Re: [AFMUG] Fiber pricing.

2015-01-27 Thread Chuck Hogg
Just be careful on the duct, sometimes it's quoted + shipping.  My quotes
are in-line with Chris, but include shipping...We've been at .33 on the low
side and .40 on the high side for 1.25 SDR11...SDR13.5 can be had for
cheaper, but we don't recommend it.

I've seen pricing all over the place, .75 for 144 is going to be on the
surplus market, we've seen 1.10-1.35 on armored 144ct.

Regards,
Chuck

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Jason Pond p...@grizzlyinternet.com
wrote:

 More like .25/ft for inner duct in bulk and .75/ft for 144 ct fiber.
 Sometime less if found from the right place.

 Try Geoff Richardson with telecom Surplus



 --
 Sincerely,

 Jason Pond
 Grizzly Internet, Inc




Re: [AFMUG] ID this PCB Antenna Connector

2015-01-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Never seen that before.  Any examples where you've seen it?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com wrote:

  unless that antenna connector is disabled in the router firmware.


 vlad


 On 1/27/2015 12:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 You will always be able to add external antennas if there's a connector =)

  Generally speaking people will get a u.fl to N female bulkhead.  Then
 box it up as the radio.  On the tower you have the antenna, N male jumper
 and the radio.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 Thanks guys. Trying to see if we can add external antenna to these new
 routers we're testing.

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Position above it and snap them together, that was pretty easy.
 Disconnecting them was a pain though...


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

  On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 I hate U.Fl.  I think I need to hire a kid with tiny fingers to plug
 those in.

 I concur doctor :)

 On January 27, 2015 8:53:19 AM AKST, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Looks like ufl.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
  On Jan 27, 2015 12:51 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 Can anyone id the connectors on the left? I put a mikrotik with MMCX
 next to it for comparison.


  --
 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.









Re: [AFMUG] ID this PCB Antenna Connector

2015-01-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Position above it and snap them together, that was pretty easy.
Disconnecting them was a pain though...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:


 I hate U.Fl.  I think I need to hire a kid with tiny fingers to plug those
 in.

 I concur doctor :)

 On January 27, 2015 8:53:19 AM AKST, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Looks like ufl.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jan 27, 2015 12:51 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 Can anyone id the connectors on the left? I put a mikrotik with MMCX
 next to it for comparison.


 --
 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.





Re: [AFMUG] ID this PCB Antenna Connector

2015-01-27 Thread Vlad Sedov

unless that antenna connector is disabled in the router firmware.


vlad


On 1/27/2015 12:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
You will always be able to add external antennas if there's a 
connector =)


Generally speaking people will get a u.fl to N female bulkhead.  Then 
box it up as the radio.  On the tower you have the antenna, N male 
jumper and the radio.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com 
mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:


Thanks guys. Trying to see if we can add external antenna to these
new routers we're testing.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

Position above it and snap them together, that was pretty
easy.  Disconnecting them was a pain though...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Adam Moffett
dmmoff...@gmail.com mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:


I hate U.Fl.  I think I need to hire a kid with tiny
fingers to plug those in.

I concur doctor :)

On January 27, 2015 8:53:19 AM AKST, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Looks like ufl.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 27, 2015 12:51 PM, Chris Fabien
ch...@lakenetmi.com mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

Can anyone id the connectors on the left? I put a
mikrotik with MMCX next to it for comparison.


-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse
my brevity. 









Re: [AFMUG] ID this PCB Antenna Connector

2015-01-27 Thread Josh Luthman
You will always be able to add external antennas if there's a connector =)

Generally speaking people will get a u.fl to N female bulkhead.  Then box
it up as the radio.  On the tower you have the antenna, N male jumper and
the radio.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 Thanks guys. Trying to see if we can add external antenna to these new
 routers we're testing.

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 Position above it and snap them together, that was pretty easy.
 Disconnecting them was a pain though...


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 I hate U.Fl.  I think I need to hire a kid with tiny fingers to plug
 those in.

 I concur doctor :)

 On January 27, 2015 8:53:19 AM AKST, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Looks like ufl.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jan 27, 2015 12:51 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 Can anyone id the connectors on the left? I put a mikrotik with MMCX
 next to it for comparison.


 --
 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.







Re: [AFMUG] [FS] Training ONLINE

2015-01-27 Thread Butch Evans

On 01/25/2015 12:38 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

Given a month or two out, i'd try to schedule some of this for the guys.


If this one goes well enough, there will be others to follow.


--
Butch Evans
702-537-0979
Network Support and Engineering
http://store.wispgear.net/
http://www.butchevans.com/


Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-27 Thread Ben Moore
Thanks for the update!

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

  I've tried stopping/starting the controller several times, and have not
 see it again.  So maybe it was a coincidence with the laptop involved.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 1/21/2015 12:09 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

 Hi Bill -

  I have never seen this.  I have done this various times in my tests and
 never had an issue.  Let us know how your testing goes.

  Thanks,
 Ben

 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 AP was not re-provisioned.  She had to re-connect to continue to use it.
 She said the connection just went away.  It was simple to re-connect,
 just unexpected, and not what I would consider nice behavior.

 I will do a couple of controlled tests to see what is happening.

 BTW - We don't have any VMs running in our office; those are all down in
 the colo.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

   On 1/21/2015 11:49 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote:

 Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning?  Did wifi come back up after a
 minute or two?

