date:20160917

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d

2016-09-17 Thread George Skorup

The 450d is cool. Pricing is decent for what you get (40Mbps and no 
reflector needed).

Now, if they get rid of the regular 3.65 SM and make us pay almost $500 
for the new integrated panel version, then that's not going to work for 
me. If they brought the price down in line with the 450d, then that 
would be OK.

On 9/17/2016 10:35 PM, Daniel White wrote:

Cambium is moving towards EOL the reflectors from some of the roadmap 
stuff I’ve seen.  I think the ePMP Force 200/450d type configuration 
and Force 180 design are here to stay.

Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies__

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

dwh...@converge-tech.com 

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve D
*Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:13 PM
*To:* af 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d

So over reflectors.  Love to see lower priced versions of these and 
the reflector crap phased right out.

On Sep 16, 2016 2:13 PM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" > wrote:

That have an integrated 3.65 unit Timothy.  It's only uncapped at
this point, but it exists.  C036045C014A.

Jeff Broadwick

ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

312-205-2519  Office

574-220-7826  Cell

jbroadw...@converge-tech.com 

On Sep 16, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Timothy Steele
> wrote:

I have gotten 5db better with the 450d also inner feed
designed dishes seems to work much better when under a tower
also much more simple to mount on a tower I hope they do the
same with 2.4 and 365 soon

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 12:57 PM SmarterBroadband
> wrote:

+1

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
*Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 9:53 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d

We love it! We have standardized on it

-looks way better that a SM+dish, more professional

-gain the same or 1-2db better

-easier to assemble / align

-less windload

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Ken Hohhof
> wrote:

I see several WISPs deploying the 450d, but I suspect it's
because they don't like reflector dishes, or because of
the 40M license key.

Cambium has indicated the 450d has a little more antenna
gain than the regular 450 SM plus a reflector dish, but
the spec sheets say 25 dBi either way. What are people
really seeing in the field?  Is there a performance
difference in an apples-to-apples comparison?  How much? 
I'm not going to get too excited about 1 dB.

Otherwise, we're looking at the connectorized 450 SM.  Or
the connectorized 450i SM, which is pretty pricey.

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Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d

2016-09-17 Thread Daniel White

Cambium is moving towards EOL the reflectors from some of the roadmap stuff 
I’ve seen.  I think the ePMP Force 200/450d type configuration and Force 180 
design are here to stay.



Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

  dwh...@converge-tech.com



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve D
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:13 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d



So over reflectors.  Love to see lower priced versions of these and the 
reflector crap phased right out.



On Sep 16, 2016 2:13 PM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  > wrote:

That have an integrated 3.65 unit Timothy.  It's only uncapped at this point, 
but it exists.  C036045C014A.

Jeff Broadwick

ConVergence Technologies, Inc.

312-205-2519   Office

574-220-7826   Cell

jbroadw...@converge-tech.com 


On Sep 16, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Timothy Steele  > wrote:

I have gotten 5db better with the 450d also inner feed designed dishes seems to 
work much better when under a tower also much more simple to mount on a tower I 
hope they do the same with 2.4 and 365 soon



On Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 12:57 PM SmarterBroadband  > wrote:

+1



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:53 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d



We love it! We have standardized on it



-looks way better that a SM+dish, more professional

-gain the same or 1-2db better

-easier to assemble / align

-less windload



On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Ken Hohhof  > wrote:

I see several WISPs deploying the 450d, but I suspect it's because they don't 
like reflector dishes, or because of the 40M license key.

Cambium has indicated the 450d has a little more antenna gain than the regular 
450 SM plus a reflector dish, but the spec sheets say 25 dBi either way.  What 
are people really seeing in the field?  Is there a performance difference in an 
apples-to-apples comparison?  How much?  I'm not going to get too excited about 
1 dB.

Otherwise, we're looking at the connectorized 450 SM.  Or the connectorized 
450i SM, which is pretty pricey.





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Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3.0+ - temp config/safe mode?

2016-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman

Dunno.  I suppose it isn't in epmp still :(

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 17, 2016 10:58 PM, "Steve D"  wrote:

> Hell, why is this not just something in all radios by now?
>
> On Sep 16, 2016 5:46 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> Did they add this feature by chance?  I have a radio linked up and it's
>> only offering 10 half/full.  I'm afraid to set it to 100 full from auto and
>> not have access to it again.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d

2016-09-17 Thread Steve D

So over reflectors.  Love to see lower priced versions of these and the
reflector crap phased right out.

On Sep 16, 2016 2:13 PM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  wrote:

That have an integrated 3.65 unit Timothy.  It's only uncapped at this
point, but it exists.  C036045C014A.

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

On Sep 16, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Timothy Steele 
wrote:

I have gotten 5db better with the 450d also inner feed designed dishes
seems to work much better when under a tower also much more simple to mount
on a tower I hope they do the same with 2.4 and 365 soon

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 12:57 PM SmarterBroadband 
wrote:

> +1
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 9:53 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d
>
>
>
> We love it! We have standardized on it
>
>
>
> -looks way better that a SM+dish, more professional
>
> -gain the same or 1-2db better
>
> -easier to assemble / align
>
> -less windload
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I see several WISPs deploying the 450d, but I suspect it's because they
> don't like reflector dishes, or because of the 40M license key.
>
> Cambium has indicated the 450d has a little more antenna gain than the
> regular 450 SM plus a reflector dish, but the spec sheets say 25 dBi either
> way.  What are people really seeing in the field?  Is there a performance
> difference in an apples-to-apples comparison?  How much?  I'm not going to
> get too excited about 1 dB.
>
> Otherwise, we're looking at the connectorized 450 SM.  Or the
> connectorized 450i SM, which is pretty pricey.
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3.0+ - temp config/safe mode?

2016-09-17 Thread Steve D

Hell, why is this not just something in all radios by now?

On Sep 16, 2016 5:46 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Did they add this feature by chance?  I have a radio linked up and it's
> only offering 10 half/full.  I'm afraid to set it to 100 full from auto and
> not have access to it again.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>

Re: [AFMUG] Bama football

2016-09-17 Thread Jay Weekley

Just another classic match between two great teams.  Ro Tide 
Roll!!!


CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:

no problems :)

- Original Message -
*From:* Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)

*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2016 4:40 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bama football

What the heck is going on down there.   If I need to fly down I will.

*Tyson Burris, President**
**Internet Communications Inc.**
**739 Commerce Dr. **
**Franklin, IN 46131 **
***
*317-738-0320  Daytime #*
*317-412-1540  Cell/Direct #*
*Online: **www.surfici.net* 

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!


On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:02 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller
> wrote:



Oh myjalen hurtz overthrew a pass.

Ohthe humanity of it

How could he...

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] Bama football

2016-09-17 Thread Jaime Solorza

Yawn

On Sep 17, 2016 7:36 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> no problems :)
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2016 4:40 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bama football
>
> What the heck is going on down there.   If I need to fly down I will.
>
> *Tyson Burris, President*
>  *Internet Communications Inc.*
>  *739 Commerce Dr.*
>  *Franklin, IN 46131*
>
> *317-738-0320 <317-738-0320> Daytime #*
> *317-412-1540 <317-412-1540> Cell/Direct #*
> *Online: **www.surfici.net* 
>
> Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!
>
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:02 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
> wrote:
>
>
> Oh myjalen hurtz overthrew a pass.
>
> Ohthe humanity of it
>
> How could he...
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Bama football

2016-09-17 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

no problems :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 4:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bama football

  What the heck is going on down there.   If I need to fly down I will.

  Tyson Burris, President 
  Internet Communications Inc. 
  739 Commerce Dr. 
  Franklin, IN 46131 

  317-738-0320 Daytime # 
  317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
  Online: www.surfici.net

  Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

  On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:02 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:

Oh myjalen hurtz overthrew a pass.

Ohthe humanity of it

How could he...

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

2016-09-17 Thread Jaime Solorza

Leaving grandkid birthday party.  I can't hear a thing

On Sep 17, 2016 6:09 PM, "Robert Andrews"  wrote:

> Even better reading AFMUG from the Sawbones pits at the Reno Air Races...
>
> On 09/17/2016 12:25 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
> > Saturday afternoon chatting on AFMUG.  Nothing wrong wrong with
> > that, right.
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

2016-09-17 Thread Robert Andrews

Even better reading AFMUG from the Sawbones pits at the Reno Air Races...

On 09/17/2016 12:25 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
> Saturday afternoon chatting on AFMUG.  Nothing wrong wrong with
> that, right.
> 
>   
>

Re: [AFMUG] Bama football

2016-09-17 Thread Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI)

What the heck is going on down there.   If I need to fly down I will.

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 

317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net

Forgive the brevity, the typos and my fat fingers!

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:02 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Oh myjalen hurtz overthrew a pass.
> 
> Ohthe humanity of it
> 
> How could he...
> 
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>

Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

2016-09-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

im roubleshooting customer issues on my day off and explaining to customer
service for the 100th time they do have to appropriate tools do this
without me, i know, because i made sure they were there, and available, and
i know you know, because i showed you 100 times.

that and a stupid apple airport on a nat customer account turning into
bridge mode, it was tempting to send some faxes from his hp printer

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 3:05 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Swipe right!
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Sep 17, 2016 4:03 PM,  wrote:
>
>> I haven’t noticed much difference, still a ton of deletes every time I
>> open my email client.
>>
>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:02 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives
>>
>>
>> I have noticed I can actually keep up with conversation here now. we
>> must be down to 100 messages a day from where we used to do four or five
>> hundred?
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>>
>> - Reply message -
>> From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
>> To: , 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives
>> Date: Sat, Sep 17, 2016 2:25 PM
>>
>> Saturday afternoon chatting on AFMUG.  Nothing wrong wrong with
>> that, right.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>  Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>
>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.www.MyakkaTech.com
>>
>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For 
>> Lifehttp://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>>
>> Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
>>
>>


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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

2016-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman

Swipe right!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 17, 2016 4:03 PM,  wrote:

> I haven’t noticed much difference, still a ton of deletes every time I
> open my email client.
>
> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller 
> *Sent:* Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:02 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives
>
>
> I have noticed I can actually keep up with conversation here now. we
> must be down to 100 messages a day from where we used to do four or five
> hundred?
>
> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
> To: , 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives
> Date: Sat, Sep 17, 2016 2:25 PM
>
> Saturday afternoon chatting on AFMUG.  Nothing wrong wrong with
> that, right.
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.www.MyakkaTech.com
>
> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For 
> Lifehttp://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>
> Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

2016-09-17 Thread chuck

I haven’t noticed much difference, still a ton of deletes every time I open my 
email client.  

From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

I have noticed I can actually keep up with conversation here now. we must 
be down to 100 messages a day from where we used to do four or five hundred?

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
To: , 
Subject: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives
Date: Sat, Sep 17, 2016 2:25 PM

Saturday afternoon chatting on AFMUG.  Nothing wrong wrong with
that, right.

-- 
Thanks,
 Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.MyakkaTech.com

Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html

Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

2016-09-17 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

I have noticed I can actually keep up with conversation here now. we must 
be down to 100 messages a day from where we used to do four or five hundred?

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
To: , 
Subject: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives
Date: Sat, Sep 17, 2016 2:25 PM

Saturday afternoon chatting on AFMUG.  Nothing wrong wrong with
that, right.

-- 
Thanks,
Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.MyakkaTech.com

Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html

[AFMUG] Bama football

2016-09-17 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

Oh myjalen hurtz overthrew a pass.

Ohthe humanity of it

How could he...

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

2016-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman

Was supposed to get some miles in the twisties but it's rained all day.
Doing it tomorrow.  Won't hear much from me tomorrow :)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 17, 2016 3:55 PM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

> I spent a good part of last night and this morning reconfiguring stuff
> after a kind of important router decided to croak...
>
> On Sep 17, 2016 2:42 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
>> Could be worse. 11GHz radio broke yesterday. Primary climber can't get a
>> babysitter. Backup guy got hammered last night. So this day and everyone
>> can go to hell.
>>
>> On 9/17/2016 2:27 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>
>> Real lives are over rated... at least that's what I'm assuming...
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2016 2:25 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Saturday afternoon chatting on AFMUG.  Nothing wrong wrong with
>>> that, right.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>>  Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>
>>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>>> www.MyakkaTech.com
>>>
>>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
>>> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>>>
>>> Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

2016-09-17 Thread Mathew Howard

I spent a good part of last night and this morning reconfiguring stuff
after a kind of important router decided to croak...

