Re: [AFMUG] What does somebody hope to accomplish DDoSing ARIN?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Probably a distraction while they do something else
On Apr 29, 2016 4:39 PM, "Brian Meredith" 
wrote:

> Probably trying to extort some IPv4 address space from them!
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
> wrote:
>
>> Hopefully not just for the lulz...
>>
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

[Jason McKemie]

What do the gigapoints cost?

On Saturday, April 30, 2016, Craig Schmaderer 
wrote:

> I decided not to use 844G for a couple of reasons.
> 1.  I can buy a gigapoint and 844E a bit cheaper
> 2.  It alows us to install gigapoints anywhere usually in the basement
> with very short fiber runs then we can install the 844E anywhere else with
> an easy ethernet run.
> 3. If homeowner wants to use their own router they can and i dont have to
> run a 844G in bridge mode.
>
> Otherwise the 844G is a sweet product.
>
> Craig schmaderer
> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 11:06 AM -0700, "ch...@wbmfg.com
> "  > wrote:
>
> APC connector.
>
> *From:* David Kunat 
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 30, 2016 10:38 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>
> On the wan side.
>
> On Apr 30, 2016, at 8:33 AM, David Kunat  > wrote:
>
> Do they have one with a SFP port?
>
> On Apr 30, 2016, at 7:29 AM,  >  > wrote:
>
> There is a version of it that has an optical GPON interface too.
>
> *From:* Josh Baird 
> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 5:46 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>
> So.. are most people using the GigaCenter 844E?
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Paul Stewart  > wrote:
>
>> Ahh.. interesting .. thanks for that …
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Craig
>> Schmaderer
>> *Sent:* April 29, 2016 6:10 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>
>>
>>
>> All routers do have this default Admin that the home owners can use to do
>> some settings.  The Support account is the one that we use that gives you
>> all the settings, and voip settings, and remote management.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> *Craig R. Schmaderer*
>>
>> *CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.*
>>
>> *Ph: 402-372-1975 <402-372-1975> | Fax: 402-372-1058 <402-372-1058>*
>>
>> *Direct: 402-372-1052 <402-372-1052>*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *
>> ch...@wbmfg.com 
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 4:12 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>
>>
>>
>> I think that is the portal.  The customer uses the QR code on the
>> router.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Paul Stewart
>> 
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 2:21 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>
>>
>>
>> Is that via the home gateway itself or via a centralized system (like
>> TR69 portal) etc?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *
>> ch...@wbmfg.com 
>> *Sent:* April 29, 2016 1:37 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>
>>
>>
>> The customers do have the ability to set up curfews, usage rules, time of
>> day usage, rules for particular devices etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sterling Jacobson
>> 
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 10:20 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>
>>
>>
>> Sean, do they have access to the calix themselves?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Sean
>> Heskett
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 10:02 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>
>>
>>
>> People don't really call that much once they have a calix.  UPnP opens
>> most ports that users would need unless they are running their own servers
>> (which we don't allow anyway) but if they have their own sever surely they
>> are 

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Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

[Sorin Esanu]

There will be an AE for Gigacenters. No idea about Gigapoint


> On 30 Apr 2016, at 22:45, David Kunat  wrote:
> 
> APC connector on a AE version? If so that would be perfect!
> 
> I wonder how well the various GPON (supposedly standard) OLT's would work 
> with the 844G or the gigapoint.
> 
> Would there be a AE/APC version of the gigapoint?
> 
> The website does not show you much until you are a customer...
> 
> On Apr 30, 2016, at 10:06 AM, > 
> > wrote:
> 
>> APC connector. 
>>  
>> From: David Kunat 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 10:38 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>  
>> On the wan side.
>> 
>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 8:33 AM, David Kunat > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Do they have one with a SFP port?
>>> 
>>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 7:29 AM, > 
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
 There is a version of it that has an optical GPON interface too. 
  
 From: Josh Baird 
 Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 5:46 PM
 To: af@afmug.com 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
  
 So.. are most people using the GigaCenter 844E?
  