 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I don't know if this is a bug or not...  Our new Unifi AP has been
 running
 about 24 hours without a hitch.  I started up the controller on my
 desktop,
 and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi.  I had not pushed any
 buttons, merely started the Unifi controller app.

 Is this a known issue?

 Not nice.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

 It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.

 On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:

 The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW),
 but

 I didn't have a lot of choices.  When Unifi didn't work, I googled
 around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.

 But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
 memory.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

 Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to

 manage it.

 On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince

 part15...@gmail.com wrote:

  With all the talk, we got some of these.  Put one up in our office

  this

  morning.  It seems to work OK.

 Controller takes a century to load initially.

 I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.


 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

 On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:

 I have a Unifi AC AP at my house.  Have not been overly impressed.

 I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
 wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you

  found

  lacking?

 ~Seth








Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-27 Thread Bill Prince
I've tried stopping/starting the controller several times, and have not 
see it again.  So maybe it was a coincidence with the laptop involved.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/21/2015 12:09 PM, Ben Moore wrote:

Hi Bill -

I have never seen this.  I have done this various times in my tests 
and never had an issue.  Let us know how your testing goes.


Thanks,
Ben

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com 
mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:


AP was not re-provisioned.  She had to re-connect to continue to
use it.  She said the connection just went away.  It was simple
to re-connect, just unexpected, and not what I would consider nice
behavior.

I will do a couple of controlled tests to see what is happening.

BTW - We don't have any VMs running in our office; those are all
down in the colo.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/21/2015 11:49 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote:

Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning?  Did wifi come back up
after a
minute or two?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince
part15...@gmail.com mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't know if this is a bug or not...  Our new Unifi AP
has been running
about 24 hours without a hitch.  I started up the
controller on my desktop,
and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi.  I had not
pushed any
buttons, merely started the Unifi controller app.

Is this a known issue?

Not nice.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux
emulation libraries.

On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince
part15...@gmail.com mailto:part15...@gmail.com
wrote:

The machine I first loaded it on is running
Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but

I didn't have a lot of choices.  When Unifi didn't
work, I googled
around and found out I needed to roll back java to
7.x.

But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz
quad-core A10 with plenty of
memory.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Depends on the hardware it's on, and the
hardware you're using to

manage it.

On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince

part15...@gmail.com mailto:part15...@gmail.com
wrote:

With all the talk, we got some of these.
Put one up in our office

this

morning.  It seems to work OK.

Controller takes a century to load initially.

I had to time-travel back from 2115 to
write this.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:

I have a Unifi AC AP at my house. 
Have not been overly impressed.


I have two at the office. They don't
do much more than basic office
wireless stuff though and seem to be
fine so far. What have you

found

lacking?

~Seth








Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-27 Thread Bill Prince
I see one thing that could be smoother.  We set up a couple of Unifi 
APs; one here in our office, and another in a large home.  The 
controller was on my traveling laptop.  Now that each of them is 
running, I wanted to move the controller to a VM in our colo.


It seems to me that if you are logged into the active controller, it 
should be a simple push-button to move the controller to another 
running controller.  Maybe you need to have some sort of session going 
between controllers, but that should be relatively easy too.  Or maybe 
(at the most) a push-button receive mode on one controller, and a push 
mode from another controller.


It does not seem right that you need to reset an AP (or APs) to move 
the controller.  Very uncomfortable with this when I have to remote into 
a site in the first place, and reset an AP (or APs) in order to get them 
to link to an L3 controller in the cloud.  Of course, once you've moved 
the controller, then you have to re-load the previous AP configuration.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/21/2015 12:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Yes, run the UniFi Controller at the colo. From there you can control 
every UniFi you place everywhere.


It pulls statistics, handles upgrades, well, everything a controller 
is supposed to do.


It doesn't have to be in a VPN, but that's what I do.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:07:07 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

Run it where?  The colo?  That seems counter productive.  We want a 
more-or-less continuous VPN connection between our colo and the WiFi 
AP in our office?  How is this good?


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/21/2015 12:04 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

So run it there.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:03:29 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

AP was not re-provisioned.  She had to re-connect to continue to use
it.  She said the connection just went away.  It was simple to
re-connect, just unexpected, and not what I would consider nice
behavior.

I will do a couple of controlled tests to see what is happening.

BTW - We don't have any VMs running in our office; those are all
down in
the colo.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/21/2015 11:49 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote:
 Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning?  Did wifi come back up
after a
 minute or two?

 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince
part15...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know if this is a bug or not...  Our new Unifi AP has
been running
 about 24 hours without a hitch.  I started up the controller on
my desktop,
 and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi.  I had not
pushed any
 buttons, merely started the Unifi controller app.

 Is this a known issue?

 Not nice.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
 It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation
libraries.

 On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince
part15...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke
BTW), but

 I didn't have a lot of choices.  When Unifi didn't work, I
googled
 around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.

 But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with
plenty of
 memory.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
 Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're
using to
 manage it.
 On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
 part15...@gmail.com wrote:
 With all the talk, we got some of these.  Put one up in our
office
 this
 morning.  It seems to work OK.

 Controller takes a century to load initially.

 I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.


