Re: [AFMUG] Epmp results

2014-12-22 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
Why are you taking rockets down? Just swap the rocket radio with the epmp
conn. RadioŠ the dish is already there and its aligned!



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com  
@aeronetpr






On 12/22/14, 12:00 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af
af@afmug.com wrote:

It's cambium and works well. I understand a lot of guys are now going to
it. Question though is the new AC gear worth waiting on at this point ??

My complaints are...

Wish it had alignment tone.  We are so use to our easy breezy alignment
tool with FSK and OFDM.  Going to the led lights was a step back I guess
to help keep costs down. Who here has tried to align a KP REFLECTOR like
that?  That's dumb.  Give me my headset back so I can listen to music.
Some of the UI loads slow and is missing some nice features we see in the
other cambium gear.  Sync and throughput is good.  Force 110 dish is
small...wish it was bigger to add the db loss from taking Rockets down.

Sorry I like carrier grade but without the price.  So I am crying about it

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 21, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 Just curious   Who out there has had positive or negative results from
EPMP.  What are the pluses and minuses?   I know price is a plus but
other than that??
 
 Craig



Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..

2014-12-22 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
I would expect it to be seamless as the radio still has connectivity on one 
channel during all of this. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 3:48:20 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping.. 


I'm curious to see what the seamless channel change looks like in terms of 
hiccup across each side of an OSPF /30 between a pair of routers... How many 
milliseconds of weirdness, if you're logged into a router console on one end 
and pinging the other? 



On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Stefan Englhardt via Af  af@afmug.com  
wrote: 





Are there still NDAs or can you share you’re experience? 
Esp. the advanced features like background channel scan with seamless channel 
change and overall stability. 
Does channel reuse work, how does it coexist with a ePMP on nearby channels … 




Von: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] Im Auftrag von Rory Conaway via Af 
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Dezember 2014 04:14 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping.. 



Chuck is doing more long range testing and we are testing more for relaying, 
higher density deployment for a different model. 

Rory 



From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af 
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 4:03 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping.. 


I had to look at their web site to remind me what's going on there. 

They don't use 4 polarities, they use 2.� They're not running 4x4 MIMO, 
they're running 2x2 MIMO X 2.� So they use two radios at each end, and two 
separate channels. -- bp part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} 
com 
On 12/19/2014 2:32 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote: 
blockquote

So anyone who did the beta on these want to do a writeup for the list? 
Is the 4x4 all different circular polarization variants? Kinda looks like it 
from the funny antenna elements. 
� 
Peter Kranz 
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd 
www.UnwiredLtd.com 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 
Mobile: 510-207- 
pkr...@unwiredltd.com 
� 



/blockquote




Re: [AFMUG] Epmp results

2014-12-22 Thread David Milholen via Af
We have been deploying them as an extension of our existing 
canopy/cambium network to pick up new and existing customers on 900 fsk.

+'s are :
the pricing is great
modular design
Throughput and consistent access are good.
-'s are:
Slow gui
Alignment is sometimes a bear without tones.


On 12/21/2014 9:36 PM, Craig House via Af wrote:

Just curious   Who out there has had positive or negative results from EPMP.  
What are the pluses and minuses?   I know price is a plus but other than that??

Craig


--


Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..

2014-12-22 Thread Stefan Englhardt via Af
This is what I want and should be possible from looking at the data.

But as there are testers on this forum it might not be neccesary to do 
guesswork ;-)).





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af
Gesendet: Montag, 22. Dezember 2014 13:34
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..



I would expect it to be seamless as the radio still has connectivity on one 
channel during all of this.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL  
https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb  
https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions  
https://twitter.com/ICSIL



  _

From: Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 3:48:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..

I'm curious to see what the seamless channel change looks like in terms of 
hiccup across each side of an OSPF /30 between a pair of routers...  How many 
milliseconds of weirdness, if you're logged into a router console on one end 
and pinging the other?



On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com  wrote:

Are there still NDAs or can you share you’re experience?

Esp. the advanced features like background channel scan with seamless channel 
change and overall stability.

Does channel reuse work, how does it coexist with a ePMP on nearby channels …





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] Im Auftrag 
von Rory Conaway via Af
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Dezember 2014 04:14
An: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..



Chuck is doing more long range testing and we are testing more for relaying, 
higher density deployment for a different model.



Rory



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 4:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..



I had to look at their web site to remind me what's going on there.

They don't use 4 polarities, they use 2.� They're not running 4x4 MIMO, 
they're running 2x2 MIMO X 2.� So they use two radios at each end, and two 
separate channels.

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


On 12/19/2014 2:32 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:

So anyone who did the beta on these want to do a writeup for the list?

Is the 4x4 all different circular polarization variants? Kinda looks like it 
from the funny antenna elements.

�

Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com

�











Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

2014-12-22 Thread Vince West via Af
I like the OnePlus One as well. Does this one have LTE? I wasn't sure about
that.

If you want too many choices to handle: ArsTechnica: The State of
Smartphones 2014
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/12/the-state-of-smartphones-in-2014-ars-technicas-ultimate-guide/

I have a Nexus 5 which, after the 5.0.1 update seems to have stopped it's
random reboot issues. Pure Android, none of the Samsung crap that I find
unnecessary.

I am also a fan of the Moto X and Moto G. For the price, they are amazing
phones. The LG G3 is also a beastly phone with little bloat that have a
nice sized screen.