 On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Paul Stewart > wrote:
 Ahh.. interesting .. thanks for that …
 
  
 
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
 Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
 Sent: April 29, 2016 6:10 PM
 
 
 To: af@afmug.com 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
  
 
 All routers do have this default Admin that the home owners can use to do 
 some settings.  The Support account is the one that we use that gives you 
 all the settings, and voip settings, and remote management. 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 Craig R. Schmaderer
 
 CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
 
 Ph: 402-372-1975  | Fax: 402-372-1058 
 Direct: 402-372-1052 
  
 
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
 Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
 Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 4:12 PM
 To: af@afmug.com 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
 
  
 
 I think that is the portal.  The customer uses the QR code on the router. 
 
  
 
 From: Paul Stewart 
 Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:21 PM
 
 To: af@afmug.com 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
 
  
 
 Is that via the home gateway itself or via a centralized system (like TR69 
 portal) etc?
 
  
 
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
 Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
 Sent: April 29, 2016 1:37 PM
 To: af@afmug.com 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
 
  
 
 The customers do have the ability to set up curfews, usage rules, time of 
 day usage, rules for particular devices etc. 
 
  
 
 From: Sterling Jacobson 
 Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:20 AM
 
 To: af@afmug.com 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
 
  
 
 Sean, do they have access to the calix themselves?
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
 Behalf Of Sean Heskett
 Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:02 AM
 To: af@afmug.com 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
 
  
 
 People don't really call that much once they have a calix.  UPnP opens 
 most ports that users would need unless they are running their own servers 
 (which we don't allow anyway) but if they have their own sever surely they 
 are technical enough to figure out port forwarding etc.
 
  
 
 
 
 On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Sterling Jacobson > wrote:
 
 That sounds interesting.
 
  
 
 I kind of like the idea of a rented supported system.
 
  
 
 But I don’t like the idea of people calling in every time their wireless 
 doesn’t reach their attic, or to open up ports to their gaming thingy.
 
  
 
 So my real question is this, at $7 a month, does 

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

[David Kunat]

APC connector on a AE version? If so that would be perfect!

I wonder how well the various GPON (supposedly standard) OLT's would work with 
the 844G or the gigapoint.

Would there be a AE/APC version of the gigapoint?

The website does not show you much until you are a customer...

> On Apr 30, 2016, at 10:06 AM,   wrote:
> 
> APC connector. 
>  
> From: David Kunat
> Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 10:38 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>  
> On the wan side.
> 
> On Apr 30, 2016, at 8:33 AM, David Kunat  wrote:
> 
>> Do they have one with a SFP port?
>> 
>>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 7:29 AM,   wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is a version of it that has an optical GPON interface too. 
>>>  
>>> From: Josh Baird
>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 5:46 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>>  
>>> So.. are most people using the GigaCenter 844E?
>>>  
 On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
 Ahh.. interesting .. thanks for that …
 
  
 
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
 Sent: April 29, 2016 6:10 PM
 
 
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
  
 
 All routers do have this default Admin that the home owners can use to do 
 some settings.  The Support account is the one that we use that gives you 
 all the settings, and voip settings, and remote management. 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 Craig R. Schmaderer
 
 CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
 
 Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
 
 Direct: 402-372-1052
 
  
 
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
 Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 4:12 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
 
  
 
 I think that is the portal.  The customer uses the QR code on the router. 
 
  
 
 From: Paul Stewart
 
 Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:21 PM
 
 To: af@afmug.com
 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
 
  
 
 Is that via the home gateway itself or via a centralized system (like TR69 
 portal) etc?
 
  
 
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
 Sent: April 29, 2016 1:37 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
 
  
 
 The customers do have the ability to set up curfews, usage rules, time of 
 day usage, rules for particular devices etc. 
 
  
 
 From: Sterling Jacobson
 
 Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:20 AM
 
 To: af@afmug.com
 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
 
  
 
 Sean, do they have access to the calix themselves?
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
 Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:02 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
 
  
 
 People don't really call that much once they have a calix.  UPnP opens 
 most ports that users would need unless they are running their own servers 
 (which we don't allow anyway) but if they have their own sever surely they 
 are technical enough to figure out port forwarding etc.
 
  
 
 
 
 On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Sterling Jacobson  
 wrote:
 
 That sounds interesting.
 
  
 
 I kind of like the idea of a rented supported system.
 
  
 
 But I don’t like the idea of people calling in every time their wireless 
 doesn’t reach their attic, or to open up ports to their gaming thingy.
 