 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
 On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
 I have a Unifi AC AP at my house.  Have not been overly
impressed.
 I have two at the office. They don't do much more than
basic office
 wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What
have you
 found
 lacking?

 ~Seth









Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-27 Thread Mike Hammett
Request it on their forum. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 3:29:47 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant 

Yah. Seems a bit involved for something you think would be part of the 
basic package. Especially when the APs will all be installed at the 
customer's premises; we don't want to have to do a truck roll to move 
each one into our cloud controller, but with many of them it would be 
required because there's no way (currently) to VPN into their network. 

bp 
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com 

On 1/27/2015 1:20 PM, Caleb Knauer wrote: 
 I would like to see a migration tool of some sort. Our big controller 
 has gotten a bit too big and we are about to split it into multiple 
 pieces. It's an adventure. 
 
 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I see one thing that could be smoother. We set up a couple of Unifi APs; 
 one here in our office, and another in a large home. The controller was on 
 my traveling laptop. Now that each of them is running, I wanted to move the 
 controller to a VM in our colo. 
 
 It seems to me that if you are logged into the active controller, it should 
 be a simple push-button to move the controller to another running 
 controller. Maybe you need to have some sort of session going between 
 controllers, but that should be relatively easy too. Or maybe (at the most) 
 a push-button receive mode on one controller, and a push mode from another 
 controller. 
 
 It does not seem right that you need to reset an AP (or APs) to move the 
 controller. Very uncomfortable with this when I have to remote into a site 
 in the first place, and reset an AP (or APs) in order to get them to link to 
 an L3 controller in the cloud. Of course, once you've moved the controller, 
 then you have to re-load the previous AP configuration. 
 
 bp 
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com 
 
 On 1/21/2015 12:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
 
 Yes, run the UniFi Controller at the colo. From there you can control every 
 UniFi you place everywhere. 
 
 It pulls statistics, handles upgrades, well, everything a controller is 
 supposed to do. 
 
 It doesn't have to be in a VPN, but that's what I do. 
 
 
 
 - 
 Mike Hammett 
 Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 http://www.ics-il.com 
 
  
 From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com 
 To: af@afmug.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:07:07 PM 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant 
 
 Run it where? The colo? That seems counter productive. We want a 
 more-or-less continuous VPN connection between our colo and the WiFi AP in 
 our office? How is this good? 
 
 bp 
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com 
 
 On 1/21/2015 12:04 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
 
 So run it there. 
 
 
 
 - 
 Mike Hammett 
 Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 http://www.ics-il.com 
 
  
 From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com 
 To: af@afmug.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:03:29 PM 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant 
 
 AP was not re-provisioned. She had to re-connect to continue to use 
 it. She said the connection just went away. It was simple to 
 re-connect, just unexpected, and not what I would consider nice behavior. 
 
 I will do a couple of controlled tests to see what is happening. 
 
 BTW - We don't have any VMs running in our office; those are all down in 
 the colo. 
 
 bp 
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com 
 
 On 1/21/2015 11:49 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote: 
 Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning? Did wifi come back up after a 
 minute or two? 
 
 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I don't know if this is a bug or not... Our new Unifi AP has been 
 running 
 about 24 hours without a hitch. I started up the controller on my 
 desktop, 
 and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi. I had not pushed any 
 buttons, merely started the Unifi controller app. 
 
 Is this a known issue? 
 
 Not nice. 
 
 bp 
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com 
 
 On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: 
 It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries. 
 
 On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com 
 wrote: 
 The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but 
 
 I didn't have a lot of choices. When Unifi didn't work, I googled 
 around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x. 
 
 But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of 
 memory. 
 
 bp 
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com 
 
 On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: 
 Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to 
 manage it. 
 On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince 
 part15...@gmail.com wrote: 
 With all the talk, we got some of these. Put one up in our office 
 this 
 morning. It seems to work OK. 
 
 Controller takes a 

[AFMUG] Teltonika Wimax CPE

2015-01-27 Thread Philip Rankin
Hey all, I have a Teltonika 3.65GHz Wimax CPE that I'm having difficulty
programming the radio features, channel bandwidth and channels.  I can't
get Teltonika to respond for any information.  I'm using the default user
username and user password to try to program the thing.

I suspect it is a POS, but since I have it, I would like to see if I can
make it register.  It doesn't at this time.

Anyone have any experience with Teltonika RUT738?

-- 
Philip J. Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762


Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-27 Thread Caleb Knauer
I teach the classes, and a lot of the Unifi students are doing some
variation of this as part of their other included managed services.
So maybe they're AV, put in all the fancy AV stuff and tie together
with Unifi and have a maintenance package for all the hardware
together.  Or managed IT services for small business, or home scaled
IT services, etc.  There's a lot of ways to skin that cat, but I'm not
sure doing solely manged AP's would pay off but maybe you could roll
it into an aggregated managed services package.  Just be mindful that
residential end user support is the opposite of fun (although many not
fun things can be very profitable).

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
 We're thinking a managed WiFi service might be appropriate.  We have quite a
 few subs with really large homes, and a managing a bunch of them could be
 significant overhead.  Wondering if anyone is doing this on any kind of
 production scale, and what seems appropriate for residential service.
 Without giving it a great deal of thought (so this may be high-ball or
 low-ball), I'm thinking something like $5/mrc would be reasonable.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/27/2015 1:20 PM, Caleb Knauer wrote:

 I would like to see a migration tool of some sort.  Our big controller
 has gotten a bit too big and we are about to split it into multiple
 pieces.  It's an adventure.