Vince West
Tower Hand
Technical Support
Shelby Broadband
148 Citizens Blvd
Simpsonville, KY 40067
Phone: 1-888-364-4232

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I have a OnePlus One. It's a 5.5 screen, weighs 160 grams. About the same
 size as an iPhone 6+.  It has an awesome battery life:

 http://www.engadget.com/2014/05/08/oneplus-one-review/

 No carrier crapware, no disabled features (tethering), unlocked, no
 contract.

 On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Not double.  3500 mah versus 3300 mah.

 Screen is only slightly bigger (5 versus 4.7).

 But I'm really happy with this phone.  Don't anticipate switching until
 it dies.  It's a couple years old now, and it is stable, fast, and smooth.

 I don't know about others claims of android crashing.  Mine hasn't
 crashed once in the two years that I've had it.  It may have been an issue
 with early versions of android, but I've only experienced jelly bean (+),
 and it just keeps trucking.

 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


 On 12/21/2014 10:10 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:

 Jump up to the Droid Maxx.  Double the battery.  Screen is a lot bigger,
 though :/

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Dec 21, 2014 1:08 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  My Android fits in either front or back pocket.  It's large with a ~~
 5 (slightly less) screen.  The kevlar back seems to make it very sturdy,
 and I love the long battery life.  DROID RAZR MAXX HD.

 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


 On 12/21/2014 7:30 AM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote:

 Mike,

  The only guys I know that use belt clips to hold their phone are at
 wispa shows. In my everyday life, I know almost no one that have a phone in
 a holster or clip. Most everyone I know including many women put the phone
 in their front pocket as I do myself. Those who sit on their phone in their
 back pocket need some help.

 On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  haha

 This is the type I usually use.


 http://www.seidioonline.com/lg-google-nexus-5-convert-value-pack-black-p/bd5-hkr4lgn5.htm



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Jeremy via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 9:01:03 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

 ...but check out the awesome belt clips that they are making for these
 newer generation phones!
 http://img.tvc-mall.com/uploads/details/MLC-N9005-07-6.jpg

  ...or you could always go the holster route...
 http://www.gizmocrazed.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/163.jpg

 On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

  I'm not sure the phone placement would lessen the harassment.

 Most guys I know use a belt clip (even outside of the IT industry).

 *shrugs*



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  --
 *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 8:01:23 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

  I put mine in my pocket all the time.  If I even thought about using
 the belt clip, the three women (wife and two teen daughters) would harass
 me mercilessly!

 Jeff Broadwick
 ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
 312-205-2519 Office
 574-220-7826 Cell
 jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

 On Dec 21, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   Who puts phones in their pockets? Women put theirs in their purse
 or leave them in random places where they are not so you can't possibly
 reach them and men use cases\holsters that go on their belt.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  --
 *From: *Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 12:31:51 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

 When I saw the 6+ at the Apple Store I thought it was way over
 sized...especially since it wouldn't fit in pants pockets.



 On Saturday, December 20, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

  Did you try and/or considered 6 plus?

  I am considering 6 plus, I 

[AFMUG] Balting Networks selling AF5 for $850

2014-12-22 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af



Re: [AFMUG] Balting Networks selling AF5 for $850

2014-12-22 Thread Keefe John via Af

It'd be nice to see the AF24 @ $850 too.


On 12/22/2014 8:38 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
Well crap, that was not supposed to happen. Baltic is selling the AF5 
for $850. Is this the new normal, not $995?  150 bucks off makes it 
somewhat more attractive versus some other options, if I can use it 
for short distance FDD-like links and keep it in 1024QAM mode.


On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:







Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*********, Re: Epmp results

2014-12-22 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af
Gino,

You got a good mounting design with weather protection I didn't see?  If so,
please share.  That's the only reason.  Wanted to do it several times.

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 


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-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 6:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Spam:*, Re: [AFMUG] Epmp results

Why are you taking rockets down? Just swap the rocket radio with the epmp
conn. RadioŠ the dish is already there and its aligned!



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr






On 12/22/14, 12:00 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af
af@afmug.com wrote:

It's cambium and works well. I understand a lot of guys are now going 
to it. Question though is the new AC gear worth waiting on at this point ??

My complaints are...

Wish it had alignment tone.  We are so use to our easy breezy alignment 
tool with FSK and OFDM.  Going to the led lights was a step back I 
guess to help keep costs down. Who here has tried to align a KP 
REFLECTOR like that?  That's dumb.  Give me my headset back so I can listen
to music.
Some of the UI loads slow and is missing some nice features we see in 
the other cambium gear.  Sync and throughput is good.  Force 110 dish 
is small...wish it was bigger to add the db loss from taking Rockets down.

Sorry I like carrier grade but without the price.  So I am crying about 
it

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 21, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 Just curious   Who out there has had positive or negative results from
EPMP.  What are the pluses and minuses?   I know price is a plus but
other than that??
 
 Craig




Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

2014-12-22 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
Yes, it's LTE.


On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Vince West via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I like the OnePlus One as well. Does this one have LTE? I wasn't sure
 about that.

 If you want too many choices to handle: ArsTechnica: The State of
 Smartphones 2014
 http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/12/the-state-of-smartphones-in-2014-ars-technicas-ultimate-guide/

 I have a Nexus 5 which, after the 5.0.1 update seems to have stopped it's
 random reboot issues. Pure Android, none of the Samsung crap that I find
 unnecessary.

 I am also a fan of the Moto X and Moto G. For the price, they are amazing
 phones. The LG G3 is also a beastly phone with little bloat that have a
 nice sized screen.