On Sep 17, 2016 2:42 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> Could be worse. 11GHz radio broke yesterday. Primary climber can't get a
> babysitter. Backup guy got hammered last night. So this day and everyone
> can go to hell.
>
> On 9/17/2016 2:27 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> Real lives are over rated... at least that's what I'm assuming...
>
> On Sep 17, 2016 2:25 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
> wrote:
>
>> Saturday afternoon chatting on AFMUG.  Nothing wrong wrong with
>> that, right.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>  Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>
>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>> www.MyakkaTech.com
>>
>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
>> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>>
>> Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

2016-09-17 Thread chuck

The fall colors from the top of the tower

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 1:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

Could be worse. 11GHz radio broke yesterday. Primary climber can't get a 
babysitter. Backup guy got hammered last night. So this day and everyone can go 
to hell.

On 9/17/2016 2:27 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

  Real lives are over rated... at least that's what I'm assuming... 

  On Sep 17, 2016 2:25 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies"  wrote:

Saturday afternoon chatting on AFMUG.  Nothing wrong wrong with
that, right.

--
Thanks,
Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.MyakkaTech.com

Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html

Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

2016-09-17 Thread George Skorup

Could be worse. 11GHz radio broke yesterday. Primary climber can't get a 
babysitter. Backup guy got hammered last night. So this day and everyone 
can go to hell.


On 9/17/2016 2:27 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:


Real lives are over rated... at least that's what I'm assuming...


On Sep 17, 2016 2:25 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" > wrote:


Saturday afternoon chatting on AFMUG.  Nothing wrong wrong with
that, right.



--
Thanks,
 Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com


Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.MyakkaTech.com 

Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL


Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html

Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

2016-09-17 Thread chuck

I may be at the office right now, but tonight I will be in loge seating at 
Cougar Stadium watching BYU vs UCLA.

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 1:27 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

Real lives are over rated... at least that's what I'm assuming... 

On Sep 17, 2016 2:25 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies"  wrote:

  Saturday afternoon chatting on AFMUG.  Nothing wrong wrong with
  that, right.

  --
  Thanks,
  Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com

  Myakka Technologies, Inc.
  www.MyakkaTech.com

  Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
  http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

  Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread George Skorup

CentOS, flow-tools, Cacti + FlowViewer plugin. All free.

Here's one of the reports I like to look at a couple times a day. Top 5 
sources for the last hour. flow-cat does need some horsepower behind it 
for more complex search filters. This one happened to take about 2 
seconds on 12 Xeon cores.

Motherf'ing windows updates by far.

On 9/17/2016 2:07 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

i never had a collector i liked that wasnt an arm and a leg

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:

Netflow is free...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 17, 2016 2:58 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies"
> wrote:

Josh,

I was trying to work within Steve's budget.

Also, I should give a disclaimer.  In my previous life, I was a
programmer.  I still love to program.  Any excuse I get to
write even
a small script/program, I'll do it.

Case in point is netflow.  I wanted to track our nat users. 
Mikrotik,

starting with 6.29, added NAT data to the netflow export.  I
looked at
all the collectors out there and decided they were way
overkill for
what I wanted.  So, I took a day and wrote my own netflow
collector
using perl.  Just grabs the netflow data, filters out the
garbage, and
writes to a tab-delimited text file base of the date and
hour.  Very
simple.  Does exactly what I needed.

--
Best regards,
 Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.MyakkaTech.com 

Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

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Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:37:48 PM, you wrote:

JL> Netflow would do that.ï¿œ Procera might, and it's a big
ass BMU.

JL> Josh Luthman
JL> Office: 937-552-2340 
JL> Direct: 937-552-2343 
JL> 1100 Wayne St
JL> Suite 1337
JL> Troy, OH 45373

JL> On Sep 17, 2016 2:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
JL> > wrote:
JL> I actually wasnt even looking for granular to the PC, I was
JL> just more curious about getting the service or source.

JL> I got on their AirRouter, there is an XboxOne, so thats
probably the cuplrit

JL> There is also a directv and 4 odd vendor MACs im assuming are
JL> the directv slingthings s there is that

JL> long term torch logging would have sufficed at the site router

JL> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman
JL> > wrote:
JL> Powercode will give you daily break down but that doesn't
JL> identify which PC Xbox or phone did it.

JL> Josh Luthman
JL> Office: 937-552-2340 
JL> Direct: 937-552-2343 
JL> 1100 Wayne St
JL> Suite 1337
JL> Troy, OH 45373

JL> On Sep 17, 2016 2:18 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies"
> wrote:
JL> I'm using platypus and radius.ï¿œ I don't know much about
powercode, but
JL> I'm assuming they dump the usage into some type of SQL table.

JL> I wanted a finer detailed usage, so I added some code to
the PLAT SQL
JL> database to give me upload and download by hour for for
each user in a
JL> different table.

JL> Took me a few days to figure out how to do it.ï¿œ Someone
that knows SQL
JL> could bang it out in a few hours tops.ï¿œ Most of my time was
JL> researching SQL triggers.

JL> Having it broken down by hour helps when talking to
customers.ï¿œ I also
JL> wrote some CGI scripts, so the customers can access the
data via a web
JL> page.

JL> --
JL> Best regards,
JL> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ
ï¿œ mailto:m...@mailmt.com 

JL> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
JL> www.MyakkaTech.com 

JL> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
JL> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

JL> Please Donate at Please Donate at
JL> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html

Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

2016-09-17 Thread Mathew Howard

Real lives are over rated... at least that's what I'm assuming...

On Sep 17, 2016 2:25 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
wrote:

> Saturday afternoon chatting on AFMUG.  Nothing wrong wrong with
> that, right.
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.MyakkaTech.com
>
> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>
> Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

2016-09-17 Thread chuck


At least we are not on FB...

-Original Message- 
From: Mark - Myakka Technologies 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 1:25 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives 


Saturday afternoon chatting on AFMUG.  Nothing wrong wrong with
that, right.



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[AFMUG] Josh, Mark and Steve need real lives

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

Saturday afternoon chatting on AFMUG.  Nothing wrong wrong with
that, right.

  

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www.MyakkaTech.com

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Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

That is what I'm using it for.  Everything else out there was
overkill.  So, I wrote my own basic collector based on
http://search.cpan.org/~akoba/Net-Flow-0.03/lib/Net/Flow.pm



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Saturday, September 17, 2016, 3:05:14 PM, you wrote:

TOGs> that would work for refering to timestamps on our DMCA
TOGs> complaints on our nat customers

TOGs> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark - Myakka
TOGs> Technologies  wrote:
TOGs> Josh,

TOGs> I was trying to work within Steve's budget.

TOGs> Also, I should give a disclaimer.ï¿œ In my previous life, I was a
TOGs> programmer.ï¿œ I still love to program.ï¿œ Any excuse I get to write even
TOGs> a small script/program, I'll do it.

TOGs> Case in point is netflow.ï¿œ I wanted to track our nat users.ï¿œ Mikrotik,
TOGs> starting with 6.29, added NAT data to the netflow export.ï¿œ I looked at
TOGs> all the collectors out there and decided they were way overkill for
TOGs> what I wanted.ï¿œ So, I took a day and wrote my own netflow collector
TOGs> using perl.ï¿œ Just grabs the netflow data, filters out the garbage, and
TOGs> writes to a tab-delimited text file base of the date and hour.ï¿œ Very
TOGs> simple.ï¿œ Does exactly what I needed.

TOGs> --
TOGs> Best regards,
TOGs> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ 
mailto:m...@mailmt.com

TOGs> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
TOGs> www.MyakkaTech.com

TOGs> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
TOGs> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

TOGs> Please Donate at Please Donate at
TOGs> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
TOGs> --

TOGs> Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:37:48 PM, you wrote:

JL>> Netflow would do that.ï¿ Procera might, and it's a big ass BMU.

JL>> Josh Luthman
JL>> Office: 937-552-2340
JL>> Direct: 937-552-2343
JL>> 1100 Wayne St
JL>> Suite 1337
JL>> Troy, OH 45373


JL>> On Sep 17, 2016 2:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
JL>>  wrote:
JL>> I actually wasnt even looking for granular to the PC, I was
JL>> just more curious about getting the service or source.


JL>> I got on their AirRouter, there is an XboxOne, so thats probably the 
cuplrit


JL>> There is also a directv and 4 odd vendor MACs im assuming are
JL>> the directv slingthings s there is that


JL>> long term torch logging would have sufficed at the site router


JL>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman
JL>>  wrote:
JL>> Powercode will give you daily break down but that doesn't
JL>> identify which PC Xbox or phone did it.

JL>> Josh Luthman
JL>> Office: 937-552-2340
JL>> Direct: 937-552-2343
JL>> 1100 Wayne St
JL>> Suite 1337
JL>> Troy, OH 45373


JL>> On Sep 17, 2016 2:18 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies"  
wrote:
JL>> I'm using platypus and radius.ï¿ I don't know much about powercode, but
JL>> I'm assuming they dump the usage into some type of SQL table.

JL>> I wanted a finer detailed usage, so I added some code to the PLAT SQL
JL>> database to give me upload and download by hour for for each user in a
JL>> different table.

JL>> Took me a few days to figure out how to do it.ï¿ Someone that knows SQL
JL>> could bang it out in a few hours tops.ï¿ Most of my time was
JL>> researching SQL triggers.

JL>> Having it broken down by hour helps when talking to customers.ï¿ I also
JL>> wrote some CGI scripts, so the customers can access the data via a web
JL>> page.




JL>> --
JL>> Best regards,
JL>> ï¿Markï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ 
mailto:m...@mailmt.com

JL>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
JL>> www.MyakkaTech.com

JL>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
JL>> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

JL>> Please Donate at Please Donate at
JL>> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
JL>> --



JL>> Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:05:03 PM, you wrote:

TOGs>>> powercode

TOGs>>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mark - Myakka
TOGs>>> Technologies  wrote:
TOGs>>> How are you tracking overall usage now?



