[AFMUG] Cisco Nexus Switch / Mikrotik CCR

[Jason McKemie]

Has anyone had any success with linking these two via fiber? We were unable
to get the link to work, so I ended up using a Cisco router as an
intermediary.  I'd like to get rid of that extra hardware if possible.

-Jason

Re: [AFMUG] FW: what spectrum do most phones use

[George Skorup]

My 7 year old tablet has 5GHz. Some devices will cling to the 2.4 band 
for whatever reason. Band-steering helps. It works most of the time on 
the Cambium E400 and 500's we've deployed. Some devices are just assholes.


On 2/5/2017 11:19 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:


I�ve got Hot-Spot deployments where I�m seeing 80% 2.4GHz and 20% 
5GHz.  I would have thought by now that most devices support 5GHz and 
that would become the predominant spectrum.  For those that are doing 
hot-spots with dual-bands, what do you see in spectrum use?


*Rory Conaway **� Triad Wireless �**CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street � Phoenix � AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542*

*r...@triadwireless.net *

*www.triadwireless.net *

**

�Baseball - we do not stop playing because we grow old, we grow old 
because we stop playing�

Re: [AFMUG] OT the weekend has begun

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

if you are friends with him it is on his page


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jaime Solorza 
  To: Animal Farm 
  Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 6:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT the weekend has begun


  Can you share link to Paul playing 


  On Feb 4, 2017 8:25 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"  wrote:


Talk to Paul Mccall about hitting those notespretty sure he can :)
I mean, he did play mar-a-lagoa few weeks ago... :)
I understand it was huge.  I mean, 
HGE.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ken Hohhof 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 5:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT the weekend has begun


  It ends fine.  Unless you decide that you can hit those notes, in which 
case it ends with cranial matter splattered all over the walls and ceiling.





  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 5:31 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT the weekend has begun



  And I am already in YouTube Hell.  Listening to Maynard Ferguson videos.  
Who knows where this ends...

[AFMUG] FW: what spectrum do most phones use

[Rory Conaway]

I've got Hot-Spot deployments where I'm seeing 80% 2.4GHz and 20% 5GHz.  I 
would have thought by now that most devices support 5GHz and that would become 
the predominant spectrum.  For those that are doing hot-spots with dual-bands, 
what do you see in spectrum use?

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"Baseball - we do not stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we 
stop playing"

[AFMUG] Climbing is Life

[Rory Conaway]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/f1BgzIZRfT8?feature=player_embedded

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"Baseball - we do not stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we 
stop playing"

Re: [AFMUG] Torta De Jamon for Super Bowl snack

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I think regular access to quality tamales could change the world. I grew up
on canned ones, but didn't know I also grew up on reall ones at my friends
houses, when you're a kid, you just eat stuff when it's good if you don't
know what it is. I'm a lot nicer to the old lady now when I get real ones.
Like every couple years.

On Feb 5, 2017 10:05 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

My wife does killer tamales.  It is an all day affair and generally I have
to promise to spread the masa on the corn husks.

*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Sunday, February 05, 2017 8:24 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Torta De Jamon for Super Bowl snack

The best tamales are the ones we get from the market up on the corner. They
make them fresh every day, and I like them "preparado" (with chilies,
guacamole, and sour cream).


On Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:17 PM, Jay Weekley 
wrote:


I would settle for one recipe as long as it was hot.

That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
> I have a board request. For every political post Jaime or hymee,
> makes, he has to also provide two recipes. I think it's only fair. He
> will basically silence all it right wing nut jobs because we will be
> so fat our fingers won't be able to type on our phones anymore and we
> will also realize that without Mexican aunts, nobody in the US will
> ever get a good tamale. I do t know what it is about it, but if a
> tamale didn't come from " my aunt" they just aren't as good
>
> On Feb 5, 2017 12:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  > wrote:
>
>I don't watch football but wanted to share a snack recipe...
>Pan Blanco (Bolillo or French will do)
>..cut in half long way... Toast slightly on comal Add
>mayonnaise is you like... Slice thin Mexican white cheese
>(Muenster will do), slice avocado in small chunks,  add Ham or
>Turkey slice... Assemble and put on comal or toaster oven to warm
>up cheese... Melt if you like... Some fresh jalapeno to bite along
>with Torta and cold beverage.  Tecate or Modelo go very well with
>it,  Corona if you are a preppy kind Budweiser.. Nah... Salud 
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
> Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13896 - Release Date: 02/05/17
>