 Vince West
 Tower Hand
 Technical Support
 Shelby Broadband
 148 Citizens Blvd
 Simpsonville, KY 40067
 Phone: 1-888-364-4232

 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I have a OnePlus One. It's a 5.5 screen, weighs 160 grams. About the
 same size as an iPhone 6+.  It has an awesome battery life:

 http://www.engadget.com/2014/05/08/oneplus-one-review/

 No carrier crapware, no disabled features (tethering), unlocked, no
 contract.

 On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Not double.  3500 mah versus 3300 mah.

 Screen is only slightly bigger (5 versus 4.7).

 But I'm really happy with this phone.  Don't anticipate switching until
 it dies.  It's a couple years old now, and it is stable, fast, and smooth.

 I don't know about others claims of android crashing.  Mine hasn't
 crashed once in the two years that I've had it.  It may have been an issue
 with early versions of android, but I've only experienced jelly bean (+),
 and it just keeps trucking.

 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


 On 12/21/2014 10:10 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:

 Jump up to the Droid Maxx.  Double the battery.  Screen is a lot bigger,
 though :/

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Dec 21, 2014 1:08 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  My Android fits in either front or back pocket.  It's large with a ~~
 5 (slightly less) screen.  The kevlar back seems to make it very sturdy,
 and I love the long battery life.  DROID RAZR MAXX HD.

 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


 On 12/21/2014 7:30 AM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote:

 Mike,

  The only guys I know that use belt clips to hold their phone are at
 wispa shows. In my everyday life, I know almost no one that have a phone in
 a holster or clip. Most everyone I know including many women put the phone
 in their front pocket as I do myself. Those who sit on their phone in their
 back pocket need some help.

 On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  haha

 This is the type I usually use.


 http://www.seidioonline.com/lg-google-nexus-5-convert-value-pack-black-p/bd5-hkr4lgn5.htm



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Jeremy via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 9:01:03 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

 ...but check out the awesome belt clips that they are making for these
 newer generation phones!
 http://img.tvc-mall.com/uploads/details/MLC-N9005-07-6.jpg

  ...or you could always go the holster route...
 http://www.gizmocrazed.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/163.jpg

 On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

  I'm not sure the phone placement would lessen the harassment.

 Most guys I know use a belt clip (even outside of the IT industry).

 *shrugs*



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  --
 *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 8:01:23 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

  I put mine in my pocket all the time.  If I even thought about
 using the belt clip, the three women (wife and two teen daughters) would
 harass me mercilessly!

 Jeff Broadwick
 ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
 312-205-2519 Office
 574-220-7826 Cell
 jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

 On Dec 21, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

   Who puts phones in their pockets? Women put theirs in their purse
 or leave them in random places where they are not so you can't possibly
 reach them and men use cases\holsters that go on their belt.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  --
 *From: *Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 12:31:51 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

 When I saw the 6+ at the Apple Store I thought it was way over
 sized...especially since it wouldn't fit in pants pockets.



 On Saturday, December 20, 2014, 

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*********, Re: Epmp results

2014-12-22 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
For epmp + rocket dish?



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com  
@aeronetpr






On 12/22/14, 10:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af
af@afmug.com wrote:

Gino,

You got a good mounting design with weather protection I didn't see?  If
so,
please share.  That's the only reason.  Wanted to do it several times.

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131
  
317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net


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-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 6:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Spam:*, Re: [AFMUG] Epmp results

Why are you taking rockets down? Just swap the rocket radio with the epmp
conn. RadioŠ the dish is already there and its aligned!



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr






On 12/22/14, 12:00 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af
af@afmug.com wrote:

It's cambium and works well. I understand a lot of guys are now going
to it. Question though is the new AC gear worth waiting on at this point
??

My complaints are...

Wish it had alignment tone.  We are so use to our easy breezy alignment
tool with FSK and OFDM.  Going to the led lights was a step back I
guess to help keep costs down. Who here has tried to align a KP
REFLECTOR like that?  That's dumb.  Give me my headset back so I can
listen
to music.
Some of the UI loads slow and is missing some nice features we see in
the other cambium gear.  Sync and throughput is good.  Force 110 dish
is small...wish it was bigger to add the db loss from taking Rockets
down.

Sorry I like carrier grade but without the price.  So I am crying about
it

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 21, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 Just curious   Who out there has had positive or negative results from
EPMP.  What are the pluses and minuses?   I know price is a plus but
other than that??
 
 Craig





Re: [AFMUG] Balting Networks selling AF5 for $850

2014-12-22 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
The antennas are too small to be useful in most places. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Carl Peterson via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 9:49:02 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Balting Networks selling AF5 for $850 


I get the feeling that AF5s aren't selling too well and there is a bunch of old 
inventory they are trying to move. AF24s are still selling well. 

On Dec 22, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Keefe John via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 




It'd be nice to see the AF24 @ $850 too. 



On 12/22/2014 8:38 AM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote: 

blockquote


Well crap, that was not supposed to happen. Baltic is selling the AF5 for $850. 
Is this the new normal, not $995? 150 bucks off makes it somewhat more 
attractive versus some other options, if I can use it for short distance 
FDD-like links and keep it in 1024QAM mode. 



On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote




/blockquote


/blockquote



Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*********, Re: Epmp results

2014-12-22 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af
Oh Lord Mike.  PLEASE tell me you don’t do that.

 

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



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unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly 
prohibited. 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:54 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*, Re: Epmp results

 

http://bit.ly/1wWgDhp

http://bit.ly/1wWgHOj



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL  
https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb  
https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions  
https://twitter.com/ICSIL 



  _  

From: Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af af@afmug.com 
mailto:af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 9:52:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*, Re:  Epmp results

Yep.