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 I see one thing that could be smoother.  We set up a couple of Unifi APs;
 one here in our office, and another in a large home.  The controller was
 on
 my traveling laptop.  Now that each of them is running, I wanted to move
 the
 controller to a VM in our colo.

 It seems to me that if you are logged into the active controller, it
 should
 be a simple push-button to move the controller to another running
 controller.  Maybe you need to have some sort of session going between
 controllers, but that should be relatively easy too.  Or maybe (at the
 most)
 a push-button receive mode on one controller, and a push mode from
 another
 controller.

 It does not seem right that you need to reset an AP (or APs) to move
 the
 controller.  Very uncomfortable with this when I have to remote into a
 site
 in the first place, and reset an AP (or APs) in order to get them to link
 to
 an L3 controller in the cloud.  Of course, once you've moved the
 controller,
 then you have to re-load the previous AP configuration.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/21/2015 12:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 Yes, run the UniFi Controller at the colo. From there you can control
 every
 UniFi you place everywhere.

 It pulls statistics, handles upgrades, well, everything a controller is
 supposed to do.

 It doesn't have to be in a VPN, but that's what I do.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 
 From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:07:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

 Run it where?  The colo?  That seems counter productive.  We want a
 more-or-less continuous VPN connection between our colo and the WiFi AP
 in
 our office?  How is this good?

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/21/2015 12:04 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 So run it there.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 
 From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:03:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

 AP was not re-provisioned.  She had to re-connect to continue to use
 it.  She said the connection just went away.  It was simple to
 re-connect, just unexpected, and not what I would consider nice behavior.

 I will do a couple of controlled tests to see what is happening.

 BTW - We don't have any VMs running in our office; those are all down in
 the colo.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/21/2015 11:49 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote:

 Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning?  Did wifi come back up after a
 minute or two?

 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I don't know if this is a bug or not...  Our new Unifi AP has been
 running
 about 24 hours without a hitch.  I started up the controller on my
 desktop,
 and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi.  I had not pushed any
 buttons, merely started the Unifi controller app.

 Is this a known issue?

 Not nice.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

 It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.

 On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince
 part15...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW),
 but

 I didn't have a lot of choices.  When Unifi didn't work, I googled
 around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.

 But it's 

Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-27 Thread Caleb Knauer
I would like to see a migration tool of some sort.  Our big controller
has gotten a bit too big and we are about to split it into multiple
pieces.  It's an adventure.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
 I see one thing that could be smoother.  We set up a couple of Unifi APs;
 one here in our office, and another in a large home.  The controller was on
 my traveling laptop.  Now that each of them is running, I wanted to move the
 controller to a VM in our colo.

 It seems to me that if you are logged into the active controller, it should
 be a simple push-button to move the controller to another running
 controller.  Maybe you need to have some sort of session going between
 controllers, but that should be relatively easy too.  Or maybe (at the most)
 a push-button receive mode on one controller, and a push mode from another
 controller.

 It does not seem right that you need to reset an AP (or APs) to move the
 controller.  Very uncomfortable with this when I have to remote into a site
 in the first place, and reset an AP (or APs) in order to get them to link to
 an L3 controller in the cloud.  Of course, once you've moved the controller,
 then you have to re-load the previous AP configuration.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/21/2015 12:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 Yes, run the UniFi Controller at the colo. From there you can control every
 UniFi you place everywhere.

 It pulls statistics, handles upgrades, well, everything a controller is
 supposed to do.

 It doesn't have to be in a VPN, but that's what I do.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 
 From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:07:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

 Run it where?  The colo?  That seems counter productive.  We want a
 more-or-less continuous VPN connection between our colo and the WiFi AP in
 our office?  How is this good?

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/21/2015 12:04 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 So run it there.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 
 From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:03:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

 AP was not re-provisioned.  She had to re-connect to continue to use
 it.  She said the connection just went away.  It was simple to
 re-connect, just unexpected, and not what I would consider nice behavior.

 I will do a couple of controlled tests to see what is happening.

 BTW - We don't have any VMs running in our office; those are all down in
 the colo.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/21/2015 11:49 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote:
 Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning?  Did wifi come back up after a
 minute or two?

 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know if this is a bug or not...  Our new Unifi AP has been
 running
 about 24 hours without a hitch.  I started up the controller on my
 desktop,
 and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi.  I had not pushed any
 buttons, merely started the Unifi controller app.

 Is this a known issue?

 Not nice.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
 It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.

 On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but

 I didn't have a lot of choices.  When Unifi didn't work, I googled
 around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.

 But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
 memory.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
 Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to
 manage it.
 On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince
 part15...@gmail.com wrote:
 With all the talk, we got some of these.  Put one up in our office
 this
 morning.  It seems to work OK.

 Controller takes a century to load initially.

 I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.


 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
 On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:
 I have a Unifi AC AP at my house.  Have not been overly impressed.
 I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
 wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you
 found
 lacking?