Re: [AFMUG] Torta De Jamon for Super Bowl snack

[Chuck McCown]

My wife does killer tamales.  It is an all day affair and generally I have to 
promise to spread the masa on the corn husks.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 8:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Torta De Jamon for Super Bowl snack

The best tamales are the ones we get from the market up on the corner. They 
make them fresh every day, and I like them "preparado" (with chilies, 
guacamole, and sour cream).



On Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:17 PM, Jay Weekley  
wrote:




I would settle for one recipe as long as it was hot.

That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
> I have a board request. For every political post Jaime or hymee, 
> makes, he has to also provide two recipes. I think it's only fair. He 
> will basically silence all it right wing nut jobs because we will be 
> so fat our fingers won't be able to type on our phones anymore and we 
> will also realize that without Mexican aunts, nobody in the US will 
> ever get a good tamale. I do t know what it is about it, but if a 
> tamale didn't come from " my aunt" they just aren't as good
>
> On Feb 5, 2017 12:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  > wrote:
>
>I don't watch football but wanted to share a snack recipe...
>Pan Blanco (Bolillo or French will do)
>..cut in half long way... Toast slightly on comal Add
>mayonnaise is you like... Slice thin Mexican white cheese
>(Muenster will do), slice avocado in small chunks,  add Ham or
>Turkey slice... Assemble and put on comal or toaster oven to warm
>up cheese... Melt if you like... Some fresh jalapeno to bite along
>with Torta and cold beverage.  Tecate or Modelo go very well with
>it,  Corona if you are a preppy kind Budweiser.. Nah... Salud 
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
> Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13896 - Release Date: 02/05/17
>

Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?

[Chuck McCown]

Wow, 22 cents per watt solar panels.  Wow wow wow.  

From: Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 3:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?

Found this, sunelec.com (big solar equipment dealer for off grid) is selling 
the 106Ah version of these for $185 a piece plus pallet shipping:


http://www.outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/Store_the_Energy/energycell_re_top_terminal/energycellREtopterminal_specsheet.pdf


Outback, as far as I know, doesn't actually have a battery factory. But they 
are a fairly large company so they are relabeling somebody else's deep cycle 
off grid design AGM battery. In terms of $/Wh stored the only thing that beats 
it is the 6V 225Ah wet cell batteries from Trojan.



On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Harold Bledsoe  wrote:

  I can across an interesting tip / option -

  Have you considered going with forklift batteries? They are flooded lead acid 
however I'm reading that they can last 3x longer than golf cart batteries in PV 
applications.

  
http://gbindustrialbattery.com/Forklift_Battery_Sizes_and_Specifications_Zone15.html

  I guess the weight is a downside. Just make sure the whole family eats their 
Wheaties on moving day. :-)

  Hal

  On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:11 PM Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

Looking for a bunch of 12V 100Ah AGM top terminal batteries for off grid 
PV. Wondering if anyone has recently got a particularly good deal for something 
like the Trojan T31 or similar. 


  -- 

  Harold Bledsoe

Re: [AFMUG] Torta De Jamon for Super Bowl snack

[Jaime Solorza]

Oops forgot onion and fresh cilantro
tlalpeño...

On Feb 5, 2017 8:03 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> I second this!
>
> On Feb 5, 2017 9:02 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
>> I have a board request. For every political post Jaime or hymee, makes,
>> he has to also provide two recipes. I think it's only fair. He will
>> basically silence all it right wing nut jobs because we will be so fat our
>> fingers won't be able to type on our phones anymore and we will also
>> realize that without Mexican aunts, nobody in the US will ever get a good
>> tamale. I do t know what it is about it, but if a tamale didn't come from "
>> my aunt" they just aren't as good
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2017 12:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't watch football but wanted to share a snack recipe...
>>> Pan Blanco (Bolillo or French will do)
>>> ..cut in half long way... Toast slightly on comal Add mayonnaise is
>>> you like... Slice thin Mexican white cheese (Muenster will do), slice
>>> avocado in small chunks,  add Ham or Turkey slice... Assemble and put on
>>> comal or toaster oven to warm up cheese... Melt if you like... Some fresh
>>> jalapeno to bite along with Torta and cold beverage.   Tecate or Modelo go
>>> very well with it,  Corona if you are a preppy kind Budweiser.. Nah...
>>> Salud 
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Torta De Jamon for Super Bowl snack

