights, shut off the power, drain the water lines, 
lock the doors and posts regular 12 hour watches.

The ARMY would surround the building with defensive fortifications, tanks and 
concertina wire.

The MARINE CORPS would assault the building, kill everyone inside and set up a 
command post.

The AIR FORCE would take out a three-year lease with an option to buy the 
building.

The COAST GUARD would enter the building, give it a safety inspection, find 
drugs confiscate the building and contents and arrest those inside.

The MERCHANT MARINE would enter the building, befriend the occupants, find 
drugs and alcohol, horse trade for drugs and alcohol, have a raging party for 
two days and leave.











From: Tushar Patel via Af 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

So maybe it not called chapter 11, but whatever the reorg is called.

 

Thanks,

Tushar Patel

512-257-1077

www.westernbroadband.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tushar 
Patel via Af
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

 

I posted following last week, that came directly from one of the sales rep, 

 

“

Tushar,

Message from our CEO...

"We have gone through a major reorganization and change of ownership

over the past week. However, the nature of our business stays the same

as before.  Same products, same markets and applications.  We apologize

for any inconvenience or business disruption this may have caused you.

Thank you for your patience, understanding, and support during this

rather extraordinary period of our evolution.  We are confident we will

reemerge stronger, more competitive, and better than ever before."

 

So we're in business and moving forward.”

 

 

 

Thanks,

Tushar Patel

512-257-1077

www.westernbroadband.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh 
Reynolds via Af
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

 

Would like to know as well

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

On 09/22/2014 12:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:

  from what source are you seeing that Exalt has gone chapter 11?

   

  On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af  wrote:

  For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
  three company that is making the radios now.

  1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
  2) Ceragon
  3) Aviat

  Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?

  Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?

  Thanks,
  Tushar Patel
  512-257-1077
  www.westernbroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

2014-09-22 Thread Bruce Robertson via Af

I searched the Pacer records for any sign of a bankruptcy filing, and 
came up empty.


On 09/22/2014 02:12 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
My spies inform me that this is a bit overblown, they’re doing some 
re-org and it sounds like the ownership is shifting due to varying 
levels of desired commitment by investors. I’m assured that they’re 
not closing the doors.

bp
On 9/22/2014 1:45 PM, Tushar Patel via Af wrote:


From Exalt  Sales Rep.

Thanks,

Tushar Patel

512-257-1077

www.westernbroadband.com 

*From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of 
*Eric Kuhnke via Af

*Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 3:22 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

from what source are you seeing that Exalt has gone chapter 11?

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af > wrote:


For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
three company that is making the radios now.

1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
2) Ceragon
3) Aviat

Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?

Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?

Thanks,
Tushar Patel
512-257-1077
www.westernbroadband.com 




!DSPAM:2,5420914841072924119!

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

2014-09-22 Thread Bill Prince via Af

My spies inform me that this is a bit overblown, they’re doing some 
re-org and it sounds like the ownership is shifting due to varying 
levels of desired commitment by investors. I’m assured that they’re not 
closing the doors.


bp

On 9/22/2014 1:45 PM, Tushar Patel via Af wrote:


From Exalt  Sales Rep.

Thanks,

Tushar Patel

512-257-1077

www.westernbroadband.com 

*From:*Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of 
*Eric Kuhnke via Af

*Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 3:22 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

from what source are you seeing that Exalt has gone chapter 11?

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af > wrote:


For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
three company that is making the radios now.

1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
2) Ceragon
3) Aviat

Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?

Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?

Thanks,
Tushar Patel
512-257-1077
www.westernbroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

So maybe it not called chapter 11, but whatever the reorg is called.

 

Thanks,

Tushar Patel

512-257-1077

  www.westernbroadband.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tushar 
Patel via Af
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

 

I posted following last week, that came directly from one of the sales rep, 

 

“

Tushar,

Message from our CEO...

"We have gone through a major reorganization and change of ownership

over the past week. However, the nature of our business stays the same

as before.  Same products, same markets and applications.  We apologize

for any inconvenience or business disruption this may have caused you.

Thank you for your patience, understanding, and support during this

rather extraordinary period of our evolution.  We are confident we will

reemerge stronger, more competitive, and better than ever before."

 

So we're in business and moving forward.”

 

 

 

Thanks,

Tushar Patel

512-257-1077

www.westernbroadband.com  

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh 
Reynolds via Af
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

 

Would like to know as well

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

On 09/22/2014 12:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:

from what source are you seeing that Exalt has gone chapter 11?