TOGs>>> --
TOGs>>> Best regards,
TOGs>>> ï¿œ Markï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿œ
TOGs>>> ï¿  ï¿  mailto:m...@mailmt.com

TOGs>>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
TOGs>>> www.MyakkaTech.com

TOGs>>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
TOGs>>> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

TOGs>>> Please Donate at Please Donate at
TOGs>>> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
TOGs>>> --

TOGs>>> Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:40:59 AM, you wrote:

TOGs I forgot to caveat the "I want to" with the "I have 0
TOGs funding from the boss purse"

TOGs On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Daniel White
TOGs  wrote:
TOGs Sandvine :-D

TOGs ï¿

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

i never had a collector i liked that wasnt an arm and a leg

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Netflow is free...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Sep 17, 2016 2:58 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
> wrote:
>
>> Josh,
>>
>> I was trying to work within Steve's budget.
>>
>> Also, I should give a disclaimer.  In my previous life, I was a
>> programmer.  I still love to program.  Any excuse I get to write even
>> a small script/program, I'll do it.
>>
>> Case in point is netflow.  I wanted to track our nat users.  Mikrotik,
>> starting with 6.29, added NAT data to the netflow export.  I looked at
>> all the collectors out there and decided they were way overkill for
>> what I wanted.  So, I took a day and wrote my own netflow collector
>> using perl.  Just grabs the netflow data, filters out the garbage, and
>> writes to a tab-delimited text file base of the date and hour.  Very
>> simple.  Does exactly what I needed.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>
>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>> www.MyakkaTech.com
>>
>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
>> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>>
>> Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
>> --
>>
>> Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:37:48 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> JL> Netflow would do that.ï¿œ Procera might, and it's a big ass BMU.
>>
>> JL> Josh Luthman
>> JL> Office: 937-552-2340
>> JL> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> JL> 1100 Wayne St
>> JL> Suite 1337
>> JL> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> JL> On Sep 17, 2016 2:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>> JL>  wrote:
>> JL> I actually wasnt even looking for granular to the PC, I was
>> JL> just more curious about getting the service or source.
>>
>>
>> JL> I got on their AirRouter, there is an XboxOne, so thats probably the
>> cuplrit
>>
>>
>> JL> There is also a directv and 4 odd vendor MACs im assuming are
>> JL> the directv slingthings s there is that
>>
>>
>> JL> long term torch logging would have sufficed at the site router
>>
>>
>> JL> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman
>> JL>  wrote:
>> JL> Powercode will give you daily break down but that doesn't
>> JL> identify which PC Xbox or phone did it.
>>
>> JL> Josh Luthman
>> JL> Office: 937-552-2340
>> JL> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> JL> 1100 Wayne St
>> JL> Suite 1337
>> JL> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> JL> On Sep 17, 2016 2:18 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" <
>> m...@mailmt.com> wrote:
>> JL> I'm using platypus and radius.ï¿œ I don't know much about powercode,
>> but
>> JL> I'm assuming they dump the usage into some type of SQL table.
>>
>> JL> I wanted a finer detailed usage, so I added some code to the PLAT SQL
>> JL> database to give me upload and download by hour for for each user in a
>> JL> different table.
>>
>> JL> Took me a few days to figure out how to do it.ï¿œ Someone that knows
>> SQL
>> JL> could bang it out in a few hours tops.ï¿œ Most of my time was
>> JL> researching SQL triggers.
>>
>> JL> Having it broken down by hour helps when talking to customers.ï¿œ I
>> also
>> JL> wrote some CGI scripts, so the customers can access the data via a web
>> JL> page.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> JL> --
>> JL> Best regards,
>> JL> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ mailto:
>> m...@mailmt.com
>>
>> JL> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>> JL> www.MyakkaTech.com
>>
>> JL> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
>> JL> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>>
>> JL> Please Donate at Please Donate at
>> JL> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
>> JL> --
>>
>> JL> Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:05:03 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> TOGs>> powercode
>>
>> TOGs>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mark - Myakka
>> TOGs>> Technologies  wrote:
>> TOGs>> How are you tracking overall usage now?
>>
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> --
>> TOGs>> Best regards,
>> TOGs>> ï¿ Markï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿
>> TOGs>> ï¿  ï¿  mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>
>> TOGs>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>> TOGs>> www.MyakkaTech.com
>>
>> TOGs>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
>> TOGs>> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>>
>> TOGs>> Please Donate at Please Donate at
>> TOGs>> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
>> TOGs>> --
>>
>> TOGs>> Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:40:59 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> TOGs>>> I forgot to caveat the "I want to" with the "I have 0
>> TOGs>>> funding from the boss purse"
>>
>> TOGs>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Daniel White 
>> wrote:
>> TOGs>>> Sandvine :-D
>>
>> TOGs>>> ï¿œ
>>
>> TOGs>>> Daniel White
>>
>> TOGs>>> Managing Director ï¿  Hardware Distribution Sales
>>
>> TOGs>>> ConVergence Technologies
>>
>> TOGs>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>
>> TOGs>>> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>>
>> TOGs>>> ï¿œ
>>
>> TOGs>>> From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

that would work for refering to timestamps on our DMCA complaints on our
nat customers

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies  wrote:

> Josh,
>
> I was trying to work within Steve's budget.
>
> Also, I should give a disclaimer.  In my previous life, I was a
> programmer.  I still love to program.  Any excuse I get to write even
> a small script/program, I'll do it.
>
> Case in point is netflow.  I wanted to track our nat users.  Mikrotik,
> starting with 6.29, added NAT data to the netflow export.  I looked at
> all the collectors out there and decided they were way overkill for
> what I wanted.  So, I took a day and wrote my own netflow collector
> using perl.  Just grabs the netflow data, filters out the garbage, and
> writes to a tab-delimited text file base of the date and hour.  Very
> simple.  Does exactly what I needed.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.MyakkaTech.com
>
> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>
> Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
> --
>
> Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:37:48 PM, you wrote:
>
> JL> Netflow would do that.ï¿œ Procera might, and it's a big ass BMU.
>
> JL> Josh Luthman
> JL> Office: 937-552-2340
> JL> Direct: 937-552-2343
> JL> 1100 Wayne St
> JL> Suite 1337
> JL> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> JL> On Sep 17, 2016 2:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> JL>  wrote:
> JL> I actually wasnt even looking for granular to the PC, I was
> JL> just more curious about getting the service or source.
>
>
> JL> I got on their AirRouter, there is an XboxOne, so thats probably the
> cuplrit
>
>
> JL> There is also a directv and 4 odd vendor MACs im assuming are
> JL> the directv slingthings s there is that
>
>
> JL> long term torch logging would have sufficed at the site router
>
>
> JL> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman
> JL>  wrote:
> JL> Powercode will give you daily break down but that doesn't
> JL> identify which PC Xbox or phone did it.
>
> JL> Josh Luthman
> JL> Office: 937-552-2340
> JL> Direct: 937-552-2343
> JL> 1100 Wayne St
> JL> Suite 1337
> JL> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> JL> On Sep 17, 2016 2:18 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
> wrote:
> JL> I'm using platypus and radius.ï¿œ I don't know much about powercode,
> but
> JL> I'm assuming they dump the usage into some type of SQL table.
>
> JL> I wanted a finer detailed usage, so I added some code to the PLAT SQL
> JL> database to give me upload and download by hour for for each user in a
> JL> different table.
>
> JL> Took me a few days to figure out how to do it.ï¿œ Someone that knows
> SQL
> JL> could bang it out in a few hours tops.ï¿œ Most of my time was
> JL> researching SQL triggers.
>
> JL> Having it broken down by hour helps when talking to customers.ï¿œ I
> also
> JL> wrote some CGI scripts, so the customers can access the data via a web
> JL> page.
>
>
>
>
> JL> --
> JL> Best regards,
> JL> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ mailto:
> m...@mailmt.com
>
> JL> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> JL> www.MyakkaTech.com
>
> JL> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
> JL> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>
> JL> Please Donate at Please Donate at
> JL> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
> JL> --
>
> JL> Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:05:03 PM, you wrote:
>
> TOGs>> powercode
>
> TOGs>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mark - Myakka
> TOGs>> Technologies  wrote:
> TOGs>> How are you tracking overall usage now?
>
>
>
> TOGs>> --
> TOGs>> Best regards,
> TOGs>> ï¿ Markï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿
> TOGs>> ï¿  ï¿  mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>
> TOGs>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> TOGs>> www.MyakkaTech.com
>
> TOGs>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
> TOGs>> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>
> TOGs>> Please Donate at Please Donate at
> TOGs>> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
> TOGs>> --
>
> TOGs>> Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:40:59 AM, you wrote:
>
> TOGs>>> I forgot to caveat the "I want to" with the "I have 0
> TOGs>>> funding from the boss purse"
>
> TOGs>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Daniel White 
> wrote:
> TOGs>>> Sandvine :-D
>
> TOGs>>> ï¿œ
>
> TOGs>>> Daniel White
>
> TOGs>>> Managing Director ï¿  Hardware Distribution Sales
>
> TOGs>>> ConVergence Technologies
>
> TOGs>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> TOGs>>> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>
> TOGs>>> ï¿œ
>
> TOGs>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> TOGs>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:37 PM
> TOGs>>> To:af@afmug.com
> TOGs>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage
>
>
>
> TOGs>>> ï¿œ
>
> TOGs>>> Procera :P
>
> TOGs>>> ï¿œ
>
> TOGs>>> On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> TOGs>>>

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman

Netflow is free...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 17, 2016 2:58 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
wrote:

> Josh,
>
> I was trying to work within Steve's budget.
>
> Also, I should give a disclaimer.  In my previous life, I was a
> programmer.  I still love to program.  Any excuse I get to write even
> a small script/program, I'll do it.
>
> Case in point is netflow.  I wanted to track our nat users.  Mikrotik,
> starting with 6.29, added NAT data to the netflow export.  I looked at
> all the collectors out there and decided they were way overkill for
> what I wanted.  So, I took a day and wrote my own netflow collector
> using perl.  Just grabs the netflow data, filters out the garbage, and
> writes to a tab-delimited text file base of the date and hour.  Very
> simple.  Does exactly what I needed.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.MyakkaTech.com
>
> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>
> Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
> --
>
> Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:37:48 PM, you wrote:
>
> JL> Netflow would do that.ï¿œ Procera might, and it's a big ass BMU.
>
> JL> Josh Luthman
> JL> Office: 937-552-2340
> JL> Direct: 937-552-2343
> JL> 1100 Wayne St
> JL> Suite 1337
> JL> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> JL> On Sep 17, 2016 2:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> JL>  wrote:
> JL> I actually wasnt even looking for granular to the PC, I was
> JL> just more curious about getting the service or source.
>
>
> JL> I got on their AirRouter, there is an XboxOne, so thats probably the
> cuplrit
>
>
> JL> There is also a directv and 4 odd vendor MACs im assuming are
> JL> the directv slingthings s there is that
>
>
> JL> long term torch logging would have sufficed at the site router
>
>
> JL> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman
> JL>  wrote:
> JL> Powercode will give you daily break down but that doesn't
> JL> identify which PC Xbox or phone did it.
>
> JL> Josh Luthman
> JL> Office: 937-552-2340
> JL> Direct: 937-552-2343
> JL> 1100 Wayne St
> JL> Suite 1337
> JL> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> JL> On Sep 17, 2016 2:18 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
> wrote:
> JL> I'm using platypus and radius.ï¿œ I don't know much about powercode,
> but
> JL> I'm assuming they dump the usage into some type of SQL table.
>
> JL> I wanted a finer detailed usage, so I added some code to the PLAT SQL
> JL> database to give me upload and download by hour for for each user in a
> JL> different table.
>
> JL> Took me a few days to figure out how to do it.ï¿œ Someone that knows
> SQL
> JL> could bang it out in a few hours tops.ï¿œ Most of my time was
> JL> researching SQL triggers.
>
> JL> Having it broken down by hour helps when talking to customers.ï¿œ I
> also
> JL> wrote some CGI scripts, so the customers can access the data via a web
> JL> page.
>
>
>
>
> JL> --
> JL> Best regards,
> JL> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ mailto:
> m...@mailmt.com
>
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> JL> www.MyakkaTech.com
>
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>
> JL> Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:05:03 PM, you wrote:
>
> TOGs>> powercode
>
> TOGs>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mark - Myakka
> TOGs>> Technologies  wrote:
> TOGs>> How are you tracking overall usage now?
>
>
>
> TOGs>> --
> TOGs>> Best regards,
> TOGs>> ï¿ Markï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿  ï¿
> TOGs>> ï¿  ï¿  mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>
> TOGs>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> TOGs>> www.MyakkaTech.com
>
> TOGs>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
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>
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>
> TOGs>> Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:40:59 AM, you wrote:
>
> TOGs>>> I forgot to caveat the "I want to" with the "I have 0
> TOGs>>> funding from the boss purse"
>
> TOGs>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Daniel White 
> wrote:
> TOGs>>> Sandvine :-D
>
> TOGs>>> ï¿œ
>
> TOGs>>> Daniel White
>
> TOGs>>> Managing Director ï¿  Hardware Distribution Sales
>
> TOGs>>> ConVergence Technologies
>
> TOGs>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> TOGs>>> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>
> TOGs>>> ï¿œ
>
> TOGs>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> TOGs>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:37 PM
> TOGs>>> To:af@afmug.com
> TOGs>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage
>
>
>
> TOGs>>> ï¿œ
>
> TOGs>>> Procera :P
>
> TOGs>>> ï¿œ
>
> TOGs>>> On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> TOGs>>>

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

Josh,

I was trying to work within Steve's budget.