[Bill Prince]

The best tamales are the ones we get from the market up on the corner. They 
make them fresh every day, and I like them "preparado" (with chilies, 
guacamole, and sour cream). 

On Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:17 PM, Jay Weekley 
 wrote:
 

 I would settle for one recipe as long as it was hot.

That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
> I have a board request. For every political post Jaime or hymee, 
> makes, he has to also provide two recipes. I think it's only fair. He 
> will basically silence all it right wing nut jobs because we will be 
> so fat our fingers won't be able to type on our phones anymore and we 
> will also realize that without Mexican aunts, nobody in the US will 
> ever get a good tamale. I do t know what it is about it, but if a 
> tamale didn't come from " my aunt" they just aren't as good
>
> On Feb 5, 2017 12:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  > wrote:
>
>    I don't watch football but wanted to share a snack recipe...
>    Pan Blanco (Bolillo or French will do)
>    ..cut in half long way... Toast slightly on comal Add
>    mayonnaise is you like... Slice thin Mexican white cheese
>    (Muenster will do), slice avocado in small chunks,  add Ham or
>    Turkey slice... Assemble and put on comal or toaster oven to warm
>    up cheese... Melt if you like... Some fresh jalapeno to bite along
>    with Torta and cold beverage.  Tecate or Modelo go very well with
>    it,  Corona if you are a preppy kind Budweiser.. Nah... Salud 
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
> Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13896 - Release Date: 02/05/17
>



   

Re: [AFMUG] Torta De Jamon for Super Bowl snack

[Jay Weekley]

I would settle for one recipe as long as it was hot.

That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
I have a board request. For every political post Jaime or hymee, 
makes, he has to also provide two recipes. I think it's only fair. He 
will basically silence all it right wing nut jobs because we will be 
so fat our fingers won't be able to type on our phones anymore and we 
will also realize that without Mexican aunts, nobody in the US will 
ever get a good tamale. I do t know what it is about it, but if a 
tamale didn't come from " my aunt" they just aren't as good


On Feb 5, 2017 12:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote:


I don't watch football but wanted to share a snack recipe...
Pan Blanco (Bolillo or French will do)
..cut in half long way... Toast slightly on comal Add
mayonnaise is you like... Slice thin Mexican white cheese
(Muenster will do), slice avocado in small chunks,  add Ham or
Turkey slice... Assemble and put on comal or toaster oven to warm
up cheese... Melt if you like... Some fresh jalapeno to bite along
with Torta and cold beverage.   Tecate or Modelo go very well with
it,  Corona if you are a preppy kind Budweiser.. Nah... Salud 

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13896 - Release Date: 02/05/17

Re: [AFMUG] Torta De Jamon for Super Bowl snack

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I want some tamales so bad right now

On Feb 5, 2017 9:03 PM, "Josh Reynolds"  wrote:

> I second this!
>
> On Feb 5, 2017 9:02 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> wrote:
>
>> I have a board request. For every political post Jaime or hymee, makes,
>> he has to also provide two recipes. I think it's only fair. He will
>> basically silence all it right wing nut jobs because we will be so fat our
>> fingers won't be able to type on our phones anymore and we will also
>> realize that without Mexican aunts, nobody in the US will ever get a good
>> tamale. I do t know what it is about it, but if a tamale didn't come from "
>> my aunt" they just aren't as good
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2017 12:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't watch football but wanted to share a snack recipe...
>>> Pan Blanco (Bolillo or French will do)
>>> ..cut in half long way... Toast slightly on comal Add mayonnaise is
>>> you like... Slice thin Mexican white cheese (Muenster will do), slice
>>> avocado in small chunks,  add Ham or Turkey slice... Assemble and put on
>>> comal or toaster oven to warm up cheese... Melt if you like... Some fresh
>>> jalapeno to bite along with Torta and cold beverage.   Tecate or Modelo go
>>> very well with it,  Corona if you are a preppy kind Budweiser.. Nah...
>>> Salud 
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Torta De Jamon for Super Bowl snack

[Josh Reynolds]

I second this!