 

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af  wrote:

For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
three company that is making the radios now.

1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
2) Ceragon
3) Aviat

Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?

Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?

Thanks,
Tushar Patel
512-257-1077
www.westernbroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] New PMP beta load 13.2 Build 30 available!

2014-09-22 Thread Kade Sullivan via Af

Every single time I have to play "find the mac address that the system
actually accepts" I have genuine feelings of hatred...

Bought 2 APs within the last 6 months, neither mac works...



On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:38 AM, canopy01 via Af  wrote:

>  Folks,
>
>
>
> PMP Beta load 13.2 Build 30 is now available for download and you can find
> it here:
>
>
>
> https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450
>
>
>
>- Improvements for MIMO-A
>   - PMP450 APs & SMs will now default to MIMO-A control message mode
>   - If you have an interop sector (containing 430 SMs), you may need
>   to set this back to legacy SISO mode
>  - Configuration -> Radio -> PMP 430 Interop Mode, set to SISO
>  - This is only necessary if you have issues with existing
>  PMP430’s reconnecting and should not be necessary in a majority of 
> the
>  cases.
>- Fix for missing "None" frequency option
>- Control Slots is now called Contention Slots
>- Addition of "Color Code Priority" column to the Session Status ->
>Session tab
>   - If Color Code Rescan option is enabled on the AP, and an SM is
>   registered via a non-primary color code, there will be a countdown for 
> each
>   SM that will be rescanning due to this configuration.
>   - If an SM is registered via Installation Color Code (ICC), this
>   will also be noted on the Session Status -> Device tab, Session column,
>   next to "In Session"
>- Added number of VCs in use next to Subscriber Count on the AP's main
>page.  This number includes Broadcast and Multicast (if enabled) VCs.
>- Added support to NAT to handle fragments (to fix the FemtoCell issue)
>- Alignment tone fix
>- Various bug fixes
>
>
>
>
>
> Corey
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

I posted following last week, that came directly from one of the sales rep, 

 

“

Tushar,

Message from our CEO...

"We have gone through a major reorganization and change of ownership

over the past week. However, the nature of our business stays the same

as before.  Same products, same markets and applications.  We apologize

for any inconvenience or business disruption this may have caused you.

Thank you for your patience, understanding, and support during this

rather extraordinary period of our evolution.  We are confident we will

reemerge stronger, more competitive, and better than ever before."

 

So we're in business and moving forward.”

 

 

 

Thanks,

Tushar Patel

512-257-1077

  www.westernbroadband.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh 
Reynolds via Af
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

 

Would like to know as well

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

On 09/22/2014 12:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:

from what source are you seeing that Exalt has gone chapter 11?

 

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af  wrote:

For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
three company that is making the radios now.

1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
2) Ceragon
3) Aviat

Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?

Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?

Thanks,
Tushar Patel
512-257-1077
www.westernbroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

>From Exalt  Sales Rep.

 

Thanks,

Tushar Patel

512-257-1077

  www.westernbroadband.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+tpatel=ecpi@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke 
via Af
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

 

from what source are you seeing that Exalt has gone chapter 11?

 

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af  wrote:

For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
three company that is making the radios now.

1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
2) Ceragon
3) Aviat

Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?

Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?

Thanks,
Tushar Patel
512-257-1077
www.westernbroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

2014-09-22 Thread Gino Villarini via Af

Saf, real soon or so im told



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr



From: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Organization: SPITwSPOTS
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Monday, September 22, 2014 at 4:27 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

Would like to know as well

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

On 09/22/2014 12:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
from what source are you seeing that Exalt has gone chapter 11?

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af 
mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote:
For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
three company that is making the radios now.

1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
2) Ceragon
3) Aviat

Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?

Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?

Thanks,
Tushar Patel
512-257-1077
www.westernbroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?


Would like to know as well

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 09/22/2014 12:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:

from what source are you seeing that Exalt has gone chapter 11?

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af > wrote:


For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have
found only
three company that is making the radios now.

1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
2) Ceragon
3) Aviat

Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?

Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?

Thanks,
Tushar Patel
512-257-1077
www.westernbroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

2014-09-22 Thread Jon Langeler via Af

Alcoma. More will support it next year. 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Sep 22, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af  wrote:
> 
> For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
> three company that is making the radios now.
> 
> 1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
> 2) Ceragon
> 3) Aviat
> 
> Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?
> 
> Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tushar Patel
> 512-257-1077
> www.westernbroadband.com
> 
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Is it the wind?