  
 
 So my real question is this, at $7 a month, does it make enough money to 
 hire someone full time to answer the phones on these and be the go-to guy 
 for every single problem on their internal network?
 
  
 
 If not, then I’m fine staying completely away from this (and hiring people 
 to man the phone calls).
 
  
 
  
 
 From: Af [mailto:javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] On 
 Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
 Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 5:01 PM
 To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
 
  
 
 It is a addon straight from calix.  Ask your sales rep.
 
 Craig schmaderer
 Skywave Wireless, Inc.
 
  
 
  
 
 On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:21 AM -0700, "Chris Fabien" 
 

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

[chuck]

We have asked them to put POE on that pair so the 844E could POE the Gigapoint. 
 Then it would be a killer combo.  


From: Craig Schmaderer 
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 12:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

I decided not to use 844G for a couple of reasons.  
1.  I can buy a gigapoint and 844E a bit cheaper
2.  It alows us to install gigapoints anywhere usually in the basement with 
very short fiber runs then we can install the 844E anywhere else with an easy 
ethernet run. 
3. If homeowner wants to use their own router they can and i dont have to run a 
844G in bridge mode. 

Otherwise the 844G is a sweet product. 

Craig schmaderer
Skywave Wireless, Inc.





On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 11:06 AM -0700, "ch...@wbmfg.com"  
wrote:


APC connector.  

From: David Kunat 
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

On the wan side.

On Apr 30, 2016, at 8:33 AM, David Kunat  wrote:


  Do they have one with a SFP port?

  On Apr 30, 2016, at 7:29 AM,   wrote:


There is a version of it that has an optical GPON interface too.  

From: Josh Baird 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 5:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

So.. are most people using the GigaCenter 844E?

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:

  Ahh.. interesting .. thanks for that … 



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
  Sent: April 29, 2016 6:10 PM


  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways


  All routers do have this default Admin that the home owners can use to do 
some settings.  The Support account is the one that we use that gives you all 
the settings, and voip settings, and remote management.  





  



  



  Craig R. Schmaderer

  CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.

  Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058

  Direct: 402-372-1052



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 4:12 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways



  I think that is the portal.  The customer uses the QR code on the router. 
 



  From: Paul Stewart 

  Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:21 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways



  Is that via the home gateway itself or via a centralized system (like 
TR69 portal) etc?



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: April 29, 2016 1:37 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways



  The customers do have the ability to set up curfews, usage rules, time of 
day usage, rules for particular devices etc.  



  From: Sterling Jacobson 

  Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:20 AM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways



  Sean, do they have access to the calix themselves?







  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
  Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:02 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways



  People don't really call that much once they have a calix.  UPnP opens 
most ports that users would need unless they are running their own servers 
(which we don't allow anyway) but if they have their own sever surely they are 
technical enough to figure out port forwarding etc.





  On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Sterling Jacobson  
wrote:

That sounds interesting.



I kind of like the idea of a rented supported system.



But I don’t like the idea of people calling in every time their 
wireless doesn’t reach their attic, or to open up ports to their gaming thingy.



So my real question is this, at $7 a month, does it make enough money 
to hire someone full time to answer the phones on these and be the go-to guy 
for every single problem on their internal network?



If not, then I’m fine staying completely away from this (and hiring 
people to man the phone calls).





From: Af [mailto:javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] 
On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 5:01 PM
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways



It is a addon straight from calix.  Ask your sales rep. 

Craig schmaderer
Skywave Wireless, Inc.





On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:21 AM -0700, "Chris Fabien" 
 wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

[Craig Schmaderer]

I decided not to use 844G for a couple of reasons.
1.  I can buy a gigapoint and 844E a bit cheaper
2.  It alows us to install gigapoints anywhere usually in the basement with 
very short fiber runs then we can install the 844E anywhere else with an easy 
ethernet run.
3. If homeowner wants to use their own router they can and i dont have to run a 
844G in bridge mode.

Otherwise the 844G is a sweet product.

Craig schmaderer
Skywave Wireless, Inc.




On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 11:06 AM -0700, "ch...@wbmfg.com" 
> wrote:

APC connector.

From: David Kunat
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

On the wan side.