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net http://www.surfici.net  


What can ICI do for you? 

Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 
  
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-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*, Re: Epmp results

For epmp + rocket dish?



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com http://www.aeronetpr.com 
@aeronetpr






On 12/22/14, 10:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com  wrote:

Gino,

You got a good mounting design with weather protection I didn't see?  
If so, please share.  That's the only reason.  Wanted to do it several 
times.

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131
  
317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net http://www.surfici.net 


What can ICI do for you?

Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - 
IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.
  
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee 
shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from 
disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or 
its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly 
prohibited.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via 
Af
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 6:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com 
Subject: Spam:*, Re: [AFMUG] Epmp results

Why are you taking rockets down? Just swap the rocket radio with the 
epmp conn. RadioŠ the dish is already there and its aligned!



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com http://www.aeronetpr.com 
@aeronetpr






On 12/22/14, 12:00 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af
af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com  wrote:

It's cambium and works well. I understand a lot of guys are now going 
to it. Question though is the new AC gear worth waiting on at this 
point ??

My complaints are...

Wish it had alignment tone.  We are so use to our easy breezy 
alignment tool with FSK and OFDM.  Going to the led lights was a step 
back I guess to help keep costs down. Who here has tried to align a KP 
REFLECTOR like that?  That's dumb.  Give me my headset back so I can 
listen
to music.
Some of the UI loads slow and is missing some nice features we see in 
the other cambium gear.  Sync and throughput is good.  Force 110 dish 
is small...wish it was bigger to add the db loss from taking Rockets 
down.

Sorry I like carrier grade but without the price.  So I am crying 
about it

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 21, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com 
 mailto:af@afmug.com  wrote:
 
 Just curious   Who out there has had positive or negative results from
EPMP.  What are the pluses and minuses?   I know price is a plus but
other than that??
 
 

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*********, Re: Epmp results

2014-12-22 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
COAX SEAL!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Gino Villarini via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:

 Epmp pole bracket, rpsma to rpsma pigtails and some tape...





 Gino A. Villarini
 President
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 www.aeronetpr.com
 @aeronetpr






 On 12/22/14, 11:52 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af
 af@afmug.com wrote:

 Yep.
 
 Tyson Burris, President
 Internet Communications Inc.
 739 Commerce Dr.
 Franklin, IN 46131
 
 317-738-0320 Daytime #
 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
 Online: www.surfici.net
 
 
 What can ICI do for you?
 
 Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
 Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.
 
 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the
 addressee shown. It contains information that is
 confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,
 dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by
 unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly
 prohibited.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af
 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:50 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*, Re: Epmp results
 
 For epmp + rocket dish?
 
 
 
 Gino A. Villarini
 President
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 www.aeronetpr.com
 @aeronetpr
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 12/22/14, 10:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af
 af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 Gino,
 
 You got a good mounting design with weather protection I didn't see?
 If so, please share.  That's the only reason.  Wanted to do it several
 times.
 
 Tyson Burris, President
 Internet Communications Inc.
 739 Commerce Dr.
 Franklin, IN 46131
 
 317-738-0320 Daytime #
 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
 Online: www.surfici.net
 
 
 What can ICI do for you?
 
 Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones -
 IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.
 
 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee
 shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from
 disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or
 its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly
 prohibited.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via
 Af
 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 6:16 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Spam:*, Re: [AFMUG] Epmp results
 
 Why are you taking rockets down? Just swap the rocket radio with the
 epmp conn. RadioŠ the dish is already there and its aligned!
 
 
 
 Gino A. Villarini
 President
 Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
 www.aeronetpr.com
 @aeronetpr
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 12/22/14, 12:00 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af
 af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 It's cambium and works well. I understand a lot of guys are now going
 to it. Question though is the new AC gear worth waiting on at this
 point ??
 
 My complaints are...
 
 Wish it had alignment tone.  We are so use to our easy breezy
 alignment tool with FSK and OFDM.  Going to the led lights was a step
 back I guess to help keep costs down. Who here has tried to align a KP
 REFLECTOR like that?  That's dumb.  Give me my headset back so I can
 listen
 to music.
 Some of the UI loads slow and is missing some nice features we see in
 the other cambium gear.  Sync and throughput is good.  Force 110 dish
 is small...wish it was bigger to add the db loss from taking Rockets
 down.
 
 Sorry I like carrier grade but without the price.  So I am crying
 about it
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Dec 21, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Craig House via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:
 
  Just curious   Who out there has had positive or negative results from
 EPMP.  What are the pluses and minuses?   I know price is a plus but
 other than that??
 
  Craig
 
 
 
 




Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*********, Re: Epmp results

2014-12-22 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Colorful for Christmas time! ;-) 

Naw, just the first colorful tape and ties I saw on Google Shopping. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 9:56:26 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*, Re: Epmp results 



Oh Lord Mike. PLEASE tell me you don’t do that. 



Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 

317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

ICI
What can ICI do for you? 

Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the 
addressee shown. It contains information that is 
confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, 
dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by 
unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly 
prohibited. 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:54 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*, Re: Epmp results 


http://bit.ly/1wWgDhp 

http://bit.ly/1wWgHOj 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




- Original Message -


From: Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af  af@afmug.com  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 9:52:07 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*, Re: Epmp results 

Yep. 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 

317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 


What can ICI do for you? 

Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the 
addressee shown. It contains information that is 
confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, 
dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by 
unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly 
prohibited. 