2014-09-22 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af

If you are really curious, you could ask them why they think that.

But if you try to figure out how the brains of every one of your customers 
works, you will scramble your own brain.

I do remember a guy I knew in college who was trying to get his ham radio 
equipment working in his apartment, and gave up about the time his upstairs 
neighbor banged on the steam radiator.  A few days later, the neighbor saw him 
in the hall and asked if the radiators were interfering with his TV also.  
Being kind of a dick, my buddy said yes, now that you mention it, I think I 
have noticed that.  So whenever he had people over he would show them his 
entertaining trick, he would key the transmitter until the neighbor banged on 
the pipes, then turn it off.

This is how superstitions and folk remedies start.


From: Mathew Howard via Af 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is it the wind?

I've seen the same... on 900mhz and 2.4ghz, anytime you're shooting through 
trees, the wind can have at least some effect, but on LOS? No well, I guess 
maybe if you have, say, a couple of 3' dishes on a Rohn 25 :-P 




From: Af [af-bounces+mathew=litewire@afmug.com] on behalf of CBB - Jay 
Fuller via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is it the wind?



I think i've seen that impact 900 mhz signals ; more wind blowing around, 
needles blowing everywhere, affecting signal swings by 5-6-even 10 db...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Reynolds via Af 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is it the wind?

  Blowing their dish around?

  Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
  SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

  On 09/22/2014 11:31 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote:

Why do some customers ask if it's caused by "the wind" if they're having a 
problem.ï¿½ Do they picture the wind blowing microwaves out of the sky? 

It was asked today by somebody I thought would know better. 

"It's windy today.ï¿½ Do you think it's the wind?ï¿½ I'm pretty sure it 
happened once before and I think there was wind on that day too.ï¿½ It must be 
the wind."

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

from what source are you seeing that Exalt has gone chapter 11?

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af  wrote:

> For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
> three company that is making the radios now.
>
> 1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
> 2) Ceragon
> 3) Aviat
>
> Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?
>
> Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?
>
> Thanks,
> Tushar Patel
> 512-257-1077
> www.westernbroadband.com
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

I was looking at their very short range 80 GHz (E-Band) products. Tried to
get the technical sales rep to send me a text, copied/pasted snmpwalk of a
typical device in actual use so that I could see what parameters I could
poll off the radio link with software such as cacti, nagios, zenoss, etc.

He said they wanted me to sign an NDA for that.

wtf?

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tushar Patel via Af  wrote:

> For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
> three company that is making the radios now.
>
> 1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
> 2) Ceragon
> 3) Aviat
>
> Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?
>
> Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?
>
> Thanks,
> Tushar Patel
> 512-257-1077
> www.westernbroadband.com
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Is it the wind?

2014-09-22 Thread Adam Moffett via Af



I didn't expect people to say the customer was right :)

I also would blame the trees, not the wind.

I've seen the same... on 900mhz and 2.4ghz, anytime you're shooting 
through trees, the wind can have at least some effect, but on LOS? 
No well, I guess maybe if you have, say, a couple of 3' dishes on 
a Rohn 25 :-P


*From:* Af [af-bounces+mathew=litewire@afmug.com] on behalf of CBB 
- Jay Fuller via Af [af@afmug.com]

*Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 2:54 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is it the wind?

I think i've seen that impact 900 mhz signals ; more wind blowing 
around, needles blowing everywhere, affecting signal swings by 
5-6-even 10 db...


- Original Message -
*From:* Josh Reynolds via Af 
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2014 2:40 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is it the wind?

Blowing their dish around?

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 09/22/2014 11:31 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote:

Why do some customers ask if it's caused by "the wind" if they're
having a problem.ï¿½ Do they picture the wind blowing microwaves
out of the sky?

It was asked today by somebody I thought would know better.

"It's windy today.ï¿½ Do you think it's the wind?ï¿½ I'm pretty
sure it happened once before and I think there was wind on that
day too.ï¿½ It must be the wind."

[AFMUG] Aviat Networks, (Harris stratex ), any input?

For license backhaul and 80 MHz channel in 11 GHz band, I have found only
three company that is making the radios now.

1) Exalt (chapter 11 now)
2) Ceragon
3) Aviat

Any other company  making products in 80 MHz channel in 11 Ghz band?

Any input on Harris Stratex (Aviat) products?