 ~Seth








Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-27 Thread Bill Prince
Yah.  Seems a bit involved for something you think would be part of the 
basic package. Especially when the APs will all be installed at the 
customer's premises; we don't want to have to do a truck roll to move 
each one into our cloud controller, but with many of them it would be 
required because there's no way (currently) to VPN into their network.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/27/2015 1:20 PM, Caleb Knauer wrote:

I would like to see a migration tool of some sort.  Our big controller
has gotten a bit too big and we are about to split it into multiple
pieces.  It's an adventure.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

I see one thing that could be smoother.  We set up a couple of Unifi APs;
one here in our office, and another in a large home.  The controller was on
my traveling laptop.  Now that each of them is running, I wanted to move the
controller to a VM in our colo.

It seems to me that if you are logged into the active controller, it should
be a simple push-button to move the controller to another running
controller.  Maybe you need to have some sort of session going between
controllers, but that should be relatively easy too.  Or maybe (at the most)
a push-button receive mode on one controller, and a push mode from another
controller.

It does not seem right that you need to reset an AP (or APs) to move the
controller.  Very uncomfortable with this when I have to remote into a site
in the first place, and reset an AP (or APs) in order to get them to link to
an L3 controller in the cloud.  Of course, once you've moved the controller,
then you have to re-load the previous AP configuration.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/21/2015 12:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Yes, run the UniFi Controller at the colo. From there you can control every
UniFi you place everywhere.

It pulls statistics, handles upgrades, well, everything a controller is
supposed to do.

It doesn't have to be in a VPN, but that's what I do.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:07:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

Run it where?  The colo?  That seems counter productive.  We want a
more-or-less continuous VPN connection between our colo and the WiFi AP in
our office?  How is this good?

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/21/2015 12:04 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

So run it there.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:03:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

AP was not re-provisioned.  She had to re-connect to continue to use
it.  She said the connection just went away.  It was simple to
re-connect, just unexpected, and not what I would consider nice behavior.

I will do a couple of controlled tests to see what is happening.

BTW - We don't have any VMs running in our office; those are all down in
the colo.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/21/2015 11:49 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote:

Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning?  Did wifi come back up after a
minute or two?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't know if this is a bug or not...  Our new Unifi AP has been
running
about 24 hours without a hitch.  I started up the controller on my
desktop,
and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi.  I had not pushed any
buttons, merely started the Unifi controller app.

Is this a known issue?

Not nice.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.

On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
wrote:

The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but

I didn't have a lot of choices.  When Unifi didn't work, I googled
around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.

But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
memory.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to

manage it.

On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince

part15...@gmail.com wrote:

With all the talk, we got some of these.  Put one up in our office

this

morning.  It seems to work OK.

Controller takes a century to load initially.

I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:

I have a Unifi AC AP at my house.  Have not been overly impressed.

I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have you

found

lacking?

~Seth









Re: [AFMUG] Teltonika Wimax CPE

2015-01-27 Thread That One Guy
Holy cow, you cant get them to respond? Jebus, they call constantly. we
have 2 of their units sitting on the shelf just because I havent thrown
them in the junk mans collection box

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Philip Rankin wireless...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hey all, I have a Teltonika 3.65GHz Wimax CPE that I'm having difficulty
 programming the radio features, channel bandwidth and channels.  I can't
 get Teltonika to respond for any information.  I'm using the default user
 username and user password to try to program the thing.

 I suspect it is a POS, but since I have it, I would like to see if I can
 make it register.  It doesn't at this time.

 Anyone have any experience with Teltonika RUT738?

 --
 Philip J. Rankin
 Wireless Telecommunications Services
 PO Box 24
 Pittsburg, KS  66762




-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] Teltonika Wimax CPE

2015-01-27 Thread That One Guy
Andrius Mackevicius andrius.mackevic...@teltonika.lt is the fella who
calls and emails us... dont mention me to him

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Philip Rankin wireless...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Prolly the best place for them!  Maybe the company too with this response
 performance!

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:46 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Holy cow, you cant get them to respond? Jebus, they call constantly. we
 have 2 of their units sitting on the shelf just because I havent thrown
 them in the junk mans collection box

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Philip Rankin wireless...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hey all, I have a Teltonika 3.65GHz Wimax CPE that I'm having difficulty
 programming the radio features, channel bandwidth and channels.  I can't
 get Teltonika to respond for any information.  I'm using the default user
 username and user password to try to program the thing.

 I suspect it is a POS, but since I have it, I would like to see if I can
 make it register.  It doesn't at this time.

 Anyone have any experience with Teltonika RUT738?

 --
 Philip J. Rankin
 Wireless Telecommunications Services
 PO Box 24
 Pittsburg, KS  66762




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




 --
 Philip J. Rankin
 Wireless Telecommunications Services
 PO Box 24
 Pittsburg, KS  66762




-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925


Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

2015-01-27 Thread Bill Prince
We're thinking a managed WiFi service might be appropriate.  We have 
quite a few subs with really large homes, and a managing a bunch of them 
could be significant overhead.  Wondering if anyone is doing this on any 
kind of production scale, and what seems appropriate for residential 
service.  Without giving it a great deal of thought (so this may be 
high-ball or low-ball), I'm thinking something like $5/mrc would be 
reasonable.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/27/2015 1:20 PM, Caleb Knauer wrote:

I would like to see a migration tool of some sort.  Our big controller
has gotten a bit too big and we are about to split it into multiple
pieces.  It's an adventure.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

I see one thing that could be smoother.  We set up a couple of Unifi APs;
one here in our office, and another in a large home.  The controller was on
my traveling laptop.  Now that each of them is running, I wanted to move the
controller to a VM in our colo.