Also, I should give a disclaimer.  In my previous life, I was a
programmer.  I still love to program.  Any excuse I get to write even
a small script/program, I'll do it.

Case in point is netflow.  I wanted to track our nat users.  Mikrotik,
starting with 6.29, added NAT data to the netflow export.  I looked at
all the collectors out there and decided they were way overkill for
what I wanted.  So, I took a day and wrote my own netflow collector
using perl.  Just grabs the netflow data, filters out the garbage, and
writes to a tab-delimited text file base of the date and hour.  Very
simple.  Does exactly what I needed.

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Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:37:48 PM, you wrote:

JL> Netflow would do that.ï¿œ Procera might, and it's a big ass BMU.

JL> Josh Luthman
JL> Office: 937-552-2340
JL> Direct: 937-552-2343
JL> 1100 Wayne St
JL> Suite 1337
JL> Troy, OH 45373


JL> On Sep 17, 2016 2:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
JL>  wrote:
JL> I actually wasnt even looking for granular to the PC, I was
JL> just more curious about getting the service or source.


JL> I got on their AirRouter, there is an XboxOne, so thats probably the cuplrit


JL> There is also a directv and 4 odd vendor MACs im assuming are
JL> the directv slingthings s there is that


JL> long term torch logging would have sufficed at the site router


JL> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman
JL>  wrote:
JL> Powercode will give you daily break down but that doesn't
JL> identify which PC Xbox or phone did it.

JL> Josh Luthman
JL> Office: 937-552-2340
JL> Direct: 937-552-2343
JL> 1100 Wayne St
JL> Suite 1337
JL> Troy, OH 45373


JL> On Sep 17, 2016 2:18 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies"  
wrote:
JL> I'm using platypus and radius.ï¿œ I don't know much about powercode, but
JL> I'm assuming they dump the usage into some type of SQL table.

JL> I wanted a finer detailed usage, so I added some code to the PLAT SQL
JL> database to give me upload and download by hour for for each user in a
JL> different table.

JL> Took me a few days to figure out how to do it.ï¿œ Someone that knows SQL
JL> could bang it out in a few hours tops.ï¿œ Most of my time was
JL> researching SQL triggers.

JL> Having it broken down by hour helps when talking to customers.ï¿œ I also
JL> wrote some CGI scripts, so the customers can access the data via a web
JL> page.




JL> --
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JL> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ 
mailto:m...@mailmt.com

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JL> Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:05:03 PM, you wrote:

TOGs>> powercode

TOGs>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mark - Myakka
TOGs>> Technologies  wrote:
TOGs>> How are you tracking overall usage now?



TOGs>> --
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TOGs>> ï¿ ï¿ mailto:m...@mailmt.com

TOGs>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
TOGs>> www.MyakkaTech.com

TOGs>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
TOGs>> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

TOGs>> Please Donate at Please Donate at
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TOGs>> --

TOGs>> Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:40:59 AM, you wrote:

TOGs>>> I forgot to caveat the "I want to" with the "I have 0
TOGs>>> funding from the boss purse"

TOGs>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Daniel White  
wrote:
TOGs>>> Sandvine :-D

TOGs>>> ï¿œ

TOGs>>> Daniel White

TOGs>>> Managing Director ï¿  Hardware Distribution Sales

TOGs>>> ConVergence Technologies

TOGs>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

TOGs>>> dwh...@converge-tech.com

TOGs>>> ï¿œ

TOGs>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
TOGs>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:37 PM
TOGs>>> To:af@afmug.com
TOGs>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage



TOGs>>> ï¿œ

TOGs>>> Procera :P

TOGs>>> ï¿œ

TOGs>>> On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
TOGs>>>  wrote:




TOGs>>> so we got this:


TOGs>>> "Can yotu help us somehow figure out what is using all of
TOGs>>> our data? We have looked at the daily usage and can not figure
TOGs>>> it out. There are days that we have been gone for several hours
TOGs>>> and the usage is VERY high. Then days we are home have been
TOGs>>> extremely low. We are at a loss; can you help us or recommend
TOGs>>> someone who can. Is there a way to break this down

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman

Netflow would do that.  Procera might, and it's a big ass BMU.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 17, 2016 2:28 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> I actually wasnt even looking for granular to the PC, I was just more
> curious about getting the service or source.
>
> I got on their AirRouter, there is an XboxOne, so thats probably the
> cuplrit
>
> There is also a directv and 4 odd vendor MACs im assuming are the directv
> slingthings s there is that
>
> long term torch logging would have sufficed at the site router
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Powercode will give you daily break down but that doesn't identify which
>> PC Xbox or phone did it.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2016 2:18 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using platypus and radius.  I don't know much about powercode, but
>>> I'm assuming they dump the usage into some type of SQL table.
>>>
>>> I wanted a finer detailed usage, so I added some code to the PLAT SQL
>>> database to give me upload and download by hour for for each user in a
>>> different table.
>>>
>>> Took me a few days to figure out how to do it.  Someone that knows SQL
>>> could bang it out in a few hours tops.  Most of my time was
>>> researching SQL triggers.
>>>
>>> Having it broken down by hour helps when talking to customers.  I also
>>> wrote some CGI scripts, so the customers can access the data via a web
>>> page.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>>  Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>
>>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>>> www.MyakkaTech.com
>>>
>>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
>>> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>>>
>>> Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
>>> --
>>>
>>> Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:05:03 PM, you wrote:
>>>
>>> TOGs> powercode
>>>
>>> TOGs> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mark - Myakka
>>> TOGs> Technologies  wrote:
>>> TOGs> How are you tracking overall usage now?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TOGs> --
>>> TOGs> Best regards,
>>> TOGs> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ
>>> mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>
>>> TOGs> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>>> TOGs> www.MyakkaTech.com
>>>
>>> TOGs> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
>>> TOGs> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>>>
>>> TOGs> Please Donate at Please Donate at
>>> TOGs> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
>>> TOGs> --
>>>
>>> TOGs> Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:40:59 AM, you wrote:
>>>
>>> TOGs>> I forgot to caveat the "I want to" with the "I have 0
>>> TOGs>> funding from the boss purse"
>>>
>>> TOGs>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Daniel White 
>>> wrote:
>>> TOGs>> Sandvine :-D
>>>
>>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>>
>>> TOGs>> Daniel White
>>>
>>> TOGs>> Managing Director ï¿  Hardware Distribution Sales
>>>
>>> TOGs>> ConVergence Technologies
>>>
>>> TOGs>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>>
>>> TOGs>> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>>>
>>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>>
>>> TOGs>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>>> TOGs>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:37 PM
>>> TOGs>> To:af@afmug.com
>>> TOGs>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>>
>>> TOGs>> Procera :P
>>>
>>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>>
>>> TOGs>> On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>>> TOGs>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TOGs>> so we got this:
>>>
>>>
>>> TOGs>> "Can yotu help us somehow figure out what is using all of
>>> TOGs>> our data? We have looked at the daily usage and can not figure
>>> TOGs>> it out. There are days that we have been gone for several hours
>>> TOGs>> and the usage is VERY high. Then days we are home have been
>>> TOGs>> extremely low. We are at a loss; can you help us or recommend
>>> TOGs>> someone who can. Is there a way to break this down hourly?
>>> TOGs>> Thanks!
>>> TOGs>> --"
>>>
>>>
>>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>>
>>>
>>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>>
>>>
>>> TOGs>> this is the one in ten request, the other 9 are normally
>>> TOGs>> "we didnt do this you people are lying,we never use the
>>> TOGs>> internet, our kids follow rules, youre cheating us" in a real
>>> TOGs>> catty voice
>>>
>>>
>>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>>
>>>
>>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>>
>>>
>>> TOGs>> screw those 9 douches, its usually one of the spouses
>>> TOGs>> porn affliction, the kids game console. or the fact they leave 5
>>> TOGs>> units running in the house with netflix on autoplay, if theyre
>>> TOGs>> not illegally torrenting some shit.
>>>
>>>
>>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>>
>>>
>>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>>
>>>
>>> TOGs>> but, there is the one, who arent cocks, they genuinely
>>> TOGs>> want to know. We arent providing them a router, so monitoring
>>> TOGs>> from there directly is out
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

Watch out for DirecTV.  We have had many cases after power outages
that something gets corrupt on the DVR.  It will then try to download
any of the corrupt recorded shows via the internet.

Not to mention their turn back time option.  If you come home and miss
the first 10 minutes of the 2 hour cross over special of Hoarders and
American Pickers and use the turn back time feature,  You are now
watching 2 hours of IPTV over your Internet connection.



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Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:28:42 PM, you wrote:

TOGs> I actually wasnt even looking for granular to the PC, I
TOGs> was just more curious about getting the service or source.


TOGs> I got on their AirRouter, there is an XboxOne, so thats probably the 
cuplrit


TOGs> There is also a directv and 4 odd vendor MACs im assuming
TOGs> are the directv slingthings s there is that


TOGs> long term torch logging would have sufficed at the site router


TOGs> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman
TOGs>  wrote:
TOGs> Powercode will give you daily break down but that doesn't
TOGs> identify which PC Xbox or phone did it.

TOGs> Josh Luthman
TOGs> Office: 937-552-2340
TOGs> Direct: 937-552-2343
TOGs> 1100 Wayne St
TOGs> Suite 1337
TOGs> Troy, OH 45373


TOGs> On Sep 17, 2016 2:18 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies"  
wrote:
TOGs> I'm using platypus and radius.ï¿œ I don't know much about powercode, but
TOGs> I'm assuming they dump the usage into some type of SQL table.

TOGs> I wanted a finer detailed usage, so I added some code to the PLAT SQL
TOGs> database to give me upload and download by hour for for each user in a
TOGs> different table.

TOGs> Took me a few days to figure out how to do it.ï¿œ Someone that knows SQL
TOGs> could bang it out in a few hours tops.ï¿œ Most of my time was
TOGs> researching SQL triggers.

TOGs> Having it broken down by hour helps when talking to customers.ï¿œ I also
TOGs> wrote some CGI scripts, so the customers can access the data via a web
TOGs> page.




TOGs> --
TOGs> Best regards,
TOGs> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ 
mailto:m...@mailmt.com

TOGs> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
TOGs> www.MyakkaTech.com

TOGs> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
TOGs> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

TOGs> Please Donate at Please Donate at
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TOGs> Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:05:03 PM, you wrote:

TOGs>> powercode

TOGs>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mark - Myakka
TOGs>> Technologies  wrote:
TOGs>> How are you tracking overall usage now?



TOGs>> --
TOGs>> Best regards,
TOGs>> ï¿Markï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿
TOGs>> ï¿ ï¿ mailto:m...@mailmt.com

TOGs>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
TOGs>> www.MyakkaTech.com

TOGs>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
TOGs>> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

TOGs>> Please Donate at Please Donate at
TOGs>> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
TOGs>> --

TOGs>> Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:40:59 AM, you wrote:

TOGs>>> I forgot to caveat the "I want to" with the "I have 0
TOGs>>> funding from the boss purse"

TOGs>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Daniel White  
wrote:
TOGs>>> Sandvine :-D

TOGs>>> ï¿œ

TOGs>>> Daniel White

TOGs>>> Managing Director ï¿  Hardware Distribution Sales

TOGs>>> ConVergence Technologies

TOGs>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

TOGs>>> dwh...@converge-tech.com

TOGs>>> ï¿œ

TOGs>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
TOGs>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:37 PM
TOGs>>> To:af@afmug.com
TOGs>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage



TOGs>>> ï¿œ

TOGs>>> Procera :P

TOGs>>> ï¿œ

TOGs>>> On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
TOGs>>>  wrote:




TOGs>>> so we got this:


TOGs>>> "Can yotu help us somehow figure out what is using all of
TOGs>>> our data? We have looked at the daily usage and can not figure
TOGs>>> it out. There are days that we have been gone for several hours
TOGs>>> and the usage is VERY high. Then days we are home have been
TOGs>>> extremely low. We are at a loss; can you help us or recommend
TOGs>>> someone who can. Is there a way to break this down hourly?
TOGs>>> Thanks!
TOGs>>> --"


TOGs>>> ï¿œ


TOGs>>> ï¿œ


TOGs>>> this is the one in ten request, the other 9 are normally
TOGs>>> "we didnt do this you people are lying,we never use the
TOGs>>> internet, our kids follow rules, youre cheating us" in a real
TOGs>>> catty voice


TOGs>>> ï¿œ


TOGs>>> ï¿œ


TOGs>>> screw those 9 douches, its usually one of the spouses
TOGs>>> porn affliction, the kids game console. or the

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

Josh,

Can you break that daily down to the hour? Sometimes that is a huge
help.