Thanks,
Tushar Patel
512-257-1077
www.westernbroadband.com

Re: [AFMUG] zen thought of the day

2014-09-22 Thread Mathew Howard via Af

But that's pretty much just as good anyhow, isn't it?

From: Af [af-bounces+mathew=litewire@afmug.com] on behalf of Rory Conaway 
via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 3:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] zen thought of the day

No but you might blow up the universe as we know it.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory=triadwireless@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric 
Kuhnke via Af
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 12:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] zen thought of the day

If you plug a power over ethernet injector into an ethernet-over-powerlines 
adapter, do you get infinite energy?

Re: [AFMUG] Is it the wind?

2014-09-22 Thread Mathew Howard via Af

I've seen the same... on 900mhz and 2.4ghz, anytime you're shooting through 
trees, the wind can have at least some effect, but on LOS? No well, I guess 
maybe if you have, say, a couple of 3' dishes on a Rohn 25 :-P

From: Af [af-bounces+mathew=litewire@afmug.com] on behalf of CBB - Jay 
Fuller via Af [af@afmug.com]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is it the wind?

I think i've seen that impact 900 mhz signals ; more wind blowing around, 
needles blowing everywhere, affecting signal swings by 5-6-even 10 db...

- Original Message -
From: Josh Reynolds via Af
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is it the wind?

Blowing their dish around?

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

On 09/22/2014 11:31 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote:
Why do some customers ask if it's caused by "the wind" if they're having a 
problem.ï¿½ Do they picture the wind blowing microwaves out of the sky?

It was asked today by somebody I thought would know better.

"It's windy today.ï¿½ Do you think it's the wind?ï¿½ I'm pretty sure it 
happened once before and I think there was wind on that day too.ï¿½ It must be 
the wind."

Re: [AFMUG] zen thought of the day

2014-09-22 Thread Rory Conaway via Af

No but you might blow up the universe as we know it.  

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+rory=triadwireless@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric 
Kuhnke via Af
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 12:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] zen thought of the day

 

If you plug a power over ethernet injector into an ethernet-over-powerlines 
adapter, do you get infinite energy?

Re: [AFMUG] zen thought of the day

2014-09-22 Thread Matt Jenkins via Af


In thunderbird I don't get threads anymore either.

Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
m...@sbbinc.net
530.272.4000

On 09/22/2014 12:49 PM, David via Af wrote:

Why dont the replies to the original thread stay in a thread :(

On 09/22/2014 02:08 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
If you plug a power over ethernet injector into an 
ethernet-over-powerlines adapter, do you get infinite energy?

Re: [AFMUG] Is it the wind?

2014-09-22 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller via Af

I think i've seen that impact 900 mhz signals ; more wind blowing around, 
needles blowing everywhere, affecting signal swings by 5-6-even 10 db...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Josh Reynolds via Af 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is it the wind?

  Blowing their dish around?

  Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
  SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

  On 09/22/2014 11:31 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote:

Why do some customers ask if it's caused by "the wind" if they're having a 
problem.ï¿½ Do they picture the wind blowing microwaves out of the sky? 

It was asked today by somebody I thought would know better. 

"It's windy today.ï¿½ Do you think it's the wind?ï¿½ I'm pretty sure it 
happened once before and I think there was wind on that day too.ï¿½ It must be 
the wind."

Re: [AFMUG] zen thought of the day

2014-09-22 Thread David via Af


Why dont the replies to the original thread stay in a thread :(

On 09/22/2014 02:08 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
If you plug a power over ethernet injector into an 
ethernet-over-powerlines adapter, do you get infinite energy?

Re: [AFMUG] Is it the wind?

2014-09-22 Thread Adam Moffett via Af


I guess that might be a problem on some installs.


On 9/22/2014 3:40 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af wrote:

Blowing their dish around?

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 09/22/2014 11:31 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote:
Why do some customers ask if it's caused by "the wind" if they're 
having a problem.ï¿½ Do they picture the wind blowing microwaves out 
of the sky?


It was asked today by somebody I thought would know better.

"It's windy today.ï¿½ Do you think it's the wind?ï¿½ I'm pretty sure 
it happened once before and I think there was wind on that day 
too.ï¿½ It must be the wind."

Re: [AFMUG] Is it the wind?


Blowing their dish around?

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 09/22/2014 11:31 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote:
Why do some customers ask if it's caused by "the wind" if they're 
having a problem.  Do they picture the wind blowing microwaves out of 
the sky?