On Apr 30, 2016, at 8:33 AM, David Kunat 
> wrote:

Do they have one with a SFP port?

On Apr 30, 2016, at 7:29 AM, > 
> wrote:

There is a version of it that has an optical GPON interface too.

From: Josh Baird
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 5:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

So.. are most people using the GigaCenter 844E?

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Paul Stewart 
> wrote:
Ahh.. interesting .. thanks for that …

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: April 29, 2016 6:10 PM

To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

All routers do have this default Admin that the home owners can use to do some 
settings.  The Support account is the one that we use that gives you all the 
settings, and voip settings, and remote management.






Craig R. Schmaderer
CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
Direct: 402-372-1052

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of 
ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 4:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

I think that is the portal.  The customer uses the QR code on the router.

From: Paul Stewart
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

Is that via the home gateway itself or via a centralized system (like TR69 
portal) etc?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of 
ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: April 29, 2016 1:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

The customers do have the ability to set up curfews, usage rules, time of day 
usage, rules for particular devices etc.

From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

Sean, do they have access to the calix themselves?



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

People don't really call that much once they have a calix.  UPnP opens most 
ports that users would need unless they are running their own servers (which we 
don't allow anyway) but if they have their own sever surely they are technical 
enough to figure out port forwarding etc.



On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
That sounds interesting.

I kind of like the idea of a rented supported system.

But I don’t like the idea of people calling in every time their wireless 
doesn’t reach their attic, or to open up ports to their gaming thingy.

So my real question is this, at $7 a month, does it make enough money to hire 
someone full time to answer the phones on these and be the go-to guy for every 
single problem on their internal network?

If not, then I’m fine staying completely away from this (and hiring people to 
man the phone calls).


From: Af [mailto:javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] On 
Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 5:01 PM
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

It is a addon straight from calix.  Ask your sales rep.
Craig schmaderer
Skywave Wireless, Inc.


On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:21 AM -0700, "Chris Fabien" 
 wrote:

Craig how are you getting the 5yr warranty?
On Apr 28, 2016 9:01 AM, "Craig Schmaderer" 
 wrote:
If you use consumer connect the are even cheaper.  

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

[chuck]

APC connector.  

From: David Kunat 
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 10:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

On the wan side.

On Apr 30, 2016, at 8:33 AM, David Kunat  wrote:


  Do they have one with a SFP port?

  On Apr 30, 2016, at 7:29 AM,   wrote:


There is a version of it that has an optical GPON interface too.  

From: Josh Baird 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 5:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

So.. are most people using the GigaCenter 844E?

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:

  Ahh.. interesting .. thanks for that … 



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
  Sent: April 29, 2016 6:10 PM


  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways


  All routers do have this default Admin that the home owners can use to do 
some settings.  The Support account is the one that we use that gives you all 
the settings, and voip settings, and remote management.  





  



  



  Craig R. Schmaderer

  CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.

  Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058

  Direct: 402-372-1052



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 4:12 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways



  I think that is the portal.  The customer uses the QR code on the router. 
 



  From: Paul Stewart 

  Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:21 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways



  Is that via the home gateway itself or via a centralized system (like 
TR69 portal) etc?



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: April 29, 2016 1:37 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways



  The customers do have the ability to set up curfews, usage rules, time of 
day usage, rules for particular devices etc.  



  From: Sterling Jacobson 

  Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:20 AM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways



  Sean, do they have access to the calix themselves?







  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
  Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:02 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways



  People don't really call that much once they have a calix.  UPnP opens 
most ports that users would need unless they are running their own servers 
(which we don't allow anyway) but if they have their own sever surely they are 
technical enough to figure out port forwarding etc.





  On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Sterling Jacobson  
wrote:

That sounds interesting.



I kind of like the idea of a rented supported system.



But I don’t like the idea of people calling in every time their 
wireless doesn’t reach their attic, or to open up ports to their gaming thingy.



So my real question is this, at $7 a month, does it make enough money 
to hire someone full time to answer the phones on these and be the go-to guy 
for every single problem on their internal network?



If not, then I’m fine staying completely away from this (and hiring 
people to man the phone calls).





From: Af [mailto:javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] 
On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 5:01 PM
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways



It is a addon straight from calix.  Ask your sales rep. 