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Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:23:36 PM, you wrote:

JL> Powercode will give you daily break down but that doesn't
JL> identify which PC Xbox or phone did it.

JL> Josh Luthman
JL> Office: 937-552-2340
JL> Direct: 937-552-2343
JL> 1100 Wayne St
JL> Suite 1337
JL> Troy, OH 45373


JL> On Sep 17, 2016 2:18 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies"  
wrote:
JL> I'm using platypus and radius.ï¿œ I don't know much about powercode, but
JL> I'm assuming they dump the usage into some type of SQL table.

JL> I wanted a finer detailed usage, so I added some code to the PLAT SQL
JL> database to give me upload and download by hour for for each user in a
JL> different table.

JL> Took me a few days to figure out how to do it.ï¿œ Someone that knows SQL
JL> could bang it out in a few hours tops.ï¿œ Most of my time was
JL> researching SQL triggers.

JL> Having it broken down by hour helps when talking to customers.ï¿œ I also
JL> wrote some CGI scripts, so the customers can access the data via a web
JL> page.




JL> --
JL> Best regards,
JL> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ 
mailto:m...@mailmt.com

JL> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
JL> www.MyakkaTech.com

JL> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
JL> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

JL> Please Donate at Please Donate at
JL> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
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JL> Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:05:03 PM, you wrote:

TOGs>> powercode

TOGs>> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mark - Myakka
TOGs>> Technologies  wrote:
TOGs>> How are you tracking overall usage now?



TOGs>> --
TOGs>> Best regards,
TOGs>> ï¿Markï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿ ï¿
TOGs>> ï¿ ï¿ mailto:m...@mailmt.com

TOGs>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
TOGs>> www.MyakkaTech.com

TOGs>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
TOGs>> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

TOGs>> Please Donate at Please Donate at
TOGs>> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
TOGs>> --

TOGs>> Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:40:59 AM, you wrote:

TOGs>>> I forgot to caveat the "I want to" with the "I have 0
TOGs>>> funding from the boss purse"

TOGs>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Daniel White  
wrote:
TOGs>>> Sandvine :-D

TOGs>>> ï¿œ

TOGs>>> Daniel White

TOGs>>> Managing Director ï¿  Hardware Distribution Sales

TOGs>>> ConVergence Technologies

TOGs>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

TOGs>>> dwh...@converge-tech.com

TOGs>>> ï¿œ

TOGs>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
TOGs>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:37 PM
TOGs>>> To:af@afmug.com
TOGs>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage



TOGs>>> ï¿œ

TOGs>>> Procera :P

TOGs>>> ï¿œ

TOGs>>> On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
TOGs>>>  wrote:




TOGs>>> so we got this:


TOGs>>> "Can yotu help us somehow figure out what is using all of
TOGs>>> our data? We have looked at the daily usage and can not figure
TOGs>>> it out. There are days that we have been gone for several hours
TOGs>>> and the usage is VERY high. Then days we are home have been
TOGs>>> extremely low. We are at a loss; can you help us or recommend
TOGs>>> someone who can. Is there a way to break this down hourly?
TOGs>>> Thanks!
TOGs>>> --"


TOGs>>> ï¿œ


TOGs>>> ï¿œ


TOGs>>> this is the one in ten request, the other 9 are normally
TOGs>>> "we didnt do this you people are lying,we never use the
TOGs>>> internet, our kids follow rules, youre cheating us" in a real
TOGs>>> catty voice


TOGs>>> ï¿œ


TOGs>>> ï¿œ


TOGs>>> screw those 9 douches, its usually one of the spouses
TOGs>>> porn affliction, the kids game console. or the fact they leave 5
TOGs>>> units running in the house with netflix on autoplay, if theyre
TOGs>>> not illegally torrenting some shit.


TOGs>>> ï¿œ


TOGs>>> ï¿œ


TOGs>>> but, there is the one, who arent cocks, they genuinely
TOGs>>> want to know. We arent providing them a router, so monitoring
TOGs>>> from there directly is out


TOGs>>> ï¿œ


TOGs>>> we just recently moved DNS to us (huge value I have
TOGs>>> already found) So whats the best way (to the account, not the
TOGs>>> individual machine) to track this down, in our environment, We
TOGs>>> have mikrotik 1100ahx2 from to AP to the edge, and for the firs
TOGs>>> time, I actually want to set up a tool to help the 10 percent
TOGs>>> and if you guys who know more than me can spit out a script to
TOGs>>> drop in to monitor this customer I can pretend I have value
TOGs>>> within th company. .


TOGs>>> ï¿œ


TOGs>>> ï¿œ


TOGs>>> ï¿œ


TOGs>>> If you only see yourself

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

I actually wasnt even looking for granular to the PC, I was just more
curious about getting the service or source.

I got on their AirRouter, there is an XboxOne, so thats probably the cuplrit

There is also a directv and 4 odd vendor MACs im assuming are the directv
slingthings s there is that

long term torch logging would have sufficed at the site router

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Powercode will give you daily break down but that doesn't identify which
> PC Xbox or phone did it.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Sep 17, 2016 2:18 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm using platypus and radius.  I don't know much about powercode, but
>> I'm assuming they dump the usage into some type of SQL table.
>>
>> I wanted a finer detailed usage, so I added some code to the PLAT SQL
>> database to give me upload and download by hour for for each user in a
>> different table.
>>
>> Took me a few days to figure out how to do it.  Someone that knows SQL
>> could bang it out in a few hours tops.  Most of my time was
>> researching SQL triggers.
>>
>> Having it broken down by hour helps when talking to customers.  I also
>> wrote some CGI scripts, so the customers can access the data via a web
>> page.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>
>> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>> www.MyakkaTech.com
>>
>> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
>> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>>
>> Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
>> --
>>
>> Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:05:03 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> TOGs> powercode
>>
>> TOGs> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mark - Myakka
>> TOGs> Technologies  wrote:
>> TOGs> How are you tracking overall usage now?
>>
>>
>>
>> TOGs> --
>> TOGs> Best regards,
>> TOGs> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ
>> mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>
>> TOGs> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
>> TOGs> www.MyakkaTech.com
>>
>> TOGs> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
>> TOGs> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>>
>> TOGs> Please Donate at Please Donate at
>> TOGs> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
>> TOGs> --
>>
>> TOGs> Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:40:59 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> TOGs>> I forgot to caveat the "I want to" with the "I have 0
>> TOGs>> funding from the boss purse"
>>
>> TOGs>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Daniel White 
>> wrote:
>> TOGs>> Sandvine :-D
>>
>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>
>> TOGs>> Daniel White
>>
>> TOGs>> Managing Director ï¿  Hardware Distribution Sales
>>
>> TOGs>> ConVergence Technologies
>>
>> TOGs>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>
>> TOGs>> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>>
>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>
>> TOGs>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>> TOGs>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:37 PM
>> TOGs>> To:af@afmug.com
>> TOGs>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage
>>
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>
>> TOGs>> Procera :P
>>
>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>
>> TOGs>> On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
>> TOGs>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> so we got this:
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> "Can yotu help us somehow figure out what is using all of
>> TOGs>> our data? We have looked at the daily usage and can not figure
>> TOGs>> it out. There are days that we have been gone for several hours
>> TOGs>> and the usage is VERY high. Then days we are home have been
>> TOGs>> extremely low. We are at a loss; can you help us or recommend
>> TOGs>> someone who can. Is there a way to break this down hourly?
>> TOGs>> Thanks!
>> TOGs>> --"
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> this is the one in ten request, the other 9 are normally
>> TOGs>> "we didnt do this you people are lying,we never use the
>> TOGs>> internet, our kids follow rules, youre cheating us" in a real
>> TOGs>> catty voice
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> screw those 9 douches, its usually one of the spouses
>> TOGs>> porn affliction, the kids game console. or the fact they leave 5
>> TOGs>> units running in the house with netflix on autoplay, if theyre
>> TOGs>> not illegally torrenting some shit.
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> but, there is the one, who arent cocks, they genuinely
>> TOGs>> want to know. We arent providing them a router, so monitoring
>> TOGs>> from there directly is out
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> ï¿
>>
>>
>> TOGs>> we just recently moved DNS to us (huge value I have
>> TOGs>> already found) So whats the best way (to the account, not the
>> TOGs>> individual machine) to track this down, in our environment, We
>> TOGs>> have mikrotik 1100ahx2 from to AP to the edge, and for the firs
>> TOGs>> time, I actually want to set up a tool to help the 10 percent
>> TOGs>> and if you guys who know more than me can

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

this just wont get solved with words. There can be only one.


bring on the fisticuffs

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 1:21 PM,  wrote:

> I'll grant you that there is only so much space for poles. However, I used
> the qualifier not permanently to denote that poles do get replaced, either
> to make room for more cables or because they have a finite lifetime. Hence
> my argument is that while poles do consume non-renevable resources, the
> consumption is not permanent and final, as new poles will replace old ones.
>
> Jared
>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 6:46 PM
> > From: "Chuck McCown" 
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city
> >
> > Poles actually do permanently consume non renewable resources.  There is
> only so much room for a pole line along most streets and roads.  Once that
> room is consumed it is gone.   Even private easements are “perpetual” and
> “run with the land”.
> >
> > From: CBB - Jay Fuller
> > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:53 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city
> >
> >
> > where is my popcorn...
> >
> >   - Original Message -
> >   From: Jaime Solorza
> >   To: Animal Farm
> >   Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 10:38 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city
> >
> >   I will stand in for Chuck, not that he needs help,  just haven't
> tangled in a while... Getting rusty
> >
> >
> >   On Sep 17, 2016 9:23 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > So, will chuck and jared be gladiator fighting in the cage after
> Patrick and whoever challenges him ?
> >
> >
> > On Sep 17, 2016 5:10 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" 
> wrote:
> >
> >   Great post Jared!
> >
> >   Jeff Broadwick
> >   ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> >   312-205-2519 Office
> >   574-220-7826 Cell
> >   jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
> >
> >   On Sep 17, 2016, at 1:16 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >   From: chuck
> >
> >
> >
> >   Why should you even get access to my ducts or my poles in the
> first place?
> >
> > Because you put them in the public right of way.
> > If you want private ducts and poles, go negotiate your own
> easements and build on private land.
> >
> >
> >   I paid to have them put in for my use.
> >
> > So you did. We, the public, still get to set the rules (by
> proxy) on how the poles are to be used on "our" land.
> >
> >
> >   I realize it is somewhat the "law of
> >
> >   the commons" but even then, those who file for a mining claim
> get the spoils
> >
> >   of the mine.  This is just a different kind of mine.
> >
> > The mines analogy isn't really suitable as cables on poles do
> not permanently consume non-renewable resources.
> >
> >
> >   You still pay an attachment fee because you forced the upgrade
> of my pole.
> >
> > That only makes sense if I had to pay you until the old pole was
> paid off. After that you should pay me.
> >
> >
> >   You should be grateful there is a pole there you can use in
> the first place.
> >
> > What's there to be grateful about? I just put in my own damn
> pole.
> > If there was an existing pole there I could use, you should be
> grateful for me paying it off for you.
> >
> >
> >   Why not break out your horizontal directional drill and stay
> the hell off my
> >
> >   poles.
> >
> > Let's see how you like that argument when I pass an ordinance to
> underground all utilities.
> >
> > Just because you were the first one to put in a pole, does not
> mean you should be the only one allowed to benefit from the public right of
> way.
> >
> >
> >   (Chuck McCown is playing the part of the pissed off, privately
> owned,
> >
> >   electrical utility in today's episode.  Chuck McCown is not
> actually a pole
> >
> >   owner but he plays one on TV).
> >
> > Jared is playing the part of the outraged and righteous member
> of public. In real life Jared is just an ordinary citizen.
> >
> > Jared
> >
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman

Powercode will give you daily break down but that doesn't identify which PC
Xbox or phone did it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 17, 2016 2:18 PM, "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
wrote:

> I'm using platypus and radius.  I don't know much about powercode, but
> I'm assuming they dump the usage into some type of SQL table.
>
> I wanted a finer detailed usage, so I added some code to the PLAT SQL
> database to give me upload and download by hour for for each user in a
> different table.
>
> Took me a few days to figure out how to do it.  Someone that knows SQL
> could bang it out in a few hours tops.  Most of my time was
> researching SQL triggers.
>
> Having it broken down by hour helps when talking to customers.  I also
> wrote some CGI scripts, so the customers can access the data via a web
> page.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
>
> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> www.MyakkaTech.com
>
> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>
> Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
> --
>
> Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:05:03 PM, you wrote:
>
> TOGs> powercode
>
> TOGs> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mark - Myakka
> TOGs> Technologies  wrote:
> TOGs> How are you tracking overall usage now?
>
>
>
> TOGs> --
> TOGs> Best regards,
> TOGs> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ
> mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>
> TOGs> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
> TOGs> www.MyakkaTech.com
>
> TOGs> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
> TOGs> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL
>
> TOGs> Please Donate at Please Donate at
> TOGs> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
> TOGs> --
>
> TOGs> Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:40:59 AM, you wrote:
>
> TOGs>> I forgot to caveat the "I want to" with the "I have 0
> TOGs>> funding from the boss purse"
>
> TOGs>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Daniel White 
> wrote:
> TOGs>> Sandvine :-D
>
> TOGs>> ï¿
>
> TOGs>> Daniel White
>
> TOGs>> Managing Director ï¿  Hardware Distribution Sales
>
> TOGs>> ConVergence Technologies
>
> TOGs>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> TOGs>> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>
> TOGs>> ï¿
>
> TOGs>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> TOGs>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:37 PM
> TOGs>> To:af@afmug.com
> TOGs>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage
>
>
>
> TOGs>> ï¿
>
> TOGs>> Procera :P
>
> TOGs>> ï¿
>
> TOGs>> On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> TOGs>>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> TOGs>> so we got this:
>
>
> TOGs>> "Can yotu help us somehow figure out what is using all of
> TOGs>> our data? We have looked at the daily usage and can not figure
> TOGs>> it out. There are days that we have been gone for several hours
> TOGs>> and the usage is VERY high. Then days we are home have been
> TOGs>> extremely low. We are at a loss; can you help us or recommend
> TOGs>> someone who can. Is there a way to break this down hourly?
> TOGs>> Thanks!
> TOGs>> --"
>
>
> TOGs>> ï¿
>
>
> TOGs>> ï¿
>
>
> TOGs>> this is the one in ten request, the other 9 are normally
> TOGs>> "we didnt do this you people are lying,we never use the
> TOGs>> internet, our kids follow rules, youre cheating us" in a real
> TOGs>> catty voice
>
>
> TOGs>> ï¿
>
>
> TOGs>> ï¿
>
>
> TOGs>> screw those 9 douches, its usually one of the spouses
> TOGs>> porn affliction, the kids game console. or the fact they leave 5
> TOGs>> units running in the house with netflix on autoplay, if theyre
> TOGs>> not illegally torrenting some shit.
>
>
> TOGs>> ï¿
>
>
> TOGs>> ï¿
>
>
> TOGs>> but, there is the one, who arent cocks, they genuinely
> TOGs>> want to know. We arent providing them a router, so monitoring
> TOGs>> from there directly is out
>
>
> TOGs>> ï¿
>
>
> TOGs>> we just recently moved DNS to us (huge value I have
> TOGs>> already found) So whats the best way (to the account, not the
> TOGs>> individual machine) to track this down, in our environment, We
> TOGs>> have mikrotik 1100ahx2 from to AP to the edge, and for the firs
> TOGs>> time, I actually want to set up a tool to help the 10 percent
> TOGs>> and if you guys who know more than me can spit out a script to
> TOGs>> drop in to monitor this customer I can pretend I have value
> TOGs>> within th company. .
>
>
> TOGs>> ï¿
>
>
> TOGs>> ï¿
>
>
> TOGs>> ï¿
>
>
> TOGs>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but
> TOGs>> youï¿ don'tï¿ see your team as part of yourself you haveï¿ already
> TOGs>> failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> TOGs>>ï¿œ ï¿œVirus-free. www.avast.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-17 Thread fiberrun

I'll grant you that there is only so much space for poles. However, I used the 
qualifier not permanently to denote that poles do get replaced, either to make 
room for more cables or because they have a finite lifetime. Hence my argument 
is that while poles do consume non-renevable resources, the consumption is not 
permanent and final, as new poles will replace old ones.  

Jared

> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 at 6:46 PM
> From: "Chuck McCown" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city
>
> Poles actually do permanently consume non renewable resources.  There is only 
> so much room for a pole line along most streets and roads.  Once that room is 
> consumed it is gone.   Even private easements are “perpetual” and “run with 
> the land”.  
> 
> From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:53 AM
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city
> 
> 
> where is my popcorn...
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Jaime Solorza 
>   To: Animal Farm 
>   Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 10:38 AM
>   Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city
> 
>   I will stand in for Chuck, not that he needs help,  just haven't tangled in 
> a while... Getting rusty
> 
> 
>   On Sep 17, 2016 9:23 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
>  wrote:
> 
> So, will chuck and jared be gladiator fighting in the cage after Patrick 
> and whoever challenges him ?
> 
> 
> On Sep 17, 2016 5:10 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  
> wrote:
> 
>   Great post Jared!
> 
>   Jeff Broadwick 
>   ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>   312-205-2519 Office
>   574-220-7826 Cell
>   jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
> 
>   On Sep 17, 2016, at 1:16 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:
> 
> 
>   From: chuck
> 
> 
> 
>   Why should you even get access to my ducts or my poles in the first 
> place?
> 
> Because you put them in the public right of way. 
> If you want private ducts and poles, go negotiate your own easements 
> and build on private land. 
> 
> 
>   I paid to have them put in for my use.
> 
> So you did. We, the public, still get to set the rules (by proxy) on 
> how the poles are to be used on "our" land. 
> 
> 
>   I realize it is somewhat the "law of 
> 
>   the commons" but even then, those who file for a mining claim get 
> the spoils 
> 
>   of the mine.  This is just a different kind of mine.
> 
> The mines analogy isn't really suitable as cables on poles do not 
> permanently consume non-renewable resources. 
> 
> 
>   You still pay an attachment fee because you forced the upgrade of 
> my pole. 
> 
> That only makes sense if I had to pay you until the old pole was paid 
> off. After that you should pay me. 
> 
> 
>   You should be grateful there is a pole there you can use in the 
> first place.
> 
> What's there to be grateful about? I just put in my own damn pole. 
> If there was an existing pole there I could use, you should be 
> grateful for me paying it off for you. 
> 
> 
>   Why not break out your horizontal directional drill and stay the 
> hell off my 
> 
>   poles.
> 
> Let's see how you like that argument when I pass an ordinance to 
> underground all utilities. 
> 
> Just because you were the first one to put in a pole, does not mean 
> you should be the only one allowed to benefit from the public right of way. 
> 
> 
>   (Chuck McCown is playing the part of the pissed off, privately 
> owned, 
> 
>   electrical utility in today's episode.  Chuck McCown is not 
> actually a pole 
> 
>   owner but he plays one on TV).
> 
> Jared is playing the part of the outraged and righteous member of 
> public. In real life Jared is just an ordinary citizen. 
> 
> Jared
>

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

I'm using platypus and radius.  I don't know much about powercode, but
I'm assuming they dump the usage into some type of SQL table.

I wanted a finer detailed usage, so I added some code to the PLAT SQL
database to give me upload and download by hour for for each user in a
different table.

Took me a few days to figure out how to do it.  Someone that knows SQL
could bang it out in a few hours tops.  Most of my time was
researching SQL triggers.

Having it broken down by hour helps when talking to customers.  I also
wrote some CGI scripts, so the customers can access the data via a web
page.




-- 
Best regards,
 Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.MyakkaTech.com

Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
--

Saturday, September 17, 2016, 2:05:03 PM, you wrote:

TOGs> powercode

TOGs> On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mark - Myakka
TOGs> Technologies  wrote:
TOGs> How are you tracking overall usage now?



TOGs> --
TOGs> Best regards,
TOGs> ï¿œMarkï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ ï¿œ 
mailto:m...@mailmt.com

TOGs> Myakka Technologies, Inc.
TOGs> www.MyakkaTech.com

TOGs> Proud Sponsor of the Myakka City Relay For Life
TOGs> http://www.RelayForLife.org/MyakkaCityFL

TOGs> Please Donate at Please Donate at
TOGs> http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
TOGs> --

TOGs> Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:40:59 AM, you wrote:

TOGs>> I forgot to caveat the "I want to" with the "I have 0
TOGs>> funding from the boss purse"

TOGs>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Daniel White  wrote:
TOGs>> Sandvine :-D

TOGs>> ï¿

TOGs>> Daniel White

TOGs>> Managing Director ï¿ Hardware Distribution Sales

TOGs>> ConVergence Technologies

TOGs>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

TOGs>> dwh...@converge-tech.com

TOGs>> ï¿

TOGs>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
TOGs>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:37 PM
TOGs>> To:af@afmug.com
TOGs>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage



TOGs>> ï¿

TOGs>> Procera :P

TOGs>> ï¿

TOGs>> On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
TOGs>>  wrote:




TOGs>> so we got this:


TOGs>> "Can yotu help us somehow figure out what is using all of
TOGs>> our data? We have looked at the daily usage and can not figure
TOGs>> it out. There are days that we have been gone for several hours
TOGs>> and the usage is VERY high. Then days we are home have been
TOGs>> extremely low. We are at a loss; can you help us or recommend
TOGs>> someone who can. Is there a way to break this down hourly?
TOGs>> Thanks!
TOGs>> --"


TOGs>> ï¿


TOGs>> ï¿


TOGs>> this is the one in ten request, the other 9 are normally
TOGs>> "we didnt do this you people are lying,we never use the
TOGs>> internet, our kids follow rules, youre cheating us" in a real
TOGs>> catty voice


TOGs>> ï¿


TOGs>> ï¿


TOGs>> screw those 9 douches, its usually one of the spouses
TOGs>> porn affliction, the kids game console. or the fact they leave 5
TOGs>> units running in the house with netflix on autoplay, if theyre
TOGs>> not illegally torrenting some shit.


TOGs>> ï¿


TOGs>> ï¿


TOGs>> but, there is the one, who arent cocks, they genuinely
TOGs>> want to know. We arent providing them a router, so monitoring
TOGs>> from there directly is out


TOGs>> ï¿


TOGs>> we just recently moved DNS to us (huge value I have
TOGs>> already found) So whats the best way (to the account, not the
TOGs>> individual machine) to track this down, in our environment, We
TOGs>> have mikrotik 1100ahx2 from to AP to the edge, and for the firs
TOGs>> time, I actually want to set up a tool to help the 10 percent
TOGs>> and if you guys who know more than me can spit out a script to
TOGs>> drop in to monitor this customer I can pretend I have value
TOGs>> within th company. .