On Feb 5, 2017 9:02 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> I have a board request. For every political post Jaime or hymee, makes, he
> has to also provide two recipes. I think it's only fair. He will basically
> silence all it right wing nut jobs because we will be so fat our fingers
> won't be able to type on our phones anymore and we will also realize that
> without Mexican aunts, nobody in the US will ever get a good tamale. I do t
> know what it is about it, but if a tamale didn't come from " my aunt" they
> just aren't as good
>
> On Feb 5, 2017 12:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> I don't watch football but wanted to share a snack recipe...
>> Pan Blanco (Bolillo or French will do)
>> ..cut in half long way... Toast slightly on comal Add mayonnaise is
>> you like... Slice thin Mexican white cheese (Muenster will do), slice
>> avocado in small chunks,  add Ham or Turkey slice... Assemble and put on
>> comal or toaster oven to warm up cheese... Melt if you like... Some fresh
>> jalapeno to bite along with Torta and cold beverage.   Tecate or Modelo go
>> very well with it,  Corona if you are a preppy kind Budweiser.. Nah...
>> Salud 
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Torta De Jamon for Super Bowl snack

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I have a board request. For every political post Jaime or hymee, makes, he
has to also provide two recipes. I think it's only fair. He will basically
silence all it right wing nut jobs because we will be so fat our fingers
won't be able to type on our phones anymore and we will also realize that
without Mexican aunts, nobody in the US will ever get a good tamale. I do t
know what it is about it, but if a tamale didn't come from " my aunt" they
just aren't as good

On Feb 5, 2017 12:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

> I don't watch football but wanted to share a snack recipe...
> Pan Blanco (Bolillo or French will do)
> ..cut in half long way... Toast slightly on comal Add mayonnaise is
> you like... Slice thin Mexican white cheese (Muenster will do), slice
> avocado in small chunks,  add Ham or Turkey slice... Assemble and put on
> comal or toaster oven to warm up cheese... Melt if you like... Some fresh
> jalapeno to bite along with Torta and cold beverage.   Tecate or Modelo go
> very well with it,  Corona if you are a preppy kind Budweiser.. Nah...
> Salud 
>

Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?

[Keefe John]

Exide has a 105 AH battery for $81

http://www.menards.com/main/electrical/batteries-battery-chargers/automotive-lead-acid-batteries/exide-regng-27-12-month-nautilus-marine-deep-cycle-battery/p-130136307-c-9100.htm?tid=-3310133469912273928


On February 5, 2017 4:55:55 PM CST, Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>Found this, sunelec.com (big solar equipment dealer for off grid) is
>selling the 106Ah version of these for $185 a piece plus pallet
>shipping:
>
>http://www.outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/Store_the_Energy/energycell_re_top_terminal/energycellREtopterminal_specsheet.pdf
>
>Outback, as far as I know, doesn't actually have a battery factory. But
>they are a fairly large company so they are relabeling somebody else's
>deep
>cycle off grid design AGM battery. In terms of $/Wh stored the only
>thing
>that beats it is the 6V 225Ah wet cell batteries from Trojan.
>
>
>
>On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Harold Bledsoe 
>wrote:
>
>> I can across an interesting tip / option -
>>
>> Have you considered going with forklift batteries? They are flooded
>lead
>> acid however I'm reading that they can last 3x longer than golf cart
>> batteries in PV applications.
>>
>> http://gbindustrialbattery.com/Forklift_Battery_Sizes_
>> and_Specifications_Zone15.html
>>
>> I guess the weight is a downside. Just make sure the whole family
>eats
>> their Wheaties on moving day. :-)
>>
>> Hal
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:11 PM Eric Kuhnke 
>wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for a bunch of 12V 100Ah AGM top terminal batteries for off
>grid
>>> PV. Wondering if anyone has recently got a particularly good deal
>for
>>> something like the Trojan T31 or similar.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> Harold Bledsoe
>>

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] PoE Cat5/6 cable distances

[Eric Kuhnke]

If you have two separate cat5e cables, one thing to do is use one cable
with a VDSL2 30a bridge (be sure you're getting something that can use the
30a profile, not 17a, because it won't be near real 100BaseTX speeds). Or
with a pair of such bridges in parallel so you can build a 2 x 100BaseTX
802.3ad. That's your link for data.