Craig schmaderer
Skywave Wireless, Inc.





On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:21 AM -0700, "Chris Fabien" 
 wrote:

Craig how are you getting the 5yr warranty?

On Apr 28, 2016 9:01 AM, "Craig Schmaderer" 
 wrote:

  If you use consumer connect the are even cheaper.  Best routers i 
have ever sold.  We are starting to use their gigapoints with a 844E and sell a 
$7 managed service.  We have about a 90% take rate.  I also get them with 5 
year warrantys so i know i will never loose money on them. They also have an 
app for the home owner that we are starting to use.  

  Craig schmaderer
  Skywave Wireless, Inc.





  On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:04 AM -0700, "Chuck McCown" 
 wrote:

  We have been renting them out for $8/mo

  Nice thing is we can totally get 

Re: [AFMUG] ptp 450 revisited

[Sean Heskett]

Yes you can, but I'd actually recommend 14.1.2(build 10) instead of
14.1.1.  Or just wait a cpl weeks for the actual 14.1.2 release.

-Sean

On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Jerry Head  wrote:

> Can one upgrade directly to 14.1.1 from 13.4?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 48v to 24v Poe converter

[chuck]

Yeah, each transformer chip is about $5.

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 11:02 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48v to 24v Poe converter

I'm guessing they didn't design it the way you would... just using cheap PoE 
magnetics would make a pretty huge difference in price, wouldn't it?


On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 10:32 AM,  wrote:

  I would sure like to see the insides of one of those.
  It has to have two POE sets of magnetics, a buck converter plus PCB, case, 
connectors etc.
  Lots of expensive parts.  I guess if they are making 10,000 pcs at a time the 
costs come down some, but that price they are quoting doesn’t do much more than 
cover the cost of the parts the way I would design it.  

  From: Craig House 
  Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 8:27 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: [AFMUG] 48v to 24v Poe converter

  http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/mobile/Product.aspx?id=2771

  Anyone ever tried these. We have a Poe media converter putting out 48v and 
want to run a 24v bh on it 

  Thoughts 

  Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

[Sorin Esanu]

There is no version with SFP port, at least not as in a port that you can 
change the optic and use it with any kind of uplink.
The 844G (fibre version) can only work (for now) in GPON environment (Calix 
E7). I believe they will release the AE version sometime this year. There is no 
generic SFP version planned, from what I know.


> On 30 Apr 2016, at 19:38, David Kunat  wrote:
> 
> On the wan side.
> 
> On Apr 30, 2016, at 8:33 AM, David Kunat  > wrote:
> 
>> Do they have one with a SFP port?
>> 
>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 7:29 AM, > 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>>> There is a version of it that has an optical GPON interface too. 
>>>  
>>> From: Josh Baird 
>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 5:46 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>>  
>>> So.. are most people using the GigaCenter 844E?
>>>  
>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Paul Stewart >> > wrote:
>>> Ahh.. interesting .. thanks for that …
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
>>> Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
>>> Sent: April 29, 2016 6:10 PM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To: af@afmug.com 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>>  
>>> 
>>> All routers do have this default Admin that the home owners can use to do 
>>> some settings.  The Support account is the one that we use that gives you 
>>> all the settings, and voip settings, and remote management. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Craig R. Schmaderer
>>> 
>>> CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>>> 
>>> Ph: 402-372-1975  | Fax: 402-372-1058 
>>> Direct: 402-372-1052 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
>>> Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 4:12 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I think that is the portal.  The customer uses the QR code on the router. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Paul Stewart 
>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:21 PM
>>> 
>>> To: af@afmug.com 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Is that via the home gateway itself or via a centralized system (like TR69 
>>> portal) etc?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
>>> Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
>>> Sent: April 29, 2016 1:37 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The customers do have the ability to set up curfews, usage rules, time of 
>>> day usage, rules for particular devices etc. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Sterling Jacobson 
>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:20 AM
>>> 
>>> To: af@afmug.com 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Sean, do they have access to the calix themselves?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
>>> Behalf Of Sean Heskett
>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:02 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> People don't really call that much once they have a calix.  UPnP opens most 
>>> ports that users would need unless they are running their own servers 
>>> (which we don't allow anyway) but if they have their own sever surely they 
>>> are technical enough to figure out port forwarding etc.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Sterling Jacobson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> That sounds interesting.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I kind of like the idea of a rented supported system.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> But I don’t like the idea of people calling in every time their wireless 
>>> doesn’t reach their attic, or to open up ports to their gaming thingy.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> So my real question is this, at $7 a month, does it make enough money to 
>>> hire someone full time to answer the phones on these and be the go-to guy 
>>> for every single problem on their internal network?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> If not, then I’m fine staying completely away from this (and hiring people 
>>> to man the phone calls).
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com'); <>] 
>>> On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 5:01 PM
>>> To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); <>
>>> 