TOGs>> ï¿


TOGs>> ï¿


TOGs>> ï¿


TOGs>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but
TOGs>> youï¿don'tï¿see your team as part of yourself you haveï¿already
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Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

powercode

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies <
m...@mailmt.com> wrote:

> How are you tracking overall usage now?
>
>
>
> --
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>  Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com
>
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>
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>
> Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:40:59 AM, you wrote:
>
> TOGs> I forgot to caveat the "I want to" with the "I have 0 funding from
> the boss purse"
>
> TOGs> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Daniel White 
> wrote:
> TOGs> Sandvine :-D
>
> TOGs> ï¿œ
>
> TOGs> Daniel White
>
> TOGs> Managing Director ï¿œ Hardware Distribution Sales
>
> TOGs> ConVergence Technologies
>
> TOGs> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>
> TOGs> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>
> TOGs> ï¿œ
>
> TOGs> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> TOGs> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:37 PM
> TOGs> To:af@afmug.com
> TOGs> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage
>
>
>
> TOGs> ï¿œ
>
> TOGs> Procera :P
>
> TOGs> ï¿œ
>
> TOGs> On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
> TOGs>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> TOGs> so we got this:
>
>
> TOGs> "Can yotu help us somehow figure out what is using all of
> TOGs> our data? We have looked at the daily usage and can not figure
> TOGs> it out. There are days that we have been gone for several hours
> TOGs> and the usage is VERY high. Then days we are home have been
> TOGs> extremely low. We are at a loss; can you help us or recommend
> TOGs> someone who can. Is there a way to break this down hourly?
> TOGs> Thanks!
> TOGs> --"
>
>
> TOGs> ï¿œ
>
>
> TOGs> ï¿œ
>
>
> TOGs> this is the one in ten request, the other 9 are normally
> TOGs> "we didnt do this you people are lying,we never use the
> TOGs> internet, our kids follow rules, youre cheating us" in a real
> TOGs> catty voice
>
>
> TOGs> ï¿œ
>
>
> TOGs> ï¿œ
>
>
> TOGs> screw those 9 douches, its usually one of the spouses
> TOGs> porn affliction, the kids game console. or the fact they leave 5
> TOGs> units running in the house with netflix on autoplay, if theyre
> TOGs> not illegally torrenting some shit.
>
>
> TOGs> ï¿œ
>
>
> TOGs> ï¿œ
>
>
> TOGs> but, there is the one, who arent cocks, they genuinely
> TOGs> want to know. We arent providing them a router, so monitoring
> TOGs> from there directly is out
>
>
> TOGs> ï¿œ
>
>
> TOGs> we just recently moved DNS to us (huge value I have
> TOGs> already found) So whats the best way (to the account, not the
> TOGs> individual machine) to track this down, in our environment, We
> TOGs> have mikrotik 1100ahx2 from to AP to the edge, and for the firs
> TOGs> time, I actually want to set up a tool to help the 10 percent
> TOGs> and if you guys who know more than me can spit out a script to
> TOGs> drop in to monitor this customer I can pretend I have value
> TOGs> within th company. .
>
>
> TOGs> ï¿œ
>
>
> TOGs> ï¿œ
>
>
> TOGs> ï¿œ
>
>
> TOGs> If you only see yourself as part of the team but
> TOGs> youï¿œdon'tï¿œsee your team as part of yourself you haveï¿œalready
> TOGs> failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> TOGs>   Virus-free. www.avast.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

How are you tracking overall usage now?



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Friday, September 16, 2016, 12:40:59 AM, you wrote:

TOGs> I forgot to caveat the "I want to" with the "I have 0 funding from the 
boss purse"

TOGs> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Daniel White  wrote:
TOGs> Sandvine :-D

TOGs> ï¿œ

TOGs> Daniel White

TOGs> Managing Director ï¿œ Hardware Distribution Sales

TOGs> ConVergence Technologies

TOGs> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

TOGs> dwh...@converge-tech.com

TOGs> ï¿œ

TOGs> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
TOGs> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:37 PM
TOGs> To:af@afmug.com
TOGs> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage



TOGs> ï¿œ

TOGs> Procera :P

TOGs> ï¿œ

TOGs> On Sep 15, 2016 8:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"
TOGs>  wrote:




TOGs> so we got this:


TOGs> "Can yotu help us somehow figure out what is using all of
TOGs> our data? We have looked at the daily usage and can not figure
TOGs> it out. There are days that we have been gone for several hours
TOGs> and the usage is VERY high. Then days we are home have been
TOGs> extremely low. We are at a loss; can you help us or recommend
TOGs> someone who can. Is there a way to break this down hourly?
TOGs> Thanks!
TOGs> --"


TOGs> ï¿œ


TOGs> ï¿œ


TOGs> this is the one in ten request, the other 9 are normally
TOGs> "we didnt do this you people are lying,we never use the
TOGs> internet, our kids follow rules, youre cheating us" in a real
TOGs> catty voice


TOGs> ï¿œ


TOGs> ï¿œ


TOGs> screw those 9 douches, its usually one of the spouses
TOGs> porn affliction, the kids game console. or the fact they leave 5
TOGs> units running in the house with netflix on autoplay, if theyre
TOGs> not illegally torrenting some shit.


TOGs> ï¿œ


TOGs> ï¿œ


TOGs> but, there is the one, who arent cocks, they genuinely
TOGs> want to know. We arent providing them a router, so monitoring
TOGs> from there directly is out


TOGs> ï¿œ


TOGs> we just recently moved DNS to us (huge value I have
TOGs> already found) So whats the best way (to the account, not the
TOGs> individual machine) to track this down, in our environment, We
TOGs> have mikrotik 1100ahx2 from to AP to the edge, and for the firs
TOGs> time, I actually want to set up a tool to help the 10 percent
TOGs> and if you guys who know more than me can spit out a script to
TOGs> drop in to monitor this customer I can pretend I have value
TOGs> within th company. .


TOGs> ï¿œ


TOGs> ï¿œ


TOGs> ï¿œ


TOGs> If you only see yourself as part of the team but
TOGs> youï¿œdon'tï¿œsee your team as part of yourself you haveï¿œalready
TOGs> failed as part of the team.













TOGs>   Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: [AFMUG] documenting customer usage

2016-09-17 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies

This is one of my biggest issues.  Customers that want to see what is
going on inside their network.  I have come to the conclusion, the
only way to do this is a managed router solution.

Years ago we found the skydog router, it was a great system.  We were
ready to standardize on their system, but comcast bought them and they
disappeared.

Been fiddling with some roll your own stuff using openwrt.  Not too
bad, not sure how it will scale though.

I'm currently testing one system that is suppose to have the inside BW
monitoring at the end of the month.  Have another system coming in
next week that claims to have it all running now.

I'll be making my final decision in November.  Want to give the
cambium guys one more look at the show to see how their stuff has
changed in a year.

We are looking at doing the managed router at about $7.95-$9.95 per
month.  Starting to see more and more people interested in a managed
router.



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www.MyakkaTech.com

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Please Donate at Please Donate at http://www.myakkatech.com/RFL.html
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Thursday, September 15, 2016, 9:36:03 PM, you wrote:


TOGs> so we got this:
TOGs> "Can yotu help us somehow figure out what is using all of
TOGs> our data? We have looked at the daily usage and can not figure
TOGs> it out. There are days that we have been gone for several hours
TOGs> and the usage is VERY high. Then days we are home have been
TOGs> extremely low. We are at a loss; can you help us or recommend
TOGs> someone who can. Is there a way to break this down hourly?
TOGs> Thanks!
TOGs> --"




TOGs> this is the one in ten request, the other 9 are normally
TOGs> "we didnt do this you people are lying,we never use the
TOGs> internet, our kids follow rules, youre cheating us" in a real
TOGs> catty voice




TOGs> screw those 9 douches, its usually one of the spouses
TOGs> porn affliction, the kids game console. or the fact they leave 5
TOGs> units running in the house with netflix on autoplay, if theyre
TOGs> not illegally torrenting some shit.




TOGs> but, there is the one, who arent cocks, they genuinely
TOGs> want to know. We arent providing them a router, so monitoring
TOGs> from there directly is out


TOGs> we just recently moved DNS to us (huge value I have
TOGs> already found) So whats the best way (to the account, not the
TOGs> individual machine) to track this down, in our environment, We
TOGs> have mikrotik 1100ahx2 from to AP to the edge, and for the firs
TOGs> time, I actually want to set up a tool to help the 10 percent
TOGs> and if you guys who know more than me can spit out a script to
TOGs> drop in to monitor this customer I can pretend I have value
TOGs> within th company. .






TOGs> If you only see yourself as part of the team but
TOGs> youï¿œdon'tï¿œsee your team as part of yourself you haveï¿œalready
TOGs> failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-17 Thread Chuck McCown

Poles actually do permanently consume non renewable resources.  There is only 
so much room for a pole line along most streets and roads.  Once that room is 
consumed it is gone.   Even private easements are “perpetual” and “run with the 
land”.  

From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

where is my popcorn...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jaime Solorza 
  To: Animal Farm 
  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 10:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

  I will stand in for Chuck, not that he needs help,  just haven't tangled in a 
while... Getting rusty

  On Sep 17, 2016 9:23 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"  
wrote:

So, will chuck and jared be gladiator fighting in the cage after Patrick 
and whoever challenges him ?

On Sep 17, 2016 5:10 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  wrote:

  Great post Jared!

  Jeff Broadwick 
  ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
  312-205-2519 Office
  574-220-7826 Cell
  jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

  On Sep 17, 2016, at 1:16 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:

  From: chuck

  Why should you even get access to my ducts or my poles in the first 
place?

Because you put them in the public right of way. 
If you want private ducts and poles, go negotiate your own easements 
and build on private land. 

  I paid to have them put in for my use.

So you did. We, the public, still get to set the rules (by proxy) on 
how the poles are to be used on "our" land. 

  I realize it is somewhat the "law of 

  the commons" but even then, those who file for a mining claim get the 
spoils 

  of the mine.  This is just a different kind of mine.

The mines analogy isn't really suitable as cables on poles do not 
permanently consume non-renewable resources. 

  You still pay an attachment fee because you forced the upgrade of my 
pole. 

That only makes sense if I had to pay you until the old pole was paid 
off. After that you should pay me. 

  You should be grateful there is a pole there you can use in the first 
place.

What's there to be grateful about? I just put in my own damn pole. 
If there was an existing pole there I could use, you should be grateful 
for me paying it off for you. 

  Why not break out your horizontal directional drill and stay the hell 
off my 

  poles.

Let's see how you like that argument when I pass an ordinance to 
underground all utilities. 

Just because you were the first one to put in a pole, does not mean you 
should be the only one allowed to benefit from the public right of way. 

  (Chuck McCown is playing the part of the pissed off, privately owned, 

  electrical utility in today's episode.  Chuck McCown is not actually 
a pole 

  owner but he plays one on TV).

Jared is playing the part of the outraged and righteous member of 
public. In real life Jared is just an ordinary citizen. 

Jared

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-17 Thread Chuck McCown

But I have the monopoly power spells, totally invincible...

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:23 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

So, will chuck and jared be gladiator fighting in the cage after Patrick and 
whoever challenges him ?

On Sep 17, 2016 5:10 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  wrote:

  Great post Jared!

  Jeff Broadwick 
  ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
  312-205-2519 Office
  574-220-7826 Cell
  jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

  On Sep 17, 2016, at 1:16 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:

  From: chuck

  Why should you even get access to my ducts or my poles in the first place?

Because you put them in the public right of way. 
If you want private ducts and poles, go negotiate your own easements and 
build on private land. 

  I paid to have them put in for my use.

So you did. We, the public, still get to set the rules (by proxy) on how 
the poles are to be used on "our" land. 

  I realize it is somewhat the "law of 

  the commons" but even then, those who file for a mining claim get the 
spoils 

  of the mine.  This is just a different kind of mine.

The mines analogy isn't really suitable as cables on poles do not 
permanently consume non-renewable resources. 

  You still pay an attachment fee because you forced the upgrade of my 
pole. 

That only makes sense if I had to pay you until the old pole was paid off. 
After that you should pay me. 

  You should be grateful there is a pole there you can use in the first 
place.

What's there to be grateful about? I just put in my own damn pole. 
If there was an existing pole there I could use, you should be grateful for 
me paying it off for you. 

  Why not break out your horizontal directional drill and stay the hell off 
my 

  poles.