On the other cable, put something like a 200W rated power supply tuned to
58VDC. One of the better quality meanwells. Use four wires for positive and
four for negative. On the load at the far end, put in a DC-DC converter
that takes input from 36-72VDC and turns it into a stable 48VDC. Use that
to power your equipment from DC using DC-DC PoE injectors, DC powered
switch like Netonix, etc.



On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Don't get confused that 328 feet is just a powering issue.  There are
> completely unrelated Ethernet and POE issues.  328 feet is magic for
> Ethernet, not necessarily for POE, although they tend to go together.
>
> If you are feeding a micropop over 800 feet of buried Cat5 with no AC
> power at the far end, you have your hands full.  I would buy some VDSL
> bridges (and spares), they aren't all that expensive, and after all you are
> feeding a micropop.
>
> Next time, I would bury at least 6 strand fiber and at least 12AWG for
> power (120VAC or 48VDC).  And I would put it in conduit with a pull tape.
> You don't want to spend all the time and money burying 800 feet and then
> find out you buried the wrong thing.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
> Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 4:05 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PoE Cat5/6 cable distances
>
> You could just run 3x 12ga and run the 110 AC all the way out there.
> For a load as small as you're saying, you wouldn't even notice the voltage
> drop.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Chuck McCown" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 2/5/2017 3:52:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PoE Cat5/6 cable distances
>
> >I have run up to 600 volts on CAT 5.
> >
> >-Original Message- From: Dev
> >Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 10:00 PM
> >To: af@afmug.com
> >Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PoE Cat5/6 cable distances
> >
> >> > Are you trying to exceed 100 meters?  Is there a good reason not to
> >>use > fiber + DC power?
> >
> >Maybe. My bigger problem is how to get 24
> >volts/whatever-that-can-be-regulated-down-to-24v to the other end of a
> >800 foot wire run without too much voltage drop/heat so I could power
> > for a micropop without wire
> >the size of my thumb.
> >
> >I guess I could run a transformer to up-convert from 110VAC to
> > and then another one on the other end to run smaller wire,
> >but I don’t know if that’s practical vs just buying something off the
> >shelf. Wondering if someone’s already solved the problem and can
> >recommend what they did, besides google and guess.
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Particularly good recent battery deals?

[Eric Kuhnke]

Found this, sunelec.com (big solar equipment dealer for off grid) is
selling the 106Ah version of these for $185 a piece plus pallet shipping:

http://www.outbackpower.com/downloads/documents/Store_the_Energy/energycell_re_top_terminal/energycellREtopterminal_specsheet.pdf

Outback, as far as I know, doesn't actually have a battery factory. But
they are a fairly large company so they are relabeling somebody else's deep
cycle off grid design AGM battery. In terms of $/Wh stored the only thing
that beats it is the 6V 225Ah wet cell batteries from Trojan.



On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Harold Bledsoe  wrote:

> I can across an interesting tip / option -
>
> Have you considered going with forklift batteries? They are flooded lead
> acid however I'm reading that they can last 3x longer than golf cart
> batteries in PV applications.
>
> http://gbindustrialbattery.com/Forklift_Battery_Sizes_
> and_Specifications_Zone15.html
>
> I guess the weight is a downside. Just make sure the whole family eats
> their Wheaties on moving day. :-)
>
> Hal
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:11 PM Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
>
>> Looking for a bunch of 12V 100Ah AGM top terminal batteries for off grid
>> PV. Wondering if anyone has recently got a particularly good deal for
>> something like the Trojan T31 or similar.
>>
>>
>> --
>
> Harold Bledsoe
>

Re: [AFMUG] PoE Cat5/6 cable distances

[Ken Hohhof]

Don't get confused that 328 feet is just a powering issue.  There are 
completely unrelated Ethernet and POE issues.  328 feet is magic for Ethernet, 
not necessarily for POE, although they tend to go together.