Re: [AFMUG] 48v to 24v Poe converter

[Mathew Howard]

I'm guessing they didn't design it the way you would... just using cheap
PoE magnetics would make a pretty huge difference in price, wouldn't it?

On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 10:32 AM,  wrote:

> I would sure like to see the insides of one of those.
> It has to have two POE sets of magnetics, a buck converter plus PCB, case,
> connectors etc.
> Lots of expensive parts.  I guess if they are making 10,000 pcs at a time
> the costs come down some, but that price they are quoting doesn’t do much
> more than cover the cost of the parts the way I would design it.
>
> *From:* Craig House 
> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 8:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 48v to 24v Poe converter
>
> http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/mobile/Product.aspx?id=2771
>
> Anyone ever tried these. We have a Poe media converter putting out 48v and
> want to run a 24v bh on it
>
> Thoughts
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways

[David Kunat]

On the wan side.

> On Apr 30, 2016, at 8:33 AM, David Kunat  wrote:
> 
> Do they have one with a SFP port?
> 
>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 7:29 AM,   wrote:
>> 
>> There is a version of it that has an optical GPON interface too. 
>>  
>> From: Josh Baird
>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 5:46 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home  Gateways
>>  
>> So.. are most people using the GigaCenter 844E?
>>  
>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Paul Stewart  wrote:
>>> Ahh.. interesting .. thanks for that …
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
>>> Sent: April 29, 2016 6:10 PM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>>  
>>> 
>>> All routers do have this default Admin that the home owners can use to do 
>>> some settings.  The Support account is the one that we use that gives you 
>>> all the settings, and voip settings, and remote management. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Craig R. Schmaderer
>>> 
>>> CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>>> 
>>> Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058
>>> 
>>> Direct: 402-372-1052
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 4:12 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I think that is the portal.  The customer uses the QR code on the router. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Paul Stewart
>>> 
>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 2:21 PM
>>> 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Is that via the home gateway itself or via a centralized system (like TR69 
>>> portal) etc?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>>> Sent: April 29, 2016 1:37 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The customers do have the ability to set up curfews, usage rules, time of 
>>> day usage, rules for particular devices etc. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Sterling Jacobson
>>> 
>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:20 AM
>>> 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Sean, do they have access to the calix themselves?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:02 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> People don't really call that much once they have a calix.  UPnP opens most 
>>> ports that users would need unless they are running their own servers 
>>> (which we don't allow anyway) but if they have their own sever surely they 
>>> are technical enough to figure out port forwarding etc.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2016, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That sounds interesting.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I kind of like the idea of a rented supported system.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> But I don’t like the idea of people calling in every time their wireless 
>>> doesn’t reach their attic, or to open up ports to their gaming thingy.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> So my real question is this, at $7 a month, does it make enough money to 
>>> hire someone full time to answer the phones on these and be the go-to guy 
>>> for every single problem on their internal network?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> If not, then I’m fine staying completely away from this (and hiring people 
>>> to man the phone calls).
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Af [mailto:javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] On 
>>> Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 5:01 PM
>>> To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix or others 802.11ac Home Gateways
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> It is a addon straight from calix.  Ask your sales rep.
>>> 
>>> Craig schmaderer
>>> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:21 AM -0700, "Chris Fabien" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Craig how are you getting the 5yr warranty?
>>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2016 9:01 AM, "Craig Schmaderer" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you use consumer connect the are even cheaper.  Best routers i have ever 
>>> sold.  We are starting to use their gigapoints with a 844E and sell a $7 
>>> managed service.  We have about a 90% take rate.  I also get them with 5 
>>> year warrantys so i know i will never loose money on them. They also have 
>>> an app for the home owner that we are starting to use. 
>>> 
>>> Craig schmaderer
>>> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 