It was asked today by somebody I thought would know better.

"It's windy today.  Do you think it's the wind?  I'm pretty sure it 
happened once before and I think there was wind on that day too.  It 
must be the wind."

[AFMUG] Is it the wind?

2014-09-22 Thread Adam Moffett via Af

Why do some customers ask if it's caused by "the wind" if they're having 
a problem.  Do they picture the wind blowing microwaves out of the sky?


It was asked today by somebody I thought would know better.

"It's windy today.  Do you think it's the wind?  I'm pretty sure it 
happened once before and I think there was wind on that day too.  It 
must be the wind."

Re: [AFMUG] zen thought of the day


ROFL :)

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com 

On 09/22/2014 11:11 AM, Randy Cosby via Af wrote:
Only if you first microwave both the injector and adapter for 1.5 
minutes on high.


On 9/22/2014 1:08 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
If you plug a power over ethernet injector into an 
ethernet-over-powerlines adapter, do you get infinite energy?






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Re: [AFMUG] zen thought of the day

signatureSpritz it with salt water first.

From: Randy Cosby via Af 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 1:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] zen thought of the day

Only if you first microwave both the injector and adapter for 1.5 minutes on 
high.

On 9/22/2014 1:08 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:

  If you plug a power over ethernet injector into an ethernet-over-powerlines 
adapter, do you get infinite energy?

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Re: [AFMUG] zen thought of the day

2014-09-22 Thread Randy Cosby via Af

Only if you first microwave both the injector and adapter for 1.5 
minutes on high.


On 9/22/2014 1:08 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
If you plug a power over ethernet injector into an 
ethernet-over-powerlines adapter, do you get infinite energy?






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[AFMUG] zen thought of the day

If you plug a power over ethernet injector into an ethernet-over-powerlines
adapter, do you get infinite energy?

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco 12000 / GSR fish tank

2014-09-22 Thread Mike Greene via Af

I think I just found a use for my old CAT 6509!

Mike Greene
Rock Island Technology Solutions
360-378-5884 x201

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+mikeg=rockisland@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric 
Kuhnke via Af
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 11:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cisco 12000 / GSR fish tank

cross posted from nanog:

http://postimg.org/image/xdyp4o6p7/full/

I'd like to see someone do a double fish tank with a 12016

[AFMUG] Cisco 12000 / GSR fish tank

cross posted from nanog:

http://postimg.org/image/xdyp4o6p7/full/


I'd like to see someone do a double fish tank with a 12016

Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....

2014-09-22 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller via Af


Yesit seems emotions always get in the way.  Sell when its lowerbuy 
when its higheryou can't do that

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "James Howard via Af" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.
Date: Mon, Sep 22, 2014 9:49 AM
This might have already been addressed since I was away from the list over the 
weekend. I probably worded my statement poorly.  Someone made a comment about 
the prices fluctuating a lot and that this was probably how most of the money 
was going to be made on this stock.   My comments should have said “Does anyone 
every make money in short term or day trading in the stock market without 
someone else losing the same amount”.   I agree completely with you about long 
term ownership and a company building value.  I guess short term or day trading 
doesn’t necessarily always result in someone losing money though either.  It’s 
really just when you buy a stock that the price has crashed, then sell it when 
they go back up.  Whoever sold it to you at the bottom price probably lost 
money. So basically, it’s only when someone dumps a stock for less than they 
paid for it that someone had to lose money.  Maybe I’m mistaken but it seems 
like that happens quite a bit. From: Af 
[mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via 
Af
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market. If you invest 
in my company, I build it up and sell it for more money then wealth was indeed 
created.  You got your original investment back plus a share of the profits.  
The new owner is happy because they willingly bought the company.  Your 
customers are happy, etc.   Abstract that one level to stock and the stock 
market.  Who lost money in the above scenario?  One could argue the customers 
did but they got fair value for their service, right? If I invest in your 
company via a direct paid-in-capital or by buying debentures or by buying stock 
it is still an investment.  Hopefully the company will be worth more when I 
sell my ownership interest.  When I sell for more than I paid, who lost?  The 
new owner of the stock got fair value.From: "James Howard via Af" 

To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:56:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.

--- [ James Howard  wrote ]:
---Does anyone ever make money in the stock 
market without someone else losing that same amount of money?  Wealth isn’t 
created in the stock market, it’s transferred. From: Af 
[mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie via 
Af
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market. --- [ Jason 
McKemie

[AFMUG] New PMP beta load 13.2 Build 30 available!