-Original Message- 
From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 10:50 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Spam:*, Re: Epmp results 

For epmp + rocket dish? 



Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
www.aeronetpr.com 
@aeronetpr 






On 12/22/14, 10:59 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via Af 
 af@afmug.com  wrote: 

Gino, 
 
You got a good mounting design with weather protection I didn't see? 
If so, please share. That's the only reason. Wanted to do it several 
times. 
 
Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
 
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 
 
 
What can ICI do for you? 
 
Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - 
IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 
 
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the addressee 
shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from 
disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or 
its contents by unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly 
prohibited. 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via 
Af 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 6:16 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Spam:*, Re: [AFMUG] Epmp results 
 
Why are you taking rockets down? Just swap the rocket radio with the 
epmp conn. RadioŠ the dish is already there and its aligned! 
 
 
 
Gino A. Villarini 
President 
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 
 www.aeronetpr.com 
@aeronetpr 
 
 
 
 
 
 
On 12/22/14, 12:00 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc via Af 
 af@afmug.com  wrote: 
 
It's cambium and works well. I understand a lot of guys are now going 
to it. Question though is the new AC gear worth waiting on at this 
point ?? 
 
My complaints are... 
 
Wish it had alignment tone. We are so use to our easy breezy 
alignment tool with FSK and OFDM. Going to the led lights was a step 
back I guess to help keep costs down. Who here has tried to align a KP 
REFLECTOR like that? That's dumb. Give me my headset back so I can 
listen 
to music. 
Some of the UI loads slow and is missing some nice features we see in 
the other cambium gear. Sync and throughput is good. Force 110 dish 
is small...wish it was bigger to add the db loss from taking Rockets 
down. 
 
Sorry I like carrier grade but without the price. So I am crying 
about it 
 
Sent from my iPhone 
 
 On Dec 21, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Craig House via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 
 
 Just curious Who out there has had positive or negative results from 
EPMP. What are the pluses and minuses? I 

[AFMUG] Animal Farm Hotel reservations

2014-12-22 Thread Traci via Af

Hi All,
We have been working with the Shilo Inn on the problems we are having 
with reservations through their transition to a Holiday Inn Express. 
They can take your reservations via phone by calling 801-521-9500. 
Please refer to rate code WBM.

If you have problems please let us know - Hope to see you all in February!
Traci
WB Manufacturing


Re: [AFMUG] OT - PCI-E enterprise SSDs

2014-12-22 Thread Paul Conlin via Af
What about arrays of lower cost consumer grade SSD's vs the more expensive
enterprise drives or cards.  The 'I' in RAID can stand for inexpensive.
It can make sense to mirror two cheap drives on non-big data server
applications.  So the HD form factor for solid state storage is a good thing
in this case.

Two 60GB SATAIII drives for $45/ea is really cheap.  $60 for 120GB.  Wow.

PC
Blaze Broadband


 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:57 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] OT - PCI-E enterprise SSDs
 
 So I've been impressed lately with the performance improvements to
personal
 computers and I/O intensive servers like web and mail servers by replacing
HDDs with
 SSDs.  I'm convinced the emphasis on CPU and memory is often misplaced and
the
 key is disk read/write performance.  I think part of this is our use of
computers has
 gone from computing oriented to data oriented.
 Big, big data.  The one exception perhaps being games, but is that CPU
intensive or
 GPU intensive?
 
 So I've noticed there are enterprise SSD cards that go in a PCI-E slot
like Intel S3700,
 Huawei ES3000, Samsung SM1715.  The performance numbers sound comparable
to a
 very expensive RAID array of SAS drives.  It does raise the question, why
are we
 making SSDs look like HDDs including form factor and electrical interface,
other than
 for the hot swap capability of SATA/SAS?
 
 Has anyone used these things?  Are they automatically recognized by
Windows and
 Linux as disk drives?  Do you need to load special drives and jump through
special
 hoops?  Is there any point trying to do RAID with these, and can that even
be done?




Re: [AFMUG] OT - PCI-E enterprise SSDs

2014-12-22 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
I wouldn't trust the really cheap ones but some of the middle of the road
SSDs have surprisingly huge write endurance:


http://techreport.com/review/27436/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-two-freaking-petabytes



On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Paul Conlin via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 What about arrays of lower cost consumer grade SSD's vs the more expensive
 enterprise drives or cards.  The 'I' in RAID can stand for inexpensive.
 It can make sense to mirror two cheap drives on non-big data server
 applications.  So the HD form factor for solid state storage is a good
 thing
 in this case.

 Two 60GB SATAIII drives for $45/ea is really cheap.  $60 for 120GB.  Wow.

 PC
 Blaze Broadband


  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:57 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT - PCI-E enterprise SSDs
 
  So I've been impressed lately with the performance improvements to
 personal
  computers and I/O intensive servers like web and mail servers by
 replacing
 HDDs with
  SSDs.  I'm convinced the emphasis on CPU and memory is often misplaced
 and
 the
  key is disk read/write performance.  I think part of this is our use of
 computers has
  gone from computing oriented to data oriented.
  Big, big data.  The one exception perhaps being games, but is that CPU
 intensive or
  GPU intensive?
 
  So I've noticed there are enterprise SSD cards that go in a PCI-E slot
 like Intel S3700,
  Huawei ES3000, Samsung SM1715.  The performance numbers sound comparable
 to a
  very expensive RAID array of SAS drives.  It does raise the question, why
 are we
  making SSDs look like HDDs including form factor and electrical
 interface,
 other than
  for the hot swap capability of SATA/SAS?
 