It seems to me that if you are logged into the active controller, it should
be a simple push-button to move the controller to another running
controller.  Maybe you need to have some sort of session going between
controllers, but that should be relatively easy too.  Or maybe (at the most)
a push-button receive mode on one controller, and a push mode from another
controller.

It does not seem right that you need to reset an AP (or APs) to move the
controller.  Very uncomfortable with this when I have to remote into a site
in the first place, and reset an AP (or APs) in order to get them to link to
an L3 controller in the cloud.  Of course, once you've moved the controller,
then you have to re-load the previous AP configuration.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/21/2015 12:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Yes, run the UniFi Controller at the colo. From there you can control every
UniFi you place everywhere.

It pulls statistics, handles upgrades, well, everything a controller is
supposed to do.

It doesn't have to be in a VPN, but that's what I do.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:07:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

Run it where?  The colo?  That seems counter productive.  We want a
more-or-less continuous VPN connection between our colo and the WiFi AP in
our office?  How is this good?

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/21/2015 12:04 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

So run it there.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:03:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WiFi for restaurant

AP was not re-provisioned.  She had to re-connect to continue to use
it.  She said the connection just went away.  It was simple to
re-connect, just unexpected, and not what I would consider nice behavior.

I will do a couple of controlled tests to see what is happening.

BTW - We don't have any VMs running in our office; those are all down in
the colo.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/21/2015 11:49 AM, Caleb Knauer wrote:

Sounds like the AP was re-provisioning?  Did wifi come back up after a
minute or two?

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't know if this is a bug or not...  Our new Unifi AP has been
running
about 24 hours without a hitch.  I started up the controller on my
desktop,
and my partners laptop lost connection to WiFi.  I had not pushed any
buttons, merely started the Unifi controller app.

Is this a known issue?

Not nice.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/20/2015 11:54 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

It runs like shit on windows. It's using Linux emulation libraries.

On January 20, 2015 10:48:12 AM AKST, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
wrote:

The machine I first loaded it on is running Windows 8.1 (puke BTW), but

I didn't have a lot of choices.  When Unifi didn't work, I googled
around and found out I needed to roll back java to 7.x.

But it's a pretty snappy machine; 3.7 GHz quad-core A10 with plenty of
memory.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/20/2015 11:40 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Depends on the hardware it's on, and the hardware you're using to

manage it.

On January 20, 2015 10:18:31 AM AKST, Bill Prince

part15...@gmail.com wrote:

With all the talk, we got some of these.  Put one up in our office

this

morning.  It seems to work OK.

Controller takes a century to load initially.

I had to time-travel back from 2115 to write this.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/13/2015 2:08 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 1/13/15 13:49, Daniel White wrote:

I have a Unifi AC AP at my house.  Have not been overly impressed.

I have two at the office. They don't do much more than basic office
wireless stuff though and seem to be fine so far. What have 

Re: [AFMUG] And this is the agency that wants to tax and regulate us

2015-01-27 Thread cstanners
Ring ring ring ring Obamaphone

-Original Message-
From: Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
Sender: Af af-boun...@afmug.com
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 20:21:15 
To: af@afmug.comaf@afmug.com
Reply-To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] And this is the agency that wants to tax and regulate us

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/01/26/phone-company-outraged-by-fraud-abuse-in-obamaphone-program/

The FCC can't even create a program that can regulate a simple program like 
handing out phones without massive fraud and corruption.I say give them 
more tax money, the Comcast corporate jet needs an interior upgrade to haul 
around more politicians.

Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless
4226 S. 37th Street
Phoenix, Az.  85040
602-426-0542
www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net
r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net





Re: [AFMUG] Teltonika Wimax CPE

2015-01-27 Thread Philip Rankin
Prolly the best place for them!  Maybe the company too with this response
performance!

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:46 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Holy cow, you cant get them to respond? Jebus, they call constantly. we
 have 2 of their units sitting on the shelf just because I havent thrown
 them in the junk mans collection box

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Philip Rankin wireless...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hey all, I have a Teltonika 3.65GHz Wimax CPE that I'm having difficulty
 programming the radio features, channel bandwidth and channels.  I can't
 get Teltonika to respond for any information.  I'm using the default user
 username and user password to try to program the thing.

 I suspect it is a POS, but since I have it, I would like to see if I can
 make it register.  It doesn't at this time.

 Anyone have any experience with Teltonika RUT738?

 --
 Philip J. Rankin
 Wireless Telecommunications Services
 PO Box 24
 Pittsburg, KS  66762




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




-- 
Philip J. Rankin
Wireless Telecommunications Services
PO Box 24
Pittsburg, KS  66762


Re: [AFMUG] Teltonika Wimax CPE

2015-01-27 Thread Steve D
Yeah, unfortunately we didn't get far with these guys despite the
persistence of the sales dude.  I believe it requires an engineering
firmware or credentials or some such and they weren't exactly jumping to
hand that out.  If I recall, they want to sell you, in bulk, units that are
pre-programmed from the factory.

I could be completely out to lunch here and it was a couple years ago now,
I had very little dealings with it in person.  I certainly know we didn't
end up buying any!