If you are feeding a micropop over 800 feet of buried Cat5 with no AC power at 
the far end, you have your hands full.  I would buy some VDSL bridges (and 
spares), they aren't all that expensive, and after all you are feeding a 
micropop.

Next time, I would bury at least 6 strand fiber and at least 12AWG for power 
(120VAC or 48VDC).  And I would put it in conduit with a pull tape.  You don't 
want to spend all the time and money burying 800 feet and then find out you 
buried the wrong thing.


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 4:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PoE Cat5/6 cable distances

You could just run 3x 12ga and run the 110 AC all the way out there.
For a load as small as you're saying, you wouldn't even notice the voltage drop.


-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/5/2017 3:52:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PoE Cat5/6 cable distances

>I have run up to 600 volts on CAT 5.
>
>-Original Message- From: Dev
>Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 10:00 PM
>To: af@afmug.com
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PoE Cat5/6 cable distances
>
>> > Are you trying to exceed 100 meters?  Is there a good reason not to 
>>use > fiber + DC power?
>
>Maybe. My bigger problem is how to get 24 
>volts/whatever-that-can-be-regulated-down-to-24v to the other end of a 
>800 foot wire run without too much voltage drop/heat so I could power 
> for a micropop without wire 
>the size of my thumb.
>
>I guess I could run a transformer to up-convert from 110VAC to 
> and then another one on the other end to run smaller wire, 
>but I don’t know if that’s practical vs just buying something off the 
>shelf. Wondering if someone’s already solved the problem and can 
>recommend what they did, besides google and guess.

Re: [AFMUG] PoE Cat5/6 cable distances

[Adam Moffett]

You could just run 3x 12ga and run the 110 AC all the way out there.
For a load as small as you're saying, you wouldn't even notice the 
voltage drop.



-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 2/5/2017 3:52:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PoE Cat5/6 cable distances


I have run up to 600 volts on CAT 5.

-Original Message- From: Dev
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 10:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PoE Cat5/6 cable distances

> Are you trying to exceed 100 meters?  Is there a good reason not to 
use > fiber + DC power?


Maybe. My bigger problem is how to get 24 
volts/whatever-that-can-be-regulated-down-to-24v to the other end of a 
800 foot wire run without too much voltage drop/heat so I could power 
 for a micropop without wire 
the size of my thumb.


I guess I could run a transformer to up-convert from 110VAC to 
 and then another one on the other end to run smaller wire, 
but I don’t know if that’s practical vs just buying something off the 
shelf. Wondering if someone’s already solved the problem and can 
recommend what they did, besides google and guess.

Re: [AFMUG] PoE Cat5/6 cable distances

[Chuck McCown]

I have run up to 600 volts on CAT 5.

-Original Message- 
From: Dev

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 10:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PoE Cat5/6 cable distances

> Are you trying to exceed 100 meters?  Is there a good reason not to use 
> fiber + DC power?


Maybe. My bigger problem is how to get 24 
volts/whatever-that-can-be-regulated-down-to-24v to the other end of a 800 
foot wire run without too much voltage drop/heat so I could power 
 for a micropop without wire the 
size of my thumb.


I guess I could run a transformer to up-convert from 110VAC to  
and then another one on the other end to run smaller wire, but I don’t know 
if that’s practical vs just buying something off the shelf. Wondering if 
someone’s already solved the problem and can recommend what they did, 
besides google and guess. 

[AFMUG] Torta De Jamon for Super Bowl snack

[Jaime Solorza]

I don't watch football but wanted to share a snack recipe...
Pan Blanco (Bolillo or French will do)
..cut in half long way... Toast slightly on comal Add mayonnaise is you
like... Slice thin Mexican white cheese (Muenster will do), slice avocado
in small chunks,  add Ham or Turkey slice... Assemble and put on comal or
toaster oven to warm up cheese... Melt if you like... Some fresh jalapeno
to bite along with Torta and cold beverage.   Tecate or Modelo go very well
with it,  Corona if you are a preppy kind Budweiser.. Nah... Salud