2014-09-22 Thread canopy01 via Af

Folks,

PMP Beta load 13.2 Build 30 is now available for download and you can find it 
here:

https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450


  *   Improvements for MIMO-A
 *   PMP450 APs & SMs will now default to MIMO-A control message mode
 *   If you have an interop sector (containing 430 SMs), you may need to 
set this back to legacy SISO mode
*   Configuration -> Radio -> PMP 430 Interop Mode, set to SISO
*   This is only necessary if you have issues with existing PMP430's 
reconnecting and should not be necessary in a majority of the cases.
  *   Fix for missing "None" frequency option
  *   Control Slots is now called Contention Slots
  *   Addition of "Color Code Priority" column to the Session Status -> Session 
tab
 *   If Color Code Rescan option is enabled on the AP, and an SM is 
registered via a non-primary color code, there will be a countdown for each SM 
that will be rescanning due to this configuration.
 *   If an SM is registered via Installation Color Code (ICC), this will 
also be noted on the Session Status -> Device tab, Session column, next to "In 
Session"
  *   Added number of VCs in use next to Subscriber Count on the AP's main 
page.  This number includes Broadcast and Multicast (if enabled) VCs.
  *   Added support to NAT to handle fragments (to fix the FemtoCell issue)
  *   Alignment tone fix
  *   Various bug fixes


Corey

Re: [AFMUG] Waveguide compatibility info?

also: google image search for "waveguide flange" , sort by largest file
size, you'll find some excellent annotated references for the different
types.



On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 8:21 AM, cstanners--- via Af  wrote:

> Thanks for all this info!
> --
> *From: * Chuck McCown via Af 
> *Sender: * "Af" 
> *Date: *Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:22:48 +
> *To: *
> *ReplyTo: * af@afmug.com
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Waveguide compatibility info?
>
>  There are two types of grooves, o-ring groove for
> pressurization/moisture sealing and choke flange grooves to eliminate
> mismatch.  Choke flanges are CBR, where moisture sealing are PBR and flat
> are UBR.
>
> You want to use a PBR with a UBR if you can.  The UBR gives the O ring a
> good flat surface to mate with.
>
> Not sure how well two PBRs would work against each other.  I would not
> recommend it if you wanted to pressurize.
>
> Two UBRs will be fine from an electrical point of view but could not bre
> pressurized.
>
> Choke flanges are more for high power applications.  I don’t think I have
> ever seen one on lower power comm equipment.
>
> But for basic signal work, all of this stuff will work if you get them
> relatively close to each other.  They don’t even have to be fully touching
> or perfectly aligned.  I have taped them together in a pinch and they have
> run for years that way.  Two screws and they are good to go for many
> applications.  It almost seems like the signal is clingy to the inside of
> the waveguide like capillary action.  Of course if you are trying to get
> rid of leakage in or out for extreme weak signal work, you would want to
> put in all the screws.
>
>  *From:* Colin Stanners via Af 
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2014 6:25 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Waveguide compatibility info?
>
>  Can grooved and ungrooved waveguides be safely be used together, e.g. in
> outside weather? Like PBR and UBR?
>
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Chuck McCown via Af 
> wrote:
>
>> Waveguide is a broadband bandpass filter.  You can couple one size to
>> another as long as there is overlap in the pass band.  Go to low in
>> frequency and the waveguide just blocks the signal.  The cut off frequency.
>> It is not a brick wall filter.  Normally the cut off frequency is something
>> like the 1 dB mismatch loss frequency,  go lower and the loss goes up
>> quickly.
>>
>> Different problem in going too high.
>>
>> To use my photon analogy:
>>
>> Photons simply will not fit down the tube if they are too large (low
>> frequency).  Go too high in frequency and you get other than single file
>> photons trying to get town the tube.  Like two abreast, two rows two
>> columns etc etc.
>>
>> Those are called higher order modes and you can use them if you take care
>> of launching and receiving the signal in a low loss high return loss manner.
>>
>> http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/waveguide-chart.htm
>>
>> Then there are the non rectangular waveguides.  Ridge waveguide is
>> physically smaller than rectangular waveguide.  Circular is good for dual
>> pol and is exceedingly low loss but extra care has to be taken to prevent
>> polarization rotation.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: cstanners--- via Af
>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 6:41 PM
>> To: Jason McKemie via Af
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Waveguide compatibility info?
>>
>> Does anyone have resources/FAQs/etc to understand Waveguide compatibility?
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Waveguide compatibility info?