  Has anyone used these things?  Are they automatically recognized by
 Windows and
  Linux as disk drives?  Do you need to load special drives and jump
 through
 special
  hoops?  Is there any point trying to do RAID with these, and can that
 even
 be done?





Re: [AFMUG] OT - PCI-E enterprise SSDs

2014-12-22 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Dollar for life wise the cheaper ones may not make sense, but ZFS would help 
detect and mask failures. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



- Original Message -

From: Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:46:14 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - PCI-E enterprise SSDs 


I wouldn't trust the really cheap ones but some of the middle of the road SSDs 
have surprisingly huge write endurance: 


http://techreport.com/review/27436/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-two-freaking-petabytes
 





On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Paul Conlin via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 


What about arrays of lower cost consumer grade SSD's vs the more expensive 
enterprise drives or cards. The 'I' in RAID can stand for inexpensive. 
It can make sense to mirror two cheap drives on non-big data server 
applications. So the HD form factor for solid state storage is a good thing 
in this case. 

Two 60GB SATAIII drives for $45/ea is really cheap. $60 for 120GB. Wow. 

PC 
Blaze Broadband 




 -Original Message- 
 From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af 
 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:57 AM 
 To: af@afmug.com 
 Subject: [AFMUG] OT - PCI-E enterprise SSDs 
 
 So I've been impressed lately with the performance improvements to 
personal 
 computers and I/O intensive servers like web and mail servers by replacing 
HDDs with 
 SSDs. I'm convinced the emphasis on CPU and memory is often misplaced and 
the 
 key is disk read/write performance. I think part of this is our use of 
computers has 
 gone from computing oriented to data oriented. 
 Big, big data. The one exception perhaps being games, but is that CPU 
intensive or 
 GPU intensive? 
 
 So I've noticed there are enterprise SSD cards that go in a PCI-E slot 
like Intel S3700, 
 Huawei ES3000, Samsung SM1715. The performance numbers sound comparable 
to a 
 very expensive RAID array of SAS drives. It does raise the question, why 
are we 
 making SSDs look like HDDs including form factor and electrical interface, 
other than 
 for the hot swap capability of SATA/SAS? 
 
 Has anyone used these things? Are they automatically recognized by 
Windows and 
 Linux as disk drives? Do you need to load special drives and jump through 
special 
 hoops? Is there any point trying to do RAID with these, and can that even 
be done? 








Re: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

2014-12-22 Thread Josh Luthman via Af
SWG?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Dec 22, 2014 8:36 PM, Heith Petersen via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Did you check WSG? They offered me $20 per to by my p9 and above, so maybe
 they sell theirs for $35. I am still trying to find someone to buy mine off
 me



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman via
 Af
 *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2014 4:43 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs



 If you have a couple you could sell me I'd appreciate it.  Just need a few
 spares.



 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 No virus found in this message.
 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
 Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8786 - Release Date: 12/22/14



[AFMUG] ePMP WTF?

2014-12-22 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
I've got a 1 mile Force110 PTP link (not the 110PTP radio, just regular 
ePMP conn. radios). I'm getting sporadic high latency and packet loss. 
It's currently set to flexible and carrier sense enabled. Both sides are 
on 2.3.3. eDetect shows no interferers on either side.


It says -62/-62, 30/30 SNR, 15/15MCS, 100x100% quality. Pinging from/to 
devices on each side and/or between the radios themselves shows these 
latency spikes, anywhere from 200-500ms and sometimes packet loss.


I've tried 75/25, 50/50 and now flexible (since the latency is lower). 
Flexible made it somewhat better. Then setting carrier sense on made it 
slightly better.


The AP side is set to first MAC PTP mode. Max range is 2 miles.

I don't know where else to go from here. For the first ePMP PTP I'm 
turning on, this is not looking good.


Re: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

2014-12-22 Thread Heith Petersen via Af
Yeah sorry ;)

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 8:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

 

SWG?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 22, 2014 8:36 PM, Heith Petersen via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Did you check WSG? They offered me $20 per to by my p9 and above, so maybe they 
sell theirs for $35. I am still trying to find someone to buy mine off me

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 4:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

 

If you have a couple you could sell me I'd appreciate it.  Just need a few 
spares.


 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8786 - Release Date: 12/22/14

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8786 - Release Date: 12/22/14



[AFMUG] 320/450 colocation guide

2014-12-22 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
Cambium posted the 450 3.65 beta colocation guide on the blog (community) 
website today.

We put up one 450 3.65 co-located with a 320AP today.   Just starting to play 
with it.  

Mark

Re: [AFMUG] 320/450 colocation guide

2014-12-22 Thread That One Guy via Af
my money is on balls

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:58 PM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Cambium posted the 450 3.65 beta colocation guide on the blog (community)
 website today.

 We put up one 450 3.65 co-located with a 320AP today.   Just starting to
 play with it.

 Mark




-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

2014-12-22 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
Before I’d sell them for $20, I think I’d find a micropop scenario to redeploy 
them.  Hey, I still have FSK APs with 20-30 subs on them.  Some places JAB has 
twice that.

From: Heith Petersen via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

Did you check WSG? They offered me $20 per to by my p9 and above, so maybe they 
sell theirs for $35. I am still trying to find someone to buy mine off me

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 4:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

 

If you have a couple you could sell me I'd appreciate it.  Just need a few 
spares.


 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8786 - Release Date: 12/22/14


Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down....