Let's see how you like that argument when I pass an ordinance to 
underground all utilities. 

Just because you were the first one to put in a pole, does not mean you 
should be the only one allowed to benefit from the public right of way. 

  (Chuck McCown is playing the part of the pissed off, privately owned, 

  electrical utility in today's episode.  Chuck McCown is not actually a 
pole 

  owner but he plays one on TV).

Jared is playing the part of the outraged and righteous member of public. 
In real life Jared is just an ordinary citizen. 

Jared

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-17 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

where is my popcorn...

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jaime Solorza 
  To: Animal Farm 
  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 10:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

  I will stand in for Chuck, not that he needs help,  just haven't tangled in a 
while... Getting rusty

  On Sep 17, 2016 9:23 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"  
wrote:

So, will chuck and jared be gladiator fighting in the cage after Patrick 
and whoever challenges him ?

On Sep 17, 2016 5:10 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  wrote:

  Great post Jared!

  Jeff Broadwick
  ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
  312-205-2519 Office
  574-220-7826 Cell
  jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

  On Sep 17, 2016, at 1:16 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:

  From: chuck

  Why should you even get access to my ducts or my poles in the first 
place?

 Because you put them in the public right of way. 
 If you want private ducts and poles, go negotiate your own easements 
and build on private land. 

  I paid to have them put in for my use.

 So you did. We, the public, still get to set the rules (by proxy) on 
how the poles are to be used on "our" land. 

  I realize it is somewhat the "law of 

  the commons" but even then, those who file for a mining claim get the 
spoils 

  of the mine.  This is just a different kind of mine.

 The mines analogy isn't really suitable as cables on poles do not 
permanently consume non-renewable resources. 

  You still pay an attachment fee because you forced the upgrade of my 
pole. 

 That only makes sense if I had to pay you until the old pole was paid 
off. After that you should pay me. 

  You should be grateful there is a pole there you can use in the first 
place.

 What's there to be grateful about? I just put in my own damn pole. 
 If there was an existing pole there I could use, you should be 
grateful for me paying it off for you. 

  Why not break out your horizontal directional drill and stay the hell 
off my 

  poles.

 Let's see how you like that argument when I pass an ordinance to 
underground all utilities. 

 Just because you were the first one to put in a pole, does not mean 
you should be the only one allowed to benefit from the public right of way. 

  (Chuck McCown is playing the part of the pissed off, privately owned, 

  electrical utility in today's episode.  Chuck McCown is not actually 
a pole 

  owner but he plays one on TV).

 Jared is playing the part of the outraged and righteous member of 
public. In real life Jared is just an ordinary citizen. 

Jared

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-17 Thread Jaime Solorza

I will stand in for Chuck, not that he needs help,  just haven't tangled in
a while... Getting rusty

On Sep 17, 2016 9:23 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> So, will chuck and jared be gladiator fighting in the cage after Patrick
> and whoever challenges him ?
>
> On Sep 17, 2016 5:10 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" 
> wrote:
>
>> Great post Jared!
>>
>> Jeff Broadwick
>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>> 312-205-2519 Office
>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 1:16 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:
>>
>> From: chuck
>>
>>
>> Why should you even get access to my ducts or my poles in the first place?
>>
>>  Because you put them in the public right of way.
>>  If you want private ducts and poles, go negotiate your own easements and
>> build on private land.
>>
>> I paid to have them put in for my use.
>>
>>  So you did. We, the public, still get to set the rules (by proxy) on how
>> the poles are to be used on "our" land.
>>
>> I realize it is somewhat the "law of
>>
>> the commons" but even then, those who file for a mining claim get the
>> spoils
>>
>> of the mine.  This is just a different kind of mine.
>>
>>  The mines analogy isn't really suitable as cables on poles do not
>> permanently consume non-renewable resources.
>>
>> You still pay an attachment fee because you forced the upgrade of my
>> pole.
>>
>>  That only makes sense if I had to pay you until the old pole was paid
>> off. After that you should pay me.
>>
>> You should be grateful there is a pole there you can use in the first
>> place.
>>
>>  What's there to be grateful about? I just put in my own damn pole.
>>  If there was an existing pole there I could use, you should be grateful
>> for me paying it off for you.
>>
>> Why not break out your horizontal directional drill and stay the hell off
>> my
>>
>> poles.
>>
>>  Let's see how you like that argument when I pass an ordinance to
>> underground all utilities.
>>
>>  Just because you were the first one to put in a pole, does not mean you
>> should be the only one allowed to benefit from the public right of way.
>>
>> (Chuck McCown is playing the part of the pissed off, privately owned,
>>
>> electrical utility in today's episode.  Chuck McCown is not actually a
>> pole
>>
>> owner but he plays one on TV).
>>
>>  Jared is playing the part of the outraged and righteous member of
>> public. In real life Jared is just an ordinary citizen.
>>
>> Jared
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?

2016-09-17 Thread Daniel White

Yep.  And from what I remember SOP is to replace the board with the power 
circuity rather than fix components.



Also $200+ of that is in shipping as well.  It is expensive to send radios back 
and forth from Latvia :-)



It is still cheaper than buying new radios.



Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

  dwh...@converge-tech.com



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?



In their defense, they may also do a full parametric test and calibration of 
the radio.  May also use new gaskets when reassembling.



From: Lewis Bergman 

Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:36 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?



I didn't like the repair cycle time but I thought the money was reasonable. 
Mine was fried by lightning and they repaired it. I think they three in a new 
board.



On Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 10:04 PM Paul McCall  > wrote:

We can take a look at it for sure.  Most P problems are fixable, if that is 
what really is wrong with it



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 4:16 PM


To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?



You just made Chuck M’s day.



From: Gino Villarini 

Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 1:10 PM

To: Animal Farm 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?



in our experience UBNT AF line is above UBNT... similar to Cambium



On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Josh Reynolds  > wrote:

I have alpha, beta, and release radios from them that haven't been touched 
since they were installed. Some 5 years old.

On Sep 16, 2016 1:23 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"  > wrote:

I have a hard time believing youll get the SAF set and forget from any UBNT 
product

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Gino Villarini  > wrote:

with mimosa radios at $1400 and UBNT comming out with a $700 radio.. its har to 
pay those $900!



On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:10 PM,  > 
wrote:

Paul might be willing to take a look at it.



From: Daniel White 

Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:07 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?



I’ll let SAF speak for itself, but what they do for that money is worth it IMHO.



You never know where the rabbit hole goes with ESD damage.



Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 

dwh...@converge-tech.com 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 8:34 AM
To: Animal Farm  >
Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina Repairs?



Anyone know who offers out of warranty Lumina repairs?



SAF is charging us $900+ for ESD/Surge damaged radios... I think its a bit too 
much




 


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Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm

So, will chuck and jared be gladiator fighting in the cage after Patrick
and whoever challenges him ?

On Sep 17, 2016 5:10 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  wrote:

> Great post Jared!
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 1:16 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:
>
> From: chuck
>
>
> Why should you even get access to my ducts or my poles in the first place?
>
>  Because you put them in the public right of way.
>  If you want private ducts and poles, go negotiate your own easements and
> build on private land.
>
> I paid to have them put in for my use.
>
>  So you did. We, the public, still get to set the rules (by proxy) on how
> the poles are to be used on "our" land.
>
> I realize it is somewhat the "law of
>
> the commons" but even then, those who file for a mining claim get the
> spoils
>
> of the mine.  This is just a different kind of mine.
>
>  The mines analogy isn't really suitable as cables on poles do not
> permanently consume non-renewable resources.
>
> You still pay an attachment fee because you forced the upgrade of my pole.
>
>  That only makes sense if I had to pay you until the old pole was paid
> off. After that you should pay me.
>
> You should be grateful there is a pole there you can use in the first
> place.
>
>  What's there to be grateful about? I just put in my own damn pole.
>  If there was an existing pole there I could use, you should be grateful
> for me paying it off for you.
>
> Why not break out your horizontal directional drill and stay the hell off
> my
>
> poles.
>
>  Let's see how you like that argument when I pass an ordinance to
> underground all utilities.
>
>  Just because you were the first one to put in a pole, does not mean you
> should be the only one allowed to benefit from the public right of way.
>
> (Chuck McCown is playing the part of the pissed off, privately owned,
>
> electrical utility in today's episode.  Chuck McCown is not actually a
> pole
>
> owner but he plays one on TV).
>
>  Jared is playing the part of the outraged and righteous member of public.
> In real life Jared is just an ordinary citizen.
>
> Jared
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

2016-09-17 Thread Paul Stewart

They don’t typically …. :(

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: September 16, 2016 2:58 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

Probably, but not everyone downloads a new game all at the same time...  I 
wonder to what extent Sony is staggering the automatic update retrieval in 
intervals through the entire installed base of PS4 that are online with 24x7 
net access.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:

Probably smaller than a game, though.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Eric Kuhnke  > wrote:

In the very near future all PS4 with an internet connection are going to 
automatically download a large whole operating system update... 

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en 

 =us=nws=0=playstation+4+update

Re: [AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

2016-09-17 Thread Paul Stewart

I was happily surprised this time around that Apple updates didn't cause
massive sudden spikes in traffic. it ramped up a bit on Tuesday and then has
been flowly tapering off all week .. We'll see what next week looks like
though.

 

Our Akamai graph (which for us is where all Apple updates come from - YMMV)

 



 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: September 16, 2016 7:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

 

macOS sierra is next tuesday (20th)..  Nice of Apple to give us two big
download Tuesdays in row though :)






On Sep 16, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Sean Heskett  > wrote:

 

iOS 10 and Mac OSX Sierra came out on tuesday the 13th

 

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Sam Kirsch  > wrote:

Looks like this PS4 update was released on Sept 13th -- as was a 500MB
update for Windows 10 and some sort of El Capitan OS X Update.  We didn't
start seeing real issues with the Windows 10 Update until the last 48 hours,
since then its been a shit show of complaints :(  

 

 

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-- Original Message --

From: "Mathew Howard"  >

To: "af"  >

Sent: 9/16/2016 2:57:55 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Playstation 4 software update

 

I suspect the majority of them are already actually done... mine updated a
few days ago.

 

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Eric Kuhnke  > wrote:

In the very near future all PS4 with an internet connection are going to
automatically download a large whole operating system update... 

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en
 =us=nws=0=playstation+4+update

Re: [AFMUG] The latest gig city

2016-09-17 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists

Great post Jared!

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

On Sep 17, 2016, at 1:16 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:

>> From: chuck
>> 
>> Why should you even get access to my ducts or my poles in the first place?
>  Because you put them in the public right of way. 
>  If you want private ducts and poles, go negotiate your own easements and 
> build on private land. 
> 
>> I paid to have them put in for my use.
>  So you did. We, the public, still get to set the rules (by proxy) on how the 
> poles are to be used on "our" land. 
> 
>> I realize it is somewhat the "law of 
>> the commons" but even then, those who file for a mining claim get the spoils 
>> of the mine.  This is just a different kind of mine.
>  The mines analogy isn't really suitable as cables on poles do not 
> permanently consume non-renewable resources. 
> 
>> You still pay an attachment fee because you forced the upgrade of my pole.
>  That only makes sense if I had to pay you until the old pole was paid off. 
> After that you should pay me. 
> 
>> You should be grateful there is a pole there you can use in the first place.
>  What's there to be grateful about? I just put in my own damn pole. 
>  If there was an existing pole there I could use, you should be grateful for 
> me paying it off for you. 
> 
>> Why not break out your horizontal directional drill and stay the hell off my 
>> poles.
>  Let's see how you like that argument when I pass an ordinance to underground 
> all utilities. 
> 
>  Just because you were the first one to put in a pole, does not mean you 
> should be the only one allowed to benefit from the public right of way. 
> 
>> (Chuck McCown is playing the part of the pissed off, privately owned, 
>> electrical utility in today's episode.  Chuck McCown is not actually a pole 
>> owner but he plays one on TV).
>  Jared is playing the part of the outraged and righteous member of public. In 
> real life Jared is just an ordinary citizen. 
> 
> Jared

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