2014-09-22 Thread cstanners--- via Af

Thanks for all this info!

-Original Message-
From: Chuck McCown via Af 
Sender: "Af" 
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:22:48 
To: 
Reply-To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Waveguide compatibility info?

There are two types of grooves, o-ring groove for pressurization/moisture 
sealing and choke flange grooves to eliminate mismatch.  Choke flanges are CBR, 
where moisture sealing are PBR and flat are UBR.  

You want to use a PBR with a UBR if you can.  The UBR gives the O ring a good 
flat surface to mate with.  

Not sure how well two PBRs would work against each other.  I would not 
recommend it if you wanted to pressurize.

Two UBRs will be fine from an electrical point of view but could not bre 
pressurized.

Choke flanges are more for high power applications.  I don’t think I have ever 
seen one on lower power comm equipment.  

But for basic signal work, all of this stuff will work if you get them 
relatively close to each other.  They don’t even have to be fully touching or 
perfectly aligned.  I have taped them together in a pinch and they have run for 
years that way.  Two screws and they are good to go for many applications.  It 
almost seems like the signal is clingy to the inside of the waveguide like 
capillary action.  Of course if you are trying to get rid of leakage in or out 
for extreme weak signal work, you would want to put in all the screws.  

From: Colin Stanners via Af 
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 6:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Waveguide compatibility info?

Can grooved and ungrooved waveguides be safely be used together, e.g. in 
outside weather? Like PBR and UBR?

On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Chuck McCown via Af  wrote:

  Waveguide is a broadband bandpass filter.  You can couple one size to another 
as long as there is overlap in the pass band.  Go to low in frequency and the 
waveguide just blocks the signal.  The cut off frequency. It is not a brick 
wall filter.  Normally the cut off frequency is something like the 1 dB 
mismatch loss frequency,  go lower and the loss goes up quickly.

  Different problem in going too high.

  To use my photon analogy:

  Photons simply will not fit down the tube if they are too large (low 
frequency).  Go too high in frequency and you get other than single file 
photons trying to get town the tube.  Like two abreast, two rows two columns 
etc etc.

  Those are called higher order modes and you can use them if you take care of 
launching and receiving the signal in a low loss high return loss manner.

  http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/waveguide-chart.htm

  Then there are the non rectangular waveguides.  Ridge waveguide is physically 
smaller than rectangular waveguide.  Circular is good for dual pol and is 
exceedingly low loss but extra care has to be taken to prevent polarization 
rotation.

  -Original Message- From: cstanners--- via Af
  Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 6:41 PM
  To: Jason McKemie via Af
  Subject: [AFMUG] Waveguide compatibility info?

  Does anyone have resources/FAQs/etc to understand Waveguide compatibility?

Re: [AFMUG] That ain't right

2014-09-22 Thread Bill Prince via Af

We have SMs that occasionally lose session, but not like that.  I agree 
that it looks like the H-pol receiver is FUBAR.


What seems to happen most often (for us) is the SM re-starts session on 
the secondary color code and won't switch back to the primary.  I have 
yet to find a combination for Color Code Rescan/Wait period that 
actually gets the SM go back to the primary after a reasonable amount of 
time.  Currently using Rescan=30, Wait=2.


bp

On 9/22/2014 7:49 AM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af wrote:
This is really weird. Anybody seen an SM get all outta whack like 
this? I'm pretty sure the radio is bad and we're going to replace it. 
It looks like fading, but it's not since it's been doing this day and 
night for a couple days. And it is losing session once in a while. The 
H pol power level will come back to normal every few minutes. What's 
really weird is the H power so low, yet the SNRs and fragments look 
backwards. And the uplink direction looks normal. There are other SMs 
on the AP that don't do this, so I have to assume this SM is just FUBAR.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: iWave - the next big thing

2014-09-22 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af

and the score is...