2014-12-22 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I read somewhere, I think maybe Ars, that the DDoS attack has been going on for 
several days and is using primarily NTP and SSDP (UPnP discovery protocol) 
amplification.  And that SSDP has succeeded NTP and DNS as the amplification 
method for big ( 1Gbps) DDoS attacks.  Apparently because the industry jumped 
on securing open NTP servers.  And even though SSDP provides less amplification 
than NTP, there are more targets and they are mostly home routers which 
consumers are not going to patch even if there is patched firmware available.  
Plus UDP makes it easier to spoof the source IP.

So I must have missed that UDP port 1900 is the new target for amplification.

I did a quick torch and saw a bunch of traffic on udp/1900, some inbound only 
which I assume are scans, some bidirectional which I’m thinking is suspicious 
but maybe some port 1900 traffic is normal because it is in the 1024 ephemeral 
port range.

I went and signed up for ShadowServer, figuring they will tell me what IPs were 
responding to SSDP requests on what date and I can track down the customer.  
Anyone have a better approach?  If you identify customers with UPnP open to the 
outside, are you contacting them and pushing them to fix it?

It’s just amazing to me that some routers would have UPnP open on the WAN side. 
 What’s wrong with these companies?  I saw DLink mentioned, and sure enough, 
when I torched for udp/1900, I saw a lot of connections for a customer that I 
seem to remember has a DLink DIR-655.


From: Jaime Solorza via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:58 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down

linksys modems for backhauls


Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc via 
Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  No! No! They have Comcast Cable and Century Link DSL.  Normal stuff.



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  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson via Af
  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 4:24 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] North Korea is down



  The FBI setup a P2P server in North Korea with the Sony movie as the only 
download. LOL

  Travis

  On 12/22/2014 2:08 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af wrote:


What did we do? Lol. How did we do it ?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone





Re: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

2014-12-22 Thread Heith Petersen via Af
Well, I am in pretty poor shape. I have several APs with 60 plus that I am 
slowly chipping away at. I just converted a 70 sub omni to 3 panels and, though 
I didn’t have huge gains, at least those users think they have better speeds. 
But I am sure at 23 subs per im still killing my self. We have some P8 10 meg 
BHs on the shelf that the boss wont scrap out just in case we need them. At 
some time hes gotto let go

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 9:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

 

Before I’d sell them for $20, I think I’d find a micropop scenario to redeploy 
them.  Hey, I still have FSK APs with 20-30 subs on them.  Some places JAB has 
twice that.

 

From: Heith Petersen via Af mailto:af@afmug.com  

Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:36 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

 

Did you check WSG? They offered me $20 per to by my p9 and above, so maybe they 
sell theirs for $35. I am still trying to find someone to buy mine off me

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 4:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

 

If you have a couple you could sell me I'd appreciate it.  Just need a few 
spares.


 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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Re: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

2014-12-22 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
I never bought into the 6 AP clusters with bare APs, too expensive.  But if 
people are giving away FSK radios, it could make economic sense, especially as 
a replacement for an omni.  Assuming you have 3 channels to do ABCABC.

From: Heith Petersen via Af 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 9:45 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

Well, I am in pretty poor shape. I have several APs with 60 plus that I am 
slowly chipping away at. I just converted a 70 sub omni to 3 panels and, though 
I didn’t have huge gains, at least those users think they have better speeds. 
But I am sure at 23 subs per im still killing my self. We have some P8 10 meg 
BHs on the shelf that the boss wont scrap out just in case we need them. At 
some time hes gotto let go

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 9:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

 

Before I’d sell them for $20, I think I’d find a micropop scenario to redeploy 
them.  Hey, I still have FSK APs with 20-30 subs on them.  Some places JAB has 
twice that.

 

From: Heith Petersen via Af 

Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 7:36 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

 

Did you check WSG? They offered me $20 per to by my p9 and above, so maybe they 
sell theirs for $35. I am still trying to find someone to buy mine off me

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Af
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 4:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] WTB a few FSK 100 5.7 SMs

 

If you have a couple you could sell me I'd appreciate it.  Just need a few 
spares.


 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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Re: [AFMUG] OT - stuff Staples carries

2014-12-22 Thread Jeremy via Af
Time to cancel your credit card.

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Somewhere I have a box with a few new PCI modems left over from when we
 still did dialup, I think we used to buy 10-packs.  Not sure if I still
 have the driver disk.  If I find them, I should send them to you.  There
 should be a big box of DSL filters and another big box of Cisco T1 WIC
 cards in the same place.  Soon to be joined by a big box of FSK radios.


 -Original Message- From: Matt Jenkins via Af
 Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 4:04 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - stuff Staples carries


 We still signup 1 new dialup customer every few months. And we are very
 glad staples caries those modems.

 Matthew Jenkins
 SmarterBroadband
 m...@sbbinc.net
 530.272.4000

 On 12/20/2014 06:17 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote:

 I couldn't find a mini USB cable so I ran out to the closest place which
 is Staples.  They had Netgear and Linksys AC3200 routers for just under
 $300, but on the next shelf they had a Zoom USB to v.92 modem dongle.
 Something for everyone.

 That Netgear Nighthawk X6 looks like a futuristic weapon.  Or a giant
 dead bug.









Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

2014-12-22 Thread Caleb Knauer via Af
And when the cyanogen guys go full Captain Insano and the line is dead in a
year I'll still be able to get service on my 3+ year old lame iPhone.  Hehe
sorry just screwing around but some folks take their choice of phone way
too seriously. I hope OPO does well as competition is good but I'm not too
confident at this point.