-Steve D


On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Andrius Mackevicius andrius.mackevic...@teltonika.lt is the fella who
 calls and emails us... dont mention me to him

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Philip Rankin wireless...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Prolly the best place for them!  Maybe the company too with this response
 performance!

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:46 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Holy cow, you cant get them to respond? Jebus, they call constantly. we
 have 2 of their units sitting on the shelf just because I havent thrown
 them in the junk mans collection box

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Philip Rankin wireless...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hey all, I have a Teltonika 3.65GHz Wimax CPE that I'm having
 difficulty programming the radio features, channel bandwidth and channels.
 I can't get Teltonika to respond for any information.  I'm using the
 default user username and user password to try to program the thing.

 I suspect it is a POS, but since I have it, I would like to see if I
 can make it register.  It doesn't at this time.

 Anyone have any experience with Teltonika RUT738?

 --
 Philip J. Rankin
 Wireless Telecommunications Services
 PO Box 24
 Pittsburg, KS  66762




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




 --
 Philip J. Rankin
 Wireless Telecommunications Services
 PO Box 24
 Pittsburg, KS  66762




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925



Re: [AFMUG] is fiber more brittle in cold?

2015-01-27 Thread Chuck McCown
That includes splicers, as the human splicers, too.  

From: Carlos Alcantar 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 12:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] is fiber more brittle in cold?

Also remember the splicers them selfs may not operate the same at lower 
temperatures, we have notices a bit more bad splices in the cold.


Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member 
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com / http://www.race.com


From: Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com
Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
Date: Monday, January 26, 2015 at 10:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] is fiber more brittle in cold?



BTW:ï¿1Ž2 What finally worked for me in this guy's barn was warming up the 
strand for a few seconds with a heat gun.ï¿1Ž2 Then strip, clean, and cleave as 
quick as I could.ï¿1Ž2 Suddenly everything worked.


  Double yes. My guys always heat the enclosures up in the trailer before 
splicing. ï¿1Ž2Leave it alone it will never break, clean it and strip it cold 
your in trouble. ï¿1Ž2




  On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
wrote:


Yeah, it's a bit of a pain to work with in the cold. Since I don't have a 
splice trailer I usually set up my telco tent and put a propane heater inside 
to help warm it up a bit before I work with it.

On Thursday, January 22, 2015, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:

  Maybe this is a dumb question:

  Is fiber optic cable more brittle in the cold?ï¿1Ž2 I was attempting to 
do a mechanical splice in an interconnect box on a cable between a heated 
building and an unheated barn.ï¿1Ž2 In the heated building I didn't have much 
problem.ï¿1Ž2 In the cold barn (single digits Fahrenheit) I kept snapping the 
glass when stripping it and broke it off inside the mechanical splice more than 
once.ï¿1Ž2 I also noticed the 250um acrylic coating seemed to stick to the 
900um tight buffer, so when I stripped the tight buffer the acrylic would come 
with itI never saw that before.ï¿1Ž2 Is this just because it's cold?ï¿1Ž2 
It was also dark and I was working in space where I'm wedged between a Brush 
Hog and the wall.ï¿1Ž2 I also might just suck at it.






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Re: [AFMUG] Alvarion- 2.5Ghz WIMAX network 75 sites

2015-01-27 Thread Andy Trimmell
Those buildings look yum!

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 12:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Alvarion- 2.5Ghz WIMAX network 75 sites

 

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Re: [AFMUG] is fiber more brittle in cold?

2015-01-27 Thread Carlos Alcantar
Lol yes they get a little grumpy in the cold


Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.commailto:car...@race.com / 
http://www.race.comhttp://www.race.com/


From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.commailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 6:27 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] is fiber more brittle in cold?

That includes splicers, as the human splicers, too.

From: Carlos Alcantarmailto:car...@race.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 12:56 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] is fiber more brittle in cold?

Also remember the splicers them selfs may not operate the same at lower 
temperatures, we have notices a bit more bad splices in the cold.


Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010
Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.commailto:car...@race.com / 
http://www.race.comhttp://www.race.com/


From: Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.commailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com
Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com 
af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Date: Monday, January 26, 2015 at 10:26 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] is fiber more brittle in cold?


BTW:ï¿1Ž2 What finally worked for me in this guy's barn was warming up the 
strand for a few seconds with a heat gun.ï¿1Ž2 Then strip, clean, and cleave as 
quick as I could.ï¿1Ž2 Suddenly everything worked.

Double yes. My guys always heat the enclosures up in the trailer before 
splicing. ï¿1Ž2Leave it alone it will never break, clean it and strip it cold 
your in trouble. ï¿1Ž2



On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Jason McKemie 
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.commailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com 
wrote:

Yeah, it's a bit of a pain to work with in the cold. Since I don't have a 
splice trailer I usually set up my telco tent and put a propane heater inside 
to help warm it up a bit before I work with it.