4chan: 1

morons: zero


https://www.google.ca/search?q=apple+wave+4chan&num=100&client=firefox-a&hs=j56&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&source=univ&tbm=nws&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=FjwgVJ-JL-S8igKHvoDwCQ&ved=0CB4QqAI&biw=1473&bih=1004

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Jason McKemie via Af  wrote:

> These people were not ready for a "smart" phone.
>
>
> http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/137568-Wave-Hoax-Tells-iPhone-Users-to-Microwave-Their-Phones?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=news
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: iWave - the next big thing

2014-09-22 Thread Bill Prince via Af


Phones may be smart.  Users... not so much.

bp

On 9/22/2014 7:55 AM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote:

These people were not ready for a "smart" phone.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/137568-Wave-Hoax-Tells-iPhone-Users-to-Microwave-Their-Phones?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=news

[AFMUG] OT: iWave - the next big thing

2014-09-22 Thread Jason McKemie via Af

These people were not ready for a "smart" phone.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/137568-Wave-Hoax-Tells-iPhone-Users-to-Microwave-Their-Phones?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=news

[AFMUG] That ain't right

This is really weird. Anybody seen an SM get all outta whack like this? 
I'm pretty sure the radio is bad and we're going to replace it. It looks 
like fading, but it's not since it's been doing this day and night for a 
couple days. And it is losing session once in a while. The H pol power 
level will come back to normal every few minutes. What's really weird is 
the H power so low, yet the SNRs and fragments look backwards. And the 
uplink direction looks normal. There are other SMs on the AP that don't 
do this, so I have to assume this SM is just FUBAR.

Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.....

2014-09-22 Thread James Howard via Af

This might have already been addressed since I was away from the list over the 
weekend.

I probably worded my statement poorly.  Someone made a comment about the prices 
fluctuating a lot and that this was probably how most of the money was going to 
be made on this stock.   My comments should have said “Does anyone every make 
money in short term or day trading in the stock market without someone else 
losing the same amount”.

I agree completely with you about long term ownership and a company building 
value.  I guess short term or day trading doesn’t necessarily always result in 
someone losing money though either.  It’s really just when you buy a stock that 
the price has crashed, then sell it when they go back up.  Whoever sold it to 
you at the bottom price probably lost money.

So basically, it’s only when someone dumps a stock for less than they paid for 
it that someone had to lose money.  Maybe I’m mistaken but it seems like that 
happens quite a bit.

From: Af [mailto:af-bounces+james=litewire@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck 
McCown via Af
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.

If you invest in my company, I build it up and sell it for more money then 
wealth was indeed created.  You got your original investment back plus a share 
of the profits.  The new owner is happy because they willingly bought the 
company.  Your customers are happy, etc.

Abstract that one level to stock and the stock market.  Who lost money in the 
above scenario?  One could argue the customers did but they got fair value for 
their service, right?

If I invest in your company via a direct paid-in-capital or by buying 
debentures or by buying stock it is still an investment.  Hopefully the company 
will be worth more when I sell my ownership interest.  When I sell for more 
than I paid, who lost?  The new owner of the stock got fair value.



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To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:56:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's a big day on the stock market.

--- [ James Howard mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote ]:
---
Does anyone ever make money in the stock market without someone else losing 
that same amount of money?  Wealth isn’t created in the stock market, it’s 
transferred.

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Re: [AFMUG] Direct receiving station (DRS) 7.3m antenna

If you want to talk to a satellite that (from the point of view of a thing
on the ground) is not stationary, you'll need a fully agile antenna, which
are MUCH more rare in the US than regular earth stations designed to talk
to something in the geostationary arc.


Example of a TT&C facility that specializes in talking to satellites in
polar orbits, and things in LEO/MEO:

http://www.ksat.no/



On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Sean Heskett via Af  wrote:

> It's for down linking imagery and sending telemetry to the SPOT6&7 Boeing
> satellites.  They are in a sun synchronous orbit.
>
> We are working on a project for farmers and ranchers.
>
> Right now the sticking point is finding a facility with a 7.3m antenna
> that can talk to the bird.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> -Sean
>
> On Sunday, September 21, 2014, Eric Kuhnke via Af  wrote:
>
>> I know plenty of earth stations with 7.3 meter and larger size dishes.
>>
>> By "tracking", do you want a full azimuth/elevation tracking system
>> intended for TT&C / launch operations (fully agile, rapid), or do you want
>> an earth station antenna capable of tracking an inclined orbit
>> geostationary satellite?  The two types of tracking are very different
>> things.
>>
>> You know 8 GHz / X-band is a DoD and NATO frequency range in North
>> America?  What are you trying to do?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Sean Heskett via Af 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> By chance does anyone in North America (hopefully in the western US or 
>>> Canada)  know
>>> how to gain access to a low cost Direct  receiving station with a 7.3meter
>>> antenna that can send and receive (and track a satellite) in
>>> the 8ghz band???
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Waveguide compatibility info?