On Monday, December 22, 2014, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I have a OnePlus One. It's a 5.5 screen, weighs 160 grams. About the same
 size as an iPhone 6+.  It has an awesome battery life:

 http://www.engadget.com/2014/05/08/oneplus-one-review/

 No carrier crapware, no disabled features (tethering), unlocked, no
 contract.

 On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote:

  Not double.  3500 mah versus 3300 mah.

 Screen is only slightly bigger (5 versus 4.7).

 But I'm really happy with this phone.  Don't anticipate switching until
 it dies.  It's a couple years old now, and it is stable, fast, and smooth.

 I don't know about others claims of android crashing.  Mine hasn't
 crashed once in the two years that I've had it.  It may have been an issue
 with early versions of android, but I've only experienced jelly bean (+),
 and it just keeps trucking.

 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


 On 12/21/2014 10:10 AM, Josh Luthman via Af wrote:

 Jump up to the Droid Maxx.  Double the battery.  Screen is a lot bigger,
 though :/

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Dec 21, 2014 1:08 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote:

  My Android fits in either front or back pocket.  It's large with a ~~
 5 (slightly less) screen.  The kevlar back seems to make it very sturdy,
 and I love the long battery life.  DROID RAZR MAXX HD.

 --
 bp
 part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com


 On 12/21/2014 7:30 AM, Darin Steffl via Af wrote:

 Mike,

  The only guys I know that use belt clips to hold their phone are at
 wispa shows. In my everyday life, I know almost no one that have a phone in
 a holster or clip. Most everyone I know including many women put the phone
 in their front pocket as I do myself. Those who sit on their phone in their
 back pocket need some help.

 On Sunday, December 21, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); wrote:

  haha

 This is the type I usually use.


 http://www.seidioonline.com/lg-google-nexus-5-convert-value-pack-black-p/bd5-hkr4lgn5.htm



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Jeremy via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 9:01:03 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

 ...but check out the awesome belt clips that they are making for these
 newer generation phones!
 http://img.tvc-mall.com/uploads/details/MLC-N9005-07-6.jpg

  ...or you could always go the holster route...
 http://www.gizmocrazed.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/163.jpg

 On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

  I'm not sure the phone placement would lessen the harassment.

 Most guys I know use a belt clip (even outside of the IT industry).

 *shrugs*



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  --
 *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 8:01:23 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

  I put mine in my pocket all the time.  If I even thought about using
 the belt clip, the three women (wife and two teen daughters) would harass
 me mercilessly!

 Jeff Broadwick
 ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
 312-205-2519 Office
 574-220-7826 Cell
 jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

 On Dec 21, 2014, at 8:34 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

   Who puts phones in their pockets? Women put theirs in their purse
 or leave them in random places where they are not so you can't possibly
 reach them and men use cases\holsters that go on their belt.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  --
 *From: *Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 12:31:51 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Oh holy oracle of AF

 When I saw the 6+ at the Apple Store I thought it was way over
 sized...especially since it wouldn't fit in pants pockets.



 On Saturday, December 20, 2014, Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

  Did you try and/or considered 6 plus?

  I am considering 6 plus, I don't need to carry iPad ( mainly for
 reading).

 Tushar


 On Dec 20, 2014, at 10:05 PM, Sean Heskett via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

   Just upgraded to an iphone6 and I love it.  It was a little big at
 first compared to my 5s but now I don't think I 

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..

2014-12-22 Thread Rory Conaway via Af
It's pretty good.  We don't have a high noise environment although I can run 
tests in 5.8GHz which would be pretty noisy.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 2:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..

 

How's  your noise?

Gino A. Villarini 

@gvillarini

 

 


On Dec 22, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

The unit is still in Beta mode so all the features aren't fully 
operations.  Right now it's best used with fixed frequencies, either on the 
same channel or split channels.  For example, you can run 40MHz on 5.8HGz and 
40MHz on 5.1GHz for long range links.  When the auto function is implemented 
fully, the radio will make that decision for you.  Right now the radios are 
working fine.  Chuck Hogg is pushing a lot more data through his than I am 
though.  

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt 
via Af
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 5:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..

 

This is what I want and should be possible from looking at the data.

But as there are testers on this forum it might not be neccesary to do 
guesswork ;-)).

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Mike Hammett via Af
Gesendet: Montag, 22. Dezember 2014 13:34
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..

 

I would expect it to be seamless as the radio still has connectivity on 
one channel during all of this.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL  
https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb  
https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions  
https://twitter.com/ICSIL 





From: Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 3:48:20 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..

I'm curious to see what the seamless channel change looks like in terms 
of hiccup across each side of an OSPF /30 between a pair of routers...  How 
many milliseconds of weirdness, if you're logged into a router console on one 
end and pinging the other?

 

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com 
wrote:

Are there still NDAs or can you share you're experience?

Esp. the advanced features like background channel scan with 
seamless channel change and overall stability.

Does channel reuse work, how does it coexist with a ePMP on 
nearby channels ...

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Rory 
Conaway via Af
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Dezember 2014 04:14
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..

 

Chuck is doing more long range testing and we are testing more 
for relaying, higher density deployment for a different model.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince 
via Af
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 4:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5/B5c shipping..

 

I had to look at their web site to remind me what's going on 
there.

They don't use 4 polarities, they use 2.� They're not running 
4x4 MIMO, they're running 2x2 MIMO X 2.� So they use two radios at each end, 
and two separate channels.

--
bp
part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com
 

On 12/19/2014 2:32 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:

So anyone who did the beta on these want to do a 
writeup for the list?

Is the 4x4 all different circular polarization 
variants? Kinda looks like it from the funny antenna elements.

�

Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

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