On Thursday, January 22, 2015, Adam Moffett 
dmmoff...@gmail.commailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe this is a dumb question:

Is fiber optic cable more brittle in the cold?ï¿1Ž2 I was attempting to do a 
mechanical splice in an interconnect box on a cable between a heated building 
and an unheated barn.ï¿1Ž2 In the heated building I didn't have much 
problem.ï¿1Ž2 In the cold barn (single digits Fahrenheit) I kept snapping the 
glass when stripping it and broke it off inside the mechanical splice more than 
once.ï¿1Ž2 I also noticed the 250um acrylic coating seemed to stick to the 
900um tight buffer, so when I stripped the tight buffer the acrylic would come 
with itI never saw that before.ï¿1Ž2 Is this just because it's cold?ï¿1Ž2 
It was also dark and I was working in space where I'm wedged between a Brush 
Hog and the wall.ï¿1Ž2 I also might just suck at it.





Re: [AFMUG] Alvarion- 2.5Ghz WIMAX network 75 sites

2015-01-27 Thread Peter Kranz
Lots of junk, but lots of nice Eltek 48V flatpacks..

 

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 9:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Alvarion- 2.5Ghz WIMAX network 75 sites

 

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Get it while it's hot! Only $375K



Re: [AFMUG] Alvarion- 2.5Ghz WIMAX network 75 sites

2015-01-27 Thread Randy Cosby

Openrange?

On 1/27/2015 4:08 PM, Peter Kranz wrote:


Lots of junk, but lots of nice Eltek 48V flatpacks..

*Peter Kranz
*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Monday, January 26, 2015 9:11 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Alvarion- 2.5Ghz WIMAX network 75 sites

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Re: [AFMUG] ID this PCB Antenna Connector

2015-01-27 Thread Adam Moffett


I hate U.Fl.  I think I need to hire a kid with tiny fingers to plug 
those in.

I concur doctor :)

On January 27, 2015 8:53:19 AM AKST, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


Looks like ufl.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 27, 2015 12:51 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com
mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

Can anyone id the connectors on the left? I put a mikrotik
with MMCX next to it for comparison.


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Re: [AFMUG] ID this PCB Antenna Connector

2015-01-27 Thread Chris Fabien
Thanks guys. Trying to see if we can add external antenna to these new
routers we're testing.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Position above it and snap them together, that was pretty easy.
 Disconnecting them was a pain though...


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:


 I hate U.Fl.  I think I need to hire a kid with tiny fingers to plug
 those in.

 I concur doctor :)

 On January 27, 2015 8:53:19 AM AKST, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Looks like ufl.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Jan 27, 2015 12:51 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 Can anyone id the connectors on the left? I put a mikrotik with MMCX
 next to it for comparison.


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Re: [AFMUG] AF2015 List setup

2015-01-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

disappointing that we can't start rodizio discussions on af2015 until FEB 2...

b. lol


  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul McCall 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 3:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF2015 List setup


  +1 LOL  

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard
  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 4:32 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF2015 List setup

   

  Looks like Josh is asking for a wet noodle lashing for not actually reading 
Paul’s email…….

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 3:21 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF2015 List setup

   

  OK, please post to the list when/how if you wouldn't mind =)




   

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

   

  On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:

  It will be a manual subscription…. 

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 3:51 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF2015 List setup

   

  Are you putting people in it or do we need to subscribe manually?

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Jan 16, 2015 3:36 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:

  Guys,

   

  We are going to be setting up a separate list for the AFMUG conference.  It 
will be called AF2015 and be active to sign up for a few days before the event. 
  You will need to subscribe to AF2015, but do NOT unsubscribe from it or our 
API will unsubscribe you from the main AFMUG list as well.  (no good work 
around for that as everything ties through the API to work with Amazon)

   

  So…  You can join but you can never leave, haha!

   

  Seriously, after the event when people stop posting, we will just remove the 
list.  There will be an archive for the AF2015 group that can be accessed until 
such time as Chuck says to stop it (indefinitely is acceptable)

   

  SPECIFIC DETAILS FOR SIGNUP WILL BE ANNOUNCED on Monday, Feb 2nd.  If have 
any immediate questions, please email 
probablynotgonnagetarespo...@bepatientplease.com

   

  Paul J

   

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Re: [AFMUG] Alvarion- 2.5Ghz WIMAX network 75 sites

2015-01-27 Thread Bill Prince

Wonder if the price includes the 2.5 GHz license?

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 1/26/2015 9:10 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111065551821

Get it while it's hot! Only $375K




Re: [AFMUG] ID this PCB Antenna Connector

2015-01-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Looks like ufl.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 27, 2015 12:51 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 Can anyone id the connectors on the left? I put a mikrotik with MMCX next
 to it for comparison.



Re: [AFMUG] ID this PCB Antenna Connector

2015-01-27 Thread Vlad Sedov

U.FL maybe?


vlad

On 1/27/2015 11:51 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:


Can anyone id the connectors on the left? I put a mikrotik with MMCX 
next to it for comparison.






Re: [AFMUG] ID this PCB Antenna Connector

2015-01-27 Thread Vlad Sedov

Quick-draw Josh strikes again.. lol


vlad


On 1/27/2015 11:53 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Looks like ufl.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 27, 2015 12:51 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com 
mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:


Can anyone id the connectors on the left? I put a mikrotik with
MMCX next to it for comparison.





Re: [AFMUG] ID this PCB Antenna Connector

2015-01-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
I concur doctor :)

On January 27, 2015 8:53:19 AM AKST, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:
Looks like ufl.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 27, 2015 12:51 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 Can anyone id the connectors on the left? I put a mikrotik with MMCX
next
 to it for comparison.


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