Re: [AFMUG] Riddle me this Batman

[Jaime Solorza]

Might be Moxa AWK series in 5Ghz
On Apr 30, 2016 10:16 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> Yes similar but these are some industrial type radio vendor out of
> Dallasthe Vivint use three or four pigtails to a four port antenna. At
> least ones I have seen...
> On Apr 30, 2016 10:11 AM,  wrote:
>
>> I have seen Vivint stuff that looks like that.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 30, 2016 9:57 AM
>> *To:* Animal Farm 
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Riddle me this Batman
>>
>>
>> Saw these installed at Haskwell WWTP last week anyone have any idea
>> who makes these?
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Riddle me this Batman

[Jaime Solorza]

Yes similar but these are some industrial type radio vendor out of
Dallasthe Vivint use three or four pigtails to a four port antenna. At
least ones I have seen...
On Apr 30, 2016 10:11 AM,  wrote:

> I have seen Vivint stuff that looks like that.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza 
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 30, 2016 9:57 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Riddle me this Batman
>
>
> Saw these installed at Haskwell WWTP last week anyone have any idea
> who makes these?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Riddle me this Batman

[chuck]

I have seen Vivint stuff that looks like that.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 9:57 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Riddle me this Batman

Saw these installed at Haskwell WWTP last week anyone have any idea who 
makes these?

Re: [AFMUG] 48v to 24v Poe converter

[chuck]

I would sure like to see the insides of one of those.
It has to have two POE sets of magnetics, a buck converter plus PCB, case, 
connectors etc.
Lots of expensive parts.  I guess if they are making 10,000 pcs at a time the 
costs come down some, but that price they are quoting doesn’t do much more than 
cover the cost of the parts the way I would design it.  

From: Craig House 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 8:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] 48v to 24v Poe converter

http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/mobile/Product.aspx?id=2771

Anyone ever tried these. We have a Poe media converter putting out 48v and want 
to run a 24v bh on it 

Thoughts 

Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 Firmware

[Sean Heskett]

13.2.1 or 14.1.2(build 10) is also good, but beta.  14.1.2 should be out
"real soon"

13.4 has RADIUS issues, but if you don't use radius it's pretty stable.

-Sean

On Friday, April 29, 2016, Chris Wright  wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> What latest firmware have you found is the most stable for your setup?
>
>
>
> Chris Wright
>
> Network Administrator
>
> Velociter Wireless
>
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 48v to 24v Poe converter

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Shireeninc as well as laird pacific have some as well..

Keep in mind that these devices get hot. ... we have been less than thrilled 
with the reliability of ubnt ones.


Regards

Faisal

Sent from Mobile Device

 Original message From: David Kunat 
 Date:04/29/2016  11:55 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 48v to 24v Poe 
converter 
Another option: https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/instant/instant8023af.pdf

On Apr 29, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Craig House  wrote:

http://www.titanwirelessonline.com/mobile/Product.aspx?id=2771

Anyone ever tried these. We have a Poe media converter putting out 48v and want 
to run a 24v bh on it 

Thoughts 

Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] Enclosure AC install

[Jaime Solorza]

Gracias
On Apr 29, 2016 11:10 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen"  wrote:

> What the heck Jamie… that tap to focus is really working out for you, like
> for 2/3 photos man—excellente!  (:
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 15:27
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Enclosure AC install
>
>
>
> On Apr 29, 2016 4:23 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> We got unit this morning.   Installed in 2 1/2 hours
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Enclosure AC install

[Jaime Solorza]

Saginaw... and AC as well
On Apr 29, 2016 10:16 PM, "David Kunat"  wrote:

> Who makes that cabinet?
>
> On Apr 29, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
>
> Nice!
>
>
>
> I like the AC install.
>
>
>
> I’m doing up another fiber cabinet, installed the cable management and
> mounted the UPS this afternoon in about 30 mins on my way home from work.
>
>
>
> AC unit is already installed, also waiting on power inspection.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2016 4:24 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Enclosure AC install
>
>
>
> We got unit this morning.   Installed in 2 1/2 hours
>
> <20160429_154356-min.jpg>
>
>